Everything is in favor of Rafale expect the per hour cost. IAF has long experience in operating French aircrafts, so that will be an added bonus. Shifting production line to India would be a game changer for the economy. More orders after this 110 from other customers will also follow through. Although all these promises of ToT are just for names sake whether it's USA or Russia or France. Unit cost can still be perfectly justified for reasons like 14 hard points, 1852km of combat radius, nuclear capable, Spectra, Meteor, Scalp, towed decoy, very high availability percentage etc. Moreover Rafale has been heavily used in different combat theaters and successful and only F/A 18 shares the same operational experience. Next important thing is the French offer to revive the Kaveri project and the assistance to develop another new engine from scratch. IAF has to somehow figure out a way to reduce the hourly operating cost. Also Indian Navy needs 57 fighter jets and the plan should be to keep similarity in the platforms to take advantage by sharing the usage of the several facilitating infrastructure. Navy might go for Rafale F4. And this would be the last foreign fighter purchase for Navy too.
Not for the next 10years Rafale production line isn't moving to India. French have only recently started work on F4 version(Indian version is F3R) which will enter production in 2023-24. Jets will be produced for the next 5-6 years, 2028-29. Only after that, production line can be moved to India and it'll take around 4-5yrs to dismantle the line in France and setting it up in India, 2033-34. It would be pretty worthless during that time, this entire exercise.
@@subarnosinha8042 The way things are shaping up it is more and more looking like none of the aircrafts in the MMRCA 2.0 & MRCBF deals are suiting india's purpose and future requirements completely. My heart always said that all the funds and effort should go completely towards the development of KAVERY engine, Tejas 1A, 2, TEDBF, and AMCA. But again the head rings an alarm bell which says that the squadron size is fast deleting, so we need to buy something on a fast track. Still I would vouch for the indigenous platforms any day any time.
@@debajyotidutta6795 precisely. Indigenous tech development is the way forward. For Indian Armed Forces' future's sake, I hope these tenders are the last tenders for foreign import.
@@subarnosinha8042 IAF had already publicly declared in early 2019 during BSD's tenure in a press interview, that for IAF it is last foreign combat aircraft purchase for India. The fleet of support aircraft looks good for now. By the time they'll retire I'm sure NAL, HAL and some private player will develop an Indian aircraft for that. The only challenge is the jet engine. Our scientists can still get around 10 years of breathing space to crack that. The SARAS aircraft from NAL is very promising and is just the beginning. In the helicopter domain we have already on the path of self reliance in terms of design, development, features, performance etc. The only challenge is HAL's production line. That can pushed. For IN, they have always been the champion of indigenization for decades. So unless it is a geopolitical equation, like in case of the 2 frigates from Russia or a complete lack of indigenous technology like in case of SSK submarines or naval guns, or missile systems or 'signal' systems IN will always want Indian stuff and Indian stuff only. It helps them to maintain the very critical aspect, which is 'control on their systems'. That is why few foreign vendors have backed out of strategic partnership model for the SSKs. For IA, which has been the major playground of the firangi touts and their Indian slaves, the tide is slowly changing. ARJUN M1A, ULH from Kalyani, Tata-Kestrel WhAP, sniper rifles from SS, bulletproof vests, new assault rifles from the OFBs... are just the beginning and very promising one.
@@rajatdani619 you can not trust USA they have tendency to violate the clauses of contract for their even trivial benefit, I mean any point of time they may stop supply spare parts or weaponry
Bilkul sahi 110 rafale nd 57 fa18 Aur yahi hoga. Nahi to mmrca 2.0 cancle b ho sakta h nd 36 additional rafale ho sakta h baki paisa tejas 2 nd amca pe nd kaveri engine pe invest ho.
Very good analysis. I would support F18. Its price is reasonable, capabilities are good, maintenance and per hour flight costs are also okay. USA had been good with its delivery schedule also unlike Russia. It will also strengthen relationships with USA.
@A P see Rafael is already there..eurofighther was previously rejected by iaf in mmrca so there is least chance of its acceptance,fa18 is the best and less expensive than Rafael..it will diversify iaf fleet..
@A P I think our iaf officials r more experienced to decide..since mmrca 2 is still in process , Rafael and f-a18 r the two best aircrafts presently...even if iaf buys f15 from Japan is a good deal to maintain the strength till amca and Tejas mk2 r inducted
Is it possible for Rafale to have two engines of 90KN each for a combined power of 180KN so as to enhance top speed, support max weapon load, fuel carrying capacity and to supercruise.. Of course in the F4 upgrade.. What I mean to ask you is that, does its airframe support additional thrust?
Rafale is best option because it is advanced 4.5 generation,best with respect to latest advancements in fighter jets technology.In future we can improve Rafale technology and convert it to 4.9 generation.Capable to fight with 5 generation to 5.5 generation fighter planes.
Consultation from OEM of Jaguar aircrafts should be also done & if some modifications in core or blading can generate required thrust then it will be better as we won't have to scrap the existing engines. It will be quicker & more cost effective.
Amit Sir, I was waiting for this video for remaining point on difference between Mig 35 and Mig 29 UPG, but no word on that in this video. Let me know, when will you cover the remaining point/s.
