Hello my good sir. I was just wanting to let ya know that you have several repeating sections of the story, they are towards the end of the video. Im not sure if this was done on purpose to see how attentive your viewers are to catch it or if this was accidental, but regardless either way it makes it difficult to follow the story at points because of the repeating sentences making it confusing to follow. If you know what I mean, mister OP sir. ;)
i related to the story because of 7th grade aka my sexual harassment year. my best friend josh had an ex friend named ty who seemed nice when we first met but i got bad vibes from him because why would an ex friend want to meet that person’s best friend? he wanted me to “date” him when we were alone so i went along with it to see where he was going with it but ended up wanting to put makeup on my neck to make it look like a hickey(don’t know how to spell it) as prank on josh for revenge to hurt him and ty gave me the 24 hours threat on making the decision but here’s the thing: i hate makeup and don’t want to hurt my friends so the next day, i straight up told him i’m not doing the “prank” and that i never want to see or talk to him ever again and he said “fine. i never loved you in the first place” and walked away while i just smiled and thought “now i see why ty and josh aren’t friends anymore”
Screw talking about how he took her back. As soon as I heard that Daniel was dead, my heart just dropped. I give my condolences to his family and friends. Fly high Daniel.
Right! When OP said Daniel had passed away even I started tearing up a little bit. I feel like the loss of Daniel might have slightly influenced OP to reconcile with his wife a little bit. Obviously they were both hurting from losing him.
"Fight for my marriage because if I walked Marjus would have won" Marjus won the moment the wife decided to drop her pants which is ONE week. No one gets groomed in 1 week, she cheated, KEPT cheating for 11 months and suddenly she was being groomed.
True. Marjus won. He broke two people and left them to pick up their pieces. It's the moment you question "And how exactly do I win here? Because if you didn't notice, he has already won. He left us broken to pick up the pieces"
She may have been manipulated into acting cold and being hurtful in these 11 months, yet she, in full consciousness, cheated after 1 week. That was not marjus’ doing. She’s just a dirty fking cheater. All it took was a good looking rich guy being nice for 1 week. I would’ve kicked her to the curb. This guy is in fact, even if he denied it, a big fking doormat
Fr. For something like that to take just a week he would have had to completely isolate her and fed her this shit constantly. Ain't no way that happened in a single week.
The only winner is your wife, she treated you like a fool and you took her back. Believe me, she will do it again, and expect the same result with you taking her back. You lose.
"I cheated, but it's okay now cause he was abusive, please take me back" sorry but if she was that easy to manipulate, and the amount of narcissistic people around the world she will stand out as an easy mark.
You’re the kind of person that says, “mental illness isn’t real, it’s all in your head!” Feeling too challenged by the complexity of a situation that isn’t completely black and white, you default to righteous anger because it makes you feel secure. Pathetic.
I find it laughable how many commenter think they wouldn't be easily manipulated. If you haven't experienced it before, even if you know what to look out for in theory, you don't see it coming.
I am so sick of the term soul mate! Never love anything enough to where you can't walk away if they pull something like OPs wife. The power to walk away is truly underrated.
Yea, or even worse... twin flames. The studies about twin flames are horrific. About how you are soulmates, but there's always a reason why you can't be together. And it can take years (or never) until you finally get together. So you're basically mourning a relationship you won't ever get and won't give any other person a chance. My friend believes in this stuff, but the guy who's her twin flame is horrible and abusive (oh and they're both married too, not to eachother ofc)
@@rigelbound6749Women always have one another’s back. It’s still OP’s fault for being that impressionable and not having the spine to make his own decisions.
@@alwaysright3943 If even your therapist tells you it isn't the wives fault, she was only a victim of a sociopath, I can't blame him for becoming spineless.
@@alwaysright3943 That and it was the wife who hired her. Even if the OP didn't knew that women (may) have each others back. He should have the idea that contractors tend to not bite the hand that feeds them.
lmao yes?? so the only victim here is the wife, because she was with a sociopath.. so, didnt she told you she kissed and fucked in the first day ? how much of a sociopath can do in a few hours, i dont know man..
she let them run the train on her, and he forgave her? After 11 months of abuse and neglect? He even saw the videos and pictures. She had no accountability and blamed everyone but herself and played victim. She only regret it when she saw the divorce papers. She was a victim and was manipulated by a sociopath? Those therapist and psychologist really feed both of them that? "If i don't fight, he would have won," he won the moment he kissed his wife. Why is the therapist manipulating him.
Don't even want to hear doormat stories. Can't relate and the lack of self-respect just hurts to listen to. I'm skipping any where the comments make it clear it's one...
@@finnb2318you might be skipping a lot of them. This channel is kinda famous for them. Good news is at least some of them grow a spine, or at least some sort of back support.
@@lilcaesarvevo6949 Even without watching the video, I know all the advice he will have gotten also directly contradicted his further actions. Head-in-the-sand, pie-in-the-sky lunacy. Most people don't give you advice to ruin you. It can't work, and it'll only get worse. All the while, his insistence almost turns a tragedy into a comedy because he continues ignoring any and all warnings. I don't even know whether to feel bad or not.
@@lilcaesarvevo6949I’ve heard way worse doormat stories. At least in this one I can see why he’d reconcile if their relationship up until that point was great. Not saying I agree though. She’s proven any smooth talking, facade wearing Mr Perfect can make her spread.
He can say what he wants about wanting to save the marriage etc but he will never forget what he saw in those vids/pics and what she chose to do with Marjus on many occasions. It will always be in the back of his mind wondering what she is up to whenever he's not with her. Once the trust is gone, you never get it back, it's just wishful thinking.
Once you see or experience something you'll never forget the memory it will for ever be floating in the mind waiting for a trigger to bring it to the forefront. However forgiveness is coming to terms with what ever happened and understanding that what ever happens is in the past and I will hold you to your pass. The trust will take time to build back up.
@@makinseyrosseryour relationship is built upon lies sir/ma’am I pray that whoever was on the receiving end wakes up from whatever dream you’re living in
@@mizzle5714 I find it interesting that you say my relationship is built upon lies so confidently without knowing me or my spouse, or what we’ve been through together. But since you’re so sure that my relationship is built on lies, why don’t you tell me what lies those are? Spoiler: no one in my relationship lied (or cheated, for the record). If you’re an ADULT like me, then you’d realize that many things can cause a riff in a relationship or trust to be broken, other than cheating and lying. My only point is that it IS possible to reconcile, ok? lol And I know it’s the internet, but you actually don’t have to be so simple minded.
@@mizzle5714 I find it interesting that you say my relationship is built upon lies so confidently without knowing me or my spouse, or what we’ve been through together. But since you’re so sure that my relationship is built on lies, why don’t you tell me what lies those are? Spoiler: no one in my relationship lied (or cheated, for the record). If you’re an ADULT like me, then you’d realize that many things can cause a riff in a relationship or trust to be broken, other than cheating and lying. My only point is that it IS possible to reconcile, ok? Is it required, no. But it’s possible. And lol, I know it’s the internet, but you actually don’t have to be so simple minded.
It doesnt matter if she was a victim to manipulation, because at the end of the day if she was faithful from the beginning she wouldnt have been the victim. She gave in to temptation because she fed on everyone elses envy. It takes two to tango... and because of that, it doesnt really matter what the APs intent were, since he would have been the ap regardless.
holy mother of all gaslights, she had her fun till last moment, then pumped the breaks and went through her "detox", someone needs to tie op to a chair and play those videos again so he can remember what he is forgiving... op had no backbone or power to impose himself so his wife was not afraid to pursue marjus when he was interested in her, he had no backbone to keep to his morals, no backbone to see this though, at the end the wife had her fun and came back... what a relationship to come back to, one where he need to be on guard of any man her wife might meet, one where any change in her behavior will send him back in his darkest days... there was no marjus wins, he won that first week, you lost no matter the outcome
I'm not sure what to say but maybe op just was afraid,thinking it was too late and he would die alone then rather searching for a true women.Wife will surely cheat again and the pain will be even greater next time.
@@Cyborg_LeninExcept the AP only entered her life very recently so it's not like the husband had any competition beforehand, only after AP came did the choice start to exist, before that there was no choice.
Even in the astronomically impossible even she was actually mind controlled, by the eeeevil man, it just show she can turn her back on him with just one week's efforts and some gossip (like any magic trick you have to be open to it beforehand, mind you) . There's no trusting that person, he'll get sick trying to trust her and failing. And if he took the steps he felt were necessary to trust her again (for example, not letting her go out easily, or asking her to stop working etc) he'll be called a controlling bastard. So yeah, there's nothing in it for him, except sunken-costs fallacy.
I was on his side for most of it. Then i noticed he stopped referring to her as his "soon to be ex wife" and as his wife again and suspected trouble. Yup, the simp took her back AND put up with her meeting him again without his permission.
i don't think y'all understand that people get back together after cheating and live happily. also he was with her when marjus called her she met up with marjus to tell him off, you people and acting like she met up with him to make out with him.
