I imagined the trees loving the CO2 shower each time a locomotive passes underneath. You know we are just converting carbon which is hard for plants to use into the dioxide which is perfect plant food!
That shot starting at 1:35 climbing the grade at notch 8 is probably the best I've ever seen, especially when there right under the trees blowing all those branches up from the exhaust is awesome!
Different strokes for different folks. I don’t dislike the modern ge prime mover sound, just not as good as the emds. But yeah, old ges and Alcos sound really nice too, especially when the ges whoop!
Cory McDermott I am 33 years old and when I was 14 I got the chance to play around and shift some cars with a csx gp38-2 at the rail yard in Corbin KY... I thought I was king of world especially that being my favorite locomotive
Ya, right. Haul a train that size designed for 6 units with four and pull the guts out of them. No wonder railroads are failing. They are trying to do twice as much with half the effort.
I love trains..... back in the mid 60s i used to jump on the southbound Illinois Central car transporter and ride from Rockford all the way to St.Louis and then hitchhike the rest of the way home to Memphis. i don't think kids today could get away with it like we did.Good Memories ✌
Miss the 'old days' when trains had cabooses and the most (except a very few parasites) people had respect for property which wasn't theirs. Businesses didn't have to put guards over, or completely board up, windows to prevent azzwipes from breaking windows, and vermin didn't go around defacing property. I've had the clueless respond that they are 'only railcars'. Oddly enough, when I asked if they would be upset if I spray painted their vehicles, they were unanimously opposed -- but still didn't see the issue when it came to other's property. And some of these loons may hold public office and come up with goofy policies like some of the Da's, prosecutors, and judges of the chitholes where other crimes are now condoned.
Sweet footage, love that GP38 running hard among the SD-40’s. It’s got that little extra bark to the exhaust without the turbo muffling it…. and little more smoke.
The enormous cloud was from the traction motor blowers not the sanders. Hence why if you look at the front of #3473 the leaves being ejected away are only being blown as it's lead axles pass over them and not from the actual front of the unit. The traction motor blowers on trailing unit #5625 were venting pretty aggressively downward kicking up the cloud. Foamers seem to think units dump truck loads of sand into enormous sand storm like clouds and it couldn't be farther from the truth. Most wouldn't even take notice of the sanders being on in the first place due to units spraying such a fine light deposit. The sand (most often being granite crushed into 1mm x 1mm razor sharp cubes) stays close to the ground even when airborne. Look at axle 6 of NS #3489 around the 3:25 mark and you'll see the faint cloud of sand from it's rear truck sander. Ironically axle 6 on #3470 is doing the same thing. No part of the engineers that design the units nor our mechanical/electrical departments would want or allow huge clouds of abrasive sand being blown/sucked into the units. It's just going to cause problems. Hopefully that clarifies things. -Almost 18 and a half years of working for UP (scary as that is to think about...).
Holy shit now that’s what I call a dayym EMD notch 8 PULL video. He was blowing the whole line off not like all the fake notch 8 actually notch 3 videos people ewww and ahhhh to. Great stuff man
NS seems to like running trains the old way, heaping those EMDs on the front. Most railroads nowadays just stick a few GEVOs and Dash 9s on the front, and sometimes an extra one or two on the back if needed.
Beginning about 1:40, I thought when the train was moving the two bottom lights on the left and right side of the front were supposed to be blinking back and forth. What up with that?
they go into wig-wag mode when the horn is sounded. otherwise they are fixed to On in Hi or Lo settings. I forget if they can be manually toggled to wig-wag mode.
Here I’m spooled up deep. Running a fiat Alice tug boat engine with full inter axel wheel lock deployment and sand spreader. About 850,000 tracktive drive to dah rail. Let’s puuuuuuuuuuuull
Thanks for taking the video away from those hideous sounding crossings and the requisite horn blasting. Nothing worse than having that wonderful sound of EMD prime movers drowned out by the horns and that annoying "ding ding ding" of crossing signals. Especially the electronic ones.