One important point is that the production line of Dasault Rafael is not large in comparison to Boeing. Dasault would take 7 years for supply of 36 Rafael after the date of signing of contract, then how much time they would take for supply of 110. The depleting squadron strength of IAF should also be kept in mind particularly in view of increasing security threats posed by China. The delivery of weapon systems by US has been very fast as compared to France and Russia.
My suggestion is to get Rafael 36-72( even used f3 should be fine if we can for 50% cost along with help from France for Kaveri engine ) for the airforce and 36 fa18 for the navy both with spare parts indegenised . (Wishe list) Since USA is planning to stop production we can ask for assembly line in India so we can sell FA-18 to other countries, which will also help us maintaince cost cheaper. Same with Rafael if they agree to assembly line then we can add more Rafael’s to airforce. Long term (10+ year) plan should be to bring tejas mk2 (500+) for interception role and AMCA (100+) for air superiority role. Imports should be only so we can cover this period.
I feel Saab Jas Gripen is amazing, they are offering whatever tech they have, the engine is American but in terms of tech transfer no one is going to give engine tech, if we are able to localize line replaceable units and get tech for their gallium nitrate radar, it would be amazing. Also Gripen is a network centric fighter jet, being single engine it has low operating cost and faster serviceability, but the only catch is Tejas as a program should not be affected.
It's the same engine as Tejas mark 2 and amca, the engine will be made in India but the avionics is British which we will have to import. Having f18 for navy, Saab for the airforce will go hand in hand with our indigenous planes as they share the same engine.
Very good analysis..Other than what you mentioned about cost and strategy, another factor that would go in favor of FA-18 would be, to avoid being arm twisted by the French in future.
USA should move ahead by assurance that he will procure ND solve the mystery of Kaveri engine else provide a super fine engine that can fine tune up-to 175 KN of thrust in MMRCA 2.0 deal
Rafale bets the requirements.. its SPECTRA electronic warfare suit enhances the Stealth capabilities and Nuke carring capacity will help. Expense is the issue.
What ever fighters India choose but they must not repeat the same mistake of su 30mki TOT in mmrc 2.0 so without full TOT no use of buying fighters in large numbers if no TOT in mmrc 2.0 then fund fully & fast track for our indigenous engine Tejas mk2 & AMCA etc..! 👍
Rafale Jeet rahan hain MMRCA2.0 mein. Jaankaron k hisab se. Kyonki sirf 36 Rafale thik nahin hain India k safety k liye Aur aagey bhavishya k liye. I also believe in quality not in quantity.
My pick is 110 Rafales for IAF and 60 F-18 SH for Navy ... In such scenario Safran will help India in the Kaveri Engine core ToT ... This is very critical for India and AMCA ... Must have ...
Neither is Safran talking about engine tech transfer. Nobody does that. Even if it was India in place of France or USA, it won't do engine ToT. Developing a mature jet engine tech takes years and costs billions. ToT is easier said than done.
I think we should buy mig35 for IAF and SUPER HORNET for navy , because Rafales are getting older and France are giving us older version and we have to update it many times in the future with very high cost and we can't afford it's curret cost for 110 jets
The IAF already has a super maneuverable heavy payload jet in the form of Su-30MKI which are scheduled for heavy upgrades in engine and avionics department making it all the more capable. Moreover F/A-18 is a strike fighter jet, not an air superiority fighter and is being widely used as the primary aircraft across US Navy and USAF, who as we all know are not novices to this game. It occupies the sweet middle ground in terms of operating cost, purchase cost and maintenance. And if India is about to make every jet operated by the armed forces to be indigenous in origin in the future, then all we need is a capable low cost alternative for the time being. That extra money could be implemented in development of AMCA and LCA Mk II. So no point in going for an high priced jet just to fill the time gap until indigenous jets are operational.
@@debpratimdas4176 No use discussing it now.... As MMRCA 2.0 turned out to be nothing more than a Jumla. And our IAF is forced to buy 2nd hand Mig 29, instead of bleeding edge 4.5+ jets.
Lockheed Martin has reduced the cost of F-35 to 77 million USD, while Rafael is 80 million USD per unit what are your views about this ???? Btw loved your videos , big fan of yours. Jai Hind 🇮🇳 Vande matram 🇮🇳
Rafale is going to be the clear winner. There is no point in buying only 36 Rafale jets as it would be extremely expensive to maintain such a small fleet. Plus, going for any other fighter other than the Rafale is going to be a logistical nightmare. F/A-18 super hornet is a great jet but America ain't so trustworthy. Plus, US would not allow integration of nuclear weapons on the F/A-18 super hornet. We cannot integrate nuclear weapons on our Tejas because of presence of American engine.