@@indigofeilds9520 Maybe the cheater lives happily, but the person cheated on never forgets even if they forgive. She went to see the guy again without telling her husband first, she admitted this fact. She had no business going to see him, she should have just ignored and blocked him.
"AND put up with her meeting him again without his permission." you completely forgot that the point of the meeting was to stand her ground and push him out of her life for good, in no point during the meeting did she display any interest on wanting to get back to him and called him out on his bullshit I'm not gonna defend her actions, she's just as equally in the wrong, but I feel as if some of ya'll get so blinded by rage and hatred you stop seeing logic
So, wife cheats, its "groomed" and "manipulated" into doing and saying stuff to her husband and in the end shes the victim? Sounds about right. Also, DOORMAT!
The-rapist and psychologist are disgusting. They really think "taking away control" is a real thing, like it's amputating a limb or something. Gaslighting at its finest.
@@prophetofthemightysquirrel5434 I would understand if she had any previous condition where she cant make certain decisions or is traumatized by something. However thats not the case.
@@OWnIshiiTrolling with your western society today that influences by force other nations as well, it's not far off from being true. It's easily observed that far more men in your society is being emasculated and being effeminated. More respect to the thugs in your society that still retain their natural protective jealousy than so called "civilized" laymen that can't describe what a woman is.
Welp, looking forward to a few more posts over the next few years, dude was literally pressured back into the relationship, there are huge chances this can happen again, and he'll always go back.
As a diagnosed person with ASPD, this therapist is a pseud. Psychopaths and sociopaths have no consistent diagnostic difference between them according to scientific consensus and both are simply classified as ASPD. Neither are they magic manipulators even if they are charming. That wife needs to accept her own failings here- plenty of people are approached by psychopaths who intend to manipulate them but successfully resist. He may be the aggressor but she bears fault in large enough part that she can and should be held for the blame. And can we stop overly fearmongering about ASPD in unscientific romanticized ways? It’s pretty biased the way the therapist basically excused the wife and pushed the guy to reconcile- qualified therapists are not supposed to do something like that. 40% of people with ASPD adjust into upstanding citizens who commit no crimes and don’t exhibit symptoms. This story is either completely fake or worse, has a bad therapist spreading harmful discrimination.
There is a difference, it's just not something you can readily diagnose. A sociopath has little empathy, like a CEO cutting bonuses. A psychopath has no capacity for empathy, like a kid torturing cats.
@@Ferostesociopath and psychopath are not official diagnostic terms. They’re just used by people to differentiate between symptoms of ASD and that’s why everyone’s definition of these two terms varies. Scientifically, a person who lacks empathy, manipulates others into doing what he/she wants without regard for consequences or gains pleasure from hurting others would be diagnosed with ASD, regardless of whether you consider them a psychopath or sociopath.
@DragonZhan I completely agree about the fearmongering regarding ASD. Personality disorder often stem from genetics and childhood experiences so developing PDs is not in a person’s control. It can be difficult for the person to even realize that what they’re feeling or doing is wrong or not normal. It takes a lot of courage to face that and work on changing aspects of your personality so the disorder itself shouldn’t be demonized. It’s about how we work with the cards we’ve been dealt and what we do to change for the better.
The story is fake. The definitions he gave of both psychopaths and sociopaths seem like the descriptions you can easily read on Google after a quick search. Word for word. Also, it's strange to me that two professionals said the same exact things. Also, as far as I know, psychiatrists are consulted if the patient needs medical assistance other then mental help. So it's bizarre that she went straight up to a psychiatrist without consulting a psychologist/therapist first. There was no mention of her taking pills, which she should since it's what psychiatrist are for. And the story can't be found on Reddit. If you search it, it only appears the video
2 Thoughts: 1. This story is fake and was probably made by someone who has cheated and is trying to justify it in their own wierd way 2. Being abused is no excuse to abuse. Anyone who has been in an abusive situation knows it can affect how you treat others (especially in this case) but the idea that the husband ever had to or should forgive his wife is demented. Yes she was manipulated, but she still abused him for an extended period of time. That kinda shit isn’t a “oopsie” that can be tossed aside like that. 3. Damn guess I got a third one. The idea that him leaving his wife is Marcus “winning” is bs. In retrospect, the decision shouldn’t involve him at all. It’s about him and his wife, and the treatment between the two. Jesus if someone had told me, especially a therapist that me leaving would be me losing, putting me in this impossible situation, they’d be catching these hands.
Fr. She's been abused? Horrible! She wants to heal? Great! But she should have done it far, faaar away from her own victim. That's even assuming this is real, which i REALLY doubt.
@@WPDJF The wife saying "I accept responsibility" isn't the same thing as her actually accepting responsibility. She didn't really do much to show remorse or to rebuild trust. She even went to see her lover one last time, without her husband being able to corroborate the story she then told him. I'm glad this is a fake story, because the things that man is doing to himself is beyond frustrating.
THE ONLY PERSON GROOMED HERE WAS OP! The therapist and psychologist are doing exactly what they accuse marjis of, moreover this guy allowed everyone of them to walk all over him Bruh this guy IS a doormat and deservs whatever comes up in future including getting cheated on again
you are right and this is the reason why I am strongly against all sort of therapies. They all try to groom him to be a cuck because she was a "victim". However, deep down she wanted to be unfaithful, she wanted someone better than her husband. Manipulation can only work if a person being manipulated wants those things. Everything she did was her secret cravings.
@@amrokas I always advise men to take advice/suggestions of therapists with a pinch of salt especially if matters involve relationships, particularly with women Over the time period these therapists (or so-called "relationship saviours") have done nothing other than play the tune of feminism 24/7 and validate women while shifting the blame entirely on men! Frankly in these times I don't even know of a particular big institution or field (including those that you never expected ) which have distanced itself from the ideologies feminists promote Bruh men seriously need to learn a thing or two from their ancestors
@@theredstar6493Just wait it won’t be long before the feminist opinion is it’s sexist, insecure, and controlling to not let your wife sleep with other men.
As my advice to men as a psychologist myself: NEVER have a female councilor in situations like this! There is an unfortunate trend of female councilors empathising with the women and becoming biased towards a good outcome for the other woman in the room, as obsessed to the best outcome for BOTH, as shown in this story. Best advice is to get the coucilor to be the same gender as the WRONGED party.
This should be highlighted to those required to do reconciliation by courts. Its mentally exhausting and torturing enough to go through the process only to be gaslighted in every session.
I know people will say cheater's are always cheater's but if you stay with a remorseful cheater you will never trust them they will feel more and more guilty hence making your already broken relation more broken it's better to leave man
31:19 This is not a medical professional. There is no clinical difference between psychopathy or sociopathy. These are archaic terms in psychology, and no one is diagnosed a sociopath or psychopath at this point. When the term is used, it is always used colloquially. Prior to the recategorization as antisocial personality disorder (APD), some schools of thought suggested that the distinction between psychopaths and sociopaths was the development of the pathology. One was inherited, a genetic mutation; the other was socialized, the product of trauma. There was also a notion that one or the other might be more violent, but which one "was" changed repeatedly over time, such as to be a meaningless diagnostic criterion. APD today makes no distinction between hereditary or socialized pathology, as the traits that develop are the same and the distinction is diagnostically worthless. This counselor is most likely a licensed talk therapist, but has not attended medical school - they are almost certainly not capable of diagnosing anything, only providing standardized treatments. At least, I'd hope that Sweden isn't teaching people about this antiquated perception. There's no real data to support it, for one, and for two the DSM releases as it does because of international research. It's not just some goofy American book, but a global guide to mental health diagnosis.
You're right to say that nobody is diagnosed with either pathies, but having been professionally accused of having one, I can safely say that the terms are still being used. The difference is in the doctor's wording and intent. Due to laws preventing doctors from diagnosing absent people, professionals often turn to broader terms in order to avoid the -lawsuit- confusion. Taking this case in point, the therapist uses the term "sociopath" to give a general gist of the problematic behavior while not allowing OP's thread to claim they diagnosed a person they never met.
I mean the therapist never outright said that Marjus was a sociopath. She said he had sociopathic tendencies. That allowed her to give a clear answer to OP as to his behavior while not officially diagnosing him.
Easier to reconcile because of "her ownership"? Based on what he said she's portrayed herself as the victim the entire time. He hasn't provided any kind of evidence where she's admitted agency in the affair. According to her it all happened TO her and not BECAUSE of her. Dude is an idiot.
Honestly, after OP left the divorce papers and the ring behind, everything the wife did afterwards just screams "DAMAGE CONTROL" to me, and nothing more. I have no respect for people who only own up to their mistakes when they have to face real consequences. So what if he "wins"? He already won when she slept with him. OP says it's for him, but honestly, this guy has zero self respect. I hope it's worth it.
My guess is this is a fan-fiction written by someone who cheated and puts all the blame on cheating partner, while believing their spouse should forgive everything because they were "the victim".
