Dude biome votes are worse. one biome gets updated the rest don't. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR NOT UPDATING THEM ALL! so the loosing biome updates will probably never get updated. which sucks
@@cooldude_not Didn't they mention the biome vote was different than the mob vote? That being the biome that won would be the FIRST one to get overhauled? We saw that happen with mountains winning the vote and the swamp getting updated later which added chest boats, frogs and mangrove swamps. With the first biome vote i'm not too sure since only taiga got changed but it is likely they'll come back to those biomes that lost.
@ozkoren you do know you can to the Phantoms off in the game rules right you under mods or do you just like, complaining over stupid thing that don't really matter.
I think they should do a mob vote with the losing mobs until there is no more losing mobs. It would also give them a good amount of time to think of other mobs.
@michaelelischer1565 pardon me, but is it me who doesn't understand, or is this comment just pointless? Doesn't this basically mean eventually adding EVERY mob? What's the point of votes then?
This update would’ve been absolutely perfect to add the copper and tuff golem considering trial chambers are literally made of those materials and it would’ve been perfect to show the community that the mobs aren’t *permanently* gone. Still absolutely insane
Multiple misdiagnoses right at the end. The reason why the Biome vote was the most popular isn't that it was a biome vote (as opposed to a mob vote). It was the fact that the vote determined priority, and all three were eventually added. The reason why the Caves and Cliffs update was so popular was because the community had been asking for an update to caves specifically for years, similar to why everyone loved the Nether update because that's the other thing the community had wanted for years. The reason why the most recent mob vote was the most controversial is because players saw actual value in all three options instead of three boring options that wouldn't have much impact on the game. Wolf armor is another feature that has been requested for years. Increasing block placing range with the crab claw sounds awesome. Having a mob that makes boats faster could've been used to make Nether passageways with boats riding on ice blocks even faster than they already are. People cared so much because all of these mobs are significantly better than any of the options in previous mob votes. Edit: to add to this, people are disappointed by the Sniffer because everyone kind of assumed that the plants the Sniffer dug up would have a useful function instead of being purely cosmetic. Something that hard to get ahold of should do something special, but they are purely decorative.
But ALL votes are about priority actually. It is confirmed... Mojang just didn't communicate it clear enough. But "losing mobs are scrapped" was really an one-time thing.
@@Lyokoheros-KLPXTV no, there is a difference between the biome and mob votes in that sense. biome vote losers had a 100% chance to come later, whereas mob vote losers will only get into the game if it fits with the update theme or the direction mojang wants to take the game at the time. and even then, as we've seen a few times already, such as with the trial chambers and the two mob vote golems, this is not a guarantee. especially in the case of mobs that affect features mojang has already done updates for, (which includes some of the coolest ones, like the Wildfire) it is very unlikely we will see them anytime in even the next 10-20 years. sometimes mob vote losers are outright replaced as well, which thankfully has only been the case so far with the great hunger (the bane of my existence) having its enchant-removing feature instead given to the grindstone.
During the 15 years celebration, they apparently said the illusioner wouldn't be added because they intended it for Dungeons. Then why code it in normal Minecraft?@@Asvaloupas
tbh I feel like the biggest slap in the face that Mojang does to us is using things that look like the BareBones texture pack or Better Animations and ESPECIALLY shaders/dynamic lighting in their OFFICAL trailers, WITHOUT adding them into the base/vanilla Minecraft. Whenever I watch the trailers it makes me think "That's not what Minecraft actually looks like -_-" ... because its almost as if they KNOW Minecraft needs things like that, except they wont listen to the community and add it?... But they add it to the trailers? Ok...
that would cause recency bias, making the voters more likely to pick the new one even if it isnt as good as the other 2, since the other 2 are basically considered boring at this point to the voters, its lost forever because people will stop caring about them, and just shut up and play the game.
I keep seeing people say this it's so frustrating. This creates the exact same problem as the normal mob vote, except even worse because fans of returning mobs will only be upset again if and when their mob loses for the second time. If Mojang has a good idea for a new mob, they should add it, and if it doesn't out for whatever reason then it should simply be scrapped *before* it's shown.
That's a bad idea... "Recency Bias" is a thing, so everyone would just pick the 1 new one. It should be 2 new mobs and 1 old mob, but with care taken to make sure all three are evenly matched.
That would be even more frustrating. Imagine You get 1 nether Fortress 2 desert temple 3 end city People wouldn't be happy to have choose between such great options only to have two be tossed aside.
the Aquatic Update added a lot, but i'd be lying if i said it feels complete. i have in mind of the Shark for a neutral mob; the Kraken for a hostile mob; and the Sea Serpent for a Boss mob.
@@jacktheomnithere2127 well then if you got all your special ideas just for you in minecraft, then you would complain that the update wasn't finished fast enough since added 3 more mobs ontop of dolphins and fish will take 2-3 more years to develop. Lets say they were able to add them in the same old development time, then you would complain that the mobs feel like they came from a mod or something since they just don't fit right with the actual game, since you didn't give mojang enough time to polish it for the game.
@@jacktheomnithere2127while i definitely feel the aquatic update is complete on its own, an aquatic boss would be pretty interesting- even tho I’m not a huge fan of combat in any game lol
@@joshuabarqueesimeth4530 i'm perfectly fine with waiting. the philosophy i used for most of the monsters i had in mind is making something new with what's already there. Mojang would still need time if they did this (and they already did it 7 to 8 times before), and i have little to no problem with it. my complaint is that they didn't take enough time. yes, people would have complained - i would have, too - but if it's to perfect something, then i'd have let it be water under the bridge after some time (pun intended, not sorry). hell, i'd be fine if they split it into parts like they did with Caves & Cliffs.
People when Minecraft adds new features: "Minecraft is too complicated, I miss the old game!" People when Minecraft doesn't add as many new features: "Mojang is so lazy!"
One huge problem Mojang has to deal with... If they made the mob vote mobs "low impact," then people complain about how useless they are. BUT when they make them _useful_ people get mad that they don't add all three. The ONLY reason people started pushing for the "Stop the Mob Vote" trend is because the Crab, Armadillo, and Penguin all had useful abilities that people wanted (well... at least the crab and armadillo... sorry penguin😅). Nobody cared when it was a competition between three useless mobs.
In my opinion, the only way to do a mob vote without a majority of players feeling disappointed is to have all 3 mobs serve the same gameplay niche, because currently, there is no reason they could not at all 3 mobs, but if the mobs were mutually incompatible then it's much harder to feel disappointed. For instance, if there's an End update, the mob vote could be between three mobs, all of which would act as the guardian for some End dungeon. Now the players are both shaping the core update and don't feel like they lost 2/3 of what they could have gotten
That’s smart! Just like you said, then we don’t feel like we are missing out on gameplay mechanics and instead just choosing the critter that will represent it. Though I would worry about some people feeling as if it’s boring as they “all do the same thing so what’s the point”
@@moeshrooms385 Thanks! And that's why I said gameplay niche instead of mechanic, because I think they could function a bit differently, but they'd serve the same purpose within the biome, dimension, dungeon, etc, that they were being added to. So for instance, there's a new update where they overhaul dungeons and they need a flying mob that drops a certain piece of loot the player needs to explore all of the dungeon, you'd get to vote between 3 mobs that would all act a bit different, but still fit that niche. I do agree it would be a bit more boring though, and it's not a perfect solution
I think giving the community the chance to vote for something is a really cool idea, but the stuff we vote for needs to be more vague. Like imagine if the next vote just showed a Eye of Ender, a Blaze Rod, and a Sculk Sensor. No extra context, just the knowledge that, in the future, something related to those items will be added, with the others following in later updates. Just letting the fans decide what direction to take first.
I think you may be an underrated genius. people don't get SUPER mad because they don't know what was going to be added. (except the eye of ender. it would 100% win and if not mojang would get stormed by about 200 million angry children)
My biggest issue with this, is do they REALLY want all the mobs? are you going to be using those mobs at all? most minecraft players neglect lots of mobs, and these mobs dont really add in enough.
so much so i forgot the sakura biome even existed until now, when i think of it, it reminds me of a mod there used to be that had almost the exact same leaf texture.
imo the best thing Mojang could do is continue the mob vote, but have the vote determine which mob gets added _first_ rather than which mobs gets added at all. So the winner gets added in the next update, then runner up gets added in the update after the next update, and then the third one gets added after that one. (gotta love when I pause the video to make a comment, only for the person to say the exact thing I suggested once I unpause it lol XD)
thats perfect since, the reason they cant put all of them in one update is because 1 mob takes one update to polish to make it perfect for the base game, and they did the same idea with the biome vote, why couldn't they do it with the mob vote like the biome vote? There's no reason, i believe they just haven't thought of it, lets hope this time they think of it.
I can't remember the last time I ever heard someone say they had any strong opinion on the Fox, let alone it being "one of the most beloved mobs in Minecraft".
some people definitely really like it, and it is definitely the reason the taiga won the biome vote. if people had been voting for the biome overall, rather than just the mob within the biome, the savannah would have won that biome vote no questions asked, with how many features it adds.
