Regarding story 1: I am very glad that the Bank President had the mindset they did when the police were called and everything happened. From the situation, you know that your security is doing their due diligence, are alert, and aren't going to be fooled easily by an actual robbery. Having this happen is far better than the alternative of an actual bank robbery taking place and your security not acting correctly. It tells you your security is tight and that is exactly what you want in a bank.
First story: Despite being a terrible confusion OP did his work 100% correctly. Even if the bank president was supposed to be there if OP didn't know and he didn't have a way of identification for OP that's a thief because he could be lying.
@@metanightmare4454 Trust me when your scared you dont reason very well, the idea of going to the office when your the only one on shift is a dangerous idea thats why he waited for back up, I very much commend him for this as if that had been a robbery he could have gotten over powered in a small space or attacked from behind. As for not handing over the ID he probably thought he would be shot for trying to pull it out ,and froze up.
Gotta admire that despite how pissed the Bank President was in the moment he recognized the fact that he was doing good work. I mean I'd have been angry at him for letting me go just because I said I was the Bank President. Demanding ID and detaining them when they couldn't provide it was the right move and I'm glad he got commended for doing his job right instead of being punished because doing his job right inconvenienced someone important.
I bet the President tore the Day Shift Guard and/or whomever was supposed to notify OP that the Audit was going to be happening MULTIPLE new Waste Disposal Orifices for not notifying OP of their presence... I also suspect that was the LAST time Bank President went ANYWHERE without his ID in his pants pocket... 😄😁😆😅😂🤣
I work for a defense contractor and we have some pretty strict physical security requirements at the main office. One of which is a requirement that you wear your lanyard at all times. If you see any unescorted individual without a lanyard, you're supposed to escort them to the front desk yourself, or call security if they refuse. So one day I see this dude I've never seen before try the door to one of the switch closets, then keep moving. So I do what I'm supposed to do and I challenge him, and he says he's just looking for the supply closet. We go back and forth a bit with him claiming he forgot his badge at home, but I finally convince him that he needs to head down to the front desk and get a temporary one. When we get there, he introduces himself properly as a penetration tester that had been contracted by my employer to just see how far he could get. He managed to talk his way past the receptionist, past a couple people in the elevator, and had managed to take a few selfies of himself in various directors and VPs offices. His last stunt was to try and gain access to our actual network, but I stopped him before he managed to find a way past the locked door. Anyway I ended up getting a commendation, but I also got some flak from people who got written up for NOT challenging him. I guess me doing my job made them look bad for not doing theirs, but they couldn't accept that it was 100% their own damn fault.
I mean, if he had made it into one of the switch closets, that would probably have just made your boss angrier about the breach, so if anything, you helped the people who got written up by reducing the severity of the incident.
A female friend used to be the manger of a pizza hut. Her dad had been a cop. The door always had a wood wedge laying against the wall. If the she needed to open the door to talk to somebody, she would place the tip of the wedge just under the door. If somebody pushed on the dorr, that act drove the door up the wedge and prevented it from opening. The harder you push, the tighter the wedge gets.
*Last Story:* Older people thinking they're in charge was common when I was in IT, including being so stubborn they destroy their careers. It was really bad during the early Noughties when programs for various certifications had just started and older IT workers who didn't have them tried to butt in on jobs they were not qualified for. Literally my first job after graduating tech school we had an older Ken who didn't understand LINUX tell us we were coding things all wrong and tried to take over. So we let him, he crashes the entire company's server, and gets a lateral demotion to keep him out of the way until his retirement just two years later. He never forgave us for that.
Of course, he didn't. It was ALL your fault for letting him do what he demanded. You made him crash the server by allowing him access after demanding it! 'kids these days...' lol. Yeah not everyone is cut out for I.T. I had a boss who if he didn't understand something would ALWAYS say NO. Save the company 50K a year and provide an internet backup at the same time? Him - NO! ME-Why not.. Him looking at me like I just shot a dog - NO! ME- Good talk.
Sometimes it's more about gender. I'm a woman, and have been an office manager for about 30 years. I've had to coordinate 5 office builds and relocations. I have to deal with trades and movers who are almost exclusively male. Most realize pretty quickly that I know what I'm doing and we work together well. But there have been jobs where I had to insist that a construction foreman be replaced and others where I've had movers kicked off jobs.
When I opened my first shop I was 25. I hired 2 mechanics in their 50s. I needed their experience. One is still working for me 10 years later. The other lasted 2 weeks and was fired the day he said to me and I quote “you know if you listen to me kid you’ll make more money”. He basically wanted me to rip off customers. Also never call your boss kid they tend to hate it. The other guy who saw the whole thing said something along the line of “that kid just spanked you”. It was way more vulgar but TH-cam would probably ban me for what he really said.
An elctrician here, the only problem I had with older co-worker is that they didn't always listen. This is when we where sent on a job without clear instructions, I might come up with a solution be they didn't hear it. The worst was when I worked with my dad. Now I'm the older worker but I don't have any problem lisening to younger guys being in charge.
"I know the owner! I'm friends with the owner" Owner: do... you not recognize my face? "No, why would i?!" Officer: *points to the massive sign in front of the store* ... clearly you don't.
Story 3: Believe me, I can't think of any worse job one could have than to work at a pizza place during prime event times (e.g. football playoff season). Last year during such an event I was delivered a pizza with a topping to which I am allergic (that I had asked in my order to be left off), so I tried calling to get a fix and re-delivery, no answer. So I angrily drove the pizza down to the place myself, fully intending not only to demand a new one, but to make sure they gave me another for free. When I stepped into the tiny lobby, not only were there about 10 people waiting, but every available person was working their behinds off in the kitchen trying to get their orders out. I totally understood why they were not answering the phone, and no anger at all, nothing but sympathy once I saw that. One person came in while I waited and wanted to order, and was told there would be at least a 2 hour backup, possibly as much as 3 hours. They replaced my pizza in a half hour, and one of the other customers was happy to take my "wrong" pizza since I hadn't touched it beyond opening the box. And I left a nice tip because I really felt bad for all those employees.
Not a pizza worker myself, but when I was working at a hotel, Garth brooks was in town. I shit you not that not only was every single hotel in the city completely full, but there wasn’t a single room in any of the ten or so nearby towns either. It was insanity, and dealing with the sheer number of irate people pretty much drove me away from the business.
I was helping with a 20th story fiber pull just as extra muscle a few years back. Once we got it all the way up, I suggested pulling a few more yards just in case. My boss scoffed and said we weren't going to waste $1000 worth of cable and had them cut it. We were 5' short. I didn't say a damn word but was killing myself to not laugh... had to toss that 3000' of cable because there was no way to recover it without breaking it. Sucks to suck!
Not quite the same but my boyfriend just added an extension to his house with a new laundry room. The wiring for the dryer ran from the breaker on the old side, through the attic to the new laundry room. There was a fire one morning. Fortunately everyone was already out of the house. It turns out the electrician or the contractor (it ended up being his fault either way) spliced the cable instead of getting a longer cable which would have cost about $100. Or he could have placed a junction box on the splice, which he didn’t. And caused $100,000 in property damage. The guy and his sister, the owner were real assholes and the lawsuit coming down from the insurance company isn’t going to be too good for them!
My neighbor is retired construction worker and he told me stories of people getting fired for stunts like what the guy did with the cable not just because of not listening to younger employees who are in charge but messing up the work
Oh he was fired for not just messing up, they left out the part where he tried to take a swing at my foreman, that's why I blocked him. My nickname on the Jobsite was "nasty" (after the character from half baked) and also my ability to go from a nice guy to down right surely as a kodiak bear when angered. They kept calling me over the radio to find out what was going on and I was cussing up a storm over the radio to get my guys to do the pull right. The guy went pale when the steward came up and called me by my nickname cause he put 2+2 together because he even heard the foreman telling me to get MY crew in order. Up till that point me and my crew had done over 100 perfect pulls of varying wire sizes and cable types.
@@perryshaffer8358 : You're not indemnified if you don't do things the way you are told to, because then, you're NOT doing your job. And then, even when someone is set as authority above you, and you start thinking of yourself as the authority, and things go wrong, then the damage *was* done intentionally.
I was training someone who stopped listening to me when she found out my age. The previous night I had told her I was going to show her how to put up the olive bar. It's not hard it has its own mulit level molble shelves and every thing fits by placing 3 horizontal and one vertical per shelf. She snapped and said she knows how to do it so I let her while I deep clean the slicer I mean a monkey could do it if you could keep them from eating the food. The next morning the cheese counter guy comes up to me and asked if I put up the olive bar. I said "no new girl did she said male coworker showed her how why?" He motioned me to follow and he pulled out the shelves. New girl had stacked the containers on top of each other so the not sterile bottoms were crushing the food underneath. They were on 2 shelves insteadof the normal 7. I call able coworker over and asked if he showed new girl how to do the olive bar. He said yes and I showed him the mess and asked, "is this how you showed her?" He was aghast and said no he showed her the 3 horizontal one vertical i knew he would have he trained me. When new girl came in I called her over and asked why she stacked the containers from the olive bar. She said, "so the would fit" I explained quietly so as not to call her out infront of customers how it all had to be thrown out and that was not how she was taught. I am keeping quiet even though I want to yell at her for being a moron when she yells at me, "who are you to tell me what to do? Your just some kid stop trying to boss me around". Customers and coworkers were stareing at us now. I still quietly but can now be heard by everyone since people had stopped talking when she yelled, "I am the person I charge of training you I mean was" I would not speak to her after that and told the manager she would need to assign somone else to train new girl and what had happened. No one wanted to train her after that and she was let go for poor performance. They kept trying to get me to train someone to my standards because though I worked there less than a year I was the best employee on my end. The customers lived me because I would remember their choices and cuts I reduced shrink to almost non existence they only had to throw out deli meat and cheese on days I didn't work and I kept things hyper clean and organized. Also I trained my self on how to use the sharpener no one else knew how and last I checked in still don't know how.
I was training a kid who REFUSEd to touch anything sharp in the kitchen. They were plastic safety knives, literally a piece of plastic with a tiny box cutter inside. He would try to hand off stuff to other workers and ask them to open it for him. Like dude. There was also a girl I tried to train that just didn't really listen to me. I handed her the sandwich down the line, would point out the little assembly pictures that tell you how the sandwich is made. Then, I made the sandwich and she wrapped it and sent it up. Next one of the same sandwich I had her do it next, and pointed at what she needed one at a time, but she didn't grab anything. She just stood there staring at me. We got a lot busier and I was stuck trying to catch up on screen while she stood there doing literally nothing, like ten sandwiches in the table while I was trying to physically point out what they all needed. Still, she did nothing.
Story 3: Even if the Pizza Hut wasn't backed up, I think three minutes sounds like a reasonable wait for a phone order. Don't really see how that would mean a free pizza as compensation.
It's called entitlement, and Karens do act this way even when sober, so imagine a drunk one... though, in this case, it seems getting drunk turned her into a Karen.
It's also a reasonable amount of time to wait in a line at a store. Now when you have to spend 3 minutes going through automated phone messages just to talk to an actual person, that's kind of annoying. I've had to wait on the phone for an hour before because there were other people ahead of me on the phone. Each person has their own buisness and teason for calling so while it's annoying to have to wait that long, it's understandable. Don't make phone calls or go shopping if you don't have time to wait. Make sure you have at least an extra 2 hours before you have to do anything else.
I love how people think that being rude and loud will get them what they want. I've been in line at customer service at a place and when I get up to the counter, a person at the cashier next to me was there for a similar reason as me, but yelling at the worker. I was nice and got what the person next to me was asking for (free item on top of exchange and all I wanted was an exchange) and he was escorted out by security. I told them thank you and have a good day, or try to anyways. Peace, hugs and love to you all!
