Who is best in Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance

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  • @frogganator3918
    @frogganator3918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    On of my best characters on my first full playthrough was Mia. She maxed out Speed Strength and Skill, i kept Vantage and gave her Adept. She completely wrecked everyone that was stupid enough to engage in close combat.
    Second playthrough she got garbage stats when I started talking her up mid game 😅

    • @Friendguystarcraft
      @Friendguystarcraft 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Best way to judge units is average stats and if they do things better than others in the same role. Her combat is no better than someone like Oscar (probably much worse actually) and she has less movement, no good 1-2 range options, and no weapon triangle control (despite this not really mattering in this game). Mia is not good.

  • @matthewsan8201
    @matthewsan8201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My absolute favorite unit in Path of Radiance is Jill. Glad she made it high on the list :)

  • @DuskMindAbyss
    @DuskMindAbyss 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Currently playing PoR for the first time, at chapter 10. This is absolitely gonna help me out, thx a lot

    • @locloudanerpg
      @locloudanerpg  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you found me! Enjoy one of my favorite FEs!

  • @Tupacperc30
    @Tupacperc30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Please do a list on Awakening that would be great

    • @locloudanerpg
      @locloudanerpg  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Got it!

    • @nachohangover5104
      @nachohangover5104 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@locloudanerpg The list:
      Robin>everyone else

    • @technicallythecenteroftheu1349
      @technicallythecenteroftheu1349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can do it for him.
      Units that can become Dark Fliers and Frederick: God tier
      Everyone else: Shit tier

    • @locloudanerpg
      @locloudanerpg  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@technicallythecenteroftheu1349 😂

  • @henryreturns1397
    @henryreturns1397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Small things I would change :
    - Move Oscar to God Tier cuz he joins pretty early , good supports , plus it’s a complete beast after promotion and have access to axes.
    - I would move down Boyd and Makalov from Top tier to upper middle. Makalov cuz he joins mid game when Kieran , Oscar , Astrod and TITANIA are already destroying , and Boyd cuz lack of movement.
    - I would move Stefan to upper middle cuz of 3 main things , he comes with Astra already , has S rank sword , and have amazing bases when he joins and can handle himself.
    - Titania should be on her OWN TIER :)

    • @Friendguystarcraft
      @Friendguystarcraft 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Marcia is arguably better than Titania and Jill is right there as well. Titania is busted but so are those two (especially because of bexp) plus Titania tends to get outscaled late.

  • @technicallythecenteroftheu1349
    @technicallythecenteroftheu1349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "If you had [Haar] for a larger section of the game, he'd probably be one of the best units in the game"
    Radiant Dawn: So he's around in the first and last chapters of part two, rejoins permanently in 3-2, we removed his bow weakness, nerfed thunder magic, gave him absurd bases, and he can promote as soon as you get a master crown, if he hasn't already.

    • @locloudanerpg
      @locloudanerpg  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Easily the best character in Radiant Dawn

    • @technicallythecenteroftheu1349
      @technicallythecenteroftheu1349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@locloudanerpg technically, Jill is better. In the Greil Mercenaries' campaign, yeah you have Haar, but you also have Ike and Titania and Shinon and a bunch of other delete buttons. Meanwhile, in terms of raw combat, Jill's biggest competitor is Nolan, but she's the only flier, and the only non-infantry competition is Fiona.

    • @nachohangover5104
      @nachohangover5104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@technicallythecenteroftheu1349 Yeah. It's definitely debatable if Jill or Haar is better, but they don't compete with each other at all and they're clearly the best units in their respective teams so you really should just use both.

    • @henryreturns1397
      @henryreturns1397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The difference between Jill and Harr is that Harr already comes as a “complete package”, while Jill needs babying to become broken. Yes she carries the Dawn Brigade if train , but Dawn Brigade you can squeeze by also with Voluge , Sothe , Zihark, and on levels where you have Tauroneo or Nailah , is a wrap

    • @michaelbainbridge7335
      @michaelbainbridge7335 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@locloudanerpg Are you gonna do one of these for Radiant Dawn?