My biggest complaint is how useless and boring a lot of the options are. The most interesting option I’ve ever seen was the icologer because it had the potential to add something new to the game and even a new weapon (as seen in Minecraft dungeons). Its not just mob vote either, its the updates in general, Minecraft for me always felt like its missing something and feels like it needs something. Minecraft has shown multiple times they can make cool monsters and bosses and even weapons. Where it’s been shown the most is the spinoffs games and I believe they should take inspiration from those and add amazing things to the main game with the imagination I know they have. This will make the game a lot more interesting and even improve the game with said new features that could be ontop it.
I got a quote from an action figure collector and try to think deep with this quote. "If you're having trouble making the figure more life like, I don't think them looking off to the side is going to fix that, I think painting the eyes better or y'know putting some actual effort into the figure would make it more life like" Basically if Mojang is struggling to make content, putting out any form of votes isn't going to help, maybe add all of them or put actual effort into the winner mobs that can benefit for those who voted and didn't.
there are currently 19 mobs from votes that have not been added - 3 from 2017's vote, though they said those ones might not get added - 4 from both the biomes of biome votes (termites, meerkats, ostriaches, and vultures) - 4 from china's mob vote - 8 more from the mob votes between 2020-2023 and some those mobs we have been waiting for over half a decade which is basically over 1/3 of minecraft's entire history by this point which is an annoying long time
I feel like maybe the only way to actually quell the communities distain for the mob is to take away the actual democracy, a façade of choice Instead of having three useful mobs or just three boring mobs have two boring mobs, maybe one actually useful mob (or one more likeable mob) Because we’ve seen that the community doesn’t actually like having a democracy and choice because then the mob they voted for has a possibility of not getting in the game. I mean, think about it when they had just three boring mobs they complained that the mob was boring but when they have three useful mobs, they can play that they can’t have all three So just have two boring mobs, and one likeable mob, and the mob will be more unanimous
I saw the idea somewhere else on YT but it is a good idea. the sniffer didn't get much complaint initially because it was the one with the most fleshed out rewards AND people agreed it was better for the most part. hence why it had over 50% of the votes. (golem voters sorry for ya but it may never happen)
While I understand that this method would create much less backlash, it also just feels like a waste of time on the developers part? Why even come up with a mob if its soul purpose is to just, suck? It just feels like a soulless solution to the problem, but again, I understand why it’s mentioned.
I recommend you watch the four parts of the fifteen year anniversary vids that Minecraft made in their TH-cam channel , it kinda changed my perspective on the mob vote and it's overall really interesting since the developers feel like actual people, and not like goofy actors that are trying to make little kids laugh
Honestly outside of the 2017 vote I don't remember them saying anything about the mobs being scrapped, just shelved for later to be reworked later or something from what I remember. Think the last mob vote in '23 implied that was the case, that the mobs could be seen and added later done the line
... have we thought of voting a mob OUT? The one voted out might be added later, but this seems like an incredibly easy solution. There's still that sadness from not having one, but I can't really think of a mobvote without at least one bad candidate (other than the most recent one, everybody wants penguins). There's the Tuff Golem, the Glare, the Glow Squid (with hindsight, but we all knew it was dumb), and in the 2017 one with either The Great Hunger or the Phantom with hindsight.
true, but there's no use complaining now. at the very least, considering that it is a real animal, it's a lot more likely to be added in future than some of the other mob vote losers.
Your solution makes sense logically cause it keeps hype up, doesn’t add too many unnecessary mobs, but keeps ppl from being upset their mob lost. However, there’s still many issues. Ppl will STILL complain that the devs are lazy cause the amount of content being added hasn’t technically changed just what is and when. Also it’s not the best option in terms of getting the best mobs. I’d rather pick 3 mobs from 9 choices over 3 years instead of just choosing the priority of whatever 3 mobs mojang decided we get. This battle is inherently challenged because ppl online don’t or want to understand the issue of power creep/content overload. Since THEY know so much about the game they think everybody does so everyone needs more content. They forget about the fact Minecraft’s playerbase is made up of majority casual players, so while they should support their dedicated players they have to do it with caution in order to not ruin the game for their core casual playerbase.
11:52 this is also the way it is for the mobs, only difference is we havent seen any of the other mobs yet. They did confirm however that the losing mobs arent deleted forever but just go back in the ideas bin until they fit with a different update
the only problem with that is that, without setting a specific date, or explicitly committing, there is nothing stopping them from just indefinitely postponing all of them.
I feel like mojang should at least make the mob a big aspect of the game rather than just a side quest as most of the mobs aren't as needed if you are just playing normally and want to progress
The easiest way to do this is to have a theme for all 3 mobs in the mob vote and then have the community vote to add 3 immediately and 1 in a future update. How it will work is 3 years, 3 different mob vote. A total of 6 mobs being added with a variety of themes. The last 3 would then be added in the 4th year. Year 1. Theme: jungle. Options 1:monkey- purpose. Auto harvest crops and plant them but must have a stable supply of bananas and can only be tamed with a golden banana. (We need a way to automate farms. Option 2: jungle beetles. Purpose: will attack spiders and can be fed spider eyes, it’ll drop a poop clump which can be used for fertilizer that will can be mixed with mud to make fertilizer farming soil. Makes crops grow faster. Option 3: gorillas. Purpose: it’s a hostile mob that when killed drops gorilla hair. It then can be turned into string or be used to make a new items then would automatically feed the player. The drop rate of the hair is slim and you need 8 hair and a chest to craft the food bundle. Year 2: theme: tundra. Option 1: snow squirrels: purpose: when killed will drop 2 items. The first being a ruined acorn than can be crafted into an acorn helmet, the second being an acorn bottom which when getting 5 you can make an acorn bucket. (Alternative to a bucket but cant hold lava) Option 2: snow weasel: purpose: when tamed it can sneak into villages and bring back an emerald or very rarely a new item called “material sack” which has small chances of having coal, iron, gold, lapis,red stone, and copper. It is tamed with a golden cooked chicken. Option 3: snow leopard: purpose: when killed will drop leopard hide which can be used as decorative items or crafted into a set of boots that will provide speed 1 while on snow. Year 3: theme: spooky: Option 1: Jack o lantern golem, will attack mobs and when killed a mob may have a chance to cause the mob to drop candy. Candy doesn’t do much food wise but will grant a small 5 second speed boost 1. Option 2: milk slime: purpose: when using a milk bucket on a fully grown slime it will turn into a tamed milk slime. It doesn’t attack but when killed will stop cheese which can cooked into gooey cheese or be crafted into a raw burger with bread and raw beef and then cooked into a hefty burger that would retire food completely and 6 levels of saturation. Option 3: rats: purpose: can be tamed with golden cheese (you would be able to find cheese in chests in villages instead of a milk slime) rats when tamed can be sheared to get their tails which would be used in a brewing stand to create a new potion. (Idk what kind of potion) Year 4 would be the 3 left over from the previous years that would added into the game and this would repeat the cycle every 4 years. Note: the mobs I listed are just placeholders, I was just using an example of how the mob vote should be set up if it was put to me.
I dont remember where i heard this but i remember someone saying that a good way to solve the mob voteis to add mob votes for the mobs that didnt make it
I swear in last years mob vote when they voted out the penguin they said we shoudnt feel too bad about it because the frogs didnt win the vote either but they still made it in the game.
He conveniently forgot to mention that it was a biome vote, and even then the Swamp vote is not only the only vote of any kind to return at all but didn't even update the swamp
So the solutions are: -Make more biome or event updates. -Make mobs just an add-on for certain updates. -Make more updates more productive for the game (new features, new useful items, item n' feature reworks). -Only do votes for a later year. Yeah tbh I'd agree with everything you said most likely the part with the Phantom, one add on to the list tho: -Make an MC story/lore edition. I have always wanted this ever since I was about a few weeks in the game, to know on actually how the world of Minecraft was shaped to what it is now. Tho making such a version of Minecraft just makes it NOT a sandbox game anymore... I think a lot of players had atleast thought of or just felt that there was somewhat of a story behind the game(even tho it doesn't give any written hints).
They have said losing mob/biome votes "may" eventually come back ever since the 1st biome vote, they just haven't done that yet outside of the mangrove swamp
I was thinking something similar, only with the adventure update (beta 1.8 and release 1.0). if you look through a list of all the features added in that update, it might as well be a list of the features people complain the most about in the game today.
Theres a really easy way the mob vote could get fixed: The mob vote concept should remain the same, but instead of the losing mobs being scrapped, they just get added in later updates similar to how the biome vote was. This isn’t politics, so it’s totally a good idea to have all the mobs get added instead of 2/3rds of the voters being upset. edit: i hope mojang does take into consideration of how mob votes have been going in the last 2 years and that they change things around for the upcoming vote.
