Kahlil Hernández planned obsolescence is where they cut the lifespan or plan the hardware disintegration. My 2012 mbp still works flawlessly and smoothly 5 years later. Apple doesnt do planned obsolescence
it does what nearly everyone does: perceptive obsolescence. "new" features that should make your stuff more "useful", even though the "old" one still is fine.
Hasan 58 idk though dude, cause I bought a gaming pc in 2013 right, and yeah everyone says you can upgrade them. But if I upgrade the GPU now, it most likely won't be compatible with my CPU. And then I'd have to look at upgrading RAM too. Idk, it seems like I need to buy a new pc anyway to upgrade at this point.. p.s my MacBook Pro from 2012 still runs like butter
Evil Red it's the same for every product really. It's not limited to just Apple MacBooks. Phones, laptops, computer parts, etc. all can last a long time and there's no need to upgrade after a year.
Evil Red same with Dell XPS, so what is your point? It is a mature market, a computer that is all it is, what else do you want. It is the best laptop by far but too expensive for me.
Milos M not for most years. Most companies do incremental upgrades most years, and only a design overhaul or a big new feature once every few years. Take Apple, Samsung, HTC, LG, etc.
I think if you can find a base model non touch base model 2016 13in for ~1000 then it's a better buy than the 2017, especially if you don't need the graphics performance.
I honestly wish they kept mag safe and have the touchpad optional. otherwise it's a good editing product for Apple users. also I hope apple watches this. they need to listen to their consumers like you who are pretty regularly getting views and have constructive criticism for them.
TheFarzan1234 more laptops are yanked off the table by the charging cable, more laptops prematurely destroyed, more demands for replacements... $$$$$$$$$$$
D Ro I mean the Pi 3 is actually able to do what most users need, like web browsing and word processing. plus you can stream games with Luna for Nvidia Game Stream.
Subbed. I've been watching you for quite a while and I'm impressed with your channel. Regular videos and the editing omg! Everything from the nice comparison boards to the softly coloured backround to your calm voice. This guy nows how to make the viewer comfortable and that is why I subscribed. No waffling but instead on point objective reviews and from a lovely person. Thanks Dave! Your work is much appreciated.
You are one of my favorite TH-camrs man. Your honest and give just the right amount of information. I have a MacBook Pro and I still watch all your videos even though I do not plan on upgrading anytime soon. Thank you for the wonderful content sir!
In fact.. No. I know many people who have this in computer engineering, music creation, film-making (even using adobe's apps), programming, etc. So.. No.
Yucon People who buy Macbooks in my area are all fucking idiots who don't even know what an editing program is, especially the spoiled old kids in the university, while most who own Windows gaming laptops are actually smart, and they even know Macs are some overpriced crap.
AppleBud that is because the 2017 base model has a starting 128gb ssd which is slower than the 256gb, specially on the write speeds around 700mb. I habe the 2017 nTB 13" with 256gb i get 1.4mb write and 2.4mb read, pretty much the same as the 256gb model of 2016.
I'm looking to buy a macbook this year and yours have been the kind of videos i've been looking for! I'm so glad I got to your channel. Thank you so much, you're doing a great job!
Few weeks ago bought a refurb 13” 2016 with touch bar. Love it - give the touch bar a chance, trackpad is great being so big if you use the many great Apple gestures, and the keys truly grow on you. Just love the whole package and saved a bit with a refurb so no complaints.
If only they made a high end one without the touch bar, like Dave mentions. The touchbar has absolutely ruined my workflow and it hasn't improved after 6 months. It's a garbage innovation. The novelty wore off, quite seriously, in under 10 minutes.
dont forget to buy a LOT of dongle, for USB 3.0, SD card, thunderbolt, VGA, ect.. if I have to upgrade my MBP, I will choose MBP 2015,, the perfect macbook for the real world of productivity, not just fashion.. just watch the review "Why I returned my new macbook pro" on youtube..
DANNY ONLINE PLEASE do not waste your money on another MacBook. I am not a hater. I just want you to be aware that you can get better performance at a cheaper price.
ahmad uhuh, I'm sure he knows what works best for him. Before you even suggest the XPS 15 or the Hp Spectre x360, note that I have owned both, and they both had to be returned for unforgivable defects. But if we limit it to the XPS 15, I sealed with very audible coil whine, ghosting, an inaccurate touchpad, frequent crashes and other less important but still relevant issues. The viable alternative is a desktop in my opinion, but he's surely buying a laptop for a reason.
