For anywhere you want tight tolerances my advice would be to cut the first pass over sized using the "stock to leave" option in Fusion360 and then come back in and creep up on the fit by repeating the contour toolpath on just the bit where you want a tight fit, on each pass slowly adjust the stock to leave until it's as you want. After a while you get to know your machine and can creep up on really good fits without too many iterations. BTW you can have a positive or negative "stock to leave" in fusion360 i.e. cut undersized or over sized compared to the CAD model.
Man, your videos are such a treat to watch! for someone that pays such close attention to details like me I can tell that you do too and it shows in your work and its very pleasing to watch. That is besides your filming abilities and the way you edit your videos its an art and you mastered it. Just wanted to share how your many videos I have watched have made me feel. Keep up the great work !
I made some small boxes like this on my cnc also. But I cut it I 3 bits to bottom and centre bit then glued the centre and bottom bits together. I did that to save time on the cut process. Nice video
The problem I’ve had with friction fit hardwood boxes is the fit will change over the year even if it’s perfect when cut. It can be loose in the summer and too tight to open in the winter. Or vice versa. Because of this I now cut them loose and add magnets.
The humble lided box has so much to teach. Warp, tuning speeds and feeds, different cutters (try single flute), tollerences for a good fit. As for fusion360. Now that you have your model, learn how parameters work. Make the x and Y (to start) dimensions parameters and suddenly you can make any size and rectangle too. A round box can be oval with just a parameter change. Have fun. ~P
Great video as always! Love the Fireman axe over the weber woodshop sign. Very cool music for the beginning of the hand sanding, being a DJ in my previous career I appreciated the music and video editing. Keep it up!
fusion360 is my favorite, im going to dive deep into it, my new onefinity is on its way and i have a basic understanding of fusion, all the other ones i cant grasp for some reason
They look nice. Little time and money invested in the project, just the CNC. I've been making jewelry/Valet boxes for 40 years. I can see where this method might be of some use.
I would recommend following Winston moy, nycnc and Lars Christiansen. I just made a box on my shapeoko. This turned out nice. You could of used and 3D adaptive path and made it go faster. Fusion is great but I have a lot to learn myself.
Fusion is very conservative in toolpath depths and plunge angles. Much time can be won by setting a much steeper plunge angle and deeper passes. The router can handle it.
Awesome thanks. As a complete novice, I was wondering what is the accuracy one can achieve on a mass production doing this process? Meaning if I set specific sizes with the cnc, how accurate will be let's say the actual inside pocket compared to the settings? Because I have 200 ceramic dishes (rectangle shape) and I would like to have 200 trays made and then put the dishes inside the trays (I'd like them to fit as precise as possible without leaving to much of a gap). Would you say too much variation occurs among the trays causing some dishes to fit and some don't?
Fix the slop with a thin strip of lighter colored veneer around the outside of the lip not only would it fix your problem but also would add a nice accent
У вас очень грамотно распределено место в мастерской! Каждое место кажется максимально функциональным и продуманным! Превосходно! Были мысли снять видео на эту тему?
Regarding the issue with tolerances... at 3:31 the router moves quite visibly under just finger pressure. Now, I've not used a Shapeoko so I don't know if that's normal, but that looked like quite a lot of deflection. If that's normal, you may want to heed the advise of a comment further below and utilize some stock-to-leave and do a final finishing pass. But I'd also check and make sure something isn't loose on your Z-axis because those lids were off by a lot more than 5 thou.
JM Lav I went to your channel to see all the extremely interesting things you’ve made and all the extremely interesting videos you’ve worked so hard to produce and whadayaknow... nothing. Thanks for the comment and have a nice day, troll.
Yes, for three reasons. One: NOISE. Its much quieter in that box. And Two: You can’t always use the dust boot. Especially when you are trying to film what it’s cutting. And Three: SAFETY. I’ve crashed the machine more than once, and carbide chips fly like shrapnel. Also my kids are fascinated by the robot so with the box they can stand in front of it and watch it cut.
Awesome project and the finish working on this. I was wondering do you have any noise avoidance in your enclosure? Right now I want to improve my shapeoko xxl enclosure and want some good advices for sound and dust collector.
Awesome project, Blake! The walnut turned out fantastic. How did you like the Simple Finish vs the wipe on poly you have used in some of your other videos?
