What On Earth Is Going On At Derby County?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2021
- In September 2015, lifelong fan and local multimillionaire Mel Morris completed a takeover of Derby County from the club's American owners.
In the six years since, Derby have made the Championship play-offs three times - but last season, the club avoided relegation to League One by just a single point under Wayne Rooney, and the Rams are still facing legal action and a transfer embargo from the EFL.
In this documentary, HITC Sevens takes a look at a football club famed worldwide for being the worst in the history of the Premier League; at their financial issues, failed takeover attempts, and their war with the English Football League. - กีฬา
Wasn't expecting Candy Crush lore 9 minutes into a video about Derby County.
Same
If you want 2 of the most outrageous stories intertwining, you should look up the history of Tetris which has a direct link with Jeffrey Epstein's pedo island.
@@DaveWraptastic I'm gonna have to look into that
The video could've been a lot shorter tbh 😂😂
@@DaveWraptastic what?
You know your club is in a mess when it has a “what on earth is going on at...” video made about them 😪
you know its really bad when the video is over half an hour long
Look on the bright side, always nice to see Zamora in a video
and it goes for over 30 minutes
Derbys in the mud
Rip bro
This is why television is dead. You'll never see content like this.
Television is dead? Since when?
I like how you’re doing this right before their friendly with Manchester United.
The scenes if Derby beat us...
@@BigSmokeMUFC It's a friendly doesn't matter if we win,lose or draw
@@BigSmokeMUFC wouldn’t be the first time.
@@aayushkarnik7166 would still be an embarrassment in my eyes.
@@prometheustv6558 ye true.
“Help my car is on fire!”
*Morris: throws money at burning car*
Not sure if tht could help my situation because my car is 2 fires.
Mike Ashely
"Just enjoy the heat"
He can always buy the car for twice what it's worth.
@@MrNewVegas101 scary thing is when you see blokes like this Ashley doesn't look too bad....that is a nightmare
Has really gone from bad to worse for Derby County since losing the play off final to Aston Villa.
that was the most desperate play off final. both clubs in massive debts, huge wage bills etc. either team losing was going to be bad as only one team would have been able to clear the debts and recover the health of the club
@@robbutterill1426 not as desperate for villa, just been taken over by owners worth 11billion who never expected to reach the playoff final and actually set out a plan to return to the premier a season later this final was a bonus.
Not nice to see teams get in this situation I want all the Midlands teams in the top flight even the blues.
@@MrBlackcurrent26 Steady on. BCFC back in the PL? That's a bit extreme.
Yeah, thank you Kelle Roos, such a world class keeper.
For the 23 years of being a Derby fan It has literally been like a rollercoaster ride. One season fantastic, the next a shambles and this endless cycle goes on and on.
As a Derby fan I often find myself asking the exact title of the video
Can’t believe they’re posting this after a spirited and satisfying performance against Manchester United yesterday.
Do you think Lampard would been better if he stayed.
Why do they only have 9 players not arsed to watch 33 minutes of his boring voice
@@tub19 yes, but we all knew he was going to Chelsea when the job was open
@@phom29 I hope lightning doesn't strike twice mate, and I'm a toffee.
I think Rooney is doing a good job there (under the circumstances) and would love to see him keep you up.
He has plenty of time left in his career to become our manager.
video idea: all the original european cup teams from the 55-56 season, where are they now? or the same for the first ucl teams from 92-93
WE NEED THIS VIDEO PLEASE ALFIE IM BEGGING
probs in retirement homes
Tell him to make this vid everyday and he might do it
look at swindon next. they are in a worse position than Derby
And to think they were at one stage a Premier League club.
Definitely gotta do Swindon. They've been a chaotic club for a good ten years
We r in a mess right now
@@BigSmokeMUFC so was Oldham but that is irrelevant
@@bluest.9320 k.
Given Rooney's track record, he's probably past his prime as a manager
did he ever have a "prime" as a manager?
To put it politely Rooney lacks the education and intelligence required to be a manager at any level.
