Sub Ambient Cooling - The new Intel Cryo Cooler brings TEC Cooling to a new Level
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this is the only youtuber i know of that puts out 2 videos in 2 languages for every video. thats a lot of work and its awesome.
Joerg Sprave (Slingshot channel) does this too. Also another german.
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@@Emily1963eh love most of his videos about car detailing, a man has several hobbies xD
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Vadim M, puts videos in Russian and English.
Next up on Intel's plan to keep up with AMD: free bottle of liquid nitrogen with every CPU :D
AMD CPU Threadripper +
I remember hidded chiller cooling in 2019 demo on new Xeon 3175X to be a little better than stock Threaripper 2990WX :D
@Brad Viviviyal in 2012 yes.. in 2020? Lol even a stock 5600x with the box cooler out performs (in some games)this overclocked 10900k requiring a 180watt just to cool the cpu.. & 5900x rips out even ln2 10900k and 5950x rips out every cpu ever made with ln2😂
But the power just went way up. Plus 200W. Big selling point.
10900k...first 500w cpu (with this cooler included)...and still looses to a stock 5900x with an AIO in both st and mt workloads😂
The best uses for TECs used as TEGenerator.(Seebeck effect) I saw was in the USSR. They had parrafin lamps with a TEG on the top , when the lamp heated up it created enough voltage to run radios in the poorest parts of the country. There's a good read on the net.
There are a lot of good uses for TECs even covid tests require them to quickly cycle through the temperature profile of a PCR.
They are great to convert heat into the current. You can transport the current much easier than heat. Airplains, Spacecraft and special measurement devices use them. They are also a good choice if you need to regulate something within single digit °C or F.
I am hoping to see improvements in TEC paint. The applications could be mind-blowing one day. Though some hurdles still remain for now.
Cooling CCD's or lasers is probably the best use I can think of them, my favourite is the Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator (RTG).
CPU cooling with TEC's has always been played with, its just so damn inefficent you might aswell use dry ice or phase change for benchmarks.
If you are that obsessed with something that can do prolonged sub ambient cooling, it would probably be more efficient to run a chiller in an existing water loop, then GPU is also sub ambient too...
@@travman2863
What the hell are you on about...
The cool part of the TEC in this video touches the CPU ONLY!!!
The loop only ever sees the heat produced by the CPU and the TEC so i don't know why you think the coolant will freeze, it actually has more heat being dumped into it vs CPU block only because TEC's are not very efficient.
Even if you were cooling a water loop with the TEC it will not freeze instantly, the TEC will remove heat from the water and reduce the entire loop's overall temperature first before anything starts to freeze.
Condensation/freezing outside the loop would be more of an issue long before then anyway.
This is assuming you have several hundred watts of TEC's in a loop (yea they really are that inefficient).
All that inefficiency ends up as heat, which would need a large loop with big radiators on the hot side of the TEC's.
Also, who the hell uses just water? Most PC coolants have low freezing points, lower than water alone.
I use standard mayhems X1 coolant in my PC, that freezes at -8*c.
For PC's oil is not a good coolant vs water, it has low heat capacity and heat conductivity.
Coupled with the fact its extremely messy to deal with vs water.
Pulling more power so you can pull even more :)
"The Evga T2" -Kingpin
Nothing is free.
yeah more is better right? :)
Thermodynamics baby!
MOAR POWEH
TEC's are how I learned what happens to Socket A when condensation gets in it.
Leave that to the manufacturers
Ya, sub zero is so pentium 4 up to core 2 duo. Its not even fun anymore. More annoying when stuff goes wrong even after you use conformal coating or dielectric grease
I was gunna say what is this, 2003?
Sub zero isn't recommended at all on these coolers, they operated at 10c and above, they have rubber seals to prevent any condensation IF that does occur.
This is huge and we need it.
5.4 - 5.7ghz all core on the 10700k is huge. Imagine once that comes to ryzem
@@Boots3962 I think we can strap these coolers to ryzen cpus and smash intel even more.
