If you haven't yet, please subscribe by clicking here: th-cam.com/channels/srtvSjgVg8QgRJzysB55xA.html Mt Shasta from a distance seems like an easy climb. Driving by it, it seems like the slopes aren't too steep, and it's not terribly high. But with the many deaths (and mysteries for those interested in that rabbit hole), Shasta is very dangerous and should be respected as such. Even with the obvious dangers, this mountain is so beautiful and alluring, I have to climb it one day. RIP Jillian, she seemed like an awesome person. Such a tragedy.
True that. I was climbing El Diente Peak in the San Juan’s a year ago almost to the day. I was climbing the North Buttress route. Made to 14,100 ft, just 75 more feet to the summit. It was a class 4 climb. I have plenty of experience with 3, 4 and some easy class 5 climbing. I just grabbed the wrong rock and fell about 20 ft onto a rock sticking out from the mountain. If I hadn’t stopped there, I would have fallen about 600 ft. I respect the mountains and maintain good composure will hiking and climbing. Just made a bad mistake and had some grace from God. I’ve done 25 14ers in Colorado now having done 4 this year. All I can say is be carful, wear some type of satellite device with SOS. I have a Garmin In Reach. The only way I got off that mountain. Be safe out there!
I climbed Mt. Shasta with the USMC during Mountain Warfare Training. We lived on the glacier for a week, training. It is the only "mountain peak book" I have ever signed. Yes, there is a book to sign, if you reach the peak, maintained by the Park Service. The peak smelled of sulfur.
Someone below asked how they fell, how this accident specifically happened. I hope I can clear this up: The group she was leading were roped together. Three people tied into the same rope while climbing at the same time. When climbing on snow, it's very common to be all roped together like this, for two reasons. If someone falls, everyone else can dig in and stop their fall, like shown in this video. The second is in case someone falls into a crevasse - Again, they stop the fall, and pluck them out. When the conditions get icy/steep, decisions must be made. If all climbers are skilled, and comfortable, and crevasses are unlikely, they may choose to not rope together - each trusting their own judgement to not fall, and continue to climb carefully, knowing a fall could be serious, but they won't pull one another off their feet if they do fall. This allows them to move quickly, avoiding rapid changes in weather for example. If they decide to continue to be roped together during the more challenging terrain they will belay one another: Basically one person puts in an anchor (ice screws for example driven into the ice) and pulls in the rope as the person below climbs up to them. If the climber falls, the anchor holds their weight and they only fall a couple feet. This team was in icy conditions, while it had been snow down below. Now, they didn't have the experience to climb unroped or were unwilling to take that risk (being guided, this makes total sense). But they were not belaying one another either. This is likely due to their belief they had managed to climb up without issue at that point, and would slowly make their way down as well. Unfortunately someone did fall, at the worst time, and when you fall on ice you must self-arrest immediately - within 1 second - the first few feet, or you will likely never be able to. I should also note that while climbing up can be slower, and harder on your cardio system, climbing down in icy conditions is more technically difficult. What happened in this accident is actually a somewhat common way to fall and be injured, or die. Where you are in that difficult situation and think, "if I can only get down another 200 feet or so, I'll be fine..." Only to have someone slip at that point, and not be able to stop.
If the other guide turned himself and his clients around, then it is likely the conditions were perfectly shitty... And those stupid NW volcanos can get like that... Ice slopes that are perfectly treacherous, too hard to place a picket but not solid enough to place an ice screw... So? What do you do? Some dudes hammer in some of their own home made dog shit... I remember back in the day that Jim Wickwire would make his own custom anchors for certain sketchy pitches on different routes where standard gear didn't give him peace of mind... He made frozen mud anchors for his Willis Wall climb and I know he did some others... Anyhow, you get the idea.
@@jimvick8397 Good post. Yes, being from Oregon and someone who learned to climb in the Cascades, I'm well aware of the semi-frozen heavy slush. Met Wick once at a book signing. More affable guy than his own book made him out to be! Still have that signed book around here somewhere...
Thank you for your excellent, detailed explanation! The video mentioned ropes and harnesses, which raised the obvious question of how this could have occurred. An issue it failed to address. Video producer. Never forget the the basics. Who, What, When and WHY!
RIP Jillian! My dad was a climber and climbed Mt Shasta twice. He always said every mountain is a difficult climb no matter how tall it is. Always respect the mountain.