I think what also people have to consider here, is the Casual player base that don't go on social media or talk publicly online about their options with Mob Votes. Because they probably look at the Mob Votes and say, "This is a cool mob with some great mechanics that I like. I want to vote for it." And there is evidence for this. Remember back in 2022 during Minecraft Live when one of the people running the Mob Vote during the show said, verbatim, "There was a high amount of votes this year." That, was probably referring to the casual players that was voting during that time. People that probably don't go on social media or publicly talk about what mobs they would referred to have, compared to people that talk about it publicly. I think it's rather important that we bring their thoughts and opinions into the conversation. Because they are a big minority within the player base. Plus, as someone from that group of people, and personally don't talk much publicly about the Mob Votes, I think it's really important. Not only for Minecraft Mob Votes, but also for it's future too.
list of my votes: The Monster of the Night Skies (regreted), Taiga, Thwarter (name for what is now called the Hoglin), Moobloom, Copper Golem, Penguin, Sniffer (regreted), Swamp,
They should just stop having mobs be taken out forever. What they SHOULD be doing is keeping the 2 losers and adding them as options for later mob votes. Having them removed forever is such a waste of an opportunity.
I swear to god if we don't get a full on End Update with new gameplay, structures and mobs I will tweak. Currently, the end is so fucking boring compared to literally everything else. You pop in, kill the dragon (which isn't really a challenge anymore) you run around, find a elytra and leave. That's it. The entire dimension is just a big loot area after you've beaten the dragon.
I think the problem is that the community has grown so large that there are now equal numbers of opposing sides. Half wants the allay, half wants the copper golem. Both of them have unique uses for different aspects and that's what makes mob votes unfair. It's like comparing apples to oranges, they're just simply too different to each other that no one can really agree that one is better than the other using facts, and everything will be opinions. If mojang put for example specifically rock type golems in a mob vote with them having slightly different unique abilities but mainly used for technical minecraft, then everyone can agree which one performs better on that aspect. Maybe have 3 decorative mobs with their only purpose is to be decorative, then the mob vote will be fair. It's the mobs being incomparable to each other that also makes the community so toxic about these mob votes. Take the allay, copper golem, and glare for example. The allay was cute, and it had the unique ability to pick up blocks and drop it to the player or a note block. Kids like it, and technical players like it. The glare warned of enemies around the player when caving, which is useful for survival players (not really though), and the copper golem was liked by technical players and builders. The glare quickly lost for being useless for survival players since they can handle caving by their own, but the allay and copper golem stood. The allay won because majority of minecraft players were kids, and they liked the allay dancing to note blocks, giving them items, and being so happy. Copper golem went very close because it also had the cuteness factor and a lot of players use redstone, and a lot of players are builders. Another example is the moobloom, icologer, and glow squid. Yes, dream rigged the vote hard, but there's still the factors of these mobs being so different from each other. The moobloom is cute, decorative, and useful for farms. The icologer is for survival players who want something to fight and battle with. The glow squid provided "dynamic lighting", was decorative, and everyone thought it was hypnotizing, which survival players liked the idea of. Moobloom lost, since it was only decorative, then icologer lost because survival players, techincal players, and builders thought the mob was gonna be useful to them, compared to the icologer having only mainly survival players and technical players supporting it. At the end, the glow squid turned out to glow like endermen eyes, which already made it useless, then it wasn't actually hypnotizing, so the challenge the survival players wanted was now gone, and it was useless to them, then technical players also have no use for it since it's just a retextured squid now. Mojang needs to make themed mob votes in the future, not like the armadillo, penguin, and crab which are "real life animal" themed, no, that's too broad, the theme should be focusing on only one aspect of the game. Have 3 mobs do builing-related stuff only, or technical-related stuff only, or all of them are enemies you fight to get an important item, or all of them can interact with redstone. Of course, the community will still complain if mojang just locks the lost mobs forever. Imo the community should tell what mobs get added to the game. Mojang asks the community to think of mobs (with the specififc aspect theming) then submit them, then once it's time, make all those mobs compete, until only the top 5 will be added to the game. That way, not only is the community deciding what mob will win, but the community made the mobs and the concepts of those mobs themselves. Mojang will only need to code those mobs in and polish them, and that's it. No brainstorming, no thinking really hard on what mob will fit in the game, just give it to the community and they'll handle it themselves. There's a million or more active players, I'm very sure all of them can think of great mobs rather than just 60 mojang employees who just work and code.
IMO they need to stop focusing on adding new content and instead refine what they have Examples: -Rework old mobs to be more in line with new design philosophy -Do what they did with this update and redo some old structures (ie. Stronghold, mineshaft, jungle temple, desert temple) -Give functionality to things that don't have a use rn (ie. Pandas, Sniffer plants, bats, etc.) -Rework the foods so you have more reason to use anything other than bread or golden carrots
Mojang has actually acknowledged the community's hatred toward the mob vote but didn't clarify what they were going to do with it. They see how attached the community gets with the mobs, so it is best to believe that they have a plan to fix it. Their plan might be ass though.
mojang prefers java actually, its microsoft which prefers bedrock since its their money maker, keeping the bugs makes people believe theyll be fixed making them stay on bedrock longer, paying more money.
Here’s my idea First, like you said, expanding beyond mobs is the best idea. Difference is, in my concept, it wouldn’t just be a biome. It would be like an overall theme. While we’d get a bit of information on what the theme might add, it’d mostly be a mystery. I say this because a big issue I’ve noticed is the lack of interest or surprise in the new content so, without an option to add better content, keeping most of it as a mystery definitely helps to make the updates feel new. This Laos removes a lot of possible disappointment since we aren’t really told what we miss out on. The other themes could also reappear in future votes in case people really want it. Second, decrease the amount of updates and votes we get. Have it be every 2 or even 3 years. This not only gives time to add a lot more but also helps make each feature be refined and made into an interesting update that truly impacts the game.
Hear me out- make multiple voting rounds. For example round once could be deciding between a new mob, tool, biome, or block. Round two could expand on that further…if it was a mob we could choose between nether, end, or overworld. Then the next vote would be choosing a rough idea of the new mob, and the final vote could be deciding what the final mob would be.
Instead of voting a mob to be added it should have been voting a biome for a mod to get added it eliminated the idea that losing mobs will never be added
people say "oh but if they stop the mob vote we wont get any of the mobs". and, yes, that's why we should stop it. the mob vote makes the community get mad at each other, and it takes the focus away from the other things in the update that are bad. going to war with each other about which mob should get into the game, we should focus on Mojang making the game easier and less fun every update.
I did know they recently made a video where they finally talked about the Negativity of the Mob Vote during a video taking about the 15th Anniversary of the Game.
I get the feeling a huge problem with the mob vote is that its lacking with the content. I feel like a good way to make mob vote matter is adding 9 different mobs to choose from and 3 those of 9 woth the most votes will be picked
One thing that should be pointed out is that Bedrock Edition has a far larger playerbase than Java Edition, so it just makes sense for Mojang to advertise things more on Bedrock and appeal more to that community. It seems weird because on TH-cam Java is much more prevalent, but in player numbers Bedrock is way bigger.
Im preatty sure minecraft codes all the 3 mobs before the mob vote and once one mob wins the others get deleted so i dont see why they cant add all 3 mobs.
we do have to remember though, what they said about the nether update-they know it is the most loved by a great deal, but they were year-round going over hours working 10x harder then the average update. probably why they slowed down more recently. remember: it's hard to keep up with hundreds of millions of fans, their requests, and their issues with the game, while having two different versions of the game, two different teams that are across the globe from each other, and having to run small changes by the higher-ups in microsoft and wait for a response.
All the mobs that lost (except for the ones from the first mob vote) will be added eventually. They are just shelved and will be added when the time is right, not gone forever.
If the mob vote is gonna be between real animals again, I think it'd be neat if they did something like what Ark Survival Evolved does and lets the players suggest an animal before putting all the top results into a poll
I understand both the frustration of fans with the slow, poor quality updates and the devs with working on an update for multiple platforms. Which is why I thought "Why not have a dedicated team to adding mobs?" This team of devs (Ill call them Team Mob) can work on mobs that lost previous mob votes. Team Mob can even do "mini mob votes" where fans get to vote for mobs they missed out on. That way, Mojang gets the fan engagement that they want and fans get the satisfaction of eventually getting their favorite mob into the game! Since Team Mob would be a separate team, they can have their own dev time and have a mini update separate from the big update the main team is working on. This means that fans will get more frequent updates and main updates dont need to be rushed! (Unlike what happened with Caves and Cliffs) Lastly, since Team Mob only has to work on one mob per update (and additional features/blocks/items), these mini mob updates will be quick and easy to release! (We could possibly have two mobs per year minimum)
instead of a mob vote they should just slowly add the mobs people have been asking for... they dont even have to do anything special. mobs like penguins or crabs dont have to do anything crazy or drop an item. it would just add more diversity to the world. look at dolphins for example
i think there is two ways to fix the mob vote 1: Keep to a theme, imagine a new magic system that you need to trade for with a lost race, the vote is do you want natural golems that live in caves, a fish race that lives in a harbor village in the middle of the ocean, or a bird race that lives on floating islands? all different and unique, but nobody loses the main feature 2: Take away the creative control from mojang, either by inviting devs from other games to design the mob or by making the community vote on community creations. This way it's more special and extra than just mojang arbitrary choosing who we get to vote for
I wholeheartedly agree that the Mob Votes are terrible because it would be so damned easy to add all of the Mobs into the game. At the point that they show off the Mob Vote trailers, they already have a rudimentary design for each of the Mobs. They already have a good amount of behaviour defined. All they need to do is translate it into 3D models and code... If a team of modders can get all of the Mobs into the game in less than a week, Mojang can definitely add all of them within the 6 months to 1 year between the vote and their addition... I understand that Mojang has some pretty intense quality requirements, but it shouldn't take forever to add how little they do in each update...
