BANGGOOD Prices VS Woodpeckers Prices - SAVE £££ - YOU NEED TO SEE THIS ! - Vid#78
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Hi Guys, in this video im talking about comparing prices of a dozen Banggood woodworking handtools. ( Veiko Brand ).
I compare them against the 'LIKE FOR LIKE' versions of the Woodpeckers own brand tools, from both USA and UK suppliers!
The price difference is pretty shocking considering the Banggood products are a pretty close match to the Big Woodpeckers brand.
Im tempted to talk about them now but I have to hold back, so defo worth a watch.
Thanks Ryan
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Great comparison. Without going into western perceived ideas about working conditions in China and the ethics of copying products what is clear is not the cheapness of the banggood stuff but the overpricing of the USA stuff.
Personally when I watch US based woodworking channels I wonder how furniture was made before the advent of CNC machines! I think some of the content creators would need a fancy jig to dispense toilet roll 😅
They’re cheaper because they do not pay for research and development. They’re cheaper because their salaries are not fair. I’m not against bangood, but if you make an honest comparison between prices, you should also consider these aspects.
Not to mention accuracy and durability..
R&D on a square?
It's a triangle with a 90° angle. R&D done. Thank me later.
@@pmdinaz accuracy??? When a square provides 90° to 600mm I'm happy with that. How much more do you need???
Durability??? Of an aluminum square vs. another aluminum square? You're not serious right?
Most Americans say salaries not fair. Dumb comment
Yes... RnD on making a straight ruler... Wow so hard lol
It' worth understanding that Banggood is not a manufacturer, but an Aggregator Marketplace, just like Amazon, they serve to give individual makers and resellers a forum
I have bought lots thru them, and other similar sites and the whole experience is incredible and painless
Thats good to hear!
I’m looking at buying the enjoywood ones same as yours can’t afford $600 or $400 now
Yep, probably the best hand tool I own...👍👍👍
@ I’ve looked at ones on eBay same one most of 5k me I go to Ali or Banggood depending on deal.
I'd love to see the ethical going ons behind the supply of items from the mentioned suppliers. Great getting stuff on the cheap. However at what cost? Where does it end.
I know that woodpeckers is made in the US, but does that justify the triple in price.
Here in Australia the prices are even higher with lower quality at big box stores for products made in China.
So I've switched v to Bangood and AliExpress, instead of big box stores. It has the added benefit of cutting out shareholders.
Ideally I'd have bought from manufacturers in Australia, but there are only a few remaining
Thank you very much for the video. We woodworkers pay enough for tools as it is. In the US Banggood freight charges are very low, as in one to three dollars for an item. I have been a Banggood customer for several years and have found the products to be outstanding in design and manufacturing quality. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the feedback 👍 glad you found it helpful. 😀
I can understand leading brands if they are inventing new products will charge a premium. But a square is a square and has been around for hundreds of years!
Nice to see a TH-cam channel supporting cheaper alternatives. Now we just need a ban goods domino machine haha
Hello great video. I have a question about the glade next to your table saw I'm here in the USA Could you let me know how much and how could get a set-up like yours.
Thank you very much
Sorry for the late reply. What is it you wanted to know??
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop
Yes thank you so much to get back to me.Your shop and work are great.
On the side of your table saw you a g slider type extension. I would where do you got it and how much I leave in USA.Any idea how I get something like yours.
Thank you so much.
There has to be an alternative between insanely expensive woodpecker kit and Chinese slave labour rip offs?
I think you might be surprised if, as I have, you ever visited China. No I don't agree with a lot of their system but neither do I think the West has a blameless record in many areas of human rights. Guess nobody in your circle of friends or family owns an iPhone? Or maybe you can explain to me why Tesla owners are delighted their car came from the Shanghai factory? Remove Chinese manufactured good from the shelves of your country and see what is left.
Chinese manufacturers produce some great stuff and some crap too. If I had my choice I'd buy British but that ship sailed long ago.