Great Video, but could you make more budget-tech videos? Especially XIAOMI or other high-quality, but cheap solutions. (For example the Mi Pad 3, which looks like a great iPad mini killer at a price point of only around $220, or the new Xiaomi Mi 6) I know you probably wont pay much attention to this but.. ehhh, would be great to see on your channel.
Dave, there is one touch of customization that I never seen you mention that actually matters for non-American buyers. Apple US website now gives you the option to customize your keyboard in almost any language you want. Personal example: I'm from Brazil and Apple products are so absurdly expensive in here that it is actually cheaper to book a promo flight to the US, buy a Macbook there and bring it home. I think this is the case as well for waves of tourists that visit Apple Stores in the US. It's lovely that now you can configure your MacBook on their website with your preferred keyboard layout and then set it for Store Pickup. It's something so simple that other companies like Dell, Asus and HP do not offer.
Kai Low Here in Canada if the laptops are similarly specced, they cost about the same. You get similar kabylake i5 dual core processors, 8GB of RAM, but the difference is in storage; the MacBook has 128GB whereas the surface laptop has 256GB. Frankly, here's how I see it. The Mac has a better display, great build quality and touchpad, and it's equipped with thunderbolt 3 USB-c. The Surface laptop has a touch screen display, more storage, less than ideal build quality with the alcantara strip, and a USB 3 + mini display port. If you're interested in what High Sierra will bring to developers and consumers alike such as official egpu support, I suggest the Mac. If you think storage will be an issue, remember cloud storage is a viable workaround, but if you need a lot of memory for the softwares you use, perhaps stick with the surface laptop. I think ultimately both are solid machines, so whichever you choose won't disappoint you hopefully.
The 13' base model benchmark shows a 10% increase. That's a lot, considering that's about how much performance increased from 2011's Sandy Bridge to 2015's Broadwell.
SteelRazorBlade // AdamSRB Not exactly since macs do offer best in class build quality, macOS and not bad performance tbh. If you game a lot then the answer would be *NO*, if you are on a 2016 model, it would be also a *NO*. If you are upgrading from like a 2010 or just want a Mac or you are looking for a well built laptop that looks great, then *SURE*
4,199.00$ .... Asus Rog with 17.3" Full HD screen,Intel i7-6700HQ,32GB RAM,2TB SATA SSD,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB. And still you will save about 700$.
at this point i don't care really for new products themselves I just enjoy watching u talk about tech. and I ended up with information haha dope stuff man :)
Fortunately I purchased the 2016 15" Pro very recently and it was still in the return period. So I was able to return it and get the new one, so shoutout to the Apple customer reps for that.
Thanks Dave - I was sort of bummed when Apple updated their hardware right after I purchased a new 2016 model of the Pro. Happy to know that there is very little difference!
I don't get these Macbook reviews,no hate Dave,but they are just plain useless. Should you buy one? Hell yes if you want to waste lots and lots of money for apple OS and nice build quality,but lack of proper components,and everyone knows this by now. If you are looking in a "normal" workflow laptop,you should just take a look at everything "non gamer", like the surface or some of Asus' laptops for everyday use,which have better components and are on the same build quality level as Apple for a lower price.
Macs are less prone to viruses, more simple, very reliable (hardware and software), and friendly to coding. Windows laptops are good too, but only the top tier ones where you have to shell nearly equal amounts of money such as the surface book. Cheaper laptops are a hit or miss. My greatest gripe is with windows 10 and the forced updates; bricked my rig once and had to format and reinstall my whole system
+Jack Black, I can say the same for the MacBooks.. I've had macOS crash/fail, the hardware can (and does) break just like on any other machine, etc. I think you hit the nail on the head with the price though. If you want quality, you're basically in a similar price point to the MacBook, aside from that, neither holds superiority - except to the proselytizers. I do prefer my MacBook Pro (and Linux) for development, but use PC's for almost everything else.
It just strikes a nerve with me when people don't like something only because of the price. Im not rich by any means but if you like something you'll save up and get it.
DopeSpill Comics Theres differnece between hating price and hating value. Macbooks or any apple device has less value. Just see MI 10 Ultra smartphone for now. Its expensive as iphone 8 I will say (or less). But see its value like itjust kills even iphone 11 or iphone 10 or samsungnote 20.. everything.. thats the part
Artsicle then don't buy one. Those who have the money and are willing to spend it, will and those who don't have it or aren't willing to spend it won't buy it. For those there are a plethora of other options which are decent too.
even though i strongly dislike apple, they do make user friendly products that are easy to use and dont break easily. Theyre also lightweight and good for certain activities. Overpriced just depends on how you use it
Find me a kabylake i5 laptop with a 1440p gloss display with 2+ usb-c/thunderbolt3 with an ssd for under $1300. Please. You can hardly build a hackintosh setup with the same specs for less if you include the monitor.
