After working in aviation for almost a decade, I recommend applying your choice of thread lube onto the male and female threads. You don't have to use more, just half on one then the other
@@chriswilder583 Agree with you. While it will coat both, the issue becomes as you thread the two. The male end will push some in front of it and won't interface between the two where it matters.
Thank you Gavin, this is the content I'm looking for. Also... Can confirm: Using your torque wrench as a breaker bar will "F" it up... Failed to instruct one of my boys on that... I now have a long, heavy, expensive paperweight. Use a breaker bar.
SAC Barrel vise is my go too now... for stuborn actions E.G. Rem 700's, I use a small bottle jack shop press, appropriate aluminum bushings and rosin. Paired with a relief cut groove near the shoulder from the lathe, Itll get the most stuborn actions off
Myself, being a product of the early -60’s, I find these types of videos especially interesting, as they are about how to actually do things, something that was in the periodicals of old, but, are now generally absent, as most are simply advertising.
Thanks for the info you provide Gavin! Because of content like this I got a short action customs bravo and modular action wrench to swap barrels and am loving it
Great content and informative if not super relatable for the average garage diy’er because who doesn’t have a $40,000 lathe in their shop in the off chance they can’t find the appropriate barrel vice?!
I like a dentist that makes a dental visit not feel like I’m getting a tooth pulled. Nice work Gavin! I truely enjoy your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Even if I will might never install a barrel, I really enjoyed this video. Maybe because it is something that I might do. Most of the other things that you do are good to know, but I know that I would never do them. They are out of my price range or I don't have that kind of space to build something like you have.
Swapping a barrel out that has a nut is incredibly easy. Shouldered barrels (pre fits) are convenient but it takes me about 15 mins to swap between my 6.5CM and my 7 Sherman barrels.
Great video and information. Also, SAC is really providing a lot of Top Shelf tolls and equipment to make GS, reloading & shooting faster and better. Everything of their’s that I have tried has exceeded my expectations.
Tried the SAC modular on my Tikka T3x… snapped the lugs of the wrench head. Sent to Gunsmith… They snapped an action wrench too. Had to send the gun to Beretta to get the barrel off…
Looks like the first barrel and action you assembled was a Zeus action with the quick change barrel set screw. This action used the shoulder on the barrel to set the headspace and no torque is reqiured. You just twist the barrel and tighten the set screw on both sides.
Really been enjoying following your videos, I’ve had the SAC Barrel for a while, slick & quick when you can use it, beats big & ugly. Using the scope mounting set up on the same mounting plate is slick to. They’re pretty sharp at SAC. Thanks again Gavin for all your great content.
When a locking compound (red Locktite for example) is used on a factory action, is fire an option? The procedure would be to apply enough heat to melt the compound but not enough to warp or discolor the barrel or action. I know mechanics run into this all the time and the expectation is that the torch will be used. Also, when a barrel is simply too tight, heating the barrel, from the outside obviously, will expand it a little and may loosen it enough to be removed.
It is true to not use a torque wrench to loosen anything. It is designed only for tightening and can be ruined by untightening bolts and whatever else it is used to tighten. Also, for the best accuracy, you should never have your hand on the head of the torque wrench when you tighten something. It gives inaccurate torque otherwise. Nice vids though. I always learn something when I watch them.
I was thinking the same with that hand on the torque wrench. And yes I have ruined a good torque wrench from using it on stubborn equipment where a breaker bar should be used. Cheers
My Wilton vice has jaws for holding round stock with some gnarly teeth for holding the barrel and for the receiver I got the biggest pipe wrench that Harbor Freight sells. It works awesome, never slips and the marks it leaves is like a signature, better than laser engraving. Don't try to copy my technique, it's patented and I can spot a fake a mile away, literally.
If I understood the point of you installing the barrel using the Lathes Chuck Jaws. That technique creates extremely uniform rigidity of the fixture, correct? I would assume because of the rigidity of the Chuck Jaws during the Torque operation which ultimately creates a better crush as the barrel seats? How does the Grease effect Torque Values 10%, 20% or more?😊
Question are factory barrelled actions like howa Remington etc super over torqued? Reason I ask is I did a howa 1500 semi custom project rebuilding it from more hunting style rifle to something or suited for prs. When I tried to remove the factory barrel I had one heck of a time getting off before taking to a local gunsmith. When I got the action back he asked if I wanted the barrel back because he said he may need to part a section off. He further when on that when the action finally came off it sounded like a round went off! Just asking if that’s just a one off phenomenon or big box factory actions are just like that to keep in mind…side note love your content and thank you for inspiring me to study and learn gunsmithing
Need some help ladies and gents. I have a very old Rem 700 .243. The factory barrel has had do serious use over almost 2 decades. I need to find replacement heavy barrel options I can hopefully just order and leave with a gunsmith to install. Any information on what and where to buy would be awesome!
