Part 2 didn't quite go as planned and involved the wing meeting the ground a lot. Now I've calmed down about it, I'll stick an edit up, but it won't tell you much about the performance of the S6R, just my inability to throw a plane... so part 3 is probably going to be where it's at
I have one of these in a bixler1 to teach my kids to fly. So far it's been an absolute pain to get it working. Then add that to having to learn open tx. We have stability and autolevel control working but I never yet did the setup then throw the sticks around. I guess we've been lucky so far. We have one of the 'convenient' mode firmwares on there at the moment and configured it with an Arduino STK alternative. The LUA looks pretty handy, I wish I'd tried that route before seeing it on TH-cam. Best of luck.
Hope they get on the ball about simplying set up it's the Achilles heel of the hobby in every way some of the best products out there are honorable because it's so hard to understand the setup or manuals, Cheers 🍻
FYI, something is wrong in the user guide of the S6R. Flashing yellow LED means "calibration in progress, please wait'". This is why some people got some troubles during the calibration process.
channel 9 in stabilize mode adjusts servo travel(distance from center). in auto level it adjusts servo speed, after tinkering with the s6r i find this to be the case. It does take tinkering to work properly.
Have a look at the comment from CarFunMostly, on a traditional plane it uses rudder as well. Looks to be a slight pain to setup for many people. The s/w seems a bit flakey, but I'll see how it goes in the wing before I can say for sure.
Hi Wayne, yes, mine works with my Taranis X9D Plus...I think the STK tool and the APP makes life easier as when calibrating the Giros it has Pictures showing the different RX positions. Stab Mode and Auto level are two different things. You need to jack up the Gains in Stab Mode looks like. Im assuming (and hoping) that in Autolevel its a bit like the Omnibus F4 where it will let you override all you like, which means the Stab Mode will become redundant anyway. I'll have to try the Lua Script myself now for in field adjustments. Look forward to your first flight.
I find stab mode without autolevel more useful really - although it depends what you are flying. In a fast wing, it should stop me having to correct every little gust that throws off my attitude - I'd use the self level aspect as a "hang on I just need to let this fly hands off while I do something" mode.
Yes, I agree to a point, but flying in Auto Level is better, provided the code allows you to override it on command. Some controllers do this a lot better than others. Basic Stab or Giro Mode is just that, basic and will smooth out flight, but it will not maintain wings level if you go hands off, which increases workload. Until I fly it I can't comment really. What was noticeable, was the smoothness of the servos using the S6R, whilst my APM Mini Pro for example is ropey and jumpy. It still works, but it's obviously inferior.
Hello! The S6R/S8R documentation states that battery voltage is built-in? Does this mean I do not need a sensor to read aircraft battery voltage in real-time? Thanks!
Looking forward to seeing you fly this. I have 1 in my F1 Wing but I can't get the stability part to work. Set up my channels ok, but at the moment it's just an expensive Reciever.
CurryKitten Nothing apart from the Rx working. I have the tool as well and 2 Rx's, figured that if I was paying a tenner for the tool, might as well buy 2 to make it worth while!
Masha Allah nice video brother, thank you, is there any way the original Taranis will work? I was thinking of using this receiver, may just go the iNav route now
Hello, thanks for video, really helpfull. Does this reciever has battery voltage per cell telemetry?(in manual it is sad it has Built-in battery voltage sensor) Or i need external voltage sensor for per cell telemetry? (such as FLVSS/MLVSS sensors)
It does say that, but also mentions that it's operating voltage max is 10v, so something else will be required... just not sure what. My field is drying, so I'm aiming to have some more tries of this and so will endeavour to find out. There's some newer firmware since I last took this for a whirl as well
Hi there, I also own an "old" classic non-plus Taranis and was not able to bind the S6R to it (non EU Firmware). BUT: there is a bizarr solution . That is: changing the receiver number where you want to bind it. I tried to bind it to no. 27 (in my case, the next one that was free). It did not bind, no matter what I tried. With a hint from the net (I guess it was in RC groups) I changed the number to 30 and I was able to bind it instantly. Really bizarr, nowhere to find at FrSky, but that´s it.
Interesting - I'd read about people having issues with certain rx numbers, but not as a sokution for using on the older Taranis. Nice one. Interestingly, my one would always appear to bind (IIRC) but then have no signal. I take it you've had no issues with range and stuff ? (If it all works out I'll be sure to mention it in the update video - which I'll do when it's a bit drier out as I keep launching my MiniRaceWing into deep mud right now)
Same here in Germany. But well, honestly I did not check the range after binding it. Just did it (after many hours of trying with different firmwares) and left it for the time being. That was roughly a year ago. Since then I messed around with INAV and stopped looking at it. Making it work properly seems to me still a pain in t.a. But maybe now I will look how the firmwares have developed. That is why I came by your video right now. :-)
Nice - they are good guys, and the design works brilliantly. All the times I've thrown it into the ground, it's just popped apart as it's supposed to. I just need to get better at throwing it :D
Can you use a receiver like this with a flight controller if I was using the fc for GPS leds buzzer ect could I also use this?? Forgive me if this is a stupid question I am learning and just starting my first wing build
Technically you could do yes - but you'd be taking one of several odd paths. 1) If you wanted to use it as a stabilizer and ignore the FC (presumably running iNav or something) then you'd miss out on the better features that the FC has, and RTH would potentially have a fight between the two systems. 2) If you want to use it just as a receiver, with the FC doing everything else... again, you can - you can turn the stab features off, but you'd be putting in a large rx which you don't need and could get something smaller/lighter/cheaper instead. My suggestion: If you are going down the iNav route anyway, just get a regular receiver instead of this.