It’s about time someone raised this. Although woodpeckers provide an excellent product they are SO arrogant!
They can’t leave the the supply of their entire product range in the uk one outlet. I called them direct 6 months ago and their attitude was shocking. well done mate…
Thank you! 👍
I have had the same problem getting auto parts and computer mice to Australia (!) from the USA, even thru Amazon. The re-shippers do an amazing job
I thought our government praised our working and trade relationship between UK and America ……… they certainly have me fooled! Have tried getting stuff from US in the past, import duty and shipping kills the deal ……. This doesn’t look like it will ever change. Great review, good to share this and let others know !
I can’t afford woodpecker tools.
The closest thing I have might be a push stick I made.
I made it long and slender with a bulbous grip on the end. Then I thought it would be a good idea to round all edges to make it more hand friendly. It has a little notch on the end.
It’s my wood pecker. Sometimes I’m reluctant to pick it up.
Do you have a link to the tracksaw 90 degree guide?
HI I just put it in the description of the last 3 banggood videos :-)
Just purchased a Rigid track saw....what parrallel system will work with it
Sorry for the late reply
I am not sure, worth a buy though. If they dont fit, its easy to modify the little metal parts that slide into the track to make it fit.
Ryan
Without actually having the Woodpecker's version on-hand to compare with, this "comparison" is moot. At least Hooked on Wood owns both the Woodpeckers and Bangood product and does a fair comparison of both products.
+1 about that!
I have Woodpecker's 90° clamps, T-Square, Set of Squares and some other clamps and tools... Yes, the price is high, but... The tools are AMAZING!
I also have some BenchDogz tools and they are amazing too... Can't compare to the cheap one's!
I don't make review's and i bought my own tools, but in this review... obviously someone get paid to do this one 😁😂😄
I notice he’s got Woodpeckers router fence system so would it be fair to say he is acquainted with Woodpeckers’ quality standard? It’s a more complex piece of kit than any of these items.
Buy a product and you'll see. The product will do the talking.... that's all I need to say
Mate, the parallel guide does it work with an Erbauer track saw?
can i buy now.what do i do
This is just crazy - if you want the parallel guides, the difference in price is more than the cost of a Festool TS55 tracksaw! I do worry about buying Chinese kit, but the gouging by Western makers is completely out of order
There is shipping charges after l looked online
Normally I'm a 'get what you pay for' kinda guy, I'll usually pay the bit extra to get a premium product that's going to give me peace of mind. But honestly, woodpecker can eff right off, their prices are abominable. Ordering a pair of T squares from Banggood now, thanks for the informative review :)
Yep I know what you mean....
These are seriously too good to miss, I am still blown away by the quality of the product, especially as they are exactly the same as woodpeckers.... I hope.you enjoy your new buy, I'm sure you will 👍👍👍
Thanks for that video. I've already bought some of those products and agree about the quality and value for money. I've been looking for a tracksaw square fir a while, but could only see the expensive ones and some cheap 3d printed ones. I can't find the one you mentioned on Bangood. Could you post a link to it and the other items? Thanks.
Bench dogs do a rail square that's quite good
Fc tools do an awesome rail square
Thank you for this sir. Are the T Squares square?
Thank you!
All the squares I have bought are all square, and they can all be calibrated too if slightly out 👍
Are they lifting designs from woodpecker? The drill press as an example.
I'm sure your mother, father and your country are so, so proud of you now! GOD HELP US!
They are 😊
Thank you for the lovely comment 👍
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop NO!, their just too stupid to know what's happening! but, Your a butt FG, bed wetting, mama's boy! and YOU WILL find out! Candy ass!
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop Thats because they are too stupid to know any better! and why your country no longer belongs to you!
I was sceptical but you convinced me to try banggood, so I purchased the 760mm t square and the concealed hinge jig. Couldn’t be happier, just received both, earlier than stated, with no hassle. Big 👍
That's amazing! I'm addicted to them now and must own every veiko and drillpro product they make 🤣
But seriously get the p guides if you have the budget and would use them. I'd say they are my favourite buy out of everything!