Great that your promoting short action customs BUT..... .they have been out of stock for a while on alot of their kits. Can you find out when there going to be back in stock ?
I just started building my own rifles. I have the Short Action Customs Bravo vice and module action wrench set to start. Just waiting on my actions and pre-fit barrels to come in.
Hi Gavin i learn more From your nice videos i have question it’s passable to modify barrel of machine gun MG42 cal7.62x51 install in rem700 or savage action Please make one project will be nice we need see the accuracy for that heavy barrel Thanks
Gavin: I build inexpensive but accurate rifles in South Texas. I have been using Yugo / Mauser actions for price/performance value, installing custom barrels on them, Timmy triggers and stock of customers choice. These run from 22-250 to 308 and 30.06 with good results. I have been using the HF hydraulic press barrel vise and rosin technique to get em off and the lathe to put em back on. I am curious though. When is the best TIR repeatability you can get out of your six jaw? I can't seem to get better than a couple of thou. BTW: I heard you came from the IT world. I did too. Was a tech writer in a Fortune 500 computer company in Engineering and later R&D.....way back in the 80s! Loved the video and subscribed
Great video Gavin. I know I am asking for something specialized, but have you ever encountered a barrel instal on a Walther KK500 .22 match rifle. I know that special machining is required for the extractor slots and on the tang. The barrels are glued into the action with an unknown adhesive. I see allot if these rifles at the matches I shoot and I believe there is a need for a proper way to rebarrel this very popular match smallbore action. Thanks again.
Yes, with a 22 you can press fit the barrel tenon into the action and hold with cylinder sleeve adhesive. This stuff is LIKE but not exactly the same as loctite and is actually intended for use in resleeving large engines. For cutting the extractor relief cuts use a woodruff key seat cutter of the appropriate size. This can most easily be done on a mill, but can be done on a lathe with a tool post grinder with an end mill mounted in it. Hope this helps....good luck.
Hello Gavin. Have you ever removed the factory barrel from a Tikka T1X? I’ve heard some horror stories of broken bits, glued barrels and even some actions with ovoid shapes. What is curious is that there are several brands of aftermarket barrels for the rifle that are supposed to be a direct fit…
How do you torque a reverse threaded bolt!? A reverse threaded torque wrench!? That concept is a myth torque wrenches go both ways or you wouldn’t have a lever to change direction on the torque wrench
Good stuff ... a little surprised you didn't cover the use of a Go/NoGo gauge.
After working in aviation for almost a decade, I recommend applying your choice of thread lube onto the male and female threads. You don't have to use more, just half on one then the other
I'm a retired plumber of 35 years and you NEVER put lube on the female threads...Read the directions
@@chriswilder583 Agree with you. While it will coat both, the issue becomes as you thread the two. The male end will push some in front of it and won't interface between the two where it matters.
Thank you Gavin, this is the content I'm looking for.
Also... Can confirm: Using your torque wrench as a breaker bar will "F" it up... Failed to instruct one of my boys on that... I now have a long, heavy, expensive paperweight.
Use a breaker bar.
SAC Barrel vise is my go too now... for stuborn actions E.G. Rem 700's, I use a small bottle jack shop press, appropriate aluminum bushings and rosin. Paired with a relief cut groove near the shoulder from the lathe, Itll get the most stuborn actions off
Nice!
Myself, being a product of the early -60’s, I find these types of videos especially interesting, as they are about how to actually do things, something that was in the periodicals of old, but, are now generally absent, as most are simply advertising.
Thanks for the info you provide Gavin! Because of content like this I got a short action customs bravo and modular action wrench to swap barrels and am loving it
Great content and informative if not super relatable for the average garage diy’er because who doesn’t have a $40,000 lathe in their shop in the off chance they can’t find the appropriate barrel vice?!
I like a dentist that makes a dental visit not feel like I’m getting a tooth pulled. Nice work Gavin! I truely enjoy your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Even if I will might never install a barrel, I really enjoyed this video. Maybe because it is something that I might do. Most of the other things that you do are good to know, but I know that I would never do them. They are out of my price range or I don't have that kind of space to build something like you have.
