Lawrence Krauss vs Hamza Tzortzis | Islam vs Atheism Debate
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- 00:00:24 Introduction | Timothy Yusuf Chambers
00:06:30 Opening Remarks | Hamza Tzortzis
00:32:02 Opening Remarks | Lawrence Krauss
00:59:33 Rebuttal | Hamza Tzortzis
01:14:28 Rebuttal | Lawrence Krauss
01:22:43 Summary Discussion
01:42:07 Question & Answer Session
02:06:00 Closing Remarks | Lawrence Krauss
02:07:50 Closing Remarks | Hamza Tzortzis
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why?
Hey educated idiot why don't you show your loyalty with Darwin? Don't be ugliest thing of universe and accept my challenge, with which face you are teaching the fake knowledge even your heart don't believe that.
Pope rabi atheists and all other fuel of hell type humans are now prisoners of their own hearts by me for many years same as you are prisoner of your own heart now, so take it easy and for freedom come in the Ring, Facebook people are witness that I captured all pseudo humans with help of Allah for many years. whole world and Allah (God) is watching your loyalty with your beliefs.
👉🚥🚦Show your confidence in your religion, science or reason. I suggest you with respect that you follow the Holy Quran, if you don't agree with me? then after death liar will take other's and his whole nation's sins, do you agree? Be brave now.
By the all holy books and medical science dead mankind is non communicable and if you call dead personalities or prophets along with Allah (God) and seek help from dead mankind then you will Never go to the heaven, if you don't agree with me then after death liar will take other's and his whole nation's sins, do you agree? Be brave now?
(Don't relate pseudo Muslims with Holy Quran.)
@@blueinfinite5940 why not?
@@deuces_biatch1706 it's a silly thing that Arabic speaking muslims feel that a deeper truth is revealed in Arabic - and since most of the world does not speak Arabic, then it is a sad commentary that Allah chooses to leave out so many people from truly understanding him. I thought he was supposed to be akbar.
جزاكم الله خيرا على الترجمة
I'm an atheist, but I have to admire Hamza's style here. And I find Krauss's attitude kind of hard to watch.
@@oscarbarrera6081 please study Islam my brother, u will find the truth
My friend I would suggest learning about Islam , It teaches us to respect one another unlike the proffesor
@@oscarbarrera6081 My friend I am pretty sure u know maybe even a little a bit of Islam , if you dont and wont then that is your choice but I can tell you Islam is a religion of peace and it means to submit yourself to the one and truly God (Allah) and to follow the teachings of his beloved prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon him) and also Islam teaches you about cleanliness and we Muslims after passing urine or stool ,we wipe with tissue first , then with water because it is very important and pure but I'm 100% sure non Muslims do not . I am not here to preach but why do u think the media and everywhere in this world is just targeting Muslims. Its because they know it's TRUE my brother so it's for you to decide, I personally chose to become Muslim because they dont eat pork /pig because it eats it's own poo , surely that's disgusting. Like I said I've done my part preaching , it's your choice
@@oscarbarrera6081
The Qur'an is God's Words:
In the name of Allah(God), The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful.
All besides those believers who have pure faith, irrespective of which religious background they claim to have come from, merely a single sign would suffice them to believe in the existence of One God, whether it be a sign concerning a scientific phenomenon or any other sign. Where as, on the other hand, there are people who would never believe even if a thousand signs are presented to them, such people would never accept faith and as such they are the Rejectors; there may be a third sect/group/category of people who may be convinced if proper efforts are made, either by means of science and technology, or by reasoning and with logic or by any other technique.
As today is the age of science and technology, the best approach we have is the use of scientifically proven and established facts, excluding hypotheses and theories (which lack solid evidence) in order to convince an atheist or an agnostic or any other individual who may not believe that the Qur'an is the revelation of God, as no human being could ever mention such scientific facts in the Qur'an, 14 centuries back which the humanity has unveiled/discovered very recently,with the help of rapidly growing technology and the advances made by the modern scientific world.
Majority of the people who disagree with the fact that the Qur'an has been sent down by God, revealed to the last and final messenger and servant of God, i.e. prophet Mohammad (pbuh), when asked about the reason they disbelieve, what they come up with is that they falsely claim that the Qur'an must have been written by prophet Mohammad himself as they do not have any better explanation for not believing in the Qur'an or Allah.
With the help of mathematics, we can refute their baseless claim (that Muhammad is the author of the Qur'an, they even fail to realise that he was an Ummi,i.e. he was unlettered/illiterate!).
Nevertheless,even for the sake of an argument, let us be kind enough to give them a benefit of doubt, and say that may be, prophet Muhammad wrote the Qur'an (though we never agree!).
Now we shall refute their false claim with the help of what we know in mathematics as 'The Probability Theory'.
Probability is basically concerned with the likelihood or the chance of something happening/taking place or not happening for which we make certain guesses/flukes or predictions at random and calculate the chance of our choice or guess coming true as a number or percentage.
Probability has a range of 0-1. Having a probability of 0 implies the impossibility of the occurence of the event we are dealing with, on the other hand, probability of 1 means that the event is sure to occur, thus affirming a 100% possibility of the occurrence of the event we are dealing with. Any number in between would indicate that the event may either occur or not.
For example,if you toss or flip a coin(fair), there are(a total of), two possibilities, it may either land up with a head or tail, whatever choice you make the mathematical chance/probability of your guess being rightat random is 1 out of 2,i.e. 1/2 or 50%.
Further, if you have a die (having 6 faces) and you roll it, the chance of your guess-number coming on the top is 1/6 as there are a total of 6 distinct choices to make.
Similarly,if you roll the die 2 times in succession/consecutively or roll two dice simultaneously (both yield the same result, these are termed as 'independent events' meaning that the two (or more) events have no influence/impact on one another; they yield independent results) what you'll see is, the probability of both your choices being right at the same time is merely
(1/6)×(1/6) i.e. 1/36 which is < 3%.
Now,if you roll the die 3 times successively,the chance of you making the right choice all three times,just at random is
(1/6)×(1/6)×(1/6) i.e. 1/216 which is < 0.5%.
Let us now consider the compound event of tossing the coin 2 times and rolling the die 4 times,the probability of you making the correct choices all 6 times is therefore
(1/2)×(1/2)×(1/6)×(1/6)×(1/6)×(1/6)=(1/2)^2 × (1/6)^4 =(1/4)×(1/1296)=1/5184 which is ~ 0.02%.
Let me generalize the method for you.
If you repeat an experiment for n different times and all of which must deal with independent events as in our case here, fortunately; and you have a probability of, say 'p' for each of the individual events and of course 0 < p < 1.
Now you want to calculate the probability of you making the correct choice all 'n' times i.e. each time you making the right choice without a single mistake..
It is p^n,i.e. 'p' raised to the power of 'n'.
For those who are good at maths, they can readily see that this number, p^n quickly reaches 0 when |p| < 1 and n is let increase!!
Praise be to Allah SWT,all the Qur'anic verses that talk about scientific phenomena can be modelled as ' the independent events' in this very analysis of ours.
And the holy Qur'an contains more than 1,000 (out of more than 6,000 verses in total) verses which speak about science. And more than 800 of which have already been supported by established scientific facts.
1.
For example, the Qur'an says that the light of the moon is not its own light but rather, it is the reflected light of the sun (the moon reflects the light from the sun onto the earth), for this one people (at the time of the revelation of the Qur'an,i.e. at the time of the prophet) could have made two choices (if they were asked, hypothetically) i.e. the light of the moon could be the light of its own or it could be the borrowed light of the sun.
2.
Similarly, the Qur'an talks about the spherical shape (more accurately, the geo-spherical shape, as the earth is slightly flattened at the poles and slightly bulging out at the equatorial region,i.e. the 'circle of maximum diameter').
People could have thought of various shapes for the earth such as flat, triangular,rectangular etc. So, lfor this particular one, the number of choices would be more than 2.
3.
The Qur'an states that the Sun also rotates (about its own axis)...people couldn't even have thought of this, at the time of the prophet as this one is a very very recent discovery, we came to know about this hardly a few decades earlier. So even for this particular one, there would be 2 choices to make, the Sun may either rotate or not! (For the sake of argument only!)
4.
The Qur'an talks, in a nutshell, about the birth of our universe which the scientists today call the Big Bang, it may be right or wrong. ..So for this too, we would have 2 choices.
5.
The Qur'an talks about the interstellar matter, called 'plasma' by the scientists. Again, could be right or wrong. ..So 2 choices for this too.
6.
The Qur'an states that our universe has been expanding. Again, could be right or wrong. .So for this too, we have 2 choices.
And so on..
The Qur'an talks about scientific phenomena,over and over again, for more than 1,000 times.
Each verse which talk about a scientific phenomenon, can be attributed a number of choices we can think of, as above. These choices vary, from 2 (which is the least/minimum number of choices) to larger numbers, for instance,in the case of the earth, we could think of more than a dozen of possible shapes!
Let's restrict ourselves to 2 (as the number of choices), clearly seeing that even the least number of choices would give us the desired result and if we consider more number of choices, we get to the result even more quickly.
As a challenge to the people, I'll prove my logic even with the least number of choices as the Qur'an, with no doubts, is the book of God.
Proceeding with 2 choices as the flukes/guesses for each of the verses which speak about science, what we find is, the probability or the mathematical chance of one making the correct choice all 800 times, i.e. making the right choice for each of the verses each and every single time is...
Using, probability = p^n with p = 1/2 and n = 800...