I think this tech is the future of all cooling solutions for high-end CPUs. Impressive and I'm looking forward!
Not so efficent that's for sure :D
@@AspectOfTheArchivist It's not about the money. It's about the environment. If you can cool a cpu with air or liquid than why would you use a TEC cooler which more likely consume half the same current as the cou does? If it's for 'who is on the top of the list of cpu overclocking charts' that's fine, but would you use a cpu for work that is barely stable? :) Taking these into consideration should the cpu manufacturer invest in a way better thermal dissipation and efficentcy? Getting a video like this from intel is like: fword that!
It's always nice to see your owner come in and inspect PC parts with you :)
Absolutely love the idea! This could be used for very slick looking builds, i hope they develop it into something amazing
Really curious about how would a Ryzen CPU perform with this...
The fact that my OCed 3900x IDLES at 45c-55c is enough to make me want this cooler.
@@paisis123 why oc it? just use pbo and not manual oc
@@mrsarcasm4874 cause im using ryzen master and for some reason when i do manual OCing. Its the most stable for me.
Lucky my cpu is under water cooling and i only hit about 75c at max usage
Well the software would fail to initialize
Kind of a bummer that Intel didn't decide to make this compatible with many sockets and a generic software implementation for other CPUs. Ryzen CPUs cooled with Intel Cryo Technology is an epic thumb to the eye. Missed opportunity IMO.
That's pretty awesome to see that TEC/ Peltier really was evolving. I used back in 2005 to set my records on ExtremeOverclockers by switching the TEC from a switftech waterblock for other more powerful with a dedicated non-PC power supply. I retired from Hard Overclocking went back until 2017 and noticed that none work using TEC anymore.
Pretty amazing tool :D
I feel ya, combined two Maze 2-2s in 2001 and a custom cold plate, lab power supply... 2.95GHZ AMD Athlon XP baby! :D They're just so inefficient and worse so the higher consumption of the cpu. Good times.
I was waiting for something like this for years. Finaly has come true 👏👏👏
20:48 that tail hanging out.
This is the computer version of "rolling coal"
Needs more upvotes.
I used this type of cooling in the mid 2000s when i did alot of OC on P4s :)
It was called Peltier
@@DejaVuDejaVuDejaVu yes, Peltier Element was the name i learned (Swedish).
Hey Roman I really appreciate you making an English version of your videos. Hats off mate
Your english dubs are much appreciated. Thanks!
Intel : XMP voids Warranty!!
AMD : 5950X
Intel : Cryo Cooler may destroy your whole system
LOL
I think it is cool, hope EK releases something similar for AM4. I like how it can keep the temps just above the dew point and then could use the unregulated mode for some benchmark passes
It’s an intel collab with ek at the moment
@@jaytsun8873 I know, doesn't mean I cant hope that changes in the future
@AFireballinTheSky So A: it is only a constant power load like that if you run it full tilt all the time which is the unregulated mode, Cryo Mode draws much less power on average and still does a great job. B: If you have a 10900k and something like a 3090, who cares about an 200w, hardly a 'nuclear machine' anyways
@@Yesat-Erday I doubt you need more than a temperature sensor on the core, and AMD has that
@AFireballinTheSky Yall praising Nvidia with its 380W RTX 3080 custom models. Why can't you take 150W more with a cooling solution that actually shows amazing results?
Very informative. I never heard of this type of cooling
I learned a lot from this TEC Talk.
Imagine having this kind of cooling for the masses...
it's a mess lol
That's the future of cooling tbh. Air and Water cooling has reached its peak. I personally don't like Watercooling but I would totally go for a solution like this Cryo cooler because it's so much better.
@@alexandrea4316 doesn’t it still require a water loop to extract heat from the hot side of the TEC?