@@CurryKitten okay makes sense I suppose as I say I am new to the flying hobby and maybe should of researched exactly what the flight controller can do first thanks for the reply I'll stick with the fc
I haven't done that much with iNav, but if you check out Painless360's excellent channel he's done quite a few series on the complete setup, so very much worth a watch if you are new to it
@@CurryKitten I would like to do a line of sight wing anyway while I'm learning to fly so I've still learned something I'll check out painless 360 I've just built my first 5 inch drone but not seen much on inav anyway thanks for your help and advice
Not sure I understand this question, the S6R has a stabilizer built into the receiver, but the X8R doesn't, so there's no setting up the 8XR in the same way.... unless you are talking about using a separate stabilizer ?
Not exactly, I threw my wing into the ground many times though th-cam.com/video/4RglwkclmAg/w-d-xo.html I'll be going back and trying that again once the ground has dried out a bit
Don't know - never taken it any distance and don't have an X10s. But normally this type of antenna is good for at least 2-3km... but obviously, it depends on your mounting position, flight altitude, what the atmospherics are like on the day etc
Don't know yet - weather has grounded me for the past 2 weeks. Managed to get out today to fly some quads, so hopefully I'll get to the flight test part soon.
If you are after an S6R, here's the Banggood product link goo.gl/6UBMEQ
We're waiting for part 2 🤗 thanks for the video
Part 2 didn't quite go as planned and involved the wing meeting the ground a lot. Now I've calmed down about it, I'll stick an edit up, but it won't tell you much about the performance of the S6R, just my inability to throw a plane... so part 3 is probably going to be where it's at
CurryKitten no worries, I can wait because I just subbed you 😇 Cheers
I have one of these in a bixler1 to teach my kids to fly. So far it's been an absolute pain to get it working. Then add that to having to learn open tx. We have stability and autolevel control working but I never yet did the setup then throw the sticks around. I guess we've been lucky so far. We have one of the 'convenient' mode firmwares on there at the moment and configured it with an Arduino STK alternative. The LUA looks pretty handy, I wish I'd tried that route before seeing it on TH-cam. Best of luck.
Hope they get on the ball about simplying set up it's the Achilles heel of the hobby in every way some of the best products out there are honorable because it's so hard to understand the setup or manuals, Cheers 🍻
FYI, something is wrong in the user guide of the S6R. Flashing yellow LED means "calibration in progress, please wait'".
This is why some people got some troubles during the calibration process.
channel 9 in stabilize mode adjusts servo travel(distance from center). in auto level it adjusts servo speed, after tinkering with the s6r i find this to be the case. It does take tinkering to work properly.
This looks awesome - a friend of mine wants to learn to fly RC planes, so this in a Bixler seems to be a good option.
Have a look at the comment from CarFunMostly, on a traditional plane it uses rudder as well. Looks to be a slight pain to setup for many people. The s/w seems a bit flakey, but I'll see how it goes in the wing before I can say for sure.
Hi Wayne, yes, mine works with my Taranis X9D Plus...I think the STK tool and the APP makes life easier as when calibrating the Giros it has Pictures showing the different RX positions. Stab Mode and Auto level are two different things. You need to jack up the Gains in Stab Mode looks like. Im assuming (and hoping) that in Autolevel its a bit like the Omnibus F4 where it will let you override all you like, which means the Stab Mode will become redundant anyway. I'll have to try the Lua Script myself now for in field adjustments. Look forward to your first flight.
I find stab mode without autolevel more useful really - although it depends what you are flying. In a fast wing, it should stop me having to correct every little gust that throws off my attitude - I'd use the self level aspect as a "hang on I just need to let this fly hands off while I do something" mode.
Yes, I agree to a point, but flying in Auto Level is better, provided the code allows you to override it on command. Some controllers do this a lot better than others. Basic Stab or Giro Mode is just that, basic and will smooth out flight, but it will not maintain wings level if you go hands off, which increases workload.
Until I fly it I can't comment really. What was noticeable, was the smoothness of the servos using the S6R, whilst my APM Mini Pro for example is ropey and jumpy. It still works, but it's obviously inferior.
Hello! The S6R/S8R documentation states that battery voltage is built-in? Does this mean I do not need a sensor to read aircraft battery voltage in real-time? Thanks!