The lid looked looser than the few thousandths the run out would cause. It is also possible that your bit diameter is not smack on what is advertised on its package. To find out the bit's diameter model a 1 inch square and a 2 inch square. Cut them both out with the center of the bit following along the lines of the square. (not outside the square and not inside the square). Measure the squares in both directions; they should be very close to the same measurements. Call the 1 inch square's side length A and the 2 inch square's side length B. The bit's diameter should be 1-A. However, there is a chance that your machine does not move exactly 1 inch when told to do so (variances in belt tension, backlash etc.) As a further check, The bit diameter should also be B-2*A Also, if B-A should be 1, but if it is something like (.97 or 1.05 for example) then that is the amount the machine travels when told to move one inch.
Hey Blake, I stumbled across your videos today and instantly fell in love! I work for Autodesk, specifically the Fusion 360 team as a technical specialist. Let me know if you need any help with modelling/programming for one of your future projects.
Nice! I’m just getting my CNC up and running. I like how this simple project exposed a flaw in your machine. Care to share the g-code so I can try the same thing?
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For anywhere you want tight tolerances my advice would be to cut the first pass over sized using the "stock to leave" option in Fusion360 and then come back in and creep up on the fit by repeating the contour toolpath on just the bit where you want a tight fit, on each pass slowly adjust the stock to leave until it's as you want. After a while you get to know your machine and can creep up on really good fits without too many iterations. BTW you can have a positive or negative "stock to leave" in fusion360 i.e. cut undersized or over sized compared to the CAD model.
100% this
Kai Wheeler Thanks for this, some of the best tips are in the comments.
This piano piece for the carving is an exhilarating choice. A real meditative time watching your videos ;)
the production of this video is A+ ... captivated me
You have so many cool things in your garage, that's workshop goals!
Carbide3D has top notch support.
Man, your videos are such a treat to watch! for someone that pays such close attention to details like me I can tell that you do too and it shows in your work and its very pleasing to watch. That is besides your filming abilities and the way you edit your videos its an art and you mastered it. Just wanted to share how your many videos I have watched have made me feel. Keep up the great work !
Thank you!
So good! I am sure your boys were stoked! Great to see you back in the shop and makin videos.
Very nice. That walnut is beautiful
Very good use of stickers on the router and dust collection!
I made some small boxes like this on my cnc also. But I cut it I 3 bits to bottom and centre bit then glued the centre and bottom bits together. I did that to save time on the cut process. Nice video
awesome project and easy to watch thank you
Simple and sleek, love it. Great job
Thank you!
I’m at this point in my new journey. About to make a similar, but super long box for a knife as a gift.
Beautiful box! Awesome job, You need clean sweep rings on your jessem lift :)
Easy but really nice job ! I love your shop man 👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
U really rock dude! greetings from germany :)
The problem I’ve had with friction fit hardwood boxes is the fit will change over the year even if it’s perfect when cut. It can be loose in the summer and too tight to open in the winter. Or vice versa. Because of this I now cut them loose and add magnets.
Great builds. Shame about the slack lid issue, a couple coats of poly would take up that gap & you can hide it behind the waxing finish
funny, i called Shapeoko about the same issue back in july and they told me i would have to buy a new router for the cnc machine.
You don't have a youtube channel advertising their product.
Fantastic!
Very good editing skils... Supuper audio...wonderfull content... Thanks for what you do ... Subscribed! 😉
The humble lided box has so much to teach. Warp, tuning speeds and feeds, different cutters (try single flute), tollerences for a good fit. As for fusion360. Now that you have your model, learn how parameters work. Make the x and Y (to start) dimensions parameters and suddenly you can make any size and rectangle too. A round box can be oval with just a parameter change. Have fun. ~P
sbirdranch yeah so many possibilities! Thanks!
warping or cupping is a major issue for me and so frustrating when it occurs from deep pocket cuts
Nice job. I’ve made a lot of cool stuff with my Shapeoko, but ultimately I found this machine really shines making jigs and templates.
Mark Ryan yeah I’m looking forward to using it for that type of thing as well.
You’re the maaaaaan
Great video as always! Love the Fireman axe over the weber woodshop sign. Very cool music for the beginning of the hand sanding, being a DJ in my previous career I appreciated the music and video editing. Keep it up!
Johnny Reagan awesome thanks!
Love the bender drawing
Cool little boxes, Blake!
Love your video editing style 👌🏼. Enjoying your experience with the CNC and Fusion.
Matt Key Thank you!
Love this box ...very cool
fusion360 is my favorite, im going to dive deep into it, my new onefinity is on its way and i have a basic understanding of fusion, all the other ones i cant grasp for some reason
Thank you for sharing your challenges. Great job.
Thank you!
was hoping for fusion 360 tips. Just starting to learn fusion 360 myself and i have my first cnc in the mail atm
Maybe try inlays of white epoxy? I think it'd make the name stand out more👍🏻 Great boxes, keep it up!
