Edge Insight CTS2 vs Banks Idash 1.8 Data Monster Monitors
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ย. 2019
- A quick comparison of some of the features found in these two popular engine monitors. For additional information on parameters available see the links below;
Idash - shop-banks.s3.amazonaws.com/p...
Edge - edgeproducts.com/shop/insight... - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Great explanation of the 2. I've been looking at both of them.
I made the same conclusion. Great vid.
Thank you, Marion! Love the data/logging offered by the Banks but prefer the look of the Edge. Appreciate you!!👍
Yes, I got the data logging for videoing mostly, now I don't have to have 3 camera pointing at my CTS. ha
Great review!!!
Please do a I-dash vs CTS3
Damn good info Marion. I’m shopping for a gauge display as we speak. I’m leaning towards the CTS2 due to how many things can be displayed.
I have several means of troubleshooting to include AlphaOBD which is king for these trucks. Hopefully this will be all I need.
Thanks sir! 👍🏼
Yeah I think the edge Insight is good choice
I like both equally and was going to decide based on cost alone, which the iDash was cheaper. I was not aware it does not come with any mounting hardware. That was a deal breaker for me, I'll be getting the Edge now. Thanks!
Yeah with Hardware the prices pretty much identical
My CTS2 on 2018 2500 CTD installed in pillar housing has been working for just short of a year now. What ever you choose, IMO is a must have for the vitals not provided by DIC.
Yea. Agree
good video I am thinking of getting a banks also.
Yea, for me, the continuous logging is the deciding factor. I'm looking for a pillar mount.
This video was very helpful. I haven’t decided which one yet but I really like Banks so will probably go in that direction. Do you still have the suction mount or did you upgrade to the a-pillar mount?
Yeah that little thing is amazing how much it can hold
In regards to the ram 2500, where do,we find what the sensors and their name, example EGT1/1 on your screen how do you know what temperature reading this is, I did get the TORQUE app, it does show the active sensors, but this is for androids, which I happen to have, but I also got a iPhone , I got a app that has a ton more options to choose for sensors. Plus a little confused about the NOX sensors. Example, on your TORQUE video you have sensor 1 and 3.. hope you get my thoughts here..
Not sure of a definitive way. There's 4 EGT's. EGT 1/1 is the 1st sensor behind the turbo. EGT 3//3 is the sensor behind the DPF. Those are the only two I use. There are two NOX sensors. One is before the DEF and Cat converter and one after. If you look on the Edge Insight or Banks Idash site, they list what they can monitor. Yea, the torque app is not supported as far as I know.
This is a great video. Thank you. I just purchased an idash. I have the available parameters but cannot find a list what the expected values should be. Idash provides the ability to set alarms. But what good does that do if you don't know what the values should be. Can you give some advise as to where to look for these? Banks was no help. Their engineering dept refused to provide this data.
Yea, I never got much help. Had to come up with my own values and conclusions. I don't use the alarms. Thinking about it, I think I might set one to tell me when I'm getting close to a regen.
I bought the Idash super guage for towing. What parameters do you (the reader) monitor when towing?
I have my gauges set up with RPM, fuel gallons per hour, EGT1, boost and turbo RPM. But I'm constantly playing around with them and changing things on some of the gauges. the nice thing is that they're all being recorded on the log file regardless of whether you watching them or not
Thanks for your video.
My cts2 insight for Toyota is malfunctioning and it is now product discontinued. The features I miss from the CTS2 is the eas power switch for controlling driving lights and the mileage trainer.
Is there any features like a power switch for controlling electronics or a mileage trainer on the iDash?
Thanks in advance.
Marion, great vids. I have the torque pro app with the obdlink mx scanner and cant get the app to show me dpf temperature. Everything else works but that. U have any insight on that? Thx
You have to buy the add on app for torque called bi-scan for gm if you have a lml duramax, not sure on ford or ram diesels
I'll have to look when I get back to Louisiana but if I'm remembering correctly there are several EGT and you have to get the right one. It's there. Pretty sure. I made myself a note to check this and get back to you. I just realized this is a year old. sorry.
That helps thanks
Marion with the new versions of the Edge Insight and Banks Data Monster what is the best way to go? I'm looking for SD Card data collection but not a lot of trouble shooting because my Ram is still under warranty.
The Edge is much better constructed but less data. For most purpose, the Edge is more than adequate.
Is one easier to customize and view? Seems to me the smaller screen of the banks together with the small buttons would seem harder. Any thoughts.
It is and not as well made as the Edge. Has more data however. If you don't record the data, get the Edge.
Hi my name is Chris can you please give me some advice on how to use the automatic shifter column on a Dodge Ram 2500
Hi Chis, I have a lot of towing videos. Keep in 6 or drive if you are not towing, no problem. When towing, I'm cautious about gear select. This video and other address my concerns of downshifting under load. Its rambling but whatever; th-cam.com/video/h-Q3N-LKj8U/w-d-xo.html Let me know if you have an specific questions, glad to help.
Great review, I am going to purchase the Banks, did you consider the Banks pedal monster at the time you purchased?
Not yet!
both work awesome love them!