I don't see the point in staying with a cheater. Let's assume that the cheater never cheats again, how could you ever trust the cheater ever again? Why put yourself through the torment of destroyed trust. Even if the cheater says they'll do anything to make things right, the cheater will tire of the distrustfullness of the cheated partner. Start over with someone new. Someone who hasn't betrayed your trust. Someone you don't have to worry is out screwing someone else. Just move on.
Who thinks that the wife is the real sociopath? She cheated on husband, destroyed the life of the handsome and charming new boss and then got the husband to stay! 😮
I knew it was bs when the plot twist is that the charismatic and handsome boss that cucked him is actually a woman-beating Neo-Nazi. OP might suck at pleasing women but at least he knows how to please Redditors.
Bruhhh being manipulated by a sociopath or not, I would not want a partner/spouse to be so weak willed that they bend the knee within the week of meeting some sociopath manipulator
More like never go to a therapist if it involves relationship, particularly with women Over the time these therapists/psychologists have proved to be the epitome of female validation and support often at the cost of men and their sanity Same goes for religious institutes be it churches/temples or anything else, they're all for the same feminist bs in order to appear progressive and fill up their pockets
As a woman I actually agree with this. For some reason they have a herd mentality and try to gaslight people into staying with someone that isn't worth it. He needs to do what's best for him and a therapist shouldn't try to convince the decisions but help them work through their feelings. But not tell them how to feel
It is wild. When you love someone, you do not cheat on them, no matter how much they try to manipulate them! No matter how hard is your life, how little confidence you have or whatever. You seek proper solutions for problems in your life, such as discussing stuff with your spouse, canselling and so on. Not cheating!! Also: if someone talked badly about my husband in front of me, I would have teared them to shreds! Because my marriage is my own business, and no one has the right to intervene in it with their sticky disgusting comments! Overall I feel like his therapist pushed her own view of what happened with his wife on him. Also, her comments about "you are running from your problems" e.t.c. are weirdly victim blaming? My therapist usually did not tell me stuff like this, she asked me questions how I felt, what I wanted, what was the best course of action in my opinion e.t.c.
I got half way through before reading the comments and realizing I was wasting my time. Maybe I could get it if he had spent months grooming her until she cheated, but nobody is enough of a master manipulator to convince someone to cheat in 1 week. She did that of her own choice, the only person who got groomed is OP.
Yikes. OP is more easily manipulated than his wife if he believes all the bs she’s feeding him. It’s disgusting that they’re all shifting the blame onto Marjus, the “evil” affair partner, to justify the cheating. Almost as if though OP’s wife had no agency to make decisions for herself, which is far from the truth. She chose to cheat, but is still unwilling to take accountability for her actions. And OP is okay with that??? He’s a dumbass who’ll regret reconciling with a cheater.
@@ianmoritzplatapino3684 Cheaters are at fault for there cheating, but DO NOT EVER underestimate true sociopath. They are really master manipulator and weak minded people are their favorite prey. Unfortunately, OP wife was one of them.
You're braindead. Grooming is manipulation. The manipulation undermines a person's willingness/capacity to express agency. Being possessed of agency doesn't mean that your ability to express it can't be compromised. That's the entire reason she needed to pursue therapy. It's the same kind of mindfuck that happens when someone is being domestically abused. OP is absolutely not being manipulated, and if you are so personally offended by cheating that you can't recognize something as glaringly obvious as what's happening here, you need a mental checkup. You're not operating with all faculties in place.
Doormat of the century goes to this poster, I don’t think people understand that even though he was a sociopath HSE STILL WILLINGLY WENT ALONG WITH ALL OF IT, she’s just as bad, she had enough control to stop it then, that means she had more than enough control the entire time, she’d be homeless if this happened to me
This therapist is probably one of those that thinks that the woman is always the victim, even when she willingly cheats on her faithful husband. DISGUSTING.
So... "I haven't met him since" was another lie, and the therapist outright gaslit him into taking her back? His choice and all that shit - but like what tf is it with... weak? people? She cheated in a week. She fucked him in THEIR bed. She mentally abused him for 11 months and hey it's okay because I was being "manipulated"? I have a dark history with relationships (as in family, friends, crushes ect... and what they've done to me) to the point where I'm 26 and still never been in a relationship. It's really not super hard to cut someone off IMO. She allowed this to happen.
Again, and again and again with the "made me do it". Go I hate therapists too, this thing was 100% not neutral and ready to rationalize anything no matter how ridiculous. Wife isn't a victim. Even if you blindly believe he was a sociopath, It says so much more of her character that she was "swayed" by random colleagues on the first fucking week, than the actual affair. There can be no amount of rationalization that can explains or make it acceptable, and there can be no amount of family heirlooms and photo albums that can restore trust when she gleefully destroyed everything for pride (as she said, she felt pride in being chosen). What's infuriating is how everyone is trying to paint her an helpless victim, victim of being chosen, victim of fucking the guy a week after she met him, victim of getting with an abusive bastard, victim of this victim of that. She's not, we all make choices and the one thing that is a continuous choice through and through is cheating.
It’s like one of those stories of soldiers coming back from war and knowingly, raising someone else’s kid. Or an Italian Grandma admitting after he died, that she knew about her husband nighttime affairs but stayed with him despite that because ‘he only truly loved her.
The fact that she cheated on him almost immediately and how she Shat on him despite everything they've been through and everything she knows as truth is one thing, then she gets to claim victim status like she's a victim and the counselor says that as well and this man stupidly takes her back like a dumb ass. And she doesn't realize any of this until he's about to divorce her. This dude is a damn clown 🤡 the counselor said it her self. The wife WILLINGLY PLAYED ALONG. This marjus dude needs to catch a beat down honestly. He needs to learn a hard lesson because this is not the first time he's done this.
Bro, relax. This is fanfic, but even if this was real, no amount of manipulation can make someone cheat unless they willingly want to. So no matter how much you hate that guy, it's not him that is your true enemy but her who betrays you.
Bro. Like even if they lived out the rest of their life without her ever cheating again and being the best wife possible, how can he not have the self respect enough to leave? How does he look at her naked and not feel like vomiting EVERY TIME. This story just pissed me off man.
I could more so understand saving the marriage if kids are involved but without any kids it should be easier to more on. The wife fulfilled dreams for another man without even considering the OP’s fantasy.
I still don't get it... A Sociopath doesn't mean he has magical powers. Why did his therapist jump to the conclusion that the guy was a sociopath when they only had limited information from hubbies side? The the therapist seemed to be trying to push them back together. If this was a movie the sociopath and the therapist would be husband and wife playing some sick game.
I mean I’ve seen it where my friend got groomed by a girl and fell for it within a month. It took me nearly a year to get him out of that situation. It can definitely happen very quickly.
Charming, he's a doormat. Also gotta love her "apology" by the beach. Sums up to "I cheated because I'm spineless and couldn't say no." Guess they deserve each other, I wonder how much she was paying his therapist, lol
Congrats You managed to let a psychologist manipulate you into taking back a cheater who will probably do it again. She had every opportunity not to engage in it she chose to be groomed. If if the psychologist really said all that, then she should lose her job because that's some Olympic level apologist behavior she, the wife that is, is just as much the perpetrator as a victim. Edit: wow, that last bit that confrontation.. is a whole bunch of crap. He never made her do anything, he may have pressured her but she made the choice to surrender to that pressure. I'm glad if they work things out I really am, but this whole I was being manipulated so it's not my fault crap it's just utter b*******. We all make choices in life, and she said yes when she should have said no. It really is that simple. She chose to cheat.
She cheated within 1 week. You dont get groom in 1 week. She cheated and then got groomed into hating her husband over the 11 months. He's a sucker for taking her back.
Weakest men in Biden's universe. Somehow in the end I did agree with Marjus when he said OP is pathetic because it is true. He believed when people gang up on him and said that this is a game and the only way to win is to reconcile. My man here wouldn't even realized it if someone was sawing his leg off even if he was holding one end of the saw.
One thing that strikes me about this one is it's one of the first times I've seen the woman: A) not ask forgiveness B) Actually, be honest with OP I think those 2 things helped contribute to reconciliation.
Someone who cheats is statistically x4 more likely to cheat again. Not to mention she seems very easy to manipulate so that makes her even more likely to be persuade to cheat again. All im saying is good luck to op
I'm glad OP and wife think they have won against Marjus by staying together, though we all know people like Marjus won't be crying for long. They'll be out for a new victim shortly. I also hate that the therapist and family members made OP see the wife as the victim. She basically lost all the blame after they called him a sociopath, making OP's feelings come second to hers.
OP : m not a doormat But don't even hav enough courage, to question his wife, even whn she started skipping on their date and plans.. Even when the doormat found her sëxting chatting, instead of question his wife, he did nothing. Even whn his wife mentally abüsingg the doormat, he let it carried this for 1 year. No standup man who let his wife disrespect their marriage without even some confrontation.. And that groom and socīopath thing is totally bûllshît, just to safe his face. His wife will do this again after coming out of this.. coz doormat cant standup for themselves.