With the first story, I would imagine that no one told the security guard that the bank president would be conducting an audit because if someone was actually stealing from the bank (vs. someone who had simply goofed up with the books), they didn't want to tip off the actual thief.
The guard on the previous shift may have been told, but since he hadn't written anything in the logbook, the OP wasn't informed of it, so he couldn't know. On the other hand, the bank president should have known that security would be making their rounds, so he should have kept his ID with him in case the guard came around while he and the auditor and he were in the vault and avoided the whole situation.
@@jacklow9611 It's also possible that the bank president thought they'd be through with the audit before security got that far, or at the very least he may have assumed that all the employees knew what he looked like and so figured that as such he wouldn't need his ID (I don't really know the president of the company that I work for all that well, but I am familiar enough with him to be able to pretty much immediately recognize him if I were to run into him while at work).
@@forcewielder2000: Being scheduled for the second shift, there would have been almost zero chance of OP ever encountering the bank president. Just the fact that the bank had 24/7 security (and so many stories/floors to the building) says that it was in a larger city, and going by the usual "banker's hours" and the various shifts, the bank president would most likely have been gone from the building before the guard (OP) came on duty, so their chance of ever having interacted, or even seeing each other before, was very slim (at best) or nonexistent. Outside of HR (when he was hired), the guard on the previous shift, and the tellers closing up at the end of the day were probably the only ones he'd ever encountered before.
ive only gotten to use the "i know the owner" line once and i really enjoyed it. i was in an interview with the owner for graphic design but i couldnt do what he needed and as i was leaving some new manager started ripping into me for "showing up late to my shift" and "how i expected to advance in the company with that kind of work ethic." so after waiting for them to fuzz out i simply told them that i know the owner and chat with him frequently, technically true we had to reschedule this meeting 4 times over the course of 2 weeks , so if i really wanted to advance in the company i could probably just ask him. they looked super confused and then started to look pissed but i just opened the door to the owners office, addressed him by name and asked him to confirm we know each other. he was in the middle of trying not to laugh and struggled to tell the manager they shouldnt be treating employees like that before wishing me a good day. i asked the owner if i looked like another employee and he didnt know of anyone that looked like me so not sure what set off this manager as i left the owners office instead of walking through the front doors. i kinda wish i had more chances to pull the "i know the owner" while actually knowing them :( several family and friends of family own businesses but pretty much all of them are out of state. Q~Q i just want to troll people and make them panic for knowing their boss.
try having one of those cowboys when you're actively resuscitating a patient. they jump in with their rhythm, their own counts... bloody nightmare... especially when said cowboy is in charge of a department, not icu, but a 'department'. and starts freaking when an abnormal heart rate pops on the monitor.
Last story: I like that Union Rep. He's doing his job properly. Even if he give hints to OP about how firing the troublemaker won't cause any Union problem. He's probably also fed up with the troublemaker's arrogance happening "off the screen" 😄
Someone like that is dangerous and could end up killing a co-worker due to not following instructions and safety rules, so it's in the union's interests to get rid of them on behalf of all other members.
So many people pull the "I AM/KNOW THE OWNER" card to get their way that no one can really blame OP in the first story for this... As for why they pull that card, it's simple: they always hope to be able to use this lie to bully an employee into compliance by threatening their job.
This sounds like Little Rock Air Force Base located in Jacksonville, ARK just outside Little Rock. I worked in down town Little Rock for MM Cohen Dept. store & my husband was stationed at the AF base.
Can't speak to other services but when I was in the Marines policy and standard procedures were beaten into us as holy doctrine. Some posts there was a danger of being treated as a threat for not having I'd available or being able to properly respond to a guards challenge
@@nexyshunter7306: Thank you for your service to the country. Military personnel were treated horribly in Jacksonville & Little Rock. We lived in a rental travel trailer no AC & ticks crawling down the walls, our next door neighbor was given a speeding ticket while riding a bicycle to the base. With hubbie working at the base filling station, in addition to being a 3 stripper, & me working FT in Little Rock. Hubbie decided we needed a new vehicle so we went to the Ford dealer in LR. I sat quietly listening as the salesman reeled off the charges for tires, motor, transmission, seats, etc. Finally had enough & I said basically you're saying only the chassis comes standard & everything else is extra. Hubbie had enough & said, "we'll buy a new car when we get back to the Carolinas." we left. Ps: I wanted to be a Marine all 5' 2 3/4" & 107lbs of me, but I don't think they were accepting women back then. My Father was stationed @ Hickman Field Scofield Barracks Pearl Harbor, Mother joined the WACs (Women's Army Corp).
I got stuck working and goodwill and we had a fella come in who had the same kind of entitled attitude as the guy in the last story. Thought he was in charge, even got sent home once for yelling at me to 'shut up' during a staff meeting. He finally got fired after refusing to work one day because it was 'too hot'.
I was a shift Housekeeping Supervisor at age 22. Per the area, many of the employees under me started at age 17/18. I was given a 57 year old employee who transferred from a location in another town. Understand that she had never held any positions of authority in the company at ANY level. I had to hand out floor assignments, common area and specialty assignments. I rotated rotated these on a consistent basis so nobody got stuck full on with the harder ones, everybody was trained for all areas, and burnout was reduced. She was difficult about accepting assignments from me right from the start. She lasted about 6 weeks when she got in my face, refused to take anything but the easiest assignments, told me I didn't "Deserve" my job because I was younger and in her eyes "Hadn't earned it" like she had, and said she would let me know what tasks she would do from now on. She was only my 3rd "Fired" staff member. The others were for 3rd no call no show and drinking on the job.
The bank story reminded me of a story where the owner of a business that fixes cars was told by one of his mechanics to leave an area. It seems that the owner wore flip flops and no protective gear in a dangerous area. The owner demanded to know how dare you say that to me, to which the older man stated that, "I am here to make sure that you leave with all of your fingers and toes intact." The owner thanked him in the end.
Being an older guy myself (how did THAT happen), I freely admit I don't know everything. While in my little niche I know as much or more than just about anyone in the plant there is so much that goes on that others have much more expertise than I do. As a wise man once said, "A man has to know his limitations", and also it doesn't pay to be an arrogant jerk.
I'm a middle aged guy who works in IT. I don't have any degrees or certifications, I learned my job slowly over the last 30 years and have managed to stay somewhat useful. I work with a bunch of 20 somethings that went to college for this, they have degrees and certs. My boss is about 15 years younger than me. I have no problem with that. I'm happy to have a job, they are happy to pay me. If some young kid knows more than I, I get the hell out of their way. As I like to tell them, I'm just the monkey pushing the buttons. You wanna be in charge and call the shots, go for it. I'll follow. Never understood the mind set of "I'm older, ergo I'm in charge". An idiot can be old as well as young, and a competent leader can be as well.
Last story: it's unfortunate when an older person thinks and feels that they don't have to listen to a younger coworker who happens to be their boss. I think that when they see a younger person, they immediately think "what does this kid know?." I've seen it happen way too many times. I just sit back and watch the show.
My situation was just the reverse. My District Manager's district was closed, he took a step down and was promised his own store which was never built, and he ended up working for me. This was the man who had hired me. I talked to him candidly and asked if he thought it would be a problem, since I was 35 and he was about 50. He said no, and it was never a problem. Funnily enough, the same thing had happened to me when I joined. I was 32, and my new boss was 19. He asked if I thought we'd have a problem because he was so much younger, and I said no. And we never did.
Last story: my 20 years older coworker thought he was next in line, too. Just because he's older. When he was informed he'd only be in charge if he split it with me, he was not happy. Wish I'd been able to see his face. Must've been funny.
"I know the owner" is someone trying to gain some power in the situation. It rarely works with knowledgeable employees. And especially when the owner is right in front of you.
Mid-thirties here, but I've consistently had bosses that are younger than me all the same. (Youngest was 18 or 19 when I was 29.) I've learned one very important lesson that I'd like to share with anyone and everyone in the work force: - If someone younger than you is your supervisor/boss/superior, *IT IS HIGHLY LIKELY FOR A DAMN GOOD REASON AND THAT YES, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.* (Exceptions made for *anyone*, regardless of age, who got their position by brown-nosing their bosses, of course, but it's still a good rule of thumb.) Age and gender do not matter; what matters is how experienced they are at what they're doing. I have nothing but respect for many of the younger bosses I've had in the past.
Pizza: Clearly, the Karen in this story heard about the owner's policy to "give it away" for free whatever the complaint. She tried to take advantage of it. I hope OP told the owner about the incident and got the policy rescinded.
The last story: That "New" guy was an IDOT! My wife is part of a Union and I've heard stories about how hard it can be to Fire/get rid of someone. And this guy didn't last more than a day. Wow, Just WOW. Could've had great job security.
Probably he was so focused on getting in the store and getting his computer fixed, he didn't even notice the poster at all... Most people have lousy Situational Awareness...they effectively have tunnel vision and only see/notice what's directly in front of them and completely ignore/don't see what's above or beside them...the age of Smart Phones only makes that worse...
Literally people do not pay attention to signs. Our restroom sign is in plain view but people are so I observant they rarely if ever look at them. They don't even go to that side of the store, and this isn't exactly a Target. It's a circle K. I can totally believe it lmao.
The last story has a message for those older guys who think just because they are older means they can expect a higher status when starting out in a new company. I changed careers several times in my life. The older I was made starting a new job more difficult with the bosses becoming younger and younger, lol. I never had a problem with having a young boss. Since I never tried to use my age and experience as leverage, they always treated me with respect and we got along great. As we get older, we need to control our ego and be humble. It goes a long way in work relationships.
The pizza story reminds me of when I worked at a Subway in the 90's, at a strip mall right next to a Domino's. We had a sort of unofficial reciprocity agreement with the Domino's folks where if a pizza wasn't delivered for whatever reason, they'd bring it over to our restaurant to have. We couldn't give them subs that were rejected since the store inventoried bread, but we would give them cookies and soda for the asking. And 90% of them were high full-time so it was well received. Anyway in talking with the Domino's guys, I found out that they had what they called the Dick List. It was a list of numbers that, for one reason or another had earned a spot on the Dick List. Any time the number showed up on the caller ID, they'd just disconnect the call. The Dick List found its way onto a local BBS (sort of a precursor to the Internet), and became sort of a living document that other delivery places in town would contribute to, and honor. So basically if you got yourself on the Dick List, no one in town would deliver to you.
Cable Story: If I were OP, just as Moron was turning away to leave, I'd have told the Union Steward to make sure he gets all of Moron's Contact Details...because Corporate Legal might want to talk to him about the $100,000.00 worth of Fiber Optic Cable he destroyed... 😄😁😆😅😂🤣
It might not be a bad idea to do that just to give the moron something else to sweat about, but I doubt they could actually collect (even if he had the money), unless it could be proven that he maliciously destroyed that cable.
@@JeffDeWitt In Civil Court, Malice isn't always needed...all they really have to prove is he didn't listen to instructions despite getting screamed at multiple times during the pull AND he has Anger Control Problems...both of which are easy to prove so the Judge might find in Favour of the Company...
@@HappilyHomicidalHooligan Maybe so, but the company would likely decide it wasn't worth the trouble, especially is it's quite unlikely he has the assets to pay the judgement.
@@JeffDeWitt True, on the other hand, if the Company is sufficiently Pissed with Moron, they might go for the Judgement anyway since there is no Statute of Limitations on collecting it and then, they can Seize his Accounts and Assets he has and then Garnishee any Paychecks he gets for the rest of his life or until he pays off the Judgement... If I were the Company, that's what I'd do if only as an Object Warning to any other Moron's that might slip through HR's screening process... Just show all new hires how Moron's failure to listen to instructions earned him a lifetime of financial pain...
