Boeing Vs Airbus: Who Won The 2023 Paris Air Show?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- While it began with a significantly vibrant kick-start, things settled a few days in to the 54th edition of the highly-anticipated Paris Air Show. Displays were shown and products were flown, and aircraft manufacturing giants like Airbus and Boeing certainly walked away with expected substantial orders to add to their growing books.
With big events like these, it always seems ot be a competition between the two giants to see whose products proved to be more popular. So who won higher stakes this time?
Let’s look at the results and perform some analysis of the outcomes for today’s video!
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If it wasn't for Air India ordering 220 Boeing aircraft, the better comparison would have been Airbus VS Embraer, as Embraer had a very good airshow.
Do you have the numbers for Embraer?
After the show, Mexican airlines Volaris and Vivaaerobus also placed significant orders with Airbus. The latter placed an order for 90 A321 neos!
Volaris ordered at the end of Day 2. But yes, Viva Aerobus placed an MoU for 90 A321neos yesterday.
It s almost impossible at this point for Boeing to ever overtake Airbus. Too many problems with the Max 8 and Dreamliner while documentaries also didnt help. On another note the 350, 220 & 320 are just continuously winning
I just hope P&W can get their stuff sorted out to stop the grounding of so many a220/a320 aircraft
@@bandbigredagree. The PW engines seems to be plagued with issues despite its incredible performance and efficiency. They are one serious incident from a grounding of all equipped aircraft if they can’t work out the issues.
It’s not impossible. If Boeing comes with a product that can be a replacement for the 737 and 757 narrow bodies it will bring them back.
Unless Boeing invests in a new clean sheet aircraft, it will continue to decline and lose market share to Airbus. But Boeing being Boeing, they will absolutely not invest in a new product!
Same comment over and over again. 787s selling like hotcakes. 777-9 development is going smooth. 737 Max is regaining trust from customers.
Air india ordered 20 787-9 with 20 options
Part of the 470 aircraft order.
@@heidirabenau511 I mean that simple flying didn't mention air india 787 order in Boeing order book
I think airbus is knocking it out of the park in terms of aircraft design and comfort. I flew to india through Etihad from JFK. Once with the 787 and once with their recently deployed A350s the A350s are for sure far more comfortable imo
Sound like an airplane novice. Comfort and perks depend on the Airline and what interior retrofit they choose..
Good things this is is the aviation community which is open arms to all types of Aviation enthusiasts whether we are novices or pros. @@LukaksPInc Im aware im not getting on Spirit, RyanAir or Frontier expecting cabins to be like Etihad, Emirates, and Qatar
I totally agree. Airbus planes are more specious and comfortable!
@@LukaksPInc it was both etihad
Those 787 windows tho
Clearly the Indian market is taking over with all these aircraft’s which is great news. The Canadian market has been picking up a lot as well, let’s see if any news will pop up in the Dubai air show
i was wondering...do you think there is a strategy to airlines making purchasing announcements at a particular airshow?? i mean Farnborough just happened a bit ago and dubai is coming in a few months and I would imagine its gonna basically be the same.
I guess for Airbus this is an “Indian Summer.” I’ll see myself out
😂
Didn't Air India order 20 787-9s,which was in the original letter of intent?
Part of the 470 aircraft order...
Yeah, I was thinking this too. Guess they missed it
6:52 You include air india b777x in Boeing order
But not include air india 20 b787-9
How you miss out 😔
India's aviation market is booming!
I think Air India ordered 20 787s
Part of the 470 aircraft day.
Hey meybe they change their minds good choice
i want to see an a350neo with the ultrafan
I am always more relaxed and joyful to see an Airbus as my plane then a Boeing.
With so many orders in Paris Air show and obviously with a finite capacity to build and deliver those orders which might go well into the next decade, I don't know if it makes any sense or purpose for an Air show every year and particularly in 2024 next year.There could be other airline companies who may place orders but how and when they can be delivered by the manufacturers i.e., mostly Boeing and Airbus ?
From the passenger point of view I found the A320 family far superior than the 737 family
From a passenger point of view i dont see any difference. More steps on the 320 I guess
I prefer the 737, feels more alive
@@mabamabamthe 320s are definitely more spacious. not a lot, but every inch counts when you're literally squished against each other.
Love the A320 and 737, been on them multiple times as a PAX but i don‘t see the big difference everyone is talking about tbh LCC or not i feel cramped in all of them and no im not obese😂😂
@@CoffeeFlightthat depends on airline specifications !
What's with India ? They ordered 500 aircraft a few months ago again 500 ?