@@rninness there's an AIO that can be used with it
@@alexandrea4316 I personally don't like Watercooling
This is just fancy water cooling. The block just has a TEC sandwiched in it. If you have concerns about water cooling, they won't go away with this solution. One question I have is: would you need a bigger rad? The TEC is taking more heat out of the CPU and that has to go somewhere.
I can see this actually being built right into the CPU cover plate in the future.
Amazing content, I will totally buy one! xD
Japanese physicists theorize that if you carve out swirling grooves onto cooling fan blades, then the spinning fan blades create an evenpowerful fluidic vortex even if the fluid intake speed flow fluctuates or is of low speed. The carved grooves pattern on the fan blades help amplify the intensity of the fluidic intake.
Physics lesson.
Maybe if Intel added some RGB it would run cooler?
The design reminds me of the small Peltier mini fridges.
Only if you run it blue. Red makes it hotter.
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"It's pretty warm in here, about 24C", me sweating in 32C room living near the equator...
6-16c all day here in Norway
Omg... 37-40 Here in argentina
@@IWChayanne I feel you mang. Lol i went to philippines and at 2pm it was like 28C, the air felt so nice and cool even under the sun, while my filipino friend was sweating and complaining how hot it was LoL
Me too...
@DialatedPupils u give the money bruhhh
15:17 gosh, even at 5.6GHz, it's still not even close to break 600 in R20 single thread....
Tragic when an undervolted Zen 3 on air would beat this.
@@jondonnelly4831 A mobile Tiger Lake CPU running on 25 watts would beat that. Intel desktop CPUs are garbage.
And 5600x does that at 4.5 ghz I think
@@TheAtlasRises all intel cpus are garbage
10900k needs like 6.2Ghz to match Zen3 in single core.
Oh my god, this tech is so amazing and I never knew about it.
That's because it sucks: doesn't really help all core, hugely inefficient, pathetic drop in temps and it can potentially fry things if it fails. Just use phase cooling, you'll get like -60c idle with all core loads as hot as -30c on the cooler (so way colder and higher overclocks), and its way more efficient using only a fraction of the power if you just wanted to target 0c.
i have a peltier cooling setup from highschool.. its not as pretty ss this but it work. it was a side project i did with my teacher. awesome guy..
Personally though, I hope they keep improving the tek cooler technology. I always thought with more development it could be amazing.
I have flashbacks of the early 2000 when it was called a Peltier CPU cooler... Same thing.
Peltier is the effect name given to thermal electric coolers.
This is pretty cool! I remember seeing tec's awhile back with the Coolermaster V10 but they never were quite practical. Seeing it intregrated with such a controller is great and makes it a little more feasible if trying to get absolute best cryo mode is great.
Have you ever looked into building a Chillbox from an AC unit to run similar sub-zero setups? Making a loop with a chillbox can totally fix the condensation issue as it all gets frozen as frost to the one radiator inside the chillbox keeping air cooled
Love it. This is the future
Just watched this on LTT. Im home from work today sick. I think Ill download this new intel overclocking app and try to OC my 10700k. I have it running all core 5.1 now but that separate OC values seems interesting.
Which one?
xtu has been around for a while
Engineering Quote : "If a machine/technology gives more than one output, it can be controlled to get desired result within variable range. You just have to design/develop/engineer the instrument that controls it."
Good video Roman
Geez, another blast from the past! I built a variable TEC in mid 2000’s for my Pentium 4 processor. Worked pretty good, although had no software interface - just a potentiometer to manually adjust how cool I wanted it to be. Gave up because of its efficiency: it is 50% at best, as you described. Its second inception actually helped with cooling the radiator, which also kept the water cooler for longer but there was no available TEC for the radiator thickness I was using, so I abandoned it at all.
And now we want to see this device with AMD 5900x-5950x !!! What Zen 3 can do with that coolng ? 5300mhz ???
On future threadrippers!
you'll get more perf out of using 4 dimms versus 2 dimms than overclocking ryzen 3 from what I've seen on so far
It does not fit AMD, Coolermaster made it for INTEL only.
