Just a quick comparison between the BC108 and NKT275 Sunface from Analogman. I love them both but I usually use the BC108. Check them out at www.buyanalogman.com/
I prefer BC108, stable at any temperature, can run on Boss adapter, doesn't need to be first in the signal chain and it doesn't cost as much for the rare transistors...
looks like the bias on the NKT is cranked up, that's probably a factor. it would make a fuzz louder and bassier. but also the transistor differences of course.
Yeah but the NKT is way more muddy.....like super muddy....So why go Germanium again. Silicon cuts way more and definitely sounds richer in this sense and way more articulated
A fabulous demo! MANY Thanks! Surprised the 108 wasn't appreciably gainier. The 275 had a darker tone which worked great on the single note lines. I could live with either.
Why is the NKT pedal so much louder and distorted? Not really a fair comparison. Also the recorder is clipping. Lots of problems here. But you can tell they both sound pretty good anyway.
Honestly, they both sound great. I use both silicon and germanium transistor equipped fuzz face types - I let my mood dictate what kind gets the nod for any particular gig. Lately, I've been favoring a certain silicon based one, but tomorrow (or tonight), I may feel drawn to one of my germanium ones instead. I really dig the fuzz face circuit and a well made one (such as the analogman ones), is usually going to sound good regardless of silicon or germanium transistors.
Yeah, I like the NKT better (That thing sounds awesome). I think part of it has to do with the fact that I like a BC108-type Fuzz Face with a touch more gain than that. I was actually surprised how little the BC Sun Face has for a silicon FF clone. I mean, I think my Throbak Overdrive Boost has more gain than that.
NKT sounds better here, sure, but mainly because it seems to have slightly more low end / low mids, and less top. I fancy a lot of what sounds good here will depend on the rest of the setup. The clipping is slightly different, but the Si has the advantage of predictability. The one thing I'm not sure about is the cleanup. Some Ge fuzz faces go from clean to saturated instantly, with no predictable transition. Makes me lean towards Si.
There is just something special about germanium. It just kills silicon in almost all situations with its amazing, how should I say this............... It's character. It just has a character to it that nothing else does.
Maestro MFZ-1 is the fuzz I've seen most commonly associated with that album. However, I don't think the Green Russian is ever a bad choice, and Dan uses one as well. On what songs/albums, I dont know. Either way, both the GR and MFZ-1 are great and hours of fun await.
The NKT had too much Transient Intermodulation Distortion and therefore will not transmit cleanly enough. The BC108 sounded too focussed and lacked an inspiring tone.
BC 108 for me. Cuts much clearer.
I prefer BC108, stable at any temperature, can run on Boss adapter, doesn't need to be first in the signal chain and it doesn't cost as much for the rare transistors...
I prefer the NKT275, it seems to have a richer sound. The BC108 seems alittle bit thin in comparison, the bass end just drops out of it.
looks like the bias on the NKT is cranked up, that's probably a factor. it would make a fuzz louder and bassier. but also the transistor differences of course.
Yeah but the NKT is way more muddy.....like super muddy....So why go Germanium again. Silicon cuts way more and definitely sounds richer in this sense and way more articulated
A fabulous demo! MANY Thanks! Surprised the 108 wasn't appreciably gainier. The 275 had a darker tone which worked great on the single note lines. I could live with either.
You need both of them. How could possibly choose?!?!? :-)
Why is the NKT pedal so much louder and distorted? Not really a fair comparison. Also the recorder is clipping. Lots of problems here. But you can tell they both sound pretty good anyway.
Thank God for Fender guitars and those who know how to make them sing.
So thunderfoot tests pedals now ...
Honestly, they both sound great. I use both silicon and germanium transistor equipped fuzz face types - I let my mood dictate what kind gets the nod for any particular gig. Lately, I've been favoring a certain silicon based one, but tomorrow (or tonight), I may feel drawn to one of my germanium ones instead. I really dig the fuzz face circuit and a well made one (such as the analogman ones), is usually going to sound good regardless of silicon or germanium transistors.
I have a high gain white for [sadly they don't make these anymore] and i couldn't be happier...though the red dot is fairly close in tone and gain
Yeah, I like the NKT better (That thing sounds awesome). I think part of it has to do with the fact that I like a BC108-type Fuzz Face with a touch more gain than that. I was actually surprised how little the BC Sun Face has for a silicon FF clone. I mean, I think my Throbak Overdrive Boost has more gain than that.
Ge FTW!
NKT by far. Especially in a mix.
Hi,
Great video.
Is it BC108C or BC108 ?
I prefer BC108, thanks for the video. No LED, and I skip them both :-)
Karl-Henrik Arendt I think you'll know when they're on.
Nice vídeo brow, congrats!
My guess is the fact that nkt275 costs hundreds more will make the decision easier for some people out there.
It's $45 more
vonslagle Thats the new NKT red dot, that's not the same one as the NKT275. The NKT275 is going for around 550 and is only available second hand.
NKT wins on the cleanup test. Sounds amazing with vol rolled down
NKT sounds better here, sure, but mainly because it seems to have slightly more low end / low mids, and less top. I fancy a lot of what sounds good here will depend on the rest of the setup.
The clipping is slightly different, but the Si has the advantage of predictability.
The one thing I'm not sure about is the cleanup. Some Ge fuzz faces go from clean to saturated instantly, with no predictable transition. Makes me lean towards Si.
Great Vid man, You didn't explain or use the middle control. How does that change the tone? Thanks
The sun knob is a bias
i find my AM bc183 very high gain when the gain is max. i have to back it a bit and use my volume knob in my guitar to tame it. do you do this also?
NKTs are the best
Which not-275 version ? White dot , red dot, high gain white dot.....
+Rasputin1176 He said reg gain red dot at the start.
Why not have both on at the same time, so you don't have to choose...
Nkt 275 is the best
Hello, do you find the sundial really useful ? thank you
There is just something special about germanium. It just kills silicon in almost all situations with its amazing, how should I say this............... It's character. It just has a character to it that nothing else does.
The NKT is pushing the amplifier harder so naturally its going to have a loudness bias in favor of that pedal.
what amp you using?
what's the best pedal for a hard thick freakness fuzz from the black keys
green Russian big muff
Maestro MFZ-1 is the fuzz I've seen most commonly associated with that album. However, I don't think the Green Russian is ever a bad choice, and Dan uses one as well. On what songs/albums, I dont know. Either way, both the GR and MFZ-1 are great and hours of fun await.
I would take Bc108, nk275 is ok for soloing, but very unclear for chords to my ears
bc108 for me :)!
The NKT had too much Transient Intermodulation Distortion and therefore will not transmit cleanly enough. The BC108 sounded too focussed and lacked an inspiring tone.
There's absolutely no comparison.
la voce è troppo bassa rispetto al suono!!!
Senza led non si capisce quale sia attivato!!!
both sounded really muddy and farty to me, even with a tele.
... it’s *fuzz* lol
You literally just described fuzz. Sounds like that on its own but in the context of a band it can be magical.
Lots of non pleasant clipping...
And people spend a ton for these sounds
@@dustinarnold79 I meant “mic clipping”.