What prime,R U tripping?
@@baliksupper6043 the joke flew over your head, clearly
@@tomthomassony8607 who was it who said of Rooney at the world cup, " wandering around like a pregnant Yak"
Fun fact. Derby's 1946 FA Cup final win was the first time that the ball burst during the match. The second (and last to date) time was the very next year. These are the only two FA Cup finals featuring Charlton Athletic.
I remember going for a meal with my grandad (sadly no longer with us) in 2013, and he recognized one of the players from the the 1946 final, who was even older than him, can't remember which one, but it was a nice moment to see him go and talk to him with such respect.
A “what on earth is going on with Sheffield Wednesday?” might be very interesting :)
as a Wednesday fan myself, I second this
Any club where the local media describes the management of the club as “like watching a set of clowns running across a minefield” deserves to have one of these videos.
as a wednesday fan as well who the hell knows.
If Derby get one of these, so should we really… we’re probably even more worse off. Thanks to Chansiri.
@@LOL-gl1wg I agree, also we have fallen a lot more from grace. Used to be a contender now a joke atm
You missed the best part about the Eric Alonso story in that while he was trying to win fans over on social media, he posted a picture of “his house” that turned out to be some random mansion in LA that was shown off on TikTok.
Imagine being on the training ground when you hear this loud buzzing sound. Look up and there is a drone. _oh that's just the owner spying on us_ 😅 mental
Every training session is recorded for the analysts, it's a total non-story.
@@ForSunday Don't need a drone for that.
@@ForSunday Still a bit weird that the owner wouldn't even tell the manager about it and make him think he's being spied on.
@@areebsiddiqui758 yeah true but I think Pearson was looking for a way out anyway. Those 9 games were very poor and he had a good budget.
I used to have a boss that would watch a live feed of the shop's CCTV from his house when he was off, and if ever i stopped for a break, there would be a call asking why I'm not working. Very quickly chucked that job in. Can't blame Pearson there
Darren wassall’s best moment where he bought on 2 attackers when derby were 3-0 against Rotherham and drew 3-3
With 10 minutes to go
😂😂 I wouldn't even do that on Footy Manager to get youngsters/fringe players some game time.
As a Derby supporter I can confirm that this is a very good video, and that the club is one hell of a mess. Two and half years ago we had an inexplicable five left backs, all of them inadequate one way or another. Today, we barely have five fit first team players, all of them inadequate one way or another. We could end up with a points total even lower than the one we achieved in 2007/8.
Wayne Rooney has turned into Phil Mitchell as a result of being at derby.
🤣
And has turned modern day Derby into 07/08 Derby
Gary Cahill was born in Dronfield, not Derby. Basically Sheffield
Jamaal Lascelles would have been a fit, but I guess he's less famous.
It's Derbyshire but it's next to Chesterfield and Sheffield
@@jhaych if it wasn't for bypass then it'd be Sheffield. Nobody wants to claim Chesterfield.
@@JxkVx well it is a shit hole haha, but it still is classed as Derbyshire even though it has a Sheffield postcode.
@@jhaych same as Worksop etc. We'll let Derbyshire claim then bits😂😂
Could we get one for Swindon as well as they are on the verge of liquidation and in a really poor state currently
I’m happy people are recognising us 😂 even though I’m a Hull fan (from my dad) I live in Swindon and will follow them sometimes
You want follow Bolton. We are just about back on a semi level footomg5
What a headache-inducing situation...
Talking about the "What on Earth in going on" series, have you already thought about Recreativo de Huelva? Spain's oldest club now finds himself in the national, non-professional fifth tier, seemingly after years of careless spending, heavy financial troubles and unclear sportive plans: in comparison, Deportivo La Coruna is in a heaven-like position...
As a Derby supporter were use to all the drama that goes with the club, I put that down as the reason I went grey early..
I know exactly what you mean. I've gone grey too, and I don't even support them!
Again sir, these investigative videos are where you shine. Keep it up.