Dave it really interest me on how you make the rendering graphics in your videos like the one at 0:30 seconds. if you can tell me what software you use and how you learned it or even give every one a light review tutorial i believe a lot of us will appreciate it.
Thanks Dave! I am on a 2016 model and was really kicking myself for not waiting for the 2017 model. But this video definitely gives me peace of mind. You rock Dave!!!
Hey Dave, love your channel and have been watching a lot of your laptop videos. Never been a Mac fan, but my schooling may provide me with one when i re-enroll in college. This video has definitely been very informational, but is there anyway that when you do graphs (like the one you did for the 3 CPU speeds) that you could switch it to a more colorblind friendly scheme? I had to kind of guess which was which.
I bought the 2016 MBP 15 inch about 3 months back and don't regret it. I thought of waiting for this but needed an urgent upgrade. I'm really liking it so far and everything just works. I do occasionally feel like a should have bought Dell XPS 15 for it's cheaper price and to play PUBG but I don't know if I would have been comfortable with using Windows after years on a Mac.
Huge offer of 2016 refurbished models in refurb tracker... I usually get about one or two emails per day, but yesterday I got 75 emails with new refurb offers. Good for anyone wanting to upgrade on the "cheap"!
Dave, your graphs and animations are amazing, but you go trough the data and info sooo quickly, its tough to process everything or even a lot of it. Do you intentionally make shorter videos?
I'm mainly going to be buying a MacBook Pro 2017 for Logic Pro X. That is my primary reason for choosing a MacBook over any other type of PC. The software of MacBooks is hard to pass on. Especially, since I intend to upgrade to an iPhone later in the year. That aside, I am fine with the fact that the 2017 refresh isn't that different from the 2016 refresh. Granted, I don't have a MacBook that I am upgrading from, so I may be an oddity in that argument.
If you plan to watch 4K videos on a laptop, get a Kaby Lake. Not only for Netflix and their drm scheme, but the microcode and additional controller helps reduce throughput and optimize efficiency.
Nice video! I was an MBP 15 owner since they adopted Intel chips... until early this year. Switched to a Dell XPS 9560 and love it. The 4K screen is incredible and GTX 1050 performance is outstanding. I think build quality between the XPS and MBP is about equal these days. To be sure, I still love Macs. I also love my XPS. It's nice to have more choices when it comes to high-end laptops, now.
awesome video! how do you do those amazing animations? I know it's after effects or something similar, but how do you do them quickly enough to squeeze into your busy work schedule?
Will you do a review of the new HP Omen coming out late june/early july ? I'm looking forward to buying one this summer (The 17" one) Also, great video as always :3
I hear you always talking about how some keyboards are better than others and such. But what, for you, defines a good keyboard? I have troubles following along when you get too opinionated. What about the MacBook's keyboard that makes it so good? Is it how it feels when you press down, the texture of the keys them self, a satisfying click or snap perhaps? Please go a little more in depth and say exactly what makes them great. The video as a whole was spectacular though. I just love the way you do your edits and videos in general. Keep pumpin' them out :). Any pardon my memory I can't seem to remember but theres another laptop if I recall with a 1080 ti that's not the Zephyrus, it is around a cm thicker and had two foot things on the bottom of it to boost air flow. I just can't remember, but if you can, with the clues provided remember the name then tell me if you'll be doing a review if you get it. Or just tell me the name if you can. I just can't seem to find it. I think Linus did a video on it. Edit: The base model is $2,000 USD I think. Thanks!
You realize that the "speakers" AKA the grill on top doesn't house a front facing speaker, in fact its down at the bottom of the laptop. I call a placebo effect here!
i really like your reviews, have you done giveaways or sell some of the laptops you have review, i would be very interested in this, no offense if you can't
Apple's MacBook had some nice upgrades this round. Hope you guys enjoy the vid! Thanks for support fam =)
your editing skills are bomb m8
why don't you offer the desktop background links anymore??? I loved collecting those
That 3D animation, woo! Leveling up!
Dave Lee do acer helios 300 review
Dave Lee What about the MacBook Air?
Dave's videos are so good that even if he reviews toilet paper I will watch it
Saifullah Syed fuck off again
thanks dude. i'll def do a TP review for you
MAU KIN YAU Yes you should certainly have "repoted" him
hahaha
Dave Lee Possible future April fool's video?
"These are *some* Macbooks" ~Dave 2017
That moment when there are 6 macbooks on Dave's table and you dont even have one newer one.