Actually it's my story and ends up the guy had to reimburse for the damage done i.e. pay at least 25% of the cost, he was kicked out of the program and blacklisted from refineries. He joined our program after being a scaffold builder, painters assistant, pipefitters helper, sandblaster helper, basically all the non-skilled trades and wanted to join our program since refinery electricians are both the highest paid and most respected of the refinery SKILLED trade labors.
Last story: used to just be $100 fine for throwing punches in the local. Times have changed. But it must be a good local to have a shop steward who isn't just a shop rocket. I've done those wire pulls. You have to have a good crew who works well together to do these without fucking it up.
My story and I had a good crew, for that entire build we had up till then at LEAST 100 perfect pulls till this guy showed up. This was a crew I had unofficially lead for almost a year doing multiple level underground PVC stacks with for that same MOTOR CONTROL CENTER before they had finished and moved in the motor controls.
Story #1: I bet the Bank President, after calming down a bit, chuckled and just shake his head. Though at first not a fun experience, all in all it ended harmless, and OP was indeed doing his job. Even if the audit was being conducted covertly (as to not tip off who might've taken the money), they really should inform the guard-on-duty. Quite wholesome actually.
As a tradesman the electrician story hit home so hard. Age does not equal experience. Period, full stop. I’m the superintendent at my plant and one of our new hires has 20+ years on me. He is the newest team member but he acts like a boss since “he’s been in the biz all his life” so aggravating
Not an electrician but have done a lot of electrical work. As a site foreman had a "journeyman" new hire ask me how to wire a 3 way switch. Me: Aren't you a journeyman? Him: Yeah, but I've only done commercial. Me: Um... it's the same switch. Common to black screw, travelers to gold screws. I fired him when said switch caught fire, then spent the next week opening and checking every box he'd been in.
That was my reddit story and I feel you on that. He thought since he had been in OTHER trades and had WATCHED how we had done it for years that it was no problem. He had NO CLUE at the nuances and differences taken with each wire pull including how much pressure we tied different grade wires and cables with
Same, I've been a pipefitter for almost 10 years and have worked with my fair share of stubborn old timers who think they know everything and forget nothing.
Not an electrician, but done more than a little bit of electrical work. Worked for a company as site manager/ foreman. We brought on a "journeyman" who I had to fire after only a few days when he asked me how to wire a 3way switch. It wasn't because he didn't know the basics. I fired him because the switch in question caught fire the first time I flipped it. I then had to spend the next week going back over every box he'd opened at every site he'd been to.
I am the original reddit poster, the guy had actually been working different refinery contractor trades for DECADES. Apparently the young guy he was talking to when sitting on my lunchbox told me the guy had been a scaffold builder, painters helper, pipefitters helper, welders helper, sandlblasters helper, basically all the unskilled trade positions. He wanted to be an electrician because he saw how much we got paid and how specialized our work was not realizing just how DELICATE our work was cause he was only an observer for many years and did not see the specialized things we did
Rule of thumb on a jobsite. Never mess with anyone's lunch unless you know they're cool for messing around. That's a real fast way to be the least popular guy on site.
Honestly the only time I've snapped at someone above me was when I was a cashier at 17. We got a new assistant manager and she was HORRIBLE, she caused 3 people befor me to quit and 4 after me to quit, then quit herself. What cause me to quit was the fact me and a lead had to stay longer "the store doesn't like overtime" cause the AC unit was leaking and flooded the backrooms so the store manager said to go home and not worry about the rest of the stuff. Well that stuff was just restocking the bread shelves and when I went in the next day the assistant manager berated me over bread. I quit 2 weeks later.
Not gonna lie, the fact the woman came back and apologize (assuming it was on her own accord) shows some serious moral fiber, and respect coming from a supposed karen.
When they laid out fiber cable in my apartment building the crew broke the main fiber optic line 6 times, from what I hear. The project was rolled out across the major cities of my country, but each local area hired their own crew. Our crew was so bad they reportedly had to hire another crew and fix up to 50% of the jobs, including mine. My neighbor who works in IT said they actually tied the wire in a knot to prevent it from going too far when they shot it into the tube for his installation. If you know anything about fiber optics wire, you know what happens when you tie a knot on it (spoiler, it breaks). The project apparently took them to court over how bad they were. I guess the lesson is: never hire the lowest bidder for contract work.
3 minutes to call a pizza place to order? Oh the horror, Ive waited for an hour once, but I knew it's because the place was incredibly busy, was I angry? Hell no, the places pizza is worth the wait to order and they show up in 30 minutes,
I'm a web developer and despite my 24 yo, I'm the lead dev in my company. We've got two people in apprenticeship that are around twice my age and none of them act entitled because they KNOW I've got more knowledge than them and they actually WANT to learn from me and I'm grateful, they're both wonderful people
When I was in my late 20’s, back in the ninety’s, I worked at a petrochemical factory in Houston as a supervisor of environmental technicians. Workers are allowed 2 breaks and a lunch. Morning break was at 9:30AM and workers seeking shade would gather in the “smoke” shacks, to cool down, drink some water, and take a few minutes of respite from the intense heat and hard work. I’m with one of our crews and it’s break time, so I stuck around to spend some time with them and visit a little, while taking this break. There’s a small group of workers already in the shack and they nod to acknowledge our presence. A few minutes pass and one of the workers from the other group suddenly realized that, yes, I am a woman, in what was once considered a “man’s” job (I am a pioneer of women in construction and manufacturing roles!). This gentleman asks me, loud enough for everyone to hear, “how’s this new job working out for you?”. Apparently he is assuming that I’m new at this, because he knows my crew, but not me. My lead tech, another gentleman, looks right at him and never misses a beat, with the reply, “well, I would say it’s probably working out pretty well for her, considering she’s been my supervisor for a little over 3 years, now.” Needless to say, it stunned the group for a moment! Slack jawed and wide eyes, all around! I laughed and told the group that I loved it and couldn’t imagine ever working anywhere else, now that I had a “new” job! We’re all great friends, to this day, and all of those gentleman still respect and admire the way I carried myself in a “man’s” world, even at such a young age. In that world, there’s no room for error. You will be treated with the respect you command, and demands for respect will result in a complete loss, so don’t even try it. It’s earned through hard work, fair and just treatment of others, and commitment to a standard of moral values that is ironclad. No messing around at work. The bottom line for women in these fields is that if you act like anything less than a lady, you will be treated like you are not a lady. Do with that statement what you will, it’s a natural law of human behavior and all the pc police in the world won’t change this fact.
I worked industrial electrical (until I tangled with a dumptruck). I had zero issues with women in the field, including management...until one shows up with that "I got something to prove" attitude. Women (and men) with those attitudes either get eaten alive or they learn their place PDQ. We get a new safety supervisor, a woman. She had an inflated view of herself, but she had a touch of uncertainty about her. She wanted to swing her D around, but wasn't sure about how far. We have an all hands meeting scheduled right after lunch. We all meet up at our fab area and walk as a group to the unit we were building. The unit was new construction, and everything was shut down for the meeting, so all was quiet save for other units running in the distance. No need for hearing protection. We're almost halfway to the meeting area. Safety supervisor says "put your earplugs in". Everything is quiet, and we're going to *hear* some speaking. To a man, she was ignored. Then she really ruined herself. She nearly screeches "PUT YOUR EARPLUGS IN!" The supervisor, who was already irritated with her antics, turned and set her in her place. Women are becoming more and more accepted in traditional male roles, but they will still be tested, and if found wanting, will be crushed if they aren't strong enough to hold their own.
That last story- that old guy didn't respect people, their belongings, the job, nothing. He was a total liability, there's literally no limit to the amount of trouble someone like that can cause. I would BARELY trust him to pick up trash.
I was a young electrical foreman also. I got my journeyman's electricians card at 18. I had worked as an electrician throughout high school and during summer breaks. I had all my hours documented when I graduated and took the exam. I was a foreman at age 20. It is a glorious feeling when an old man treats you like crap until they figure out you hold their livelihood in your hands. I especially like the guy that comes to you saying he has forgotten more than I will ever know. I know I still have a job.
OP the supervisor: It's difficult to get rid of a union employee but this 'older guy' had such a chip on his shoulder that he put the last nail in his own coffin... destroying expensive fiber optic wires because he refused to take directions from anyone, especially a much younger supervisor.
So, my boss is 10 years younger than me. I've had confidence issues my whole life stemming from bullying. He has helped me A LOT with building it up through the last couple years. It's truly been a blessing for me.
If it's a double-door with handles, a bike U-lock helps open the door a bit but not let them in. Always helps to have a companion. Especially for calling LEOs and possibly being armed while you appear harmless and squishy.
I once worked for a construction company. We had a multiple company project with several foremen and seniors on the 3 crews. Well there was the this one guy from the main building company suing a ladder on top of the bar table in very plain view and while I was working saw all 3 foremen walk right past him, so I assumed it was ok if I stood on the same ladder to do just 3 minutes of work near the ceiling, when this guy did 45. Long story short I got screamed about by one of the foremen who dragged my but to mine to me screamed at again, when I mentioned I had only done that because I saw his guy doing it I was straight up told "none of my guys are that stupid and I would have noticed". He looked like a dipshit because I straight up took a picture of their guy on the ladder removing liability from my company for plausible deniability, so they had to tank a several thousand dollar marble bar top. Yes I learned my lesson that day, both in fact. Don't do things you think are stupid because you saw somebody else so them, if you do take evidence first for an alibi
The last story just reminded me of how weird the opposite situation is. In my workplace, some of my people address me as "sir". Most are old enough to be my parents, and one or two are old enough to be my grandparents. It's nice that I don't have to fight with them to get things done, but it's still weird being addressed like that. Particularly by the military veterans.
My sister used to work for a Papa John's pizza years back before she became a CNA. She told me a couple juicy stories about how people acted sometimes over their pizza and some trying to get a freebie.
The last story reminded me of a story from when I was employed by a company building condo subdivisions. I was an assistant manager on site and had been away from this one particular site for a few months. I had to close out another project. When I returned, there were several new laborers including one older guy. As I was catching up on the progress of some of the contractors, I started hearing yelling and loud crashing noises outside. When I looked, I saw the laborers backing the plat stake bodied truck into the dumpster door. I scream for them to stop, because the older one had a younger kid holding the door as the truck was backed into it by another younger laborer. When I went down there to tell them if it didn't close, they'd have to unload some of what was in the way. Well, the older laborer didn't like being told how to do anything by someone over 10 years younger than him and got right in my face. He looked like he was going to swing at me and suddenly I was pulled back by hands on both shoulders. The two contractors that I had been talking to followed me down and decided to take over to clear up any confusion. They told the laborer that they were there to save his life, because if he would have swung, he would have been put in the bottom of the dumpster. He said something about telling the company's owner about them threatening him and they said "Okay. Meet us at such and such golf course Sunday at noon and we can discuss it with the owner as they all play golf." he was in the next day, or any day after that. I bought them lunch.
Never use age to gauge who's in charge. On my first day in security I had a nice long chat and smoke with some kid who was on shift with me, talking about videogames and the bands scheduled for the night. That kid turned out to be the manager of event security for my company. :)
My husband worked at lo al TV station. One of his jobs was to film TV commercials for various companies. One weekend, they are at the local bank filming and the bank president sets off the alarm. Several police cars arrive. No one was arrested.
As someone who works in security (thankfully nothing to major/high risk) the prior guard to OP in the first story should have absolutely gotten a stern talking to. If there is going to be someone working on site after hours, then it is 110% on you to tell the guard reliving you that there is going to be people on the site after hours to avoid any situations as such from happening.