You should do a spin on the what on earth series. You could do what on earth happened to Brentford/Barnsley as their model seems to be working and could be used and standardized throughout the EFL.
Depressing, even to a Wolves fan. Good luck.
I wish for the days of Nigel Clough. At least things were stable and the club wasn’t on the verge of collapse.
Love these videos. It's probably on your list to have a look at but the mess at Swindon Town seems like a good candidate for a video.
I’m a Forest fan, this is pretty sad. I like having strong local rivals, so I want to see the Sheep recover.
Wildest thing is that because of them literally having to play their kids against Chorley, those kids are now considered senior pros and now because of their ongoing restrictions, they can't sign many free agents. A long season ahead for those guys.
as a forest supporter the only thing i care about is that derby got away with breaking the rules, forest got a transfer embargo for 3 windows just for having a bad owner, derby break every single rule every season and get a slap on the wrist
We have had a transfer embargo for over a season 🤷♂️
Answer: get better lawyers
Derby almost got relegated on my birthday you REDS!
@@mitchwade1120 but they didn’t get relegated
@Martin D we have had a transfer embargo for the last year tho
Excellent video
Enjoyed it immensely
13:56 Love to see the reference to Todd In The Shadows! What On Earth Is Going On At... x Trainwreckords is the collab I didn't know I needed.
Absolutely cracking video! Thanks so much. Now how about a video in Scunthorpe United, though I imagine our situation is similar to Derby County, as our fabulous chairman, Peter Swann, has pulled the “sale of club ground” swindle as well. We also finished 2 points above the drop, if Bury hadn’t folded we’d have been relegated.
Correction on rowett. He wasn’t sacked by derby. He left to join stoke
Top report. The parallels between Derby County and my own club Sheffield Wednesday are astonishing
A real top video, it's my club and only after watching have I realised the true extent of the mess we find ourselves in, anyway onwards and upwards 🐏🐏🐏
I will always remember Derby for breaking my heart as a kid. My first ever football match was hosting Derby at home and we lost 2-1 from memory. Always been a bit salty about it ever since. The seeming foreverness is waiting to get onto a train home afterwards really cemented it in that salt.
How do you think us Derby fans feel? They break our hearts every week 😂
EFL got to look at themselves here how can you give relegated teams 20 million+ for 3 years and then punish already championship clubs for spending money to try and get promoted🤦🏻♂️
thats not efl its the epl who pays, research you'll see the reason why
@@Akinwalesegun the EFL allow this to happen, while punishing non parachute payment clubs for spending
SWFC got a 12 point deduction (reduced to 6) for spending more than they were bringing in and although I am a SWFC fan and it was horrible to see us relegated I agree with the financial fair play rules.... the championship shouldn't be only about who can spend the most money. In my view it should be about bringing up future talent, not just another version of the premier league where the title is usually bought not won. SWFC are a prime example of when throwing money at everything can ruin a club if it doesn't work and they still have players on big wages years after. To be honest Derby got lucky because the situation was similar to SWFC but they only got a suspended deduction
@@mickyblue9658 understood mate Derby and Wednesday have definitely made massive errors financially- but could you blame them for trying to be ambitious and keep up when relegated clubs who are spending millions after being relegated with already stacked teams ?
@@calmdownlad5762 Oh I'll never fault ambition but owners really need to stay within their means. If spending £40 million means you collapse after 2 seasons when you don't get promoted then you really shouldn't even be thinking about spending £40 million. First rule of any business should be sustainability, if you can't sustain it if it does go wrong then you shouldn't be even trying as it can and does easily destroy a club. The payments after relegation is what needs looking at in my opinion, I get that they still have players on premier league wages but if you can't afford those wages then sell some or at least put relegation wage drop clauses in all players contracts.
Enjoyed that mate … makes me feel even worse for my beloved Derby County but great video!
Excellent video as always 👌
Lesson of the story- employ a director of football with a playing philosophy.
they didn’t mention anything about Sam Rush, the former director who was sacked after signing players, who were contracted to agency, or their agents were employed by a company Rush had shares In.