How to upgrade a Mac
buying a new one
[Sighs] Planned obsolescence; yup that's about right.
remove ports
Kahlil Hernández planned obsolescence is where they cut the lifespan or plan the hardware disintegration. My 2012 mbp still works flawlessly and smoothly 5 years later. Apple doesnt do planned obsolescence
it does what nearly everyone does: perceptive obsolescence. "new" features that should make your stuff more "useful", even though the "old" one still is fine.
Hasan 58 idk though dude, cause I bought a gaming pc in 2013 right, and yeah everyone says you can upgrade them. But if I upgrade the GPU now, it most likely won't be compatible with my CPU. And then I'd have to look at upgrading RAM too. Idk, it seems like I need to buy a new pc anyway to upgrade at this point.. p.s my MacBook Pro from 2012 still runs like butter
Every year I hear the same story - if you have the previous generation MacBook pro, there is no particular reason for you to upgrade
that is the story in my marriage first and whoever girl moves next door
Evil Red it's the same for every product really. It's not limited to just Apple MacBooks. Phones, laptops, computer parts, etc. all can last a long time and there's no need to upgrade after a year.
Evil Red same with Dell XPS, so what is your point? It is a mature market, a computer that is all it is, what else do you want. It is the best laptop by far but too expensive for me.
Alexandre There is bigger difference between two phone generations than macebook generations
Milos M not for most years. Most companies do incremental upgrades most years, and only a design overhaul or a big new feature once every few years. Take Apple, Samsung, HTC, LG, etc.
I think if you can find a base model non touch base model 2016 13in for ~1000 then it's a better buy than the 2017, especially if you don't need the graphics performance.
gen 1 butterfly switches are so bad tho :/
still better than the ipad pro keyboard
@@Dmahmoud17 The 2016 ones are gen 2. The only difference is the option key has a new symbol
You are the best. Just found out your channel 2-3 days ago.
Harshit Pandey check out Detroitborg.
Светослав Коев Yes,I have been watching DETROITBORG for almost 4 years
Harshit Pandey good for you. he is hands down one of the best tech reviewers on this planet.
He is really awesome!
Your channel is really underrated. The quality of information and unbiased nature of the reviews are amazing. Subscribed! Keep it up.
I honestly wish they kept mag safe and have the touchpad optional. otherwise it's a good editing product for Apple users. also I hope apple watches this. they need to listen to their consumers like you who are pretty regularly getting views and have constructive criticism for them.
John Hanson The touchbar is optional on the lower size model
Mr. Cat it really should be optional on all models tbh
The magsafe has saved my old laptop countless times I have no clue why they removed it.
TheFarzan1234 more laptops are yanked off the table by the charging cable, more laptops prematurely destroyed, more demands for replacements... $$$$$$$$$$$
What's wrong with a touchpad?
I think I'll stick with my Raspberry Pi.
D Ro yeah i mean why would you downgrade
D Ro I mean the Pi 3 is actually able to do what most users need, like web browsing and word processing. plus you can stream games with Luna for Nvidia Game Stream.
Miss the old start tune.. :/
Me too.
Yeah I really miss it as well!! Please bring it back every now and then Dave!
Harrshad Arjun me too 😭😭😭
Same here 😂😂
same
DUDE. That edit and production quality is freaking sick. Love it
I farted at apple store and everyone evacuated because they didn't have windows
Platinum-Alisio overused joke
Platinum-Alisio best comment 😄
Adrian Caban what are you taking about this is good
Platinum-Alisio amazing joke
WillXDGaming you must live under a rock if you've never heard that joke before
Subbed. I've been watching you for quite a while and I'm impressed with your channel. Regular videos and the editing omg! Everything from the nice comparison boards to the softly coloured backround to your calm voice. This guy nows how to make the viewer comfortable and that is why I subscribed. No waffling but instead on point objective reviews and from a lovely person. Thanks Dave! Your work is much appreciated.
Roses are red, violets are blue, my name is not dave, this makes no sense, microwave.
Nice try, Dave.
😂😂
10/10. you should write poems for a living dude
Dave Lee do you know when the 2017 comes in stores in the US?
SciolismHD they're in store now
It's so relaxing listening to Dave review laptops!
I really wish I waited half a year for the kaby lake processors...
lol wat
Do-you-think-its-a-noticeable-difference?
You are one of my favorite TH-camrs man. Your honest and give just the right amount of information. I have a MacBook Pro and I still watch all your videos even though I do not plan on upgrading anytime soon. Thank you for the wonderful content sir!
