Hornady outfitter is loaded with a far better hunting bullet for big heavy game but goats have VERY thin skin. People think goats are bulletproof and end up poking holes in them over and over. I’ve guided many and the fastest kills are with deer type bullets . The eldx is a great choice because it opens up fast . Either way …have a great time !
I agree with you 100%! Too many people use a tougher bullet and it just seems to pass through the goats. I shot mine with a Hornady SST and it dropped like a sack of potatoes
Interesting results. I get half inch groups with the precision hunter out of both my creedmoor's. I'll have to try out the outfitter round to see how it compares.
My 308 loves the Precision Hunter 178 grain. They’re super consistent loads and it shoots 1/2 MOA with them at 100-300 yards except one out of probably 20 rounds breaks out to about an inch at 100.
I used the 180 grain gmx from my commercial mauser 98 centurion 123 30. 06 and its a winner. Drops deer in their tracks so im sure it will take down elk and moose just as easy. I have mine set for 3 inches high at 100 yards for a 230 yards zero. Perfect round or hunting, 65 a box, abit expensive but its all worth it when that first bullet goes into a deer, elk, moose, caribou. I love hunting.
Didn’t see whether the rifle is threaded or not or if you have a muzzle brake, but your rifle has a considerable muzzle rise, up and to the left. Again, consistency is key with any shooting position or equipment. Consider a muzzle brake such as the Ultradyne Apollo Max or similar or just shoot it without one. You may get a bit more consistency if you preload your bipod a bit! I was successful at downing a cow elk last week with the Hornady 162 gr ELDX. One double lung shot was all I needed at 407 yards with my SAKO S20 in 7mm Rem Mag. I tested different bullets and can honestly say that a rifle tends to like one bullet over other weights and even brands. I trust Hornady’s brand and their 4DOF app. Hasn’t failed me yet!
I have a Tikka T3x tac and it shoots perfect with precision hunter. I tested with other Hornady ammo and it shoots perfect with all of them but the optic is setup with precision.
It looks like to me, esp when compared to Federal ammo, that the factory velocity on Hornady is significantly slower when shot thru the same barrel. And haven't you come close to factory velocity with more Federal ammo? I am beginning to wonder if they are skimping on powder given the crazy situation with ammo since Covid began...
damn now lm not sure what to do. l just bought Bergara 14 HMR in 6.5 creedmoore and l wanted to buy precision hunter eld-x for it. l like GMX a lot but my 243winb and 308win just wont do good groups with superformance gmx. Outfiter is no so fast as superformance.
@@travisleedom2083 money no problem so far thanx god :) here is one box (20 bullets) 50-60 euro. I tested many so far and still looking for the right one. Good video btw.
@@jacobpind2239 I have both. ELD-x and Outfitter. ELD-x group is 0.5 moa, outfitter group is 2 moa. I also have Bergara B14 sporter in 6.5 creed and groups are the same.
Every rifle is different. Just because his rifle liked the outfitter doesn't mean yours will. In fact he could get the same ammo but from a different lot and it could perform quite different.
I have the same gun, and mine wouldn’t shoot the factory precision hunter eldx ammo either. However, after reloading using this bullet and getting it closer to the lands, a whole different story dime size groups. All you accomplished here was seeing what COAL the gun likes.
Good video impressive group I have a tikka t3 roughtech that grouped .23 inch with the precision hunter, other factory loads are about an inch….just got a box of the outfitter ammo and am excited to try it out !!
Curious how the Creedmoor did on the goat, I shot my goat with a 7 LRM and with well placed shot it refused to die. They are really tough. I would think the Outfitter ammo is definitely the way to go.
brentigo had a few issues with the camera the evening we killed my goat. But got some great footage and should be able to put something together and hopefully show the adventure!! It will drop on switchback outdoors TH-cam channel, no date in particular haha.
New subscriber here. Great video. I'm a little surprised at your results. But I own the exact same gun you have there. I might have to try some of that Outfitter stuff in mine. I shoot the Norma Bondstrike 143 gainers out of mine about 1/2 inch 3 shot groups. Very happy with the gun!!
they say the .22lr are picky with ammo but that will translate to all rifles actually. I run a howl 1500 6.5 creed at the moment, 18.5" barrel 1/8 twist and a 4" front mounted suppressor. best bullet is the 160gr RN from hornady but all the coppers from barnes works flawless. the same ammo you used, precision hunter coups a bit under .5 at a 100 in mine so thinking that one type is the best for all would result in no way. all guns are different and like different "food"
Good review. Just a little bit of info but don’t believe what the box tells you about velocity. Best to chronograph it yourself out of your rifle. Most factory ammo is way less than what it claims on the box. This is because they use 24” to 26” test barrels and not real world hunting barrels. Also the deviation between shots if too extreme causes wider groups. Maybe a good bullet and hand loading could produce better groups where you have more control over deviations
How did the Outfitter ammunition perform? And at what distance did you shoot the goat? Wanting to shoot this ammunition out of my 6.5 Creedmoor for mule deer hunting! awesome review video👍🏼
Adrian Villa i shot my goat front on, exited out the rear quarter and just devastated everything inside the chest cavity. I can only image the retention of the bullet was in the upper 90% range.