Where don't accidents happen Mary? What is sober? Should I not drive? People are killed on the highway. Should I not fly on an airplane? Some planes crash. Should not I ride my snowboard? People crash into trees or get under and avalanche. Should I hide under my bed?
So true. And doing something over and over again could probably cause a person to take that for granted . And even with best efforts, an accident can occur. Sobering.
Calling mountain climbing a "challenge" is one of the reasons why people take unnecessary risks. Mountains don't challenge you, they don't care if you reach the summit. They don't care if you die trying. Calling it a "challenge" works as a manipulation, making people think it's up to them to resist their fears and caution. It's like calling cautious mountaineers cowards for turning around before bad weather hits them, or for going back down before they summit when it's late in the day.
Outdoor Disasters always manages to get the most compelling stories! This one is no exception! They always tell the story in the most respectful way possible! This one does that as well Jillian is someone who will be sorely missed by all that knew her! May she rest in peace
I knew Marty Hoey. I worked housekeeping at Snowbird when she was the head of the Ski Patrol. I cleaned her room. She was 10 years older than me. I was in my early 20s and she was in her early 30s. Totally adorable woman. I fell in love with her the first time she smiled at me. She brought down a skier from the side of the mountain once with a compound fracture and a ruptured artery. The guy had hit a tree, hard, and should have died. Marty got a tourniquet on, splinted up the compound fracture, lashed him down like a trussed chicken on a sled and skied him down off the side of the mountain. We all came out to see what was going on when the helicopter landed to take him to the hospital. I watched Marty load him on board. He required a vascular surgeon to repair the ruptured artery, but they they patched him up, set the compound fracture, and he completely recovered. Marty fell off Everest the next year.
I driven past Mt Shasta so many times. It really is a gorgeous mountain. Hard to take your eyes off it. This massive beautiful mountain off I-5. Sad story. Another great video OD!
It is too bad this happened but when you participate in a sport that can cost you your life with the smallest of mistakes or a fluke of nature happening then this is the result. I’m fascinated by mountain climbers and I read a lot of books, but their death is really their own doing whether it be a mistake they made or a natural cause such as an avalanche. They are the ones that decided to make the attempt.
@@adambane1719 not at all, the comments exactly on. It’s easy to say that it’s an educated, but you don’t seem to give me any reasons why your genius self think so.
@@adambane1719 yeah I didn’t think you’d have a response. It’s much easier to call somebody stupid them to actually say why that’s the case isn’t it? That’s when the shoe flips and kicks you in the ass cause if you cant explain then you obviously the highhly an educated one.
If you stay home on the sofa drinking beer and eating buffalo wings and then die of heart disease that too is your own choice and your own doing. Every choice has consequences, even the choice to do nothing.
I climbed Mount Shasta earlier this year, it was quite the climb on saw a massive and striking hulk of a peak. When you approach it from I5, it seems such a huge mountain, and then you get close and realize how truthfully huge the thing is. We thankfully got to the summit and back without incident, but I did have to use my ice axe to stop a couple minor slips on the descent through red banks before it turned into a full arrest. We thankfully had good snow for most of the climb, but I can so very certainly see how a little bad icy snow could turn the section up to red banks into a death trap. Love your videos, keep up the good work!
Another awesome video! Its so well researched and narrated and you’re very respectful of the victims and survivors in a tasteful classy way. I learned more about Mt. Shasta today than I thought I knew. My mind is blown. Love this channel!
Easily became among my favorite channels on TH-cam. Everything is done with so much research and respect to those whom have perished. This channel is pure class!
My deepest sympathy to the family, friends, and colleagues of Jillian. As we have all been learning here on "Outdoor Disasters" no matter how prepared we are, or how much knowledge we have...Natured can not be reckoned with. We can not ever assume, or predict, the unforgiving moods swing that accompany nature no matter when or where. So when we decide to go on these adventures, we should always think about this and be absolutely certain we want to take that risk, because risk is there waiting no matter how ready and prepared we think we are. I'm learning so much here on "Outdoor Disasters" thank you! 💖🌹
Prayers to their family and friends. Lost a dear friend to Mt. Shasta in late March and this definitely is another reminder that the mountains are always a very dangerous place. Beautifully dangerous.