Short answer : no
Long answer : no
Tigerhearty nooooooooooooo
purgeist
I think people who don't know what to do with their money are a part of the group that need this long/short answer.
People are forgetting that apps like logic pro and final cut which you cannot get on anything else.
In fact.. No. I know many people who have this in computer engineering, music creation, film-making (even using adobe's apps), programming, etc. So.. No.
Yucon People who buy Macbooks in my area are all fucking idiots who don't even know what an editing program is, especially the spoiled old kids in the university, while most who own Windows gaming laptops are actually smart, and they even know Macs are some overpriced crap.
I love that you keep your videos short, unlike some reviewers that can go 20 mins long.
Would it REALLY be that hard to add an SD card slot?
If SD Cards were branded "Apple", it won't be. They'll have SD Card slots for as long as MacBooks are a thing.
lol just buy the $20 USB-C thing with all ports including memory card reader and USB 3s...
Frank Ding Apple is trying to move to a wireless port less future to stay on the market.
In 100 or so years people will still talk about you. I'm always so thrilled when you upload a new video. Please, don't stop, you're a legend.
The only think that I like about Macbooks are those colors, wish we have the Rose Gold/Space Gray version on XPS 15
Great video as always! Congrats on hitting 600.000 subscribers!
I'm early let me make a joke
Gaming on a MacBook
Steven Warren Then what do you do on a MacBook?
SteelRazorBlade // AdamSRB media and content creation
lolollololol
Steven Warren Calm down, mate. It was a joke. Nothing worth calling someone names over.
Stan Kix But if a custom built PC or other laptops can do this better and at a cheaper price then why go for the MacBook?
hey dave i really love you and youre channel i love how calm you are in all of your videos keep up the awesome work
I bought the MacBook Pro 13 inch with kabylake and no touchbar and 256gb
AppleBud that is because the 2017 base model has a starting 128gb ssd which is slower than the 256gb, specially on the write speeds around 700mb. I habe the 2017 nTB 13" with 256gb i get 1.4mb write and 2.4mb read, pretty much the same as the 256gb model of 2016.
i have the 2017 base model but with 512 gb and the battery life is amazing
I'm looking to buy a macbook this year and yours have been the kind of videos i've been looking for! I'm so glad I got to your channel. Thank you so much, you're doing a great job!
why does 500 gb of storage cost 400 dollars extra ...
Because Timmy needs a new pair of shoes!
Lerbyn same reason 128 gb ssd and 8 gb ram costs 300 dollars for the surface laptop
because apple
Few weeks ago bought a refurb 13” 2016 with touch bar. Love it - give the touch bar a chance, trackpad is great being so big if you use the many great Apple gestures, and the keys truly grow on you. Just love the whole package and saved a bit with a refurb so no complaints.
Thank you for this great video! :)
I will upgrade my 2012 MBP to the new 2017 MBP in a few weeks.
If only they made a high end one without the touch bar, like Dave mentions. The touchbar has absolutely ruined my workflow and it hasn't improved after 6 months. It's a garbage innovation. The novelty wore off, quite seriously, in under 10 minutes.
dont forget to buy a LOT of dongle, for USB 3.0, SD card, thunderbolt, VGA, ect.. if I have to upgrade my MBP, I will choose MBP 2015,, the perfect macbook for the real world of productivity, not just fashion.. just watch the review "Why I returned my new macbook pro" on youtube..
DANNY ONLINE PLEASE do not waste your money on another MacBook. I am not a hater. I just want you to be aware that you can get better performance at a cheaper price.
I'd consider Asus Zephyrus, if the price isn't a problem. It's slim af and can power through anything you throw at it. Look it up :)
ahmad uhuh, I'm sure he knows what works best for him. Before you even suggest the XPS 15 or the Hp Spectre x360, note that I have owned both, and they both had to be returned for unforgivable defects. But if we limit it to the XPS 15, I sealed with very audible coil whine, ghosting, an inaccurate touchpad, frequent crashes and other less important but still relevant issues. The viable alternative is a desktop in my opinion, but he's surely buying a laptop for a reason.
Watching this in crispy 4K. Thank you.
Great Video, but could you make more budget-tech videos? Especially XIAOMI or other high-quality, but cheap solutions. (For example the Mi Pad 3, which looks like a great iPad mini killer at a price point of only around $220, or the new Xiaomi Mi 6)
I know you probably wont pay much attention to this but.. ehhh, would be great to see on your channel.