Oder placed! I'll be putting a 7-35 Mk5 on mine and redoing the sponge camo to something a little more natural
Swapping a barrel out that has a nut is incredibly easy. Shouldered barrels (pre fits) are convenient but it takes me about 15 mins to swap between my 6.5CM and my 7 Sherman barrels.
Great video and information. Also, SAC is really providing a lot of Top Shelf tolls and equipment to make GS, reloading & shooting faster and better. Everything of their’s that I have tried has exceeded my expectations.
Tried the SAC modular on my Tikka T3x… snapped the lugs of the wrench head. Sent to Gunsmith… They snapped an action wrench too. Had to send the gun to Beretta to get the barrel off…
Great information. How about an additional segment on installing barrels with barrel nuts?
Looks like the first barrel and action you assembled was a Zeus action with the quick change barrel set screw. This action used the shoulder on the barrel to set the headspace and no torque is reqiured. You just twist the barrel and tighten the set screw on both sides.
Sure glad you showed us how you can use a lathe that 99%% of us don't have
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I was expecting a video hearing about sdi teaching how to install a barrel...
What are thoughts on grabbing down the barrel for switch-barrel changes (without removing the optic)?
Ah that lathe trick is clever. Never thought of that.
Really been enjoying following your videos, I’ve had the SAC Barrel for a while, slick & quick when you can use it, beats big & ugly. Using the scope mounting set up on the same mounting plate is slick to. They’re pretty sharp at SAC. Thanks again Gavin for all your great content.
When a locking compound (red Locktite for example) is used on a factory action, is fire an option? The procedure would be to apply enough heat to melt the compound but not enough to warp or discolor the barrel or action. I know mechanics run into this all the time and the expectation is that the torch will be used. Also, when a barrel is simply too tight, heating the barrel, from the outside obviously, will expand it a little and may loosen it enough to be removed.
It is true to not use a torque wrench to loosen anything. It is designed only for tightening and can be ruined by untightening bolts and whatever else it is used to tighten. Also, for the best accuracy, you should never have your hand on the head of the torque wrench when you tighten something. It gives inaccurate torque otherwise. Nice vids though. I always learn something when I watch them.
I was thinking the same with that hand on the torque wrench. And yes I have ruined a good torque wrench from using it on stubborn equipment where a breaker bar should be used. Cheers
We learn when we read instructions
My Wilton vice has jaws for holding round stock with some gnarly teeth for holding the barrel and for the receiver I got the biggest pipe wrench that Harbor Freight sells. It works awesome, never slips and the marks it leaves is like a signature, better than laser engraving. Don't try to copy my technique, it's patented and I can spot a fake a mile away, literally.
Gun plumbers everywhere agree!
If I understood the point of you installing the barrel using the Lathes Chuck Jaws. That technique creates extremely uniform rigidity of the fixture, correct? I would assume because of the rigidity of the Chuck Jaws during the Torque operation which ultimately creates a better crush as the barrel seats? How does the Grease effect Torque Values 10%, 20% or more?😊
It would be great if you could demonstrate your technique for removing factory Tikka T3x barrels.
Question are factory barrelled actions like howa Remington etc super over torqued? Reason I ask is I did a howa 1500 semi custom project rebuilding it from more hunting style rifle to something or suited for prs. When I tried to remove the factory barrel I had one heck of a time getting off before taking to a local gunsmith. When I got the action back he asked if I wanted the barrel back because he said he may need to part a section off. He further when on that when the action finally came off it sounded like a round went off! Just asking if that’s just a one off phenomenon or big box factory actions are just like that to keep in mind…side note love your content and thank you for inspiring me to study and learn gunsmithing
Yugo Mausers do that too
Thank you for the helpful information brother
I have the bronell things you were using, serves me well
Need some help ladies and gents. I have a very old Rem 700 .243. The factory barrel has had do serious use over almost 2 decades. I need to find replacement heavy barrel options I can hopefully just order and leave with a gunsmith to install. Any information on what and where to buy would be awesome!
It's funny I've never seen a left hand or right hand torque wrench on the Snap On truck.
Right on Gavin! Pretty cool stuff.
I want to see the tips and tricks for the AR platform
Great that your promoting short action customs BUT..... .they have been out of stock for a while on alot of their kits. Can you find out when there going to be back in stock ?