I climbed Mt Shasta in 1984. I was not experienced at all. I didn't go straight up by Avalanche gulch. I veered off and climbed the ridge to the right. Made it that day and what a view. Then I climbed Mt Shasta the next year 1985 with my buddy. We made it to the top together, pushing each other. On our way down we went through the Red Banks rock and slide all the way down to Helen lake. What took us hours to climb up that way, took us about 1 min to get down. You just have to watch out and control your descent with your Ice Axe behind your shoulder. It was so much fun back then. The only thing that you really had to watch out for was falling rocks by other climbers in June.
In the 80’s climbed with my girlfriend off to the right of Avalanche gulch somehow after hours of climbing making it to the top. We both were unexperienced and totally unprepared and ignorant of the climbing dangers. I remember being really scared but elated to make it to the top. The most adventurous part of the hike was hiking back to our car in the middle of the night. We were young, adventurous and oblivious to the real dangers of mountain climbing.
I live 15 min drive away from Mount Shasta. It was chilling to hear of this event when it happened. Now listening to your narration I get chills hearing the familiar names from my childhood in such a context.
Love Mt. Shasta. It’s so beautiful and accessible. One of the better climbs I’ve done. I’ve got Rainier and St. Helens now. What a tragedy for the guide and her future. LOVE the videos, so much!!
You should do a bit on those hikers that fell through a cornice thinking they were on solid ground and fell to their deaths with one person falling behind and stopping dead in her tracks when she saw her friend's tracks disappear...it was on some mountain in British Columbia a few years ago...
This video is pretty intense. As a NOLS Outdoor Educator, W92 Olympic Mountains, this story is heattbreaking. Mr. Shasta is particularly dear to me. I bow in respect for it's glorious awe. If this could happen to her it can happen to anyone...anyone...anyone. Love to the family and community 💚
I'm not a mountain climber so this question comes from a place of ignorance. Why rope together on such a mountain. Surely, however tragic, it is better to lose one than potentially losing three? Trying to self arrest to hold the weight of three I would assume is virtually impossible for anyone especially on an ice patch. As sad and as tragic as it was, she died doing an extreme sport that she loved. That is of little consolation to those loved ones left behind but she did it because she loved it. RIP x 😢
I looked it up and it seems to be a way to help stop someone from slipping or falling down a steep slope or crevasse. I think it's because it's easier to have multiple people able to stop someone from falling. It seems to be more effective with a group of 3 or more.
@@outdoordisasters Oh ok, I was just taking a guess and looking it up because I don't mountain climb myself but am curious about it. It seems like there are good arguments on either side of the debate. I'm guessing it comes down to the exact situation the climbers are in.
imo rope teams are great for some areas and situations and not so great for others. When they work they can and generally work well with saving people from falls down steep slopes or into crevasses. It really depends on conditions and the rout though if it's best to ride together or chance it alone on a fall. In my experience it is more common in crevasse country though, and on my climb of Shasta we saw a couple rope teams but us and most others weren't roped in.
Despite the dangers, it’s so beautiful. My older brother almost got a chance to backpack/hike with his Scout Troop in the area when he was younger, but the trip had to be canceled.
You started a craze in me Outdoor Disasters! I crave these stories. I found a show on Hulu called Extreme Rescues and to my dismay it only has 6 eps! I just discovered this channel and it is going to take no time to get through these videos. T_T I love you man
That's awesome! I highly suggest watching I Shouldn't Be Alive series. About a 10 year old series. IMO the best survival show of all time with excellent recreations and amazing stories. They're all over youtube and are my main inspiration for starting this channel.
😍😍😍 I shall thank you! You are the best! Time to marathon the rest of your videos until I am out! I been making my family watch these too XD@@outdoordisasters
"HIghly experienced" but didn't even realize the mountain slope under those icy conditions was an unprecedented death slide. Not to say that a deadly fall can't happen in less extreme snow conditions. Maybe it's more accurate to say she was somewhat experienced. Rest in Peace to all of them, they died too soon, though doing something they must have loved.
Her mountaineering experience is distinct from her business experience. Someone pays for a specific date and that feels more important than climbing fundamentals. Just look at what happens on Everest..
I started up from Bunny Flat that afternoon on a solo summit attempt and planning to stay at Horse Camp that night and then continue to Lake Helen the next day. I saw all the EMT personnel in the parking lot but for some reason I assumed they were doing a training exercise. None of them said don't go up and it wasn't posted at the Kiosk to not go up so I went up. On the way I was hearing helicopters but I was still in the trees. Climbers coming down started telling me don't go up its treacherous conditions. I went up to Horse Camp and encountered a few climbers who all said the same thing, don't go up. From Horse Camp I could see helicopters hovering but not what they were doing. Then I decided I better call off the climb.
