Hey do you or anyone else know if this narrator got this quote from someone else? Or did he just create it? Either way, it's great, but I'd definitely want to knpw the origin, and, to therefore, hopefully be able to explore it more in depth !?!?
I think thats one of the biggest reasons why the original Tremors is such a good film. The people are realistic and smart, always trying to figure out how they can get out of the situation. And on the flip side, the graboids are just as smart, always coming up with a new way to counter the people's latest plan. Its that equal back and forth conflict over advantages and survival that makes for a truly great monster movie.
That Covenant scene is one of Michael Fassbender's favorites because of its dark comedy. While I wouldn't say it fully worked, I can confidently say that not everyone saw the humor there.
I thought Prometheus was horrible and then Ridley Scott made "The Martian" so I gave him a chance with Alien Covenant and I've hated it even more. Two of the worst movies ever made.I don't what the hell he was thinking. He literally did Kathleen Kennedy to his Movies and gave that Witch a blueprint of how to destroy a legacy and Alienate your fan base. Yes pun intended.
They could've donated the money to starving families,Built Homes for low income families,BUT NOOOOO !!! HE WANTED TO RUIN WHAT CAME BEFORE . I THINK HE IS A BAD CLONE ,HE DAVID'D HIMSELF.
I wouldn't say the crew of the Covenant were "too lazy to get back in their pods" but more scared of it seeing as they just watched someone burn alive in one of them. I wouldn't jump in them either.
u also have an android who has examined the ship saying it was coincidence. outside of that, it still makes no sense to abandon ur studies on a planet made for u and ur colonists for the sake of a random planet that got a "distress signal"
@@shosh5806 It's not even just that. Even if your curiosity got the better of you, under no circumstances does it ever make sense to send the MAJORITY OF YOUR CREW to investigate
I appreciate that we're not comparing to Aliens, but Newt shows more maturity in Aliens, than absolutely every character in the abysmal Covenant. "They mostly come at night....mostly!"
The worst thing about covenant for me is the overexplanation of the alien. In movie 1 it was kind of set up that the xenomorph was some kind of bioweapon created by warring alien races. It is suggested but never fullly explained. They keep the origin of the xenomorph vague enough to leave the audience to fill in the blanks. Now along comes covenant, portraying the Xenomorph as a 2nd gen creature, of which the first one was able to infect through spores (which makes the xenomorph look like the worse version imo). Then they completely flip the plot of the first movie on its head by suggesting the xenomorph was a creation of a stray android, who was in turn created by humans. It is so wrong on so many levels and makes the xenomorph barely qualify as an alien at all. I feel like the android character ruins not only this movie, but also retcons the entire series to a point.
Or if they are gonna explain it, it should have been in the end of Prometheus with the engineer waking up, boarding the ship to the space then suddenly the Deacon chestburster came out and the ship crash landed on LV-426. A perfect way to tie up loose ends. No sequel needed.
@@putnam-he2sw I don't entirely give them flak for the specific event you're referring to because the movie did set up that the Engineer was absolutely planning to target and destroy Earth. What I DO have a problem with is how they could have switched the sequence of events to ensure it tied into the first Alien a lot smoother.
Not to mention that, in the Lore, The Xenomorphs are thousands, if not, a hundred thousands years old. The Yautijas (predators) hunted them, and even worship them as the greatest game in their known universe. They have a Homeworld... and now, an evil robot scientist, made him out of the sudden.
5:49 they were not “too lazy” to go back in the pods. They just witnessed their captain getting burned alive in one of those pods due to a malfunction. Obviously they were scared of going back in.
The protmorph back burster thing just looks 100% like a cgi cartoon monster to me I couldn't take it seriously it looked so fake almost as bad as some of teh cgi in alien3
Nah the second girl slipping on the pool of blood like it's a banana peel and then closing the door on her own leg is comedy gold, might have to watch this movie just to laugh my ass off
Classic horror is about people's actions either dooming them or saving them against a killer or monster. Modern horror is a gorefest kill counter or a thinly disguised dark comedy.
Not to purely drop a shadow on a beloved movie, but touching egg-like alien objects as soon as you see them and having a collective feast next to a person who's been in closest contact with unknown organism for several hours - those are not what professionals would do :) At the very least, on these two occasions Nostromo crew were just as stupid as Prometheus and Covenant characters.
@@peabuddie And to be fair there is kind of a jumpcut between Kane waking up and them having dinner, he probably had a shower or something before actually eating with the rest of the crew.
@@flyingintervation4188Yeah I know it sounds dumb but Ash would just insist he's fine and since he's the science officer they would just take his word for it.
My personal theory is that Ridley Scott doesn't want to do ALIEN movies anymore, so he intentionally pulled a Springtime For Hitler plot to make the movies as bad as possible. I can't prove it, but it's what I'd like to think happened.
I think Ridley Scott is a talented director but he needs the right talent around him to support and influence things so his bad habits get left out the movie. He directed Blade Runner, one of the most influencial Cyberpunk movies and yet he thinks Deckard is a replicant which is a concept so stupid that destroys the entire point of the movie. He's capable of creating iconic movies when he's surrounded by talented people who aren't yes men. Kind of like George Lucas the more I think of it.
@@thejackal9834 Ridley Scott was good, before he got senile. Now the yes-men agree with everything, and lets him direct everything, no outside input expect for "yes, my master, you are always correct."
@@E.V.A.N-COProductions A classic example is how Scott fought to have Ripley die at the end of Alien. He was eventually talked out of it, thank God, because people weren't afraid to challenge him
MANN I agree to every single thing you said. Worst part is that the only thing that Covenant has more than cast members are plotholes: 1. Yes, all habitants from a more advanced civilization would gather right underneath a ship that has been missing for THOUSANDS of years and was last seen on its way to create a bioweapon. 2.YES, there is a massive citadel at walking distance from their landing ship, yet they couldn't see it when they first arrived. 3.Yes, David obliterated an entire civilization without any inconvenience, yet his ship... Crashed right after? I could go on for hours... Not only did Covenant completely misregarded everything established in Prometheus, but also everything established on its own franchise.
There is a great Critical Drinker video about how modern Hollywood has seemingly forgotten how to write competent adults in grounded, competent institutions that touches in many points that you do. In his video he mainly uses Star Trek instead of Alien but the insights are similar
Prometheus had the C-section scene which was a great twist on Chest-bursting it also allowed the victim to survive. Many other key moments were mishandled and they made Idris Alba a fuckin throw-away character which is tough to accomplish
Well, maybe the reason why everyone in the Nostromo (Alien) seem so well put together as people and wrokers alike, is because they heard about the sheer incomptence of everyone else before them in outer space and they took those lessons to heart XD. Could be the case, seeing how all of the newer films are prequels after all.
Except that none of the characters in the movie Alien ever mention another crew that was attacked by aliens. None of them seem to have any clue what they are dealing with when a xenomorph pops out of someone's chest. And they didn't seem to bring the proper weapons to defend against such a possibility. In the movie Aliens, the crew actually does seem more prepared.
@@pitchayutxdd That wouldn't mean that there wouldn't be pirates, or even other nations that can run up against an undefended ship, there's got to be an armory, or some sort of "security checkpoint."