  • @lucasammartino3974
    @lucasammartino3974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Making Fire Emblem tier lists is extremely difficult since those games have a strong RNG factor which influence your units. I kind of disagree on some places, the worst offender being Nasir in the shit tier, but overall I think this tier list is fine.
    Nasir is not upper medium tier material but at least he has compentent stat and share the ability to damage the final boss with Ike and the royal laguz
    Also you missed Geoffrey

    • @lucasammartino3974
      @lucasammartino3974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, and Tanith is a Falcon Knight, not a Wyvern Rider

    • @locloudanerpg
      @locloudanerpg  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great points and a good argument honestly. Also yes I caught the Tanith mistake after the fact.

    • @Friendguystarcraft
      @Friendguystarcraft 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You just have to look at how good units are on average to limit that RNG component. Also, tier lists are mainly valuable for saying how quickly and easily a unit helps you beat the game, which Nasir doesn’t help much with considering late join and being completely outclassed/made obsolete by wrath resolve Ike

  • @brandoncain3730
    @brandoncain3730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    During my playthrough, Boyd was a one man army. Give that man Vantage, and he can clear maps damn near entirely by himself as almost every unit he comes across, he kills before they can get a hit. My latest run, Boyd was MVP with 190 kills under his belt. I may even throw Adept on him next time.

    • @Elysia1047
      @Elysia1047 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah I agree. Boyd is an absolute monster. and most TH-cam I see he is #1 in the end.

    • @nonessss2810
      @nonessss2810 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I gave my Boyd Vantage+Wrath, ultimate boss killer. Too bad I can't use him against Black Knight lol.

  • @Dan_Letters
    @Dan_Letters ปีที่แล้ว

    Sure thing.
    Rhys is pronounced "Reece" not "Rice".
    Happy to help 😜
    Great vid tho

  • @fumi4263
    @fumi4263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Lightning Magic is better than Wind magic"
    So you don't know what weigth is then lol

    • @farahinnisa2116
      @farahinnisa2116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use Fire tome in all fire emblem series because it light af and can double every strike.

  • @AlexaRobin21
    @AlexaRobin21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You forgot to mention the fact that Tanith summons disposable bodies on the field.

  • @phoenixnopal9397
    @phoenixnopal9397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Have you ever played Bravely Default? It would be cool to see a tier list on the classes from one of the games.

    • @locloudanerpg
      @locloudanerpg  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve gotten that request before but still have not played them. I’ll make sure to get it in the que at some point.

  • @locloudanerpg
    @locloudanerpg  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think enough have commented about Nasir that I should make a slight revision. Nasir should be slightly higher because of his better stats and ability to hit the final boss. I’d move him to lower mid tier.

  • @colewatson4830
    @colewatson4830 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I get Path of Radiance, I'll use this guide to help me since they are really helpful.

  • @jacobjones7028
    @jacobjones7028 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bringing me back to my 8th 100% of PoR when I was like 13. And I had a list of challenges. Each time I beat it, I did something new (cause I was new to Fire Emblem games, so I didn't know any mechanics or how to play it).
    1. Beat the Game
    2. Beat the game, no deaths
    3. Beat the game, all recruits no deaths
    4. Beat the game with laguz and Ike only
    5. Stefan exists? Okay, well, #3 but with Stefan
    6. Black Knight Defeated, Ike Mist only run
    7. Ike only, Black Knight not defeated

  • @pyguy7
    @pyguy7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I Sothe that ending coming.

  • @bakalee1452
    @bakalee1452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zihark was such a hot take!

  • @iguy6571
    @iguy6571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just pointing out, Nephenee sucks. She has awful bases and weapon ranks.

  • @RaeBordz27
    @RaeBordz27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Suggestions for the next tier list video
    -Dragon Quest XI
    -Octopath Traveler
    -Final Fantasy XV (Weapon Tier List i guess?)
    -Final Fantasy XIII
    Just my personal opinion :D

    • @locloudanerpg
      @locloudanerpg  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love it. I’m redoing my original FFVII after Persona 3 but can see if I can fit some of these in.