I have a link to the exact ones in the vid description as there are 2 types. 👍👍👍
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop afraid I went for the dewalt plunge saw and the rails don’t have that option to fit, had to go with Benchdogs. Looks like the little corner clamps are next on the long list. Thanks for all the info, time and effort.
That's a shame 😁
Good shout, they are good too.
No probs at all 👍
If your conscience with regards to buying Chinese products where they kill minorities at will, reneged on the deal with the UK for Hong Kong being a democratically run, If you are happy to pay for kids to make China Militarily stronger which will never end well, if you are happy to support a country which never and I say never respect copyright then fill your boots. Personally I have a conscience and will happily pay for decent quality products from a country which at least respects human Rights. Sometimes it's not easy to avoide Chinese tat/made products but you clearly can here .. Your choice but Living in London one would suggest you have the funs to buy the morally right products .
Woodpeckers is nearly 5x more expensive. That's all I need to say
"country which at least respects human Rights". Hope you're not buying American then.
@@DirkieB I tend not to buy American usually because not much gets here due to tariffs/taxes. Not sure how you can compare the US to China either but ther mere fact you did says all I need to know.
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop Ok leaving aside China's dire record on anything to do with democracy,Human Rights etc purely on from a business perspective ,say for instance you designed a fantastic piece of furniture and you copyrighted it. Then found out China was copying your design and put you out of business. Your "cheap is fucking great attitude" would change overnight. The problem is people don't look at the bigger picture. If Woodpeckers is a US Brand you would be paying taxes and import duty so it would be expensive.
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop Like I said, if you're happy paying for cheap stuff from India,China etc where 6yr old kids work 16hr days just to save you a few poxy £££ then rock on. Next time you look at your kids if you have any picture the scene back in China. Good luck in your business.
Vikeo I’ve got the t ruler I think there’s a 1 meter
Not sure why there isn't a UK company producing this. Or why we price ourselves so highly for things made by a machine
But I ain't buying products from a country that is hostile to the west and Taiwan.
Did you have to pay import duties and handling fees on receipt from Bangood China? There website does not say that it is pre-paid on shipping or not.
Hi, you have the chance to get import insurance as you go to your shopping cart. Its usually only 50p or something. Also it'll.say what delivery charge is in the item description.
Just keep orders to 100 or 150£ at a time I've heard. Just do 2 orders. I think its something to do with import charges, but I've never had any and made a few large orders before
for this video of yours, all i can say you are a LEGEND.... helps out a lot to save a buy the right product. a big thank you.
Does banggood make a knockoff of the makita 118 in track
I havnt seen one, I don't think they do.
great video, are there alternatives to Bessey clamps on banggood? These seem to be hugely inflated for what they are.
Yes, I've only really looked into the small wratchet clamps tho, the ones in the video 👍
I find an over engineered and insanely priced red ruler just as offensive as a crappy plastic 10 cent ruler from China. Fortunately a few Chinese manufacturers are producing quality stuff, Hongdui, Vieko, Wnew and Enjoywood, to name a few.
Great comment and I agree 👍
The handle jig is spot on mate I fit kitchen s constantly and mine is 2 years old and still going strong apart the case has a tab missing but can’t moan at all! Great video also
Amazing 😊
Happy new year Ryan. Some good comparisons there and I find it ridiculous that a UK company should charge so much. We keep being told to buy British but at those prices you can’t blame people for shopping elsewhere although I must admit I really don’t want to be giving any money to China right now…
But remember the UK prices have customs and shipping from the US already factored in... and have to pay the UK staff to manage and fulfill the orders...