Yeah, to me Prometheus and Covenant are on a different timeline/canon. If they can turn around and say that about AVP, I can say that about Alien, Alien Isolation and Aliens.
People use to give too much credit to one person, when in movies usually is a perfect mix and match of talents what makes a great movie. Don't take me wrong, Ridley Scott is an amazing filmmaker (and one of my favorites) but his best works also have some incredible creative talent behind, like the Philip K. Dick novel on Blade Runner and in Alien's case Dan O'Bannon script (who also wrote the very influential comic "The long Tomorrow"). That's not naming the ton of artist that worked on each movie and added a little bit to the final product. Saying that, I don't get what the hell they were trying on this movie. First, dismiss all the mysteries left by Prometheus to answer them in an stupid way, pulling an Alien 3 with Elizabeth Shaw and killing her off-screen, making some even more confusing xenomorphs (the idea of the spores was taken from the script William Gibson made for Alien 3, which is honestly really cool), and the worse thing, destroying the mystery of the origin of the xenomorphs by saying that were made by a bored robot with stones and sticks I guess (even when they had already show them in Prometheus!). I believe a good script is even more important than flashy visuals and impeccable cinematography, but Hollywood seems to have forgotten this long time ago.
I'm guessing that Ridley Scott had a ghost writer pen the scripts of his early films. Or he stole other people's ideas. And now that he is old, he believes that he can create a good story on his own. It's also likely that in the early days of his career, the studios were providing more input and guidance, and he needed the studios to approve his scripts before he began making the films. But now that he is more famous, the studios give him more creative freedom. And this is the result.
You got your thoughts straight, but the responsible for all that workteam put together, get those people involved and make them do their craft in best way possible is the Director. And I disagree, people don't give directors the praise and recognition they deserve, it really goes up generally straight up to the main actors, pretty much like in a band where every single time the recognition goes to the band's vocalist which in most cases doesn't even know nothing about musical composition.
To be fair, in addition to story, pacing, and direction, some appreciation for casting in Alien is well deserved. Every single actor in it is a legitimate star or at minimum a respected, perhaps beloved character actor. Every single one.
I despise Alien Covenant, I love Alien and Aliens anything else is a lazy cash grab, dumb or doesn't fit in the story. thank you Jedi Brooks for this video, I'm really enjoying these scene comparisons. If you don't mind me asking can you do more scene comparison of Alien, Aliens and Predator? Keep up the good work mate, I could listen to this for hours.
@@MagicE13 In that case I'll check it out, thank you. I was under the impression that Alien 3 was considered by a lot of fans to be a poor sequel that needlessly killed off Hicks and Newt. I might get it from the local library, and I'll see what I'll make of it. Have a good day.
@@velociraptor3313 Not needless, just a completely different movie. Something I liked about the first three is they were all very different movies with different themes, not just "Horror Movie 1", "2", and "3." The original was a slow-burn, mood driven absolute horror. In space, no one can hear you scream. The second was a straight-up action thriller with a nasty antagonist. The third was a much more philosophical and emotionally dark exploration of humanity. It was very different from the first two, while embracing elements of both.
As a diehard member of the watching-TH-cam-movie-criticism-channels-that-shred-apart-movies-I-never-saw subculture, Alien Covenant is right at the top of the list of most enjoyable bad movies to hate.
I completely forgot that this movie existed until i saw the footage in the video again. I remember Prometheus but not this one. Its just so bad and forgettable
Not enough thought and craft of the actual story and characters that was an actual thing back in 79. An over reliance on spectacle, CGI and 'look at the shiny things, and probably too many interfering studio execs for the prequels.
@@SlayerPDX Pfft they are not. You can argue that prometheus is better than resurrection perhaps but covenant is the worst film of the franchise easily.
@@SlayerPDX Covenant is in no way better than Alien 3, atleast Alien 3, despite it's production hell, still feels like an Alien movie, still feels like part of the series. I'll give you Resurrection though.
I agree but I take it a bit further, the only movies cannon in the story are: Alien, Aliens, and even the game, Alien Isolation. Everything else is pure dogshit.
I respectfully do not agree with your review. You compared a single scene, did not mention that they are under huge stress after all what happened at the start of the film. Also, they acted like real people do. People is affraid, anxious and commit mistakes in real life, even professionals. Sometimes you get a hero, but mostly you get common people. Also, the music, the ambience, the shots, the CGI, everything looks top notch in A:C. I know its not the best film in the franchise, but its not the worst either. Addiotionally, its thousand times better that most horror films being made today.
@@matiasbarrios7983 "you compared a single scene" um yea its a scene comparisom video you cant ignore points i made about those scenes if your being respectful People making mistakes im real life is different than making professionals act clowns and i really dont care how pretty it looks when im distracted by the terrible writing.
@@jedibrooks7235 yeah. I like to look at the whole package. Not the best writing, thats true, but I found it entertaining. Also, if I am not mistaken, in "Aliens" in the very first scene the scientists remove their helmets in the same idiotic fashion as they do in A:C. So every movies has its little flaws.
6:36 Fun fact: This is Amy Seimetz. The original director of the show “The Idol” before she got fired and The Weeknd and Sam Levinson turned it into an abomination.
Fun fact II: She's was played as Rachel Creed from 2019 remake version of "Pet Sematary", Birdie from "Sweet Tooth" and Becky Ives from Season 2 of "Stranger Things".
Alien Covenant is such a bad movie, but my god I love it. Its just stupid dumb fun and I get giddy seeing all the different xeno/proto/neomorph designs and seeing them fuck up the crew.
@@jedibrooks7235 sadly not, I'm a software engineer by trade, just couldn't help myself but build my own office lol. It's good to know that there are intelligent people in all lines of work. (Other than screenwriters and producers of course).
“Alien” from 1979 STILL seems LIGHT YEARS ahead of science fiction movies released in THIS era! It was WAYYYYY ahead of its time,and it’s one (if not the BEST) “space movies” ever made. 🎤 drop.
I was hyped for a sequel of Prometheus with David and Elizabeth. Instead we spend most of the movie with a crew that other than Danny McBride are bland and not given any time to like. Not only that but Elizabeth gets off screened. Oh ya and all of the engineers? Killed by David. At least Fassbender still did a great performance.
The characters in the original Alien and Aliens sequel were chilled out, relatable and down to earth, we can probably think of people in our real lives who share similar personalities, from people at work, friends, family, neighbours. That is what made it so effective. Even Alien 3 (fincher cut) whilst not as good as the first 2 did keep the characters relatively down to earth, but unrelatable for the most part as they were the "fringe" of society. No sequel since has been able to do that in the franchise
I'm watching this movie now and I'm soooooo bored, I'm glad alien Romulus brought the franchise back too it's roots, that movie is amazing! Yes it isn't perfect has some faults but it's at least watchable unlike this pile of shit
I agree. You don't need to be the perfect organism to kill the dummies in Covenant. Non breathable atmosphere is not the only reason you would wear a helmet on an alien world. Hell, if you ever went to a foreign country and the local bacteria played havoc with your insides you would understand. Your immune system is trained against what it encounters the most. An alien planet with plant life is likely to be filled with, shockingly, bacteria you have encountered very little of, if at all. Bare minimum you don't want to be down the whole mission with some kind of new flu. And at worst it could be something fatal to humans. The medic seems like she has never seen a sick person or blood, in her life. Or the concept of a quarantine. The hug is just infuriating. They blow themselves up in incompetence, without taking the monster with them. They just bluescreen while the bad guy is trying to explain to them that he created all the monsters that killed their colleagues, and just walk into letting him create more with their own life. They react to their colleagues recently being murdered by monsters by just splitting up up and calmly walking off in this creepy holocausted temple and let their guard down completely to freshen up. I feel like there was a deleted scene where there is some kind of gas leak in the ship at the start to explain all of this because I don't get it otherwise.