The enormous cloud was from the traction motor blowers not the sanders. Hence why if you look at the front of #3473 the leaves being ejected away are only being blown as it's lead axles pass over them and not from the actual front of the unit. The traction motor blowers on trailing unit #5625 were venting pretty aggressively downward kicking up the cloud. Foamers seem to think units dump truck loads of sand into enormous sand storm like clouds and it couldn't be farther from the truth. Most wouldn't even take notice of the sanders being on in the first place due to units spraying such a fine light deposit. The sand (most often being granite crushed into 1mm x 1mm razor sharp cubes) stays close to the ground even when airborne. Look at axle 6 of NS #3489 around the 3:25 mark and you'll see the faint cloud of sand from it's rear truck sander. Ironically axle 6 on #3470 is doing the same thing. No part of the engineers that design the units nor our mechanical/electrical departments would want or allow huge clouds of abrasive sand being blown/sucked into the units. It's just going to cause problems. Hopefully that clarifies things. -Almost 18 and a half years of working for UP (scary as that is to think about...).
dan meyer They do not run this train anymore, its now rerouted around the mountain instead of over it via rhe Sunbury line. I do not know its new symbol.
That would make the train less efficient to break up. There is also no tractive effort advantages with using DPUs instead of grouping the same 4 engines together. Tractive effort pulls trains, and the couplers are built to handle it.
@@30yrsengr41 Thanks. Just did some searches, for American diesel-electric locomotives, there are rubber tubes pass the air from the fan on locomotive frame to traction motor.
The head-on footage of them passing under the trees in the S curve was awesome!
I agree! I loved how they were blowing the leaves
I imagined the trees loving the CO2 shower each time a locomotive passes underneath. You know we are just converting carbon which is hard for plants to use into the dioxide which is perfect plant food!
Yep
That shot starting at 1:35 climbing the grade at notch 8 is probably the best I've ever seen, especially when there right under the trees blowing all those branches up from the exhaust is awesome!
The sound and the fury of EMD's raging in Run 8. Matchless.
Try having a 8 pack of them screaming notch 8
Or try having a 10 pack screaming notch 8
Those's Emd's are pulling very hard love the dust and leaves flying up.
Man, that sound takes me back to the days listening to the Bessemer and Lake Erie's worn out SD38's shrieking at notch 8 up a grade...
Nothing sounds better than the non turbo sound of the 38-2. I grew up listening to the BLE cousins on the EJ&E
If only modern ges sounded like this. You can’t beat that classic emd sound!
Naw alcos sound best
not so sure about that... the GEs and alcos have a VERY distinct sound... LOTTA folks love those GEs/alco sound
Different strokes for different folks. I don’t dislike the modern ge prime mover sound, just not as good as the emds. But yeah, old ges and Alcos sound really nice too, especially when the ges whoop!
@@PC10.8 yes that Is true
I like them both, but the SD40-2 is maybe my favorite diesel electric locomotive. Looks cool, sounds cool, is a beast.
My Grandfather let me run one of CSXs EMDs years ago, with him. Such an amazing feeling.
Cory McDermott I am 33 years old and when I was 14 I got the chance to play around and shift some cars with a csx gp38-2 at the rail yard in Corbin KY... I thought I was king of world especially that being my favorite locomotive
Wow...Norfolk Southern really knows how to take care of these locomotives. They look brand new despite their age!
Nothing says "class" like mismatched number boards, I agree. ;)
Ya, right. Haul a train that size designed for 6 units with four and pull the guts out of them. No wonder railroads are failing. They are trying to do twice as much with half the effort.
They do look pretty good for their age.
@@jrcrawford4This isn't a train game
EMD, the Undisputed Diesel Kings and Queens of the High Iron in My Books
Nothing will surpass a BLW. Most will outperform modern 6 axles.