They look nice. Little time and money invested in the project, just the CNC. I've been making jewelry/Valet boxes for 40 years. I can see where this method might be of some use.
Thank you!
Beautiful 👏👏👏👏👏 from Brazil.
Benger is awesome ! 😍
Those came out great! Video was a joy to watch as well.
Adams LeatherWorks Thank you!
Nice!
Greetings from Austria/Vienna.
Thank you!
Awesome project Blake, and I'm sure Nolan and Carson will love them.
Thanks for sharing!
Felix From Nebraska thank you!
Awesome
Nice! I have been doing these little boxes for a few years on my S3 using CM definitely fun little projects.
I would recommend following Winston moy, nycnc and Lars Christiansen. I just made a box on my shapeoko. This turned out nice. You could of used and 3D adaptive path and made it go faster. Fusion is great but I have a lot to learn myself.
Bryce Cacho thanks! Yes I follow both of them. Winston is my contact at Carbide 3D.
i love the CNC project!
아주 이쁘고 멋지고 아름답다.
These are great. I need to get back into fusion and try something like this.
Fusion is very conservative in toolpath depths and plunge angles. Much time can be won by setting a much steeper plunge angle and deeper passes. The router can handle it.
Excelente!
Parabéns pelo trabalho!
Awesome thanks. As a complete novice, I was wondering what is the accuracy one can achieve on a mass production doing this process? Meaning if I set specific sizes with the cnc, how accurate will be let's say the actual inside pocket compared to the settings? Because I have 200 ceramic dishes (rectangle shape) and I would like to have 200 trays made and then put the dishes inside the trays (I'd like them to fit as precise as possible without leaving to much of a gap). Would you say too much variation occurs among the trays causing some dishes to fit and some don't?
A closer look at your wiring for the CNC switches would be awesome! Hopefully pulling trigger on a Shapeoku soon.
Get somthing more rigid, trust me.
Pretty dope homie!
Great video production quality.
Bret Banker ah thanks!
upgrade those clamps... and throw away less good wood or make a bigger boxe ... nice finish
Fix the slop with a thin strip of lighter colored veneer around the outside of the lip not only would it fix your problem but also would add a nice accent
love the video though, keep up the good work.
У вас очень грамотно распределено место в мастерской! Каждое место кажется максимально функциональным и продуманным! Превосходно! Были мысли снять видео на эту тему?
your cnc can do all the steps for you no sense using another machine to cut it out etc?
I'm still learning. And just because a CNC can do steps, doesn't mean its better or even faster when you have a well set-up shop.
nice
"Floss before bed"!
5:49-6:00 is beautiful accidental rap.
I love your workshop.i am also wood Artist...where can I send my wooden sunglasses pictures?
perfect👏
Ahşap Kokusu Thanks!
What is your dust collection setup for the CNC? Curious how many CFMs?
I made a whole video about the enclosure and dust collection. It’s just a tiny shop vac.
Nice job, Blake. Love that curl in Nolan's box.
Fisher's Shop thanks! Yeah there was some nice figure hiding in that chunk of Walnut.
would have like to see some cutting instead of the vac cover
Nice job. Need to get more familiar with Fusion 360. What type of finish did you use? Thanks for sharing.
I get goosebumps only seeing your bandsaw, no bladeguard :-(
but nice boxes!
I know, I need to fix that.
Good stuff! Stupid question: Is it possible to use an automatic CNC lathe to produce complete products? Or will manual intervention still be needed?
Nice job. I want to make some woodwork by myself, but where should I get those wood from?
A lumber store
Looks good man! You might also mic your bits... I find most are off by a few thou and that's enough to affect fit.
Greg's Garage thanks! Those bits from Bits&Bits company are really good quality though so this time it’s just the collet.
Blake Weber Hi Blake. In my opinion the tolerances are too far off to just be a collet or bit issue.
Regarding the issue with tolerances... at 3:31 the router moves quite visibly under just finger pressure. Now, I've not used a Shapeoko so I don't know if that's normal, but that looked like quite a lot of deflection. If that's normal, you may want to heed the advise of a comment further below and utilize some stock-to-leave and do a final finishing pass. But I'd also check and make sure something isn't loose on your Z-axis because those lids were off by a lot more than 5 thou.
GordonGEICO yes I’ve done quite a bit to fix the issue since this video as made.
@@weberwoodshop That's good to hear! Nice shop you got there, I especially like that router table.
How long did it take to cut 1 box?
wow, a CNC video. SOOO interesting.