I don't think many people understand that mojang has to work with two different versions of this game and consoles. When modders create new mobs really fast, they only do it for one version. I'm not saying the mob vote is good, I'm just saying that adding all 3 mobs isn't a good idea. We wouldn't get many other features.
Personally I think a good solution is changing the vote system as a whole. Instead of voting for 3 completely different mobs, we were given the ability to decide different aspects of a mob. For example: Mojang says they are going to introduce a hostile mob for the nether, then they give us 3 different appearances, 3 different mechanics and 3 different drops it could have and we vote for the ones we think suits it the best. It would make it so that we don’t feel like they are scraping complete ideas, but instead building it with the community.
I feel like if they had added more biomes as wells as new mobs I think would make the Game a lot more fun, and help the community come together. A biome update I would really love would be a deeper ocean since the current is like 20ish below 60. I reckon if the ocean had the deepest point of around 0 it would expand both Biomes, Mobs, Blocks all typeof stuff like that.
The Mob votes were a complete disaster from the VERY. FIRST. ONE. The existence of those fucking Phantoms completely ruin like everyone’s nights. Minecraft didn’t used to have beds, and when they did they were used to set spawn points. You had the CHOICE to use them, but now you HAVE to in order to avoid the phantoms. It’s horrible and not fun at all, and anyone who thinks the Phantoms are in ANY way good for the game I simply cannot comprehend their mental state. And the rest of the votes have us useless mobs that trick the gullible masses because “omg so cute!1!1” even though, again, they bring fuck all to the game. They bring extremely niche and otherwise useless features that I GUARANTEE most players won’t even use in the game most of the time. As for the votes being “rigged”… yeah no, they are. They strategically have each event have a very specific focus on one particular mob that they clearly want to implement into the game and they give the players the illusion of choice. Dream fucking over one of the events just added fuel to the shitstorm. It’s ALL manipulation because Microsoft is holding Mojang by the throat and are preventing them from pushing Minecraft to its true, unbridled potential. It’s extremely disappointing and unbelievably out of touch with the rest of the community. I get that Notch is a controversial figure nowadays, but one of the great things he did when developing the game was the fantastic interaction he had with his community. This is partly the reason he left, because the game became too big and he felt out of place developing a game that became more than he intended. Now obviously, he couldn’t have kept up this community interaction as one guy, but now Minecraft has a whole ass TEAM, they could easily be able to interact with the actual Minecraft community and properly integrate feedback instead of this half-assed corporate approach they’re doing now.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING, whenever i say i hate the phantom people say “oh that’s just a skill issue” like??? And yea the mob votes since then have just been kinda sour on many levels
The mob vote is kinda fun in my opinion. Instead of Mojang having to completely cancel the mob vote or add all 3 mobs to the game, which will be a big time waste, the mob vote losers should be put into experimental features.
I just dislike how disconnected the mobs are from the rest of the game. 1. Phantom: forces you to sleep 2. Glow squid: Makes glowing signs 3. Allay: Gets items 4. Sniffer: Can get you two flowers 5. Armadillo: Can make wolf armor Every mod does one single thing. They are not interesting. They have to tie the mobs in.
I really dislike mob votes. But it was very annoying when people spammed STOP THE MOB VOTE over and over in the chat as if they were gonna cancel it the hour it was gonna happen
I think they need to put a bit more creativity into the mobs instead of just adding real world animals that (usually) don’t even drop anything useful upon death
Yes, we understand it sucks. Unless majority is like 90%+ people, you are literally using a system that leaves everyone who lost with absolutely nothing. Mob votes tend to be around 30-50%, they aren't landslides, in fact most people never get the mob they voted for. I never got a mob I voted for and I voted every time.
In my opinion, Mojang should double down on the mob vote and make it larger and grander. Lasting the whole year up until the next update. Hear me out. There will be two mob list of which those with the most votes one is chosen. First list contains all the mobs currently in the game, of which the winner gets reworked. Second list contains all the mobs previously scrapped from the game, of which the winner gets added. With the announcement of the next Minecraft Live, one new unique mob is announced. Finally, at Minecraft Live, these three options will be voted on.
I think they should have a mon(or mob and more) vote, but then after have a vote between the most popular runner ups from previous updates, so there’s still a way for losers to be added at a later date without being far too much for devs to handle
Biome votes > mob votes
Kinda true
Dude biome votes are worse. one biome gets updated the rest don't. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR NOT UPDATING THEM ALL! so the loosing biome updates will probably never get updated. which sucks
@@cooldude_not Didn't they mention the biome vote was different than the mob vote? That being the biome that won would be the FIRST one to get overhauled? We saw that happen with mountains winning the vote and the swamp getting updated later which added chest boats, frogs and mangrove swamps.
With the first biome vote i'm not too sure since only taiga got changed but it is likely they'll come back to those biomes that lost.
@@cooldude_not not true at all, the swamp lost and still got updated eventually.
@@cooldude_notswamp lost the biome vote but still got updated to have frogs and mangrove trees
"But ill take back everything I said if you remove Phantoms from Minecraft"
facts💀
THEY HATE ME CUZ IM RIGHT
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@ozkoren you do know you can to the Phantoms off in the game rules right you under mods or do you just like, complaining over stupid thing that don't really matter.
@@Highland-Gaming1 yes.
I like phantoms tho
I think they should do a mob vote with the losing mobs until there is no more losing mobs. It would also give them a good amount of time to think of other mobs.
definitely a cool idea.
We get new mobs and the complaints will be lessened. It's a win win for everyone!
@michaelelischer1565 pardon me, but is it me who doesn't understand, or is this comment just pointless? Doesn't this basically mean eventually adding EVERY mob? What's the point of votes then?
@@Mateg-M249 you can choose which one gets added first
@@Mateg-M249 choosing which one is added first is still very impactful, just look at the biome votes.
Technically the first mob vote was a twitter poll between llamas or alpacas
True but I figured most people saw the first mob vote with the phantom
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if you're counting things like that then also count the vote for what to call the illager beast, and what to call the piglin beast
@@VeeFerns both of those happened after phantoms tho
@@VeeFerns where those community polls?
This update would’ve been absolutely perfect to add the copper and tuff golem considering trial chambers are literally made of those materials and it would’ve been perfect to show the community that the mobs aren’t *permanently* gone. Still absolutely insane
spot on, mate. and i agree: it's a wasted opportunity.
This aged well.
Multiple misdiagnoses right at the end. The reason why the Biome vote was the most popular isn't that it was a biome vote (as opposed to a mob vote). It was the fact that the vote determined priority, and all three were eventually added. The reason why the Caves and Cliffs update was so popular was because the community had been asking for an update to caves specifically for years, similar to why everyone loved the Nether update because that's the other thing the community had wanted for years. The reason why the most recent mob vote was the most controversial is because players saw actual value in all three options instead of three boring options that wouldn't have much impact on the game. Wolf armor is another feature that has been requested for years. Increasing block placing range with the crab claw sounds awesome. Having a mob that makes boats faster could've been used to make Nether passageways with boats riding on ice blocks even faster than they already are. People cared so much because all of these mobs are significantly better than any of the options in previous mob votes.
Edit: to add to this, people are disappointed by the Sniffer because everyone kind of assumed that the plants the Sniffer dug up would have a useful function instead of being purely cosmetic. Something that hard to get ahold of should do something special, but they are purely decorative.
But ALL votes are about priority actually. It is confirmed... Mojang just didn't communicate it clear enough. But "losing mobs are scrapped" was really an one-time thing.
@@Lyokoheros-KLPXTV no, there is a difference between the biome and mob votes in that sense. biome vote losers had a 100% chance to come later, whereas mob vote losers will only get into the game if it fits with the update theme or the direction mojang wants to take the game at the time. and even then, as we've seen a few times already, such as with the trial chambers and the two mob vote golems, this is not a guarantee. especially in the case of mobs that affect features mojang has already done updates for, (which includes some of the coolest ones, like the Wildfire) it is very unlikely we will see them anytime in even the next 10-20 years. sometimes mob vote losers are outright replaced as well, which thankfully has only been the case so far with the great hunger (the bane of my existence) having its enchant-removing feature instead given to the grindstone.
they should do the mob vote but then just add a secret 4th mob instead of whatever wins
thatd be such a good meme, PLEASE MOJANG
@@OmicronGaming I'd find it funny but that would probably be minecraft committing death.
