Companies need to put the weight of AI in the desktop... too expensive servers that charge basically nothing for the service... even with our data, seems to be insufficient for them. That's the only reason I found to push so aggressively the NPUs with 16Gb RAM in computers/smartphones (8Gb in case of phones).
Not entirely untrue but I feel like the expression of this sentiment is usually motivated by a fear of AI. Just use it folks - ride the wave, don't sit there and wait for it to come down on you
I'm looking to upgrade my laptop and this seems like a good option. It looks elegant and versatile. I just hope it has Office already installed so I can save that money haha
I have it and the truth is that it is a very complete laptop, except that I installed Office 21 through BNH Software, which was not that expensive at the time of installation.
Not specifically caling you out, but I see comments like this all over the internet. Just an FYI for those not familiar with how semiconductor manufacturing works. It takes years of R&D and planning to put products into production. This chip has been in development for years. They don't just wake up and decide to put out a chip. Most of these companies are working on things that the public won't see for 5-10 years from now.
It is not Qualcomm that made Intel or AMD go this hard, it is just Qualcomm's absurd performance and efficiency claims that made them the easy target during Lunar Lake's launch.
That information is incorrect. It was actually Apple that caused the loss of billions for Intel when they decided to stop using Intel chips and started producing their own chips, which were better. This move was a big blow for Intel, and they had to quickly come up with a recovery plan to save their business, as they knew that other companies might also switch to using ARM chips. Two years later, Qualcomm also announced that they were working on developing their own chips, and ARM has also been working on their own version, which is still in development. Apple started the Intel rot and we can see in their share price that investors are uncertain of their future.
@@Dave2D @cameronbosch1213 has a point though, competition was getting really difficult for intel snapdragon or not, they were already under insane pressure from apple and amd.
the battery life figures at 3:19 are for the lower-power intel chip - not the one shown in the other slides and not the one in the S14 that Dave is showing off.
@@ianism3 Sorry, I am confused by your comment. Isn't that single Intel chip with under different power? if not, then it seems the video is confusing...
Tbh Snapdragon CPUs are really solid in real-world usage, and AI features were of course never the real selling point for actual consumers. Admittedly I bought my Surface Laptop 7 mainly for the incredible design and build quality, but still the Snapdragon X Plus CPU is incredibly snappy, and compatibility issues are really rare (except for gaming, but even there most non-AAA titles run without any issue). Lots of reviewers mentioned that Snapdragon laptops simply feel faster in everyday use compared to AMD and Intel CPUs. But of course if someone has only a single laptop, and they want it to be good at everything (including gaming), then having a Snapdragon laptop for that single device is a poor choice.
@@LuckyNoob34 had everything to do with snapdragon chips. Intel would've become obsolete if windows could be run more efficiently on arm architecture. Check out intel share prices since Qualcomm's release.
Intel's own benchmarks? Better to wait until multiple independent reviewers have actually taken these things out for an actual spin before making a judgement.
I thought I had dejavu for a sec tho. But I hope this year is a difference cause Qualcomm did some good job with their Snapdragon chip, not some mediorce Snapdragon X 4-5 years ago. But one thing I dont ike is that the price of all of them are getting higher, like 40-50% more than the old generation. What a big price to pay just for efficiency and lighter laptop.
I am AMD biased but not blind follower. I want to Intel do better just for better consumer experience and better products for consumers for the both sides.
I want to know about standby battery life! This is where the new ARM-based designs really excel and where x86 on Windows really needs to compete effectively in order to be viable in the thin-and-light categories.
This is a Lunar Lake chip manufactured by TSMC. That's why its so much better than usual Intel chips. Honestly, I'm just a little sad that Intel wasn't able to solve their manufacturing issues at their fab for smaller nm chips.
I've gotten the impression that the new nodes are coming up rather nicely. TSMC is better still, but new and upcoming Intel nodes are pretty excellent also.
Lunar Lake was originally planned to use a new cutting edge Intel manufacturing process, but of course it is taking much longer than they hoped. It seems unlikely at this point that they will catch up to TSMC again.
@@cube2foxNow report it they are trying to sell foundary business. They will sell FPGA business, they become lean and focus on only processor design and software
Yes, just read Broadcom testing Intel fab silicon resulted in sub par manufacturing result. Intel has whole division just for fabs. This reviewed laptop is definitely not from Intel Fab
It's a miracle! Intel able to make this chip so power efficient on x86 architecture is unbelievable. Makes me wonder what they can be able to achieve if Intel was serious about ARM architecture!
@@SirusStarTV it is way more than that. People do not talk about node architecture when it comes about battery life they just say ARM vs x86.TSCM provided their 3nm node but also sold this node to other companies. Think about it
@@tonyburzio4107commenting the same comment doesn’t make it true, they won’t be delisted from all stock exchanges, only from DOW which is for blue chip stocks….