I dont like the action the OP took. But at the same time I understood. Its as simple as he still loves her. He gave her a second chance. Wanting to believe that her wife changed for the better. Culture this days tend to go to the side that if you do this things. Youre a SIMP. Not really coming to mind that they made memorirs together. Built something together. Loving someone isnt SIMPing is genuine love. Hope the best for the original OP and hope things go well for him and his wife~
All those years together and memories made is cool and all, but how in the holy hell can you ever trust your spouse or former spouse again when they chose to throw all those years and memories away for some supposedly meaningless sex?
Being abused for a year because the wife chose to fuck around and still taking her back is the definition of doormat lmfao no shit dude is treated as a sidechick because he'll always be a sidepiece
Im sorry i feel like the being “helpless to grooming” part is fucked. Like if you’re a susceptible kid I get it, but if you’re so easily manipulated as an adult, how can you be trusted again to not be manipulated? “I couldn’t resist his perfection and that he chose me and all the other girls were jealous” so if Julio comes from outta town, we gotta go through this again? Tf
What I’ve heard in the story so far and what I’ve seen in the comments even though she’s blaming it on herself she’s not really blaming herself like every time she kept saying he kept making me feel like a queen, so did your husband, and not only did he not respect her, but she still kept going back I hope this is a fake story because every time she kept explaining her reasoning, she never said that her husband didn’t make her feel like that. In fact, she said her husband treated her amazingly so even though she’s blaming herself, she’s not actually blaming herself, inadvertently she’s blaming her husband for not treating her as well as marjus and frankly It’s clear that she was kind of groomed, but she allowed herself to be groomed by a dude named marjus, anybody who let themselves be groomed and throws away the best thing that ever happened to them for someone who sounds like they’ll be selling legal substances on a street corner kind of deserves what they get
I was manipulated. She was a perfect woman and just knew how to get me to do what she wanted. I didn't want to fuck, but there I was with my pants down pile driving her. I couldn't control it. It was like she was using the force to direct me. She was definitely a sith.
One of the best videos so far from everything up until now. He is a real MAN. Adore him love him ,she will never find anyone like him . His kindness is far greater than any revenge,vengeance 🎉🎉. This is solely the case when the cheating partner is a victim ,not someone who willingly do it and blame others for their infedility and try to guilt trap the good partner 🎉🎉
Cheating is wrong; you're either monogamous or you're not. Even if there are contributing factors, the reasons people cheat are simple: they felt horny and had opportunity. The rest are just coping mechanisms; closure, my ass. Looking at the story, so... you're telling me that instead of stating he was outraged by his wife's behavior when she bailed on him, he poisons the water by saying she bailed on his poor sick friend!? The first time he went through her phone, he took photos of their sexting but had no concrete evidence and needed more... after getting more... When she was engaging in, umm... group activities, instead of displaying anger, he displays jealousy about being denied such activities and takes the moral stand that racism is bad... Then justifies taking her back because the therapist told him not to let him win and that the poor thing was groomed. Either this is totally fabricated, or this is some doormat with no backbone. Either or, they only ruined one house.
He won. He slept with your wife and you stayed like a cuckhold. He ruined her and your marriage and instead of moving on. You stayed. He won. Your wife is no longer yours, it’s just your turn right now. When another Handsome, Wealthy guy shows her interest again. She will cheat. It’s just what cheaters do. She has the power to mess around with other guys, whilst having her husband. She got her cake and got to eat it to. I just feel so bad for OP because he was manipulated into taking her back. He is completely clueless to the fact that his wife did what she did, no one forced her. She will do it again. She lied about seeing AP while trying reconciliation. Knowing if she told him she was planning on seeing him, I bet OP would have left for good. He never got that chance. I feel so bad for him. I wish nothing bad ever happens to him again. It’s bad enough he’s been cheated on. Now he’s stuck with the woman who broke his heart, and he’s misplacing his anger towards AP, when it was his wife that made the decision to cheat. Poor guy
It went from "this dude is a nazi" to "part of a group that defends nazis" and realized this dude was an absolute doormat. He absolutely beat it to those videos he found.
Most of them, especially in couple's thing, are female, so it's not out of the question that some tribalism or sorority effect would have shine through.
I don’t think they deserve the negative, yea it’s unheard of for a marriage to be saved after cheating but no one confidently knows that marriage, no marriage is like the one before or after, frankly it felt beautiful and worth to fight for, I’ve been cheated on and yea I walked away but I can 100% say it wasn’t a snap of my fingers and left there’s a lot to it mentally and emotionally
![[Live สด] การออกรางวัลสลากกินแบ่งรัฐบาล งวดวันที่ 16 พฤศจิกายน 2567](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wPd7VFfWHIA/mqdefault.jpg)
Good luck watching the huge ass video lol!
@@Thanatossssx this, holy shit, I wasted 30m of my life, 30m cause I realized this dent was definetly staying and decided to read the comments
Hello my good sir. I was just wanting to let ya know that you have several repeating sections of the story, they are towards the end of the video. Im not sure if this was done on purpose to see how attentive your viewers are to catch it or if this was accidental, but regardless either way it makes it difficult to follow the story at points because of the repeating sentences making it confusing to follow. If you know what I mean, mister OP sir. ;)
I love long reddit videos I likw to play While listening to them
i related to the story because of 7th grade aka my sexual harassment year. my best friend josh had an ex friend named ty who seemed nice when we first met but i got bad vibes from him because why would an ex friend want to meet that person’s best friend? he wanted me to “date” him when we were alone so i went along with it to see where he was going with it but ended up wanting to put makeup on my neck to make it look like a hickey(don’t know how to spell it) as prank on josh for revenge to hurt him and ty gave me the 24 hours threat on making the decision but here’s the thing: i hate makeup and don’t want to hurt my friends so the next day, i straight up told him i’m not doing the “prank” and that i never want to see or talk to him ever again and he said “fine. i never loved you in the first place” and walked away while i just smiled and thought “now i see why ty and josh aren’t friends anymore”
Eazzzy. I love it, it is a great video.
Screw talking about how he took her back.
As soon as I heard that Daniel was dead, my heart just dropped.
I give my condolences to his family and friends. Fly high Daniel.
Right! When OP said Daniel had passed away even I started tearing up a little bit. I feel like the loss of Daniel might have slightly influenced OP to reconcile with his wife a little bit. Obviously they were both hurting from losing him.
Reallllll
I gasped and felt my heart sink. I definitely didn’t see it coming. That broke my heart
Seriously. The second he said "Daniel's grave." I was like "Nooo! Not Daniel!"
tthat was the saddest part of this story, Daniel RIP, fly high, very high
"Fight for my marriage because if I walked Marjus would have won"
Marjus won the moment the wife decided to drop her pants which is ONE week. No one gets groomed in 1 week, she cheated, KEPT cheating for 11 months and suddenly she was being groomed.
True. Marjus won. He broke two people and left them to pick up their pieces. It's the moment you question "And how exactly do I win here? Because if you didn't notice, he has already won. He left us broken to pick up the pieces"
She may have been manipulated into acting cold and being hurtful in these 11 months, yet she, in full consciousness, cheated after 1 week.
That was not marjus’ doing. She’s just a dirty fking cheater. All it took was a good looking rich guy being nice for 1 week.
I would’ve kicked her to the curb.
This guy is in fact, even if he denied it, a big fking doormat
The only way to win is by not playing their game. OP shouldn't have taken her back. He lost.
Fr. For something like that to take just a week he would have had to completely isolate her and fed her this shit constantly. Ain't no way that happened in a single week.
@@Pandemicus7the only way to win is go full OJ. Give her and Marjus the juice. Instant worm food
TL;DR: OOP believes wife is a programmable android and encouraged by psychologist to not let AP wins by reconciliating with cheating wife.
Damn, not even interested in hearing about that. Just sad.
Thanks for saving me the time. No interest in spending 45 minutes on the story of a chump acting like a chump.
Wife just needed an ios update to work properly.
for me personally sure she may have been manipulated but she still cheated and should not be forgiven
The only winner is your wife, she treated you like a fool and you took her back. Believe me, she will do it again, and expect the same result with you taking her back. You lose.
"I cheated, but it's okay now cause he was abusive, please take me back" sorry but if she was that easy to manipulate, and the amount of narcissistic people around the world she will stand out as an easy mark.
With the amount of people we've heard on this channel I'm surprised she isn't having her pants wet already
You’re the kind of person that says, “mental illness isn’t real, it’s all in your head!” Feeling too challenged by the complexity of a situation that isn’t completely black and white, you default to righteous anger because it makes you feel secure. Pathetic.
She even said: "at first he was a gentleman" that is why.
Exactly shes op wife again until the next so called "groomer" comes along
I find it laughable how many commenter think they wouldn't be easily manipulated. If you haven't experienced it before, even if you know what to look out for in theory, you don't see it coming.