Dave, there is one touch of customization that I never seen you mention that actually matters for non-American buyers. Apple US website now gives you the option to customize your keyboard in almost any language you want. Personal example: I'm from Brazil and Apple products are so absurdly expensive in here that it is actually cheaper to book a promo flight to the US, buy a Macbook there and bring it home. I think this is the case as well for waves of tourists that visit Apple Stores in the US. It's lovely that now you can configure your MacBook on their website with your preferred keyboard layout and then set it for Store Pickup. It's something so simple that other companies like Dell, Asus and HP do not offer.
I always enjoy your straight forward reviews. Keep up the good effort.
Do you think the surface laptop is a good competitor or does the MacBook Pro 13 no touch bar blow it out of the market?
Kai Low Here in Canada if the laptops are similarly specced, they cost about the same. You get similar kabylake i5 dual core processors, 8GB of RAM, but the difference is in storage; the MacBook has 128GB whereas the surface laptop has 256GB. Frankly, here's how I see it. The Mac has a better display, great build quality and touchpad, and it's equipped with thunderbolt 3 USB-c. The Surface laptop has a touch screen display, more storage, less than ideal build quality with the alcantara strip, and a USB 3 + mini display port. If you're interested in what High Sierra will bring to developers and consumers alike such as official egpu support, I suggest the Mac. If you think storage will be an issue, remember cloud storage is a viable workaround, but if you need a lot of memory for the softwares you use, perhaps stick with the surface laptop. I think ultimately both are solid machines, so whichever you choose won't disappoint you hopefully.
Thank you so much. I might have a look at the surface laptop as it is around the same price as the MacBook Pro in Australia too.
Good luck!
The 13' base model benchmark shows a 10% increase. That's a lot, considering that's about how much performance increased from 2011's Sandy Bridge to 2015's Broadwell.
*A simple "no" would suffice 😂*
Think it's more complicated than that. The answer is, if you have a 2016, it'll be stupid to buy a 2017. But if you need to upgrade, get the 2017.
SteelRazorBlade // AdamSRB Not exactly since macs do offer best in class build quality, macOS and not bad performance tbh. If you game a lot then the answer would be *NO*, if you are on a 2016 model, it would be also a *NO*. If you are upgrading from like a 2010 or just want a Mac or you are looking for a well built laptop that looks great, then *SURE*
Mr. Wayne wouldn't want you to think he was wasting your time..
GCARLO0910 haha
Barney?? Lol
Thanks so much. Was looking forward for someone to finally do an in-depth review of this year's MBP vs last year's.
Where do you get all the fucking laptops?!?
Döner from apple
1st video of you I've ever seen It was on my recommended. Very informative especially on battery. I'll sub
4,199.00$ ....
Asus Rog with 17.3" Full HD screen,Intel i7-6700HQ,32GB RAM,2TB SATA SSD,NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB. And still you will save about 700$.
Mesrop Hovhannisyan I prefer asus to apple but the rogs are massive so I would probably buy the macbook for daily stuff
Yes,sure,it's depends what you need it for.
Mesrop Hovhannisyan what do you think of getting like an air for 6-700 dollars?
personally i do 3D Rendering,so i need max performance for it. Now i have i7 4720HQ,GTX 960m,16 ram,it's already time to change it.
It will also perform like pure shit, Asus makes only trash bar their mainboards
at this point i don't care really for new products themselves I just enjoy watching u talk about tech. and I ended up with information haha dope stuff man :)
Thumbs if you liked it, subs if you loved it.
man, the animations are, once again, perfect
tremendous job, man!
cool beans
What you said about “low power processors and that much ram...those of you who wanted it...” directly lifted off Lisa Gade’s video of wwdc 2017!
Hi can u start doing fidget spinner reviews?
freshwipe I would watch that lmao
Fortunately I purchased the 2016 15" Pro very recently and it was still in the return period. So I was able to return it and get the new one, so shoutout to the Apple customer reps for that.
Dave please review the new lenovo yoga 720 15 inch model
Your one of the youtubers that am actually excited for to upload you know Dave :) good work
yaaahhhh notif squad!
Reviews from you are out of this world, love the details and knowledge :)
Am i The only german who's watching this? :D
No ;)
Ur really good with After effects...man ur a hard-working person..hats off dave2d...
Could you do a giveaway?
Can we get to see a Studio Tour 2017 ? 2015 was good.But You've upgraded a lot ever since.
"That's just the facts" Where the fuck did you get these facts about Apple speakers being the best in the world?
He reviewed everything, obviously.
s27z have you ever heard speakers on a MacBook/pro?
s27z and what laptops have better speakers then?
It was weird to say it like that, but there aren't many people who have heard more laptop speakers then Dave so I'll take his word on it.