ARM and x86 have practically nothing to do with battery life, this chip could be ARM and the battery life wouldn't be any better People only thought x86 is the problem because Intel and AMD just haven't built a chip with solid battery life until now with lunar lake
Being honest I don't use TH-cam as much as I used to a couple years ago but whenever I see Dave2D's video, it always feels underrated like he makes the cleanest videos with best spec mentioning way but still doesn't gets as much views as some tech channels with low efforts and details in their videos, keep it up bro (will be subscribed forever) :)
I have bean waiting for this video since yesterday. In brief: Lunar lake is awesome. Performance per per watt is crazy. You missed out on an important point that these SKU's now have on board memory ( just like Apple sillicon) I watched the Intel tech talk yesterday they were saying this helped them to improve power efficiency significantly. And at the end of the day that Arc GPU is awesome for some casual light gaming in a thin and light laptop.
bro how did you get the laptop so fast, completed testing, completed the video editing and uploaded it 4-5 Hrs after launch. I think Dave is one of first guys which companies reach out to for review, pretty sure you had it 1-2 days before the official release.
The only chip I want to see in my laptop is based on ARM architecture. I want my laptop to run 20 hours, quietly, without fans, and without becoming a thermal energy plant. That is an absolute shame that there's still just Apple which makes this type of laptops.
Hey Dave, i trusted you last year when you talked about the Lenovo yoga pro 9i with the intel core cpu that’s a really silent device. After purchasing my unit I realized that it is not the case. And i am not the only one!! So please double check your units, they maybe get well tuned so the media doesn’t talk bad about it. A lot of people are trusting your Opinion to make a purchase decision.
Hi. Dave. First - long time subscriber and love the content on this channel. I made a similar comment on a SnazzyLab video (which he was kind enough to respond to) and wanted to leave a similar note to you. For reference, I made the comment in regard to the new Snapdragon processors but I think it's still applicable here. I am a finance professional so I use microsoft excel every single day. Pretty much all tech youtubers, when reviewing laptops, run games or video rendering benchmarks to show real-world use, but all I care about is how well these new chips hold up when processing hundreds of thousands of rows of data in excel. I received a file today with well over a million rows of data (not even using any intense formulas) and my entire computer slowed down significantly. For those not in finance reading this comment, excel is the sole reason why we require windows laptops. This will never change.
@@SirusStarTV I seen too many people, including LTT, praising the battery life and I'm like " I'd rather charge it a little sooner than have app compatibility issues or non starters , plus I can game more easily" and now lunar lake has the battery performance too
I'm currently watching this on my new S16 with the AMD chip this thing is trying to compete with. it's generally awesome (with excellent speakers) but there are a few issues. the screen brightness increases and decreases occasionally and I have not figured out how to stop that. the sliders on the edges of the trackpad are useless. it desperately needs USB-C ports on both sides because the charging cable is only like 1.3m. and the trackpad has a bit of a rattle like this year's Zephyrus G16... it's very small but quite annoying once you notice it. I'll give the computer to my dad and get one with a dedicated GPU
This is great and all, but I still rlly wanna see ARM laptops become more mainstream and supported. It would truly take windows laptops to the next level in terms of battery life and performance.
3:19 anyone else notice that the battery slide is with the _Ultra 7 268V_ (ie not the one shown in all the performance slides, and not the one in the S14 that Dave has)? that's a little sneaky on intel's part
Look at the specs, all CPUs have 4 pcores and 4 ecores, with difference in ram, and somewhat the gpu/NPU and frequencies, that it. So there won't be huge difference from bottom line to top of line.
Battery life won't matter if the standby sucks. No one in their right mind sits on their laptop for 15-20 hours straight. I wanna know what happens when I close the lid and open the laptop the next day. If it drains the entire battery, I bet people will prefer ARM laptops more.
laptops are devices i'm not even remotely interested in buying since i don't have any use but it is fascinating to see where they have gotten to. great content as usual!
@@cat-.- I think they like desktop. Personally I also comfortable with desktop but my pc is simple and only corei3 3rd gen/no D-Gpu. I do love laptops and have one. It's mid range gaming and I play games on it then after depression it's just sitting on box , computer also only dopamine stuff like youtube binging or doing work aside
@@iraklimgeladze522333% of their revenue in 2023 came from Client computing which is their biggest revenue segment. Most businesses buy Laptops instead of PCs do to Hybrid work.
The last decade saw insane progress for iGPUs. I can't wait to play Cyberpunk on high/ultra settings on tech that's not much thicker or heavier than a piece of cardboard in a few years.
The 120Hz display is mainly nice for just feeling smooth in normal productivity tasks, I think. Though I guess stuff like Minecraft or esports games can make use of it as well.
@CutoutClips I said it cause Dave pointed out the refresh rate as inspired by gaming? Was funny how he's like "really nice 120Hz display, must be for gaming" then we get to the charts and it's like *30-40fps*
I'm so glad that focusing on battery life is so important to these companies! I remember back when I had an old asus laptop, that thing wouldn't last even 2 hours unplugged. I hated that and always wished for something better. I finally got the taste of insane battery life when I got a Macbook Air M1 and was completely blown away by the battery life on that guy. However, I don't have it anymore sadly and now its nice seeing everyone is following the path of efficiency because now I know that anything I get in the future should last me pretty much all day if not more than what I need.
I'd still wait out for core ultra gen 3 or something. After how Intel is handling issues with 13th gen and 14th gen processors, im not gonna hop onto this just yet.