Only Rafale,, unmatched deterrence,,no accident record,,war proven platform,,and our favourite brand Dassault turning point in Kargil war and hero of Balakot operation!🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Highest possibility is India going to choose Rafale inspite of comparatively high price... IAF has futuristic vision & Rafale fits in it... because of this India all ready paid for Indian specific customization in advance... No Airforce is spent on infrastructure.... training... weapons...only for 36 jets... There are chances with Rafale India can use indigenously developed weapons in it... And there was news that India might deal more 70 Rafale.... but IAF denied it completely..... Means may IAF choose 110 Rafale through Mmrca Deal.... SAFRAN deal for Engine development partnership is a part of this deal...that India may give sure signal to France... By choosing Rafale India also neutralize & balance geopolitics with Russia & US... Not Russian jet... Not USA jet... Chances of F/A-18 super hornet is more in new jet induction program for NAVY...
Rafale is definitely the best of the pick but price is a big concern. We also need to balance our relationship with USA. Therefore Choosing between F-18 and Rafale would be a big test for Indian government. And as the presenter rightly said you can’t get everything, you either have to spend more and get the best or spend lesser and chose a bit inferior fighter jet. May the best fighter win and help Indian Airforce. Jai Hind.
Jo bhi jet select ho .. only on one condition.. Complete ToT on every screw nuts bolts avionics sensors radars jammers Jet engines ejector seats obogs HMD Secure communication Channel logistics training n support. If this can not be done then Tejas MK2 mwf ko fastrack kiya jae. 400+ Tejas MK2 400+ GE 414 enhanced engines Navy ke liye 60 Gripen E with full ToT leliya jae.. Yahi Solution hai. Japan ke saath mil kar AMCA ka engine banaya jae.. Israel ke saath milkar Radar n Jammers Russia ke saath mil kar IRST. Multi pylon hard points is must.
I think india should go for rafale 78 and for navy 36 US super hor.18 .but I like india should purchase 36 - sukhoi 35 from russia also to balance strategic advantage as well as power.and focus on our own 5th or 6th fighter production.
Navy super hornet cost around 66 to 70 mn USD but rafale m cost around 130 mn USD. our navy has plan to buy 57 carrier fighters. It would be wise to buy super hornet block 3 at half price of rafale m (marine version). But airforce rafale f3r or f4 be a great choice.
Dassault Rafale F-18 and Gripen are my Favourites but Rafale or F-18 might win. Mig-35 can be purchased in a separate deal with Russia. Can't say about SU-35...? SU-35 is a superb fighter but only drawbacks are heavy maintenance cost and tech transfer.
Agr main IAF ka chief hota ya defence minister hota to main 110 Mig35 with a price tag of 50mn$ per aircraft (full TOT)=5500mn$ + 36 Rafale with a price tag of 94mn€ per aircraft (Limited TOT)=3500mn€ To iske baad humare pass Two front war k liye bht achi fighter fleet hogi.. by 2030 Su30mki super sukhoi= 272 MIG35 = 110 Rafale = 72 AMCA MK1 = 20 + Tejas IOC+FOC = 36 TEJAS MK1A = 83 TEJAS MWF = 20 + MIG29 UPG = 72 Mirage2000 = 40 + JAGUAR D-III = 72 + TOTAL IAF FIGHTER AIRCRAFT = 777 AMCA MK2 b agle 2 se 3 saal me production k liye tyaar ho jayega
F-35 is best options, if USA ready to trasfer technology.. it's 5th generation plane. it's horizontal landing will also helpful on ship landing... Also they hv reduce their prices in recent tm..
@@ritabhatta8330,we know they will not fully transfer technology but if we asked for thd , atleast they will ready to make sm parts under 'make in India' progm..
Dekhiye Russian mig35 50million dollar but after what .... we need 500 millions for upgrades Maintenance.... while Rafael and f18 both may be expensive but need low maintenance...... su30 me hum dekh chuke hai wo updates sell krne ke baad deta hai....
Rafale is very expensive in terms of operational cost. India needs single engine and Jas gripen is the best as india can negotiate the best deal out there....
Shall go for fa18 ... rafale is very dearer ! I think Fa18 is a backbone of USAF ... This jet is not only offering us jets but also promising us better avenues of indo-us defense relationship. .if could buy 100 of these jets they could help us in development of our own jet engine for AMCA ...
My Vote For Rafale and I want to see a 5th generation Multirole Jet with Indigenously made,designed,built and Combat effective.. before i Reach my 30's..☺️
India ko MMRCA-2 Mai super hornets purchase Karna Chahiya. Rafael's are too expensive both purchase and operation wise, but India's has already spent on infrastructure and training for 36 rafaels so it makes sense to purchase 36 more under followup order clause. Last but very important India will retire 350-400 old fighters viz Mig-21, Jaguars, mirage-2000, Mig-27 in next 10-12 years so to make up shortfall in numbers India should buy around 100 Mig-35 with information clause under Govt to Govt deal.
Whoever gives maximum TOT ..like Engine technology etc should be choosen...Fa18 SH could be good as it can deployed in Navy's Aircraft carrier....Rafale is costly...Quality is good but But cannot hv Quantity....We need Quantity also....Mig 35 can be good if they give us Engine technology otherwise, Russia always hv spare parts & maintenance problem.......
MMRCA2.0 is waste of money and time. Please don't waste another 10 years of drama. World is laughing at us. Buying from aborad will never ever protect India. If that money is invested for engine research and MWF, AMCA, india will be self-reliant on aircraft technology in another 10-20 years.