@@SamsungS-or1qf thats the easy part they can mod to fit in amd, problem is the software.
Yep, but i'm shure it can be find the way to test with amd.
15:17 So a stock 5600X can not only beat that single thread score (~600) but do it with almost half the power draw of just the TEC?
It's clever and I like it, but im sticking with Ryzen.
Thanks for being honest with this review! “Fun to play with” that’s what I got from it too. Daily driving this would be...unnecessary.
I would consider buying one of these, because I’m seriously OBSESSED with cooling. I have 4 rads in my 2 loops on my PC, so, this would be fun to play with.
Looks like a pretty interesting piece of technology. I'm sure the engineers had a lot of fun designing this one!
Can't really imagine any practical application for 99.9% of PC Users, but it's cool to see a modern take on Thermoelectric cooling for computers!
It might not cause condensation on the motherboard, but it sure is making me feel the condensation. I'm moist.
oh dear lord
thermal grizzly liquid metal on my ps4 pro still works great! no issues :)
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Lisa Su is running 4 Ryzen models on 7nm architecture, and on top of that Microsoft and Sony just bought Big Navi tech with 8k support and it's just about Christmas.
Apple just released the final blow to Intel. nVidia has bought ARM so they can make a SoC themselves. Intel is the new Nokia.
Spoiler: (15:15) Cinebench R20: 6022 / 581. Well, that was a lot of energy wasted.
Just a bit.
Meanwhile stock 5800x gets 6034 / 627 on r20
@@Joe-jt8qp ye thats what I was thinking
triple cascade phase change is the proper way, ofc @daily use xD
Heck yeah, that's my plan to make one of those for Threadripper 64 core as my daily. I look at my machine now and its only pulling 1700w average gaming with water and I'm like naw, we gotta ramp that up! I'm actually not joking about this either (I've got the evaporator block mostly designed but I haven't made my CNC machine yet, and I estimate it will be just under $3k for the pumps even if I want to go overkill with 1kW heat load estimate on the processor, which honestly is probably way more than needed but if I can make it a double headed system I could use one as a GPU head or double 64 core Epyc...)
If you know of anyone that still makes these let me know, because I suck at brazing, lol!
@@jakegarrett8109 try to shoot an email to dimastech, he stopped the production of his phase changer line..but maybe he know where you can find one.
Also, is the extreme overclock forum still active? Ask them too in case.
The last solution is the do it yourself, anyway...ain't gonna be cheap Chief 😎
@@ODIOPOWER Yeah, haha, I figured it would be around $1000 for labor and $3000 for parts (goodness knows how much in crate shipping too). I should probably learn to braze, maybe I'll use that as an excuse to practice, lol!
People have been experimenting with Peltier coolers for much longer. I remember them being used to overclock the 25 MHz ARM3 to about 40 or 50 MHz. That was back in the early 1990s.
I remember the Prometia, used to have one. They also used a Peltier device as part of their main function. In that case, it came with a roll of 100% natural rubber from a real rubber plant. You would use this to create a seal around the socket so inevitably when the condensation was formed, it would cause no damage. That thing could easily get am era appropriate CPU to -40C with ease. Regardless, a Peltier effect thermometric device was used as just part of the whole system.
Waiting for the days when you need a fridge as a case to keep temps in check.
Done that. Not too efficient, unless you have a vacuum pump to replace the moist air by something else like nitrogen.
Just use the compressor and direct cool the block (evap block), just make phase cooler and hit -40 to -60c (I get -60c, but I'm pretty sure its using a mixture that's now banned, but it was made like 15 years ago and still working)
@@jakegarrett8109 You missed our beloved 400w gpu's dont think they will decrease that output soon.