I just started building my own rifles. I have the Short Action Customs Bravo vice and module action wrench set to start. Just waiting on my actions and pre-fit barrels to come in.
Great video. You’d Gould make a video about removing the action of a Tikka with factory barrel 😅
Can you talk a bit about the base plate for your SAC Barrel Vise? Thanks.
I can't wait to see the results of the rock chuck Olympics! My vote goes to either the impact guy from South Africa, Erik Cortina, or Who Tee Who?
Hi Gavin i learn more From your nice videos i have question
it’s passable to modify barrel of machine gun MG42 cal7.62x51 install in rem700 or savage action
Please make one project will be nice we need see the accuracy for that heavy barrel
Thanks
Gavin: I build inexpensive but accurate rifles in South Texas. I have been using Yugo / Mauser actions for price/performance value, installing custom barrels on them, Timmy triggers and stock of customers choice. These run from 22-250 to 308 and 30.06 with good results. I have been using the HF hydraulic press barrel vise and rosin technique to get em off and the lathe to put em back on. I am curious though. When is the best TIR repeatability you can get out of your six jaw? I can't seem to get better than a couple of thou. BTW: I heard you came from the IT world. I did too. Was a tech writer in a Fortune 500 computer company in Engineering and later R&D.....way back in the 80s! Loved the video and subscribed
I noticed you didn't mention recever taps for changing threads. Do you have a video on that?
Great video Gavin.
I know I am asking for something specialized, but have you ever encountered a barrel instal on a Walther KK500 .22 match rifle. I know that special machining is required for the extractor slots and on the tang. The barrels are glued into the action with an unknown adhesive. I see allot if these rifles at the matches I shoot and I believe there is a need for a proper way to rebarrel this very popular match smallbore action.
Thanks again.
Yes, with a 22 you can press fit the barrel tenon into the action and hold with cylinder sleeve adhesive. This stuff is LIKE but not exactly the same as loctite and is actually intended for use in resleeving large engines. For cutting the extractor relief cuts use a woodruff key seat cutter of the appropriate size. This can most easily be done on a mill, but can be done on a lathe with a tool post grinder with an end mill mounted in it. Hope this helps....good luck.
Thanks for the video, are you able to send me a link to where I can buy the Vice and Wrench please.
is that a particolari type of paper you put underneat the vice?
Remington factory barrels torqued to 2500 fr lbs.
OK, that is funny! (and true in some cases)
Cool stuff man ! Thanks!
Could you adress alignment of the recoil lug please. Otherwise thouroughly enjoyed your video.
Any tips for carbon fiber barrels?
Hey Gavin what do you think about conventional installed barrel vs Prefit Barrel? Which is better😀?
Gavin … Relax moving a little fast on this video. I will be ordering one of your custom rifles👍
Does SAC have a model for Browning x-bolt action?
SAC needs to have a sale or military discount ‼️😐
I did not see a reciever tool for the Savage large shank. Do they have one of those?
tools & tech tips................................... thanks !!
Gavin, how did you learn machining? I know you come from the IT.
what model number on the action wrench do you use for the marlin xl7
What happened to the orange vise/419 kit that you were raving about?
We filmed with it 3 times last week- look for it in upcoming videos.
@@Ultimatereloader so price aside, would you recommend it over the other vises you featured in your video?
Hello Gavin. Have you ever removed the factory barrel from a Tikka T1X? I’ve heard some horror stories of broken bits, glued barrels and even some actions with ovoid shapes. What is curious is that there are several brands of aftermarket barrels for the rifle that are supposed to be a direct fit…
T3X has the same problem
That’s way easier than I tought
Your first one...old school
That Brownells vice is unavailable. Would love to buy it from him.
Check out the vise from PMA....
@@rontoulme9055 I have barrel vice very similar to the PMA. I would prefer one that used the metal bushings the Brownell's design uses.
Gavin the six jaw is it a school chuck
Do you just happen to use the Zeus QC action for this demonstration or do you really torque down to 90ft-lb with that action?
Correct, just use for a demonstration and that’s actually how I chambered and installed the barrel originally.
Great video
Nice video
How do you torque a reverse threaded bolt!? A reverse threaded torque wrench!? That concept is a myth torque wrenches go both ways or you wouldn’t have a lever to change direction on the torque wrench
Scroll chuck
Pretty stupid action wrench that doesn't include Mauser 98
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