Your patriotism is appreciable. But indigenous aircrafts, atleast those which occupy the middle weight and the heavy weight or even 5th gen capabilities are no where near production even in the next 10-15 years. Proper deployment is another matter altogether. Meanwhile the existing jets like Mig-27, Jaguar, Mig-29K are getting outdated and nearing the end of their lives by the minute. So what is India supposed to do for the time being? Lie between two hostile nations, one of which is a major world power helpless and defenseless? Purchasing forgein tech is not A choice but the ONLY choice for the time being.
single engine or double engine? Tejas is still up in the air another 10 years away even before it matches mig21 in terms of capability (potency), lets not talk about that...
@@kaushalthaker2622 EA18 is an Eelectronic attack air craft, its having sufficient range to deal with pakistan. For chinese, none of the aircraft in mmrca2 competition have sufficient range. You need su34s to deliver load on mainland china.
Rafale is my Pick
Hope the offsets are cleared, Saffran helps our GTRE Kaveri Engine fully operational with all drawbacks
I agree
But drdo not ready for offsets in kaveri engine
@@dhirajsharma663 they will.. But for that govt. Need to slap there ass a little 😂😂
Rafale is good but it's speed is not much despite of high cost.....
@@abhisheksrivastava4236 but huge and deadly maneuvers can do..... nd best in dogfight .....
Everything is in favor of Rafale expect the per hour cost.
IAF has long experience in operating French aircrafts, so that will be an added bonus.
Shifting production line to India would be a game changer for the economy. More orders after this 110 from other customers will also follow through.
Although all these promises of ToT are just for names sake whether it's USA or Russia or France.
Unit cost can still be perfectly justified for reasons like 14 hard points, 1852km of combat radius, nuclear capable, Spectra, Meteor, Scalp, towed decoy, very high availability percentage etc.
Moreover Rafale has been heavily used in different combat theaters and successful and only F/A 18 shares the same operational experience.
Next important thing is the French offer to revive the Kaveri project and the assistance to develop another new engine from scratch.
IAF has to somehow figure out a way to reduce the hourly operating cost.
Also Indian Navy needs 57 fighter jets and the plan should be to keep similarity in the platforms to take advantage by sharing the usage of the several facilitating infrastructure.
Navy might go for Rafale F4. And this would be the last foreign fighter purchase for Navy too.
Not for the next 10years Rafale production line isn't moving to India. French have only recently started work on F4 version(Indian version is F3R) which will enter production in 2023-24. Jets will be produced for the next 5-6 years, 2028-29. Only after that, production line can be moved to India and it'll take around 4-5yrs to dismantle the line in France and setting it up in India, 2033-34. It would be pretty worthless during that time, this entire exercise.
@@subarnosinha8042 The way things are shaping up it is more and more looking like none of the aircrafts in the MMRCA 2.0 & MRCBF deals are suiting india's purpose and future requirements completely. My heart always said that all the funds and effort should go completely towards the development of KAVERY engine, Tejas 1A, 2, TEDBF, and AMCA.
But again the head rings an alarm bell which says that the squadron size is fast deleting, so we need to buy something on a fast track.
Still I would vouch for the indigenous platforms any day any time.
@@debajyotidutta6795 precisely. Indigenous tech development is the way forward. For Indian Armed Forces' future's sake, I hope these tenders are the last tenders for foreign import.
@@subarnosinha8042 IAF had already publicly declared in early 2019 during BSD's tenure in a press interview, that for IAF it is last foreign combat aircraft purchase for India. The fleet of support aircraft looks good for now. By the time they'll retire I'm sure NAL, HAL and some private player will develop an Indian aircraft for that.
The only challenge is the jet engine. Our scientists can still get around 10 years of breathing space to crack that. The SARAS aircraft from NAL is very promising and is just the beginning.
In the helicopter domain we have already on the path of self reliance in terms of design, development, features, performance etc. The only challenge is HAL's production line. That can pushed.
For IN, they have always been the champion of indigenization for decades. So unless it is a geopolitical equation, like in case of the 2 frigates from Russia or a complete lack of indigenous technology like in case of SSK submarines or naval guns, or missile systems or 'signal' systems IN will always want Indian stuff and Indian stuff only. It helps them to maintain the very critical aspect, which is 'control on their systems'. That is why few foreign vendors have backed out of strategic partnership model for the SSKs.
For IA, which has been the major playground of the firangi touts and their Indian slaves, the tide is slowly changing. ARJUN M1A, ULH from Kalyani, Tata-Kestrel WhAP, sniper rifles from SS, bulletproof vests, new assault rifles from the OFBs... are just the beginning and very promising one.
Good Analysis.My Vote goes to Rafale. It can carry Nuke, it carry heaviest load, it has Range & 4++ Technology.
Han to bhai kemat bhi to dekh or har time ladai nahi hoti!!
Peace time mai per hour operational cost vi to dekh!!