    • @RaeBordz27
      @RaeBordz27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@locloudanerpg Thanks! Looking forward to it

  • @kentknightofcaelin4537
    @kentknightofcaelin4537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video, but some weird opinions. Especially Rolf is way too high. You can make him usable, but that doesn't change the fact that he's the worst character in the game by far. All the characters you placed below him can contribute to some extent without any investment.

  • @Hebleh
    @Hebleh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo there may be problems with this tier list but at least someome gives Rolf some love, I respect that

  • @mr.s.i6642
    @mr.s.i6642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow mia is better than zihark🤨.
    Her bases are atrocious.She should be low tier.
    Tanith is a falcon Knight

  • @Quortezz3
    @Quortezz3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Elincia is best girl

  • @nachohangover5104
    @nachohangover5104 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In Ulki's defense, he at least shares a niche with Janaff in being one of only two units in the main game to get both flight and shove. It's not much but it's a niche. No canto shoving until the next game though.
    Even Sothe's cheaper use doesn't matter since the game showers you with cash and Volke's prices are dead cheap. Still, if you get Volke killed or have a map where multiple thieves can be useful he can be worth deploying.
    Soren's arguably the best combat unit in the Japanese version since that version has the 100% crit thunder tome glitch, and he can combo vantage and adept together.
    How to use Astrid: Have her chip or even kill units in her join map then canto to safety, dump bexp which will be cheaper with her paragon, promote and grab axes, give her forged hand axes and a forged steel axe, profit. If only she were this good in the next game...

  • @elquiu1566
    @elquiu1566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i dunno man, i think soren is way supperior than the other mages, definately not on the same level as illyana
    also, i think stefan should be higher? his weapon is pretty amazing, and for the time he joins he has amazing stats, even if he's swordlocked i think he deserves better :"3
    and geoffrey, why u judge him like that, poor guy ;n;
    the one i very much agree on is ulki, but that is not stopping me from using him xd best boy, i love him

  • @sharebear421
    @sharebear421 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nephenee was a lower house for me. Probably my favorite PoR unit

  • @shadowdeath702
    @shadowdeath702 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll start by saying I'm aware it's a massive sink of the bonus exp but: Ena is cracked. Easily God tier broken if you've saved up your bonus exp from the entire freaking game lol

    • @shadowdeath702
      @shadowdeath702 ปีที่แล้ว

      Replying to myself as I watch the video
      Rolf is also GOD tier but requires a lot to go into the stage you get him. You need to craft the strongest bow he can get with max attack buffs. Give it to him on the stage you get him and continue to shoot, shove/rescue, repeat against the boss until he's a good level. Then he's caught up on the level you get him.

    • @shadowdeath702
      @shadowdeath702 ปีที่แล้ว

      I cannot get behind wasting the early game exp on an already promoted unit as the number 1 choice lol
      Over all great video. I play the game differently obviously and that's okay

  • @Luffy-fw8nd
    @Luffy-fw8nd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite character here is Oscar beacause he has lot damage and tanky enough to take heavy damages and Zihark because his attack has a high crit ratio😁

  • @sootythunder3111
    @sootythunder3111 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Astrid just snowballed for me, the level after I got her has a bunch of bridges on it, just had my two armored knights stand side by side with no weapons with Astrid behind them fire bow canto out mist heal rinse and repeat, she almost promoted by the end of that level, when she did I gave her a hand axe and she never misses and doubles on everything

  • @wowwar2
    @wowwar2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like swords and axes are easily the best, especially axes. I think spears are the worst just because their aren't too many enemies in fire emblem games that have swords, the early maps have brigands with axes and the later maps have knights with both axes and spears, but swords are mostly used by the heroes.

    • @sootythunder3111
      @sootythunder3111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are actually a decent amount of sword users in this game, swords are without a doubt the worst weapon to have your characters be stuck with, they have no range counters, axes get hand Axes, and spears get javelins allowing them to counter archers

  • @TheNeoLoneWolf
    @TheNeoLoneWolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This list took a while to make. Maybe the next game should be something quick like final fantasy 4. I'm surprised you haven't done 4 yet.