Wow, I saw this video in suggestions when it was posted 19 seconds ago and has no view. Never happened to me before, I don't know why but it's a fun experience :) * yoooo, people sent 16 comments until I finish writing this
ARM processor laptop likes Apple & Qualcomm depend on emulation to translate X86 applications. That's why X86 processor laptop likes AMD & Intel still win because they can translate X86 applications natively, so saving performance & battery life for another jobs
Intell have been sleeping for the longest time... Snapdragon and Mac Os new chips have been🔥🔥🔥.Any this is the kind of laptop that deserves to be among your dream laptop videos bro.💯💯
love this!! but what about editing videos, on premiere or after effects its good enough? i don't really care about games, just the performance on editing software?
@@christianr.5868 macOS makes macbooks are barely better than chromebooks. try using it for any intensive work or anything more niche and half the things you need don't exist on macbooks.
6:03 finally someone said it 😭😭I personally don’t understand why laptop manufacturers are so reluctant to just put one usb c on each side which is so convenient 💀💀💀 I’m definitely subbing now 👌
Apple have always prioritized certain programs with their GPUs. In other words - certain apps runs fast on M series but then many others are unusable and Windows machines are better every single time.
@ehtasam2080 thats simply not true. Plus, when you say "most", you should probably use the "most" powerful one a given company makes, which for Apple is probably the Mac Studio M2 Ultra for now
Hey Dave, great video as usual. Will you/could you do a video comparing this chip with the AMD one that came out a few weeks ago? (Maybe even include the Apple and Qualcomm ones for good measure)
I absolutely hate keyboards that the keycaps don´t make contrast with the chassis. The letters in some lighting conditions are impossible to read and they get dirty real quick. Keyboards should always have black keycaps, always.
Great video, thank you! The laptops sound very nice! I have a question for you. It's not really about this but what are your recommendations for laptops at the price range of about 750 euros? The inspiron 16 looked very nice with an amd 7 8840u processor. Do you also think there will be any discounts on maybe the intel chips with lunar lake chips releasing now? I just want a laptop for study and maybe some light gaming like minecraft. I would like to keep it for a few years and for it to be a bit future proof. So maybe the AI of the inspiron 16 would be usefull. I'd like to have your opinion. Do you have a good recommendation or do you maybe recommend to wait for something else? I'd like your opinion! Great video's! Thank you for them!
When are manufacturers going to finally stop making white/silver laptops with white/silver keycaps and white backlights? As soon as the backlight comes on the keys become illegible.
Intel moved to TSMC nodes and suddenly their chips become as efficient as Apple M chips. So all those praises and glitters showered on Apple M chips are actually because of TSMC after all.
In part it does - manufacturing process makes a lot of difference, but also CPU design makes differences, they changed a lot of stuff to make the cpu more efficient like all ecores are on their own low power island, memory on package, and several design changes. Also OS and even OEM design can make a difference.
Assuming U turn on auto brightness.IPS LCDs are more power efficient than oleds in most typical usage scenarios. First of all most IPS lcd phones only display around 500-800 nits brightness. But amoleds display 800 -1300 nits. And IPS LCDs power consumption depends on the ambient environment light adjustment. But oleds on max brightness consume more energy if the screen is full of colours and ambient light adjustment is high compared to IPS LCDs. Oleds save power only on dark background with minimal colours on max brightness compared to IPS LCDs. In conclusion oleds draw much 20-30% more current than IPS LCDs in typical scenarios most of the time. Assuming U have a 8nm , IPS lcd smartphone Vs 6nm amoled smartphone. The 6nm amoled smartphone will use up more battery on outdoors or on a white theme. The IPS lcd will not use more regardless of bright colours or white themes
They always have been. That OLED is more efficient has always been a myth made up because OLED is usually more efficient when displaying really dark colors or just black. And people just made up based on that that OLED is more efficient in general
i love when after every launch every review says "finally intel has done it". but intel itself did not mentioned apple m3/ m4 chips once. intel launched previous version of chip just 6 months ago and new laptop has just been released and did not hit the shelf yet and they become OLD.
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“You may have noticed I didn’t talk about AI in this video … that’s because we’re not at a point where AI matters to regular people.”
Amen brother.
Microsoft is going to do it anyway. We got new event this month
Aka you're to dum
Companies need to put the weight of AI in the desktop... too expensive servers that charge basically nothing for the service... even with our data, seems to be insufficient for them. That's the only reason I found to push so aggressively the NPUs with 16Gb RAM in computers/smartphones (8Gb in case of phones).
Not entirely untrue but I feel like the expression of this sentiment is usually motivated by a fear of AI. Just use it folks - ride the wave, don't sit there and wait for it to come down on you
Amen indeed ai is being shoved down our throats and we don't even have a proper use for it
I'm looking to upgrade my laptop and this seems like a good option. It looks elegant and versatile. I just hope it has Office already installed so I can save that money haha
I have it and the truth is that it is a very complete laptop, except that I installed Office 21 through BNH Software, which was not that expensive at the time of installation.
Well, what can I do? It's still a great laptop with very good specifications.
@@JohnJacobson555 How's the fan noise?