Probability(P) = (1/2)^800 = 1/(2)^800
The number 2^800, i.e. 2 raised to the power of 800 is a very huge number though it may not appear so, so huge that the number
1/(2)^800 is literally negligible and is considered 0 (zero/nill) in practical mathematics.
The number of choices that could be thought of,for the scientific verses of the Qur'an is not merely 2 as we have used above!!
We could've used more than 2 choices in which case we'd have arrived at the answer of 0 even more quickly.
So, even in the most probable case (using the least number of choices, i.e.2), the probability of the scientific verses being written in the noble Qur'an by (any) a human being is 0.
The Qur'an, thus, can never be the work of a human. It must have come from a divine source. The only being Who could mention such facts in the Qur'an must be the Creator Himself Who possesses All The Knowledge.
Peace
@Gunther Vincent
FAMOUS LAST WORDS, FROM ATHEISTS, BEFORE THEY
DIED
(Re-post)
1. Caesar Borgia:
"While I lived, I provided for everything but death;
now I must die, and am unprepared to die." 2. Thomas Hobbs[political philosopher]
I say again, if I had the whole world at my disposal, I
would give it to live one day. I am about to take a leap
into the dark."
3. Thomas Payne [/b]the leading atheistic writer in
American colonies: "Stay with me, for God's sake; I cannot bear to be left
alone , O Lord, help me! O God, what have I done to
suffer so much? What will become of me hereafter?
"I would give worlds if I had them, that The Age of
Reason had never been published. 0 Lord, help me!
Christ, help me! …No, don't leave; stay with me! Send even a child to stay with me; for I am on the edge of
Hell here alone.
If ever the Devil had an agent, I have been that one."
4. Sir Thomas SCOTT [Chancellor of England ]"
Until this moment I thought there was neither a God
nor a hell. Now I know and feel that there are both, and I am doomed to perdition by the just judgment of
the Almighty."
5. Voltaire famous anti-christian atheist:
"I am abandoned by God and man; I will give you half
of what I am worth if you will give me six months'
life." (He said this to Dr. Fochin, who told him it could not be done.) "Then I shall die and go to hell!" (His
nurse said: "For all the money in Europe I wouldn’t
want to see another unbeliever die! All night long he
cried for forgiveness.
6. Robert Ingersoll:
"O God, if there be a God, save my soul, if I have a soul!" (Some say it was this way:
"Oh God, if there be a God, save my soul if I have a
soul, from hell, if there be a hell!
7. David Hume, atheist philosopher famous for his
philosophy of empiricism and skepticism of religion
He cried loud on his death bed "I am in flames!" It is said his "desperation was a horrible scene".
8. Napoleon Bonaparte, the French emperor, and who,
like Adolf Hitler, brought death to millions to satisfy his
greedy, power-mad, selfish ambitions for world
conquest:
"I die before my time, and my body will be given back to the earth. Such is the fate of him who has been
called the great Napoleon. What an abyss between
my deep misery and the eternal kingdom of Christ!”
9. Sir Francis Newport[The head of an English Atheist
club to those gathered around his deathbed: ]
"You need not tell me there is no God for I know there is one, and that I am in his presence! You need not tell
me there is no hell. I feel myself already slipping.
Wretches, cease your idle talk about there being hope
for me! I know I am lost forever! Oh, that fire! Oh, the
insufferable pangs of hell! …Oh, that I could lie for a
thousand years upon the fire that is never quenched, to purchase the favor of God and be united to Him
again. But it is a fruitless wish. Millions and millions of
years will bring me no nearer the end of my torments
than one poor hour. Oh, eternity, eternity forever and
forever!, Oh, the insufferable pangs of Hell!”
10. Charles IX [/b]was the French king who urged on by his mother, gave the order for the massacre of the
French Huguenots, in which 15,000 souls were
slaughtered in Paris alone and 100,000 in other
sections of France, for no other reason than that they
loved Christ. The guilty king suffered miserably for
years after that event. He finally died, bathed in blood bursting from his veins.
To his physicians he said in his last hours:
"Asleep or awake, I see the mangled forms of the
Huguenots passing before me. They drop with blood.
They point at their open wounds. Oh! That I had
spared at least the little infants at the bosom! What blood! I know not where I am. How will all this end?
What shall I do? I am lost forever! I know it. Oh, I have
done wrong."
11. David Strauss, leading representative of German
rationalism, after spending a lifetime erasing belief in
God from the minds of others said: "My philosophy leaves me utterly forlorn! I feel like
one caught in the merciless jaws of an automatic
machine, not knowing at what time one of its great
hammers may crush me!"
12. In a Newsweek interview with Svetlana Stalin, the
daughter of Josef Stalin, she told of her father's death: "My father died a difficult and terrible death. . God
grants an easy death only to the just. . At what
seemed the very last moment he suddenly opened his
eyes and cast a glance over everyone in the room. It
was a terrible glance, insane or perhaps angry. . His
left hand was raised, as though he were pointing to something above and bringing down a curse on us all.
The gesture was full of menace. . The next moment he
was dead."
13. Anton LeVey [/b][author of the Satanic Bible and
high priest of the religion dedicated to the worship of
Satan]. Some of his famous quotes are “There is a beast in
man that needs to be exercised, not exorcised”. His
dying words were "Oh my, oh my, what have I done,
there is something very wrong…there is something
very wrong…
Beloved,compare this lasts words from atheists,with this last words,from this saint of God, Augustus
Montague Toplady (1710-1778).This servant of God,,
will ever be famous as the author of one of the most
evangelical hymns of the eighteenth century, "Rock of
Ages," which was first published in 1776.
During the final illness, Toplady was greatly supported by the consolations of the gospel.Near his last,
awaking from a sleep, he said:"Oh, what delights!
Who can fathom the joy of the third heaven? The sky is
clear, there is no cloud; come Lord Jesus, come
quickly!"
He died saying:"No mortal man can live after the glories which God has manifested to my soul."
Only fools never learn from history,and it's amazing
that even in our days, with all these facts on our
fingertips, someone with a mind can devote his life to
a delusion, and want everyone to know that there is
no God, no-wonder the bible says ,"Only fools say in their hearts, "There is no God."[Psalm 14:1].
God bless you.
An old strategy: “if you can’t convince them, confuse them”.
Wait I'm confused 😂😂
Exactly Krauss went on a random arrogant tangent filled with fallacies of all kinds since he knew he couldn't challenge Hamza and Islam's claims/evidence.
Fatima Waseem what evidence are you talking about? 😂
Zem GoldLine The evidence of the miraculous,linguistic,inimitable nature of the Quran. And the only possibilities of the Prophet Muhammad, either liar/deluded or speaking the truth. And we can deduce from his life,history,events,psychological profile,prophecies,success against all impossible odds and teachings/positive impact that he was indeed a truthful Prophet of God. And also caused the Islamic Golden age that caused the the renaissance and enlightenment period giving rise to all these advancements/technology/knowledge . And creation of Oxford university too.
@@Fatima_33 The tricks they generally pull is "what if", "might be" "could be" should be"... Man! We have got families to feed in this age of Capitalism and you are talking about the could-bes and the should-bes.
I would rather take a word of wisdom even if the challenged its divinity than a confused set of statements that never give a certain answer and are a lifelong quest finding the found.
We have got bigger and better things to do in the world.
As an atheist and a physics major Hamza was humble and admirable while Krauss acted like a 5yo
He was humble? Never saw someone humbly say so much nonsense and make so much claims arrogantly without bringing any proof.
@@surgigi1582 you don't really know what humble means do you?lol
@@surgigi1582bro what 😭 you really don't understand what this word means, do you?
krauss was fantastic
@@cunctator3401 You don't understand Sarcasm, do you? what smart dudes you Muslims are.
"Let's allow that time exists outside of the universe. Given the laws of nature, then the universe can and will spontaneously come into existence!"
That line has to be the most unscientific statement ever uttered by a practising scientist!
Yes and no. The idea of time existing 'outside of the universe' and being an idea that we might 'allow' is effectively a statement of faith, ironically, which doesn't exactly help his argument. What's more useful is the idea that the laws of our universe also imply the existence of non-laws - they have to, or the laws won't work. For example, 'light travels at 186,000 miles per second' must also also mean that 'light does not travel at 185,999 miles per second' i.e. such laws are really about what can't happen, not what can happen. In a situation that's 'pre-universe' (a slightly misleading idea since time won't exist in such a situation, but let's work with it for now) there are no laws saying what can't happen, so the spontaneous creation of a universe is perfectly allowable - and quite possibly inevitable.
@@zaxzaxx4561 exactly 💯
You see, he based his whole argument off an unproven premise , namely..." ... let's pretend that time exists outside of the universe..." And then continues to argue with passion from then on. So ridiculous, don't you think so?
@@ismailhamza5219 Like I said, it sounds like a statement of faith. I would define all statements of faith as unproven premises. He presumably has a problem conceiving of a situation in which time doesn't exist, which is a significant - but not insuperable - mental obstacle.
@@zaxzaxx4561every belief including atheism is faith
@@endlessnutella8612 Not so. Faith means the acceptance of a statement with no evidence to support it. Atheism entails a willingness to take genuine, incontrovertible evidence into account that may contradict it. Faith does not.
The comments here are very interesting, seeing how different people with different backgrounds can experience (see, hear) the exact same thing and yet interpret the same data completely differently according to their personal interests.
Kaplaars k Hamza commented on a physics book without knowing physics.