I am so sick of the term soul mate! Never love anything enough to where you can't walk away if they pull something like OPs wife. The power to walk away is truly underrated.
Yea, or even worse... twin flames. The studies about twin flames are horrific. About how you are soulmates, but there's always a reason why you can't be together. And it can take years (or never) until you finally get together. So you're basically mourning a relationship you won't ever get and won't give any other person a chance. My friend believes in this stuff, but the guy who's her twin flame is horrible and abusive (oh and they're both married too, not to eachother ofc)
Is it just me or did OPs therapist gaslighted him into taking back the ex?
Yeah what kind of therapist is that? A therapist is never supposed to make decisions for you
@@rigelbound6749Women always have one another’s back. It’s still OP’s fault for being that impressionable and not having the spine to make his own decisions.
@@alwaysright3943 If even your therapist tells you it isn't the wives fault, she was only a victim of a sociopath, I can't blame him for becoming spineless.
@@alwaysright3943 That and it was the wife who hired her. Even if the OP didn't knew that women (may) have each others back. He should have the idea that contractors tend to not bite the hand that feeds them.
lmao yes?? so the only victim here is the wife, because she was with a sociopath.. so, didnt she told you she kissed and fucked in the first day ? how much of a sociopath can do in a few hours, i dont know man..
she let them run the train on her, and he forgave her? After 11 months of abuse and neglect? He even saw the videos and pictures. She had no accountability and blamed everyone but herself and played victim. She only regret it when she saw the divorce papers. She was a victim and was manipulated by a sociopath? Those therapist and psychologist really feed both of them that? "If i don't fight, he would have won," he won the moment he kissed his wife. Why is the therapist manipulating him.
Don't even want to hear doormat stories. Can't relate and the lack of self-respect just hurts to listen to. I'm skipping any where the comments make it clear it's one...
@@finnb2318you might be skipping a lot of them. This channel is kinda famous for them. Good news is at least some of them grow a spine, or at least some sort of back support.
Yeah, this is the first one that I heard the genuinely made me upset by how op handled it. It baffles me how someone like that could exist.
@@lilcaesarvevo6949 Even without watching the video, I know all the advice he will have gotten also directly contradicted his further actions. Head-in-the-sand, pie-in-the-sky lunacy. Most people don't give you advice to ruin you. It can't work, and it'll only get worse. All the while, his insistence almost turns a tragedy into a comedy because he continues ignoring any and all warnings. I don't even know whether to feel bad or not.
@@lilcaesarvevo6949I’ve heard way worse doormat stories. At least in this one I can see why he’d reconcile if their relationship up until that point was great. Not saying I agree though. She’s proven any smooth talking, facade wearing Mr Perfect can make her spread.
He can say what he wants about wanting to save the marriage etc but he will never forget what he saw in those vids/pics and what she chose to do with Marjus on many occasions. It will always be in the back of his mind wondering what she is up to whenever he's not with her. Once the trust is gone, you never get it back, it's just wishful thinking.
Once you see or experience something you'll never forget the memory it will for ever be floating in the mind waiting for a trigger to bring it to the forefront. However forgiveness is coming to terms with what ever happened and understanding that what ever happens is in the past and I will hold you to your pass. The trust will take time to build back up.
She did things with Marjus that she never did with him. That alone should tell him everything he needs to know.
@@makinseyrosseryour relationship is built upon lies sir/ma’am I pray that whoever was on the receiving end wakes up from whatever dream you’re living in
@@mizzle5714 I find it interesting that you say my relationship is built upon lies so confidently without knowing me or my spouse, or what we’ve been through together. But since you’re so sure that my relationship is built on lies, why don’t you tell me what lies those are?
Spoiler: no one in my relationship lied (or cheated, for the record). If you’re an ADULT like me, then you’d realize that many things can cause a riff in a relationship or trust to be broken, other than cheating and lying. My only point is that it IS possible to reconcile, ok? lol
And I know it’s the internet, but you actually don’t have to be so simple minded.
@@mizzle5714 I find it interesting that you say my relationship is built upon lies so confidently without knowing me or my spouse, or what we’ve been through together. But since you’re so sure that my relationship is built on lies, why don’t you tell me what lies those are?
Spoiler: no one in my relationship lied (or cheated, for the record). If you’re an ADULT like me, then you’d realize that many things can cause a riff in a relationship or trust to be broken, other than cheating and lying. My only point is that it IS possible to reconcile, ok? Is it required, no. But it’s possible.
And lol, I know it’s the internet, but you actually don’t have to be so simple minded.
It doesnt matter if she was a victim to manipulation, because at the end of the day if she was faithful from the beginning she wouldnt have been the victim. She gave in to temptation because she fed on everyone elses envy. It takes two to tango... and because of that, it doesnt really matter what the APs intent were, since he would have been the ap regardless.
holy mother of all gaslights, she had her fun till last moment, then pumped the breaks and went through her "detox", someone needs to tie op to a chair and play those videos again so he can remember what he is forgiving... op had no backbone or power to impose himself so his wife was not afraid to pursue marjus when he was interested in her, he had no backbone to keep to his morals, no backbone to see this though, at the end the wife had her fun and came back... what a relationship to come back to, one where he need to be on guard of any man her wife might meet, one where any change in her behavior will send him back in his darkest days... there was no marjus wins, he won that first week, you lost no matter the outcome
OP is a true beta male simp. 🤣🤣🤣
Exactly 💀 The boss won the MOMENT his wife let him in.
Apparently, he lost the moment he chose to marry that wh**re.
I'm not sure what to say but maybe op just was afraid,thinking it was too late and he would die alone then rather searching for a true women.Wife will surely cheat again and the pain will be even greater next time.
“You’re no competition to my wonderful husband.”
-the woman who chose this man over her husband for months
Yea she knew that recording gonna be heard by him so she was buttering 💀
She did choose the husband for years. Sooo he still got the hight score.
Who even had a 3 way with nazis. Bahahahaha 😂😂😂
how tf did the therapist manage to make the wife the victim ?
@@Cyborg_LeninExcept the AP only entered her life very recently so it's not like the husband had any competition beforehand, only after AP came did the choice start to exist, before that there was no choice.
Even in the astronomically impossible even she was actually mind controlled, by the eeeevil man, it just show she can turn her back on him with just one week's efforts and some gossip (like any magic trick you have to be open to it beforehand, mind you) .
There's no trusting that person, he'll get sick trying to trust her and failing. And if he took the steps he felt were necessary to trust her again (for example, not letting her go out easily, or asking her to stop working etc) he'll be called a controlling bastard.
So yeah, there's nothing in it for him, except sunken-costs fallacy.
I was on his side for most of it. Then i noticed he stopped referring to her as his "soon to be ex wife" and as his wife again and suspected trouble.
Yup, the simp took her back AND put up with her meeting him again without his permission.
Meeting again?! Damn .nah she gone!
i don't think y'all understand that people get back together after cheating and live happily. also he was with her when marjus called her she met up with marjus to tell him off, you people and acting like she met up with him to make out with him.
@@indigofeilds9520 Maybe the cheater lives happily, but the person cheated on never forgets even if they forgive.
She went to see the guy again without telling her husband first, she admitted this fact. She had no business going to see him, she should have just ignored and blocked him.
@@indigofeilds9520 nah they probably made one more video for the memories 💀
"AND put up with her meeting him again without his permission."
you completely forgot that the point of the meeting was to stand her ground and push him out of her life for good, in no point during the meeting did she display any interest on wanting to get back to him and called him out on his bullshit
I'm not gonna defend her actions, she's just as equally in the wrong, but I feel as if some of ya'll get so blinded by rage and hatred you stop seeing logic
Guy finds sexual conversations between them
Him “maybe she’s cheating on me, I need to find some proof”
Damn fool that shit is the proof
I wanted to yell through the screen atp.
He's a simp and doormat. What do you expect?!!
@@imnotyourvillain I was yelling through the screen man
So, wife cheats, its "groomed" and "manipulated" into doing and saying stuff to her husband and in the end shes the victim?
Sounds about right.
Also, DOORMAT!
Some people have kinks...
The-rapist and psychologist are disgusting. They really think "taking away control" is a real thing, like it's amputating a limb or something. Gaslighting at its finest.
@@MrToubrouk The kink of "taking your husband/mariage into a nuke zone and claim you were not yourself"?
@@prophetofthemightysquirrel5434 I would understand if she had any previous condition where she cant make certain decisions or is traumatized by something. However thats not the case.
@@Justicar2503 Hey, if your partner is a complete blue-pilled cuckold simp, he might even enjoy it.
Man says he's not a doormat while being the biggest one possible
Bro got the "Welcome !" written all over his face.
I'm really glad that the story is fake. Otherwise, it would just be frustrating to hear a man do this to himself.
Well I agree with you. The guy deserved better but his blind love for her was stronger than his own self respect.
Children.