1st story: Great job OP. I'm a Disabled Female Vet., Former Sgt., USAF, 1976-1982. I joined in 1975 but was on delayed enlistment. I hope that your Commanding Officer was given this info so he could give you an ATTA BOY! I was stationed at RAF Alconbury, England for almost 4 yrs. I've been Security for a few places myself. Calabasas, CA. just AFTER the Menendez Brothers were kicked out. I was a Driving Instructor in the San Fernando Valley, CA. AND I was Security at Universal Studios, CA. and I had worked in the Sheriff Sub-Station as City Walk was being built. I was Security at Wackenhut & worked at a Rail yard where they brought in brand new cars on the rails. This was in WA. State for UPRR. I was also Shuttle Bus Security & then Parking Security for my friendly neighborhood Casino, also here in WA. State. I got fired for doing my job. A certain lady would come to the Casino on Sunday's & Monday's for Asian night. This lady would get drunk & leave the Casino. My job was to report the make, model, license plate number to 5 0 (Surveillance) so they could notify the PD. Well, I kept being called into the office by my supervisor because I WAS HARASSING this woman. Lo & Behold, I found out that one of the dealers was this lady's niece. One of the INSIDE Security Officers had a crush on the dealer so I got fired for trying to protect the Casino from getting sued if this lady killed herself or others while driving drunk. THEN, after I was fired, I found out that my SUPERVISOR & a whole lot of other Security Officers were taking the LOST & FOUND from the podium out on the floor, to the Supervisors office & helping themselves to whatever they wanted. There were no surveillance cameras in the Supervisors Office. It took me 34 yrs. to finally get my VA Benefits due to MST (Military Sexual Trauma) & having been homeless on at least 3 occasions. The last time I was homeless was for 4 yrs. But, I'm now buying a Condo & have a Fiduciary who pays my bills so I will NEVER become homeless again. Thank you for your service my brother in arms and GOD BLESS.
I worked for my aunt and uncle’s self storage business for about 3 years when I was in my early thirties. When we were interviewing for a maintenance person, one man walked in and asked me what I did there because he was going to have my job soon. I had a coworker who gave out my aunt’s private cell number to an angry customer. Whenever someone claimed to know the owner, I thought, I highly doubt that and if it is an intimidation tactic, it isn’t going to work on me. It was kind of funny because they were expecting me to cave because I looked young for my age. My aunt and I laughed about things like that so many times because she would say that she didn’t know who that person was and that if they had bothered her, she would have been very irritated.
*With the last story, it kinda works with my hubby!* He’s been in roofing supplies his whole life. (His dad use to sell them and now my hubby delivers them.) While working in the warehouse, my hubby was putting a delivery together, and a new dude told him he was doing stuff wrong. The dude just started, but was a lot older, but my hubby told him “ok! If I’m doing it wrong, then _YOU_ do it, and show me how it’s done!” So, the old dude tried to do it, and *the pallet broke in half and fell over!* About a week after that, the old dude quit! 🤣 lol
Story one reminds me of the video where the security stops a guy walking back stage and asks for his pass… it was the vocalist for lamb of god and people got pissed at her and she applogizes and he’s like “NO! YOURE DOING YOUR JOB I LIKE YOU!”
Re: story 1 - bank president. I did security when young and one day on a weekend, so not business hours, a guy comes in and says he is the CEO, forgot his keys and needed to be let up. Of course, I asked if he could prove it, and of course he couldn't. He had to call his wife to bring him his ID and keys. She was laughing so hard, it wasn't funny. I figured I was in so much doo doo, but logged everything. Yup, the security company and customer rep were raking me over the coals when the fax came in with a letter of commendation from the CEO for doing such a good job.
The first story is highly improbable. First, to moonlight while in the military requires permission, which can be gotten, but often is not. But the thing that makes it ridiculous is running in with two guns. This only happens on TV or in movies. No one trained to shoot would ever do that, as it’s nearly impossible to focus on a target.
I got chills listening to the security guard because I wouldn't be surprised if that guy and my dad worked together. My father was stationed at Little Rock AFB and in the 80s, he worked the overnight shift as a security guard for a bank downtown. He even told me several stories of having to go around and punch in on different clocks so the bank knows that they were actually patrolling like they were supposed to. I remember him telling a story about a bank president almost being arrested because one of the security guards did not properly fill out their station log informing the other crews of the late night work. He would use that story to drive home the attention to detail and how something like that could have ended badly. I don't know about the one weapon for everyone to use as my dad was issued a handgun, though that could have been do to the improper care given to that one shared gun.
The last story reminds me of this girl I used to work with. My boss and I both think she had a personal issue with me that ran deep enough that she tried to use me as a scapegoat when she left. She's the same age as my father, so yeah, he "epic" exit was childish, and we are glad she's gone.
!'m 64, a couple of tech degrees, a couple of Govt issued licenses, and when still in the workforce I made sure who the "boss" was. First because everyone thinks they're TFNGs "boss", but mostly to CMA .
Older employees can be almost impossible to train. They never want to accept that they don't know everything and are terrible about learning from mistakes.
I always wonder, when people are saying they know the owner if someone lied to them and said that they were the owner of a shop never thinking that the Karen would go there. Not that it excuses the behavior but it would be amusing.
In that first story, they suspected theft so they did the audit. Well, I bet you afterwards the president and the auditor spoke and probably both agreed that there was NO WAY that guy took the money and probably was the best protection for that money that they have on payroll
My go-to food when drunk is McDonald’s fries. There’s nothing like a delicious French fry when I’m tipsy. (Don’t worry. I have friends willing to drive me. And I always pay for our food.)
I work retail management. I’ve been a manager since I was 21. I’ve had my fair share of employees under my supervision who have been old enough to be my parents, even grandparents who’ve gotten pissed that someone a fraction of their age is managing them.
First story ... wouldn't it be SOP to tell the security personnel about something like that? I mean, a trigger-happy guard might've just started shooting.
I've done some wire pulling, not as a job, but with my dad, and here's my advice on it, listen to the person in charge of the freaking pulling! They most likely know the shape of the conduit that you're pulling through, and the best way to complete the pull without damaging the cabling. It doesn't matter if the boss is younger or older, age does not equal rank/leadership, in most cases, it's knowledge and experience that gives people rank/leadership.
Thanks, it was my original post, we were doing pulls in cable tray 100 feet up in the air off the refinery units floor in the pipe rack. I was one of TWO team leads, my team was responsible for pulling the wire to designated end points (often the motors) while the second team was responsible for feeding said wire up the cable tray waterfall and into the motor control room where a third team of our most senior and experienced journeymen would do the final installation of the wires to the corresponding controls
Yeah having people assume that because they are younger means they are in charge is nothing new. And I've actually had to delay a flight before because of it. Sorry, you don't get to sit in the left seat and run this show just because you happen to be older.
I have been screwed over by pizza places(always by accident, service workers may be stressed out but they don't intentionally skip out on orders). The best thing to do is call them, preferably when they aren't super busy, and just explain what happened. If you are nice about it they will usually give you a free pizza, I think I got one for a missing topping or dipping cup. Also, if you get a free pizza, tip like it wasn't free.
Three minute wait for the phone to be answered?? That would be my husband!! He would be yelling and screaming into the phone telling them to answer!!! He does that ALL the time, he has NO patience. He’s obviously 🙄 NEVER worked on the other end of a phone, but I have so I have to keep him in check😖
@@donnarupert4926 What you ought to do is to show him first hand. Take him to any popular pizza chain store during a "peak time" such as during local team game time, so he can see for himself the employees busting their butts trying to handle a flood of orders they can't possibly keep up with. And then say, imagine yourself in their shoes for a moment.
19:53 - thing is, when you've been in work for a while, you will inevitably get into a position where you answer to a manager/supervisor/CEO who is younger than you - whether they're a new hire to fill a management vacancy or you've changed jobs. The only thing you can do about it is accept the situation like a mature, responsible adult.
The only thing I can think of is that maybe there was a concern than an employee really was stealing from the bank, and the bank president didn't want to tip off the real thief (if there was one) and he just didn't know who to trust until after the audit was over.
The whole not listening to someone toner thing is so about ego. I've worked at all levels at all ages. If you're the new guy at a company, you keep your mouth shut and whatchu what you do. You never what rank someone is in the food chain!
I used to work for a security company, and one of my gigs had me guarding a home construction site. It was in a developed neighborhood, sidewalks and all. In the middle of the night, a big, conspicuous van (not unlike my own; I had gotten it so I'd have a nice big space to lay out a sleeping bag and sack out if I was too tired to drive home after a night shift) pulled up and this guy in dark clothing gets out. I casually get out of my own van, point a flashlight at him, give him a once over so I'll know his face in the future, and let him know I'm there, etcetera. It's perfectly legal for him to park there of course. Which he lets me know, loudly, as he goes into a major Karen rant. One of his issues is that I only got out because I was bored, and I'd better get back in my van. I'm like, really? It's _warm_ in my van. I'm allowed to play _video games_ on my laptop between rounds! (Yes, I know, but I always keep one eye on my surroundings, and nothing ever did get by me, including unscheduled visits by my boss. He was impressed that he could never surprise me.) Anyway I don't _want_ to get out of my van, but now that he's there it's my _job!_ But I never get to say that, because he never shuts up again. I just stand out there and watch him, which just like him parking there _I_ have every right to do, until he gets himself so flustered he gets back in the driver's seat and roars off with a parting, 'I MAKE MORE MONEY THAN YOU DOOOOOOO!' Yeah, by nicking power tools from construction sites am I right?
Regarding story 1: I am very glad that the Bank President had the mindset they did when the police were called and everything happened. From the situation, you know that your security is doing their due diligence, are alert, and aren't going to be fooled easily by an actual robbery. Having this happen is far better than the alternative of an actual bank robbery taking place and your security not acting correctly. It tells you your security is tight and that is exactly what you want in a bank.
Yep, i just feel bad for the auditor, poor kid probably didnt know what to do
@@beccataylor1245 1970s might be a grandpa not a kid
First story: Despite being a terrible confusion OP did his work 100% correctly. Even if the bank president was supposed to be there if OP didn't know and he didn't have a way of identification for OP that's a thief because he could be lying.
But why didn't the auditor offer up his ID before? He even asked them for proof.
@@metanightmare4454 he was scsred for being pointed with a gun. When I get too emotional I tend to yell without realizing.
@@franciscojaviermendezrinco1902 I'd have peed myself & my bilingual brain might have created a new language 😅😅😅😅😅
@@metanightmare4454 Trust me when your scared you dont reason very well, the idea of going to the office when your the only one on shift is a dangerous idea thats why he waited for back up, I very much commend him for this as if that had been a robbery he could have gotten over powered in a small space or attacked from behind. As for not handing over the ID he probably thought he would be shot for trying to pull it out ,and froze up.
@@jenchristelle lol
Gotta admire that despite how pissed the Bank President was in the moment he recognized the fact that he was doing good work. I mean I'd have been angry at him for letting me go just because I said I was the Bank President. Demanding ID and detaining them when they couldn't provide it was the right move and I'm glad he got commended for doing his job right instead of being punished because doing his job right inconvenienced someone important.
I bet the President tore the Day Shift Guard and/or whomever was supposed to notify OP that the Audit was going to be happening MULTIPLE new Waste Disposal Orifices for not notifying OP of their presence...
I also suspect that was the LAST time Bank President went ANYWHERE without his ID in his pants pocket...