Soon indigo will order for A350 , and Akasa air order 100+ narrow body plus wide body planes, plus others also buying planes from India❤
I think That it is good that Boeing got more orders for the max and I'm excited for lux air max 7
I'll never step inside a Max plane! Without the stabilization system, the plane will fly into the ground! That's because the engines are too large and had to be mounted to high over the wing!
If it weren't for that historically massive Indigo order the order totals would've been about the same. Congrats to Airbus on being the one to get it, but their order backlog is getting so inflated they're going to have a tougher time getting new orders soon because of how much longer customers will have to wait to get theirs than with Boeing. Not a bad problem to have, but I'd expect Boeing to start taking the lead soon when it comes to orders in the next couple years (assuming nothing crazy happens)... Mainly due to the much longer wait times to get new planes from Airbus. Anyways, in the end the narrative for this airshow pretty much came down to that one big order.
Yes And no about Airbus struggling to get new orders. Many European Airlines, like Air France-KLM, are set to order widebody aircraft.
If you remove Indigo's order, Airbus is still ahead, barely yes, but ahead anyway.
And yes, I agree they have to ramp up production to manage the waiting time.
Same can be said about Boeing. If you remove Air India's order, Boeing is basically out of the game!
@@Bb13190 You also have to remember in May before the show, Boeing won orders for 300 MAX 10's from Ryanair which is partially a reason why Boeing didn't get *as* many at the show.
You know that your company is doing bad when people try to comfort you by saying that you would have won had there been no competition...
full service carriers around the world should opt for more B787-9 & B787-10 wide body jets, from an operator's point of view . . . the B787-9 & B787-10 wide body jets that are vastly improved variants over the B787-8 . . . guess the B737-MAX8 & B737-MAX9 debacle destroyed Boeing Aircraft Company's 74 years of untainted reputation, literally over night . . .
Boo
Sorry mate . I will never again fly anything Boeing. That company knew the MAX was not safe and let it be. They are murderers and I will not fly on any of their planes . Ever
my personal opinion is that boeing should make more planes like the dreamliner and stop using those goofy ahh 70 years old designs. Its 2023 and they gonna release the 777x with cockpit windows from 1950. Airbus is light years ahead of boeing, just look at the a350, that aircraft looks like a spaceship
Where is Air India 787 -9 Dreamliner orders 20 such planes are ordered by Air India 😅😅
Airbus has the past few years with the A220, A321N, and A350, and likely will for the foreseeable future, until Boeing can start producing the 777X/F, and design a 757 and 737 replacement.
I dont know why but i find airbus more comfortable than Boeing on economical class . Is that is true with others too ?I hve flown on a330 a380 b747 a321 neo a350 b787, b737 max
AIRBUS won
Airbus
Airbus for me. Safe, comfortable, much more advanced plane. No crash 8 for me
How could Airbus not win? This is Boeing's company karma for putting profit before lives and rushing the 737 MAX program. At least they're taking their time with the 777X program but the delays aren't charming anyone into making an order unfortunately.
I heard biman bangladesh airlines was ordering 10 a350 8 passenger and 2 freighters
I believe its either not confirmed or Biman is an Undisclosed customer.
The next big airshow would be the pacific airshow on the Gold Coast in August this year?
thai airways wants to order some a350 but they are short on funds
Very cool!
FYI...The avg delivery wait time for an A320 is approx 6yrs. The only way to move up in line is to buy more planes. Many airlines have historically done this in order to start seeing deliveries sooner, only to either not exercise their options, or cancel some of the remaining deliveries. Indigo needs these A320's sooner rather than later. Not saying that's what their plan is, but take away that 1 order & Airbus & Boeing are neck & neck, a difference of 5 aircraft.✈️✌️😉
Before Airbus fans / Boeing haters celebrate, Boeing did clock more orders at Farnborough last year, so its 1-1 heading into Dubai. We need both manufacturers doing well so we can enjoy reliable and enjoyable aircraft on our travels.
Farnborough is smaller and Airbus didn't went there for orders. They mentionned it before.
And if you want to be throughout, you have to had both, and in that case Airbus is still ahead, and by some margin.
Plus, I really don't see the point of your comment. The video is about Paris Air Show, not a global score keeping between the two aircraft manufacturer.
If you look at the order between 2000 and this year Paris Air Show, it will be a different picture too.
There are more Boeing babies/ airbus haters than Boeing haters
But many of the orders were for uncertified planes. I’m not convinced
Ignore the haters and fanboys. They haven’t understood your comments. Indeed orders are even.
I’m a A220 fan. 🇨🇦 Veteran
I think Airbus has the better range right now.
U clearly know little about planes then. Heard of the 777x?
Video could be a lot more concise... Reciting press releases is boring.