@@OWnIshiiTrolling with your western society today that influences by force other nations as well, it's not far off from being true. It's easily observed that far more men in your society is being emasculated and being effeminated. More respect to the thugs in your society that still retain their natural protective jealousy than so called "civilized" laymen that can't describe what a woman is.
Welp, looking forward to a few more posts over the next few years, dude was literally pressured back into the relationship, there are huge chances this can happen again, and he'll always go back.
As a diagnosed person with ASPD, this therapist is a pseud. Psychopaths and sociopaths have no consistent diagnostic difference between them according to scientific consensus and both are simply classified as ASPD. Neither are they magic manipulators even if they are charming. That wife needs to accept her own failings here- plenty of people are approached by psychopaths who intend to manipulate them but successfully resist. He may be the aggressor but she bears fault in large enough part that she can and should be held for the blame.
And can we stop overly fearmongering about ASPD in unscientific romanticized ways? It’s pretty biased the way the therapist basically excused the wife and pushed the guy to reconcile- qualified therapists are not supposed to do something like that.
40% of people with ASPD adjust into upstanding citizens who commit no crimes and don’t exhibit symptoms. This story is either completely fake or worse, has a bad therapist spreading harmful discrimination.
There is a difference, it's just not something you can readily diagnose.
A sociopath has little empathy, like a CEO cutting bonuses.
A psychopath has no capacity for empathy, like a kid torturing cats.
@@Feroste This is pseudoscience not proven by any scientific studies and is pop psychology, not, real science.
@@Ferostesociopath and psychopath are not official diagnostic terms. They’re just used by people to differentiate between symptoms of ASD and that’s why everyone’s definition of these two terms varies. Scientifically, a person who lacks empathy, manipulates others into doing what he/she wants without regard for consequences or gains pleasure from hurting others would be diagnosed with ASD, regardless of whether you consider them a psychopath or sociopath.
@DragonZhan I completely agree about the fearmongering regarding ASD. Personality disorder often stem from genetics and childhood experiences so developing PDs is not in a person’s control. It can be difficult for the person to even realize that what they’re feeling or doing is wrong or not normal. It takes a lot of courage to face that and work on changing aspects of your personality so the disorder itself shouldn’t be demonized. It’s about how we work with the cards we’ve been dealt and what we do to change for the better.
The story is fake. The definitions he gave of both psychopaths and sociopaths seem like the descriptions you can easily read on Google after a quick search. Word for word. Also, it's strange to me that two professionals said the same exact things. Also, as far as I know, psychiatrists are consulted if the patient needs medical assistance other then mental help. So it's bizarre that she went straight up to a psychiatrist without consulting a psychologist/therapist first. There was no mention of her taking pills, which she should since it's what psychiatrist are for. And the story can't be found on Reddit. If you search it, it only appears the video
"Hey, I cucked you with a N*zi, but it's ok because my mega-hot boss is super-persuasive, so take me back, k?" 😂
“K!”
Lol
@@SSFighter1701 username checks out lmao you gotta stop cucking redditors man
"He even told me I was special! The chosen one! 🥺
My colleagues were all jealous of me! "
FR.. LMAO...
2 Thoughts:
1. This story is fake and was probably made by someone who has cheated and is trying to justify it in their own wierd way
2. Being abused is no excuse to abuse. Anyone who has been in an abusive situation knows it can affect how you treat others (especially in this case) but the idea that the husband ever had to or should forgive his wife is demented. Yes she was manipulated, but she still abused him for an extended period of time. That kinda shit isn’t a “oopsie” that can be tossed aside like that.
3. Damn guess I got a third one. The idea that him leaving his wife is Marcus “winning” is bs. In retrospect, the decision shouldn’t involve him at all. It’s about him and his wife, and the treatment between the two. Jesus if someone had told me, especially a therapist that me leaving would be me losing, putting me in this impossible situation, they’d be catching these hands.
Fr. She's been abused? Horrible! She wants to heal? Great! But she should have done it far, faaar away from her own victim. That's even assuming this is real, which i REALLY doubt.
@@elizabethbarajas4863As someone who took interest in psychology it’s very possible to be real.
the megumin reference in the end was priceless 😂😂😂, youre right
bruh, imagine being married to a full grown adult but now you have to be vigilant that they don't get "groomed"
everything = fake" - you
You haven't actually heard a story that actually sounds fake, have you?
She blamed everything but herself lmaoo
I was waiting for the :”it’s the company’s fault for bringing him in the office”
This is not true lol, she did own up to her mistakes from what op says
@@Maria-wi1pj Female name, opinion discarded
@@TheDevilEdoshes telling the truth though, He did say that the Wife owned up to her mistakes. 44:51
@@WPDJF The wife saying "I accept responsibility" isn't the same thing as her actually accepting responsibility. She didn't really do much to show remorse or to rebuild trust. She even went to see her lover one last time, without her husband being able to corroborate the story she then told him.
I'm glad this is a fake story, because the things that man is doing to himself is beyond frustrating.
That is just a blatant lie.
THE ONLY PERSON GROOMED HERE WAS OP!
The therapist and psychologist are doing exactly what they accuse marjis of, moreover this guy allowed everyone of them to walk all over him
Bruh this guy IS a doormat and deservs whatever comes up in future including getting cheated on again
you are right and this is the reason why I am strongly against all sort of therapies. They all try to groom him to be a cuck because she was a "victim". However, deep down she wanted to be unfaithful, she wanted someone better than her husband. Manipulation can only work if a person being manipulated wants those things. Everything she did was her secret cravings.
@@amrokas I always advise men to take advice/suggestions of therapists with a pinch of salt especially if matters involve relationships, particularly with women
Over the time period these therapists (or so-called "relationship saviours") have done nothing other than play the tune of feminism 24/7 and validate women while shifting the blame entirely on men!
Frankly in these times I don't even know of a particular big institution or field (including those that you never expected ) which have distanced itself from the ideologies feminists promote
Bruh men seriously need to learn a thing or two from their ancestors
He's not a doormat, he's a fucking reusable toilet paper.
@@theredstar6493Just wait it won’t be long before the feminist opinion is it’s sexist, insecure, and controlling to not let your wife sleep with other men.
Ikr. He’s the most gullible empty minded human ever. Couldn’t even form a single thought of his own.
As my advice to men as a psychologist myself: NEVER have a female councilor in situations like this! There is an unfortunate trend of female councilors empathising with the women and becoming biased towards a good outcome for the other woman in the room, as obsessed to the best outcome for BOTH, as shown in this story. Best advice is to get the coucilor to be the same gender as the WRONGED party.
She was also payed by Op's wife
This should be highlighted to those required to do reconciliation by courts. Its mentally exhausting and torturing enough to go through the process only to be gaslighted in every session.
Never stay with a cheater
I know people will say cheater's are always cheater's but if you stay with a remorseful cheater you will never trust them they will feel more and more guilty hence making your already broken relation more broken it's better to leave man
But guess what now you can manipulate them by using the guilt and do whatever you please with them 😈
31:19
This is not a medical professional.
There is no clinical difference between psychopathy or sociopathy. These are archaic terms in psychology, and no one is diagnosed a sociopath or psychopath at this point. When the term is used, it is always used colloquially.
Prior to the recategorization as antisocial personality disorder (APD), some schools of thought suggested that the distinction between psychopaths and sociopaths was the development of the pathology. One was inherited, a genetic mutation; the other was socialized, the product of trauma. There was also a notion that one or the other might be more violent, but which one "was" changed repeatedly over time, such as to be a meaningless diagnostic criterion.
APD today makes no distinction between hereditary or socialized pathology, as the traits that develop are the same and the distinction is diagnostically worthless.
This counselor is most likely a licensed talk therapist, but has not attended medical school - they are almost certainly not capable of diagnosing anything, only providing standardized treatments. At least, I'd hope that Sweden isn't teaching people about this antiquated perception. There's no real data to support it, for one, and for two the DSM releases as it does because of international research. It's not just some goofy American book, but a global guide to mental health diagnosis.
You're right to say that nobody is diagnosed with either pathies, but having been professionally accused of having one, I can safely say that the terms are still being used.
The difference is in the doctor's wording and intent. Due to laws preventing doctors from diagnosing absent people, professionals often turn to broader terms in order to avoid the -lawsuit- confusion.
Taking this case in point, the therapist uses the term "sociopath" to give a general gist of the problematic behavior while not allowing OP's thread to claim they diagnosed a person they never met.
I mean the therapist never outright said that Marjus was a sociopath. She said he had sociopathic tendencies. That allowed her to give a clear answer to OP as to his behavior while not officially diagnosing him.
Easier to reconcile because of "her ownership"? Based on what he said she's portrayed herself as the victim the entire time. He hasn't provided any kind of evidence where she's admitted agency in the affair. According to her it all happened TO her and not BECAUSE of her. Dude is an idiot.