He did not even know the relationship between Pi and the circumference of a circle.
I do not think there is any grey area in this debate. Krauss insults Islam so
Islamists will defend Hamza and criticise Krauss. Predictable and it still not
make Hamza in anyway right. Anyone who says otherwise is either stupid or lying.
pinball1970 It is interesting to see how many people fail to see that the "logical" deduction method used by Hamza is in no way a reliable tool to come to a conclusion. Krauss tried to show him with examples how easy it is to come to faulty conclusions using the method of deduction.
It is odd to me to see that as soon as people have no grasp on the explanations given by a scientist it is more logical that their specific God did it.
Kaplaars k
Hamza is all words I have seen him on other debates and likes the sound of his own voice. He rarely says anything of substance. He likes words like epistemological then pats himself on the back happy in the fact that people on the whole do not know what it means.
pinball1970 The problem is that most people don't understand what he is saying. He uses meaningless sentences filled with intelligent sounding words. However since he is "defending" a religion the followers of this religion think he is actually making logical and intelligent statements even though they have no clue what he just said.
In my opinion someone who resorts to these kinds of phrases and wording is afraid that it will become clear to everyone that his claims are based on nothing.
Dr. Krauss tried to explain his position, and showed the errors of Hamza's "reasoning",by using examples while trying to steer away from jargon. I wonder which one of the two is more knowledgeable?
Kaplaars k
yes I would put my money on Krauss! We need more like him. Sam Harris is another good speaker.
Clicks on Video. Press Pause. Scroll down to comments. Grabs popcorn.
Same here
Yeah ...
I did that and got bored - then went back to the video.
Lol :) I did exactly that.
gets out bingo card
Hahaha you must be mind reader
"0+0+0 can never be 3" checkmate athiests
@@larganmansheriff265
2+2= 5 this is your point ?
So what does it equal?
@@EndOfAnAg3 rather than asking in a yutube comment section..go learn some 3rd grade maths
Zero implies nothing. Science has substantiated, incontrovertible evidence. Religion has faith in the supernatural - zero. Don't play faith chess with a knowledgeable informed, realistic, rational, critical thinker.
Heaven avoider, why did your god save Adolf 42 times? Is he a national socialist?
Krauss interrupts all the time! I am an atheist but is not polite and he doesn’t let Hamza end his argument. I was interested in listening to his explanations but Krauss doesn’t let him finish anything.
He’s simply not allowing Hamza to do what almost every single advocate of religion does, which is pontificate about a bunch of baseless concepts before pinning the opponent with an impossible question, made so by the fact that you can’t answer nonsense with sense and make sense, you can only erase it which is not the point of the debate. It’s a cheap advantage you have when your entire argument is based off of made up things that are so subjective you can alter them whenever needed to suit you. As expected, Hamza starts strong with a rehearsed sermon which he spared no punches inserting condescending puns and pointedly religious deceitfully innocuous phrases, yet falters when countered with a similar biting “tough love” presentation.
Hamza fizzles out because he has nothing to pull from but stories, so when he can’t gain momentum by playing the “friendly innocent”, he’s got nothing else to rebuttal with.
It is typical of an atheists. If I have a student I'd rather him not to raise hands during the lecture & save it up for later bc most probably his query is gonna get solved after listening to the lecture.But atheists would not let you complete your explaination for they know it's gonna start making sense.
@@Brandon-ml2zw lol how arrogant of you , regardless of arguments krauss should be able to act with respect and guess what he didn't. hamza complete dismantle everything krauss had to say if anything krauss is clearly not well verse in philosophy
@@hamzaaouad6885 Why do you think Hamza's argument for the existence of this god should be convincing?
Nobody is fooled by all of these comments by Muslims that all follow the same formula and begin with "I'm an atheist but [Muslim apologist] was correct about everything".
What's amazing about Islam is that its followers are confronting atheism properly... Islamic argument is very strong!
Thump's up Hamzah... very respectful man
Are you muslim brother
@@bigsmoke382190 percent he is if you look at the end of this name there is ALI which is a name used by Muslims
islamic argument is nonexistent
@Noah Adams I'm 0% mad, and who said anything about bible or christianity
Self praise is no praise...
until watching this video I thought I know English 😪😪😪😅😓😹😄😓😓
hamzah is dictionary itself
@@daudwani8429 Nullius in verba
Ahhahahaahah
True dude..
Just a language, Doesn't matter, Focus on the content
This debate is the reason bcz of which i started again praying.
What convinced you that Islam is true? Can you say it in your own words?
@@joerdim first of all it addresses the identity question very well, it is purpose oriented religion, it desciplines your life, it gives you a very warmth community but puts individual responsibility to only one God, it comes with rich history of Sufism and philosophy. I find it much useful than following political ideologies.
@@Islamicepistemology This has nothing to do with the question what convinced you that Islam is true. You answered why you think Islam is useful to you.
Also, religion is not necessary to discipline one's life or get a warm community. And why would anybody need individual responsibility to one god? Rich history you can also find pretty much everywhere. And why is a rich history important? Philosophical thoughts you can also dig into without following a religion.
@@joerdim I find islamic metaphysics much relatable to me than Western platonism. The modernity of west driven by materialism has exhausted me. I find islam to be the only pure monothestic religion which stands firm on philosophical ground.
@@Islamicepistemology Cool story. Would you answer my question now?
Hamza God bless you you are the real face of Islam
face of no reason and logic ..am glad to be an ex muslim
@@earth.planet8860aaah, so you can fallow your perverse desires, nothing to be proud of, may Allah give you wisdom
Six ways to earn good deeds even after death:
1. Give a copy of Qur’an to someone. Each time one reads from it, you gain.
2. Donate a wheelchair to a hospital. Each time a sick or injured person uses it, you gain.
3. Participate in the building a Masjid. Every time a person uses it to worship Allah (SWT), you gain.
4. Build a well or place a water cooler in a public place. Every time somebody drinks from it, you gain.
5. Plant a tree. whenever a person or animal sits in its shade or eats from it, you gain
6. And the easiest of all, share this message with other people.
May Allah (SWT) bless you all and grant you Jannah, inshallah
Gunther Vincent Yes. You can do all of these things when you’re alive of course. But when you die, you can not take anything with you. Therefore all you have to show for yourself is your deeds. Try to do things that have a long and positive impact on the world continuously even after you’re in the grave and awaiting judgement. Your good deeds will continue to stack even after you’re gone inshallah.
Gunther Vincent Oh sorry brother. I didn’t come here to debate. Just a friendly advice to Muslims or anyone who finds interest in the topic. May Allah grant you Hidayah and inshallah you will be led down the right path.
Ameen, Jamian In Sha Allah.
Can I get points by just jerking off XXXVIDEOS and smoking pot?
Michael Bachman... The words that comes in my mind are ... Sucker, Dumbass, Retard, Goofy, Bozo, Brainless and finally GREENPEACE...
The level of rude from Krauss is a man who’s unhinged and knows he’s lost the argument before it started.
His rudeness is the perfect example of why the faithful deem atheism as sinful. Atheism is NOT the disbelief of there being a God. Atheism is a state of DENIAL and RIDICULE, not of true disbelief.
@@serviogaming5169 please dont spread lies it's a sin dont forget
@@serviogaming5169 and yeah atheism is disbelief in god, we criticize the idea of god because it discourages people for trying to learn and because it has no evidence supporting it, and tbh Islam says alot of evil stuff and scientific illiterate stuff that's why anti theists think it's bad (anti theists are NOT all atheists)
@Ismail Ibrahim Wow. Goddamm, you muslims are REALLY smart! I love when someone can use words like that
If you listen to tsorzis opening statements he was actually quite rude but he was very subtle, it was passive aggressive with a smile. Add to that Krauss was pissed off even before this debate started because the men and women where seperated in the audience and he refused to take part unless it was changed. Krauss ruffled his feathers so you could see tsorzis true colours. Tsorzis even had to remind himself to calm down when his mask dropped.
True discussion is when both come with open hearts and minds to share and find what is truth, not to defend their opinions.
It is a complete waste of time when neither wants to learn!
Then its not called a debate its called discussion bro
according to Hamza believing in the german god "Thor" is childish but beleiving in the muslim god "Allah" is not. Racism at its finest.
@@electricearth1101well Thor is the god of thunder allah is the god of everything. It’s more rational to conclude there is one god for everything then multiple in my perspective idk about you though
Очень узкое мышление
@@endlessnutella8612 80% of the world thinks you are a liar, scammer and evil person for saying that allah is the god of everything.
I’m not Moslem per say, but some islamic scholars do have a very interesting intellectual presence about themselves that I’ve always admired.
Its smug self assurance every Muslim/ middle eastern person I've met thinks that everyone around them is a filthy dog and that only they have the right to paradise
As an ex-muslim I can tell you Islam is one of the worst religioun on the world dont trust it
Hamza sure doesn’t. He’s a sophist and really uses rhetorical arguments. So did Krauss tho, almost every time he started a new point. But Krauss was genuinely involved in the discussion here and there, especially with the comebacks.
Intellectual presence? All they offer are non sensual excuses for reasoning & fairytales from the Koran..
That's the thing with the word intellectuality everyone can perceive it differently. To me being intellectual is being objective wich Muslim scholars try to be but can't because they follow a man made religion.