I love when companies wake up and decide to be competitive with the market, a huge win for consumers honestly
Intel may be delisted from the stock exchange, and they are considering reorganization, one of the bankruptcy forms.
@@tonyburzio4107no, they will be delisted from DOW, blue chip stock exchange, not from all stock exchanges
If only Blackberry, Nokia, Konika, LG mobile..... could wake up a little bit sooner, just saying
Not specifically caling you out, but I see comments like this all over the internet.
Just an FYI for those not familiar with how semiconductor manufacturing works. It takes years of R&D and planning to put products into production. This chip has been in development for years. They don't just wake up and decide to put out a chip. Most of these companies are working on things that the public won't see for 5-10 years from now.
The beauty of competition + free market.
Qualcomm made Intel and AMD to release good laptops chips, competition is always good for end users.
It was Apple not Qualcomm, or do you think they developed Lunar Lake in 6 Months?
@@Barandur it was definitely Qualcomm that pushed it. Maybe they had the tech for it but they never would have released it if not for Qualcomm.
It is not Qualcomm that made Intel or AMD go this hard, it is just Qualcomm's absurd performance and efficiency claims that made them the easy target during Lunar Lake's launch.
these chips weren't made overnight, they just released faster than intel
That information is incorrect. It was actually Apple that caused the loss of billions for Intel when they decided to stop using Intel chips and started producing their own chips, which were better. This move was a big blow for Intel, and they had to quickly come up with a recovery plan to save their business, as they knew that other companies might also switch to using ARM chips. Two years later, Qualcomm also announced that they were working on developing their own chips, and ARM has also been working on their own version, which is still in development. Apple started the Intel rot and we can see in their share price that investors are uncertain of their future.
I'm growing older but this guy is getting younger :(
Because you’re 3D and he’s 2D.
Dave's stealing our lifeforce 😰
He just got a haircut 💈
Why I saw he getting older than before ? You need to go check your eyes dude
Asian genes.
They had to wait for a competition to put this out. Imagine if snapdragon didn't release their processors.
we'd still be using 14nm++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
@Dave2D Nah, AMD already had given them a kick in the balls. Then Apple did too. Imagine if AMD Ryzen didn't exist though! 🤢🤮
It was actually Apple that lit a fire under everyone in the industry but especially Intel
@@Dave2D @cameronbosch1213 has a point though, competition was getting really difficult for intel snapdragon or not, they were already under insane pressure from apple and amd.
@@Dave2D lol
Whoa?! And here I though we HAD to go to ARM for battery life... This is amazing. Kudos and congrats to Intel. Looking forward to retail reviews.
the battery life figures at 3:19 are for the lower-power intel chip - not the one shown in the other slides and not the one in the S14 that Dave is showing off.
@@ianism3 Sorry, I am confused by your comment. Isn't that single Intel chip with under different power? if not, then it seems the video is confusing...
@@lucifernebulae it is comparable
@@ianism3 Still better than ARM, period
@@ianism3all chips have the same core configuration ultra 5, 7, 9 just varying cpu clocks so I don’t think it’ll make that much difference in battery
It's kind of funny how Qualcomm had their 5 seconds of shine, then AMD and Intel just stole the show
Blue team 🔵 and red team 🔴 coming together 🤝
Thank God, let's make x86 great again
Qualcomm is just starting their show lol
@@giancarlochiappe2418 true
Tbh Snapdragon CPUs are really solid in real-world usage, and AI features were of course never the real selling point for actual consumers. Admittedly I bought my Surface Laptop 7 mainly for the incredible design and build quality, but still the Snapdragon X Plus CPU is incredibly snappy, and compatibility issues are really rare (except for gaming, but even there most non-AAA titles run without any issue). Lots of reviewers mentioned that Snapdragon laptops simply feel faster in everyday use compared to AMD and Intel CPUs. But of course if someone has only a single laptop, and they want it to be good at everything (including gaming), then having a Snapdragon laptop for that single device is a poor choice.
Intel only did this because of the AMD, Apple M and Qualcomm competiton. Otherwise we would be stuck with duocore or quadcore chips until now.
Exactly
That's why competition is good
Qualcomm has nothing to do with it it was the pressure from AMD and Apple.
@@LuckyNoob34 saying Qualcomm had nothing to do with it is not entirely true.
@@LuckyNoob34 had everything to do with snapdragon chips. Intel would've become obsolete if windows could be run more efficiently on arm architecture. Check out intel share prices since Qualcomm's release.
Intel's own benchmarks? Better to wait until multiple independent reviewers have actually taken these things out for an actual spin before making a judgement.
even if the scores are close enough to snapdragon x its still miles better because of x86 app compatiblility
Intel apparently benchmarked against low end Snapdragon and not like for like
@@eddy7236 what did snapdragon best chip benchmark in doom eternal and gta v and disney speedstorm
@@drinkwater9891 Qualcomm said they aren’t making gaming PCs
@@eddy7236 well then they dont really matter for my needs, i need light gaming at least, all work no play makes me sad
I have heard that title so many times already..
yeah Dave says it every year lol
I thought I had dejavu for a sec tho. But I hope this year is a difference cause Qualcomm did some good job with their Snapdragon chip, not some mediorce Snapdragon X 4-5 years ago. But one thing I dont ike is that the price of all of them are getting higher, like 40-50% more than the old generation. What a big price to pay just for efficiency and lighter laptop.