She is A victim, she DID admit her fault as OP specifically says that here 44:50
Honestly, after OP left the divorce papers and the ring behind, everything the wife did afterwards just screams "DAMAGE CONTROL" to me, and nothing more. I have no respect for people who only own up to their mistakes when they have to face real consequences.
So what if he "wins"? He already won when she slept with him. OP says it's for him, but honestly, this guy has zero self respect. I hope it's worth it.
One of the biggest SIMPS stories out there.
Like seriously 🤦
Ye I can't understand taking such woman back....
Therapist clearly likes to influence his decisions. She was the winner of the game.
Marriage worth saving my ass🤦🏽♂️.
Do you know that marrige?
My guess is this is a fan-fiction written by someone who cheated and puts all the blame on cheating partner, while believing their spouse should forgive everything because they were "the victim".
I don't see the point in staying with a cheater.
Let's assume that the cheater never cheats again, how could you ever trust the cheater ever again? Why put yourself through the torment of destroyed trust. Even if the cheater says they'll do anything to make things right, the cheater will tire of the distrustfullness of the cheated partner.
Start over with someone new. Someone who hasn't betrayed your trust. Someone you don't have to worry is out screwing someone else.
Just move on.
I knew the second he brought up "bigots" he was gonna select the cck route
Same, confirmed as he started referring to her as his wife instead of stbx
Who thinks that the wife is the real sociopath? She cheated on husband, destroyed the life of the handsome and charming new boss and then got the husband to stay! 😮
He's a nazi, she lost her employment also, she's not getting a job if they found it she was with a nazi that has it tattooed on his body
She wasn’t sorry for doing it, she was sorry for getting caught
you can easily tell its fake when a cheating SO doesn't have a password on their phones.
I knew it was bs when the plot twist is that the charismatic and handsome boss that cucked him is actually a woman-beating Neo-Nazi. OP might suck at pleasing women but at least he knows how to please Redditors.
Bruhhh being manipulated by a sociopath or not, I would not want a partner/spouse to be so weak willed that they bend the knee within the week of meeting some sociopath manipulator
Bros NEVER go to a female relationship counselor
More like never go to a therapist if it involves relationship, particularly with women
Over the time these therapists/psychologists have proved to be the epitome of female validation and support often at the cost of men and their sanity
Same goes for religious institutes be it churches/temples or anything else, they're all for the same feminist bs in order to appear progressive and fill up their pockets
unless you want to troll😂
As a woman I actually agree with this. For some reason they have a herd mentality and try to gaslight people into staying with someone that isn't worth it. He needs to do what's best for him and a therapist shouldn't try to convince the decisions but help them work through their feelings. But not tell them how to feel
This was a 47 min NTR defeat story, LMAO
It is wild. When you love someone, you do not cheat on them, no matter how much they try to manipulate them! No matter how hard is your life, how little confidence you have or whatever. You seek proper solutions for problems in your life, such as discussing stuff with your spouse, canselling and so on. Not cheating!!
Also: if someone talked badly about my husband in front of me, I would have teared them to shreds! Because my marriage is my own business, and no one has the right to intervene in it with their sticky disgusting comments!
Overall I feel like his therapist pushed her own view of what happened with his wife on him. Also, her comments about "you are running from your problems" e.t.c. are weirdly victim blaming? My therapist usually did not tell me stuff like this, she asked me questions how I felt, what I wanted, what was the best course of action in my opinion e.t.c.
Holy shit this guy is a doormate. He is easily manipulated
He's not a doormat, he's a fucking reusable toilet paper.
I got half way through before reading the comments and realizing I was wasting my time. Maybe I could get it if he had spent months grooming her until she cheated, but nobody is enough of a master manipulator to convince someone to cheat in 1 week. She did that of her own choice, the only person who got groomed is OP.
Yikes. OP is more easily manipulated than his wife if he believes all the bs she’s feeding him. It’s disgusting that they’re all shifting the blame onto Marjus, the “evil” affair partner, to justify the cheating. Almost as if though OP’s wife had no agency to make decisions for herself, which is far from the truth. She chose to cheat, but is still unwilling to take accountability for her actions. And OP is okay with that??? He’s a dumbass who’ll regret reconciling with a cheater.
Once a cheater always a cheater. Only a spineless simp charming white knight take a cheater back, like this op.
@@ianmoritzplatapino3684 Cheaters are at fault for there cheating, but DO NOT EVER underestimate true sociopath. They are really master manipulator and weak minded people are their favorite prey.
Unfortunately, OP wife was one of them.
Women aren’t held to the same standard that men are
You're braindead.
Grooming is manipulation. The manipulation undermines a person's willingness/capacity to express agency. Being possessed of agency doesn't mean that your ability to express it can't be compromised. That's the entire reason she needed to pursue therapy.
It's the same kind of mindfuck that happens when someone is being domestically abused. OP is absolutely not being manipulated, and if you are so personally offended by cheating that you can't recognize something as glaringly obvious as what's happening here, you need a mental checkup. You're not operating with all faculties in place.
And all the "therapists", "Psychologists", "Psychiatrists" and what not are on the side of the toxic person.
Doormat of the century goes to this poster, I don’t think people understand that even though he was a sociopath HSE STILL WILLINGLY WENT ALONG WITH ALL OF IT, she’s just as bad, she had enough control to stop it then, that means she had more than enough control the entire time, she’d be homeless if this happened to me
Yup! She was in control early on, but some attractive guy have her a little attention and she put out like a 4ooker
This therapist is probably one of those that thinks that the woman is always the victim, even when she willingly cheats on her faithful husband. DISGUSTING.
No wonder him and his wife married they have so much in common, getting easily manipulated
Out of all the simps out there, you sir, are the true simp king 👑
So... "I haven't met him since" was another lie, and the therapist outright gaslit him into taking her back?
His choice and all that shit - but like what tf is it with... weak? people? She cheated in a week. She fucked him in THEIR bed. She mentally abused him for 11 months and hey it's okay because I was being "manipulated"? I have a dark history with relationships (as in family, friends, crushes ect... and what they've done to me) to the point where I'm 26 and still never been in a relationship. It's really not super hard to cut someone off IMO.
She allowed this to happen.
Bro's not a doormat he's the sidewalk
Again, and again and again with the "made me do it". Go I hate therapists too, this thing was 100% not neutral and ready to rationalize anything no matter how ridiculous.
Wife isn't a victim. Even if you blindly believe he was a sociopath, It says so much more of her character that she was "swayed" by random colleagues on the first fucking week, than the actual affair.
There can be no amount of rationalization that can explains or make it acceptable, and there can be no amount of family heirlooms and photo albums that can restore trust when she gleefully destroyed everything for pride (as she said, she felt pride in being chosen).
What's infuriating is how everyone is trying to paint her an helpless victim, victim of being chosen, victim of fucking the guy a week after she met him, victim of getting with an abusive bastard, victim of this victim of that.
She's not, we all make choices and the one thing that is a continuous choice through and through is cheating.
A doormat is always a doormat. She was dishonest and manipulative as they were reconciling. This has to be rage bait and a waste of almost an hour.
No way this is real lol. If it is I wish them the best but the fact that she cheated on the first week shows that this isn’t about manipulation.
Ops wife was paying for the therapist. That alone was enough reason not to trust the therapist but Op's wife got her moneys worth
Dude be gaslighting himself. First the therapist. And humself.
How can people be such a doormat 😂
Liberal logic
He said he "really hates racists".
I will laugh very hard when his wife cheats on him again.
Tbh idc if he stays with her but just be careful with her,cheaters will always be cheaters
She’s too easily manipulated. She’ll keep cheating
It’s like one of those stories of soldiers coming back from war and knowingly, raising someone else’s kid.
Or an Italian Grandma admitting after he died, that she knew about her husband nighttime affairs but stayed with him despite that because ‘he only truly loved her.
The fact that she cheated on him almost immediately and how she Shat on him despite everything they've been through and everything she knows as truth is one thing, then she gets to claim victim status like she's a victim and the counselor says that as well and this man stupidly takes her back like a dumb ass. And she doesn't realize any of this until he's about to divorce her. This dude is a damn clown 🤡 the counselor said it her self. The wife WILLINGLY PLAYED ALONG. This marjus dude needs to catch a beat down honestly. He needs to learn a hard lesson because this is not the first time he's done this.
Bro, relax. This is fanfic, but even if this was real, no amount of manipulation can make someone cheat unless they willingly want to. So no matter how much you hate that guy, it's not him that is your true enemy but her who betrays you.
@@bastalam agreed
Can't wait till another man shows her any interest. She going to do him dirty all over again. But this time he deserves it.
Bro. Like even if they lived out the rest of their life without her ever cheating again and being the best wife possible, how can he not have the self respect enough to leave? How does he look at her naked and not feel like vomiting EVERY TIME. This story just pissed me off man.
Agreed. I think it's fake.
@@Shino83it’s not. I spoke with the OP
@@krisd1996 When and where? I think it's fake because I couldn't find it on reddit or TAM.