I used to believe that there is no God, no Creator, etc. I was convinced of this because of all the injustice I had seen and experienced, how could a Creator create something so huge and powerful and let it run wild. I saw religion as emotional blind faith, but even then from my very basic and prejudiced knowledge of Islaam, I saw some morality in it, some guidance, which I had spent 15 years looking for elsewhere, no one, not even Muslims themselves (from my limited experience) had tried to tell me the truth, I saw everyone just chasing material wealth and comfort sometimes under the guise of religion.
I was too hurt and unhealthy to be a part of the might is right system, God knows I tried, so I set out on my journey of creating God. An Artificial Super Intelligence (ASI) that'd watch over the entire planet and establish justice. That was a huge undertaking, I had to gain knowledge from a vast array of fields.
This led me to a lot of new challenges, modeling something on human Intelligence with justice and benevolence as its driver started to open my eyes to the reality we're trapped inside. Asking questions like when do we intervene in a situation that according to our predictions is about to lead to violence? what about triggers and stimuli that lead to violence... do we work to reduce them or would that be going to far?
and there were the question of rights, I believed strongly that everyone had the right to privacy, but wasn't this for their own good, and the greater good.
this and many many other reflections led me very slowly and steadily to submitting my will to the Unseen Creator over a period of several years of sharp learning curves and intuitive realizations. Replicating speech, sight, hearing, decision making, learning, rationality, self-analysis, ... was more than enough to help me realize that this huge intelligently designed universe was not without an extremely Powerful Designer.
I was never emotional, that was actually one of the things people would criticize me about. I was seen as a detached & silent rebel. After Islaam, alhumdulillah, I went through a metamorphosis in manners, body language and knowledge. A world of knowledge opened up to me and I'm still learning.
That's an incredible story, thanks for sharing.
Masha'Allah, you sought the truth and you found it, I'm very happy for you, may Allah reward you heavily for your efforts, ameen.
@@chrischow9085 but universe also contains matter which exists after creation. such creation is unachievable by we ppl
@@affanali9966 read edgar andrew's (a physicist) book "who created God"
@@chrischow9085 God doesnt really mean a creature or something like that.
The way the universe works, the way everything sets into place, it only makes sense if a creator existed. But creator is a wide term the creator can just be something in a higher dimension, something that guides the progress of the universe.
Now what religion is an idea about the nature of that creator, maybe a God in haven, maybe odin in asgard, etc.
But there is something thats guiding the progress of the universe from its genesis and whatever that is, its God.
Now we can keep arguing about its nature all day and we will never reach anywhere.
Tbh as a physics and maths student all i wish for is to someday prove God with maths XD.
The most amazing part of the debate was that Krauss managed to drink out of an empty glass multiple times
thats what Atheism is giving him
@@nazhir4156 what religion give you?
@@YTwatcher926 a purpose
He was demonstrating water comes from nothing 🤣
Because he quenches his thrist from nothing. That is called atheism
As an Agnostic here, i can say that i enjoyed the debate. Little thrashtalk and smiles made debate better absolutely, im entertained.
Read the Quran brother
@@darwishtrade4526 I was a muslim until I read the Qur'an bro.
@@jiukam how
@@jiukamwhy? What confused you, what startled you? Let’s talk about it
"Little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God"
Francis Bacon
Lord Verulam
the opposite is the case: in-depth knowledge of science typically leads to atheism. indoctrination, brainwashing, ramming religious beliefs down childrens throats, threats of death for not believing, and religious bias makes him believe in god
Francis Bacon was a militant atheist but his atheism was not a simple dismissal of religion and religious belief. He exploited the symbols of Christianity, especially the Crucifixion and the Pope, in order to show its untenability in the modern age.
this shows that you are quote mining out of desperation
He really should have said "Little knowledge of the scriptures makes a man a believer, but in-depth study of the scriptures makes him an atheist".
@@Dexuz most atheists have barely done an in-depth study of the scriptures wdym...
Hamza is also ex-aethist , it was undoubtedly easy for him to handle.
Mashallah
Ramadan Mubarak 🙏❣️
Alsamohsin Alsamohsin really? i thought he is an arab muslim. MasyaaAllah
He's greek
@@nurhidayahharidzulzain1077 he's Greek. He said as much in the debate
@@nurhidayahharidzulzain1077 hes greek, look at his last name
Hamza got rocked.
Highlights
00:00:24 : Introduction - Timothy Yusuf Chambers
00:06:30 : Opening Remarks - Hamza Tzortzis
00:32:02 : Opening Remarks - Lawrence Krauss
00:59:33 : Rebuttal - Hamza Tzortzis
01:14:28 : Rebuttal - Lawrence Krauss
01:22:43 : Summary Discussion
01:42:07 : Question & Answer Session
02:06:00 : Closing Remarks - Lawrence Krauss
02:07:50 : Closing Remarks - Hamza Tzortzis
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Make things easy for the people, and do not make it difficult for them, and make them calm (with glad tidings) and do not repulse (them )"
Let’s add here 1:24:40 it’s very funny wAllahi and here 56:47 😂😂 LGBQ in here is so funny too
Jazakallahu khair
Thank you so much for this! :)
Samirah Samir what does he mean by lots of fish here today LOL 😂
@@ifuknewwhatiknew4893 it's the red hearing strategy thing that he discussed it's a way to manipulate and change words and stuff and he even said an example when he said it's like throwing a dead fish to a dog or sth like that idk remember the quote exactly but all i learned from the atheist dude is he came here to twist words from mr.hamza and the quran and just talk about nonsense for an hour(not to mention the whole incest thing which is so stupid and got him trapped in a box)
This is the debates we need.
You got what you wanted a debate so how come you don't want to obey god and follow the prophet Muhammad pbuh
@@sammymohamed8541cuz Ur prophet molested a 9 y.o
@@sammymohamed8541 Why not tinkerbell or the Easter bunny?
This debate is a treasure to be preserved forever.
True, Krauss did his best to get some basic education across. And I also recommend watching the short video of Hamza and some other apologist trying to confront atheists at some convention about "quran science" (lol). Man, I think I have never seen someone switching the topic as quickly as good old Hamza did when he heard that his interlocutor was an actual embryologist who knows his stuff.
according to Hamza believing in the german god "Thor" is childish but beleiving in the muslim god "Allah" is not. Racism at its finest.
@@electricearth1101 there are many proofs that destroyed and continue to destroy atheism, but most won't even debate about it. do you really think you have been born in 2000s and not in year 57381 where human are so much advance and there is no religion.... by coincidence? you didn't born as ant or bird but as human who can write in keyboard and make thoughts in his mind just to say there is no creator who I'm thankful for all blessing I have.
in 100 years it won't be necessary anymore, there is no need for any gods
@@abdalaalenzi3748Humans are not perfect because we were created by magic. It took us billions of years to evolve. We are simply the result of billions of years of evolution, so it's only natural that we would be intelligent and capable. It's called a natural process. You are just a species on a small planet orbiting a star among 100 billion stars in a galaxy among 2 trillion galaxies. What makes you think your tiny brain can comprehend the complexity of the universe? But it doesn't make sense, right? Well, guess what? THE UNIVERSE IS UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO MAKE SENSE TO YOU OR ANYONE.
2:05:24 Krauss drinking water from Empty glass
"Something from nothing". 😂
LMAFOOOOO
underrated comment 😂😂😂
@@fbbinoire201 ikr 2 likes
😂true 👍🏻
Lolll
Cheering should really not be allowed during the debates
This is how assholes prove their statements
They really turn it into sports
they remind me of a group of chimpanzees excited when they encounter a lion. I saw them on National Geography channel last week
Well it’s allowed take the message idiot
Yeah totally agreed
Lawrence is truly brave risking his life to stand up for what he believes.
That's what I was thinking of!
How
@@ummabdullah7601 He risked his life standing for truth and speaking against Islam. If it was against any other religion in the world, it wouldn't be a big deal, but against Islam ... you know what I am saying... some muslim fanatic might attack him in the name of Allah (Peace be upon him).
He's a coward he didn't follow the prophet Muhammad pbuh!
Yea brave and doesn't know that incest is bad and defended jeffery epstein at one point, bravo complimenting a degenerate like that 😂
00:28 Debate on Islam and Atheism: Which is More Reasonable?
10:18 The universe had a beginning and was created by something uncreated.
26:24 The Qur'an is considered a miracle due to its literary form beyond the scope of the Arabic language.
33:25 Islam is not a special religion and atheism is not a belief system.
47:26 Causation and the beginning of time are complex topics in physics.
55:17 Discussion on punishment for questioning God's existence and homosexuality in Islam
1:08:59 Discussion on morality and ethics from an Islamic perspective
1:16:33 Criticism of religious beliefs and the importance of science
1:31:56 Discussion on spirit, existence, and restrictions in religion
1:39:29 The universe began 14.72 billion years ago and the best explanation is that it came out of nowhere.
00:05 The debate discusses the use of empirical and deductive arguments in science.
2:02:41 Discussion on gender equality and respecting personal choices
00:28 Atheism, since it's lack of belief in ridiculous claims.
10:18 Not even a creation independent from gods has been demonstrated.
26:24 The quran is just a book with many flaws. Nothing special about that.
33:25 True.
47:26 Yes. And a god outside of time seems ridiculous. He would exist for zero seconds. That's one way to describe things that don't exist.
55:17 Infinite punishments for finite "crimes" which shouldn't be considered as crimes is extremely unjust. Fantasy Allah claims that Homosexuality is a bad thing. Turns out it is not.
1:08:59 Objective morality like Islam usually promotes it doesn't exist, it's always subjective. A muslim following some supposed god's orders isn't acting morally anyways. It's simply obedience to the rules of some dictator.