They're paying him to say it every year.
Every new thing he tests is the best thing ever. At this point it's just a hypebeast channel.
Be prepared to hear more 🤷♂️
I am AMD biased but not blind follower. I want to Intel do better just for better consumer experience and better products for consumers for the both sides.
I always used to support AMD but man I am happy for Intel. Such a great comeback!
Amen
:) dig some history
4 cores... Welcome to 2010
@@Games_and_Tech You don't need that many on a Thin and Light smart.
I want to know about standby battery life! This is where the new ARM-based designs really excel and where x86 on Windows really needs to compete effectively in order to be viable in the thin-and-light categories.
and unplugged performance
I have one and it’s awesome. Thing never dies
Bro's hair is growing back again
Was my first thought: Oh God, not the hair again! 😂
Dislike button!
Meanwhiles i am here wishing he would grow it back out to new years crazy length
Yea, hair tends to do that
🐓
Really love the room, nice and minimalistic and nice presentation
I am testing a theory: every video where someone calls something a "product" instead of what it is is a sponsored marketing video.
😮😮😮😮
Lol it's how we're at the point where that no matter what chip youre getting a good ass product. Thank god competition exists
This is a Lunar Lake chip manufactured by TSMC. That's why its so much better than usual Intel chips. Honestly, I'm just a little sad that Intel wasn't able to solve their manufacturing issues at their fab for smaller nm chips.
ahh
I've gotten the impression that the new nodes are coming up rather nicely. TSMC is better still, but new and upcoming Intel nodes are pretty excellent also.
Lunar Lake was originally planned to use a new cutting edge Intel manufacturing process, but of course it is taking much longer than they hoped. It seems unlikely at this point that they will catch up to TSMC again.
@@cube2foxNow report it they are trying to sell foundary business. They will sell FPGA business, they become lean and focus on only processor design and software
Yes, just read Broadcom testing Intel fab silicon resulted in sub par manufacturing result. Intel has whole division just for fabs.
This reviewed laptop is definitely not from Intel Fab
It's a miracle! Intel able to make this chip so power efficient on x86 architecture is unbelievable. Makes me wonder what they can be able to achieve if Intel was serious about ARM architecture!
They just partnered with TSMC
@@SirusStarTV it is way more than that.
People do not talk about node architecture when it comes about battery life they just say ARM vs x86.TSCM provided their 3nm node but also sold this node to other companies. Think about it
Intel may be delisted from the stock exchange, and they are considering reorganization, one of the bankruptcy forms.
@@tonyburzio4107commenting the same comment doesn’t make it true, they won’t be delisted from all stock exchanges, only from DOW which is for blue chip stocks….
ARM and x86 have practically nothing to do with battery life, this chip could be ARM and the battery life wouldn't be any better
People only thought x86 is the problem because Intel and AMD just haven't built a chip with solid battery life until now with lunar lake
Being honest I don't use TH-cam as much as I used to a couple years ago but whenever I see Dave2D's video, it always feels underrated like he makes the cleanest videos with best spec mentioning way but still doesn't gets as much views as some tech channels with low efforts and details in their videos, keep it up bro (will be subscribed forever) :)
It’s paid sponsership video
I have bean waiting for this video since yesterday.
In brief: Lunar lake is awesome.
Performance per per watt is crazy.
You missed out on an important point that these SKU's now have on board memory ( just like Apple sillicon)
I watched the Intel tech talk yesterday they were saying this helped them to improve power efficiency significantly.
And at the end of the day that Arc GPU is awesome for some casual light gaming in a thin and light laptop.
When can we buy these laptops?
@@jcc4wx4ik7tseptembrr 24th
@@jcc4wx4ik7t 24 September. You can pre order certain laptops like Dell xps 13 and Asus zenbook 14 now
@@jcc4wx4ik7t September 24
Pretty sure he mentioned the ram being baked on at 4:07 in the video.
4:55 - good for dust retention
bro how did you get the laptop so fast, completed testing, completed the video editing and uploaded it 4-5 Hrs after launch. I think Dave is one of first guys which companies reach out to for review, pretty sure you had it 1-2 days before the official release.
Bro Just went back 20 years for this review 🤣 looking good dave looking good 👍
4:20 Critical Role cameo appearance!
There are dozens of us!
Was looking for this comment hhahaha
Interesting to see that when you bring x86 to the same manufacturing process as the leading ARM processors, power efficiency matches up.
wow I've been solid AMD for the past 6 years ever since zen but THIS chip has my attention o.o
@@isbestlizard The igpu and efficiency have my attention, looking forward the MSI claw 8 handheld with this chip
So well produced and presented! Stoked to check this out!
Have a great day Dave! Thanks for the video.
Damn intel got balls not bad
Let's hope those balls of steel don't oxidize
@@auritro3903 They won't, they're using TSMC chips now
The only chip I want to see in my laptop is based on ARM architecture. I want my laptop to run 20 hours, quietly, without fans, and without becoming a thermal energy plant. That is an absolute shame that there's still just Apple which makes this type of laptops.