It will take 20 years to fulfill those orders, by then many new jet models will be available...
821v316. If you subtract the 500 plane order airbus is still on top by 5
Remember Boeing won 300 MAX 10's from Ryanair before the show
@@Jack3md”won” + the plane is not even certified. Airbus also got 90 orders for a320N after the show
@@vincevanderperre8660 I mean the A321XLR is not even certified either...is it? Something Airbus doesn't do is remove the unlikely orders that will be delivered, like Boeing does. It's called the ASC 606 adjustment. Plus Boeing has outpaced Airbus in widebody orders, 787 beating the A350 by a mile lately.
I think AIRBUS and BOEING both should open their maintenance Hub in India, because that is the epicenter of Global Economy.
Indian Flag Carriers place 1000+ orders, and in future more orders may come, so they should need that prompt service also from this two house.
Hats off India.
They don't really do repairs, they make aircraft but third party companies (such as Lufthansa Tekhnik) performs maintenance
India 🇮🇳
ok, serius question:
Is this voice an AI? How the heck do you publish 150 Articles every week, is there AI involved?
- “How the heck do you publish 150 Articles every week”
By writing a lot of superficial articles, without doing much research for them. One way to do that is to take press releases from aviation companies, and edit them to look as if they were original content from you. It's dishonest, but gives you a lot of content with little trouble. A more honest way would be to just publish the press releases as they are, and label them as press releases (that's what high-quality aviation sites do).
Another way is to divide subjects to smaller and smaller pieces, and write individual articles about all of them, and do your best to make each individual piece to look like a big thing, as in "Explained: Travelling With Ice Hockey Equipment" instead of "Explained: Travelling With Unusual And Large Equipment, or "Did You Know: Some UK Universities Offer Degrees That Include Pilot Training" instead of "List of Universities Offering Degrees That Include Pilot Training". Notice also the fluffy words meant to spike up your interest: "Explained" and "Did You Know". One more funny example: “How High Did Concorde Fly?”. Yes, that’s an individual article on Simple Flying :-).
Endless Top lists are yet another way. The aviation industry produces a huge amount of all kinds of statistics, and presenting those statistics as a competition can make them look interesting enough to people who don’t actually care. Some examples: “Top 5: What Were Spain's Busiest Airports Last Year?”, “Ten Longest Routes From Houston George Bush Intercontinental Airport”, “Sitting Comfortably? These Are Allegiant’s Longest Routes In July 2023”,
There would be more to say about the matter, but I have things I have to do :-).
There's little point in Boeing turning up to the Paris Airshows
Too bad it won’t create a pilot job for me..😏😏✈️
No one can forget the 737 max self inflicted disaster of Boeing. One of the biggest economic and reputational catastrophes ever!
What an era of competition where Airbus stood 1st and Boeing became 2nd...... wait is a minute.... who was 3rd? Or 4th, 5th...... what an era of tough competition 😂
Is it even worth asking the question ?
Airbus is eating Boeing's lunch, and for good reason. They have a much better range of products
Not really, I mean Boeing has won over 200 orders from last year into this from just the 787 alone, the best selling widebody by Boeing or Airbus. Plus Boeing just won 300 MAX 10's from Ryanair before the show
No one's buying the A330neo. 777-9 would demolish the A350 when it comes to service. Airbus only excels in narrow bodies.
@@brakinglate8828in terms of passenger comfort Boeing isn’t even on the list
@@Jack3md boeing is selling max 10 a plane which still isn’t certified. Good jub and stupid customers
@@herceg6772 Maybe you aren’t aware but every manufacture sells planes that aren’t certified. The A321XLR isn’t even certified either…777X..not certified. Is this new to you or what?
The show was really boring actually. There were no major orders we didn't already know about.
How can any airline trust Boeing. Their business model is still Profits above all else..!!!
I'll never set foot on a "Max" out of respect for the 347 passengers who lost their life to Boeing
Greed..
What's a Paris air show without a Russian plane crashing.?
I don't think that Boeing will ever recover from the disaster involving the 737 MAX design which led to two crashes and resulted in 346 deaths!
They choose to take shortcuts in order to compete with Airbus A320 aircraft and deceived the FAA and the public. Because Boeing it's a private company, unlike Airbus, profit is a big motivator which could lead to similar disasters in the future. I have a much greater level of assurance when I step into an Airbus plane knowing it was designed by multiple European countries with very transparent government oversite.
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Bro the show is so biased
Everybody is bad mouthing Boeing why don’t you talk about the Dubai air how where Airbus got their evening kicked
The time will come when Airbus will beef all the help it can get
COMAC won !
what about Embraer ?