Although not the most powerful loco's , I love the sound of those EMD GP-40s and the SD-40s and 50s
I love trains.....
back in the mid 60s i used to jump on the southbound Illinois Central car transporter and ride from Rockford all the way to St.Louis and then hitchhike the rest of the way home to Memphis. i don't think kids today could get away with it like we did.Good Memories ✌
As a teen now I am so jealous.....sounds like pure joy
They wouldn't even know where the tracks go to...
Wow very cool and kinda cool to see the leaves get blow back from the blowers trying to cool down the traction motors
Locomotives on a steep grade are awe inspiring! Great catch
That emd roar i love it!
Thank you! I agree!
conrail guy whats engine is your profile picture
Who knew a nose-headlight SD40-2 would look so damn good. I've never seen one before this video and wow I wish they were all like that
Beautiful catches, thanks for going out and getting them. Imagine railfanning in the 1980's when every train was like this, I can only dream.
Miss the 'old days' when trains had cabooses and the most (except a very few parasites) people had respect for property which wasn't theirs. Businesses didn't have to put guards over, or completely board up, windows to prevent azzwipes from breaking windows, and vermin didn't go around defacing property. I've had the clueless respond that they are 'only railcars'. Oddly enough, when I asked if they would be upset if I spray painted their vehicles, they were unanimously opposed -- but still didn't see the issue when it came to other's property. And some of these loons may hold public office and come up with goofy policies like some of the Da's, prosecutors, and judges of the chitholes where other crimes are now condoned.
Don't have to dream...I was born in the 80s and always loved trains. This just brings back the nostalgia of when trains were trains.
Sweet footage, love that GP38 running hard among the SD-40’s.
It’s got that little extra bark to the exhaust without the turbo muffling it…. and little more smoke.
Yes, that’s a real locomotive. Not as much soot as a steamer, but enough.
They did an amazing job - 51 cars up the grade . Still going strong.
OOOOff!What a show.Good to see the railroads are alive and well.May they always be.....
I can watch this all day . Trains coming around corners and belching exhaust out.
Anymore ?
Just wait till the fossil fuel fruitcakes wanna make'em battery powered LOL🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. But yeah it's definitely a wonder to behold. 👊👊🤙🤙👍👍✌✌
That wasn't the traction motors smoking it was actually the sand being applied for traction to make it up the grade.
The enormous cloud was from the traction motor blowers not the sanders. Hence why if you look at the front of #3473 the leaves being ejected away are only being blown as it's lead axles pass over them and not from the actual front of the unit. The traction motor blowers on trailing unit #5625 were venting pretty aggressively downward kicking up the cloud. Foamers seem to think units dump truck loads of sand into enormous sand storm like clouds and it couldn't be farther from the truth. Most wouldn't even take notice of the sanders being on in the first place due to units spraying such a fine light deposit. The sand (most often being granite crushed into 1mm x 1mm razor sharp cubes) stays close to the ground even when airborne. Look at axle 6 of NS #3489 around the 3:25 mark and you'll see the faint cloud of sand from it's rear truck sander. Ironically axle 6 on #3470 is doing the same thing. No part of the engineers that design the units nor our mechanical/electrical departments would want or allow huge clouds of abrasive sand being blown/sucked into the units. It's just going to cause problems. Hopefully that clarifies things.
-Almost 18 and a half years of working for UP (scary as that is to think about...).
@@Henry5623 Great to know you were involved with EMDs...are these two stroke engines, 16 Pistons, V arrangement??
@@arbjful yes correct but not like motorbike two strokes tho
@@Henry5623 So the traction motors get that hot they smoke? I suppose muck and collected grease then burns off?
isn't review that high a waste of energy???
Beautiful engines. Wonderful video. Joe
Us boys love the big toys. I'll stop to watch big boats big excavators big trains. I think its the sound im bloody sure of it. Thanks great shots
Those EMD'S are the work horses of the rails
Amazing video! Fantastic cinematography and outstanding audio.