@@ani0.biswas That's fine, phase works for them too and even much higher loads (I want to build a cascade cooler targeting 1000w heat load at -100c, which likely be capable of probably 2x Epyc 64 core CPUs). You can also buy multi-head phase coolers (like Little Devil sells a simple one like mine but it has a cooling block for the CPU and another for the GPU).
My personal build in normal water cooled configuration uses 1700w average running Crysis 3 (100+ fps at 4k Ultra settings), not counting water pump or monitors, so I'm not too concerned with power draw other than keeping it cool, and phase you can build as big as you want. Its not limited the same ways TEC cooling is.
now slap that thing on a gpu!
I totally was hoping for this too! TEC on my CPU and GPU please!
On a gpu this would be amazing
Not powerful enough (notice he didn't see much improvement in the multi-core, and a GPU is never single threaded running). You should use phase cooling if you want actual results (which is how I killed my first GPU, but I had that baby cranked because its max cooler temp I've ever been able to stress it too was -35c, but otherwise watching TH-cam or CAD designing a GPU basically at idle would run at -60c)
Also physical limitations, as in if you need to cool 300w (like modern high end card), then you'd need multiple of these, yet that's way too big of a surface area to actually fit... and if you stacked them then it also runs into a different physical limitation resulting in thermal runaway until something melts. Basically it only works for low power loads, they really pushed the limits to even get it to do this, like I'm really impressed by that.
@@jakegarrett8109 yea phase cooling is better
But it is quite expensive than this
Just go with a normal custom loop on gpu and for cpu use this water block
And linus reviewed the same thing but aio version of it
@@squadteam2309 You're correct that typically TEC is the lower up front cost, but this one is so over-priced that I actually paid less for my phase cooler than this $350 TEC (and it actually costs more than that because you'll also need to more radiator/fans/tubing). So typically yes, but in my case I found a good deal on a used one on Ebay, and I'm quite happy with it.
The performance is so drastic they almost aren't comparable though: the TEC is much closer to a water loop with a car radiator, which is $20 at a junk yard, its gains over typical water loops just isn't that impressive compared to phase at about 70c colder.
Pretty cool tool for over clocking!
I can't stop looking at that GPU... You catch my drift :))
Is intel trying to say something, by giving linus an aio, when giving you the custum loop one?
That they only had one of each?
Linus had both, he used the custom one in previous build
@@davidrajchman7162 It's good practice, to send Linus spare parts of test-units... just in case the 1st one gets dropped somehow ;-)
Sounds like common sense to me
@@ThorDyrden he droped the cpu so yeah
I was using Peltiers back in 2003 when i used to hang around Xtreme Systems - nothing new and tbh pretty crap went to phase change compressors after that -60 C on a pentium 4 lol
Yeah, haha, I still have a phase cooler and last I used it was on a delided Ryzen 2200g direct die cooled (biggest challenge were the capacitors were the same height as the core so I had to insulate them), unfortunately my display died so not sure how hot it got (previous highest temp was -35c with an FX at 1.7 Vcore doing stress tests), but it was doing -60c at idle before the LCD broke (you might have even had the same Asetech Vapochill LS, those controllers were super janky and I'm amazed that it still worked reading the forums and reviews, but it still works without the screen lol!)
This is actually very interesting.
I love novel and rare cooler designs!
I absolutely would not use this without redundant humidity sensors. it's just one sensor failure away from frying your system
Honestly its so pathetic I wouldn't bother. But you can just insulate it and not worry about it**
**My daily machine could run 24/7 at -60c, it was well insulated and had 2x 5w heaters embedded in the insulation layers plus VRM fans which had the affect of keeping them warm when idle and cool when overclocked, but no sensors needed, just a basic single stage phase cooler, some craft foam, Vaseline & plasti-dip for safety, etc
@@jakegarrett8109 What if you need to RMA your motherboard ??? You need to clean up the oily Vaseline and plasti-dip because if you don't do it, the manufacturers can deny your RMA. So if things goes wrong, thts hell of a work to do.