1:16:33 Even non-violent religions are bad since they teach people to believe in nonsense based on nothing. This can lead to conspiracy theories because of bad standards of evidence.
1:31:56 Whatever terms like "spirit" even mean. And there are lots of unnecessary restrictions in religion.
1:39:29 If it even "came" in the first place.
00:05 What matters is good evidence to support the premises of an argument. Muslims don't have that.
2:02:41 Gender equality doesn't exist in Islam. Another reason to never look at it again. Lots of ex-muslims would risk their lives if they would openly express their apostasy. Grave consequences in their families are the norm. Allah threatening people with his ridiculous hell is one of the worst forms of compulsion in religion. Still muslims claim that there is no compulsion.
@@joerdim please understand its all about bias. Much of the time there is no clear winner between muslims and athiests unless one of them talks over the other person. Also, many incredible things happen in peoples lives that cannot be explained without god. I dont really need to list any examples. I should also mention you should see the other side of things. You probably watch athiests bringing down religions. Watch the other side where educated muslims go and refute these claims quite well. Islam is more special than other religions in my opinion, because the prophet pbuh was illiterate and even if he had co authors its hard to be shakespeare in arabia where most people were illiterate and no one was a great writer. These are my claims and beliefs if you want to believe in athiesm then go ahead.
@@endlessnutella8612 No, it's not all about bias. It's about presenting good evidence to support your claims. Muslims apologists are horrendously bad, even worse than Christian apologists.
That's absolute nonsense. Tell me about one of these "incredible things" that cannot be explained without a god. Oh, you really do need to list an example. Lol. And how is a god even a candidate explanation as we have zero evidence for gods?
Dude, you cannot even prove that Muhammad was illiterate. And you cannot even prove that Muhammad came up with the quran. This is how bad this is.
And your claims get even worse when especially muslim apologists in contrast to you like to paint a picture that in arabia back then there was like the biggest center of poetry on earth.
Also wrong, atheism is not a belief. This is so bad...
the guy in the middle was having the time of his life
Brother Yusuf Chambers
Yeah his happiness makes me happy 😂
the physics of star 'trak' ? he doesn't even know what he's talking about.
This kind of issue is wrong on the begining, its Impossible have discussion between One religion with atheism, with seems two stuborn Doors talking
Both are arrogants because they protect themselves from no really true arguments, they wont Change their believes or learn anything with this debate
the patience of hamza left me speeachless, i would have lost it. but he kept so calm and still talked with so much respect. lord please give me a husband like him i pray for someone so respectful, patience understanding brilliant. his wife should be so proud of him. bless this man
The husband you pray for you will reject..those men you speak of would never believe in Islam
Ameen, I pray Allah SWT bless you with a husband like him, say Ameen 😄
From where r u sis??
@@NoName-zp7bg from where r u bro? 😂😂😂
amin
Islam is the best religion in the world ❤☪️
Why? Muslims cannot even make their case that their god actually exists.
Have a bacon sandwich and a glass of Merlot and you’ll soon see why it’s not.
@@martynjohnstone6022 dude thought he did something
@@szuvibes9474he is actually funny, unlike these Islamic bots 😊
@@AliZalghout-ys3xk Like you..? Definitely a bot 😊😊
What an amazing debate. Really made me rethink a lot of things. Over the years I have been trying my best to remove my prejudices and stand on the other end: to understand the people whose views oppose. May I unlearn arrogance which I am susceptible to sometimes. May I be so tolerant that I could reason with clarity. For we are here for a short time and there is so much to learn.
I hope everyone aspires to be like you in this regard
Hope you find the right message of Islam and Allah give you strength to accept Islam.
You are not what you think you are.
@@WealthyandNerdy keep on mocking
with this mindse5, in sha2a llah you will understand why and how islam is the truth.
this was in 2013??? lmao watching in 2020 during this pandemic
Me too bro, me too lol
Jesus is the only way to the father
@@emidiorrr5755 Islam is the only way to god...
@@fcbkingmessi4664 Islam is the most stupid pagan cult, totally man-made. You are brainwashed idiot.
@@George-iv1hi well we need arguments you can't say that and you don't even have knowledge
krauss calls Tzortzis rude for mentioning the U.S. but it isn't rude to point your finger at a man's face and call him ignorant during a debate??
yo tzortzis is killin it rn bro
@Ахрор Кабулов chill he said 3.14 lmaoo
@Ахрор Кабулов Oh yeah you really showed me, thanks so much! I'll listen to your words exactly.
@Shinobi gamer Lol Shinobi leave him be. Allah SWT knows best, and knows those whose heart's are sealed. We can only know Allah better, and please him in this dunya. All will be made clear in the akhira.
@Axopop is a troll.. Writing the same baseless question in every comment
As a previous atheist I used to Admire Lawerence , Sagan, and Hawkins. After reverting March 2023 I realized all those books I used to read wasn’t science because they were purely speculative they would tell you science then right after they show you the HOW they remind you their interpretation is their view on God. No connection between the two but if u say it right afterwards after people are blown with the work of the creator peoples brain will auto pair the two things together.
Carl Sagan isn't atheist he's agnostic
@@Coolmaster-kj4sr Which most probably means that he is an atheist since most theists would call themselves gnostic theists.
@@MaturingDeen Wtf is this gibberish? Is there any coherent point in this? Btw, "reverting" is a nonsense term which outs you as someone who doesn't know what he is talking about.
@@Coolmaster-kj4srboth are on same track. They don't know wtf is god
A debat for ages 🎉
Atheists: "well.... I believe that you're wrong!!"
Theists: "Its a start, at least you believe something."
Beliefs are certainly part of human thinking, in all people. Think about it.
Yusuf Estes except some people choose to believe things for good reasons, and others believe things they want to believe on nothing but faith.
@@kaiza6467
Yes, nothing but faith .. just as a non-Muslims
my brother in law is a arab, he says arabs are backwards, and need to grow up,, lots of them dont believe in religion
@@sarahbutler363
I'm from Arab as well .. Most of the arab people are Muslims, there is a bit of us following other faiths, Christians, Jewish, atheists .. Etc..
But the majority are Muslims .. Alhamdulillah.
When someone starts insulting the other, it usually means they lost already, "infinitely" lol.
@@chrischow9085 When your good friends with Jeffery Epstein who was arrested for pedophilia, you have already lost.
@@chrischow9085 poor arguement
@@chrischow9085 prove it
@@chrischow9085 you're lying or you've been lied to if you really believe that lmao. For centuries and centuries, his worst of enemies didn't even conjure up these lies, doesn't that say a lot chris😂, go ahead and do your research or believe these lies, you know what they say " ignorance is bliss"
@@chrischow9085 when you hesitate regarding Incest .. you are toasted
Wow!! This was so entertaining!!
Atheist ⚛️
Ex Muslim
No body Care mate
@@YassineBoughanmi-xf1mhwhy comment then
Huh? 😂
@@chaitanyagore1112 to give him the information
Because its sad how he build his entire personality on something nobody cares about@@chaitanyagore1112
@@botbat9645 I care. And I applaud him to that. It means he found the guts to actually investigate his religion.
A New Muslim Alhamdulillah from Atheism... The Reason was Atheism has No Set of Rules to Live Live peacefully with mental satisfaction... Alhamdulillah Allah selected Me
❤️🙏🏻
LOLL brainwashed
You're not an atheist. Never was. Don't lie.
@@globalcoupledances we all obey those things
then u never were an atheist but a moron
instead of defending his standpoint, the hatred in his heart made him come after Islam
@@chrischow9085 u have alot to learn about body language .. try reading both speakers and u'll see
@Jack Michaelson guess you're the one who's not
@H H @jack michaelson you are the biggest idiot
@Jack Michaelson just like the speaker talks about things that dont relate to the debate
@Jack Michaelson lmao bro you're handing out 'f-cking idiot!"s like oprah
Facts vs feelings - facts win every time.
You mean religion? Yes
@@szuvibes9474religion is feelings lol
Fact is religion 👍@@Suiseisleeps1
Feeling is atheist
@@Mohame441 Nice joke lad😂To say that a primitive worn out book written by some idiots is real
One was respectful and explained his points very clearly, the other was just there to throw insults.
Just because you are polite, doesn't mean you are correct.
Thank you
C'mon. Hamza was provocative. The bit where he takes and misinterprets a sentence from Krauss' book is a good demonstration. Krauss was clear in what he meant in the book, but Hazma insisted it proved his point, even though he was clearly understanding it wrong.
Both were respectfull you are just biased towards your religion.
Unimportant, the arguments put forward are the point of debate
Did hamza swallow a philosophical dictionary
He won the debate, also philosophy is big part in this kind of conversations. Its not scince vs religion, because islam support scince. Its about exist ing of dude
Hamza tore Krauss to pieces
🤷🤷😂😂😂😂
@@TheDzudas how ?
Lawrence looks a psycho, I wonder who will call him an intellectual lol, so much frustrated hehe. Once I see atheists like him I say these r people who need a religion the most
Gus Fring
what philosophy? none of the abrahamic religions were built around any metaphysics. Bunch of un proven historical claims and fantasy stories
Krauss said so much but at the same time nothing at all
Same with the other guy
@@EricMalette not even true, he gave many
@@MuhammadFurqanAdil No, he didn't. He spouted nonsense. Over and over again.