That was so sad last year. I'm from Mount Shasta. I know the mountain guide's. Never met her, but have seen her in town. Small community.. whenever something like that happens, anywhere in California or Oregon. The ski patrol, mountain guide's ECT. All get together somewhere to pay there respects and support each other
Kinda amazes me how many medical professionals do this hi risk stuff, but thankful. My sister (PhD therapist) was kayaking in a new river with her husband and some friends - 2 of whom were emergency doctors. She got caught under a tree trunk and probably would have died had they not been there
Ive always been an adventurous type, have enjoyed white water rafting and endurance equestrian trail riding, but Mtn. climbing has never interested me in the least. Battling the elements, freezing conditions, and the sheer physical exertion involved in such extreme conditions, nope. I'm all about fun not pushing myself to the brink of death.
Being roped together was a tragic mistake. If one person falls everybody falls. Everyone's fate is dependent on the skills of the weakest climber who is most likely to take a misstep and fall. It happens so quickly and the forces of the falling climber are too great for the other climbers to react and anchor themselves before they are pulled off the mountain with the falling climber. Roping together is appropriate for some situations and conditions, but not for the situation and conditions these climbers were in. Being roped together can give a false sense of security when in fact it puts everyone in greater danger. This is well-documented in the annals of climbing tragedies.
@@outdoordisastersHi. During my 40 years of ski bumming I did some ski mountaineering. But not a real climber by any means. One day I found out how fast you accelerate when you fall on a very steep icy pitch. I was skiing a very narrow couloir on Hayden Pk in Utah when I went ass over tea kettle. In the blink of an eye I was going scary fast. By the time I got my skis downhill I was going too fast for them to bite and I was headed straight for the rocks at least 30 mph (it felt like 90) and still accelerating. What saved my bacon was foresight. I learned how to do a ski pole self arrest long before I thought I'd ever ski anywhere that I'd need it. And then one day I needed it. I grabbed my right pole above the basket with my left hand and drove it into the icy snow with my left hip and right hand using all my weight. It worked like a charm and I stopped right before the rocks. I stood up without a scratch and grinned at my friends. Their looks of horror instantly turned into big smiles. They were expecting the worst. That was in the mid-80s before helmets we're a thing. Without the self arrest technique I would have hit the rocks going about 50. I would have definitely gotten some dents that wouldn't buff out. :) The moral of the story is, if you're engaged in hazardous outdoor activities, expect the unexpected and prepare for it. You owe it to your loved ones even if you don't care about yourself. Cheers
I climbed Shasta same route but over to left more. No ropes just a ice axe and crampons and helmet it is easy. Ropes don't do much without snow pickets or ice screw anchors in big falls it just makes sure everyone that falls gets smoked. Also guided Denali twice. Clients will kill you if your not very careful. Should have turned around that day.
I've been on many mountains for work , packing and logging, people as a rule don't realize in general, there are no immediate medical services, no immediate removal of any injured, so it's risky at best for novices, and anything can happen to anyone
a expert climber said it was not a good day to climb. but city wealthy people during pandemic want to learn new sports and think they can pay and spend a weekend climber. some get upset if the conditions arent right and they took time off work. the expert said you have to look at the conditions. not even expert climbers can do this trek easily. and there is no room for mistakes. i am a city person. i am not delusional. i will not harm myself or anyone else. i am only a weekend adventurer but i will not climb ice mountains. i dont know anything about ice.
I am no climber but am enamored by others desire for the experience. Am I correct in saying that it used to be that anyone who climbed with a guide had to have decent climbing experience prior to any climb? The 1996 Everest climbing disaster the Krakauer detailed this. RIP Jillian
I've climbed Shasta and it's an exhilarating experience. The summit is fairly easy to reach, but the drop on the back of the summit is pretty dramatic. I guess when I climbed the snow was soft in avalanche gulch because it's hard to me see not being able to arrest. I actually glacaded down this corridor with ice axe in hand no problem. Also personally I have a leash on my ice axe. My guide told me "the ice axe is your friend" - more than that, it's a lifesaver!
You know what? I’d prefer to get that sense of accomplishment from getting an “A” on my trigonometry final!!!!! Ouuuuuu, the lure, the pure lure of Mt. Shasta! It is so worth dying for. Just the thought of living hand to mouth, and then dying during the climb brings me to well, you know 😊😊😊😊Yea! Count me in!