This actually might be that, I mean it’s no match for the Max laptops but it’s no pushover from what I’ve seen here.
there isnt a big difference between arm and x86 these days, just be pragmatic and pick the best ones
Thanks for bringing back the OG Thumbnail style
OK. Now please Microsoft give me a Surface Laptop 7 with this Lunar Lake CPU.
Yes please!!!
that will probably come around spring when they release the Laptop 7 and Surface Pro 11 for business
Totally agree re USB-C on both sides - it's _so_ handy and I really wish all manufacturers included it as standard!
Full review with retail units please🙏🙏
A laptop like this would be nice for those coffee shop work days when I don't want to walk around with a far more powerful, but heavy laptop.
Hey Dave, i trusted you last year when you talked about the Lenovo yoga pro 9i with the intel core cpu that’s a really silent device. After purchasing my unit I realized that it is not the case. And i am not the only one!! So please double check your units, they maybe get well tuned so the media doesn’t talk bad about it. A lot of people are trusting your Opinion to make a purchase decision.
Hi. Dave. First - long time subscriber and love the content on this channel. I made a similar comment on a SnazzyLab video (which he was kind enough to respond to) and wanted to leave a similar note to you. For reference, I made the comment in regard to the new Snapdragon processors but I think it's still applicable here.
I am a finance professional so I use microsoft excel every single day. Pretty much all tech youtubers, when reviewing laptops, run games or video rendering benchmarks to show real-world use, but all I care about is how well these new chips hold up when processing hundreds of thousands of rows of data in excel. I received a file today with well over a million rows of data (not even using any intense formulas) and my entire computer slowed down significantly.
For those not in finance reading this comment, excel is the sole reason why we require windows laptops. This will never change.
I watched the presentation. Intel cooked Qualcomm when they said “28 games could not be launched on the Qualcomm system”
Yep the anticheat only works on x86 chips
@@sggsquadpresents not just multi-player, also some single player games.
What you said about the usb c ports is soo true! Every laptop should have the option to charge it from any side..
Lunar lake is the clear choice over Qualcomm in 2024. Huge W for Intel
No need to wait for developers to port their programs to arm
@@SirusStarTV I seen too many people, including LTT, praising the battery life and I'm like " I'd rather charge it a little sooner than have app compatibility issues or non starters , plus I can game more easily" and now lunar lake has the battery performance too
@@SirusStarTV but they already done for MAC world. All MacBook developers are ARM.
@@buzzlightyear3461 because intel macs would be no longer produced so they don't have a choice.
I'll actually wait for some real benchmarks.
got to appreciate Dave after all this time. always giving quality reviews and calling a spade a spade when needed
It should have had a 3rd TB4 port on the right. The chip supports it.
Im surprised they haven’t put TB5 on this thing yet.
@@GlobalWave1intel never plan to put TB5 in lunar lake. They think TB4 would be sufficient.
@@Arkan_Fadhila what’s the point of developing TB5 if you ain’t going to put it in your own devices?
@@GlobalWave1 I guess TB5 consume too much power at this early stage. They need to refine it to being able to fit it in low power SoC like lunar lake
i doubt they have the bandwidth for that much. even more of a question, the hell are you going to use that comes CLOSE to needing that?
interresting ! waiting your final review :)
I'm currently watching this on my new S16 with the AMD chip this thing is trying to compete with. it's generally awesome (with excellent speakers) but there are a few issues. the screen brightness increases and decreases occasionally and I have not figured out how to stop that. the sliders on the edges of the trackpad are useless. it desperately needs USB-C ports on both sides because the charging cable is only like 1.3m. and the trackpad has a bit of a rattle like this year's Zephyrus G16... it's very small but quite annoying once you notice it. I'll give the computer to my dad and get one with a dedicated GPU
i just got the g16 do u think i should have waited for this laptop? i can still return it
This is great and all, but I still rlly wanna see ARM laptops become more mainstream and supported. It would truly take windows laptops to the next level in terms of battery life and performance.
3:19 anyone else notice that the battery slide is with the _Ultra 7 268V_ (ie not the one shown in all the performance slides, and not the one in the S14 that Dave has)? that's a little sneaky on intel's part
ultra 7 has lower base power skull emoji
You are insanely good at what you do
Bro, you got the top of the line processor here
Look at the specs, all CPUs have 4 pcores and 4 ecores, with difference in ram, and somewhat the gpu/NPU and frequencies, that it. So there won't be huge difference from bottom line to top of line.
@@eliadbu they're all the same chip, but the lower end ones are slightly bind-down
@@NothingNewNerd this is true, this is why I say there is no huge difference in performance between all of them.
@@eliadbu Best value is 268v, with 32gb ram and the full 8 xe2 core igpu
Great review. Straight to the point to what matters for the regular consumer.
this guy has a fish tank
Dave2D, Thanks for posting this video.
Wait so you are not allowed to run your own benchmarks and show em, and you already made up your mind that they are good chips?
Yeah that's always retarded
yes, but that's based off of what HES played meaning his standards are different to yours or mine.
that ice cream t-shirt got me
I hope this pushes AMD to make better iGPUs.
It's not like AMD doesn't have the best iGPUs on the market.