It is a fact because no laptop speaker is even close, try them.
Thanks Dave - I was sort of bummed when Apple updated their hardware right after I purchased a new 2016 model of the Pro. Happy to know that there is very little difference!
I got one today
smartest, honest and clearest riviewer on this day
Cheap ass window users are hating because they can't afford a mac
Please start a comment war on me *sarcasm*
gr8 b8 m8
The Barbaric Broneh th8 m8
09k 6QQ the dell xps 13 is more expensive than my 12 inch macbook
jdmmi xps is 999
a M no it isnt lmao its £1300
Damn that's one straightforward intro. I LOVE IT
I will never purchase a macbook
Bradly TheRadly that's cool, why are you here then. And we don't care.
Tchill my guy lmao
For the Win Maybe to watch the video to see if the macbook is still worthy to buy?
You hear that?
That's the sound of every person in this comments section not caring.
Hey, I was hoping you can do me a favor by subscribing and checking out my new video. Thanks So Much💕
For the 128Gb model, as someone who just uses their laptop for word processing, excel lab data, online HW, and lecture notes, its more than enough
Can we keep this comment at a even amount of likes?
no
LOL
lolll
HSCuber no
+Dave Lee Lmaoo
hey dave will you bring back the set up series(gamers,devs,design,...) they were so good?
keep up the good work!
I don't get these Macbook reviews,no hate Dave,but they are just plain useless. Should you buy one? Hell yes if you want to waste lots and lots of money for apple OS and nice build quality,but lack of proper components,and everyone knows this by now. If you are looking in a "normal" workflow laptop,you should just take a look at everything "non gamer", like the surface or some of Asus' laptops for everyday use,which have better components and are on the same build quality level as Apple for a lower price.
TiMeJ34nD1T “same build quality level as Apple” - go home, you are drunk
TiMeJ34nD1T "Same build quality" I think you are High Sierra, make sure the police isn't around
Admiral Ashik the surface pro build quality are actually pretty good, maybe macbook sligthly better. dont know about the asus one tho
Macs are less prone to viruses, more simple, very reliable (hardware and software), and friendly to coding.
Windows laptops are good too, but only the top tier ones where you have to shell nearly equal amounts of money such as the surface book. Cheaper laptops are a hit or miss.
My greatest gripe is with windows 10 and the forced updates; bricked my rig once and had to format and reinstall my whole system
+Jack Black, I can say the same for the MacBooks.. I've had macOS crash/fail, the hardware can (and does) break just like on any other machine, etc. I think you hit the nail on the head with the price though. If you want quality, you're basically in a similar price point to the MacBook, aside from that, neither holds superiority - except to the proselytizers. I do prefer my MacBook Pro (and Linux) for development, but use PC's for almost everything else.
It just strikes a nerve with me when people don't like something only because of the price. Im not rich by any means but if you like something you'll save up and get it.
DopeSpill Comics Theres differnece between hating price and hating value. Macbooks or any apple device has less value. Just see MI 10 Ultra smartphone for now. Its expensive as iphone 8 I will say (or less). But see its value like itjust kills even iphone 11 or iphone 10 or samsungnote 20.. everything.. thats the part
Early as hell!!!
Wanky doodle Hey, I was hoping you can do me a favor by subscribing and checking out my new video. Thanks So Much💕
Saifullah Syed fuck off you're ever comment I see you asking for subs
Mag Onesword I see you too 😩
Mag Onesword u say I want subs yet I have no content shame
You're not "early" you're on time.
Being early would require you watching the video before it's uploaded.
Thank you so much for breaking the 12 inch MacBook processor configurations down!
Apple's macs suck cause their overpriced. Your a youtuber so your rich but Im not
Artsicle then don't buy one. Those who have the money and are willing to spend it, will and those who don't have it or aren't willing to spend it won't buy it. For those there are a plethora of other options which are decent too.
I'm a PC user religiously but this comment makes me cringe way too much.
People who have the money will get a different laptop worth $500
even though i strongly dislike apple, they do make user friendly products that are easy to use and dont break easily. Theyre also lightweight and good for certain activities. Overpriced just depends on how you use it
Find me a kabylake i5 laptop with a 1440p gloss display with 2+ usb-c/thunderbolt3 with an ssd for under $1300. Please. You can hardly build a hackintosh setup with the same specs for less if you include the monitor.
Dave it really interest me on how you make the rendering graphics in your videos like the one at 0:30 seconds. if you can tell me what software you use and how you learned it or even give every one a light review tutorial i believe a lot of us will appreciate it.
holy shit first no way (nobody cares but whatever)
I enjoy your channel. Well presented, pretty music, interesting shots and cuts, and I enjoy you as host.