@@EricMalette Atheist nigga 😂
@@EricMalette Yes, another ignorant human who can't understand deductive reasoning
Its funny how 10 years ago when i watched this i was on hamza's side and now 10 years later im in lawrence's.
💪 Because you have a strong character.
@@joerdim i think im just concerned about knowing the truth. It does require overcoming your own biases.
@@yusufansari790 true
@@yusufansari790 so after 10 years of research you came to conclusion that universe came from Nothing?
Don't make me laugh boy
@@justsendmelocation313 how about i dont know.
00:00:24 Introduction | Timothy Yusuf Chambers
00:06:30 Opening Remarks | Hamza Tzortzis
00:32:02 Opening Remarks | Lawrence Krauss
00:59:33 Rebuttal | Hamza Tzortzis
01:14:28 Rebuttal | Lawrence Krauss
01:22:43 Summary Discussion
01:42:07 Question & Answer Session
02:06:00 Closing Remarks | Lawrence Krauss
02:07:50 Closing Remarks | Hamza Tzortzis
What's the point?
When I heard the atheist dude say there’s basically nothing wrong with incest, the guy lost the argument straight away for me 😂
He was speaking in the sense of morality. Its not inherently morally wrong but its not something that you should engage in.
chicken flavoured pineapples ... well why shouldn’t you engage in it? Because it’s wrong. It’s not allowed in any Abrahamic religion - the difference between those believing in Abrahamic religions is that they have a moral compass to abide by, whereas others simply dont
@@ismail_2967 no the reason we shouldnt engage with it is because its is harmful for the body and because morality is subjective
ironically the story of adam and eve is a story of incest, how do you think there son's and daughter's reproduced ?
@@ismail_2967 this is a common misconception almost all atheists have a moral guide, this is a big debate in the atheist community we do not know if morality is objective (because of evolution) or if morality is subjective
@@ismail_2967 as @M'Kermy pointed out, morality being inherently subjective it is not immoral yet it is not something which you should do as it has been linked to a higher rate of birth defects.
Inshallah Krauss becomes Muslim.. he would be at so much peace
IA
InshaAllah
Let him know about jinnat
Amira Kaced Ameen.
Amen
10 years and this debate still had its effect on the moral realm of religion .. God bless Hamza
too bad 10 years later you Still don't know what morals are ...
religions Do Not Have morals , they can't , religions have DECREES or dictations from a dictator ,
when your morals '' come from another subject '' , they can't be objective , or you don't understand what That word means either , objective
it means without opinion or coming from a mind , including gods
so no the bible , torah , quran ... = no morals , just decrees
you can Only Have morals , objective morals , when you're an atheist ,
who grounds his / her morality in ... get this ... the evidence OF morality , which are the patterns we see change over time ,
we give those patterns a name , the patterns ... ARE objective , no mind involved , we call THAT ... whoop-de-doo ... OBJECTIVE MORALITY ...
now , we could explain this to a 4 year old and he / she would understand this in a heartbeat ,
apparently not a lot of people are smarter THEN a 4 year old ...
and not a lot of people know they have NO morality to speak of , like you and your family , parents grand parents , children , nobody
just the atheists who understand what the word ACTAULLY MEANS , say it with me ... Objective Morality , decrees bad , objective morality good ...
billions of people across the world have no cue what 90% of the words mean we invented , don't worry about it , LEARN about it
hamza made no sense....according to islam that profile photo you put is haram..total absurdity and dictatorship
@@earth.planet8860😂 78k comments say otherwise
@@earth.planet8860 what do you mean hamza made no sense", that is a really strong claim to make, did you even watch the whole thing?
@@mohamadhamid3360 tell me what his argument was ? using big words that made no sense
Still waiting for Krauss to let Hamza finish a single point
Was he interruping Hamza's opener? If not then you just said that Hamza didn't make a coherent point in his opener. I agree.
@@joerdim How nobel of him to not interrupt someone in their opening speech 💀
He was constantly interrupting him that’s just straight up disrespectful
@@acecream1411 That's just how a debate works with an uninterrupted opener. We should appreciate Krauss jumping in when Hamza came up with some other unfounded trash.
Seems like you agree that Hamza didn't make a coherent point in his opener.
@@joerdim yeah I know I was being sarcastic genius
And no that’s not how a debate works that just shows that you are scared and insecure to net even letting your opponent finish a point 🤣
@@acecream1411 Well, if you say that Hamza couldn't make a single point and Krauss didn't interrupt his opener then Hamza failed hard in his opener. Glad you agree genius.
In an open discussion section this is no problem. And in case of Krauss he couldn't stand that Hamza kept making clueless unfounded claims and we should appreciate that he jumped in to immediately correct him.
Krauss is extremely rude and arrogant, having different beliefs doesn't mean to be rude and disrespect others.
because the belief is bad the believers are mostly ok
@@MKermy umm did you see the video? I think you should do your research first and don't believe what anyone tells you about a specific belief without researching it.
@@bo5235 ah yes I'm not doing my research I was a muslim for most of my life until i left the horrible religion took months of research before I actually left
@@MKermy "horrible" yeah ok
Well I'm going to assume the best and say that Maybe you have had contradictions between traditions and culture and the actual religion and it's rulings,maybe you didn't reaserch in a right way or you didn't ask scholars because i heard about a lot of people who act as if they've left islam and they were not even Muslims in the first place.
And if we were talking in real life I would've asked you how many rakaas is in fajr or asr but because we are talking on the internet you could easily search it.
I hope you're happy and comfortable with your life and i hope god forgives you and shows you the right path.
@@bo5235 and just as a cherry on top, 2 4 4 3 4 that's the order:) I literally prayed everyday I started fasting at 7 I was a devoted to it
No one is going to say he looks like Mahone from Prison Break
Ya Allah;;; Ya Muhammad ;;; Ya imam Ali;;; Ya Imam Mahdi (as)
He even sound so..🤣🤣
@Sabir When you say name of prophet Muhammad (SAWW) you praise Him and His family (ahlul bayt) prophet said Ali is also my ahlul bayt.
Ahlul Bayt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sahabi
Eventhough, Both are righteous but ahlul bayt is something else espiecally first caliph and imam Imam Ali (as)
Hahahahahaha Agent Mahone
I swear to Allah I thought the same. I’m like damn, they got the greatest investigator in the world against Islam lol jk
Wow, even in 2024, the classy way he debunks the atheism ideology is insane
There is no "atheism ideology", dude. This already shows that don't know what you are talking about. But why do you think his argument for his supposed god should be convincing?
Is this on a podcast? I can’t seem to find it anywhere :(
I like how Hamza calms himself by smiling.
It's a sign of embarrassment
@Jimmi K right on 😂👍
@ilma iskander insulting what? Religion? What about me getting insulted by the nonsense you call religion? What about my feelings? Why is always only religion people get offended and insulted? So just suck it up!
Space Roamer u need to read the quran n learn the islamic history first with an openmind, put aside your denial n ego first. If u can’t, it means your ears, eyes, heart n mind have been closed/blocked. No matter how much people try to explain to u, it won’t work, just like what Hamza explained in this video, he did very well.
@@maiii7733 let him question about trinity that doesnt exist if he is that smart xD
I saw this whole debate, Mr. L Krauss was less debater and more lecturer, I think he couldn't convince to even give his initial statement. I really very much impressed from Mr. Hamza God bless him for his penitents
gods blessings are nice
but the truth is more important
like with this Covid, god is not going to save us, we need scientists now and THEIR truth
that is reality
and Hamza ignoring reality is being extremely impolite and disrespectful
debates are not fights about lies, they should be about facts
Due to covid mecca closed allu lullu failed. Case is closed for stone licker islamic pagans
"Patience".
jamal Durani they came here for two diff reasons. Hamza came to win over the audience with rhetorical power and Krauss wanted an honest discussion.
@@MrKaugaban i may be low rank but not then muhmmad ( messenger of saitan).
I didn't expect Krauss would be so encouraged like this!
He is speaking very freely in a debate full of Muslims and people support Muslim believes
💀💀💀💀💀
Watching this debate again after 4 years now i realize after studying physics I realize Prof. Krauss might sound arrogant but he is not wrong about the equations. And this alone made me an ex-Muslim ❤️❤️❤️
Oh no 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Mohame441 yes brother i still love my culture but i just can’t believe in the Quranic stories.
@@Bedtimephilosophy Man, you were not a Muslim. You do not even know the verses of the Qur’an. If I asked you about something now, you could answer yes or no.
@@Mohame441 A muslim is someone who believes in some unproven to exist god called Allah and submits himself to him. It has nothing to do with knowing all kinds of quran verses.
@@joerdimthat’s like claiming, I am ex-atheist without studying and understanding the philosophies and arguments of atheism. How can you claim something is wrong without reading or understanding it. Because he made a claim that’s he is an ex-muslim and doesn’t find quranic stories convincing as a evidence of truth or reallity, surely he must know some quranic verses, thats not a illogical question to ask an ex-muslim
I am Christian, but Lawrence Krauss is such an unlikable person... I like Hamza Tzortzis way better... Krauss is soooo arrogant...
claiming your god knows best is the most arrogant claim ever
I think it's YOUR arrogance that created your hatred
do you think this alla Hamza believes in is a god?
@@worfoz" claiming your god knows best "
best ... comparing to who?
@@memememememe515 ...compared to anyone....
Gods can comfort people, gods can inspire people and gods can create religious feelings but there never was a god who gave us any knowledge we didn't have already.
Science is about knowledge, gods are about beliefs, and religious people who can not understand or accept that are most arrogant without any reason.