  • @fragarar1595
    @fragarar1595 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mia is baby girl

  • @joshuadelorme-novakowski2114
    @joshuadelorme-novakowski2114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fair list, however Stefan needs to higher tier. Prepromotes are just super OP, even if they aren't the most optimal class.
    Also, Astrid should be above Kieran. Boyd on a horse is nice, but Paragon allows her to be stupidly proficient with Exp, alongside Knight's Ward and Steel Axes on Promotions, making her a monster. And Zihark and Mia prob should be switched, since Zihark has higher bases, slightly higher growths and Adept, while Mia just has arguably better supports, and higher availability, Which doesn't really amount to much (Not super important anyways)

  • @wongabonga7735
    @wongabonga7735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    im curious on how u judge these units. Is this based on low turn counts or just how useful they are?

  • @EmblemSnake
    @EmblemSnake 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally Makalov and Astrid belong on low middle.

  • @aleisterleopold6229
    @aleisterleopold6229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude. The Begneon ark is mid game. what are you talking about ch8-10 being mid game?

  • @farahinnisa2116
    @farahinnisa2116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Couple withh- nah im jk

  • @legendofsonic3979
    @legendofsonic3979 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rolf not being in shit tier is a strange choice. An archer with poor base stats and below average end game potential, that's all that Rolf is. He has no advantages over the units in shit tier, in fact Taureno is really damn good for endgame for enemy phase tanking. I disagree with a fair few choices here but Rolf is the one that stands out the most.

    • @locloudanerpg
      @locloudanerpg  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gained earlier in the game than the others is mostly the reason.

  • @iguy6571
    @iguy6571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Illyana and Soren are DEFINITELY not interchangeable. Soren has 10% more growths than Illyana in both speed and magic.

    • @AlexaRobin21
      @AlexaRobin21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Okay, so at which level does Soren gets more magic or speed than Illyana?

    • @iguy6571
      @iguy6571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlexaRobin21 idk, most levels.

    • @Friendguystarcraft
      @Friendguystarcraft 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Level 10 on Soren has better stats on average plus he comes with adept. Ilyana and him are still largely interchangeable tho but Soren is slightly better. Ilyana’s best selling point is being a higher level when you get her but bexp is so abundant that it doesn’t really matter

  • @wJermell0
    @wJermell0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First off I want to say pretty good tier list but I did have a couple issues
    Nasir is not shit tier, he's got enough speed to not be doubled by the final boss and he's got pretty good stats as long as you're not comparing him to the enemy dragons, you'll probably need him if you're playing on hard. Mia however...yeah she has lots of availability but she's just so WEAK. What's the point if I can't DAMAGE the enemy? I'd make her low tier. Rolf is a shit tier. He comes way too late to be of any use and even when trained you gets someone that's what? Comparable to Shinon? bleh. You're also underselling Geoffrey a little bit.

    • @locloudanerpg
      @locloudanerpg  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great points! Thanks for the feedback!

  • @lunaproc4913
    @lunaproc4913 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I might be the only person to never use Mia

    • @lunaproc4913
      @lunaproc4913 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok but I dislike her so not using her still

  • @harm991
    @harm991 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why Marcia lol

  • @vsolyomi
    @vsolyomi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best Shining Force I-II characters?

  • @pyguy7
    @pyguy7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wait. in most fire emblem games arent sword classes better than axes (not including weapon triangle) I typically hear that axes are the worst of the weapon triangle units

    • @nachohangover5104
      @nachohangover5104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Axes were bad in the early games but that wasn't even due to the weapon triangle most of the time. In FE1 no axe units could promote, in FE2 no axe users are even playable, in FE3 again no axe units, FE4 axes have terrible weight stats making all of them useless except the brave axe. In FE5 they're actually good, in FE6 their hit stats are awful so axes are bad again.
      Every game after 6, axes are fine if not the best weapon type. There certainly are plenty of bad axe units in the games after 6 but it's not a problem with the weapon type itself.
      Honestly swords are probably historically worse than axes at this point. Lack of 1-2 range and low power has had them be one of the worse weapon types in every game after 6 except SoV.