So many movie analysis like this come from a lack of understanding of human behavior. In a situation when an alien creature (the first alien any of these people has ever seen mind you) comes bursting out one of the crew member's back, It is probably safe to say they aren't gonna be calm, collected or thinking straight. But nerds will jump on the band wagon and justify the criticism youve made by thinking "well i wouldnt of done that so they are dumb" When in actual reality they havent done much of anything with their life other than shit on movies. get real bro
I thought the director’s cut/extended materials version would make me appreciate the movie. But no! The materials show how professional each of the crew member was! They were selected for a reason! Wtf?:) Same in Prometheus but I give a discount to them since not all of them are stupid to that extent. And the aesthetics are more appealing to me.
I like how in Alien Convent everyone is an idiot in a sense. Have you ever been around people in stressful situations. People will absolutely fold and crumble over the simplest things. Now imagine an alien tipping out your friends spine. The shear panic alone would be insane.
Those people in Alien Covenant are supposedly trained for life-threatening situation. But somehow they broke more basic safety rules than a group of space truckers.
Yeah, but these people were acting stupid from the very start. Like walking on an alien planet without any suits and helmets to protect from any possible contaminants. Or without making any plans in case they happen to find aliens on the planet. I mean, there is obviously life on the planet. But none of these supposed scientists ask themselves if the creatures that live on this planet are friendly or dangerous. And of course, like any horror movie, they always split up, even though none of them are familiar with the terrain.
They started piling on dumb decisions well before any threat was present. Both Prometheus and Covenant are infuriating, but at least Prometheus is pretty and looks like there is a better movie hidden somewhere in the edit room, while Covenant has not a single redeeming quality.
@@juanausensi499 I think the biggest flaw of the movie is that there isn't a likeable character that the audience can root for. At least Prometheus had Noomi Rapace and Charlize Theron
Both film's are done by the same director but completely different writers clearly.....This is why we need actual writers and the strike was justified there I'll say it, especially since some directors need them more then other's
Watched Prometheus when I was 12. I was too young and traumatized to notice the awful writing, but not with Covenant. Straight up left the cinema early with that one. Like, what the hell were they thinking?
the military never really took it seriously in the whole Alien series, with no proper military force to protect the ship, and not enough military forces following the scientists for their safety. Even when a military force was sent to rescue, their commander was a greenie.
You need to learn the difference between suspense and action scenes. You’re comparing two completely different things and getting angry that they aren’t the same lmao
@@jedibrooks7235 alien is build up. Covenant wouldn’t work if they tried that, we are 6 movies in now, we’ve seen this stuff before. We already know an alien is about to burst out of some guys body so why try to make it a mystery?
For me, the only interesting thing of this film was David. He had so much potential as a character and as a running theme, and an alternative to the classic one: the creation playing the role of creator.
The Xenomorph fascinated me. The 'Alien' Universe had so much potential. Like the exploration of creators and creation, the war between different races and factions, the insight and depth of Xeno variations and origins. It could have been a space adventure, it could have been a sci-fi action. It could have been a mystery thriller. All the elements of creativity and imagination could be utilised and we get this...!? If there is still hope, it would be amazing to see an Engineer and colonial Marines team up to take out Xeno hives. Or a team of Astronauts abducted be Engineers for experiments trying to escape the spaceship. Or David or any Weyland Android in the search of an Alpha tech to make him Supreme and Human. (Like Ultron wanting to evolve)
That could have been a cool movie. Imagine a movie about humans exploring space, and then they get attacked by xenomorphs, and the Engineers show up and save them, and then take the humans to their planet. Where they find other humans who have teams up with the Engineers in order to exterminate the xenomorphs.
There’s apparently a book series called The Expanse that supposedly does exactly this, going from claustrophobic alien horror to a sweeping space opera as the story expanse from book to book. I’ve never read them but I’ve heard of the series and your comment reminded me of it
Covenant does suck but they didn't want to get into the pods due to laziness. They had just witnessed a crew member get incinerated in his pod due to a malfunction. Think that was a deleted scene though. The comics Fire and Stone along with the proceeding series make for a much better Covenant like story. That has a Predator in it also so good luck getting those three in a movie without it sucking. I also hate how Scott pissed all over the comic design for the Space Jockey and turned them into generic albino chits.
Not a deleted scene, it’s in the first 20 mins of the movie. And the conditions that caused the pod to explode were gonna need to happen again at least a dozen times if they went for the original planet. That’s why they even considered touching down on this world, since it was close and had a better biosphere too
Covenant doesn't even make the xenomorph make sense. Elephant shit that sprouts spores, that then moves so fast through the air like an underwater slug on steroids, to complete hatching from the spine as a fully grown lemur-monkey-shnoo-shnoo that then proves invulnerable to flames, concussion and shrapnel from an explosion. The metabolism of that thing is ridiculous, and there was only the one spore that infected soldier man, instead of the hundreds that erupted. Like Johnathon from the band Korn once said; What the fuck?!
True. If animals can get infected by these spores, then there shouldn't even be any life left on the planet. Because everything would have become infected, or gotten killed and eaten by the aliens. Eventually there would be nothing left for the Aliens to eat.
seriously when I was watching Alien Covenant, I just couldn't believe this was the movie they came up with after all this time. It has so many stupid things that make no sense that you can't even take it seriously, not even as a horror movie. Its a perfect example of everything wrong with modern movies nowadays. Spectacle is all that matters. I'm not saying movies have to be perfect with their logic and worldbuilding and character motivations, but this movie and prometheus were just so dumb. Prometheus had that scientist who decides to go touch an unknown organism with his bare hands, others who decide to take off their helmets inside an alien structure because the air seems good to breathe, as if the idea of alien pathogens never crossed their mind. This movie has that same stupidity as well as the nonsensical motivation of the android who somehow thinks these aliens are so mesmerizing that he kills off an entire planet to make more of them.. for what? If he was really so interested in creating life, you would think he would at least capture some of the people who make the xeno species and learn from them. But nope, he just kills them all.
"People who aren't qualified to boil water are somehow employed on a spaceship" lol Good video. Good analysis. Also I liked the earflaps joke. And the vagina snake joke. And the raping the engineer joke xD
Covenant is, well, amazing actually. But everyone can think whatever they want, it's OK. BUT, what I can't honestly hear is people saying GAIGER, instead of GIGER.