And or the fact that at the time Derby wrote off the stadium, It was a perfectly legal thing to do, the EFL signed off on Derby’s FFP under the previous tenturesehip of Shaun Harvey, it’s not since Rick Parry who came In as the new head of the EFL, that the EFL have had their knives out for Derby.
And let’s be honest, If UEFA have dropped FFP to get Into the champions league, then the EFL should drop them too.
@@B0BBYFL4SH the ffp was dropped by UEFA because they didn't have the courage. It should not be dropped by the EFL
It’s hard loving your club when your club is derby. Always optimistic for the future though lol 🐏
As a Chelsea supporter in the late 1970s and 1980s things do get better. But having Abromavich as Chelsea’s owner isn’t exactly great. Be careful what you wish for!
@@tomthomassony8607 wouldn't mind having chelsea trophy collection though
Wasnt derby about to get promoted a few years ago
Try being an arsenal fan in derby can’t even turn to the local team as a way to stop getting roasted😭😭😭
Thank you I’ve been requesting this video 🙏🏿 I’m watch the whole thing while eating rn
What are you eating? A dead Ram?
@@disillusionedanglophile7680 cereal
@@disillusionedanglophile7680 😂
One of your boots,perhaps ?
I am a big admirer of this channel. This particular video is my favourite yet. 😂😂. Come on you reds!!!!!!
Crawl back under your rock, Hackett!
In fairness, we got rid of McClaren the first time because he failed to distance himself from links to Newcastle and eventually he had his head turned. Gary Rowett was poached by Stoke and then Lampard was taken by Chelsea. I think the EFL are after Morris more than Derby. Hopefully with a sensible new owner we can get back to some normality
Yea we only sacked McClaren once and Clement once thats it
@Martin D We have already been cleared of breaking rules once. What extra info do you have. I smell that you have a biased
Thanks, this was very interesting, as a Derby fan we know we are in trouble. You didn’t mention the ipro deal which I still can’t figure out how it went wrong, it was supposed to be the most lucrative sponsorship deal at the time but I’ve never seen the drink in stores.
Survival next season will be fine 🐏
I love these keeping doing them 👏🙌🏻
Thanks Alfie for providing a welcome distraction from my accounting job to listen to you talk about amortisation and FRS102...
Amazing as always! What about a what's going on at Spezia and how harsh they have been treated compared to every big team in Europe? Or even Catania. From serie A 10 years ago to Serie C. Sold numerous times and last year sold again to American investors and now apparently the former prime minister of Malta wants to buy them!
And that might not even be the craziest story from our country... :D
The quality of names that have been involved at Derby in the last 5/6 years is crazy though. Cocu, lampard, Rooney, Cole, Mount, Bent, jagielka etc.
Hopefully more stability will come after this and we can kick on.
This was maybe your best, most concise, well researched and informative video for a while. Very good work.
An excellent summary of just how it is at Pride Park Stadium for the Black And White faithful, and let me tell you, it is a very frustrating and uncomfortable feeling, trying to work out where our club is heading. But this was well worth the watch, the research absolutely spot on, although there is one very tiny detail that I believe is not correct, and misrepresents Gary Rowett's departure. My understanding is that it wasn't the 2-1 loss to Fulham in the play-off semis that saw him 'finished', more the fact that Stoke City offered to double his money, from the £2M he got from Derby, to £4M. As a Derby supporter, I was sorry to see Gary Rowett depart, but for the offer of that kind of money, it was understandable. Otherwise, a very good production, and thank you.
Please do a Swindon town video because I would like to see want is happening there. Another amazing video
Lee power has rinsed the club, refusing to pay wages as the owner test is nearly completed. No manager, 8 players first team players. Hasn't paid the rent on the ground since April last year and that's just the start of it
Todd in the shadows thumbnail for return of the Mack.
I just had an idea, could you do a video where you catch up on every club that appeared in the "what on earth is going on at..." and talk about how it went for them ?