1:36 Only it didn’t erupt 200 years ago ( 1:36 ) Evidence suggests that magma most recently erupted at the surface about 3,200 years ago. www.usgs.gov › mount-shasta
Also a little hard to agree it’s “by far the most stunning”, for reals, Mt Whitney is mind boggling from the Alabama Hills. Shasta is incredibly Incredibly stunning though, I’d put it equal to Whitney in that “contest”.
I've seen a ranger go up the trail on Bunny Flat like a missile. Fast was not the word. Look up and live, watch for Rockfalls, ice. Always be Alert. I've been up to Lake Helen. Watch for edema, headaches.
I don't understand why a group of climbers would attach all of the group to a single line that is not attached to anything else. I've heard of a lot of similar tragic accidents. Also, an experienced guide should be someone with dozens of climbs on the mountain they're guiding under different conditions.
@@StevePastor50 so you spend weeks acclimating and climbing in a tent in freezing weather just to turn around and come down? And people drop like 50k...worst vacation ever lol
Sometimes in the life, the best trained, most experienced, most skilled people in a group can perish. As humans, we often look to blame circumstances or people for fatal incidents. We all have an expiration date and we don't know when it is. Only the Lord knows when you are going to be called before him. As usual, great survival tips and you are saving lives through these videos
There’s a thousand different ways to die climbing a mountain! Even expert climbing Sherpa’s in the Himalayas die in tragic ways. It’s Russian Roulette!
I’ve never climbed any mountain more than probably 1300’ elevation which is basically a pimple compared to these real mountains. For me it’s just for a great workout and a few hour round trip. I suppose some people are just wired for stuff like this and death is most definitely gonna inevitably be one of the outcomes. I do however cycle road and on some decents speeds of 50+ mph are hit. While exhilarating, I realize disaster can happen at any moment but I love the sport and am ok with the risk. I can relate to the passion. RIP.
10:05 That never works out anyway. You can't just flip entire lifestyles. I've known maybe 30 people who have done that and every one has ended in a pretty ugly divorce. It's like a nerd deciding one day that he's gonna be a player, or a player deciding he wants to be a nerd. It's just too different, those neural paths are set.
Connecting each other with rope, no thank you, to me that seams pointless, one goes and all go, doesn't make sense. People underestimate weather and possibly bad conditions, you can't just assume it's going to be a certain way, sosny variables.
I'm guessing you didn't have information about him, but we didn't hear anything at the end about the boyfriend she was moving in with. He had the toughest loss, in my opinion.
MOUNT SHASTA...???? THERE ARE PLACES IN THIS WORLD PEOPLE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE...SHASTA IS ONE OF THOSE PLACES....AS IN THE PARANORMAL IS THERE ..!!!
I can't feel sorry for any of them. They chose to climb a Mountain for whatever reason. I will give some respect to the rescuers though. I'll never understand the "life is so awful, must climb dangerous mountain to feel good"..To each his own I suppose, but no sympathy
Mt Shasta is not normally that dangerous for well prepared climbers. If you or a family member were pursuing a recreational activity such as water skiing or motorcycling and a fatal accident happened I would think it would be okay and a reasonable thing to express sympathy.
@@outdoordisasters i really like the tone of your voice. it reminds me of voice overs i've heard in my childhood, in the '70s. your "read" is very good, serious and respectful.
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Mt Shasta from a distance seems like an easy climb. Driving by it, it seems like the slopes aren't too steep, and it's not terribly high. But with the many deaths (and mysteries for those interested in that rabbit hole), Shasta is very dangerous and should be respected as such. Even with the obvious dangers, this mountain is so beautiful and alluring, I have to climb it one day.
RIP Jillian, she seemed like an awesome person. Such a tragedy.
You can have 100% percent respect for mountains and be a total professional but things will still go wrong.
Just as in life.
True that. I was climbing El Diente Peak in the San Juan’s a year ago almost to the day. I was climbing the North Buttress route. Made to 14,100 ft, just 75 more feet to the summit. It was a class 4 climb. I have plenty of experience with 3, 4 and some easy class 5 climbing. I just grabbed the wrong rock and fell about 20 ft onto a rock sticking out from the mountain. If I hadn’t stopped there, I would have fallen about 600 ft. I respect the mountains and maintain good composure will hiking and climbing. Just made a bad mistake and had some grace from God. I’ve done 25 14ers in Colorado now having done 4 this year. All I can say is be carful, wear some type of satellite device with SOS. I have a Garmin In Reach. The only way I got off that mountain. Be safe out there!