Also, try to add the unused mobs, i mean, Illusioner is practically at a 100% done.
Or the giant in a zombie horde.
That would be cool!
Nah the illusioner is def not done. It is very buggy.
As for the giant in my opinion is a bad mob to add
The giant should not be added. However the illusioner is not a bad choice and I fail to understand why they don't add it.
@@Asvaloupas or atleast give it an AI
During the 15 years celebration, they apparently said the illusioner wouldn't be added because they intended it for Dungeons. Then why code it in normal Minecraft?@@Asvaloupas
tbh I feel like the biggest slap in the face that Mojang does to us is using things that look like the BareBones texture pack or Better Animations and ESPECIALLY shaders/dynamic lighting in their OFFICAL trailers, WITHOUT adding them into the base/vanilla Minecraft. Whenever I watch the trailers it makes me think "That's not what Minecraft actually looks like -_-" ... because its almost as if they KNOW Minecraft needs things like that, except they wont listen to the community and add it?... But they add it to the trailers? Ok...
Well, "the losers are lost forever" principle must go anyway!
My idea is - every time do a vote of one new mob and two from the previous votes.
that would cause recency bias, making the voters more likely to pick the new one even if it isnt as good as the other 2, since the other 2 are basically considered boring at this point to the voters, its lost forever because people will stop caring about them, and just shut up and play the game.
@@joshuabarqueesimeth4530 For some people - maybe, but definitely not for all.
I think that statement only applied to the first mob vote, which sucks since those were the most creative
@@Wombattuus except mob C. me and all my homies hate mob C. mob D on the other hand is a masterpiece. 11/10
I keep seeing people say this it's so frustrating. This creates the exact same problem as the normal mob vote, except even worse because fans of returning mobs will only be upset again if and when their mob loses for the second time. If Mojang has a good idea for a new mob, they should add it, and if it doesn't out for whatever reason then it should simply be scrapped *before* it's shown.
I think they should make a mob vote with the losing mobs, like 2 old mobs and 1 new mob
I agree with this giving them another chance in future mob votes would be better than sending them to the void to die
That's a bad idea... "Recency Bias" is a thing, so everyone would just pick the 1 new one. It should be 2 new mobs and 1 old mob, but with care taken to make sure all three are evenly matched.
That was kinda what I was thinking
No. They should just add all the mobs. If they want to have a vote make it for which gets added first.
Imagine your favorite losing mob gets brought back for a second chance and lost a second time. That would probably not make people very happy.
Imagine they say we are not going to make a mob or biome vote this year but then they hit us with a structure vote
honestly. I would rather have a structure vote
"Sir, are you ok? you almost died from a copium overdose!"
Hell nah 🙏
That would be even more frustrating. Imagine You get
1 nether Fortress
2 desert temple
3 end city
People wouldn't be happy to have choose between such great options only to have two be tossed aside.
@@Gigi4u the end city bro
if the crab was in a mob vote... then why wasn't it added in 1.13... the aquatic update? 🤔🤔
crabs are kind of a savory, while the aquatic update is sweet.
the Aquatic Update added a lot, but i'd be lying if i said it feels complete.
i have in mind of the Shark for a neutral mob; the Kraken for a hostile mob; and the Sea Serpent for a Boss mob.
@@jacktheomnithere2127 well then if you got all your special ideas just for you in minecraft, then you would complain that the update wasn't finished fast enough since added 3 more mobs ontop of dolphins and fish will take 2-3 more years to develop. Lets say they were able to add them in the same old development time, then you would complain that the mobs feel like they came from a mod or something since they just don't fit right with the actual game, since you didn't give mojang enough time to polish it for the game.
@@jacktheomnithere2127while i definitely feel the aquatic update is complete on its own, an aquatic boss would be pretty interesting- even tho I’m not a huge fan of combat in any game lol
@@joshuabarqueesimeth4530 i'm perfectly fine with waiting.
the philosophy i used for most of the monsters i had in mind is making something new with what's already there. Mojang would still need time if they did this (and they already did it 7 to 8 times before), and i have little to no problem with it.
my complaint is that they didn't take enough time.
yes, people would have complained - i would have, too - but if it's to perfect something, then i'd have let it be water under the bridge after some time (pun intended, not sorry). hell, i'd be fine if they split it into parts like they did with Caves & Cliffs.
Yes, they should.
They should also announce it at september 9, 2024.
People when Minecraft adds new features: "Minecraft is too complicated, I miss the old game!"
People when Minecraft doesn't add as many new features: "Mojang is so lazy!"
Everyone's a critic
Can i be a critic @@Finley.qdaly4
Missing how Minecraft used to be is not contradictory to wanting Mojang to add what they have shown.
youre acting like its the same people saying both of those things. not every minecraft player thinks the exact same things
@@klinxium8627 Exactly.
One huge problem Mojang has to deal with... If they made the mob vote mobs "low impact," then people complain about how useless they are. BUT when they make them _useful_ people get mad that they don't add all three.
The ONLY reason people started pushing for the "Stop the Mob Vote" trend is because the Crab, Armadillo, and Penguin all had useful abilities that people wanted (well... at least the crab and armadillo... sorry penguin😅). Nobody cared when it was a competition between three useless mobs.
Litterally everyone cared since the glow squid
@@storm_fling1062 nobody cared about the mobs not being useful when it was a competition between useless mobs he means.
@@joshuabarqueesimeth4530 the main argument against the glow squid was it being useless and it didn't glow
@joshuabarqueesimeth4530 most of the iceilager crowd wanted it because it was the only one with a use
Even the allay and copper golem were arguments about use
In my opinion, the only way to do a mob vote without a majority of players feeling disappointed is to have all 3 mobs serve the same gameplay niche, because currently, there is no reason they could not at all 3 mobs, but if the mobs were mutually incompatible then it's much harder to feel disappointed. For instance, if there's an End update, the mob vote could be between three mobs, all of which would act as the guardian for some End dungeon. Now the players are both shaping the core update and don't feel like they lost 2/3 of what they could have gotten
That’s smart! Just like you said, then we don’t feel like we are missing out on gameplay mechanics and instead just choosing the critter that will represent it. Though I would worry about some people feeling as if it’s boring as they “all do the same thing so what’s the point”
@@moeshrooms385 Thanks! And that's why I said gameplay niche instead of mechanic, because I think they could function a bit differently, but they'd serve the same purpose within the biome, dimension, dungeon, etc, that they were being added to. So for instance, there's a new update where they overhaul dungeons and they need a flying mob that drops a certain piece of loot the player needs to explore all of the dungeon, you'd get to vote between 3 mobs that would all act a bit different, but still fit that niche. I do agree it would be a bit more boring though, and it's not a perfect solution
Maybe bring back old mobs in next votes for a second chance?
or 3 new mobs and 2 old ones
or 3 new mobs to vote and 2 old ones for a second chance
That's what I thought! It can be 1 new and 2 old
@@hatmanbuilder yep, and everyone getting peace
@@hatmanbuilder and twitter would still be arguing
I think giving the community the chance to vote for something is a really cool idea, but the stuff we vote for needs to be more vague. Like imagine if the next vote just showed a Eye of Ender, a Blaze Rod, and a Sculk Sensor. No extra context, just the knowledge that, in the future, something related to those items will be added, with the others following in later updates. Just letting the fans decide what direction to take first.
that's actually a really cool idea.
I think you may be an underrated genius. people don't get SUPER mad because they don't know what was going to be added.
(except the eye of ender. it would 100% win and if not mojang would get stormed by about 200 million angry children)
Ban Dream and his fans from voting
My biggest issue with this, is do they REALLY want all the mobs? are you going to be using those mobs at all? most minecraft players neglect lots of mobs, and these mobs dont really add in enough.
yeah, like all the new biomes like mangrove and sakura, ive played 1.20-21 snapshots for months and havent even come across them in survival.
so much so i forgot the sakura biome even existed until now, when i think of it, it reminds me of a mod there used to be that had almost the exact same leaf texture.
@@joshuabarqueesimeth4530 probably a bad example though. if the savanna had won the 2018 biome vote, I would absolutely love savannas in minecraft rn.
imo the best thing Mojang could do is continue the mob vote, but have the vote determine which mob gets added _first_ rather than which mobs gets added at all. So the winner gets added in the next update, then runner up gets added in the update after the next update, and then the third one gets added after that one.
(gotta love when I pause the video to make a comment, only for the person to say the exact thing I suggested once I unpause it lol XD)
thats perfect since, the reason they cant put all of them in one update is because 1 mob takes one update to polish to make it perfect for the base game, and they did the same idea with the biome vote, why couldn't they do it with the mob vote like the biome vote? There's no reason, i believe they just haven't thought of it, lets hope this time they think of it.