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I work for a defense contractor and we have some pretty strict physical security requirements at the main office. One of which is a requirement that you wear your lanyard at all times. If you see any unescorted individual without a lanyard, you're supposed to escort them to the front desk yourself, or call security if they refuse. So one day I see this dude I've never seen before try the door to one of the switch closets, then keep moving. So I do what I'm supposed to do and I challenge him, and he says he's just looking for the supply closet. We go back and forth a bit with him claiming he forgot his badge at home, but I finally convince him that he needs to head down to the front desk and get a temporary one. When we get there, he introduces himself properly as a penetration tester that had been contracted by my employer to just see how far he could get. He managed to talk his way past the receptionist, past a couple people in the elevator, and had managed to take a few selfies of himself in various directors and VPs offices. His last stunt was to try and gain access to our actual network, but I stopped him before he managed to find a way past the locked door. Anyway I ended up getting a commendation, but I also got some flak from people who got written up for NOT challenging him. I guess me doing my job made them look bad for not doing theirs, but they couldn't accept that it was 100% their own damn fault.
I mean, if he had made it into one of the switch closets, that would probably have just made your boss angrier about the breach, so if anything, you helped the people who got written up by reducing the severity of the incident.
probably annoyed that someone didn't tell security about the audit ahead of time though
I guarantee that someone checked to see if turnover included telling the night guard about the audit before the "this idiot" turned into a "good job."
A female friend used to be the manger of a pizza hut. Her dad had been a cop. The door always had a wood wedge laying against the wall. If the she needed to open the door to talk to somebody, she would place the tip of the wedge just under the door. If somebody pushed on the dorr, that act drove the door up the wedge and prevented it from opening. The harder you push, the tighter the wedge gets.
*Last Story:* Older people thinking they're in charge was common when I was in IT, including being so stubborn they destroy their careers. It was really bad during the early Noughties when programs for various certifications had just started and older IT workers who didn't have them tried to butt in on jobs they were not qualified for. Literally my first job after graduating tech school we had an older Ken who didn't understand LINUX tell us we were coding things all wrong and tried to take over. So we let him, he crashes the entire company's server, and gets a lateral demotion to keep him out of the way until his retirement just two years later. He never forgave us for that.
Of course, he didn't. It was ALL your fault for letting him do what he demanded. You made him crash the server by allowing him access after demanding it! 'kids these days...' lol. Yeah not everyone is cut out for I.T. I had a boss who if he didn't understand something would ALWAYS say NO. Save the company 50K a year and provide an internet backup at the same time? Him - NO! ME-Why not.. Him looking at me like I just shot a dog - NO! ME- Good talk.
Sometimes it's more about gender. I'm a woman, and have been an office manager for about 30 years. I've had to coordinate 5 office builds and relocations. I have to deal with trades and movers who are almost exclusively male. Most realize pretty quickly that I know what I'm doing and we work together well. But there have been jobs where I had to insist that a construction foreman be replaced and others where I've had movers kicked off jobs.
@@fairygoth-mother7341 Their fragile masculinity just couldn't stand to have a woman in charge.
When I opened my first shop I was 25. I hired 2 mechanics in their 50s. I needed their experience. One is still working for me 10 years later. The other lasted 2 weeks and was fired the day he said to me and I quote “you know if you listen to me kid you’ll make more money”. He basically wanted me to rip off customers. Also never call your boss kid they tend to hate it. The other guy who saw the whole thing said something along the line of “that kid just spanked you”. It was way more vulgar but TH-cam would probably ban me for what he really said.
An elctrician here, the only problem I had with older co-worker is that they didn't always listen. This is when we where sent on a job without clear instructions, I might come up with a solution be they didn't hear it. The worst was when I worked with my dad. Now I'm the older worker but I don't have any problem lisening to younger guys being in charge.
"I know the owner! I'm friends with the owner"
Owner: do... you not recognize my face?
"No, why would i?!"
Officer: *points to the massive sign in front of the store* ... clearly you don't.
Can we all acknowledge how weird it is that he has a sign with his face on it though? That’s the real crime here
Story 3: Believe me, I can't think of any worse job one could have than to work at a pizza place during prime event times (e.g. football playoff season). Last year during such an event I was delivered a pizza with a topping to which I am allergic (that I had asked in my order to be left off), so I tried calling to get a fix and re-delivery, no answer. So I angrily drove the pizza down to the place myself, fully intending not only to demand a new one, but to make sure they gave me another for free. When I stepped into the tiny lobby, not only were there about 10 people waiting, but every available person was working their behinds off in the kitchen trying to get their orders out. I totally understood why they were not answering the phone, and no anger at all, nothing but sympathy once I saw that. One person came in while I waited and wanted to order, and was told there would be at least a 2 hour backup, possibly as much as 3 hours. They replaced my pizza in a half hour, and one of the other customers was happy to take my "wrong" pizza since I hadn't touched it beyond opening the box. And I left a nice tip because I really felt bad for all those employees.
Not a pizza worker myself, but when I was working at a hotel, Garth brooks was in town. I shit you not that not only was every single hotel in the city completely full, but there wasn’t a single room in any of the ten or so nearby towns either. It was insanity, and dealing with the sheer number of irate people pretty much drove me away from the business.
I was helping with a 20th story fiber pull just as extra muscle a few years back. Once we got it all the way up, I suggested pulling a few more yards just in case. My boss scoffed and said we weren't going to waste $1000 worth of cable and had them cut it. We were 5' short. I didn't say a damn word but was killing myself to not laugh... had to toss that 3000' of cable because there was no way to recover it without breaking it. Sucks to suck!
I say better 5 meters to long than 2 centimeters to short. It cost more to have to redo the pull than to add some meters extra that goes to waste.
Not quite the same but my boyfriend just added an extension to his house with a new laundry room. The wiring for the dryer ran from the breaker on the old side, through the attic to the new laundry room. There was a fire one morning. Fortunately everyone was already out of the house. It turns out the electrician or the contractor (it ended up being his fault either way) spliced the cable instead of getting a longer cable which would have cost about $100. Or he could have placed a junction box on the splice, which he didn’t. And caused $100,000 in property damage. The guy and his sister, the owner were real assholes and the lawsuit coming down from the insurance company isn’t going to be too good for them!
My neighbor is retired construction worker and he told me stories of people getting fired for stunts like what the guy did with the cable not just because of not listening to younger employees who are in charge but messing up the work
Oh he was fired for not just messing up, they left out the part where he tried to take a swing at my foreman, that's why I blocked him. My nickname on the Jobsite was "nasty" (after the character from half baked) and also my ability to go from a nice guy to down right surely as a kodiak bear when angered. They kept calling me over the radio to find out what was going on and I was cussing up a storm over the radio to get my guys to do the pull right. The guy went pale when the steward came up and called me by my nickname cause he put 2+2 together because he even heard the foreman telling me to get MY crew in order. Up till that point me and my crew had done over 100 perfect pulls of varying wire sizes and cable types.
The "new" old guy was lucky he just got terminated... he could've been sued for the $100k damage he caused.
yeah i was about to say that same thing.
Actually, I think he should have been. That might teach him a valuable lesson.
I definitily would have demanded he pay for the damage he'd caused.
Not really. You're indemnified when doing your job. The company would have to prove he intended to damage the cable in order for him to be liable.
@@perryshaffer8358 : You're not indemnified if you don't do things the way you are told to, because then, you're NOT doing your job. And then, even when someone is set as authority above you, and you start thinking of yourself as the authority, and things go wrong, then the damage *was* done intentionally.
I was training someone who stopped listening to me when she found out my age. The previous night I had told her I was going to show her how to put up the olive bar. It's not hard it has its own mulit level molble shelves and every thing fits by placing 3 horizontal and one vertical per shelf. She snapped and said she knows how to do it so I let her while I deep clean the slicer I mean a monkey could do it if you could keep them from eating the food. The next morning the cheese counter guy comes up to me and asked if I put up the olive bar. I said "no new girl did she said male coworker showed her how why?" He motioned me to follow and he pulled out the shelves. New girl had stacked the containers on top of each other so the not sterile bottoms were crushing the food underneath. They were on 2 shelves insteadof the normal 7. I call able coworker over and asked if he showed new girl how to do the olive bar. He said yes and I showed him the mess and asked, "is this how you showed her?" He was aghast and said no he showed her the 3 horizontal one vertical i knew he would have he trained me. When new girl came in I called her over and asked why she stacked the containers from the olive bar. She said, "so the would fit" I explained quietly so as not to call her out infront of customers how it all had to be thrown out and that was not how she was taught. I am keeping quiet even though I want to yell at her for being a moron when she yells at me, "who are you to tell me what to do? Your just some kid stop trying to boss me around". Customers and coworkers were stareing at us now. I still quietly but can now be heard by everyone since people had stopped talking when she yelled, "I am the person I charge of training you I mean was" I would not speak to her after that and told the manager she would need to assign somone else to train new girl and what had happened. No one wanted to train her after that and she was let go for poor performance. They kept trying to get me to train someone to my standards because though I worked there less than a year I was the best employee on my end. The customers lived me because I would remember their choices and cuts I reduced shrink to almost non existence they only had to throw out deli meat and cheese on days I didn't work and I kept things hyper clean and organized. Also I trained my self on how to use the sharpener no one else knew how and last I checked in still don't know how.
I was training a kid who REFUSEd to touch anything sharp in the kitchen. They were plastic safety knives, literally a piece of plastic with a tiny box cutter inside. He would try to hand off stuff to other workers and ask them to open it for him. Like dude.
There was also a girl I tried to train that just didn't really listen to me. I handed her the sandwich down the line, would point out the little assembly pictures that tell you how the sandwich is made. Then, I made the sandwich and she wrapped it and sent it up. Next one of the same sandwich I had her do it next, and pointed at what she needed one at a time, but she didn't grab anything. She just stood there staring at me. We got a lot busier and I was stuck trying to catch up on screen while she stood there doing literally nothing, like ten sandwiches in the table while I was trying to physically point out what they all needed. Still, she did nothing.
@@frosted_glaceon5513i send those kind of peeps home. if they don't want to contribute to the team, they are just gonna be in the way.
Story 3: Even if the Pizza Hut wasn't backed up, I think three minutes sounds like a reasonable wait for a phone order. Don't really see how that would mean a free pizza as compensation.
It's called entitlement, and Karens do act this way even when sober, so imagine a drunk one... though, in this case, it seems getting drunk turned her into a Karen.
It's gotta be a 3 hour wait before I'd even consider asking for a free Pizza. lol
Always press charges. Stupid Karen deserves prison.
It's also a reasonable amount of time to wait in a line at a store. Now when you have to spend 3 minutes going through automated phone messages just to talk to an actual person, that's kind of annoying. I've had to wait on the phone for an hour before because there were other people ahead of me on the phone. Each person has their own buisness and teason for calling so while it's annoying to have to wait that long, it's understandable. Don't make phone calls or go shopping if you don't have time to wait. Make sure you have at least an extra 2 hours before you have to do anything else.
I love how people think that being rude and loud will get them what they want. I've been in line at customer service at a place and when I get up to the counter, a person at the cashier next to me was there for a similar reason as me, but yelling at the worker. I was nice and got what the person next to me was asking for (free item on top of exchange and all I wanted was an exchange) and he was escorted out by security. I told them thank you and have a good day, or try to anyways. Peace, hugs and love to you all!
There is a local restaurant- all the servers wear shirts that say- "hey, I know the owners too!" great Karen armor!
With the first story, I would imagine that no one told the security guard that the bank president would be conducting an audit because if someone was actually stealing from the bank (vs. someone who had simply goofed up with the books), they didn't want to tip off the actual thief.
They should have had id with them for this potential outcome.
The guard on the previous shift may have been told, but since he hadn't written anything in the logbook, the OP wasn't informed of it, so he couldn't know. On the other hand, the bank president should have known that security would be making their rounds, so he should have kept his ID with him in case the guard came around while he and the auditor and he were in the vault and avoided the whole situation.
@@jacklow9611 It's also possible that the bank president thought they'd be through with the audit before security got that far, or at the very least he may have assumed that all the employees knew what he looked like and so figured that as such he wouldn't need his ID (I don't really know the president of the company that I work for all that well, but I am familiar enough with him to be able to pretty much immediately recognize him if I were to run into him while at work).