Is hisab se F18 best hai
@@rajatdani619 f 18 best ha cheap bhi ha flying cost bhi ha par usa ka sirf usa ki missiles use kr skte ha
@@rajatdani619 you can not trust USA they have tendency to violate the clauses of contract for their even trivial benefit, I mean any point of time they may stop supply spare parts or weaponry
bhai, 4++ generation hain, Technology nahi
@@anupsharma3592 exactly America is not trust worthy country they put sanctions
110 Rafale for Air Force and 57 hornet for Navy looks the most likely option
No 57 Rafael for navy too
Super hornet
Bilkul sahi 110 rafale nd 57 fa18
Aur yahi hoga.
Nahi to mmrca 2.0 cancle b ho sakta h nd 36 additional rafale ho sakta h baki paisa tejas 2 nd amca pe nd kaveri engine pe invest ho.
@@naveensingh3552 Boeing FA-18 Coming to Indian Navy Confirm. Its USA Internal lobbing for Indian Navy.
Hornet if they give TOT
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Rafale is expensive but it's surely worth it , way above than other fighters in this category
Way behind Typhoon in air to air performance
@@hrwedsash Nien did you not watch the video
@@hrwedsash way behind ? explain it please
Jai hind
@@hrwedsash 😂😂😂😂air to air kya hota h pata bhi hai??? Akele Meteor missile he kafi hai Rafale pe uske liye
Very good analysis.
I would support F18. Its price is reasonable, capabilities are good, maintenance and per hour flight costs are also okay. USA had been good with its delivery schedule also unlike Russia. It will also strengthen relationships with USA.
@A P Apache is also American
@A P see Rafael is already there..eurofighther was previously rejected by iaf in mmrca so there is least chance of its acceptance,fa18 is the best and less expensive than Rafael..it will diversify iaf fleet..
@A P I think our iaf officials r more experienced to decide..since mmrca 2 is still in process , Rafael and f-a18 r the two best aircrafts presently...even if iaf buys f15 from Japan is a good deal to maintain the strength till amca and Tejas mk2 r inducted
@A P USA kyu aisa krega? USA is our ally
And They will always support us in a war with China and Pakistan.
@A P Well said bro usa is not trust worthy country
But Mig-35 recently displayed some defects during an airshows where its wings were cracking.
Yes it's not combat proven Rafael is going to win again
@@shuv6695 Also do you know if there is going to be a separate Navy tender for 50 Jets? I have seen many interviews with hints towards it.
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Russian jets has always been with some technical issues
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We are going to use s400 , are american aircrafts compatible with s400?is fa18 superhornet a good option in this aspect?
Your Analysis is impeccable as always... 🙏
Is it possible for Rafale to have two engines of 90KN each for a combined power of 180KN so as to enhance top speed, support max weapon load, fuel carrying capacity and to supercruise.. Of course in the F4 upgrade..
What I mean to ask you is that, does its airframe support additional thrust?
Now that Boeing has offered F15E , is there any change in your analysis ?
Rafale is best option because it is advanced 4.5 generation,best with respect to latest advancements in fighter jets technology.In future we can improve Rafale technology and convert it to 4.9 generation.Capable to fight with 5 generation to 5.5 generation fighter planes.
Where has this deal reached and by when will the aircraft be finalised?
February 2020...
Ek news aya tha F-15EX ke bare me, ki mmrca2.0 me new add hua hai, is it correct?
we could also consider 20 or 25units of the best version fully loaded euro fighter typhoons.
engines wise
Pratt & Whitney and GE are good
how good are uk germany italy spain euro fighter specs? (only engine specs im asking).
Consultation from OEM of Jaguar aircrafts should be also done & if some modifications in core or blading can generate required thrust then it will be better as we won't have to scrap the existing engines. It will be quicker & more cost effective.
Without drop tanks what's the combat radius of curvature Rafale
Amit Sir, I was waiting for this video for remaining point on difference between Mig 35 and Mig 29 UPG, but no word on that in this video. Let me know, when will you cover the remaining point/s.
Please talk about new air refuelers that is offered to India by Boeing as KC30 Pegasus and Airbus A330 Mrtt. TIA
One important point is that the production line of Dasault Rafael is not large in comparison to Boeing. Dasault would take 7 years for supply of 36 Rafael after the date of signing of contract, then how much time they would take for supply of 110. The depleting squadron strength of IAF should also be kept in mind particularly in view of increasing security threats posed by China. The delivery of weapon systems by US has been very fast as compared to France and Russia.
Fantastic level of detail delivered in a fast efficient style.
Well done!!
My suggestion is to get Rafael 36-72( even used f3 should be fine if we can for 50% cost along with help from France for Kaveri engine ) for the airforce and 36 fa18 for the navy both with spare parts indegenised . (Wishe list) Since USA is planning to stop production we can ask for assembly line in India so we can sell FA-18 to other countries, which will also help us maintaince cost cheaper. Same with Rafael if they agree to assembly line then we can add more Rafael’s to airforce. Long term (10+ year) plan should be to bring tejas mk2 (500+) for interception role and AMCA (100+) for air superiority role. Imports should be only so we can cover this period.