@@fleurdewin7958 ha! You think EXOC doesn’t void warranty? Lol, please don’t be like my cousin who failed a delid and sent it to RMA (this is a true story, and keep reading, it just keeps getting better): Put it upside down in the tool so it smashed off all the capacitors, then because those tiny capacitors went bouncing away and he couldn’t find them he removed some from an old motherboard (they were completely different size and wrong color), then proceeded to super glue these onto the back. Oh but it gets better... He didn’t get them really straight (not that they would have contacted pads or anything, they were wrong size after all), so halfway through drying he decided to try to get them at least lined up with each other, which didn’t work well and they all ended up sticking to each other. So he tried adding more glue, and anyways it became this giant mountain of glue and pile of random mixed size capacitors just thrown onto it. I saw the pictures, it was horrific... I have a feeling it’s probably somewhere on a plaque at Intel QC with the caption “the competence of our customers”, because you could be blind and still instantly feel the massive blob plain as day on the pin side (you couldn’t have even fit it into a motherboard), yet I guess out of pity they sent him a replacement.
Unlike that I take full responsibility for my actions and overclocking, so I test the parts for a couple days stock to ensure no DOA and then once I start overclocking even 1 MHz the warranty is void, if something breaks it’s my fault and I’ll just purchase another one.
@@fleurdewin7958 but if it’s just for personal cleanup or resell: I only use the plasti-dip on the flat areas without capacitors, so that just peels off cleanly in seconds (I do 6 spray coats, the more coats the easier to peel off), and the Vaseline you can actually get 99% off after you’ve used a paper towel to dab up the warm liquid from heat gunning (I don’t think they’d be touching around the socket pins so you just heat gun that out as best you can), and technically you can put motherboards in a washing machine and that should get anything else out or you could do ultrasonic cleaner tank. I do tell people that parts have been used for EXOC or any history of overclocking or modifications, so at the nice discounts I’d offer I don’t think they’d even care if it was covered with anything.
@@jakegarrett8109 How did you build the system? Do you have any videos about it? What is your usage looks like? Really interested in the extreme stuff, keep it up.
Much better than the video Linus put up today...
I used to play around with TEC coolers in 2008-09 and had the same issues you mentioned with condensation.
Either I missed it or linus did not mention the DC switching and the humidity sensor.
It's a cool idea but isn't going to do much for this aging 14nm process that intel is going to try and get another year out of.
Sure you can brute force some higher clock speeds but at what cost. Seems like they have not taken the threat of AMD seriously.
Very informative.
Thanks Roman
Thank god you released your vid soon after Linus, your review is many times better!
I was wanting to make one of these for memory...
I must say I absolutely love having hot CPUs. Back in the sandy bridge days everyone was saying "watercooling is dead", and also sandy didn't really scale with LN2 like previous architectures. Plus there was no $1000 CPU, unless you wanted to buy an old 980x... We thought back then that it might be the coming of the end of overclocking and enthusiast PC stuff... Glad to see things heat up again :)
This is pretty awesome. Although as you've said, I would love to have version of this for my 3175X or X299 CPUs for that matter.
0:24 The Peltier cooler!
edit: Ok it's nice somebody brought back this method and made it way more usable, it has been a pc enthusiasts chimera since the early 2000s, but let's face it, the only reason Intel made this is to get some headline, they really have nothing to show for at the moment. Also thanks Roman for your candor at min 20:00, this is one of the main reasons I follow your channel.
It's not been made usable because TEC wasn't really liked back in the day of 1-2Ghz overclocks on sub zero, now it's 200Mhz extra on a over 5Ghz base cpu it's a joke. No one made it because no one was interested. Adding several hundred watts of power usage to get extra speed you can't feel is basically worthless. You want big numbers for big runs, LN2, you want 24/7 and a reasonable compromise on performance and noise, you go watercooling, TEC and phase change just don't offer enough benefit for the cost, power requirement (TEC so much worse than phase change) or setup.