My t3x superlite did alright with the GMX as well 👍 only thing I would say which certainly shouldn’t make as big of grouping difference as you saw is that when switching from lead to copper bullets one always seems to act funny in my experience. I’ve heard it’s from the different hardness of the coppers in your barrel, could be false, but idk. My guns seem to agree.
I shoot those outfitter gmXs out of my nosler 48 and kimber lite both 6.5 cms and they both shoot three shots touching at 100 yards. I am impressed with them! That tikka looks like it has a ton of recoil for a 6.5 cm 🤷🏻♂️. Shoots good though!
You switch to a bipod at 200 , I always shoot like iam hunting . The edl might have done better off the bag at 200 . Interesting video cause I ordered 2 boxes of outfitter two days ago .
I actually shot my goat front on through the chest, exited the rear ham. So definitely had some penetration!! It didn’t take one step either so I would say job well done.
Thanks for comparison, great shooting too. I've been shooting 6.5 ELDX handloads, but thinking of switching to GMX (all copper) to hunt in Cali. I know this was over a year ago, but how did the GMX work for you on your hunt? Effective kill power? Thanks
I just changed to gmx bullets in my .300 win mag this year. I hand load them super accurate and damn at some penetration. Killed a big doe yesterday 275 yards solid shoulder hit massive wound channel and was a complete pass thru with a large exit hole. I know the 300 is much bigger than the 6.5 but still a deep penetrating bullet none the less. Would recommend this bullet to any hunter with any caliber.
@@joshradford1989 thanks a lot, much appreciated. Yeah anything in .300 will kick some ass! I just picked up some of the newer Hornady GMX 6.5 140 gr. Still working on load development but so far looks promising. Note they’re pretty long bullets so current loads are compressed a little in 6.5 cm cases. Too bad not a whole lot of load data yet for these newer GMXs. My buddy’s 6.5 PRC is extremely potent too with a little lighter recoil than the comparable long actions.
i have bergara b 14 hmr 24" barrel an b 14 sport 20" barrel. outfitter doesnt make good groups out of ich. precision hunter does very good group under 0.5 inch/100m
Just because your gun doesn’t shoot the ELD-X well does not make it a bad round!!! I shoot 1/4 in groups at 100 with my Griffin & Howe Highlander and consistently ring the 12 inch iron plate at 500.
You might ditch the 9 inch bipod and use a bag as a front support and tuck your support hand under the rear of the stock, your position although may be steady looking through the scope probably doesn’t offer good follow though. You may get get results out of the eld x by building a better position and getting rid of the bipod, however your groups were pretty decent with the other ammo so maybe it just doesn’t like it, my Tikka hammers with the eldx
when you showed that ELD at 100 yds I was like "wow you are a really bad shot" until you showed the GMX and I seriously bet you've won competition shootings. Those are insane groups! (dont let these old asses talk you down sayin "oh ya i hit half inch groups at 600 yds" bunch of bs)
i guess if he wanted to shoot the eldx he will have to hand load and find the power and charce weight i here they dont like to go to fast i just picked up the same gun for my kid have to get rings and a scope then i will try the 143eldx thats the bullet i would like to shoot
unfortunately you are restricted to the powder, primer and over all length of the factory ammo. if you where to load this bullet using different components and O.A.L, id bet you could find a combo that would shoot well at targets. for hunting.... I play it differently... I call it "hunting accuracy". I will not shoot past a give range, to develop that range I use the ballistics numbers from the chrono. 400 yards is my personal limit. if I can hit a 6" circle at max range and the 1800ft.lbs (for elk) are there, I am happy. At 100 yds. It will print around 1" or slightly over. the limits are lifted when you load your own, I would encourage you to learn from a vet re-loader if you have no experience. but the point is that the bullet is probably not the issue. if you are dead set on shooting a given bullet, factory ammo will limit your abilities from gun to gun
Last time I checked 1.5moa would bag your deer every time inside of ethical hunting distances. Even O'Conner and Whelen agreed that anything under 2-2.5" at 100 yards was perfectly acceptable and sufficiently accurate.