Happy new year too! To be honest there's such a massive price difference I'm personally not buying from the 2 woodpeckers suppliers anymore. I cant be wasting that sort of money
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop The major factor in price difference go into engineering. China companies are plain and simple copycat companies. In the long run company like woodpecker will go out of business and innovation / new tools will no more be a thing for details customers like us. This th-cam.com/video/i1OPlxwK9Xs/w-d-xo.html might help you understand what tool innovation is and the cost attached to it. Your money is yours and you do whatever you want with it.
Personally as a Canadian I support companies like Jessem because they come with very good product. There is always a price coming with premium tool, look at Festool. They are fantastic tools and they back their product. Do Banggood back anything? Have you ever return anything without problem?
Thanks for the video.
Waiting for the track saw square review.
I'll try and do.that soon 👍
I bought the drill guide from banggood and now I'm returning it because there is a wobble in the chuck.
That's a shame, mine is spot on!
Wow - I've always loved the Woodpecker tools but as a DIY and novice woodworker I couldn't justify spending that amount on tools......However, I have just ordered some bits that you recommended from Banggood and now you also have another subscriber :)
Amazing, that's great to hear another happy subscriber. I have some links to click on in the description if you need them. Im adding more too ( I qualify for a small amount of commission 😁)
Thanks ryan
Kreg do a hinge jig, significantly more than Banggood, and plastic
The banggood hinge jig is a bargain considering its aluminium 👍
Cheers for video. I've recently discovered banggood and bought their version of the Bessey clamps which I love and for the price can't go wrong.
Nice video I wish them squares would have inch increments
A lot of US companies rip you off, because there are people out there willing to pay crazy amounts of money for things that cost pennies to make. Americans are kind of stupid at the moment of buying. They almost never think about what the real manufacturing price might be. Woodpecker is a good product but waaaaay overpriced.
Think Woodpecker have a uk store, in which postage is free, not sure about import duty, but still expensive compared to banggood. I think i'll order the banggood. Woodpecker way too expensive
Had I known what Veiko's parallel guides cost I wouldn't have made my own. I never doubted Woodpecker's quality but figured, like a cocaine habit, they were for rock stars and crooked politicians. I have bought the 32mm hinge jig, the 600mil square, and 4 of the ratchet clamps. Banggood's holiday sales events are worth waiting for.
Have just bought a stack on your recommendation. Thanks for the reviews.
That's great, you won't be disappointed!
Great video! I am a huge fan of Woodpeckers products but as a company I think they have done a terrible job of managing their pricing structure which has allowed these Chinese copies to overwhelm their potential customers with cheaper options which get better every day.
Thank you. I agree, shame they are so expensive!
Woodpeckers price just went up today.
Im dancing that line of "Do i support China" ? This stuff is cheap for a reason.
Next time I hear coins rattling I will go to bangood and have no reason why.
Hahaha :-)
I understand comparing the price but how are you comparing the quality of the tools if you do not have the tools to see and feel. I can see trying to get tools on the cheaper side but then at the end, you get what you pay for. Shipping is shipping if I want an item I pay what it takes. I think a lot of us will. I don't think you should compare pricing when you do not compare quality.
Look at hooked on wood channel. He does that
Great review, I have a few of these products and agree on your conclusions. But for the 90 degree rail square adapter for saw tracks I’d rather recommend the BenchDogs version just around the £100 mark.
Yep the benchdogs ones look fantastic 👌.
I'm trialling out the budget banggood one out soon as I own one, so would be interested to see how it performs!
I have spoken to Ralph at benchdogs and am keen on getting one of his squares though 😁
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop That extra lip you have on those Veiko squares is also present on the rail adapter, you flip it out either direction to make sure the whole track doesn’t flip over when you remove your saw. And having the option to use the adapter both at your end and the remote end is great
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I don't know. Though i love affordable tools, at the end of the day, if i were a furniture maker/designer, i wonder how would i feel if the products i designed and crafted so meticulously through my sweat, blood and time and a potential customer of mine bought someone else's instead because it's way cheaper with looks so similar to mine.