Not one god knows how to create an youtube account, so claiming that "god is a creator" of "god knows" is ignorance and arrogance. Krauss understands that well.
@@worfoz "Science is about knowledge"
yeah... sure!
but how science proves morals are a real?
@@memememememe515 If I punch you in the face, will you feel pain? Yes... Will you like that? No... Is it best for me to punch everyone around in the face? No because everyone will eventually hate me for creating pain to everyone and I would be rejected by other and I would understand that doing that is bad... Eventually, the people will invent a word to define a bad dehavior... this word will evolve and eventually will be: immoral.
No need any religious crap to understand that... just a fucking brain, a little of judgment and rationality.
You have none of them...
I guess I'm going back to school to repeat learning English.
@@goatfied-7362 The fact u spelled common as comment is concerning and I think you should learn yourself before criticizing others.
@@goatfied-7362 You spelled sense wrong too, please just stop, you're just insulting yourself.
@@goatfied-7362 Correcting someone means you have no knowledge?
@@xVoid42 you have to go down to IQ level 0 to argue the dude @GoatfiedNY
@@lly_09 Lol, I'm not arguing, just telling him not to say mean stuff to other people when he can't do what he's trying to correct them for. (this makes like little to no sense but u get what I mean)
Hamza in 2023 is an absolute beast....2013 was awesome but he has improved drastically.
according to Hamza believing in the german god "Thor" is childish but beleiving in the muslim god "Allah" is not. Racism at its finest.
@@electricearth1101are you retarded?
@@electricearth1101LOL 😆 learn the difference you are a grown up women plz don't talk like a kid....
Must say truly one of the greatest debates I've seen. Well organized and amazing guests. Hamza was just amazing how polite and respectful he was as a true muslim. Good argument by Pr krauss aswell although he should be more respectful but still fan of his work aswell. 👏👏
He's okay with inc3st but not with women covering their body lol
how can u be respectful with a blind hypoctate in front of u??? He worship a p3d0 who claims the sun run after the moon. STOP THIS BS
@@UsamahMohdSabri The problem is u not the Prof, he clearly explained the specific case and scientifically speaking he is right. If 2 adult and educated brothers loves each other in a way that lead to sex, they are not hurting someone else and they both want the thing, so they would be just 2 adults enjoing sex. As prof said: I'd recomend that? No. But scientifically speaking, as a species who have sex often just for fun/enjoy, there is nothing wrong with inc3st if u don't reproduce. Otherwise would be genetically dangerous, so the fact to aviod births between family have sense as safe sex between family if all partecipant agree. Strange? Oh yes, I'd never do but I repeat, 2 adults are free if they didn't hurt someone else. The Prof had the balls to treat the argument with an honest free mind. A woman covering her body because her religion imposed to her, that is non-sense, from the same god who allowed p3d0 about mohammad, he ashamengly married a poor 6 yo child. U care about Prof giving thouts about inc3st BUT u r ok with your prophet *busing an innocent. I can continue with quran contradictions and disgusting things but I'll stop here, usually musl1 are incapable of critical thinking.
@@nathanspark4876 you talk a lot without knowledge. Don't give me the yeah... as long as it not harmful... I'm okay. Shut up. Read this:
While anyone who has sex can get an STD, sexually active gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men (MSM) are at greater risk. In addition to having higher rates of syphilis, more than half of all new HIV infections occur among MSM. For reference: CDC gov
So it's harmful. Your argument crumble and you will show inconsistency.
And please show me the contradiction in Quran and i will left islam. You think i have no desire to have casual sex with stranger? If you have the contradiction in the Quran, i would. So please go ahead.
@@nathanspark4876 As for your accusation that Muhammad is a p3do. He married Aisha RA when she's ready, her father knows she's ready, she's also accept the proposal. Islamicaly it's wrong to marry or force someone to marry anyone. She's physically and mentally ready, she love her husband pbuh, there's plenty story of she jealous of her husband pbuh other wives. Indicating how much she loved him. And the whole world is doing it (marrying young). People have shorter life expectancy back then. And if Prophet Muhammad PBUH a ped0. Why would he consummate 3years after their marriage?
So again, your argument crumble. Islam is flawless,showing it is indeed from God
Hamza taught me how to calm with such a rude personality.. truly gentleman he is!
but he is most disrespectful and arrogant
not gentle at all
in the real world, people who use lies are rude, and speaking facts and truth is respectful, not the other way around
islam is the opposite of reality, and Hamza is most annoying and disrespectful, defending his beliefs as if they are facts
Bro do you meet hamza?
@H H haha?
Hamza is not a scientist but a child rapist worshiper
that's why
see?
@H H no, I do not HAVE to lie, I told you and explained that
so why do you have to lie about me?
why do YOU need lies? do you also worship that child raping pig?
@H H No |I am not
do you lie because you worship a child rapist?
Trying to prove the absolute existence of God in a laboratory using mathematics and science is a fool's errand. This is crystal clear after watching this video, and Prof. Krauss did say that himself more than once throughout the debate.
Personally, I'm a believer in God, not because I'm able to prove his existence with pure mathematics or quantum physics, but simply by looking at my life and the lives or those around me.
If there's no God then this life is pointless, and no matter how much money you make, or how much knowledge you gain, it wouldn't make any difference because one day you're gonna die and you wont take any of that with you. So to me, there must be some other purpose for our existence, a purpose I couldn't find elsewhere but in faith and the belief in God.
Some other things that make me think there must be a purpose for our lives is the fact that we "humans" are the only sapient species living on the only life-sustaining planet in this whole enormous universe. Kinda makes me wonder why? is it really just a coincidence?
Even with no god or life after death, what you do in life does matter. You don't have to keep something forever to be able to enjoy that thing while you have it.
Also, do you seriously think that you'll take your money with you after you die? What are you gonna use it for? Are you really that selfish?
***** if u leave in Islam it's consider apostasy and there is death threat or u can get killed for leaving Islam. Muslims wants there religion to spread in Western countries but they don't recognize or approved atheist, agnostic or secularist or other religion in Islamic countries what a double standard. In Egypt a guy name Karim Ashraf Mohamed al-Banna left Islam recently now he is jail for three years for leaving Islam. In Sudan a women name Meriam Yehya Ibrahim Ishag was sentence to death for apostasy for leaving Islam and in Saudi Arabia a guy name raif badawi for blogging in his websites now he is jail for 10 years and getting 1000 lashes. In Islam there is no religious freedom for none Muslims sorry folks
***** they dont lol
InsaneGadget Entertainment Ah, so Sharia was made up by the western media, right?
To claim what you claimed, you are either an ignorant fool, or a liar of the most loathsome variety.
True is truth even if it is uncomfortable and unsettling no matter how much you dislike it.
Nothing is something, Nothing is a Thing, 0 is 1 and 1 is 0, by this logic nothing will remain, no logic, no Internet, No universe
Krauss is awesome perfectly debated.
"I didn't choose to be born Greek but looking like a Pakistani" - best quote ever 🤣
Timestamp please.
@@UmarFarooq-jn7dt 1:32:59
and when he insulted his beard, he replied "Well, I'm growing my hair just like yours. 😂😂😂
Ya Allah;;; Ya Muhammad ;;; Ya imam Ali;;; Ya Imam Mahdi (as)
Where does he say that what time
My English is gooder after watching this.
"gooder"
I understood 100% what massage you want to relay so good keep going.
Let your "gooder" be "better"
Mine is goodest now😂😂😂
I think he's just kidding dumbass bashers.
Ayyy that’s intro went hard AF!!! Had me like🕺
Hamza made that prof look like an idiot.
Brother Hamza you're still young, amazing, knowledgeable and handsome person may Allah protect you from evil eye
what about the djinns? does he need protection against them too?
@@chrischow9085 you mean extremely educated unlike your stupid self
There is no evil eye
@@sbsjdahxxbbsbsbdjsjs8368 is he the one who is believing in a god that has not been proven and there is absolutely no proof that God exists. Is he the one that is uneducated or is it you who is wrongly educated. People like you have been brainwashed by everyone in your community to force you to believe that God exists. And islamic religion is by no means a peaceful religion. In nearly half the islamic countries, you are executed for being an atheist.
Leena Khaneja my guy the main most strict country which is Saudi Arabia which in fact is where Islam originated allows atheists and any other religion to be accepted equally into they society. The Quran even mentions that disbelievers in Islam should not have any conflict with believers since all we are trying to do is to invite to Islam we will not have any conflict with the disbelievers and should be minding our own business unless if we are here to promote, defend ourselves or invite someone to Islam it says in Surat al kaferoon, in fact there are more unmuslim countries that are putting unhuman laws and punishments into their law, such as North Korea. The fact that you immediately assume that we are uneducated because we have a belief is just wrong and stupid tbh.
Let’s take a moment of appreciation to hamza when he shakes hands with Krauss in the end of the video 👏🏻
Why though?
Herald Orome why didn’t he have a choice ?
@Herald Orome why doesnt he have a choice?
@@bleach--__--2493 Herald said this to Abdullah maybe.
Herald Orome now who’s the idiot for not knowing what he’s saying or knows how to answer . So try hard Heraldo ! Try hard to answer? Why he have no choice?
In today’s politics and cultural madness, these two debaters likely have a bit more in common than was evident here.
This debate turned 10 years old !
11 now lol
Who's here 2020
Every year. I love watching Krauss hand religion it’s own ass.
Telsonater I feel sorry for you...If only you knew ...
me..