If your more concerned with how I pronounced the mans name than the actual argument than I cant take u seriously. You are free to call it amazing and enjoy it. thats doesnt make it true you need a provide a point
@@jedibrooks7235 you don't have to take me seriously mate haha, chill out a bit 😅. I wasn't saying ANYTHING about your argument. Which, if we take into consideration medical and safety protocols for viruses or unknown bodies (little detail that I know quite a bit) , even with all the relatable things you correctly stated in the video for the crew of the Nostromo, even with that, they're doing it all wrong, the only person who is actually calling all the right buttons is Ripley, the crew dies and she's the only making it out alive at the end. You have to understand and separate one simple thing, if, and only if, we aim to have a very realistic movie, we are actually going to have a very boring one. Like VERY. Danny, for example, is Chief terraformist, and she's the one who is talking with Orem saying, look, if we go by the numbers, seems OK, honestly more than OK, but we can't leave everything behind because a new opportunity presents like this, and then just by faith, which honestly to me, is sadly very very true, some people in higher ranks decide to give you the middle finger and not care about the possible outcome, sometimes politely, sometimes don't. Faris is the pilot, and as with so many pilots, or drivers in my case that I know, it's not common to have real expertise in different fields. That's not an excuse for what she did by way, her reaction and fear surpassed her, and that can also happen way too often in certain situations, it shouldn't, in this case, to her, considering the amount of responsibilities she has, but then again, it can happen and you will be surprised of how many "normal" medical situations gone straight to hell because a person is not dealing well with the current problem. Normally, those occasions happen just because of the accumulated stress they carry with them. Then again, not justifying Faris, but damn it, it can happen. The case of Karine is at least debatable, she's a biologist, dealing with nature is not the same as dealing with people, her attempt to calm Ledward can be taken both as a humble and human and also very idiotic, but on top of that how would you feel about seeing one of the crew members, possibly a friend of yours, being assassinated by this strange little thing coming out of this back? Being calm and all well prepared watching a movie is one thing, experiencing a situation out of this world like is a whole different animal. With all of this being said, again, I'm not attacking you or your argument, but since you mentioned it, I'm explaining to you the basics. We have to have some level of stupidity, error or just plain idiotic behaviors from time to time, otherwise we wouldn't have horror movies in the first place, at least not in the classic way. Then from time to time, we have more clever ideas, but still, even with all of the details everyone can throw to our faces, there is always something that it just feels a bit off, but depending on the situation, some people care about those, some people don't. In my case, I'm really sad that I don't get to see what Ridley planned for the final movies before connecting with the original, but sh) % can happen. Even more with this. There was a great video comparing the original with Covenant, and I was surprised to actually see some of my thoughts on that as well, but, as I told you at the beginning, you can hate it, love it, it's not up to me. I'm sad you couldn't enjoy it as much as I did, even with it's error. But that's the good thing about art and cinema. Have a great one.
“much as a hero is only as strong as their villain, a monster is only effective as it’s victims” good line
"completely ruining dinner" was also a great line... slight understatement though!😂
Hey do you or anyone else know if this narrator got this quote from someone else? Or did he just create it? Either way, it's great, but I'd definitely want to knpw the origin, and, to therefore, hopefully be able to explore it more in depth !?!?
I think thats one of the biggest reasons why the original Tremors is such a good film. The people are realistic and smart, always trying to figure out how they can get out of the situation. And on the flip side, the graboids are just as smart, always coming up with a new way to counter the people's latest plan. Its that equal back and forth conflict over advantages and survival that makes for a truly great monster movie.
I'll add it to "the smartest character cannot be smarter than his writer".
I had never heard of District 9 until this video. Just rented and watched it. Wow is it an amazing movie
Yes!!!!!!!
district 9 is one of the if not the best alien movie ever.
@@MorbiusBlueBalls Aliens coming to Earth maybe. We still have Predator 1 and 2.
District 9 is the alien covenant of sci fi movies
@@broomybroomybroomyyou had a face hugger around your neck too long bro you’re out of your mind
This just makes me want to watch Alien and Aliens again
That Covenant scene is one of Michael Fassbender's favorites because of its dark comedy. While I wouldn't say it fully worked, I can confidently say that not everyone saw the humor there.
I thought Prometheus was horrible and then Ridley Scott made "The Martian" so I gave him a chance with Alien Covenant and I've hated it even more. Two of the worst movies ever made.I don't what the hell he was thinking. He literally did Kathleen Kennedy to his Movies and gave that Witch a blueprint of how to destroy a legacy and Alienate your fan base. Yes pun intended.
They could've donated the money to starving families,Built Homes for low income families,BUT NOOOOO !!! HE WANTED TO RUIN WHAT CAME BEFORE . I THINK HE IS A BAD CLONE ,HE DAVID'D HIMSELF.
I wouldn't say the crew of the Covenant were "too lazy to get back in their pods" but more scared of it seeing as they just watched someone burn alive in one of them. I wouldn't jump in them either.
u also have an android who has examined the ship saying it was coincidence. outside of that, it still makes no sense to abandon ur studies on a planet made for u and ur colonists for the sake of a random planet that got a "distress signal"
@@shosh5806 It's not even just that. Even if your curiosity got the better of you, under no circumstances does it ever make sense to send the MAJORITY OF YOUR CREW to investigate
I appreciate that we're not comparing to Aliens, but Newt shows more maturity in Aliens, than absolutely every character in the abysmal Covenant. "They mostly come at night....mostly!"
Why don't you put *her* in charge?!
Aliens is better than any Alien movie that got out. Even better than the first movie itself
The worst thing about covenant for me is the overexplanation of the alien. In movie 1 it was kind of set up that the xenomorph was some kind of bioweapon created by warring alien races. It is suggested but never fullly explained. They keep the origin of the xenomorph vague enough to leave the audience to fill in the blanks.
Now along comes covenant, portraying the Xenomorph as a 2nd gen creature, of which the first one was able to infect through spores (which makes the xenomorph look like the worse version imo). Then they completely flip the plot of the first movie on its head by suggesting the xenomorph was a creation of a stray android, who was in turn created by humans. It is so wrong on so many levels and makes the xenomorph barely qualify as an alien at all. I feel like the android character ruins not only this movie, but also retcons the entire series to a point.
Or if they are gonna explain it, it should have been in the end of Prometheus with the engineer waking up, boarding the ship to the space then suddenly the Deacon chestburster came out and the ship crash landed on LV-426. A perfect way to tie up loose ends. No sequel needed.
@@putnam-he2sw I don't entirely give them flak for the specific event you're referring to because the movie did set up that the Engineer was absolutely planning to target and destroy Earth. What I DO have a problem with is how they could have switched the sequence of events to ensure it tied into the first Alien a lot smoother.
I simply don't think of the covenant as canon...I think of it as a parody...remember the flute scene....pure parody bruh.
Not to mention that, in the Lore, The Xenomorphs are thousands, if not, a hundred thousands years old.
The Yautijas (predators) hunted them, and even worship them as the greatest game in their known universe.
They have a Homeworld... and now, an evil robot scientist, made him out of the sudden.
@@foxred1988 well that's in the Expanded AVP universe, which is not canon to the mainstream Alien universe.
5:49 they were not “too lazy” to go back in the pods. They just witnessed their captain getting burned alive in one of those pods due to a malfunction. Obviously they were scared of going back in.