@@forcewielder2000: Being scheduled for the second shift, there would have been almost zero chance of OP ever encountering the bank president. Just the fact that the bank had 24/7 security (and so many stories/floors to the building) says that it was in a larger city, and going by the usual "banker's hours" and the various shifts, the bank president would most likely have been gone from the building before the guard (OP) came on duty, so their chance of ever having interacted, or even seeing each other before, was very slim (at best) or nonexistent. Outside of HR (when he was hired), the guard on the previous shift, and the tellers closing up at the end of the day were probably the only ones he'd ever encountered before.
ive only gotten to use the "i know the owner" line once and i really enjoyed it. i was in an interview with the owner for graphic design but i couldnt do what he needed and as i was leaving some new manager started ripping into me for "showing up late to my shift" and "how i expected to advance in the company with that kind of work ethic." so after waiting for them to fuzz out i simply told them that i know the owner and chat with him frequently, technically true we had to reschedule this meeting 4 times over the course of 2 weeks , so if i really wanted to advance in the company i could probably just ask him. they looked super confused and then started to look pissed but i just opened the door to the owners office, addressed him by name and asked him to confirm we know each other. he was in the middle of trying not to laugh and struggled to tell the manager they shouldnt be treating employees like that before wishing me a good day. i asked the owner if i looked like another employee and he didnt know of anyone that looked like me so not sure what set off this manager as i left the owners office instead of walking through the front doors.
i kinda wish i had more chances to pull the "i know the owner" while actually knowing them :( several family and friends of family own businesses but pretty much all of them are out of state. Q~Q i just want to troll people and make them panic for knowing their boss.
The best part of “I do work here, Lady!” is when the “lady” in question is a super macho guy, like the last story :)
try having one of those cowboys when you're actively resuscitating a patient. they jump in with their rhythm, their own counts... bloody nightmare... especially when said cowboy is in charge of a department, not icu, but a 'department'. and starts freaking when an abnormal heart rate pops on the monitor.
Last story: I like that Union Rep. He's doing his job properly. Even if he give hints to OP about how firing the troublemaker won't cause any Union problem. He's probably also fed up with the troublemaker's arrogance happening "off the screen" 😄
Someone like that is dangerous and could end up killing a co-worker due to not following instructions and safety rules, so it's in the union's interests to get rid of them on behalf of all other members.
So many people pull the "I AM/KNOW THE OWNER" card to get their way that no one can really blame OP in the first story for this...
As for why they pull that card, it's simple: they always hope to be able to use this lie to bully an employee into compliance by threatening their job.
This sounds like Little Rock Air Force Base located in Jacksonville, ARK just outside Little Rock. I worked in down town Little Rock for MM Cohen Dept. store & my husband was stationed at the AF base.
Can't speak to other services but when I was in the Marines policy and standard procedures were beaten into us as holy doctrine. Some posts there was a danger of being treated as a threat for not having I'd available or being able to properly respond to a guards challenge
@@nexyshunter7306: Thank you for your service to the country. Military personnel were treated horribly in Jacksonville & Little Rock. We lived in a rental travel trailer no AC & ticks crawling down the walls, our next door neighbor was given a speeding ticket while riding a bicycle to the base. With hubbie working at the base filling station, in addition to being a 3 stripper, & me working FT in Little Rock. Hubbie decided we needed a new vehicle so we went to the Ford dealer in LR. I sat quietly listening as the salesman reeled off the charges for tires, motor, transmission, seats, etc. Finally had enough & I said basically you're saying only the chassis comes standard & everything else is extra. Hubbie had enough & said, "we'll buy a new car when we get back to the Carolinas." we left. Ps: I wanted to be a Marine all 5' 2 3/4" & 107lbs of me, but I don't think they were accepting women back then. My Father was stationed @ Hickman Field Scofield Barracks Pearl Harbor, Mother joined the WACs (Women's Army Corp).
That, or the I used to work here or in this industry, so I know you can do it.
@@charlottewhitlock2001 If I got a speeding ticket while riding my bicycle, I'd be so proud that I'd frame it.
I got stuck working and goodwill and we had a fella come in who had the same kind of entitled attitude as the guy in the last story. Thought he was in charge, even got sent home once for yelling at me to 'shut up' during a staff meeting. He finally got fired after refusing to work one day because it was 'too hot'.
I was a shift Housekeeping Supervisor at age 22. Per the area, many of the employees under me started at age 17/18. I was given a 57 year old employee who transferred from a location in another town. Understand that she had never held any positions of authority in the company at ANY level. I had to hand out floor assignments, common area and specialty assignments. I rotated rotated these on a consistent basis so nobody got stuck full on with the harder ones, everybody was trained for all areas, and burnout was reduced. She was difficult about accepting assignments from me right from the start. She lasted about 6 weeks when she got in my face, refused to take anything but the easiest assignments, told me I didn't "Deserve" my job because I was younger and in her eyes "Hadn't earned it" like she had, and said she would let me know what tasks she would do from now on. She was only my 3rd "Fired" staff member. The others were for 3rd no call no show and drinking on the job.
The bank story reminded me of a story where the owner of a business that fixes cars was told by one of his mechanics to leave an area. It seems that the owner wore flip flops and no protective gear in a dangerous area. The owner demanded to know how dare you say that to me, to which the older man stated that, "I am here to make sure that you leave with all of your fingers and toes intact." The owner thanked him in the end.
I remember that one 😊
Being an older guy myself (how did THAT happen), I freely admit I don't know everything. While in my little niche I know as much or more than just about anyone in the plant there is so much that goes on that others have much more expertise than I do.
As a wise man once said, "A man has to know his limitations", and also it doesn't pay to be an arrogant jerk.
A truly smart person knows they're not the smartest person in the room.
I'm a middle aged guy who works in IT. I don't have any degrees or certifications, I learned my job slowly over the last 30 years and have managed to stay somewhat useful. I work with a bunch of 20 somethings that went to college for this, they have degrees and certs. My boss is about 15 years younger than me. I have no problem with that. I'm happy to have a job, they are happy to pay me. If some young kid knows more than I, I get the hell out of their way. As I like to tell them, I'm just the monkey pushing the buttons. You wanna be in charge and call the shots, go for it. I'll follow. Never understood the mind set of "I'm older, ergo I'm in charge". An idiot can be old as well as young, and a competent leader can be as well.
Last story: it's unfortunate when an older person thinks and feels that they don't have to listen to a younger coworker who happens to be their boss. I think that when they see a younger person, they immediately think "what does this kid know?." I've seen it happen way too many times. I just sit back and watch the show.
My situation was just the reverse. My District Manager's district was closed, he took a step down and was promised his own store which was never built, and he ended up working for me. This was the man who had hired me. I talked to him candidly and asked if he thought it would be a problem, since I was 35 and he was about 50. He said no, and it was never a problem.
Funnily enough, the same thing had happened to me when I joined. I was 32, and my new boss was 19. He asked if I thought we'd have a problem because he was so much younger, and I said no. And we never did.
Last story: my 20 years older coworker thought he was next in line, too. Just because he's older.
When he was informed he'd only be in charge if he split it with me, he was not happy. Wish I'd been able to see his face. Must've been funny.
I also love when idiots try to use the old “I know the owner” BS and get called out.
"I know the owner" is someone trying to gain some power in the situation. It rarely works with knowledgeable employees. And especially when the owner is right in front of you.
My favorite is the one where they tell the Karen they won't help, since Karen knows the owner that would be her best route to solve the issue.
Mid-thirties here, but I've consistently had bosses that are younger than me all the same. (Youngest was 18 or 19 when I was 29.) I've learned one very important lesson that I'd like to share with anyone and everyone in the work force:
- If someone younger than you is your supervisor/boss/superior, *IT IS HIGHLY LIKELY FOR A DAMN GOOD REASON AND THAT YES, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.* (Exceptions made for *anyone*, regardless of age, who got their position by brown-nosing their bosses, of course, but it's still a good rule of thumb.)
Age and gender do not matter; what matters is how experienced they are at what they're doing. I have nothing but respect for many of the younger bosses I've had in the past.
Pizza: Clearly, the Karen in this story heard about the owner's policy to "give it away" for free whatever the complaint. She tried to take advantage of it. I hope OP told the owner about the incident and got the policy rescinded.
The last story: That "New" guy was an IDOT! My wife is part of a Union and I've heard stories about how hard it can be to Fire/get rid of someone. And this guy didn't last more than a day. Wow, Just WOW. Could've had great job security.
An IDOT indeed. Some might even say a total IDIOT 😏
Story 2: You'd think he would've seen that giant picture, but I guess either he forgot, or he wasn't looking. How embarrassing.
Probably he was so focused on getting in the store and getting his computer fixed, he didn't even notice the poster at all...
Most people have lousy Situational Awareness...they effectively have tunnel vision and only see/notice what's directly in front of them and completely ignore/don't see what's above or beside them...the age of Smart Phones only makes that worse...
@@HappilyHomicidalHooligan Not everyone see posters as something so important you think its bad to not look at it.
Literally people do not pay attention to signs. Our restroom sign is in plain view but people are so I observant they rarely if ever look at them. They don't even go to that side of the store, and this isn't exactly a Target. It's a circle K.
I can totally believe it lmao.
The last story has a message for those older guys who think just because they are older means they can expect a higher status when starting out in a new company. I changed careers several times in my life. The older I was made starting a new job more difficult with the bosses becoming younger and younger, lol. I never had a problem with having a young boss. Since I never tried to use my age and experience as leverage, they always treated me with respect and we got along great. As we get older, we need to control our ego and be humble. It goes a long way in work relationships.
It may have been a thing in Far Eastern countries where age begets respect, but not in the West.
The pizza story reminds me of when I worked at a Subway in the 90's, at a strip mall right next to a Domino's. We had a sort of unofficial reciprocity agreement with the Domino's folks where if a pizza wasn't delivered for whatever reason, they'd bring it over to our restaurant to have. We couldn't give them subs that were rejected since the store inventoried bread, but we would give them cookies and soda for the asking. And 90% of them were high full-time so it was well received. Anyway in talking with the Domino's guys, I found out that they had what they called the Dick List. It was a list of numbers that, for one reason or another had earned a spot on the Dick List. Any time the number showed up on the caller ID, they'd just disconnect the call. The Dick List found its way onto a local BBS (sort of a precursor to the Internet), and became sort of a living document that other delivery places in town would contribute to, and honor. So basically if you got yourself on the Dick List, no one in town would deliver to you.
That's a thing that needs to come back.
Cable Story: If I were OP, just as Moron was turning away to leave, I'd have told the Union Steward to make sure he gets all of Moron's Contact Details...because Corporate Legal might want to talk to him about the $100,000.00 worth of Fiber Optic Cable he destroyed...
😄😁😆😅😂🤣
It might not be a bad idea to do that just to give the moron something else to sweat about, but I doubt they could actually collect (even if he had the money), unless it could be proven that he maliciously destroyed that cable.
@@JeffDeWitt In Civil Court, Malice isn't always needed...all they really have to prove is he didn't listen to instructions despite getting screamed at multiple times during the pull AND he has Anger Control Problems...both of which are easy to prove so the Judge might find in Favour of the Company...
@@HappilyHomicidalHooligan Maybe so, but the company would likely decide it wasn't worth the trouble, especially is it's quite unlikely he has the assets to pay the judgement.
@@JeffDeWitt True, on the other hand, if the Company is sufficiently Pissed with Moron, they might go for the Judgement anyway since there is no Statute of Limitations on collecting it and then, they can Seize his Accounts and Assets he has and then Garnishee any Paychecks he gets for the rest of his life or until he pays off the Judgement...