Get 110 Grippen plus another 36 Rafael ( This might be same cost as 110 Rafael ) Rafael or F18 for Navy Then we focus on Tejas 2 and AMCA
I feel Saab Jas Gripen is amazing, they are offering whatever tech they have, the engine is American but in terms of tech transfer no one is going to give engine tech, if we are able to localize line replaceable units and get tech for their gallium nitrate radar, it would be amazing. Also Gripen is a network centric fighter jet, being single engine it has low operating cost and faster serviceability, but the only catch is Tejas as a program should not be affected.
It's the same engine as Tejas mark 2 and amca, the engine will be made in India but the avionics is British which we will have to import. Having f18 for navy, Saab for the airforce will go hand in hand with our indigenous planes as they share the same engine.
Very good analysis..Other than what you mentioned about cost and strategy, another factor that would go in favor of FA-18 would be, to avoid being arm twisted by the French in future.
USA should move ahead by assurance that he will procure ND solve the mystery of Kaveri engine else provide a super fine engine that can fine tune up-to 175 KN of thrust in MMRCA 2.0 deal
Yeah smile tho dedo....amit sir.....this milestone is earned with hard work ....u have millions to cover.....carry on.
Rafale bets the requirements.. its SPECTRA electronic warfare suit enhances the Stealth capabilities and Nuke carring capacity will help.
Expense is the issue.
We should either select f18 or Rafale while including Navy's tender also.
So that both the services can access same logistics and spares
Hey Amit, could you try to make a detailed video on the HTFE-25 and HTFE-40 anything what ADA/HAL has made public on that?
What ever fighters India choose but they must not repeat the same mistake of su 30mki TOT in mmrc 2.0 so without full TOT no use of buying fighters in large numbers if no TOT in mmrc 2.0 then fund fully & fast track for our indigenous engine Tejas mk2 & AMCA etc..! 👍
Rafale Jeet rahan hain MMRCA2.0 mein.
Jaankaron k hisab se.
Kyonki sirf 36 Rafale thik nahin hain India k safety k liye Aur aagey bhavishya k liye.
I also believe in quality not in quantity.
Make a video how these 3 platforms will perform if these are pitched against enemy fighters F16 block 52 , J10 ang j17
Sir Kaveri Engine kaab tak baan jayega
Is topic par video
Banao
When we get the first fighter of mmrca if it follows the timeline
Ye deal sign bhi hoga ki nahi? Jab tak ayega ye jets inhe baki desh retire krne lag jayenge sayaad.
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Rights bro
Attitude Is Everything true. That's the problem with Indian policy
On the other news, F-35 now costs $80 Million per unit
My pick is 110 Rafales for IAF and 60 F-18 SH for Navy ...
In such scenario Safran will help India in the Kaveri Engine core ToT ... This is very critical for India and AMCA ... Must have ...
So far the most impressive and in depth analysis on TH-cam. You r the best🤗
But GE will not transfer the engine technology whereas the safran can. Go with rafale
ge has long been (more than 20years) in india
they could do tech-transfer also albeit with few terms conditions.
Neither is Safran talking about engine tech transfer. Nobody does that. Even if it was India in place of France or USA, it won't do engine ToT. Developing a mature jet engine tech takes years and costs billions. ToT is easier said than done.
Sawal ye he ki ye competition or kitne sal chalega?
I think we should buy mig35 for IAF and SUPER HORNET for navy , because Rafales are getting older and France are giving us older version and we have to update it many times in the future with very high cost and we can't afford it's curret cost for 110 jets
Isn't Super Hornet much less maneuverable and agile than every other jet in your top 4 list..?
BVR is the future
The IAF already has a super maneuverable heavy payload jet in the form of Su-30MKI which are scheduled for heavy upgrades in engine and avionics department making it all the more capable. Moreover F/A-18 is a strike fighter jet, not an air superiority fighter and is being widely used as the primary aircraft across US Navy and USAF, who as we all know are not novices to this game. It occupies the sweet middle ground in terms of operating cost, purchase cost and maintenance. And if India is about to make every jet operated by the armed forces to be indigenous in origin in the future, then all we need is a capable low cost alternative for the time being. That extra money could be implemented in development of AMCA and LCA Mk II. So no point in going for an high priced jet just to fill the time gap until indigenous jets are operational.
@@debpratimdas4176 No use discussing it now.... As MMRCA 2.0 turned out to be nothing more than a Jumla. And our IAF is forced to buy 2nd hand Mig 29, instead of bleeding edge 4.5+ jets.
It's agility is good enough
Such A Detailed & Good Review !
Lockheed Martin has reduced the cost of F-35 to 77 million USD, while Rafael is 80 million USD per unit what are your views about this ???? Btw loved your videos , big fan of yours. Jai Hind 🇮🇳 Vande matram 🇮🇳
Defence Decode please reply When the selection of MMRCA 2.0 's winner will be selected?
In February 2020
@@I_am_580 why so late?
which indian company collaborate with Dassult aviation for make Rafael in India ?
Very nice and informative video. Very logical.