Cool, still a shit movie.
You absolutely hit the head of the nail on this one! Studios are relying way too much on CGI to cover up a shitty script and a shitty cast
And also some good cast (like Michael Fassbender and so on), but killed by shitty script.
Yes I hate Covenant most because of the cast Im supposed to love some guy because he wears a Cowboy hat fuck that
The protmorph back burster thing just looks 100% like a cgi cartoon monster to me I couldn't take it seriously it looked so fake almost as bad as some of teh cgi in alien3
What the hell was Danny McBride doing in a horror movie 😭
I can’t wait for you to come back and review Romulus. They did a good job bringing it back to basics
Nah the second girl slipping on the pool of blood like it's a banana peel and then closing the door on her own leg is comedy gold, might have to watch this movie just to laugh my ass off
Classic horror is about people's actions either dooming them or saving them against a killer or monster.
Modern horror is a gorefest kill counter or a thinly disguised dark comedy.
The only positive thing about Covenant and Prometheus is the job opportunities for theorists on TH-cam trying to make sense of Ridley Scott's mess x)
All the people complaining about it were to stupid for the prequels.
And thats not even a positive thing
@@SlayerPDX The sequels were too stupid for the audience.
Nope your just one of the many narcissists with a low IQ that has convinced themselves they are smarter than what their 85iq says they are.
@@SlayerPDX bro thinks those prequels were smart 😂
If I could have died from laughing during this video it would be here 8:14 like why did she run up and stop RIGHT on the blood?
Nobody knows lol but the double slip was the moment i confirmed im making a video on this one day.Insane
Not to purely drop a shadow on a beloved movie, but touching egg-like alien objects as soon as you see them and having a collective feast next to a person who's been in closest contact with unknown organism for several hours - those are not what professionals would do :) At the very least, on these two occasions Nostromo crew were just as stupid as Prometheus and Covenant characters.
They were truckers! Truckers! Not professionals, not scientists, blue-collar truckers.
@@peabuddie And to be fair there is kind of a jumpcut between Kane waking up and them having dinner, he probably had a shower or something before actually eating with the rest of the crew.
@@leoadimanea7826Really? Taking a shower? As opposed to quarantining a man who came in contact with an alien species? 😊
@@flyingintervation4188Yeah I know it sounds dumb but Ash would just insist he's fine and since he's the science officer they would just take his word for it.
@@leoadimanea7826 That's a good point actually, and we know what Ash's deal was, so thats probably exactly what happened 😅
One of the few movies I actually walked out of
It took 3 separate viewings for me to finish. I downloaded the bloody thing, watched at home, fell asleep 2x, woke up to different scenes each time!😂
Godzilla 98
Which part made you walk out
@@stephenthedude4383probably the fingering
@@stephenthedude4383 probably the gay flute bit, did they kiss in the end?
Watching capable people be overwhelmed = scary. Watching incapable people be overwhelmed = frustrating.
My personal theory is that Ridley Scott doesn't want to do ALIEN movies anymore, so he intentionally pulled a Springtime For Hitler plot to make the movies as bad as possible. I can't prove it, but it's what I'd like to think happened.
Nah. He is just out of ideas. He used most of his ideas in his early films. And now he is just phoning it in.
He should have passed the torch to Neill Blomkamp and allowed him to carry on the Alien franchise.
I think Ridley Scott is a talented director but he needs the right talent around him to support and influence things so his bad habits get left out the movie. He directed Blade Runner, one of the most influencial Cyberpunk movies and yet he thinks Deckard is a replicant which is a concept so stupid that destroys the entire point of the movie. He's capable of creating iconic movies when he's surrounded by talented people who aren't yes men. Kind of like George Lucas the more I think of it.
@@thejackal9834 Ridley Scott was good, before he got senile. Now the yes-men agree with everything, and lets him direct everything, no outside input expect for "yes, my master, you are always correct."
@@E.V.A.N-COProductions A classic example is how Scott fought to have Ripley die at the end of Alien. He was eventually talked out of it, thank God, because people weren't afraid to challenge him
MANN I agree to every single thing you said. Worst part is that the only thing that Covenant has more than cast members are plotholes:
1. Yes, all habitants from a more advanced civilization would gather right underneath a ship that has been missing for THOUSANDS of years and was last seen on its way to create a bioweapon.
2.YES, there is a massive citadel at walking distance from their landing ship, yet they couldn't see it when they first arrived.
3.Yes, David obliterated an entire civilization without any inconvenience, yet his ship... Crashed right after?
I could go on for hours... Not only did Covenant completely misregarded everything established in Prometheus, but also everything established on its own franchise.
There is a great Critical Drinker video about how modern Hollywood has seemingly forgotten how to write competent adults in grounded, competent institutions that touches in many points that you do.
In his video he mainly uses Star Trek instead of Alien but the insights are similar
critical drinker is the last person to talk about a good story and good characters.
Actually the Drinker is a professional writer of novels, he knows what he's on about most the time. Go away now
@@MorbiusBlueBallsWhat makes you say that?
@@Maltesfilmbecause he’s probably a whiny leftist
@@MorbiusBlueBalls Let's see your novel then mate lol
My nomination for the worst movie (stupidest) ever made
"completely ruining dinner" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Alien Covenant is such an awful film. I rather watch Prometheus, at least that was interesting.
Prometheus had the C-section scene which was a great twist on Chest-bursting it also allowed the victim to survive. Many other key moments were mishandled and they made Idris Alba a fuckin throw-away character which is tough to accomplish
Prometheus was mediocre, but at least mediocre is better than awful.
@@johnmichinock752 I rather just keep the movies to Alien and Aliens and nothing else about these aliens was ever filmed after.
They both sucked sweaty man ass but covenant was worse
I liked the prequels more. The first ones were just "oh no there's an alien(s) trying to kill us we're all gonna die" over and over again
Well, maybe the reason why everyone in the Nostromo (Alien) seem so well put together as people and wrokers alike, is because they heard about the sheer incomptence of everyone else before them in outer space and they took those lessons to heart XD. Could be the case, seeing how all of the newer films are prequels after all.
Except that none of the characters in the movie Alien ever mention another crew that was attacked by aliens. None of them seem to have any clue what they are dealing with when a xenomorph pops out of someone's chest. And they didn't seem to bring the proper weapons to defend against such a possibility. In the movie Aliens, the crew actually does seem more prepared.
@@nerychristian Oh, come on! It's a commercial transport ship, not a warship.
@@nerychristianThey ain't military like Aliens tho...
@@pitchayutxdd That wouldn't mean that there wouldn't be pirates, or even other nations that can run up against an undefended ship, there's got to be an armory, or some sort of "security checkpoint."
@@E.V.A.N-COProductions Yes.
Those prequels just scream 'too much money, too many ideas and no focus'.
Yeah, to me Prometheus and Covenant are on a different timeline/canon. If they can turn around and say that about AVP, I can say that about Alien, Alien Isolation and Aliens.