JM Lav I went to your channel to see all the extremely interesting things you’ve made and all the extremely interesting videos you’ve worked so hard to produce and whadayaknow... nothing. Thanks for the comment and have a nice day, troll.
looks like apple watch edition box, btw may i know the how much is your cnc machine?
Are you saying that it was a whisker too big? Perhaps a mustache trim is in order.
What kind of wood is it?
I want to learn this guys. Any help ?
Now that you have the dust boot, do you think you still need the box you put around the machine. ?
Yes, for three reasons. One: NOISE. Its much quieter in that box. And Two: You can’t always use the dust boot. Especially when you are trying to film what it’s cutting. And Three: SAFETY. I’ve crashed the machine more than once, and carbide chips fly like shrapnel. Also my kids are fascinated by the robot so with the box they can stand in front of it and watch it cut.
How many hours takes to Finnish one box
Check out John Clark he makes boxes using the Carbide software. Has a really nice technique. You still did a great job thanks for sharing
Awesome project and the finish working on this. I was wondering do you have any noise avoidance in your enclosure?
Right now I want to improve my shapeoko xxl enclosure and want some good advices for sound and dust collector.
Hey super cool video. Curious how long it took to cut the boxes out on the cnc part?
Whats the G-gode sender you are using for the CNC machine? I cant find it in the description :)
Carbide Motion comes with the Shapeoko machine.
Lovely work man. How long have you had the machine at the time of recording?
Plz make is a wood grip for colt.Thnk u
Nice videos!
One question.Have you ever missed sometime a longer rang in Y axis for your CNC for bigger work? Thanks
No. I have a small shop so its the perfect fit.
Hey what's that setup for the split wasteboard? Did you happen to see that somewhere online? Thanks!
Daniel Scrima check out my previous video ULTIMATE CNC ENCLOSURE for the full explanation!
Awesome project, Blake! The walnut turned out fantastic. How did you like the Simple Finish vs the wipe on poly you have used in some of your other videos?
Thanks! I personally prefer the wipe on poly.
what do you put on to colour and finish the box?
Nothing to color it... just clear oil. Its Claro Walnut and has beautiful natural color.
@@weberwoodshop thanks can you point me to the very same oil? I am a in Italy.
@@paolocusinu any wood oil would work the same way :)
What is the wood?
California Claro Walnut
👍👍👍👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I wish I could find a big piece of wood like that. Jealous.
What kind of wood is that?
Been following this on Instagram, and enjoyed every second of it. Are we expecting the entryway table any time soon?
Carter P Thanks But probably not
The lid looked looser than the few thousandths the run out would cause. It is also possible that your bit diameter is not smack on what is advertised on its package. To find out the bit's diameter model a 1 inch square and a 2 inch square. Cut them both out with the center of the bit following along the lines of the square. (not outside the square and not inside the square). Measure the squares in both directions; they should be very close to the same measurements. Call the 1 inch square's side length A and the 2 inch square's side length B. The bit's diameter should be 1-A. However, there is a chance that your machine does not move exactly 1 inch when told to do so (variances in belt tension, backlash etc.) As a further check, The bit diameter should also be B-2*A Also, if B-A should be 1, but if it is something like (.97 or 1.05 for example) then that is the amount the machine travels when told to move one inch.
Harry Ragland lol omg this could not possibly be more over complicated... Calipers will also tell you if the bit is accurate and round ;)
Simple finish? Never heard of it. Looks like an oil varnish blend.
Oil wax blend
Hey Blake, I stumbled across your videos today and instantly fell in love! I work for Autodesk, specifically the Fusion 360 team as a technical specialist. Let me know if you need any help with modelling/programming for one of your future projects.
Jonathan Geffen thank you! You should contact me through my website so we can start email :)
Blake I’m tossing up between a new bandsaw or a CNC machine, can you get a satisfactory CNC for under $2000-? Cheers, Sean
S J S Creations get a bandsaw!!!!!!!!!
Nice! I’m just getting my CNC up and running. I like how this simple project exposed a flaw in your machine. Care to share the g-code so I can try the same thing?
Philip Peterson Thanks! I’m going to share the files on Patreon :)
@@weberwoodshop Blake, hi. I just joined Patreon at the highest level and I can't seem to find this file.
Is this the free version of fusion? Didn’t know you could generate code.
3 axis support for free
Was that a 1/4 collet? Iv been having a problem with mine! I'll have to check into this!
ScSmakes yes it was the one that came with the new Carbide 3D router.
I’ll bet that’s what’s going on! I keep getting these weird circles at the bottom of my work when using v-bits.
Guess I won’t watch this because I’m the average woodworker who can’t afford a CNC
John Albrecht you’ve never watched a video about something you can’t afford?