Looking forward to seeing you fly this. I have 1 in my F1 Wing but I can't get the stability part to work. Set up my channels ok, but at the moment it's just an expensive Reciever.
So is it the case that auto level works, but not stab - or nothing at all... past it being a regular rx ?
CurryKitten Nothing apart from the Rx working. I have the tool as well and 2 Rx's, figured that if I was paying a tenner for the tool, might as well buy 2 to make it worth while!
Masha Allah nice video brother, thank you, is there any way the original Taranis will work? I was thinking of using this receiver, may just go the iNav route now
Hello, thanks for video, really helpfull.
Does this reciever has battery voltage per cell telemetry?(in manual it is sad it has Built-in battery voltage sensor)
Or i need external voltage sensor for per cell telemetry? (such as FLVSS/MLVSS sensors)
It does say that, but also mentions that it's operating voltage max is 10v, so something else will be required... just not sure what. My field is drying, so I'm aiming to have some more tries of this and so will endeavour to find out. There's some newer firmware since I last took this for a whirl as well
If you need power battery per cell data, it needs to add additionally external battery Voltage sensor, that plugs to s.port socket.
Hi there, I also own an "old" classic non-plus Taranis and was not able to bind the S6R to it (non EU Firmware). BUT: there is a bizarr solution . That is: changing the receiver number where you want to bind it. I tried to bind it to no. 27 (in my case, the next one that was free). It did not bind, no matter what I tried. With a hint from the net (I guess it was in RC groups) I changed the number to 30 and I was able to bind it instantly. Really bizarr, nowhere to find at FrSky, but that´s it.
Interesting - I'd read about people having issues with certain rx numbers, but not as a sokution for using on the older Taranis. Nice one. Interestingly, my one would always appear to bind (IIRC) but then have no signal. I take it you've had no issues with range and stuff ? (If it all works out I'll be sure to mention it in the update video - which I'll do when it's a bit drier out as I keep launching my MiniRaceWing into deep mud right now)
Same here in Germany. But well, honestly I did not check the range after binding it. Just did it (after many hours of trying with different firmwares) and left it for the time being. That was roughly a year ago. Since then I messed around with INAV and stopped looking at it. Making it work properly seems to me still a pain in t.a. But maybe now I will look how the firmwares have developed. That is why I came by your video right now. :-)
BTW I know the guys that have made the MRW. They live close by, I saw the first prototype and we have flown together may times.
Nice - they are good guys, and the design works brilliantly. All the times I've thrown it into the ground, it's just popped apart as it's supposed to. I just need to get better at throwing it :D
Can you use a receiver like this with a flight controller if I was using the fc for GPS leds buzzer ect could I also use this?? Forgive me if this is a stupid question I am learning and just starting my first wing build
Technically you could do yes - but you'd be taking one of several odd paths. 1) If you wanted to use it as a stabilizer and ignore the FC (presumably running iNav or something) then you'd miss out on the better features that the FC has, and RTH would potentially have a fight between the two systems. 2) If you want to use it just as a receiver, with the FC doing everything else... again, you can - you can turn the stab features off, but you'd be putting in a large rx which you don't need and could get something smaller/lighter/cheaper instead. My suggestion: If you are going down the iNav route anyway, just get a regular receiver instead of this.
@@CurryKitten okay makes sense I suppose as I say I am new to the flying hobby and maybe should of researched exactly what the flight controller can do first thanks for the reply I'll stick with the fc
I haven't done that much with iNav, but if you check out Painless360's excellent channel he's done quite a few series on the complete setup, so very much worth a watch if you are new to it
@@CurryKitten I would like to do a line of sight wing anyway while I'm learning to fly so I've still learned something I'll check out painless 360 I've just built my first 5 inch drone but not seen much on inav anyway thanks for your help and advice
Hi. Can you please share the plans for your glider? :)
If you are talking about the wing that was featured, there are no plans - it's the MiniRaceWing from flybot.de
thank you
Can I use the stk tool to setup the X8R receiver with stabilizer?
Not sure I understand this question, the S6R has a stabilizer built into the receiver, but the X8R doesn't, so there's no setting up the 8XR in the same way.... unless you are talking about using a separate stabilizer ?
CurryKitten ok, I thought the X8R also had it
@@inspiredbyinspire9234 the S8R does
SpAzZz AtTaK so do you know if I can use the stk tool to set it up
did you do a part 2
Not exactly, I threw my wing into the ground many times though th-cam.com/video/4RglwkclmAg/w-d-xo.html I'll be going back and trying that again once the ground has dried out a bit
How is with the range of the S6r with x10s?
Don't know - never taken it any distance and don't have an X10s. But normally this type of antenna is good for at least 2-3km... but obviously, it depends on your mounting position, flight altitude, what the atmospherics are like on the day etc
Seems this product is causing a lot of problems, how did you go?
Don't know yet - weather has grounded me for the past 2 weeks. Managed to get out today to fly some quads, so hopefully I'll get to the flight test part soon.
Setting up this product is an absolute nightmare, I'm not able to map the channels with my Tx