I'd do this to cool my poor old i9 7980xe for when wanna render something would be nice to see the cooler keep it below 90c
@@shadowarez1337 Wouldn't handle it, that CPU is like twice the power any TEC can physically handle in that area space.
@@Yesat-Erday And then they chose to go live yesterday. Both videos same day, same time, smells like targeted marketing move.
@@Yesat-Erday Yes, rescheduled after Ryzen 5000 launch to get some headlines.
sick Altyn in the back ground :)
I used to chill my Prescott with TEC and waterblock many years ago. Danger Den waterblock. Idle minus 7c and 15c full load. System was noticeably faster as the temperature went to zero and below.
Back in the days we had huge headroom on overclocks even under air let alone approaching or under zero temps. There was a reason that 24/7 exotic cooling died so quickly, with boost clocks and stock clocks so close to the natural clock limits of a node outside of extreme low temps there is just no where near enough to be gained by such cooling.
@@simonmorris4267 Can't disagree. The energy used by a TEC or the additional complexity and energy usage of a phase-change cooling system. Those days were fun though.
How is reliability of this thing, daliy usage 8 hours a day how long it can last
5-10years at least
@@ryanmalin if they can last this long its great, no one wanna see their CPU fried if this thing fails
@@holymolys7692 Still have water running through it, it just increases the performance of a water cooling loop.
@@slickgiraffe6650 yeah not sure Tec thing in between coper thermal conductivity
@@holymolys7692 He had it off at the beginning ("standby" mode) and it worked just fine without it running.
Intel solution to beat ryzen is always daily chiller 😂😂😂😂
la gente lo comprar para enfriar tu TR and they will thank intel for tremendous work, since their processors are a warm oven
About time we got some new Peltiers!
Amazing technology
Roman: "they added legacy CPU support so like your 8700k if you're still running that"
Me with an 8700k: :'(
Same here, and no plan to change it soon.
Hey! No need to knock it. I have one and it's going strong. It'll be going strong for many years to come.
Me with my 4770K T_T
I was running 8700k 5ghz with 4ghz ram back in 2017 if i still had it i would still be high end imo
Me with a delided 4790k :(
So that's what linus was talking about.
yes finally they can show it.
he also released a video at the same time
@@theslayermon yeah just saw it.
a part of me kinda wants to see the same thing on an AMD 5900x.
@pcislocked: no worries :) Video is already shot covering that :D
The CoolIT Systems Freezone Elite from back around 2007-2008 was a pretty good AIO/TEC back in the day.
I played around with a TEC in maybe 2006. I used neoprene and some electrical grease to insulate the socket. I had to use a separate 300w psu, maybe FSP. I think from memory it got my Q6600 to -13 degrees C. I didn't tighten the plate on the waterblock enough, I should have had much lower temps. Got rid of it because I changed hardware almost every month at that time!
I found some old posts. It was -19 at idle and 0.5 at load and a 330w tec
Cool piece of hardware but like you alluded to: even an underclocked 5900x is going to beat this highly binned CPU with a TEC.
This reminds me of the fx 9590 that shipped with a liquid cooler, the graphics on the box had the cpu dunk in water too. How times have changed.
im going to laugh when rocket lake comes out and its beats this ryzen bs
@@scubasteve5659 It's not just about beating the performance though.
@@scubasteve5659 still using 14++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ though. I dont think it will be that efficient.
@@IvanMorningstar they need to move to 7nm from tsmc
Interesting tech but I was sad about your cinebench all core score was low. I just got 6214 on a 10850k with just 240mm rad custom loop. Play more show us what you can do with it.
all core the tek actually works against you, as tek is over saturated it starts to insulate, hence lower score. Tragic Intel.