If I were the Company, that's what I'd do if only as an Object Warning to any other Moron's that might slip through HR's screening process...
Just show all new hires how Moron's failure to listen to instructions earned him a lifetime of financial pain...
Actually it's my story and ends up the guy had to reimburse for the damage done i.e. pay at least 25% of the cost, he was kicked out of the program and blacklisted from refineries. He joined our program after being a scaffold builder, painters assistant, pipefitters helper, sandblaster helper, basically all the non-skilled trades and wanted to join our program since refinery electricians are both the highest paid and most respected of the refinery SKILLED trade labors.
Last story: used to just be $100 fine for throwing punches in the local. Times have changed. But it must be a good local to have a shop steward who isn't just a shop rocket.
I've done those wire pulls. You have to have a good crew who works well together to do these without fucking it up.
My story and I had a good crew, for that entire build we had up till then at LEAST 100 perfect pulls till this guy showed up. This was a crew I had unofficially lead for almost a year doing multiple level underground PVC stacks with for that same MOTOR CONTROL CENTER before they had finished and moved in the motor controls.
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Story #1: I bet the Bank President, after calming down a bit, chuckled and just shake his head. Though at first not a fun experience, all in all it ended harmless, and OP was indeed doing his job. Even if the audit was being conducted covertly (as to not tip off who might've taken the money), they really should inform the guard-on-duty. Quite wholesome actually.
As a tradesman the electrician story hit home so hard. Age does not equal experience. Period, full stop. I’m the superintendent at my plant and one of our new hires has 20+ years on me. He is the newest team member but he acts like a boss since “he’s been in the biz all his life” so aggravating
Not an electrician but have done a lot of electrical work. As a site foreman had a "journeyman" new hire ask me how to wire a 3 way switch.
Me: Aren't you a journeyman?
Him: Yeah, but I've only done commercial.
Me: Um... it's the same switch. Common to black screw, travelers to gold screws.
I fired him when said switch caught fire, then spent the next week opening and checking every box he'd been in.
@@bdemaree 🤦♂️
That was my reddit story and I feel you on that. He thought since he had been in OTHER trades and had WATCHED how we had done it for years that it was no problem. He had NO CLUE at the nuances and differences taken with each wire pull including how much pressure we tied different grade wires and cables with
"I've been calling for 3 minutes'
oh good you got through quickly
Same, I've been a pipefitter for almost 10 years and have worked with my fair share of stubborn old timers who think they know everything and forget nothing.
Not an electrician, but done more than a little bit of electrical work. Worked for a company as site manager/ foreman. We brought on a "journeyman" who I had to fire after only a few days when he asked me how to wire a 3way switch. It wasn't because he didn't know the basics. I fired him because the switch in question caught fire the first time I flipped it. I then had to spend the next week going back over every box he'd opened at every site he'd been to.
@@jetstream6389 Heard that one to.
I am the original reddit poster, the guy had actually been working different refinery contractor trades for DECADES. Apparently the young guy he was talking to when sitting on my lunchbox told me the guy had been a scaffold builder, painters helper, pipefitters helper, welders helper, sandlblasters helper, basically all the unskilled trade positions. He wanted to be an electrician because he saw how much we got paid and how specialized our work was not realizing just how DELICATE our work was cause he was only an observer for many years and did not see the specialized things we did
Rule of thumb on a jobsite. Never mess with anyone's lunch unless you know they're cool for messing around. That's a real fast way to be the least popular guy on site.
I would've defended myself by saying the logs or office had no memo for me to expect the audit from the bank.
Honestly the only time I've snapped at someone above me was when I was a cashier at 17. We got a new assistant manager and she was HORRIBLE, she caused 3 people befor me to quit and 4 after me to quit, then quit herself. What cause me to quit was the fact me and a lead had to stay longer "the store doesn't like overtime" cause the AC unit was leaking and flooded the backrooms so the store manager said to go home and not worry about the rest of the stuff. Well that stuff was just restocking the bread shelves and when I went in the next day the assistant manager berated me over bread. I quit 2 weeks later.
Not gonna lie, the fact the woman came back and apologize (assuming it was on her own accord) shows some serious moral fiber, and respect coming from a supposed karen.
Or the officers told her it was part of her release.
When they laid out fiber cable in my apartment building the crew broke the main fiber optic line 6 times, from what I hear. The project was rolled out across the major cities of my country, but each local area hired their own crew. Our crew was so bad they reportedly had to hire another crew and fix up to 50% of the jobs, including mine.
My neighbor who works in IT said they actually tied the wire in a knot to prevent it from going too far when they shot it into the tube for his installation. If you know anything about fiber optics wire, you know what happens when you tie a knot on it (spoiler, it breaks). The project apparently took them to court over how bad they were. I guess the lesson is: never hire the lowest bidder for contract work.
3 minutes to call a pizza place to order? Oh the horror, Ive waited for an hour once, but I knew it's because the place was incredibly busy, was I angry? Hell no, the places pizza is worth the wait to order and they show up in 30 minutes,
I'm a web developer and despite my 24 yo, I'm the lead dev in my company. We've got two people in apprenticeship that are around twice my age and none of them act entitled because they KNOW I've got more knowledge than them and they actually WANT to learn from me and I'm grateful, they're both wonderful people
When I was in my late 20’s, back in the ninety’s, I worked at a petrochemical factory in Houston as a supervisor of environmental technicians. Workers are allowed 2 breaks and a lunch. Morning break was at 9:30AM and workers seeking shade would gather in the “smoke” shacks, to cool down, drink some water, and take a few minutes of respite from the intense heat and hard work. I’m with one of our crews and it’s break time, so I stuck around to spend some time with them and visit a little, while taking this break. There’s a small group of workers already in the shack and they nod to acknowledge our presence. A few minutes pass and one of the workers from the other group suddenly realized that, yes, I am a woman, in what was once considered a “man’s” job (I am a pioneer of women in construction and manufacturing roles!). This gentleman asks me, loud enough for everyone to hear, “how’s this new job working out for you?”. Apparently he is assuming that I’m new at this, because he knows my crew, but not me. My lead tech, another gentleman, looks right at him and never misses a beat, with the reply, “well, I would say it’s probably working out pretty well for her, considering she’s been my supervisor for a little over 3 years, now.” Needless to say, it stunned the group for a moment! Slack jawed and wide eyes, all around! I laughed and told the group that I loved it and couldn’t imagine ever working anywhere else, now that I had a “new” job! We’re all great friends, to this day, and all of those gentleman still respect and admire the way I carried myself in a “man’s” world, even at such a young age. In that world, there’s no room for error. You will be treated with the respect you command, and demands for respect will result in a complete loss, so don’t even try it. It’s earned through hard work, fair and just treatment of others, and commitment to a standard of moral values that is ironclad. No messing around at work. The bottom line for women in these fields is that if you act like anything less than a lady, you will be treated like you are not a lady. Do with that statement what you will, it’s a natural law of human behavior and all the pc police in the world won’t change this fact.
I worked industrial electrical (until I tangled with a dumptruck). I had zero issues with women in the field, including management...until one shows up with that "I got something to prove" attitude. Women (and men) with those attitudes either get eaten alive or they learn their place PDQ. We get a new safety supervisor, a woman. She had an inflated view of herself, but she had a touch of uncertainty about her. She wanted to swing her D around, but wasn't sure about how far. We have an all hands meeting scheduled right after lunch. We all meet up at our fab area and walk as a group to the unit we were building. The unit was new construction, and everything was shut down for the meeting, so all was quiet save for other units running in the distance. No need for hearing protection. We're almost halfway to the meeting area. Safety supervisor says "put your earplugs in". Everything is quiet, and we're going to *hear* some speaking. To a man, she was ignored. Then she really ruined herself. She nearly screeches "PUT YOUR EARPLUGS IN!" The supervisor, who was already irritated with her antics, turned and set her in her place. Women are becoming more and more accepted in traditional male roles, but they will still be tested, and if found wanting, will be crushed if they aren't strong enough to hold their own.
That last story- that old guy didn't respect people, their belongings, the job, nothing. He was a total liability, there's literally no limit to the amount of trouble someone like that can cause. I would BARELY trust him to pick up trash.
Second story: That idiot... He thinks he can flex against the owner and deny OP is the owner until he gets what he wants.
I was a young electrical foreman also. I got my journeyman's electricians card at 18. I had worked as an electrician throughout high school and during summer breaks. I had all my hours documented when I graduated and took the exam. I was a foreman at age 20. It is a glorious feeling when an old man treats you like crap until they figure out you hold their livelihood in your hands. I especially like the guy that comes to you saying he has forgotten more than I will ever know. I know I still have a job.
"He's your boss old man" 🤣
OP the supervisor:
It's difficult to get rid of a union employee but this 'older guy' had such a chip on his shoulder that he put the last nail in his own coffin... destroying expensive fiber optic wires because he refused to take directions from anyone, especially a much younger supervisor.
So, my boss is 10 years younger than me. I've had confidence issues my whole life stemming from bullying. He has helped me A LOT with building it up through the last couple years. It's truly been a blessing for me.
If it's a double-door with handles, a bike U-lock helps open the door a bit but not let them in. Always helps to have a companion. Especially for calling LEOs and possibly being armed while you appear harmless and squishy.
My uncle is a licensed electrician and I've worked with him before. I know exactly how pricy it can be even for a small screw up.
I once worked for a construction company. We had a multiple company project with several foremen and seniors on the 3 crews. Well there was the this one guy from the main building company suing a ladder on top of the bar table in very plain view and while I was working saw all 3 foremen walk right past him, so I assumed it was ok if I stood on the same ladder to do just 3 minutes of work near the ceiling, when this guy did 45.
Long story short I got screamed about by one of the foremen who dragged my but to mine to me screamed at again, when I mentioned I had only done that because I saw his guy doing it I was straight up told "none of my guys are that stupid and I would have noticed". He looked like a dipshit because I straight up took a picture of their guy on the ladder removing liability from my company for plausible deniability, so they had to tank a several thousand dollar marble bar top.
Yes I learned my lesson that day, both in fact. Don't do things you think are stupid because you saw somebody else so them, if you do take evidence first for an alibi
The last story just reminded me of how weird the opposite situation is. In my workplace, some of my people address me as "sir". Most are old enough to be my parents, and one or two are old enough to be my grandparents.
It's nice that I don't have to fight with them to get things done, but it's still weird being addressed like that. Particularly by the military veterans.
glad to see more r/idoworkhere finally
My sister used to work for a Papa John's pizza years back before she became a CNA. She told me a couple juicy stories about how people acted sometimes over their pizza and some trying to get a freebie.
The last story reminded me of a story from when I was employed by a company building condo subdivisions. I was an assistant manager on site and had been away from this one particular site for a few months. I had to close out another project. When I returned, there were several new laborers including one older guy. As I was catching up on the progress of some of the contractors, I started hearing yelling and loud crashing noises outside. When I looked, I saw the laborers backing the plat stake bodied truck into the dumpster door. I scream for them to stop, because the older one had a younger kid holding the door as the truck was backed into it by another younger laborer. When I went down there to tell them if it didn't close, they'd have to unload some of what was in the way. Well, the older laborer didn't like being told how to do anything by someone over 10 years younger than him and got right in my face. He looked like he was going to swing at me and suddenly I was pulled back by hands on both shoulders. The two contractors that I had been talking to followed me down and decided to take over to clear up any confusion. They told the laborer that they were there to save his life, because if he would have swung, he would have been put in the bottom of the dumpster. He said something about telling the company's owner about them threatening him and they said "Okay. Meet us at such and such golf course Sunday at noon and we can discuss it with the owner as they all play golf." he was in the next day, or any day after that. I bought them lunch.