Looks like you punched those holes with a screwdriver 🪛 lol jks great video you know what I'm shooting this November. Awesome set u as well cool video 👍🏾
Hornady outfitter is loaded with a far better hunting bullet for big heavy game but goats have VERY thin skin. People think goats are bulletproof and end up poking holes in them over and over. I’ve guided many and the fastest kills are with deer type bullets . The eldx is a great choice because it opens up fast . Either way …have a great time !
I agree with you 100%! Too many people use a tougher bullet and it just seems to pass through the goats. I shot mine with a Hornady SST and it dropped like a sack of potatoes
Finally found me some hornady outfitter for my tikka 270wsm...pumped up to try them. My first all copper bullet
Every rifle/barrel is different. My Christianson arms ridgline 6.5 prc LOVES the 143 eldx. Many sub half moa groups. Shot what your gun likes.
Hands down best ammo I have shit out of my Ruger 6.5 go wild addition
The outfitter gmx puts 1” groups up all day long from my two Rem. 700’s in 7mm mag. It also put a nice mule deer down for me this year. I’m sold.
plus don’t have to worry about led in your meat
Good video. Straight to the point as it should be.
Interesting results. I get half inch groups with the precision hunter out of both my creedmoor's. I'll have to try out the outfitter round to see how it compares.
jerry mcmackin yeah dad loves that round out of his Christensen. Kind of funny how each gun likes something else
My 308 loves the Precision Hunter 178 grain. They’re super consistent loads and it shoots 1/2 MOA with them at 100-300 yards except one out of probably 20 rounds breaks out to about an inch at 100.
My tikka 6.5 wouldn’t shoot 143s either man. It loved anything around the 120 grain mark. Great video.!
I used the 180 grain gmx from my commercial mauser 98 centurion 123 30. 06 and its a winner. Drops deer in their tracks so im sure it will take down elk and moose just as easy. I have mine set for 3 inches high at 100 yards for a 230 yards zero. Perfect round or hunting, 65 a box, abit expensive but its all worth it when that first bullet goes into a deer, elk, moose, caribou. I love hunting.
Dang, my weatherby loves the 143 eldx. All bullets were touching at 100 yds.
Didn’t see whether the rifle is threaded or not or if you have a muzzle brake, but your rifle has a considerable muzzle rise, up and to the left. Again, consistency is key with any shooting position or equipment.
Consider a muzzle brake such as the Ultradyne Apollo Max or similar or just shoot it without one.
You may get a bit more consistency if you preload your bipod a bit!
I was successful at downing a cow elk last week with the Hornady 162 gr ELDX. One double lung shot was all I needed at 407 yards with my SAKO S20 in 7mm Rem Mag.
I tested different bullets and can honestly say that a rifle tends to like one bullet over other weights and even brands. I trust Hornady’s brand and their 4DOF app. Hasn’t failed me yet!
How did you do on your sheep hunt? Have any pictures or video?
Thanks for sharing.
I have a Tikka T3x tac and it shoots perfect with precision hunter. I tested with other Hornady ammo and it shoots perfect with all of them but the optic is setup with precision.
It looks like to me, esp when compared to Federal ammo, that the factory velocity on Hornady is significantly slower when shot thru the same barrel. And haven't you come close to factory velocity with more Federal ammo? I am beginning to wonder if they are skimping on powder given the crazy situation with ammo since Covid began...
damn now lm not sure what to do. l just bought Bergara 14 HMR in 6.5 creedmoore and l wanted to buy precision hunter eld-x for it. l like GMX a lot but my 243winb and 308win just wont do good groups with superformance gmx. Outfiter is no so fast as superformance.
spacepathfinder1 try them all man! I know financial 25-35 bucks a box it adds up, but always keep an open mind.
@@travisleedom2083 money no problem so far thanx god :) here is one box (20 bullets) 50-60 euro. I tested many so far and still looking for the right one. Good video btw.
I have a 6.5 creedmoor Bergara hmr 14 and it loves the eld-x so I would definitely get them if I was you
@@jacobpind2239 I have both. ELD-x and Outfitter. ELD-x group is 0.5 moa, outfitter group is 2 moa. I also have Bergara B14 sporter in 6.5 creed and groups are the same.
Every rifle is different. Just because his rifle liked the outfitter doesn't mean yours will. In fact he could get the same ammo but from a different lot and it could perform quite different.