You do a great job in your video production and reviews Dave.....
Thanks Dave! I am on a 2016 model and was really kicking myself for not waiting for the 2017 model. But this video definitely gives me peace of mind. You rock Dave!!!
Love the video, Dave. I also noticed the really cool wallpaper of Hong Kong in the background. Is there a place where I can get/buy it?
Dave can we see a collection of all the laptops you've reviewed? please that would be amazing!
Absolutely awesome detailed description!
Hey Dave, love your channel and have been watching a lot of your laptop videos. Never been a Mac fan, but my schooling may provide me with one when i re-enroll in college. This video has definitely been very informational, but is there anyway that when you do graphs (like the one you did for the 3 CPU speeds) that you could switch it to a more colorblind friendly scheme? I had to kind of guess which was which.
What happened to the glowing apple logo? I loved that
I bought the 2016 MBP 15 inch about 3 months back and don't regret it. I thought of waiting for this but needed an urgent upgrade. I'm really liking it so far and everything just works. I do occasionally feel like a should have bought Dell XPS 15 for it's cheaper price and to play PUBG but I don't know if I would have been comfortable with using Windows after years on a Mac.
Best Review i've found. Simple an cut to the chase. Thank you very much. I guess I'll be staying with my MBP 2016 Base Model. Cheers.
Amazing video, exactly what I've looking to see. Thanks Dave, keep it up man !
got a 2015 full spec 15"macbook pro, I think I'll wait till the 2018 to upgrade. Still running smooth
Thanks a lot for reviewing the 2017 mac book pro run down. Helps so much.
Huge offer of 2016 refurbished models in refurb tracker... I usually get about one or two emails per day, but yesterday I got 75 emails with new refurb offers. Good for anyone wanting to upgrade on the "cheap"!
Great video. Can't wait to see the new iMac review. My 2013 MAC pro just died and apple said unrepairable. .
Dave, your graphs and animations are amazing, but you go trough the data and info sooo quickly, its tough to process everything or even a lot of it. Do you intentionally make shorter videos?
I'm mainly going to be buying a MacBook Pro 2017 for Logic Pro X. That is my primary reason for choosing a MacBook over any other type of PC. The software of MacBooks is hard to pass on. Especially, since I intend to upgrade to an iPhone later in the year. That aside, I am fine with the fact that the 2017 refresh isn't that different from the 2016 refresh. Granted, I don't have a MacBook that I am upgrading from, so I may be an oddity in that argument.
If you plan to watch 4K videos on a laptop, get a Kaby Lake. Not only for Netflix and their drm scheme, but the microcode and additional controller helps reduce throughput and optimize efficiency.
Nice video! I was an MBP 15 owner since they adopted Intel chips... until early this year. Switched to a Dell XPS 9560 and love it. The 4K screen is incredible and GTX 1050 performance is outstanding. I think build quality between the XPS and MBP is about equal these days. To be sure, I still love Macs. I also love my XPS. It's nice to have more choices when it comes to high-end laptops, now.
awesome video! how do you do those amazing animations? I know it's after effects or something similar, but how do you do them quickly enough to squeeze into your busy work schedule?
Will you do a review of the new HP Omen coming out late june/early july ? I'm looking forward to buying one this summer (The 17" one)
Also, great video as always :3
Thanks Dave for another great video! Keep it up ;)
I hear you always talking about how some keyboards are better than others and such. But what, for you, defines a good keyboard? I have troubles following along when you get too opinionated. What about the MacBook's keyboard that makes it so good? Is it how it feels when you press down, the texture of the keys them self, a satisfying click or snap perhaps? Please go a little more in depth and say exactly what makes them great. The video as a whole was spectacular though. I just love the way you do your edits and videos in general. Keep pumpin' them out :). Any pardon my memory I can't seem to remember but theres another laptop if I recall with a 1080 ti that's not the Zephyrus, it is around a cm thicker and had two foot things on the bottom of it to boost air flow. I just can't remember, but if you can, with the clues provided remember the name then tell me if you'll be doing a review if you get it. Or just tell me the name if you can. I just can't seem to find it. I think Linus did a video on it. Edit: The base model is $2,000 USD I think. Thanks!
You realize that the "speakers" AKA the grill on top doesn't house a front facing speaker, in fact its down at the bottom of the laptop. I call a placebo effect here!
i really like your reviews, have you done giveaways or sell some of the laptops you have review, i would be very interested in this, no offense if you can't
Those some clean graphics my dude, loving it!!!!!!