    • @technicallythecenteroftheu1349
      @technicallythecenteroftheu1349 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Swords are generally considered the worst of the basic weapon triangle because in FE6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, and 13, there are no common swords that have 1-2 range. (This is also the case in FE15 and 16 but the mechanics of those games don't make that a problem.) Furthermore, in FE10, while swords have reliable 1-2 range, you can only forge swords that have 1 range. So for half the games in the series, being swordlocked is a huge hit to viability.

    • @kentknightofcaelin4537
      @kentknightofcaelin4537 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@technicallythecenteroftheu1349 swords are good in fe6 though.

  • @Nate-ms4be
    @Nate-ms4be 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe I'm just bad or something but this game is pretty difficult and basically all of the units that aren't Laguz are kinda shit

  • @blackchappel6376
    @blackchappel6376 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bhahahha that ending though 😂😂😂

  • @alexandrejesus8709
    @alexandrejesus8709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ike, Rolf,jill, nephenee for me
    Totally disagree with titania always remove her weapons and use her to draw aggro then bench her..
    Every run i did these 3 always got insane stat ups and i played this game a looot

    • @aleisshiki3649
      @aleisshiki3649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Someone needs to watch fire emblem pitfalls :p

    • @alexandrejesus8709
      @alexandrejesus8709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aleisshiki3649 i ma not against pre promotes.. but dang not titania i have at least played 30 to 50 times that game and i always hate her stat distribution
      For example Seth never failed me, but titania ...

    • @nachohangover5104
      @nachohangover5104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexandrejesus8709 Titania has almost the same bases and growths as Seth, except Titania can use axes which are even better than lances, gets Tellius canto, and has access to the forge.
      Titania is the third best unit in the game at worst, tons of availability, great stats when you get her, and solid performance throughout the whole game. Even if you manage to get unlucky or if her growths weren't good her earlygame performance alone would make her useful.
      Honestly, I'm surprised Rolf didn't get Shit tier and managed for low tier. His bases are awful, is footlocked in a game where mounts are even more busted than usual, and bowlocked in a game where 1-2 range is king. These are just the problems he's stuck with when trained, let's not forget how much investment he requires to get any use out of him at all. Yes he's fine if trained (as fine as a bowlocked infantry unit can be in this game) but you could just put those resources into units that start better and/or end up better.

    • @alexandrejesus8709
      @alexandrejesus8709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nachohangover5104 i know but i always get shafted with her so after the tenth playthrough i stopped using her. Like she always gets critted for example so she is my cursed unit

    • @hylianfelldragon1308
      @hylianfelldragon1308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alexandrejesus8709 Since we're going by Personal experience (Which BTW, isn't substantial when discussing objective unit viability.) If Titania is consistently dying by enemy crits, why not give her Ashera Icons and have her equip the Sword Band to help mitigate this issue?

  • @jordandaigle6227
    @jordandaigle6227 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lemme guess... Titania?
    Edit: Knew it

  • @crosswalkX
    @crosswalkX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to disagree with you on Reyson.
    I don't like Reyson at all, he is very weak and it's a pain to have him wait 5 turns to change into a bird, he has 5 movement which makes it hard to keep up, unless you give him a Celerity or use a Laguz Stone which has limited uses. I don't like that he can't fight back and he's very weak against archer units and can die very easily and is easily targeted by enemy units.
    Yes while you can give up to 4 units a second turn, it doesn't change the fact that he's a weak unit. I'd rather skip using Reyson and replace him with Princess Crimea.
    Also I don't even like the Laguz units in the game since they can't fight unless they're transformed into beasts unless they're flying bird unit characters.
    Seriously I'd rather have Jill, Marcia, Mist, Ike instead or units with bow and arrows. I never want to use Reyson ever again.