@@jondonnelly4831 I know that but you can play with power settings and keep it under. I found un volting my 10850 gets scores 6214 at 60c. Don't wanna over do it but you can use them cold temps to play more
@@Millmantv He run cinebench using TVB 3.0 ( take a read) It holds 250W (PL2) for very short period of time. After that, it come back to a frequency where is hold at 125W ( stock power). So, most of the time it run at 125W. To get Cinebench 6200, u run it like 180W ALL the tim, ignoring TVB. Also, you can see, on video, the Effective Clock, that are way lower than those 5.6GHz.
lol cool video didnt expect this.
early 2000s I was TEC cooling CPU and GPU with voltage mods and all the fun stuff! had a total of 5 power supplies running the entire system 😁 turned my GPU into a giant ice block once but it was not energized so it was ok after blow drying it bahaha good times!
As Amd kicking Intel's market for processor, meanwhile intel still winning heart by launching these stuffs
I trust him for computer engineering stuff because he's German
This is cool
thats the coolest tech i've seen in a long time, props to intel i hope other manufacturers create something like that, that works with all cpus not just intel..
Dislike is most likely from Power Company
This bring me back in pentium 4 era when intel at 3ghz was much slower than amd at 1.8GHz 😎, so you had to buy huge thermaltake cooler to be able to bear the noise 🤣
i used to a BP6 mobo with dual celeron 366 OC to 533 on TEC's with twin HS and fans. circa 1998-99 was damn quick back then.
athlon xp 2.8ghz+
good old times
@@alexiex yeah, that athlon actually worked at 2.2GHz
It's about time someone produces a decent Tec cooler... In the past it always showed as a promising but uncontrolable techonology, but no company was taking the steps forward needed. And it wasn't that hard, I mean, it's not like they had to produce the thing out of carbon nanotubes to work... it's just monitoring and modulating...
Hey great Video Roman, I like to hear about where the next cooling techs are going and focusing on. thanks.
Roman, I had a grandmother who was an English grammar teacher, so I notice things, and at 15.55 the chick under your desk, fixing your computer, obviously, accidently, elbowed you in the nuts :D At least that's the "M" rated version I'm going with :D
P.S. there was also a bit where you said AUDI-ence, but that wasn't as funny, just sweet German/English accent. good job!!
I tried tec cooling back in 2011 wasn't worth it lol, the amount of power it consumes is not worth it.
EK-QuantumX Delta Tec 349.90€
damn:)
Yeah, but €49.90 of that price is just for the "X" (thank you Gamers Nexus :-). Get rid of the word "Quantum" and it's €100 less. And, finally, replace "EK" with -China- Cooler Master for another €50 off of the price. For €150, the tech is pretty tempting. For €250 add a closed loop radiator and pump, then people would buy the things like mad. That aside, there are probably some folks/organizations with high performance servers that would pay a lot more for the tech as an all in one bundled solution.
I'd be interested to see a feature added to this system that allows you to set a temperature target as a delta from ambient. If it wasn't targetting the coldest safe temperature, but instead somewhere very close to ambient, that would still outperform water cooling still and hopefully not require as much energy to keep temperatures significantly below ambient.
Clever bit of tech
20:01 exactly my thought too, they are desperate to find a solution to get an advantage again.. even with this xtreme cooling/OC they still loose to the new ryzen 5000 series
Intel just is more fun with overclocking well zen 3 I havent had any experience with seeing how you can buy any fully sold out but I've heard oc is so much easier this time than previous cpu from amd well see
Working with Intel these days must be like bumping into an old girlfriend who invites you back to her place.
Don't do it!!! Be strong.
@@BroNapartay I got stabbed, and she wasn't even my old girlfriend.
Really cool for small pc mods.
Nice to have something different.
"Before people start crying about high voltage" lol
soooooo, how do I buy this?
ali express
Yeh i want to know how to get my hands on that cryocooling
holy shit i want one of these
Recently subbed thanks to Gamers Nexus (Steve). Super informative and very much appreciate the content. Would love to see more about this cooler and what can be expected from it and if other manufactures will take this route going down the line with similar options.