@@antalpotifr these people are clowns that will believe even the likes of Intel after all this time and so many promises from them 😂
@@Space97. wait for the benchmarks to come out amd shill
I'd love to have that one. It looks absolutely awesome and the battery life would be amazing for low-energy tasks like writing code.
Intel used to be synonymous with excellence. I would really love to see them crawl out of the craphole they're in now.
"if your gonna go white, u gotta go bright" something dave would say for white backlighting
Battery life won't matter if the standby sucks. No one in their right mind sits on their laptop for 15-20 hours straight. I wanna know what happens when I close the lid and open the laptop the next day. If it drains the entire battery, I bet people will prefer ARM laptops more.
or just shut it down, windows Takes 5 Seconds to boot now.
@@SimonBauer7 Microsoft/hardware manufacturers NEED to fix the standby in computers. It is just inexcusable how bad it is.
Yea, until Microsoft/Intel/AMD fixes sleep state I'm forced to stick to a Macbook for work.
100% preach and say it louder so the people in the back can hear 🙌
@@InnocentiusLacrimosawell arm chips already proved that it's not the os fault it's the architecture a long time ago 😂
Always a treat to not get a "Includes paid subscription" from you dave! Keep this up and you may get your old crowd back 🙏
laptops are devices i'm not even remotely interested in buying since i don't have any use but it is fascinating to see where they have gotten to. great content as usual!
i'm having a hard time telling whether you're a gen z phone user or a boomer desktop user
Boomer would see the use of a laptop. Just a weird millennial @@cat-.-
@@cat-.- I think they like desktop. Personally I also comfortable with desktop but my pc is simple and only corei3 3rd gen/no D-Gpu. I do love laptops and have one. It's mid range gaming and I play games on it then after depression it's just sitting on box , computer also only dopamine stuff like youtube binging or doing work aside
Thanks to the competition
Time to buy Intel Stock again
It's dirt cheap rn
laptop chips are small segment of there share, they need to do more for Stock to move
@@iraklimgeladze522333% of their revenue in 2023 came from Client computing which is their biggest revenue segment. Most businesses buy Laptops instead of PCs do to Hybrid work.
Buy the dip 🤓🤓🤓
FINALLY!!! Thanks for the review!!
You said that about Metor Lake too and within the week of its launch nobody cared anymore because it was kinda crap.
The last decade saw insane progress for iGPUs. I can't wait to play Cyberpunk on high/ultra settings on tech that's not much thicker or heavier than a piece of cardboard in a few years.
Imagine playing at 40fps on a 120Hz display...
And on a 14 inch device😂
The 120Hz display is mainly nice for just feeling smooth in normal productivity tasks, I think. Though I guess stuff like Minecraft or esports games can make use of it as well.
@CutoutClips I said it cause Dave pointed out the refresh rate as inspired by gaming?
Was funny how he's like "really nice 120Hz display, must be for gaming" then we get to the charts and it's like *30-40fps*
Some 'Dave just rolled out of bed to make this video' energy here and I fuck with it
For some reason I really want to know how it compares to the snapdragon
I'm so glad that focusing on battery life is so important to these companies! I remember back when I had an old asus laptop, that thing wouldn't last even 2 hours unplugged. I hated that and always wished for something better. I finally got the taste of insane battery life when I got a Macbook Air M1 and was completely blown away by the battery life on that guy. However, I don't have it anymore sadly and now its nice seeing everyone is following the path of efficiency because now I know that anything I get in the future should last me pretty much all day if not more than what I need.
I'd still wait out for core ultra gen 3 or something. After how Intel is handling issues with 13th gen and 14th gen processors, im not gonna hop onto this just yet.
Yeah I’m still waiting for refurbished surface pro 11 with x elite. It’s also using a 120hz oled display
Ok I trust you 😂@@its_jjk
@@its_jjk Im pretty they announced this in a PSA already
Wasnt the issue primarily for 13th and 14th gen due to them just adding more power to the existing architecture
🤦🏽♂️ those were different fabs
Watching him since 2018 my guy getting younger day by day❤
Wow, I saw this video in suggestions when it was posted 19 seconds ago and has no view. Never happened to me before, I don't know why but it's a fun experience :)
* yoooo, people sent 16 comments until I finish writing this
yoooo
It's a big channel it happens.
You usually just write first and end up sixth 😂
That ceramic coating is nice, no fingerprints
ARM processor laptop likes Apple & Qualcomm depend on emulation to translate X86 applications. That's why X86 processor laptop likes AMD & Intel still win because they can translate X86 applications natively, so saving performance & battery life for another jobs
I’m really looking forward to these laptops, especially when Blackwell laptop chips are out, a gaming laptop with decent battery life will be amazing
Intell have been sleeping for the longest time... Snapdragon and Mac Os new chips have been🔥🔥🔥.Any this is the kind of laptop that deserves to be among your dream laptop videos bro.💯💯
Snapdragon is not ready yet, I'm going to wait for the next generation when they fixed all bugs and compatibility issues and also fully Linux support.
love this!! but what about editing videos, on premiere or after effects its good enough? i don't really care about games, just the performance on editing software?