I wonder how much current is going to each axle. It'd be neat to see the gauge in the cockpit.
Very nice. Definitely sanders, that unmistakable sand crunch sound is a good tell. Very cool indeed, thanks.
If that is sand as you say, why not from the lead locomotive?
Maybe it's out.
Traction motor blower is kicking up alot of dust, leaves ect...
@@RWMorgan39 I noticed that as well, had not ever seen that before. Then again rail tracks around here don't have leaves on them.
I would say that 2nd unit is out of sand
Totally amazing Power! Great video. love it
One of my favorite train vids!
The SD70's take the cake for shear power...
Yes sir!!!
2:17
Heaven train approaches
Awesome show from those EMD units! Great video!
I'm a train and I approve this video choo choo!
This + For Whom The Bell Tolls = AWESOMENESS
Great hustle to capture those shots! Thanks.
Superb shots ! 👍🏻
I understand now how much locomotives suffer in Peru climbing 4.56% grades! :O nice videos!! greetings
Bob P - try 11,000 horse power. Three SD-40's is 9,000 plus the 2,000 of the 38.
Great scenery-great video!
Beautiful video!
Pretty cool -- thanks for showing!
Thanks for the map! I've been planning a trip up that way for awhile!
No problem!
Beautiful training. Cheers!
Beautiful sound!
Great work
WOW!!!!
this is a fantastic video! Thumbs UP!!!! Kind regards
EMD big power machine 💪💪💪
Pretty cool to see the lights on the nose 👍
I have to go on TH-cam to get my fix of mountain railroading cause... well, we ain't GOT no mountains in Lincoln, Nebraska! :(
No but you do have 10 mile long trains.🤣
That ain't nothing, Fred Flintstone built a house out of a rock!
Great point!
Awesome!!!! Excellent video.
Thank You!
Enjoy the work you are doing, will achieve your goal, Good video
Holy shit now that’s what I call a dayym EMD notch 8 PULL video. He was blowing the whole line off not like all the fake notch 8 actually notch 3 videos people ewww and ahhhh to. Great stuff man
@ 2:10... that alone gives this vid a thumbs up... AND the cameraman DID NOT flinch... now that's a cameraman
Originally Delaware, Lackawanna & Western trackage.
Great video! Why don't they split up their power there?
Always enjoy your videos.
Thank you Wes! I'm flattered!
Looks like units one and two were getting really hot. The smoke was getting blue and there was a lot of smoke coming from the traction motors.
That was smoke from an exhaust leak. The blowers get the cooling air from inside the carbody, which is usually plenty clean.
Jesus.... that GP40 is part earth mover!
SD40
At 2:10, anyone know what that smoke is?
2:17 is that smoke coming from that second sd40-2?
He was like I’m getting up this grad!
Ahh, like it used to be before Wide-Cab "Computers" !!! : D
NS seems to like running trains the old way, heaping those EMDs on the front. Most railroads nowadays just stick a few GEVOs and Dash 9s on the front, and sometimes an extra one or two on the back if needed.
Anybody else getting Unstoppable vibes at 2:15
Beginning about 1:40, I thought when the train was moving the two bottom lights on the left and right side of the front were supposed to be blinking back and forth. What up with that?
they go into wig-wag mode when the horn is sounded. otherwise they are fixed to On in Hi or Lo settings.
I forget if they can be manually toggled to wig-wag mode.
perfect example from this time stamp forward:
th-cam.com/video/IytPZwqbDSM/w-d-xo.html
Here I’m spooled up deep. Running a fiat Alice tug boat engine with full inter axel wheel lock deployment and sand spreader. About 850,000 tracktive drive to dah rail. Let’s puuuuuuuuuuuull
Anyone else notice that 3473 DOES NOT have a cab mounted headlight? That's a rarity on the NS roster!
Ex BN unit possibly
Nicely done. I live nearby. Thanx. 👍👍
Excellent one !!!!!