I love the I don't work here stories!!!
Never use age to gauge who's in charge. On my first day in security I had a nice long chat and smoke with some kid who was on shift with me, talking about videogames and the bands scheduled for the night. That kid turned out to be the manager of event security for my company. :)
My husband worked at lo al TV station. One of his jobs was to film TV commercials for various companies. One weekend, they are at the local bank filming and the bank president sets off the alarm. Several police cars arrive. No one was arrested.
As someone who works in security (thankfully nothing to major/high risk) the prior guard to OP in the first story should have absolutely gotten a stern talking to. If there is going to be someone working on site after hours, then it is 110% on you to tell the guard reliving you that there is going to be people on the site after hours to avoid any situations as such from happening.
1st story: Great job OP. I'm a Disabled Female Vet., Former Sgt., USAF, 1976-1982. I joined in 1975 but was on delayed enlistment. I hope that your Commanding Officer was given this info so he could give you an ATTA BOY! I was stationed at RAF Alconbury, England for almost 4 yrs. I've been Security for a few places myself. Calabasas, CA. just AFTER the Menendez Brothers were kicked out. I was a Driving Instructor in the San Fernando Valley, CA. AND I was Security at Universal Studios, CA. and I had worked in the Sheriff Sub-Station as City Walk was being built. I was Security at Wackenhut & worked at a Rail yard where they brought in brand new cars on the rails. This was in WA. State for UPRR. I was also Shuttle Bus Security & then Parking Security for my friendly neighborhood Casino, also here in WA. State. I got fired for doing my job. A certain lady would come to the Casino on Sunday's & Monday's for Asian night. This lady would get drunk & leave the Casino. My job was to report the make, model, license plate number to 5 0 (Surveillance) so they could notify the PD. Well, I kept being called into the office by my supervisor because I WAS HARASSING this woman. Lo & Behold, I found out that one of the dealers was this lady's niece. One of the INSIDE Security Officers had a crush on the dealer so I got fired for trying to protect the Casino from getting sued if this lady killed herself or others while driving drunk. THEN, after I was fired, I found out that my SUPERVISOR & a whole lot of other Security Officers were taking the LOST & FOUND from the podium out on the floor, to the Supervisors office & helping themselves to whatever they wanted. There were no surveillance cameras in the Supervisors Office. It took me 34 yrs. to finally get my VA Benefits due to MST (Military Sexual Trauma) & having been homeless on at least 3 occasions. The last time I was homeless was for 4 yrs. But, I'm now buying a Condo & have a Fiduciary who pays my bills so I will NEVER become homeless again. Thank you for your service my brother in arms and GOD BLESS.
I worked for my aunt and uncle’s self storage business for about 3 years when I was in my early thirties. When we were interviewing for a maintenance person, one man walked in and asked me what I did there because he was going to have my job soon. I had a coworker who gave out my aunt’s private cell number to an angry customer. Whenever someone claimed to know the owner, I thought, I highly doubt that and if it is an intimidation tactic, it isn’t going to work on me. It was kind of funny because they were expecting me to cave because I looked young for my age. My aunt and I laughed about things like that so many times because she would say that she didn’t know who that person was and that if they had bothered her, she would have been very irritated.
I love this subreddit, thank you for adding more of this to TH-cam!
*With the last story, it kinda works with my hubby!* He’s been in roofing supplies his whole life. (His dad use to sell them and now my hubby delivers them.)
While working in the warehouse, my hubby was putting a delivery together, and a new dude told him he was doing stuff wrong. The dude just started, but was a lot older, but my hubby told him “ok! If I’m doing it wrong, then _YOU_ do it, and show me how it’s done!” So, the old dude tried to do it, and *the pallet broke in half and fell over!* About a week after that, the old dude quit! 🤣 lol
Story one reminds me of the video where the security stops a guy walking back stage and asks for his pass… it was the vocalist for lamb of god and people got pissed at her and she applogizes and he’s like “NO! YOURE DOING YOUR JOB I LIKE YOU!”
Re: story 1 - bank president.
I did security when young and one day on a weekend, so not business hours, a guy comes in and says he is the CEO, forgot his keys and needed to be let up.
Of course, I asked if he could prove it, and of course he couldn't. He had to call his wife to bring him his ID and keys. She was laughing so hard, it wasn't funny.
I figured I was in so much doo doo, but logged everything. Yup, the security company and customer rep were raking me over the coals when the fax came in with a letter of commendation from the CEO for doing such a good job.
Its so much funnier when the entitled person is like "I'M THE SPOUSE OF THE OWNER" to the owner. Its like "I didn't know we were married?"
Oh my goodness!! My FAVORITE type of these videos!! I love "I Do Work Here" videos!! Yayyy! Thank you!!
The first story is highly improbable. First, to moonlight while in the military requires permission, which can be gotten, but often is not. But the thing that makes it ridiculous is running in with two guns. This only happens on TV or in movies. No one trained to shoot would ever do that, as it’s nearly impossible to focus on a target.
I got chills listening to the security guard because I wouldn't be surprised if that guy and my dad worked together. My father was stationed at Little Rock AFB and in the 80s, he worked the overnight shift as a security guard for a bank downtown. He even told me several stories of having to go around and punch in on different clocks so the bank knows that they were actually patrolling like they were supposed to. I remember him telling a story about a bank president almost being arrested because one of the security guards did not properly fill out their station log informing the other crews of the late night work. He would use that story to drive home the attention to detail and how something like that could have ended badly. I don't know about the one weapon for everyone to use as my dad was issued a handgun, though that could have been do to the improper care given to that one shared gun.
If anyone told me he's friends with the owner, I would just say, "Oh, just have him call me then. I can give you a free repair if he approves it."
We love you too Fluff, and Steve-o! This made my day!
The last story reminds me of this girl I used to work with. My boss and I both think she had a personal issue with me that ran deep enough that she tried to use me as a scapegoat when she left. She's the same age as my father, so yeah, he "epic" exit was childish, and we are glad she's gone.
is it just me or is fluff just as amazing as always owo
!'m 64, a couple of tech degrees, a couple of Govt issued licenses, and when still in the workforce I made sure who the "boss" was. First because everyone thinks they're TFNGs "boss", but mostly to CMA .
Older employees can be almost impossible to train. They never want to accept that they don't know everything and are terrible about learning from mistakes.
I'm a foreman, and I'm the youngest guy in the company. Luckily no one has a problem with taking orders from me
I always wonder, when people are saying they know the owner if someone lied to them and said that they were the owner of a shop never thinking that the Karen would go there. Not that it excuses the behavior but it would be amusing.
In that first story, they suspected theft so they did the audit. Well, I bet you afterwards the president and the auditor spoke and probably both agreed that there was NO WAY that guy took the money and probably was the best protection for that money that they have on payroll
My go-to food when drunk is McDonald’s fries. There’s nothing like a delicious French fry when I’m tipsy. (Don’t worry. I have friends willing to drive me. And I always pay for our food.)
Dude! I don't need to be drunk to crave their fries XD. (Way to stay safe though. Keep it up)
I work retail management. I’ve been a manager since I was 21. I’ve had my fair share of employees under my supervision who have been old enough to be my parents, even grandparents who’ve gotten pissed that someone a fraction of their age is managing them.
First story ... wouldn't it be SOP to tell the security personnel about something like that? I mean, a trigger-happy guard might've just started shooting.
That last story is MY STORY!!!!
I've done some wire pulling, not as a job, but with my dad, and here's my advice on it, listen to the person in charge of the freaking pulling! They most likely know the shape of the conduit that you're pulling through, and the best way to complete the pull without damaging the cabling. It doesn't matter if the boss is younger or older, age does not equal rank/leadership, in most cases, it's knowledge and experience that gives people rank/leadership.
Thanks, it was my original post, we were doing pulls in cable tray 100 feet up in the air off the refinery units floor in the pipe rack. I was one of TWO team leads, my team was responsible for pulling the wire to designated end points (often the motors) while the second team was responsible for feeding said wire up the cable tray waterfall and into the motor control room where a third team of our most senior and experienced journeymen would do the final installation of the wires to the corresponding controls
Yeah having people assume that because they are younger means they are in charge is nothing new. And I've actually had to delay a flight before because of it. Sorry, you don't get to sit in the left seat and run this show just because you happen to be older.
I have been screwed over by pizza places(always by accident, service workers may be stressed out but they don't intentionally skip out on orders). The best thing to do is call them, preferably when they aren't super busy, and just explain what happened. If you are nice about it they will usually give you a free pizza, I think I got one for a missing topping or dipping cup. Also, if you get a free pizza, tip like it wasn't free.
Third story: Who demands free pizza for a three-minute wait for the phone to be answered?
The woman in the story, apparently.
Three minute wait for the phone to be answered?? That would be my husband!! He would be yelling and screaming into the phone telling them to answer!!! He does that ALL the time, he has NO patience. He’s obviously 🙄 NEVER worked on the other end of a phone, but I have so I have to keep him in check😖
@@donnarupert4926 What you ought to do is to show him first hand. Take him to any popular pizza chain store during a "peak time" such as during local team game time, so he can see for himself the employees busting their butts trying to handle a flood of orders they can't possibly keep up with. And then say, imagine yourself in their shoes for a moment.
@@donnarupert4926 tell him to get a job there if he screams at them for one more thing. (Especially if it's unjustified)
@@paul16451 that won't work because then he'd still be bitching
People who actually know the owner don’t need to say so, they just need to make a phone call 😂
19:53 - thing is, when you've been in work for a while, you will inevitably get into a position where you answer to a manager/supervisor/CEO who is younger than you - whether they're a new hire to fill a management vacancy or you've changed jobs. The only thing you can do about it is accept the situation like a mature, responsible adult.
That first story reminds me of the episode where Barney Fife arrested the bank president of the town--only later to catch a REAL criminal!
This popping up made my day so much better. Any DarkFluff day is a better day!
thanks fluff, you just made my night. x
How do people NOT notify security if there are going to be people in secured places outside of normal hours?
It was the 70s and the earlier shift guard probably knew the bank owner and forgot to make a note for the next shift.
The only thing I can think of is that maybe there was a concern than an employee really was stealing from the bank, and the bank president didn't want to tip off the real thief (if there was one) and he just didn't know who to trust until after the audit was over.
The whole not listening to someone toner thing is so about ego. I've worked at all levels at all ages. If you're the new guy at a company, you keep your mouth shut and whatchu what you do. You never what rank someone is in the food chain!
I used to work for a security company, and one of my gigs had me guarding a home construction site. It was in a developed neighborhood, sidewalks and all. In the middle of the night, a big, conspicuous van (not unlike my own; I had gotten it so I'd have a nice big space to lay out a sleeping bag and sack out if I was too tired to drive home after a night shift) pulled up and this guy in dark clothing gets out. I casually get out of my own van, point a flashlight at him, give him a once over so I'll know his face in the future, and let him know I'm there, etcetera. It's perfectly legal for him to park there of course. Which he lets me know, loudly, as he goes into a major Karen rant. One of his issues is that I only got out because I was bored, and I'd better get back in my van. I'm like, really? It's _warm_ in my van. I'm allowed to play _video games_ on my laptop between rounds! (Yes, I know, but I always keep one eye on my surroundings, and nothing ever did get by me, including unscheduled visits by my boss. He was impressed that he could never surprise me.) Anyway I don't _want_ to get out of my van, but now that he's there it's my _job!_ But I never get to say that, because he never shuts up again. I just stand out there and watch him, which just like him parking there _I_ have every right to do, until he gets himself so flustered he gets back in the driver's seat and roars off with a parting, 'I MAKE MORE MONEY THAN YOU DOOOOOOO!'
Yeah, by nicking power tools from construction sites am I right?
Story was the best I have ever heard. Great job .