@@user-sx3pc7yt3k يا ليت قومي يعلمون
July 2020
he looks like alexander mahone from prison break
Totally 😂🤓
@Perkin Warbeck omg same 😂
😂😂😂 I was also wondering who he is resembling with??
So true
Marwan Bouchakour you right lool
I'm an atheist and proud of it
Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a belief system,atheism is just common sense…
You lack logic
@@8achim936 You lack arguments.
@@joerdim ok tell me what common sense is.
@@8achim936 Rational discernment or judgment. It's irrational to believe in things without good evidence hence atheism is common sense.
@@joerdim and there is my point. God's existence is proved with logic, atheists think logic is not "good evidence". Which loops back to me original reply. You lack logic 😁
When Professor Krauss started talking, sounded like he was so upset that he just rambled on "nonsense". I was hoping to understand Atheism, but he was too busy calling Islam nonsense.
Understand atheism? There isn’t much to understand we just don’t believe in god
Bc it is nonsense.
@@yes-wx2je Exactly, its derived from christianity which everyone knows, so god knows why people still subscribe to it in this day and age.
Guys relax. Please
chris chow hay yes boy 👦 boy your covered
Quran 52.35-36 “Or were they created by nothing, or were they the creators [of themselves]? Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Rather, they are not certain.”
Actually , Krauss is "place a term here" enough to believe that something could come out of nothing...
@@nadimahmed8485 I'm criticizing him.
@v k speak in human.
@Gunther Vincent
1- Islam doesn't tell you to kill all nonbeliever's. That's BS.
2- you can't as an atheist say that it's wrong. Because you don't have a moral compass.
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Why don't you take this killing as a way to survival ? I mean killing those who oppose me means that there is more resources for me.
Jason Voorhees lol soz misread
What is the name of song at the beginning...?? Can someone tell me please..
Awesome good job both of you❤
Naa! You get hell!
this is actually more interesting and fun to watch than any movie or TV series ever.
Ikr!
It’s a phase man. You’ll get through it.
Lunavyz what
Thats why television shows are free and TH-cam costs you data 😂
Then bro you will love debates on Hamza's den .
I won't lie tho, I really like this Hamza guy.
-Fellow Atheist
Henhik : So you like idiots with childish minds infected with religious nonsense. Try to get a life based on rea;lity.
Thanks for being honest.
If there is a God out there, may He guide you to the straight path. Amen
@@Faiselmoha I appreciate that Faisel. Personally I consider myself an anti theist as in I am convinced a "the creator" cannot possibly exist, but I wish the same for you! I really do hope the best in life for you, and everybody else.
@@henrik183614
I appreciate for the comment.
These days i have been watching famous scientist Atheists, including Prof. Krauss in this debate video. As I understand, these scientists all said "We reject the exists of God, as there is no evidence", but none said "The creator (God) cannot exists or does not exist".
@@henrik183614 atheists gonna storm your comment replies btw why don't you believe in the creator
all discussions should have one single motive, simple to just be in a better place after the discussion than before.
ears just listening to to understand not to give 10 reasons why you are right because then your ears listens to give 10 reasons why you are right.
only thing to take to the future is to learn something
My favorite debate of all time even 10 years later, like when you get to the end of a movie that you really enjoyed and are sad that it ended
The clueless muslim majority audience which always cheered when Hamza opened his mouth regardless of what he said was pretty depressing though.
@@joerdimthat doesn’t mean hamza is a bad debater
@@endlessnutella8612 I never said he is. He is just unable to make his case for the existence of his supposed god which is pretty bad. Being a good debater can just mean to be a good public speaker. That doesn't necessarily mean that what you say makes any sense. And the clueless muslim majority audience didn't care.
to all human beings:
when you want to win
you don't learn.
Very interesting what you said but can you explain it a lttle better what you mean?
Yusuf Altug if you start arguing not for the validity of your viewpoint but rather just to push your viewpoint you become bias and people will call you out on that. When you become bias you will ignore opposite reason to push your reason and people will call out that flaw.
@@easy5989 the moment you come to know that were wrong just admit it. when you become this kind of person no one can overpower you because you never get disappointed. its actually being true to yourself
@@bestoddlysatisfyingshorts8729 Entire quote sounds great, the last sentence is uplifting🙏🏿
@@tyronevaldez-kruger5313 thank you sir
After 1 hour and 9 minutes Mr. Krauss said "i am only asking because i want to learn." So saying "everything you said is crap or nonsense" is called "asking" ?
lol very true
That's what they do all the time, "i dont know" "i wanna know" type of sentences
Since when atheist got morality? They are denial..that what Hamza is showing the world.
@@luqman2626 Hamza is definitley a better at debates but it doesnt mean he is correct. I would love to see him debate another atheist that can have better composure
"I never learned about Islam because it's nonsense" then suddenly "I'm asking because I want to learn"
Lol
Most of the audience was biased towards Hamza. Must have been pretty frustrating for Krauss.
He stood like a lion…!
"The universe and its myriad forces are orchestrated in a manner that renders the course of life and its evolution predetermined, culminating in an eventual conclusion of everything ." - Me
Tamil uh...
Just because you haven't discovered a thing doesn't mean that a thing doesn't exist. Humans are not supreme.
It doesn’t mean it does exist either lol
I can’t prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn’t exist, does that mean it actually exists?
Ramen, brother.
@@kaiza6467 you prove my point with your statement, "I can't prove." Just because YOU can't prove something or experience something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. You cannot began to comprehend the grand design of this universe and the creature that are in it.
Remember, science "discover" new things all the time. Doesn't mean that those things just appear or exist upon human discovery.
panda berries you’re missing my point.
It isn’t scientific at all to just assume things exist just because you can’t prove they don’t exist.
Because it’s impossible to prove a negative.
@@kaiza6467 Hamza already explained that he's not talking science. He was talking deduction and logic, abstract views of the universe that everyone can concur to without proof. 1+1=2 full stop
Ryuga Law if panda was just making a random, non-religious statement that “you can’t know everything in the universe” then sure, I think that’s true.
But if you were to use the fact that we don’t know everything as a reason to imply there IS a “grand designer”, then that logic is flawed.
Because you could come up with an infinite number of possible creator beings, like my Flying Spaghetti Monster example, presuppose it designed everything and the argument would be the same.
“You can’t know everything, therefor you can’t prove the creator being from MY religion designed the entire universe.”
That’s not how logic works.
The time to believe something is when there is sufficient reason to.
Ashadu An laillaha Ilawllah wa ashadu ana Muhammadan Rasulullah ☝🏻❤️
Did someone say Ra Ghal Zul?
Cuz I reply.... Lazarus well!
☝️
Masha Allah,,,Allah bless us brother
allah makan babi!!!
The audience is so inconsistent, when hamza makes a good point they decide to clap and cheer but when Lawrence makes a good point they stay silent
muslim bias
What are you talking about? People also clapped when Lawrence made some of his points.
look at the channel that organized the debate.
@@joerdim Do you know who Lawrence krauss is?
@@lawtrion6676 One of the guys in the video, cosmologist and atheist public speaker.
As a born Christian (currently agnostic - but I lean Abrahamic meaning I view all scriptures that claim Abrahamic origins as potentially true and from God) who often watches these sort of debates - I think its quite obvious that Krauss danced around responding to the argument made by Hamza (one can only assume because he had no valid counter to offer up outside of his opinion based off of his personal worldview and knowledge). Krauss was intentionally rude and disrespectful while claiming his intent was not to offend people only to disagree with their ideas. If that were true he would have chosen his words - which vI know he is well capable of doing - more wisely. Its not what he is saying but how he is saying it at times that is the problem. Then he takes offense when Hamza says things regarding America in a certain way - what a double standard! He got up tot he podium and 1. made almost no response to the argument that Hamza offered up 2. He then began to take sensationalized perspectives regarding beliefs of Muslims to try and back Hamza into a corner - which felt was an attempt to say "see! this is Gods creation - why would God create something this way just to call it a sin?". The problem with that is that All 3 Abrahamic scriptures have very reasonable answers to that question - does Krauss think he is the first to raise this? His ignorance of the religion coming into this debate was absolutely insulting and just showed his outrageous arrogance regarding his own worldview and knowledge. I would choose to be a part of Hamza's community over someone like Krauss any day of the week. To call himself an educator is laughable.....he doesn't want to influence discussion and critical thinking - what he actually does is first deflect by using criticism that is practically irrelevant to the topic at hand and then when all else fails completely avoid the theme of the discussion altogether - highjacking it to take it in his own direction in order to control the narrative.
You should look into islam sister as its the most preserved abrahamic religion and makes sense with only one true all knowing God with no partners unlike for e.g christianity with the whole idea of the trinity.
Perhaps it's his arrogance that's keeping him from accepting the truth. Happens to a lot of people.
Very well said! Hamza seemed more educated than Krauss. A professor shouldn't be acting this way, especially when invited to speak.
I would also humbly suggest you the TH-cam channel, The Deen Show, which has interviews with former Christians and Jews (& sometimes atheists). I personally loved it and hope the same for you.
Finally someone said it, very eloquently and elegantly put
I don't usually read long comments but this one is beautifully written, wonderful comment God bless you 👏🏿👏🏿
6:30 start of the debate
Praise to you
Ty
You're the real mvp.
HI lets begin.
@@TheyCallHimTheTops
All praise to the creator
Hamza is certainly no philosopher
its kinda funny that the only question asked by a woman was actually a statement ending with "im offended" lol