5625 having a cooling system issue?
warp 8 ? ☺️
Thanks for taking the video away from those hideous sounding crossings and the requisite horn blasting. Nothing worse than having that wonderful sound of EMD prime movers drowned out by the horns and that annoying "ding ding ding" of crossing signals. Especially the electronic ones.
seabulls69 at least wayside horns aren’t standard on all crossings...
Exactly! I hate e bells! Mechanical bells for life!
I honestly think the horns are the cherry on top for these older engines whether they are at a Crossing or not.
The horns are beautiful, better than the engine sound, but I agree that the crossings bells are kinda annoying.
Unmistakeable sound of EMD"S in notch 8,,very nice catch!!👍👍
Dave Blakeney thank you sir!
You got like 14,000 HP working here? 👍👍 I live nearby too. :)
SD40”s are 3000hp each and GP38-2 are 2000hp
of all the units i have ever run thes are my fav lot of power there
Absolutely love the sand clouds
Thanks Norfolk7130, you are really really really really cool
I'm being a TH-cam expert (forgive me I can't resist):
No it's traction motor smoke, when are you morons going to learn ?? Unbelieveable! So stupid !!
The enormous cloud was from the traction motor blowers not the sanders. Hence why if you look at the front of #3473 the leaves being ejected away are only being blown as it's lead axles pass over them and not from the actual front of the unit. The traction motor blowers on trailing unit #5625 were venting pretty aggressively downward kicking up the cloud. Foamers seem to think units dump truck loads of sand into enormous sand storm like clouds and it couldn't be farther from the truth. Most wouldn't even take notice of the sanders being on in the first place due to units spraying such a fine light deposit. The sand (most often being granite crushed into 1mm x 1mm razor sharp cubes) stays close to the ground even when airborne. Look at axle 6 of NS #3489 around the 3:25 mark and you'll see the faint cloud of sand from it's rear truck sander. Ironically axle 6 on #3470 is doing the same thing. No part of the engineers that design the units nor our mechanical/electrical departments would want or allow huge clouds of abrasive sand being blown/sucked into the units. It's just going to cause problems. Hopefully that clarifies things.
-Almost 18 and a half years of working for UP (scary as that is to think about...).
@@ThePaulv12 Pot meet kettle...
Was that a burning traction motor?
Awesome sound shows
Awesome sounding video.
Thank You!
An awful lot of smoke seems to be coming from a traction motor on unit 2. That's not normal.
Those are some clean engines.
@1:45 absolutely beautiful
So if I’m correct, I count 8,000+ horsepower?
11,000 hp.
How often they run on this line?
dan meyer They do not run this train anymore, its now rerouted around the mountain instead of over it via rhe Sunbury line. I do not know its new symbol.
Such a cool sound !
Great job 👍👍👍👍👍
“Engines have Soot! Awesome!”
Great video ☺️👍
Great footage. Although I hate the ex BN nose headlight units, I'll take veteran EMDs any day over wide cab GEs...
Nice catch as NS moved this interchange to Scranton about 2 weeks later and this train is no more.
Question: Wouldn’t it have been smarter to have two locos on the front and two on the back? That way there is an equal amount of pulling/pushing force
That would make the train less efficient to break up. There is also no tractive effort advantages with using DPUs instead of grouping the same 4 engines together. Tractive effort pulls trains, and the couplers are built to handle it.
Big boy railroading right there.
Wonder why all that smoke / dust was coming from the second unit only
sander was open for traction...crushed sand dust.
Great vídeo
Awesome video catch. Martin's Creek would be a fantastic spot for some old steam to roll up through!
Does traction motors or bogie have fan to cool down the motor?
Tom Smith ,yes air is blown onto them
@@30yrsengr41 Thanks. Just did some searches, for American diesel-electric locomotives, there are rubber tubes pass the air from the fan on locomotive frame to traction motor.
Nice catch
The 1st and last 2 have the same number sequence
This is where the sd45s are known for doing. Run like a racehorse and drag like a mule!