Anyway, great vid !
Excellent video, very well explained
We're going down this time - see you in League One lads 😎
Hope you are
Scum are going down
Let us self-deprecate in peace you miserable gits 😂
@@LazarouDave lol league one isn't that bad 🤣🤣. I'm hoping you get liquidated
@@james-cq4bn Forest or one of the relegated teams, which one are you then?
did not expect to see a Todd in the Shadows cameo in an HITC Sevens video of all places
Same wtf lol
Excellent video.
Not just England but in actuality the whole world since the Football League was hands down the best league in the world at the time. He was top scorer five times between 1896 and 1904, a record that stood for 66 years until Jimmy Greaves broke it 1968. He retired at the age of 40 and went on to become a WW1 civilian icon/hero.
Rowett wasn’t sacked. Stoke bought out his contract
Gary was an asset 😂
Gary Rowett is a very good coac; once he gets a decent chairman and board he'll do very well.
Video idea: A Scandinavian national team and what would be a Soviet Union national team 2021
sounds stupid
@@KR-mm4el great input 🙄
@@jakecoe4896 if you propose an idea that isn’t terrible, you will gain favorable input
@@KR-mm4el Can I get some input on my input of your input, or can we just stop the foreplay here?
Could do a 'fallen empires if they were still around today'' as long as there isn't loads of overlap. Suggestions would be ottoman, USSR, HRE, Spanish etc.
Came for football. Walked a way with a degree in accounting. Entertaining & informative vid (as per usual)
I will see it twice coz your voice help me to sleep nicely
Do a: What on Earth is going on at Werder Bremen?
Yeah. It’s rly sad seeing them relegated :(
Arent Werder Bremen a yo-yo club? Or is that Wolfsburg? Well it was some green shirt club that kept going up and down
Isaac Willia III last time bremen was relegated was in the 70s i believe so they are not really a yo yo club
@@isaacwilliaiii843 fürth?
@@zlikurac4840 yh
What the hell with all these Italian clubs going bankrupt over the last twenty years. Big clubs too like Palermo, Parma, Catania and now Chievo.
Corruption
Palermo was sent to Serie D 💀💀. Probably the worst punishment I've ever seen
Fantastic. Subbed 👍
Love this series!
Mansfield Town put in an offer for Robert Levendowski
wtf?
My first memories of Derby was the Wanchope era in the Premier League under legendary manager Jim Smith, also remember Man Utd wanted to sign Wanchope at one stage. Sad how far they've fallen along with Sheffied Wednesday who are in their own mess
Btw, the new Wembley is nice to look at outside but I've found it an awful fan experience on the two occasions I've been there (one for a Conference cup final involving Wrexham and the other for Charlton's play off final win vs Sunderland a couple of years ago)
Love to see one about Charlton and the ownership of Duchatalet.
Also you mentioned Darren Bent in the video. Would be interested to info about how he just seemed to fall off a cliff from being great to being non existent
There’s more to it than he was a bit shit?
“Eddie Howe” at the end - that got me 🤣
Lol he’s done that a million times
Please do a What On Earth Is Going On At Inter Miami video. I know you did a video about them less than a year ago but a lot has gone on in the last year with the club that includes them getting caught cheating whilst still losing to the other expansion franchise Nashville SC 3-0 in the MLS playoffs.
No
False advertising rules should compel Derby to rename their stadium "Vaguely Embarrassed Park"...
Our old stadium was called The Baseball Ground so we have a long history of false advertising
@@indiekiddrugpatrol3117 baseball ground aka the mud hut.hinton,hector,mcgovern etc etc.happy days. all peed up the all now mate.dcfc is done.
@@tomburns3113 we'll recover we've a long history of dodgy owners but we'll likely never see days like the early 70s again
Thank you. Waiting for your QPR video. 😀
people saying Lampard moving to Chelsea was a mistake but looking at Derby now, bet he has no regrets
well mad mel let him talk to chelski.didnt even have sense to say,you can talk to em frank,but if you go,we want 2/3 decent loanees.