Snapdragon ARM on Windows RIP
ARM Windows is dead on arrival
Nah, waiting for nvidia’s windows on arm chip
RIP? it was never alive. an oversized phone processor will never be able to compete with real computers.
@@your_average_cultured_dude M4 demolishes x86 wdym?
@@christianr.5868 macOS makes macbooks are barely better than chromebooks. try using it for any intensive work or anything more niche and half the things you need don't exist on macbooks.
6:03 finally someone said it 😭😭I personally don’t understand why laptop manufacturers are so reluctant to just put one usb c on each side which is so convenient 💀💀💀 I’m definitely subbing now 👌
"most powerful integrated GPU on the market" Apple would like a word
They need a direct comparison for the ARC vs Apple running native game to really compare.
The thing is Apple chips don’t run on Windows OS so it’s kind of hard to compare the two .
Apple have always prioritized certain programs with their GPUs. In other words - certain apps runs fast on M series but then many others are unusable and Windows machines are better every single time.
@ehtasam2080 thats simply not true.
Plus, when you say "most", you should probably use the "most" powerful one a given company makes, which for Apple is probably the Mac Studio M2 Ultra for now
@ehtasam2080 m4 iGPU isn't Apples fastest integrated GPU. But its still faster than X Elite.
Hey Dave, great video as usual. Will you/could you do a video comparing this chip with the AMD one that came out a few weeks ago? (Maybe even include the Apple and Qualcomm ones for good measure)
Nowadays, I take marketing benchmarks with LOADS OF SALT!
feel like the title shows
once in a while
I absolutely hate keyboards that the keycaps don´t make contrast with the chassis. The letters in some lighting conditions are impossible to read and they get dirty real quick. Keyboards should always have black keycaps, always.
Better learn to touch type lol. Haven't had a problem since.
maybe learn to type
Great video, thank you! The laptops sound very nice! I have a question for you. It's not really about this but what are your recommendations for laptops at the price range of about 750 euros? The inspiron 16 looked very nice with an amd 7 8840u processor. Do you also think there will be any discounts on maybe the intel chips with lunar lake chips releasing now? I just want a laptop for study and maybe some light gaming like minecraft. I would like to keep it for a few years and for it to be a bit future proof. So maybe the AI of the inspiron 16 would be usefull. I'd like to have your opinion. Do you have a good recommendation or do you maybe recommend to wait for something else? I'd like your opinion! Great video's! Thank you for them!
When are manufacturers going to finally stop making white/silver laptops with white/silver keycaps and white backlights? As soon as the backlight comes on the keys become illegible.
27 hrs battery life is insane
1:23 Dave, what's the point in showing some specs for a few seconds? Show it for like 8 seconds
Have been waiting for this video because when Dave is pleased then the device is good
Intel moved to TSMC nodes and suddenly their chips become as efficient as Apple M chips.
So all those praises and glitters showered on Apple M chips are actually because of TSMC after all.
In part it does - manufacturing process makes a lot of difference, but also CPU design makes differences, they changed a lot of stuff to make the cpu more efficient like all ecores are on their own low power island, memory on package, and several design changes. Also OS and even OEM design can make a difference.
it's really unfortunate because TSMC will fall if china ever decides to invade taiwan. all of TSMC's alternatives suck
Bro thinks process nodes are wizardry
appreciate the non-AI marketing talk here. kudos to you Dave!
Since when did IPS panel become more energy-efficient than OLEDs ?! 🤔
Assuming U turn on auto brightness.IPS LCDs are more power efficient than oleds in most typical usage scenarios.
First of all most IPS lcd phones only display around 500-800 nits brightness. But amoleds display 800 -1300 nits. And IPS LCDs power consumption depends on the ambient environment light adjustment. But oleds on max brightness consume more energy if the screen is full of colours and ambient light adjustment is high compared to IPS LCDs. Oleds save power only on dark background with minimal colours on max brightness compared to IPS LCDs.
In conclusion oleds draw much 20-30% more current than IPS LCDs in typical scenarios most of the time.
Assuming U have a 8nm , IPS lcd smartphone Vs 6nm amoled smartphone. The 6nm amoled smartphone will use up more battery on outdoors or on a white theme.
The IPS lcd will not use more regardless of bright colours or white themes
They always have been.
That OLED is more efficient has always been a myth made up because OLED is usually more efficient when displaying really dark colors or just black. And people just made up based on that that OLED is more efficient in general
OLED is only more power efficient with particularly dark content. Otherwise LCDs are more efficient.
Waiting for that surface laptop 7 review! 🤞
i love when after every launch every review says "finally intel has done it". but intel itself did not mentioned apple m3/ m4 chips once. intel launched previous version of chip just 6 months ago and new laptop has just been released and did not hit the shelf yet and they become OLD.
Because it sucked
The thunderous roar of the jet overhead confirmed her worst fears.
how much battery you want?
Yes
@ehtasam2080 Put a 20 megawatt nuclear reactor in a thin and light laptop, and a good amount of uranium, it'll last a thousand years
Thank you Qualcomm for making this possible for us the consumers.
doesn't he have this title like every 3 months.
i love the fact we are saying goodbye to more and more dedicated gpu as time goes by