People use to give too much credit to one person, when in movies usually is a perfect mix and match of talents what makes a great movie. Don't take me wrong, Ridley Scott is an amazing filmmaker (and one of my favorites) but his best works also have some incredible creative talent behind, like the Philip K. Dick novel on Blade Runner and in Alien's case Dan O'Bannon script (who also wrote the very influential comic "The long Tomorrow"). That's not naming the ton of artist that worked on each movie and added a little bit to the final product. Saying that, I don't get what the hell they were trying on this movie. First, dismiss all the mysteries left by Prometheus to answer them in an stupid way, pulling an Alien 3 with Elizabeth Shaw and killing her off-screen, making some even more confusing xenomorphs (the idea of the spores was taken from the script William Gibson made for Alien 3, which is honestly really cool), and the worse thing, destroying the mystery of the origin of the xenomorphs by saying that were made by a bored robot with stones and sticks I guess (even when they had already show them in Prometheus!). I believe a good script is even more important than flashy visuals and impeccable cinematography, but Hollywood seems to have forgotten this long time ago.
I'm guessing that Ridley Scott had a ghost writer pen the scripts of his early films. Or he stole other people's ideas. And now that he is old, he believes that he can create a good story on his own. It's also likely that in the early days of his career, the studios were providing more input and guidance, and he needed the studios to approve his scripts before he began making the films. But now that he is more famous, the studios give him more creative freedom. And this is the result.
You got your thoughts straight, but the responsible for all that workteam put together, get those people involved and make them do their craft in best way possible is the Director. And I disagree, people don't give directors the praise and recognition they deserve, it really goes up generally straight up to the main actors, pretty much like in a band where every single time the recognition goes to the band's vocalist which in most cases doesn't even know nothing about musical composition.
To be fair, in addition to story, pacing, and direction, some appreciation for casting in Alien is well deserved. Every single actor in it is a legitimate star or at minimum a respected, perhaps beloved character actor. Every single one.
Did you know the jaw from the eel was only known about 10 years after the first alien movie came out!? I don’t know about the other animal though
Maybe the Goblin Shark. That thing is a real life xenomorph
Great video mate, you've put into words why I hate what Ridley Scott did with this franchise. The creator has destroyed his own creation.
Thanks dude. Been listening to you on bsup and seem like a chill dude and i love that thumbnail. Lemme know kf u ever want chat horror movies
bro your videos are actual gold, I laughed so hard during the covenant part.
I despise Alien Covenant, I love Alien and Aliens anything else is a lazy cash grab, dumb or doesn't fit in the story. thank you Jedi Brooks for this video, I'm really enjoying these scene comparisons. If you don't mind me asking can you do more scene comparison of Alien, Aliens and Predator? Keep up the good work mate, I could listen to this for hours.
Alien 3 Assembly Cut is worth a watch, it does more of what Alien did and have Characters.
@@MagicE13 yep, not sure why some people hate Alien3 so much, personally I like it more than Aliens.
@@MagicE13 In that case I'll check it out, thank you. I was under the impression that Alien 3 was considered by a lot of fans to be a poor sequel that needlessly killed off Hicks and Newt. I might get it from the local library, and I'll see what I'll make of it. Have a good day.
@@bdleo300 I don't like it more, but I like it different
@@velociraptor3313 Not needless, just a completely different movie. Something I liked about the first three is they were all very different movies with different themes, not just "Horror Movie 1", "2", and "3." The original was a slow-burn, mood driven absolute horror. In space, no one can hear you scream. The second was a straight-up action thriller with a nasty antagonist. The third was a much more philosophical and emotionally dark exploration of humanity. It was very different from the first two, while embracing elements of both.
As a diehard member of the watching-TH-cam-movie-criticism-channels-that-shred-apart-movies-I-never-saw subculture, Alien Covenant is right at the top of the list of most enjoyable bad movies to hate.
I completely forgot that this movie existed until i saw the footage in the video again.
I remember Prometheus but not this one.
Its just so bad and forgettable
Not enough thought and craft of the actual story and characters that was an actual thing back in 79. An over reliance on spectacle, CGI and 'look at the shiny things, and probably too many interfering studio execs for the prequels.
The predator 2018 makes covenant seem good in comparison.
"Thanks to Prometheus and Covenant, I don't know what the Hell is going on!" LOL.
As far as I'm concerned, Prometheus and Covenant don't exist. I didn't even watch Covenant, and now I'm glad I didn't. Thanks for that! Lol.
They both are better than alien 3 and resurection. youre doing what liberals do... Listening to other people.
@@SlayerPDX Pfft they are not. You can argue that prometheus is better than resurrection perhaps but covenant is the worst film of the franchise easily.
I guarantee I am less liberal than you and Prometheus and covenant are dogshit poo poo
3 and resurrection have their merits
@@SlayerPDX Covenant is in no way better than Alien 3, atleast Alien 3, despite it's production hell, still feels like an Alien movie, still feels like part of the series. I'll give you Resurrection though.
I agree but I take it a bit further, the only movies cannon in the story are: Alien, Aliens, and even the game, Alien Isolation. Everything else is pure dogshit.
0:14 a rare vampire movie
What is it?
@@xilandalet the right one in (2008)
How is it rare. It’s extremely popular
who tf hugs the guy having an extremely painful seizure turning completely white
Right? That seems like a really easy way to get hurt by a random spasm or worse.
A robot made by the humans creating the xenomorph is an just awful writing.
I respectfully do not agree with your review. You compared a single scene, did not mention that they are under huge stress after all what happened at the start of the film. Also, they acted like real people do. People is affraid, anxious and commit mistakes in real life, even professionals. Sometimes you get a hero, but mostly you get common people. Also, the music, the ambience, the shots, the CGI, everything looks top notch in A:C. I know its not the best film in the franchise, but its not the worst either. Addiotionally, its thousand times better that most horror films being made today.
@@matiasbarrios7983 "you compared a single scene" um yea its a scene comparisom video you cant ignore points i made about those scenes if your being respectful
People making mistakes im real life is different than making professionals act clowns and i really dont care how pretty it looks when im distracted by the terrible writing.
@@jedibrooks7235 yeah. I like to look at the whole package. Not the best writing, thats true, but I found it entertaining. Also, if I am not mistaken, in "Aliens" in the very first scene the scientists remove their helmets in the same idiotic fashion as they do in A:C. So every movies has its little flaws.
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Fun fact: This is Amy Seimetz. The original director of the show “The Idol” before she got fired and The Weeknd and Sam Levinson turned it into an abomination.
Fun fact II: She's was played as Rachel Creed from 2019 remake version of "Pet Sematary", Birdie from "Sweet Tooth" and Becky Ives from Season 2 of "Stranger Things".
Fun fact she blew massive weener with this character in Alien: Covenant
Am I the only one who has no idea what Alien Covenant is?
I envy you ;^)
It's only bad fan fiction non canon, consider it only as an example of how NOT to do an Alien movie.
10:37 The funniest part
Great piece of media. Covenant is such a terrible, terrible, movie - and an insult to the legacy of the incredible first two Alien movies.
Alien Covenant is such a bad movie, but my god I love it. Its just stupid dumb fun and I get giddy seeing all the different xeno/proto/neomorph designs and seeing them fuck up the crew.
Just watched Covenant again the other day and that whole sequence got me so mad 😂😂😂
This was a hard movie to watch
"Takes a SHIT on his brain..."