Bhai f-18 naval fighter hai woh air force fighter se kaha compete kar payega
Currently all fighters have drawback with valid reason for India . Rafale is expensive very expansive but we don't have any other options
Rafale is going to be the clear winner. There is no point in buying only 36 Rafale jets as it would be extremely expensive to maintain such a small fleet. Plus, going for any other fighter other than the Rafale is going to be a logistical nightmare. F/A-18 super hornet is a great jet but America ain't so trustworthy. Plus, US would not allow integration of nuclear weapons on the F/A-18 super hornet. We cannot integrate nuclear weapons on our Tejas because of presence of American engine.
Only Rafale,, unmatched deterrence,,no accident record,,war proven platform,,and our favourite brand Dassault turning point in Kargil war and hero of Balakot operation!🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Highest possibility is India going to choose Rafale inspite of comparatively high price...
IAF has futuristic vision & Rafale fits in it... because of this India all ready paid for Indian specific customization in advance...
No Airforce is spent on infrastructure.... training... weapons...only for 36 jets...
There are chances with Rafale India can use indigenously developed weapons in it...
And there was news that India might deal more 70 Rafale.... but IAF denied it completely.....
Means may IAF choose 110 Rafale through Mmrca Deal....
SAFRAN deal for Engine development partnership is a part of this deal...that India may give sure signal to France...
By choosing Rafale India also neutralize & balance geopolitics with Russia & US...
Not Russian jet...
Not USA jet...
Chances of F/A-18 super hornet is more in new jet induction program for NAVY...
Best, perfect and reliable defence news.....
Great.....
Super sukhoi bhi baan rahe hain upgrade hokar
I think that Rafael is 1st, 2nd is F-18 F/a and the third is 3rd is Mig-35 thanks.
Rafale is definitely the best of the pick but price is a big concern. We also need to balance our relationship with USA. Therefore Choosing between F-18 and Rafale would be a big test for Indian government. And as the presenter rightly said you can’t get everything, you either have to spend more and get the best or spend lesser and chose a bit inferior fighter jet. May the best fighter win and help Indian Airforce. Jai Hind.
Jo bhi jet select ho .. only on one condition..
Complete ToT on every screw nuts bolts avionics sensors radars jammers Jet engines ejector seats obogs HMD Secure communication Channel logistics training n support.
If this can not be done then Tejas MK2 mwf ko fastrack kiya jae.
400+ Tejas MK2
400+ GE 414 enhanced engines
Navy ke liye 60 Gripen E with full ToT leliya jae..
Yahi Solution hai.
Japan ke saath mil kar AMCA ka engine banaya jae..
Israel ke saath milkar Radar n Jammers
Russia ke saath mil kar IRST.
Multi pylon hard points is must.
Kiya rafel ki technology transfar hoga
Should go with whichever gives engine TOT or promises joint development of engines
USA won't give according to me Rafael is best.
Not one will we need to make our own engine
Rafel ya tooh FA 18 super hornet best hai Mmrca 2.O me...
1 sal ho gya mmrca 2.0 sunte sunte.
Kb final hoga
Next year February
Gripen E has a weapons suite similar to Rafale. Best data link, best sensor system and lowest per sortie cost. We must go for Gripen E.
Gripen e is single engine fighter jet
Sir intro music badal do please...video Thora neat aur clear kijiya please....is sa channel growth karega....logo ko Sahi aur advance info milaga.👍
I think india should go for rafale 78 and for navy 36 US super hor.18 .but I like india should purchase 36 - sukhoi 35 from russia also to balance strategic advantage as well as power.and focus on our own 5th or 6th fighter production.
Navy super hornet cost around 66 to 70 mn USD but rafale m cost around 130 mn USD. our navy has plan to buy 57 carrier fighters. It would be wise to buy super hornet block 3 at half price of rafale m (marine version). But airforce rafale f3r or f4 be a great choice.
Amit g aap superb kaam kar rahe ho all the best
Dassault Rafale F-18 and Gripen are my Favourites but Rafale or F-18 might win. Mig-35 can be purchased in a separate deal with Russia. Can't say about SU-35...? SU-35 is a superb fighter but only drawbacks are heavy maintenance cost and tech transfer.
Rafale may also help us to get SAFRAN engine technology for AMCA. The price is a changeable entity and can be managed. We should stick to Rafale.
Agr main IAF ka chief hota ya defence minister hota to main 110 Mig35 with a price tag of 50mn$ per aircraft (full TOT)=5500mn$
+
36 Rafale with a price tag of 94mn€ per aircraft (Limited TOT)=3500mn€
To iske baad humare pass Two front war k liye bht achi fighter fleet hogi..
by 2030
Su30mki super sukhoi= 272
MIG35 = 110
Rafale = 72
AMCA MK1 = 20 +
Tejas IOC+FOC = 36
TEJAS MK1A = 83
TEJAS MWF = 20 +
MIG29 UPG = 72
Mirage2000 = 40 +
JAGUAR D-III = 72 +
TOTAL IAF FIGHTER AIRCRAFT = 777
AMCA MK2 b agle 2 se 3 saal me production k liye tyaar ho jayega
Main problem he mig35 or other weapons ki dilivary bahut hi late he . Jab ki lokeed ki dilivary bahut fats he
FA18 is made by Boeing
FA - 18 Super Hornett is my Pick. It is good for Indian Air Force
From overall perspective FA18 Hornet
will be the good option.