I can't remember the last time I ever heard someone say they had any strong opinion on the Fox, let alone it being "one of the most beloved mobs in Minecraft".
some people definitely really like it, and it is definitely the reason the taiga won the biome vote. if people had been voting for the biome overall, rather than just the mob within the biome, the savannah would have won that biome vote no questions asked, with how many features it adds.
I love the Fox, it's very cute.
The fox is definitely my favorite mob. Sure it doesn't do much but it's derpy face and tail wiggle is just too cute.
thanks for giving constructive criticism instead of 90% of twitter nowadays
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My biggest complaint is how useless and boring a lot of the options are. The most interesting option I’ve ever seen was the icologer because it had the potential to add something new to the game and even a new weapon (as seen in Minecraft dungeons). Its not just mob vote either, its the updates in general, Minecraft for me always felt like its missing something and feels like it needs something.
Minecraft has shown multiple times they can make cool monsters and bosses and even weapons. Where it’s been shown the most is the spinoffs games and I believe they should take inspiration from those and add amazing things to the main game with the imagination I know they have. This will make the game a lot more interesting and even improve the game with said new features that could be ontop it.
I got a quote from an action figure collector and try to think deep with this quote.
"If you're having trouble making the figure more life like, I don't think them looking off to the side is going to fix that, I think painting the eyes better or y'know putting some actual effort into the figure would make it more life like"
Basically if Mojang is struggling to make content, putting out any form of votes isn't going to help, maybe add all of them or put actual effort into the winner mobs that can benefit for those who voted and didn't.
Waiting Mojang updates : ✅
Using mods : ❌
The multi-billion studio having to add the simpliest of mobs to the game (they can only add one before getting rly tired): 😨😨😬😬
there are currently 19 mobs from votes that have not been added
- 3 from 2017's vote, though they said those ones might not get added
- 4 from both the biomes of biome votes (termites, meerkats, ostriaches, and vultures)
- 4 from china's mob vote
- 8 more from the mob votes between 2020-2023
and some those mobs we have been waiting for over half a decade which is basically over 1/3 of minecraft's entire history by this point which is an annoying long time
I feel like maybe the only way to actually quell the communities distain for the mob is to take away the actual democracy, a façade of choice
Instead of having three useful mobs or just three boring mobs have two boring mobs, maybe one actually useful mob (or one more likeable mob)
Because we’ve seen that the community doesn’t actually like having a democracy and choice because then the mob they voted for has a possibility of not getting in the game.
I mean, think about it when they had just three boring mobs they complained that the mob was boring but when they have three useful mobs, they can play that they can’t have all three
So just have two boring mobs, and one likeable mob, and the mob will be more unanimous
I saw the idea somewhere else on YT but it is a good idea. the sniffer didn't get much complaint initially because it was the one with the most fleshed out rewards AND people agreed it was better for the most part. hence why it had over 50% of the votes.
(golem voters sorry for ya but it may never happen)
While I understand that this method would create much less backlash, it also just feels like a waste of time on the developers part? Why even come up with a mob if its soul purpose is to just, suck? It just feels like a soulless solution to the problem, but again, I understand why it’s mentioned.
Ironic that TH-cam recommended me this video to me precisely today
Welcome back mr omicrongaming real ones know you've been hibernating but thanks for the yearly banger
LMAOOOO yea back to hibernation I go 😴
Jk good to be back :D
I recommend you watch the four parts of the fifteen year anniversary vids that Minecraft made in their TH-cam channel , it kinda changed my perspective on the mob vote and it's overall really interesting since the developers feel like actual people, and not like goofy actors that are trying to make little kids laugh
Honestly outside of the 2017 vote I don't remember them saying anything about the mobs being scrapped, just shelved for later to be reworked later or something from what I remember. Think the last mob vote in '23 implied that was the case, that the mobs could be seen and added later done the line
... have we thought of voting a mob OUT? The one voted out might be added later, but this seems like an incredibly easy solution. There's still that sadness from not having one, but I can't really think of a mobvote without at least one bad candidate (other than the most recent one, everybody wants penguins). There's the Tuff Golem, the Glare, the Glow Squid (with hindsight, but we all knew it was dumb), and in the 2017 one with either The Great Hunger or the Phantom with hindsight.
Tuff golem was cool!
@@hatmanbuilder sure, you can have your opinion
@@janKoloja Exactly 🙂 Great decoration mob!
Yeah, that's one of the problems with most democratic systems: you only get to vote yes to one option, but the option to vote no is never presented.
That’s an interesting spin on things! I’d like to see how that would play out social media wise
How did people vote armadillos instead of crabs, crabs look so cool and that claw would be so handy!
true, but there's no use complaining now. at the very least, considering that it is a real animal, it's a lot more likely to be added in future than some of the other mob vote losers.
Not to mention, people have wanted wolf aurmor for forever!
@@KaedenDunn-rv1hf yeah people have wanted both wolf armor and extended reach forever, though extended reach is more useful.
Your solution makes sense logically cause it keeps hype up, doesn’t add too many unnecessary mobs, but keeps ppl from being upset their mob lost.
However, there’s still many issues. Ppl will STILL complain that the devs are lazy cause the amount of content being added hasn’t technically changed just what is and when. Also it’s not the best option in terms of getting the best mobs. I’d rather pick 3 mobs from 9 choices over 3 years instead of just choosing the priority of whatever 3 mobs mojang decided we get.
This battle is inherently challenged because ppl online don’t or want to understand the issue of power creep/content overload. Since THEY know so much about the game they think everybody does so everyone needs more content. They forget about the fact Minecraft’s playerbase is made up of majority casual players, so while they should support their dedicated players they have to do it with caution in order to not ruin the game for their core casual playerbase.
11:52 this is also the way it is for the mobs, only difference is we havent seen any of the other mobs yet.
They did confirm however that the losing mobs arent deleted forever but just go back in the ideas bin until they fit with a different update
the only problem with that is that, without setting a specific date, or explicitly committing, there is nothing stopping them from just indefinitely postponing all of them.
I feel like mojang should at least make the mob a big aspect of the game rather than just a side quest as most of the mobs aren't as needed if you are just playing normally and want to progress
Maybe after each major update, they could have an update vote where they give you three options for the next update and you vote on it
Finally it’s been a whole year almost
The easiest way to do this is to have a theme for all 3 mobs in the mob vote and then have the community vote to add 3 immediately and 1 in a future update. How it will work is 3 years, 3 different mob vote. A total of 6 mobs being added with a variety of themes. The last 3 would then be added in the 4th year.
Year 1. Theme: jungle.
Options 1:monkey- purpose. Auto harvest crops and plant them but must have a stable supply of bananas and can only be tamed with a golden banana. (We need a way to automate farms.
Option 2: jungle beetles. Purpose: will attack spiders and can be fed spider eyes, it’ll drop a poop clump which can be used for fertilizer that will can be mixed with mud to make fertilizer farming soil. Makes crops grow faster.
Option 3: gorillas. Purpose: it’s a hostile mob that when killed drops gorilla hair. It then can be turned into string or be used to make a new items then would automatically feed the player. The drop rate of the hair is slim and you need 8 hair and a chest to craft the food bundle.
Year 2: theme: tundra.
Option 1: snow squirrels: purpose: when killed will drop 2 items. The first being a ruined acorn than can be crafted into an acorn helmet, the second being an acorn bottom which when getting 5 you can make an acorn bucket. (Alternative to a bucket but cant hold lava)
Option 2: snow weasel: purpose: when tamed it can sneak into villages and bring back an emerald or very rarely a new item called “material sack” which has small chances of having coal, iron, gold, lapis,red stone, and copper. It is tamed with a golden cooked chicken.
Option 3: snow leopard: purpose: when killed will drop leopard hide which can be used as decorative items or crafted into a set of boots that will provide speed 1 while on snow.
Year 3: theme: spooky:
Option 1: Jack o lantern golem, will attack mobs and when killed a mob may have a chance to cause the mob to drop candy. Candy doesn’t do much food wise but will grant a small 5 second speed boost 1.
Option 2: milk slime: purpose: when using a milk bucket on a fully grown slime it will turn into a tamed milk slime. It doesn’t attack but when killed will stop cheese which can cooked into gooey cheese or be crafted into a raw burger with bread and raw beef and then cooked into a hefty burger that would retire food completely and 6 levels of saturation.
Option 3: rats: purpose: can be tamed with golden cheese (you would be able to find cheese in chests in villages instead of a milk slime) rats when tamed can be sheared to get their tails which would be used in a brewing stand to create a new potion. (Idk what kind of potion)
Year 4 would be the 3 left over from the previous years that would added into the game and this would repeat the cycle every 4 years. Note: the mobs I listed are just placeholders, I was just using an example of how the mob vote should be set up if it was put to me.
I dont remember where i heard this but i remember someone saying that a good way to solve the mob voteis to add mob votes for the mobs that didnt make it
Hello. What do you mean "last year" with the wild update? Last year was Trails and Tales xD.
I’ve been working on this script for a while ngl lmaooo
@@OmicronGaming Makes sense. I figured.