🤣🤣🤣
Dude i'd love to have a beer with you and just rip the shit out of movies like this garbage! Never stop these! :D
Im sure we would have plenty to chat about if u enjoyed this and also we both in trades by the looks of your channel. I am a welder
@@jedibrooks7235 sadly not, I'm a software engineer by trade, just couldn't help myself but build my own office lol.
It's good to know that there are intelligent people in all lines of work. (Other than screenwriters and producers of course).
I don't know why so many horrors movie writers like to write slapstick comedy...
I spit out my food when you said "completely ruining dinner" very funny! Great dissection and analsis of the legacy of alien.
Prometheus and Covenant are so bad, Alien 4 (Resurrection) is a cinematic masterpiece by comparison.
Numerous scenes in Alien: Covenant are so silly and ridiculous that the movie seems like an unintentional comedy.
Alien Covenant: The Donner Party of planetary colonizers.
This was cathartic. Alien and Aliens were some of my fav sci movies, while the latest two are literally some the worst, dumbest movies I've ever seen.
well said! such a disappointment of a movie. Visually amazing but soooo dumb
“Alien” from 1979 STILL seems LIGHT YEARS ahead of science fiction movies released in THIS era! It was WAYYYYY ahead of its time,and it’s one (if not the BEST) “space movies” ever made. 🎤 drop.
I was hyped for a sequel of Prometheus with David and Elizabeth. Instead we spend most of the movie with a crew that other than Danny McBride are bland and not given any time to like. Not only that but Elizabeth gets off screened. Oh ya and all of the engineers? Killed by David. At least Fassbender still did a great performance.
The characters in the original Alien and Aliens sequel were chilled out, relatable and down to earth, we can probably think of people in our real lives who share similar personalities, from people at work, friends, family, neighbours. That is what made it so effective.
Even Alien 3 (fincher cut) whilst not as good as the first 2 did keep the characters relatively down to earth, but unrelatable for the most part as they were the "fringe" of society.
No sequel since has been able to do that in the franchise
I'm watching this movie now and I'm soooooo bored, I'm glad alien Romulus brought the franchise back too it's roots, that movie is amazing! Yes it isn't perfect has some faults but it's at least watchable unlike this pile of shit
Alien Romulus is a dog shite even greater then Covenant
@@midnightblue1874 how? cause people think that but cant explain how? i disagree with you
And actually this was the best scene in Covenant.. so you can imagine the rest of of the movie.
I agree. You don't need to be the perfect organism to kill the dummies in Covenant. Non breathable atmosphere is not the only reason you would wear a helmet on an alien world. Hell, if you ever went to a foreign country and the local bacteria played havoc with your insides you would understand. Your immune system is trained against what it encounters the most. An alien planet with plant life is likely to be filled with, shockingly, bacteria you have encountered very little of, if at all. Bare minimum you don't want to be down the whole mission with some kind of new flu. And at worst it could be something fatal to humans.
The medic seems like she has never seen a sick person or blood, in her life. Or the concept of a quarantine. The hug is just infuriating. They blow themselves up in incompetence, without taking the monster with them. They just bluescreen while the bad guy is trying to explain to them that he created all the monsters that killed their colleagues, and just walk into letting him create more with their own life. They react to their colleagues recently being murdered by monsters by just splitting up up and calmly walking off in this creepy holocausted temple and let their guard down completely to freshen up. I feel like there was a deleted scene where there is some kind of gas leak in the ship at the start to explain all of this because I don't get it otherwise.
So many movie analysis like this come from a lack of understanding of human behavior. In a situation when an alien creature (the first alien any of these people has ever seen mind you) comes bursting out one of the crew member's back, It is probably safe to say they aren't gonna be calm, collected or thinking straight. But nerds will jump on the band wagon and justify the criticism youve made by thinking "well i wouldnt of done that so they are dumb" When in actual reality they havent done much of anything with their life other than shit on movies. get real bro
I thought the director’s cut/extended materials version would make me appreciate the movie. But no! The materials show how professional each of the crew member was! They were selected for a reason! Wtf?:)
Same in Prometheus but I give a discount to them since not all of them are stupid to that extent. And the aesthetics are more appealing to me.
I shan't tire of the Midsommar jabs
I like how in Alien Convent everyone is an idiot in a sense. Have you ever been around people in stressful situations. People will absolutely fold and crumble over the simplest things. Now imagine an alien tipping out your friends spine. The shear panic alone would be insane.
Those people in Alien Covenant are supposedly trained for life-threatening situation. But somehow they broke more basic safety rules than a group of space truckers.
Yeah, but these people were acting stupid from the very start. Like walking on an alien planet without any suits and helmets to protect from any possible contaminants. Or without making any plans in case they happen to find aliens on the planet. I mean, there is obviously life on the planet. But none of these supposed scientists ask themselves if the creatures that live on this planet are friendly or dangerous. And of course, like any horror movie, they always split up, even though none of them are familiar with the terrain.
They started piling on dumb decisions well before any threat was present.
Both Prometheus and Covenant are infuriating, but at least Prometheus is pretty and looks like there is a better movie hidden somewhere in the edit room, while Covenant has not a single redeeming quality.
@@juanausensi499 I think the biggest flaw of the movie is that there isn't a likeable character that the audience can root for. At least Prometheus had Noomi Rapace and Charlize Theron
@@nerychristian That's right, but i might say those characters are likable because the acting, not because of good writing.
Some things really just don't need a prequel.
Covenant failed on almost EVERY level.
I was gutted after watching Covenant in the cinemas. Every single one of your thoughts on this travesty are spot on!
I had no idea all those different animals inspired Aliens! Neat!
Both film's are done by the same director but completely different writers clearly.....This is why we need actual writers and the strike was justified there I'll say it, especially since some directors need them more then other's
Another witty and insightful analysis. Very entertaining!
Watched Prometheus when I was 12.
I was too young and traumatized to notice the awful writing, but not with Covenant.
Straight up left the cinema early with that one.
Like, what the hell were they thinking?
I know right… awful
One of the h worst movies I've ever had the displeaser of watching and proves not all directors get better with age.
the military never really took it seriously in the whole Alien series, with no proper military force to protect the ship, and not enough military forces following the scientists for their safety. Even when a military force was sent to rescue, their commander was a greenie.
Alien, aliens, and Alien Isolation are the only alien productions.
You need to learn the difference between suspense and action scenes. You’re comparing two completely different things and getting angry that they aren’t the same lmao
Explain to difference to me and give an example from my video.
@@jedibrooks7235 alien is build up. Covenant wouldn’t work if they tried that, we are 6 movies in now, we’ve seen this stuff before. We already know an alien is about to burst out of some guys body so why try to make it a mystery?
I've only watched Alien and Aliens. The rest are dead to me.
“Completely ruining dinner” LMAO!
You have a gift for sideways understatement.
For me, the only interesting thing of this film was David. He had so much potential as a character and as a running theme, and an alternative to the classic one: the creation playing the role of creator.
the cast turned into teenages
Excellent analysis!