Great video mate ! I'm in the market for this stuff and looks like you've saved me a right few quid. Cheers 👍
Ridiculously cheap this stuff you won't be disappointed!
You know you're brainwashed when an American company charges you $150 for an extruded piece of red aluminium is met with praises, but when a Chinese company does the same thing and sells it for $8, you get suspicious.
They come from the same factory, from the same machine. What you're paying when you buy woodpeckers is one extra layer of quality control, and about a dozen Woodpeckers managers, CEOs, etc
On the duluxe kit beware there is a plastic one out there, very cheap I fell for it it thinking it was any ally tool, when it arrived i was very disapointed. I don't remember if it was on aliexpress or banggood, it is usable but just not quality like most of the tools. Great video one point regarding pencil holes on marking tools, I bought .5mm gel pens that have the long thin tip for the marking holes from amazon as they do not brake like pencils do
Great tips 👍
I can’t understand why people call them a ripoff there only a ripoff if they made them or used there blank tool then add their name theses are made in Chinese you could say the same about woodpeckers sanding station that holds the sander upside down they ripped off a great guy on TH-cam he made them out of Pleistocene think 4 weeks later woodpeckers was selling them under there name and you have no chance of winning with there lawyers and moey
Wooooow!!!!
I am not OK with China stealing intellectual property, copying it, and producing a cheap imitation at a lower price. No thanks.
There's absolutely no comparison when you get banggood it's the delivery charge to much or I would buy all there tools
I only paid for delivery on 1 of the products I bought. (I own 12) and even that was only 3£.
Make sure you keep your order to around 150£, if your buying more just make 2 orders
Another great video! Good reviews
Thank you mate!
actually, mega nooice!!!!!!
Great content Ryan and thanks , just placed an order for clamping squares and guide clamps, I’ve got a pair of Benchdogs parallel guides ,game changer but this gear looks like great value, happy new year
Thanks! Yep you cant go wrong with this gear! Happy new year too!
They ripped off the Woodpeckers design! I guess that’s OK since you save money.
Can’t help think that people just pay for the brand. I can’t imagine that stuck up numpty you had on here the other would buy bang good stuff over wood peckers even though this stuff is like a quarter if not better of the price. 😂 yes you might get slightly more life out of the branded stuff but not worth the price difference.
I think it's more that woodpeckers came up with the original product and China copied it
@@samrix5793 yes the sane as most things. Brands come up with things and is often copied and manufactured in China (if the original isn't aswell!) I'm not sure I get your point?
@@samrix5793 I’m sure that you are right. But that is inevitable. If you are the innovator, then you accept that you will be able to charge a premium to begin with (and recover R&D costs) but then the me-too products come along and it becomes a commodity bought on price. The Chinese are excellent at the whole area of copying. That is all market economy stuff.
However, they and Russia have whole industries focussed upon stealing products and ideas that are seen to be strategically important to the West.
@@theofarmmanager267 yes agreed same as festool came out with the original tracksaw. I thought your original comment was more about why would anyone buy high end brands rather than once they have been copied and I guess like you comment some of it is around status and maybe customer support or supporting the original creator
@@samrix5793 I’m afraid that the company who relies upon customers supporting the creator (at tremendous cost) for their business model isn’t going to be around too long. I don’t mind supporting the creator if it’s a small business just starting up; but when it’s big business trying to charge a (apparently) unrealistic price, then I am not the one to support it.
As I said in another comment, Made in USA is a solid marketing tool in the USA. Maybe Woodpeckers can rely upon that; perhaps they have worked out that 20% of potential sales at 500% mark up so better than 50% sales at 100% mark up
Lol, I bought the corner clamps from Woodpecker ... only to discover they don't come with the clamp bit 🤣 Lost me as a customer right off the bat with my first order!
I'm gutted for you mate, its a bit like festool when you spend 700 quid on a domino machine and it doesn't even come with any dominos! Madness isn't it?!