I like the biome votes more then the mob votew
I swear in last years mob vote when they voted out the penguin they said we shoudnt feel too bad about it because the frogs didnt win the vote either but they still made it in the game.
yeah but the frogs were added from a biome vote, not a mob vote, so it's a stupid comparison to make.
He conveniently forgot to mention that it was a biome vote, and even then the Swamp vote is not only the only vote of any kind to return at all but didn't even update the swamp
So the solutions are:
-Make more biome or event updates.
-Make mobs just an add-on for certain updates.
-Make more updates more productive for the game (new features, new useful items, item n' feature reworks).
-Only do votes for a later year.
Yeah tbh I'd agree with everything you said most likely the part with the Phantom, one add on to the list tho:
-Make an MC story/lore edition.
I have always wanted this ever since I was about a few weeks in the game, to know on actually how the world of Minecraft was shaped to what it is now. Tho making such a version of Minecraft just makes it NOT a sandbox game anymore... I think a lot of players had atleast thought of or just felt that there was somewhat of a story behind the game(even tho it doesn't give any written hints).
They have said losing mob/biome votes "may" eventually come back ever since the 1st biome vote, they just haven't done that yet outside of the mangrove swamp
i got an idea of mojang doin a 1.10 part 2 version which adds some of the mob vote losers as an side update
I was thinking something similar, only with the adventure update (beta 1.8 and release 1.0). if you look through a list of all the features added in that update, it might as well be a list of the features people complain the most about in the game today.
Theres a really easy way the mob vote could get fixed: The mob vote concept should remain the same, but instead of the losing mobs being scrapped, they just get added in later updates similar to how the biome vote was. This isn’t politics, so it’s totally a good idea to have all the mobs get added instead of 2/3rds of the voters being upset.
edit: i hope mojang does take into consideration of how mob votes have been going in the last 2 years and that they change things around for the upcoming vote.
I think what also people have to consider here, is the Casual player base that don't go on social media or talk publicly online about their options with Mob Votes. Because they probably look at the Mob Votes and say, "This is a cool mob with some great mechanics that I like. I want to vote for it."
And there is evidence for this. Remember back in 2022 during Minecraft Live when one of the people running the Mob Vote during the show said, verbatim, "There was a high amount of votes this year." That, was probably referring to the casual players that was voting during that time. People that probably don't go on social media or publicly talk about what mobs they would referred to have, compared to people that talk about it publicly. I think it's rather important that we bring their thoughts and opinions into the conversation. Because they are a big minority within the player base. Plus, as someone from that group of people, and personally don't talk much publicly about the Mob Votes, I think it's really important.
Not only for Minecraft Mob Votes, but also for it's future too.
list of my votes: The Monster of the Night Skies (regreted), Taiga, Thwarter (name for what is now called the Hoglin), Moobloom, Copper Golem, Penguin, Sniffer (regreted), Swamp,
bro the hoglin was never part of a mob vote what is bro on about 💀 also I disagree with all of your opinions, but there's nothing wrong with that.
Choose your favorite can be better for future mob votes, so they can see what kind of mobs the community wants
They should just stop having mobs be taken out forever. What they SHOULD be doing is keeping the 2 losers and adding them as options for later mob votes. Having them removed forever is such a waste of an opportunity.
Like... I dont get it... Why wont mojang add the copper golem when the New copper blocks/'items' and the trial chamber(s) were added
I swear to god if we don't get a full on End Update with new gameplay, structures and mobs I will tweak. Currently, the end is so fucking boring compared to literally everything else. You pop in, kill the dragon (which isn't really a challenge anymore) you run around, find a elytra and leave. That's it. The entire dimension is just a big loot area after you've beaten the dragon.
Did anyone ever realize the creeper made out of snow in the back of the mountain scene.
I think the problem is that the community has grown so large that there are now equal numbers of opposing sides. Half wants the allay, half wants the copper golem. Both of them have unique uses for different aspects and that's what makes mob votes unfair. It's like comparing apples to oranges, they're just simply too different to each other that no one can really agree that one is better than the other using facts, and everything will be opinions. If mojang put for example specifically rock type golems in a mob vote with them having slightly different unique abilities but mainly used for technical minecraft, then everyone can agree which one performs better on that aspect. Maybe have 3 decorative mobs with their only purpose is to be decorative, then the mob vote will be fair. It's the mobs being incomparable to each other that also makes the community so toxic about these mob votes.
Take the allay, copper golem, and glare for example. The allay was cute, and it had the unique ability to pick up blocks and drop it to the player or a note block. Kids like it, and technical players like it. The glare warned of enemies around the player when caving, which is useful for survival players (not really though), and the copper golem was liked by technical players and builders. The glare quickly lost for being useless for survival players since they can handle caving by their own, but the allay and copper golem stood. The allay won because majority of minecraft players were kids, and they liked the allay dancing to note blocks, giving them items, and being so happy. Copper golem went very close because it also had the cuteness factor and a lot of players use redstone, and a lot of players are builders.
Another example is the moobloom, icologer, and glow squid. Yes, dream rigged the vote hard, but there's still the factors of these mobs being so different from each other. The moobloom is cute, decorative, and useful for farms. The icologer is for survival players who want something to fight and battle with. The glow squid provided "dynamic lighting", was decorative, and everyone thought it was hypnotizing, which survival players liked the idea of. Moobloom lost, since it was only decorative, then icologer lost because survival players, techincal players, and builders thought the mob was gonna be useful to them, compared to the icologer having only mainly survival players and technical players supporting it. At the end, the glow squid turned out to glow like endermen eyes, which already made it useless, then it wasn't actually hypnotizing, so the challenge the survival players wanted was now gone, and it was useless to them, then technical players also have no use for it since it's just a retextured squid now.
Mojang needs to make themed mob votes in the future, not like the armadillo, penguin, and crab which are "real life animal" themed, no, that's too broad, the theme should be focusing on only one aspect of the game. Have 3 mobs do builing-related stuff only, or technical-related stuff only, or all of them are enemies you fight to get an important item, or all of them can interact with redstone. Of course, the community will still complain if mojang just locks the lost mobs forever.
Imo the community should tell what mobs get added to the game. Mojang asks the community to think of mobs (with the specififc aspect theming) then submit them, then once it's time, make all those mobs compete, until only the top 5 will be added to the game. That way, not only is the community deciding what mob will win, but the community made the mobs and the concepts of those mobs themselves. Mojang will only need to code those mobs in and polish them, and that's it. No brainstorming, no thinking really hard on what mob will fit in the game, just give it to the community and they'll handle it themselves. There's a million or more active players, I'm very sure all of them can think of great mobs rather than just 60 mojang employees who just work and code.
IMO they need to stop focusing on adding new content and instead refine what they have
Examples:
-Rework old mobs to be more in line with new design philosophy
-Do what they did with this update and redo some old structures (ie. Stronghold, mineshaft, jungle temple, desert temple)
-Give functionality to things that don't have a use rn (ie. Pandas, Sniffer plants, bats, etc.)
-Rework the foods so you have more reason to use anything other than bread or golden carrots
Mojang has actually acknowledged the community's hatred toward the mob vote but didn't clarify what they were going to do with it. They see how attached the community gets with the mobs, so it is best to believe that they have a plan to fix it. Their plan might be ass though.
I think they should do the mob vote after the update is announced because then we can choose which mob fits the most with the next update
"mojang prefers bedrock edition much more that Java"
Meanwhile bedrock edition has way WAY more bugs like random deaths
mojang prefers java actually, its microsoft which prefers bedrock since its their money maker, keeping the bugs makes people believe theyll be fixed making them stay on bedrock longer, paying more money.
The reason bedrock has so many bugs is because of consoles
Here’s my idea
First, like you said, expanding beyond mobs is the best idea. Difference is, in my concept, it wouldn’t just be a biome. It would be like an overall theme. While we’d get a bit of information on what the theme might add, it’d mostly be a mystery. I say this because a big issue I’ve noticed is the lack of interest or surprise in the new content so, without an option to add better content, keeping most of it as a mystery definitely helps to make the updates feel new. This Laos removes a lot of possible disappointment since we aren’t really told what we miss out on. The other themes could also reappear in future votes in case people really want it.
Second, decrease the amount of updates and votes we get. Have it be every 2 or even 3 years. This not only gives time to add a lot more but also helps make each feature be refined and made into an interesting update that truly impacts the game.
Hear me out- make multiple voting rounds.
For example round once could be deciding between a new mob, tool, biome, or block.
Round two could expand on that further…if it was a mob we could choose between nether, end, or overworld. Then the next vote would be choosing a rough idea of the new mob, and the final vote could be deciding what the final mob would be.
Instead of voting a mob to be added it should have been voting a biome for a mod to get added it eliminated the idea that losing mobs will never be added
people say "oh but if they stop the mob vote we wont get any of the mobs". and, yes, that's why we should stop it. the mob vote makes the community get mad at each other, and it takes the focus away from the other things in the update that are bad. going to war with each other about which mob should get into the game, we should focus on Mojang making the game easier and less fun every update.