I still don’t get why they just kill the alien when it’s born 😂
The characters either want to keep it for the company or are too scared/shocked
The Xenomorph fascinated me. The 'Alien' Universe had so much potential. Like the exploration of creators and creation, the war between different races and factions, the insight and depth of Xeno variations and origins.
It could have been a space adventure, it could have been a sci-fi action. It could have been a mystery thriller.
All the elements of creativity and imagination could be utilised and we get this...!?
If there is still hope, it would be amazing to see an Engineer and colonial Marines team up to take out Xeno hives. Or a team of Astronauts abducted be Engineers for experiments trying to escape the spaceship. Or David or any Weyland Android in the search of an Alpha tech to make him Supreme and Human. (Like Ultron wanting to evolve)
That could have been a cool movie. Imagine a movie about humans exploring space, and then they get attacked by xenomorphs, and the Engineers show up and save them, and then take the humans to their planet. Where they find other humans who have teams up with the Engineers in order to exterminate the xenomorphs.
There’s apparently a book series called The Expanse that supposedly does exactly this, going from claustrophobic alien horror to a sweeping space opera as the story expanse from book to book.
I’ve never read them but I’ve heard of the series and your comment reminded me of it
I thought Covenant was good entertainment and the scene you mention pretty frightening. You just come across as cynical to me
Makes me question just how much of the original story from the first Alien came from Ridley.
i literally cannot when she broke her own ankle by closing the door lmaooooo
Ridley Scott has lost it. I had suspected it for awhile, but realized this completely after watching Napoleon.
Alien Covenant doesnt suck. Ridley Scott isnt that much of an idiot.
Alien 3 sucked
Harsh Times is really underrated.
Kane is disembowled in front of the whole crew, completely ruining dinner.
Covenant does suck but they didn't want to get into the pods due to laziness. They had just witnessed a crew member get incinerated in his pod due to a malfunction. Think that was a deleted scene though.
The comics Fire and Stone along with the proceeding series make for a much better Covenant like story. That has a Predator in it also so good luck getting those three in a movie without it sucking.
I also hate how Scott pissed all over the comic design for the Space Jockey and turned them into generic albino chits.
Not a deleted scene, it’s in the first 20 mins of the movie. And the conditions that caused the pod to explode were gonna need to happen again at least a dozen times if they went for the original planet. That’s why they even considered touching down on this world, since it was close and had a better biosphere too
Covenant doesn't even make the xenomorph make sense. Elephant shit that sprouts spores, that then moves so fast through the air like an underwater slug on steroids, to complete hatching from the spine as a fully grown lemur-monkey-shnoo-shnoo that then proves invulnerable to flames, concussion and shrapnel from an explosion. The metabolism of that thing is ridiculous, and there was only the one spore that infected soldier man, instead of the hundreds that erupted. Like Johnathon from the band Korn once said; What the fuck?!
True. If animals can get infected by these spores, then there shouldn't even be any life left on the planet. Because everything would have become infected, or gotten killed and eaten by the aliens. Eventually there would be nothing left for the Aliens to eat.
how did that monkey size alien even fit inside the guy?
Congrats on your appearance on Open Bar the other day.
seriously when I was watching Alien Covenant, I just couldn't believe this was the movie they came up with after all this time. It has so many stupid things that make no sense that you can't even take it seriously, not even as a horror movie. Its a perfect example of everything wrong with modern movies nowadays. Spectacle is all that matters. I'm not saying movies have to be perfect with their logic and worldbuilding and character motivations, but this movie and prometheus were just so dumb. Prometheus had that scientist who decides to go touch an unknown organism with his bare hands, others who decide to take off their helmets inside an alien structure because the air seems good to breathe, as if the idea of alien pathogens never crossed their mind. This movie has that same stupidity as well as the nonsensical motivation of the android who somehow thinks these aliens are so mesmerizing that he kills off an entire planet to make more of them.. for what? If he was really so interested in creating life, you would think he would at least capture some of the people who make the xeno species and learn from them. But nope, he just kills them all.
"People who aren't qualified to boil water are somehow employed on a spaceship" lol
Good video. Good analysis.
Also I liked the earflaps joke.
And the vagina snake joke.
And the raping the engineer joke xD
Covenant is, well, amazing actually. But everyone can think whatever they want, it's OK. BUT, what I can't honestly hear is people saying GAIGER, instead of GIGER.
If your more concerned with how I pronounced the mans name than the actual argument than I cant take u seriously. You are free to call it amazing and enjoy it. thats doesnt make it true you need a provide a point
@@jedibrooks7235 you don't have to take me seriously mate haha, chill out a bit 😅. I wasn't saying ANYTHING about your argument. Which, if we take into consideration medical and safety protocols for viruses or unknown bodies (little detail that I know quite a bit) , even with all the relatable things you correctly stated in the video for the crew of the Nostromo, even with that, they're doing it all wrong, the only person who is actually calling all the right buttons is Ripley, the crew dies and she's the only making it out alive at the end.
You have to understand and separate one simple thing, if, and only if, we aim to have a very realistic movie, we are actually going to have a very boring one. Like VERY.
Danny, for example, is Chief terraformist, and she's the one who is talking with Orem saying, look, if we go by the numbers, seems OK, honestly more than OK, but we can't leave everything behind because a new opportunity presents like this, and then just by faith, which honestly to me, is sadly very very true, some people in higher ranks decide to give you the middle finger and not care about the possible outcome, sometimes politely, sometimes don't.
Faris is the pilot, and as with so many pilots, or drivers in my case that I know, it's not common to have real expertise in different fields.
That's not an excuse for what she did by way, her reaction and fear surpassed her, and that can also happen way too often in certain situations, it shouldn't, in this case, to her, considering the amount of responsibilities she has, but then again, it can happen and you will be surprised of how many "normal" medical situations gone straight to hell because a person is not dealing well with the current problem. Normally, those occasions happen just because of the accumulated stress they carry with them. Then again, not justifying Faris, but damn it, it can happen.
The case of Karine is at least debatable, she's a biologist, dealing with nature is not the same as dealing with people, her attempt to calm Ledward can be taken both as a humble and human and also very idiotic, but on top of that how would you feel about seeing one of the crew members, possibly a friend of yours, being assassinated by this strange little thing coming out of this back?
Being calm and all well prepared watching a movie is one thing, experiencing a situation out of this world like is a whole different animal.
With all of this being said, again, I'm not attacking you or your argument, but since you mentioned it, I'm explaining to you the basics.
We have to have some level of stupidity, error or just plain idiotic behaviors from time to time, otherwise we wouldn't have horror movies in the first place, at least not in the classic way. Then from time to time, we have more clever ideas, but still, even with all of the details everyone can throw to our faces, there is always something that it just feels a bit off, but depending on the situation, some people care about those, some people don't.
In my case, I'm really sad that I don't get to see what Ridley planned for the final movies before connecting with the original, but sh) % can happen. Even more with this.
There was a great video comparing the original with Covenant, and I was surprised to actually see some of my thoughts on that as well, but, as I told you at the beginning, you can hate it, love it, it's not up to me.
I'm sad you couldn't enjoy it as much as I did, even with it's error.
But that's the good thing about art and cinema.
Have a great one.
covenant doesnt suck, alien fans suck, if you dont like it make your own fuckin movie
Cope.