Now, I wonder how many clubs in the English league system have been ruined by businessmen.
Darlington, Chester, Hereford, Coventry, Charlton, Swindon (if their situation isn't resolved soon), Portsmouth (back a decade ago), Bury, Blackpool... Depends how you define "ruined" but I would say you can argue these clubs and a lot more have been ruined by individuals or businesses for the sake of money
as an accountant loved that you brought up frs 102
Seeing a random Todd in the Shadows thumbnail halfway through the video was the weirdest crossover I never knew I needed
At least with this latest agreement with the EFL we will actually start this season with a 23 man squad. Hopefully we can stay stable on the pitch and with revenues from fans being back in the Stadium and finally get the issues off the pitch resolved for good.
9:24 This should be titled "Derby County Crush Saga"
As a Leeds fan I thought it’s never nice to see another club going through the financial struggles that nearly killed us, then it started happening to Derby and I realised it’s not always bad.
MOT ALAW
Very good insight , thoroughly enjoyed it . Blackburn Rovers venky's debacle would be a good watch.
Can you do one on Swindon Town. Very bizarre scenes at the club atm
wayne rooney as average as a manager, derby will get relegated if he’s managing
As a Derby fan, I agree with the latter part of your comment. The part I disagree with is that Rooney is an average manager, Rooney is a terrible manager
Well if Derby sack Rooney early on and get a decent manager by Sep/Oct they could stay up
@@rolo951 maybe it would have been worth it if he was a player/manager even if his legs are gone he’s still would be an excellent addition
@@arjunghanekar6140 having watched him when he was player manager, I can assure you that he was an absolute liability, it's a complete myth that he would improve things if he was on the pitch. Despite having the worst squad I have ever seen at Derby County, Rooney was comfortably our worst player before he retired.
@@jimmycheese6875 it's our only chance, I'm worried that we won't be able to afford to sack him unfortunately
So you're telling me everyone's mothers playing candy crush contributed to the collapse of Derby County FC?
Gutted to see what’s happened to early PL regulars like Derby and Wednesday. Ravanelli/Kinkladze and Carbone seem like a lifetime ago. 😢
That's because they are a lifetime ago,in playing career terms.
I’d quite like to see similar videos for team well run, so like “here’s how it should be done” type thing. Clubs that you could cover could be Burnley, Brentford, Leicester, etc.
That said I would Love to know what is going on at former premier league club Swindon Town, given they have just 2 first team players signed with 3 weeks until the season kicks off and only 12 months or so since they won the league 2 title!
Video idea for next month - 'What on earth is still going on at Derby County?'
I will have you know that Derby County are 6 time UCL champs on my FM save
video suggestion: ranking all the managers at the Euros as players seeing as you've done that theme for the Premier League and Championship
Great video mate. Any change of an NUFC one? The current takeover saga is extremely interesting, and very corrupt...
Lovley stadium all the same 👌🏻
In my experience , "novel accounting" will usually catch up with you and drop you directly into the shit
I used to go watch the Derby both home and away when I lived in Manchester. It always felt like an uphill struggle, really. I suggest doing a "What on earth..." vid on my home club: Real Zaragoza from Spain. Now that's a messy club!
Really interesting video. One quick question... the photo of Carlo Ancelotti 11 minutes in, is it poorly photoshopped? It looks so weird 😂
Derby will probably take a few united players on loan to bolster the squad
United?
@@SaudiGod Manchester United.
Yeah, think Mengi is pretty much a done deal. I've heard Rashford, Fernandez and Shaw are on their way in on loan as well 😛
Idea:
What is theoretically the lowest division team that would be able to enter the Europa League?
Anyone that wins the fa cup can enter europa league so, tier 10 in the English league would be
@Dmitry Zaripov could be I didn't know that it went that deep, answer solved...
Thanks!
Thanks Gareth!
Very informative video. Far too many adverts