I could more so understand saving the marriage if kids are involved but without any kids it should be easier to more on. The wife fulfilled dreams for another man without even considering the OP’s fantasy.
Totally agree
I still don't get it... A Sociopath doesn't mean he has magical powers. Why did his therapist jump to the conclusion that the guy was a sociopath when they only had limited information from hubbies side? The the therapist seemed to be trying to push them back together.
If this was a movie the sociopath and the therapist would be husband and wife playing some sick game.
I mean I’ve seen it where my friend got groomed by a girl and fell for it within a month. It took me nearly a year to get him out of that situation. It can definitely happen very quickly.
Charming, he's a doormat. Also gotta love her "apology" by the beach. Sums up to "I cheated because I'm spineless and couldn't say no."
Guess they deserve each other, I wonder how much she was paying his therapist, lol
Congrats You managed to let a psychologist manipulate you into taking back a cheater who will probably do it again. She had every opportunity not to engage in it she chose to be groomed. If if the psychologist really said all that, then she should lose her job because that's some Olympic level apologist behavior she, the wife that is, is just as much the perpetrator as a victim.
Edit: wow, that last bit that confrontation.. is a whole bunch of crap. He never made her do anything, he may have pressured her but she made the choice to surrender to that pressure. I'm glad if they work things out I really am, but this whole I was being manipulated so it's not my fault crap it's just utter b*******.
We all make choices in life, and she said yes when she should have said no. It really is that simple. She chose to cheat.
She cheated within 1 week. You dont get groom in 1 week. She cheated and then got groomed into hating her husband over the 11 months.
He's a sucker for taking her back.
Weakest men in Biden's universe.
Somehow in the end I did agree with Marjus when he said OP is pathetic because it is true. He believed when people gang up on him and said that this is a game and the only way to win is to reconcile. My man here wouldn't even realized it if someone was sawing his leg off even if he was holding one end of the saw.
You agree only because you're a Nazi-sympathizer.
What do Bidens strongest men look like? 💀
I am ashamed at how pathetic OP is and how he has let everyone gaslight and abuse him over and over again.
One thing that strikes me about this one is it's one of the first times I've seen the woman:
A) not ask forgiveness
B) Actually, be honest with OP
I think those 2 things helped contribute to reconciliation.
Someone who cheats is statistically x4 more likely to cheat again. Not to mention she seems very easy to manipulate so that makes her even more likely to be persuade to cheat again. All im saying is good luck to op
I'm glad OP and wife think they have won against Marjus by staying together, though we all know people like Marjus won't be crying for long. They'll be out for a new victim shortly. I also hate that the therapist and family members made OP see the wife as the victim. She basically lost all the blame after they called him a sociopath, making OP's feelings come second to hers.
OP : m not a doormat
But don't even hav enough courage, to question his wife, even whn she started skipping on their date and plans..
Even when the doormat found her sëxting chatting, instead of question his wife, he did nothing.
Even whn his wife mentally abüsingg the doormat, he let it carried this for 1 year.
No standup man who let his wife disrespect their marriage without even some confrontation..
And that groom and socīopath thing is totally bûllshît, just to safe his face.
His wife will do this again after coming out of this.. coz doormat cant standup for themselves.
I dont like the action the OP took. But at the same time I understood. Its as simple as he still loves her. He gave her a second chance. Wanting to believe that her wife changed for the better. Culture this days tend to go to the side that if you do this things. Youre a SIMP. Not really coming to mind that they made memorirs together. Built something together. Loving someone isnt SIMPing is genuine love. Hope the best for the original OP and hope things go well for him and his wife~
All those years together and memories made is cool and all, but how in the holy hell can you ever trust your spouse or former spouse again when they chose to throw all those years and memories away for some supposedly meaningless sex?
@@sharkeatinpizza it’s a personal choice and it’s not for you to understand. You don’t know them or their love or what it’s “worth” to them. Simple.
Being abused for a year because the wife chose to fuck around and still taking her back is the definition of doormat lmfao no shit dude is treated as a sidechick because he'll always be a sidepiece
Why lie to your wife if you don’t want to get back together?
Im sorry i feel like the being “helpless to grooming” part is fucked. Like if you’re a susceptible kid I get it, but if you’re so easily manipulated as an adult, how can you be trusted again to not be manipulated? “I couldn’t resist his perfection and that he chose me and all the other girls were jealous” so if Julio comes from outta town, we gotta go through this again? Tf
What the FUCK!!?? - my original reaction to OP taking her back.
What I’ve heard in the story so far and what I’ve seen in the comments even though she’s blaming it on herself she’s not really blaming herself like every time she kept saying he kept making me feel like a queen, so did your husband, and not only did he not respect her, but she still kept going back I hope this is a fake story because every time she kept explaining her reasoning, she never said that her husband didn’t make her feel like that. In fact, she said her husband treated her amazingly so even though she’s blaming herself, she’s not actually blaming herself, inadvertently she’s blaming her husband for not treating her as well as marjus and frankly It’s clear that she was kind of groomed, but she allowed herself to be groomed by a dude named marjus, anybody who let themselves be groomed and throws away the best thing that ever happened to them for someone who sounds like they’ll be selling legal substances on a street corner kind of deserves what they get
These videos are amazing when exercising. I go about 2, almost 3 miles everyday so far and I always have a video ready for my exercise lol
Stop calling her a victim and saying he made her do anything. She is not a victim. She chose to do everything she did with him.
There is no good outcome of this and there is no excuse. The therapist is also a tool.
he should have the word “Welcome!” tattooed on his face what a doormat.
OOP if you ever get the chance to cheat you better take it you got the biggest hall pass ever:)
I was manipulated. She was a perfect woman and just knew how to get me to do what she wanted. I didn't want to fuck, but there I was with my pants down pile driving her. I couldn't control it. It was like she was using the force to direct me. She was definitely a sith.
This is BS, so anyone can use that excuse if they cheat. Never believe a cheater.
I'm happy for him. I wouldn't be able to get back with a cheater, but good for OP.
Gaslighting 101 right here
I know the first part of the story.. Didn't know the rest.. Thanks
One of the best videos so far from everything up until now. He is a real MAN. Adore him love him ,she will never find anyone like him . His kindness is far greater than any
revenge,vengeance 🎉🎉. This is solely the case when the cheating partner is a victim ,not someone who willingly do it and blame others for their infedility and try to guilt trap the good partner 🎉🎉
Cheating is wrong; you're either monogamous or you're not. Even if there are contributing factors, the reasons people cheat are simple: they felt horny and had opportunity. The rest are just coping mechanisms; closure, my ass.
Looking at the story, so... you're telling me that instead of stating he was outraged by his wife's behavior when she bailed on him, he poisons the water by saying she bailed on his poor sick friend!? The first time he went through her phone, he took photos of their sexting but had no concrete evidence and needed more... after getting more...
When she was engaging in, umm... group activities, instead of displaying anger, he displays jealousy about being denied such activities and takes the moral stand that racism is bad...
Then justifies taking her back because the therapist told him not to let him win and that the poor thing was groomed. Either this is totally fabricated, or this is some doormat with no backbone. Either or, they only ruined one house.
You don’t have to meet her if you don’t want to tell her you will give her 15 minutes after she signed the papers.
the legendary doormat,
He won. He slept with your wife and you stayed like a cuckhold. He ruined her and your marriage and instead of moving on. You stayed. He won. Your wife is no longer yours, it’s just your turn right now. When another Handsome, Wealthy guy shows her interest again. She will cheat. It’s just what cheaters do. She has the power to mess around with other guys, whilst having her husband. She got her cake and got to eat it to. I just feel so bad for OP because he was manipulated into taking her back. He is completely clueless to the fact that his wife did what she did, no one forced her. She will do it again. She lied about seeing AP while trying reconciliation. Knowing if she told him she was planning on seeing him, I bet OP would have left for good. He never got that chance. I feel so bad for him. I wish nothing bad ever happens to him again. It’s bad enough he’s been cheated on. Now he’s stuck with the woman who broke his heart, and he’s misplacing his anger towards AP, when it was his wife that made the decision to cheat. Poor guy
It went from "this dude is a nazi" to "part of a group that defends nazis" and realized this dude was an absolute doormat. He absolutely beat it to those videos he found.
Yeah
These psychologists are cucks 😂. They keep trying to wear down the op so he just agrees to get back together and they get a victory
Most of them, especially in couple's thing, are female, so it's not out of the question that some tribalism or sorority effect would have shine through.
RIP Danial he's in a better place
Why date a cheater ☠
As a swede, i am ashamed of this man.
"Not because im a doormat"
Press X to doubt
I don’t think they deserve the negative, yea it’s unheard of for a marriage to be saved after cheating but no one confidently knows that marriage, no marriage is like the one before or after, frankly it felt beautiful and worth to fight for, I’ve been cheated on and yea I walked away but I can 100% say it wasn’t a snap of my fingers and left there’s a lot to it mentally and emotionally