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop lol - luckily by the time I could afford Festool I'd got over my infatuation so didn't bother 🤣
I'm not going to buy Chinese if I can when uk or USA is available. Eventually no one will have a job because we've all been outsourced. Just bought my 1st woodpecker rule and very pleased. Shame there's no accuracy tests in this as part of the comparison. Enjoyed seeing the items available anyway so thanks for that.
Wait till then end to get Lorem Ipsum place holding text ha ha
Haha I can't believe I missed it 😅
No thanks to knock offs
you are not taking into account a lot of things, like R&D (they are stealing patents), and you dont compare precisions. So they could be totally useless.
I don't agree that you will save money from some of the tools, bacause you will face so much problems working with them... Also if you make a video after a year or so, i am interested if this tools will still do the work! The clamping square's for example are very good example... I have the Woodpecker's one's and i can say that they are AMAZING! Very easy to use even with one hand, which is impossible with the cheap ones. T-Square have a major difference in the real life too even if they look the same on the pictures. Someone in the comments sad that square is a square... Yes it is, if it is REALLY SQUARE 😉 I am also not sure how durable this tools are... Are they laser ingraved and so on...
So if you buy this cheap buy a few times...it will not be so cheap anymore and most important it will not do the work and will not save you time...
Just thinking out loud!
A square that is square till 600mm is enough for me. How much do you need?
I’ve got a few Drillpro products and accuracy is dead on and equal to Woodpeckers, minus the arrogant pricing.
@@sylvaind.6786 about that square...
1. Is it really squar as brand new and if yes, how long it will stay that way?
2. What material it is and is it laser ingraved?
3. How thick is the material?
4. Does it have that groove to hold on stable on the edge?
5. How durable, easy to use and accurate it will be?
Even 5 time's cheaper now, it will be not cheaper in the future... I am sure that you will buy this tools every year or two... After a few years you will pay the price of a real tool! I am sure that i will never need to buy another one, because the quality tool will be accurate, it will not bend and the scale will be always readable...
Cheap comes expensive 99% of the time ;)
P.S. Of course everything depends on your opinion and choice! Everyone has a choice, so...
No hard feelings :)
Cheers!
@@nikolakemile if it's that cheap, why don't you order one and compare with your tools?
1. At the beginning it's square. Then after 14 years it becomes an octagon and when adult and completely grown up, it's a circle. That's a pro tip to assess the age of a square.
@@sylvaind.6786 because as i sad... Everyone has a choice and personal opinion! If i want to compare some tools and make some TH-cam reviews i will do that, but i have some other stuff to do and i dont care really....
So... use your tools and try to convince yourself that you are enjoying more this cheap china s...t, than the premium quality tool and it will be fine 😁
Chears!
this was ********************* amazing!! mega thanks!!!!
No worries I'm glad it helped! You won't be disappointed when you buy them 👍
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop if you are taking thanks for widening the knowledge of companies such as Banggood, can I ask why you bookmarked the reply by pjmcc1uk?
Our future generations may look back on a video like this one and condemn it as the slave trade was condemned. Maybe.
Is it ok for manufacturing prices to be reduced by producing products in lower standard of living country’s? I would say yes. As long as it benefits the people in that country. But China? I am not convinced the people are benefiting anything. Only the Chinese government.
Also, if the Chinese manufacturer is actually copying the product from Woodpeckers, which by all appearances they are, then shame on the people that help them continue in that crime.
Apparently people like yourself who are even producing a prophet through stolen ideas.
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5-10 minute videos... erm
No US prices? Bye
I know it's incredibly hard to believe, but the world doesn't revolve around Duhmerica.
@@adrianmack3 Not hard to believe except that is why I tuned in.
@@adrianmack3 Think again.
You can’t roughly convert Pounds to US? Seriously. I’m converting in my head roughly Pounds to Ozzie $, it’s not hard.
You watched a video from a chap in the UK and expected US pricing? Hillbilly!