Nice video. Real competition should be between Rafel and F/A 18 super hornet. Mig 35 should not be considered.
F-35 is best options, if USA ready to trasfer technology.. it's 5th generation plane. it's horizontal landing will also helpful on ship landing... Also they hv reduce their prices in recent tm..
Lol why do you all asume that anyone will give it's technology to you 😑
@@ritabhatta8330,we know they will not fully transfer technology but if we asked for thd , atleast they will ready to make sm parts under 'make in India' progm..
@@kewalbawa2298
Nope,US already denied helping India to build jet engine.
@@ritabhatta8330, it's ok.. we shud leave this topic to decide by indian govt.. if u wish,u can join me on my FB account..
Bhai recently I readed the news about pricedrop of f35
Ia there any possibility that india can take f35
R D we have got s400 so USA wont sell F35 to us.
@@sandeepshyam6365 india can be exceptiona
Dekhiye Russian mig35 50million dollar but after what .... we need 500 millions for upgrades Maintenance.... while Rafael and f18 both may be expensive but need low maintenance...... su30 me hum dekh chuke hai wo updates sell krne ke baad deta hai....
Bhai jo desh apni fighter jet engine tecnology transfer karega usko hi chunna chahiye.
Sir Ye btaiia Jb hmara pass nuclear submarine h To hum Russi se kyu le rha h🤔
Fantastic analysis......🎁👌
Bhai f18 Indian navy new aircraft vikrant ke li shi ha ku usa bi f18 aircraft ma use kr ta I think Rafael bater
Rafale is very expensive in terms of operational cost. India needs single engine and Jas gripen is the best as india can negotiate the best deal out there....
Final race will b between saab gripen & f a 18
Shall go for fa18 ... rafale is very dearer ! I think Fa18 is a backbone of USAF ... This jet is not only offering us jets but also promising us better avenues of indo-us defense relationship. .if could buy 100 of these jets they could help us in development of our own jet engine for AMCA ...
Us air force does not use a single fa-18 super hornet .all hornets are carrier based and used by us navy
@@mayanksharma3307 then why we are considering it anyway at first place ?
@@ashwingour6502 because that thing is a multirole flying machine
My Vote For Rafale and I want to see a 5th generation Multirole Jet with Indigenously made,designed,built and Combat effective.. before i Reach my 30's..☺️
India ko MMRCA-2 Mai super hornets purchase Karna Chahiya. Rafael's are too expensive both purchase and operation wise, but India's has already spent on infrastructure and training for 36 rafaels so it makes sense to purchase 36 more under followup order clause. Last but very important India will retire 350-400 old fighters viz Mig-21, Jaguars, mirage-2000, Mig-27 in next 10-12 years so to make up shortfall in numbers India should buy around 100 Mig-35 with information clause under Govt to Govt deal.
Ver nice Comparative analysis......
Even my thoughts are same on this......👍👍👍👍👍
Whoever gives maximum TOT ..like Engine technology etc should be choosen...Fa18 SH could be good as it can deployed in Navy's Aircraft carrier....Rafale is costly...Quality is good but But cannot hv Quantity....We need Quantity also....Mig 35 can be good if they give us Engine technology otherwise, Russia always hv spare parts & maintenance problem.......
Ye deal 2030 tak ho jayegi?
MMRCA2.0 is waste of money and time. Please don't waste another 10 years of drama. World is laughing at us. Buying from aborad will never ever protect India. If that money is invested for engine research and MWF, AMCA, india will be self-reliant on aircraft technology in another 10-20 years.
Yes best it is.
Your patriotism is appreciable. But indigenous aircrafts, atleast those which occupy the middle weight and the heavy weight or even 5th gen capabilities are no where near production even in the next 10-15 years. Proper deployment is another matter altogether. Meanwhile the existing jets like Mig-27, Jaguar, Mig-29K are getting outdated and nearing the end of their lives by the minute. So what is India supposed to do for the time being? Lie between two hostile nations, one of which is a major world power helpless and defenseless? Purchasing forgein tech is not A choice but the ONLY choice for the time being.
Buy 110 Rafale + 57 F18 hornet + 36 Mig-35
Budget jaaye bhad main... Defence strong karo desh ka...
🚩🚩 Vande Mataram 🚩🚩
Bewakoof !
What is proposed time line sir.
So does that mean the import lobbies win ?
Nah...twin engine selection won't gonna hurt Tejas mk2
Hum new f 15 E strike egale kyu nahi kharid rahe hai
Aapka review shandar h 🇮🇳🇮🇳👍
single engine or double engine? Tejas is still up in the air another 10 years away even before it matches mig21 in terms of capability (potency), lets not talk about that...
I dont find any problems in f18s, if they are ready to sell EA18growlers to us. Very potent force multiplier.
Range ( combat redius) is too low.
@@kaushalthaker2622 EA18 is an Eelectronic attack air craft, its having sufficient range to deal with pakistan. For chinese, none of the aircraft in mmrca2 competition have sufficient range. You need su34s to deliver load on mainland china.