I have the same gun, and mine wouldn’t shoot the factory precision hunter eldx ammo either. However, after reloading using this bullet and getting it closer to the lands, a whole different story dime size groups. All you accomplished here was seeing what COAL the gun likes.
Think that was kind of his goal captain obvious
Thank you 😊
Interesting. My custom 6 mm creedmoore will shoot 3 inch groups with the precision hunter ammo at 600 yards.
Good video impressive group I have a tikka t3 roughtech that grouped .23 inch with the precision hunter, other factory loads are about an inch….just got a box of the outfitter ammo and am excited to try it out !!
My Tikka shoots those 143 gr ELDX like a dream!! 5 shot groups everything touching 1/2” groups
Curious how the Creedmoor did on the goat, I shot my goat with a 7 LRM and with well placed shot it refused to die. They are really tough. I would think the Outfitter ammo is definitely the way to go.
Great video. Very interesting . May have to give it a try in my tikka ctr 6.5. Good luck on the hunt. Hope you can video it.
brentigo had a few issues with the camera the evening we killed my goat. But got some great footage and should be able to put something together and hopefully show the adventure!! It will drop on switchback outdoors TH-cam channel, no date in particular haha.
@@travisleedom2083 Haha always the way. Look forward to seeing what you come up with.
New subscriber here. Great video. I'm a little surprised at your results. But I own the exact same gun you have there. I might have to try some of that Outfitter stuff in mine. I shoot the Norma Bondstrike 143 gainers out of mine about 1/2 inch 3 shot groups. Very happy with the gun!!
I’m going to try it. Thanks for the info.
Great video. And, great shooting! I just picked up some of the Outfitter in .270 win and can’t wait to see how it performs in my rifle this weekend!
How'd she like it in .270?
How did your first video shooting eld x have different results???
they say the .22lr are picky with ammo but that will translate to all rifles actually. I run a howl 1500 6.5 creed at the moment, 18.5" barrel 1/8 twist and a 4" front mounted suppressor. best bullet is the 160gr RN from hornady but all the coppers from barnes works flawless. the same ammo you used, precision hunter coups a bit under .5 at a 100 in mine so thinking that one type is the best for all would result in no way. all guns are different and like different "food"
Interesting now that I've done bought the precision hunter ugh
Just goes to show you how each rifle is different in what ammo it likes!
my bergara shoot 143s within 0.5" 100m. Next to try is outfitter.
Keep uploading man‼️
Im Trail thank you!
I have that gun and have taken deer with the Eldx,great comfortable, low recoil.Good video
How much for a box for my 300 H - H 70 W.M.
Good review. Just a little bit of info but don’t believe what the box tells you about velocity. Best to chronograph it yourself out of your rifle. Most factory ammo is way less than what it claims on the box. This is because they use 24” to 26” test barrels and not real world hunting barrels. Also the deviation between shots if too extreme causes wider groups. Maybe a good bullet and hand loading could produce better groups where you have more control over deviations
How did the Outfitter ammunition perform? And at what distance did you shoot the goat? Wanting to shoot this ammunition out of my 6.5 Creedmoor for mule deer hunting! awesome review video👍🏼
Adrian Villa i shot my goat front on, exited out the rear quarter and just devastated everything inside the chest cavity. I can only image the retention of the bullet was in the upper 90% range.
My t3x superlite did alright with the GMX as well 👍 only thing I would say which certainly shouldn’t make as big of grouping difference as you saw is that when switching from lead to copper bullets one always seems to act funny in my experience. I’ve heard it’s from the different hardness of the coppers in your barrel, could be false, but idk. My guns seem to agree.
I shoot those outfitter gmXs out of my nosler 48 and kimber lite both 6.5 cms and they both shoot three shots touching at 100 yards. I am impressed with them! That tikka looks like it has a ton of recoil for a 6.5 cm 🤷🏻♂️. Shoots good though!
Yeah, it was snappy. That gun without a scope weighed around 5.5. I don’t own it anymore but do have a few other tikkas.
Nice Vid, will try the GMX on my 6.5.
You switch to a bipod at 200 , I always shoot like iam hunting . The edl might have done better off the bag at 200 . Interesting video cause I ordered 2 boxes of outfitter two days ago .
Mike Adams I have my bipod on at 200, just using a pack as a rear rest. I agree in keeping it consistent.
Anyone firing tikka ctr in creed what factory ammo ye use?
So strange. Normally gmx are not as accurate. Cool it is. Eldx is fancy cup and core with a tip.
Nice Superlite.
how did the gmx bullet perform on the goats ?
I actually shot my goat front on through the chest, exited the rear ham. So definitely had some penetration!! It didn’t take one step either so I would say job well done.
weird, with that rifle being a 1/8 twist you’d think it’d do better with the heavier round
GMX is lead free right?