What’s the best way to get an actual Oil Pressure and Oil Temperature reading into the CTS2 on a 2017 Ram 2500 Cummins?
The sending unit is a combination oil psi and temp gauge. The banks doesn't read either of them Good question.
Marion Blair I know Edge has an EAS a Universal Temperature sensor that would work for oil temp but I’d really like to avoid drilling into the pan or somewhere. Is that the only option?
No, the edge can take a gauge reading from a mechanical gauge I'm pretty sure. Talk to Edge, they can fix you up with the solution. It should be fairly easy but worth the cost?
There's a 1/8" NPT (pipe thread) on the top of the oil filter which could be use. The minimum pressures should be 10 psig at idle and 30 psig at 2500 RPM. There's wet and dry sensors and PSIA vs PSIG. You'll want PSIG and wet sensor, I think since the sensor internal is exposed to the oil. And you want to reference gauge pressure not atmospheric. The port on the top of the oil filter is on the downstream side of the filter. This is where Cummins recommending oil pressure be checked.
Oh sorry but I have one other question Marion. Do you have to keep updating software on either gauge? Like I mentioned before not a lot of trouble shooting but looking for a lot of data at once. I don't want to fiddle with the gauge while I 'm driving and I don't want to keep updating software if I don't have too. Keeping it simple because I RV and I want to do the monitoring with temps and pressures to foresee a possible problem. Thanks Again. I just Love your videos!!
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Max, unfortunately the software gets updated for bugs every once in a while.
You mentioned the Banks has the ability to adjust for tire size, can it also adjust the TPMS threshold?
No it won't. The AlphaODB app will do it. I think you need to get the dealer code from them but everybody is doing it.
@@MarionBlair Roger that. Thank you for the reply! 🍻
Your videos are very helpful. Do you find monitoring EGR Temperature is more/less important as EGR position (%) open/closed?
Hi, No other than just to see that it’s tracking what the pcm is telling it to do, I don’t look at it’s position. One of those things you can’t control.,, ha
Still waiting for your video, how to plug in CTS2 in order to get all information.
Plugs in under the dash directly under the steering wheel to the OBDII connector.
@@MarionBlair did you tune your truck or CTS2 is being used just to get different type of reading?
How do you get the EGT on it when it is not deleted? Can you get it from the OBD?
Yes, it's got the EGT downstream of the turbo. No probe on the manifold. Not perfect but close enough for most.
How many miles do you have on your 2014 ram? Have you service your egr cooler yet
It doesn't need service. EGR or cooler. 45 or so.
Can the Banks display what gear the Transmission is in and if the Converter is locked? Can't seem to find this info on their website nor find a parameter list for a 2020 3500 6.7L.
Banks doesn't show the lockup like the Edge, unfortunately. This is a short coming of the idash and it does show the gear but only the gear you have selected manually. Another words if you are in drive, it won't show the gears are they are automatically changed. I reported this to Banks as well as a couple of other bugs I found and they did address some but not this one. The edge does follow the transmission as it shifts however.
@@MarionBlair Thanks again. Banks just for a nice new Ram 3500 in their shop for testing and toys so hopefully they can add some of these features. The transmission gear and lockup status were one the key items I wanted to see. Hopefully they come out with a Supported Parameter list for the newer trucks like they did for the 2015.
My idash will let me know whether or not the tc is locked
@@dustincrook3565 yea, thanks i misspoke. Sorry. Initially, there wsss an issue I think.
I was reminded that the i dash does show lock up. Sorry
I don't know about any of the stuff these gauges report on. I do however certainly enjoy listening to you. I would like it if you went over regen - what and when - how do you know. My truck is like yours a 14 6.7.
Ha, thanks, I was struggling.
I have the CTS2 in my 2018 Ram tradesman crewcab 2500 6.7. I like it a lot. I have my truck plugged in year round and I like to see my coolant temp when I crank it and watch the turbo temp when I park. I let her cool down below 400 before shut’n her down. It’s great for monitoring what I want to see. I’m happy with it so far.
Yea, CTS2 is awesome. Lots of features. If they would put an SD card and enable continuous logging, the choice would be CTS2 for me.
This as helpful!
wow, thanks auto correct ! that’s WAS helpful… shucks
great side by side comparison = many thanks
question: DID you also install Banks SpeedBrake
John PLunkett no I haven’t
I like the Banks.
Me too. Like having a black box recording everything.
You miss a VERY key point when you talk price. If you want to add say fuel pressure, you almost double the price on the edge unit. You want trans temp also costly, anything that is not straight out of obdII and you just keep paying. I wanted trans temp, fuel pressure, oil pressure, yeah the gap sure widened significantly.
No. Not tuned. (Yet)
Have you done anything with the stock air filter & Cabin Filter? I recently changed to a K&N on my 2018 and it seems a tad bit more responsive - also changed to the K&N cabin filter.
@@jimpotal9351 mine doesn't have cabin air, but I've been thinking about adding it. Also the K&N probably gives you a little more airflow
@@jimpotal9351 No, not yet. I like the cabin air mod but haven’t done it.
Did the car really drive through your window?
No, ha