I did know they recently made a video where they finally talked about the Negativity of the Mob Vote during a video taking about the 15th Anniversary of the Game.
Definetly not however they should change the aproach, maybe have the winner be added in the main update and in the smaller subversions add the losers.
welp, this aged like fine wine
I get the feeling a huge problem with the mob vote is that its lacking with the content. I feel like a good way to make mob vote matter is adding 9 different mobs to choose from and 3 those of 9 woth the most votes will be picked
One thing that should be pointed out is that Bedrock Edition has a far larger playerbase than Java Edition, so it just makes sense for Mojang to advertise things more on Bedrock and appeal more to that community. It seems weird because on TH-cam Java is much more prevalent, but in player numbers Bedrock is way bigger.
Mojang despises bedrock like they have nothing💀
yes
they should just add all 3 and have it be "which one do you want added FIRST"
Idea:we get a 2nd chance mob vote with the losers for a few years then do biome votes and add the few remaining losers in later updates
Im preatty sure minecraft codes all the 3 mobs before the mob vote and once one mob wins the others get deleted so i dont see why they cant add all 3 mobs.
we do have to remember though, what they said about the nether update-they know it is the most loved by a great deal, but they were year-round going over hours working 10x harder then the average update. probably why they slowed down more recently.
remember: it's hard to keep up with hundreds of millions of fans, their requests, and their issues with the game, while having two different versions of the game, two different teams that are across the globe from each other, and having to run small changes by the higher-ups in microsoft and wait for a response.
All the mobs that lost (except for the ones from the first mob vote) will be added eventually. They are just shelved and will be added when the time is right, not gone forever.
If the mob vote is gonna be between real animals again, I think it'd be neat if they did something like what Ark Survival Evolved does and lets the players suggest an animal before putting all the top results into a poll
New Idea: They take every major category of what is happening in the update, and they make a vote for what topic gets snapshots first.
Honestly, the glow squid is one of the better mob votes for me because glow ink has been nice to use for builds
I understand both the frustration of fans with the slow, poor quality updates and the devs with working on an update for multiple platforms. Which is why I thought "Why not have a dedicated team to adding mobs?"
This team of devs (Ill call them Team Mob) can work on mobs that lost previous mob votes. Team Mob can even do "mini mob votes" where fans get to vote for mobs they missed out on. That way, Mojang gets the fan engagement that they want and fans get the satisfaction of eventually getting their favorite mob into the game!
Since Team Mob would be a separate team, they can have their own dev time and have a mini update separate from the big update the main team is working on. This means that fans will get more frequent updates and main updates dont need to be rushed! (Unlike what happened with Caves and Cliffs)
Lastly, since Team Mob only has to work on one mob per update (and additional features/blocks/items), these mini mob updates will be quick and easy to release! (We could possibly have two mobs per year minimum)
Idea: the losing mobs get added in future mob votes
instead of a mob vote they should just slowly add the mobs people have been asking for... they dont even have to do anything special. mobs like penguins or crabs dont have to do anything crazy or drop an item. it would just add more diversity to the world. look at dolphins for example
i think there is two ways to fix the mob vote
1: Keep to a theme, imagine a new magic system that you need to trade for with a lost race, the vote is do you want natural golems that live in caves, a fish race that lives in a harbor village in the middle of the ocean, or a bird race that lives on floating islands? all different and unique, but nobody loses the main feature
2: Take away the creative control from mojang, either by inviting devs from other games to design the mob or by making the community vote on community creations. This way it's more special and extra than just mojang arbitrary choosing who we get to vote for
I wholeheartedly agree that the Mob Votes are terrible because it would be so damned easy to add all of the Mobs into the game.
At the point that they show off the Mob Vote trailers, they already have a rudimentary design for each of the Mobs. They already have a good amount of behaviour defined. All they need to do is translate it into 3D models and code...
If a team of modders can get all of the Mobs into the game in less than a week, Mojang can definitely add all of them within the 6 months to 1 year between the vote and their addition...
I understand that Mojang has some pretty intense quality requirements, but it shouldn't take forever to add how little they do in each update...
I don't think many people understand that mojang has to work with two different versions of this game and consoles. When modders create new mobs really fast, they only do it for one version. I'm not saying the mob vote is good, I'm just saying that adding all 3 mobs isn't a good idea. We wouldn't get many other features.
Personally I think a good solution is changing the vote system as a whole. Instead of voting for 3 completely different mobs, we were given the ability to decide different aspects of a mob. For example: Mojang says they are going to introduce a hostile mob for the nether, then they give us 3 different appearances, 3 different mechanics and 3 different drops it could have and we vote for the ones we think suits it the best. It would make it so that we don’t feel like they are scraping complete ideas, but instead building it with the community.
Hot take: the mob vote is fine we just suck at choosing good mobs
Agreed
There's a website where people post updates they want to come to minecraft, and people can upvoye them. They should just pick the top one.
I feel like if they had added more biomes as wells as new mobs I think would make the Game a lot more fun, and help the community come together.
A biome update I would really love would be a deeper ocean since the current is like 20ish below 60. I reckon if the ocean had the deepest point of around 0 it would expand both Biomes, Mobs, Blocks all typeof stuff like that.
The Mob votes were a complete disaster from the VERY. FIRST. ONE. The existence of those fucking Phantoms completely ruin like everyone’s nights.
Minecraft didn’t used to have beds, and when they did they were used to set spawn points. You had the CHOICE to use them, but now you HAVE to in order to avoid the phantoms. It’s horrible and not fun at all, and anyone who thinks the Phantoms are in ANY way good for the game I simply cannot comprehend their mental state.
And the rest of the votes have us useless mobs that trick the gullible masses because “omg so cute!1!1” even though, again, they bring fuck all to the game. They bring extremely niche and otherwise useless features that I GUARANTEE most players won’t even use in the game most of the time.
As for the votes being “rigged”… yeah no, they are. They strategically have each event have a very specific focus on one particular mob that they clearly want to implement into the game and they give the players the illusion of choice. Dream fucking over one of the events just added fuel to the shitstorm.
It’s ALL manipulation because Microsoft is holding Mojang by the throat and are preventing them from pushing Minecraft to its true, unbridled potential. It’s extremely disappointing and unbelievably out of touch with the rest of the community.
I get that Notch is a controversial figure nowadays, but one of the great things he did when developing the game was the fantastic interaction he had with his community.
This is partly the reason he left, because the game became too big and he felt out of place developing a game that became more than he intended.
Now obviously, he couldn’t have kept up this community interaction as one guy, but now Minecraft has a whole ass TEAM, they could easily be able to interact with the actual Minecraft community and properly integrate feedback instead of this half-assed corporate approach they’re doing now.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING, whenever i say i hate the phantom people say “oh that’s just a skill issue” like??? And yea the mob votes since then have just been kinda sour on many levels
"mojang prefers bedrock over java" I actually spit out my water
The mob vote is kinda fun in my opinion. Instead of Mojang having to completely cancel the mob vote or add all 3 mobs to the game, which will be a big time waste, the mob vote losers should be put into experimental features.
Make mob votes with old mobs that didn't win to give the community favorites a second chance.
I just dislike how disconnected the mobs are from the rest of the game.
1. Phantom: forces you to sleep
2. Glow squid: Makes glowing signs
3. Allay: Gets items
4. Sniffer: Can get you two flowers
5. Armadillo: Can make wolf armor
Every mod does one single thing. They are not interesting. They have to tie the mobs in.
Fair point!
After waiting a millennia bro finally posted 🙏
I really dislike mob votes. But it was very annoying when people spammed STOP THE MOB VOTE over and over in the chat as if they were gonna cancel it the hour it was gonna happen
I think they need to put a bit more creativity into the mobs instead of just adding real world animals that (usually) don’t even drop anything useful upon death
A really interesting idea I have is what if instead of voting for a new mob you could vote for a new biome with some new blocks and a mob or two.
what a coincidence, I think similarly
I don’t think people understand the concept of a democracy. I’m not saying everyone is but just the most vocal people I think.
Democracy isn’t a good thing it had proven countless times to not work
Yes, we understand it sucks. Unless majority is like 90%+ people, you are literally using a system that leaves everyone who lost with absolutely nothing. Mob votes tend to be around 30-50%, they aren't landslides, in fact most people never get the mob they voted for. I never got a mob I voted for and I voted every time.
In my opinion, Mojang should double down on the mob vote and make it larger and grander. Lasting the whole year up until the next update.
Hear me out. There will be two mob list of which those with the most votes one is chosen.
First list contains all the mobs currently in the game, of which the winner gets reworked.
Second list contains all the mobs previously scrapped from the game, of which the winner gets added.
With the announcement of the next Minecraft Live, one new unique mob is announced.
Finally, at Minecraft Live, these three options will be voted on.
I think they should have a mon(or mob and more) vote, but then after have a vote between the most popular runner ups from previous updates, so there’s still a way for losers to be added at a later date without being far too much for devs to handle