Yes, lead free. Very durable too.
Thanks for comparison, great shooting too. I've been shooting 6.5 ELDX handloads, but thinking of switching to GMX (all copper) to hunt in Cali. I know this was over a year ago, but how did the GMX work for you on your hunt? Effective kill power? Thanks
I just changed to gmx bullets in my .300 win mag this year. I hand load them super accurate and damn at some penetration. Killed a big doe yesterday 275 yards solid shoulder hit massive wound channel and was a complete pass thru with a large exit hole. I know the 300 is much bigger than the 6.5 but still a deep penetrating bullet none the less. Would recommend this bullet to any hunter with any caliber.
@@joshradford1989 thanks a lot, much appreciated. Yeah anything in .300 will kick some ass! I just picked up some of the newer Hornady GMX 6.5 140 gr. Still working on load development but so far looks promising. Note they’re pretty long bullets so current loads are compressed a little in 6.5 cm cases. Too bad not a whole lot of load data yet for these newer GMXs. My buddy’s 6.5 PRC is extremely potent too with a little lighter recoil than the comparable long actions.
How did that ammo work for you on game?
i have bergara b 14 hmr 24" barrel an b 14 sport 20" barrel. outfitter doesnt make good groups out of ich. precision hunter does very good group under 0.5 inch/100m
Awesome video
Just because your gun doesn’t shoot the ELD-X well does not make it a bad round!!! I shoot 1/4 in groups at 100 with my Griffin & Howe Highlander and consistently ring the 12 inch iron plate at 500.
Not at all! I shoot the 200 gr Eldx out of my 300 wm. Just have to take what the gun tells you to do.
If you hand load that ELD X 143gr would tighten right up
Good video, but I would rather see the targets instead. Don't know why most videos shows the shooters!
Video skills… or lack there of haha!
It really doesn’t like eld x wow. Same rifle only Camo stainless fluted Cabela’s special and it loves eld white and Berger Hybrid Hunter
Dude talking about your shooting position SMH, that’s some good shooting man.
You might ditch the 9 inch bipod and use a bag as a front support and tuck your support hand under the rear of the stock, your position although may be steady looking through the scope probably doesn’t offer good follow though. You may get get results out of the eld x by building a better position and getting rid of the bipod, however your groups were pretty decent with the other ammo so maybe it just doesn’t like it, my Tikka hammers with the eldx
Yep that Rifle was all over the place, even to the point it tipped off the left bipod leg.
when you showed that ELD at 100 yds I was like "wow you are a really bad shot" until you showed the GMX and I seriously bet you've won competition shootings. Those are insane groups! (dont let these old asses talk you down sayin "oh ya i hit half inch groups at 600 yds" bunch of bs)
Eric Cortina really can!!
i guess if he wanted to shoot the eldx he will have to hand load and find the power and charce weight i here they dont like to go to fast i just picked up the same gun for my kid have to get rings and a scope then i will try the 143eldx thats the bullet i would like to shoot
Great video exactly what I needed to know keep it up Buddy
Groups don’t lie! Set our opinion to the side and let the gun do the selecting.
unfortunately you are restricted to the powder, primer and over all length of the factory ammo. if you where to load this bullet using different components and O.A.L, id bet you could find a combo that would shoot well at targets. for hunting.... I play it differently... I call it "hunting accuracy". I will not shoot past a give range, to develop that range I use the ballistics numbers from the chrono. 400 yards is my personal limit. if I can hit a 6" circle at max range and the 1800ft.lbs (for elk) are there, I am happy. At 100 yds. It will print around 1" or slightly over. the limits are lifted when you load your own, I would encourage you to learn from a vet re-loader if you have no experience. but the point is that the bullet is probably not the issue. if you are dead set on shooting a given bullet, factory ammo will limit your abilities from gun to gun
forgot to add that I use both bullets in my M77 Hawkeye with an extra 4" on my match barrel. but I roll my own to obtain the accuracy I desire.
Man those eld x suck ass out your gun , my 243 shoots like a dream at 200 with the 90g eldx
Last time I checked 1.5moa would bag your deer every time inside of ethical hunting distances. Even O'Conner and Whelen agreed that anything under 2-2.5" at 100 yards was perfectly acceptable and sufficiently accurate.
Hornady 👎
Looks like you punched those holes with a screwdriver 🪛 lol jks great video you know what I'm shooting this November. Awesome set u as well cool video 👍🏾
Good video I’m starting to switch over to the outfitters mysekf
Great video