I climbed Mt. Shasta with the USMC during Mountain Warfare Training. We lived on the glacier for a week, training. It is the only "mountain peak book" I have ever signed. Yes, there is a book to sign, if you reach the peak, maintained by the Park Service. The peak smelled of sulfur.
How hard is it?
Sulfur is actually pretty soft, a 1.5-2.5 on the Mohs scale of hardness.
Volcano! That would be scary. Way to go
That is cool man. Thank you for your service.
I drank Shasta soda when I was a kid.
Someone below asked how they fell, how this accident specifically happened. I hope I can clear this up:
The group she was leading were roped together. Three people tied into the same rope while climbing at the same time.
When climbing on snow, it's very common to be all roped together like this, for two reasons. If someone falls, everyone else can dig in and stop their fall, like shown in this video. The second is in case someone falls into a crevasse - Again, they stop the fall, and pluck them out.
When the conditions get icy/steep, decisions must be made. If all climbers are skilled, and comfortable, and crevasses are unlikely, they may choose to not rope together - each trusting their own judgement to not fall, and continue to climb carefully, knowing a fall could be serious, but they won't pull one another off their feet if they do fall. This allows them to move quickly, avoiding rapid changes in weather for example.
If they decide to continue to be roped together during the more challenging terrain they will belay one another: Basically one person puts in an anchor (ice screws for example driven into the ice) and pulls in the rope as the person below climbs up to them. If the climber falls, the anchor holds their weight and they only fall a couple feet.
This team was in icy conditions, while it had been snow down below. Now, they didn't have the experience to climb unroped or were unwilling to take that risk (being guided, this makes total sense). But they were not belaying one another either. This is likely due to their belief they had managed to climb up without issue at that point, and would slowly make their way down as well. Unfortunately someone did fall, at the worst time, and when you fall on ice you must self-arrest immediately - within 1 second - the first few feet, or you will likely never be able to.
I should also note that while climbing up can be slower, and harder on your cardio system, climbing down in icy conditions is more technically difficult. What happened in this accident is actually a somewhat common way to fall and be injured, or die. Where you are in that difficult situation and think, "if I can only get down another 200 feet or so, I'll be fine..." Only to have someone slip at that point, and not be able to stop.
Awesome comment. Thank you.
If the other guide turned himself and his clients around, then it is likely the conditions were perfectly shitty... And those stupid NW volcanos can get like that... Ice slopes that are perfectly treacherous, too hard to place a picket but not solid enough to place an ice screw... So? What do you do? Some dudes hammer in some of their own home made dog shit...
I remember back in the day that Jim Wickwire would make his own custom anchors for certain sketchy pitches on different routes where standard gear didn't give him peace of mind... He made frozen mud anchors for his Willis Wall climb and I know he did some others... Anyhow, you get the idea.
@@jimvick8397 Good post. Yes, being from Oregon and someone who learned to climb in the Cascades, I'm well aware of the semi-frozen heavy slush.
Met Wick once at a book signing. More affable guy than his own book made him out to be! Still have that signed book around here somewhere...
@@PhilAndersonOutside Addicted to Danger... Still my favorite name for any book...
Thank you for your excellent, detailed explanation! The video mentioned ropes and harnesses, which raised the obvious question of how this could have occurred. An issue it failed to address.
Video producer. Never forget the the basics. Who, What, When and WHY!
RIP Jillian! My dad was a climber and climbed Mt Shasta twice. He always said every mountain is a difficult climb no matter how tall it is. Always respect the mountain.
A sober warning to any mountaineer. Accidents can and do happen. RIP Jillian!💙
Why do you need to comment on itr??
Where don't accidents happen Mary? What is sober? Should I not drive? People are killed on the highway. Should I not fly on an airplane? Some planes crash. Should not I ride my snowboard? People crash into trees or get under and avalanche. Should I hide under my bed?
So true. And doing something over and over again could probably cause a person to take that for granted . And even with best efforts, an accident can occur. Sobering.
Calling mountain climbing a "challenge" is one of the reasons why people take unnecessary risks. Mountains don't challenge you, they don't care if you reach the summit. They don't care if you die trying. Calling it a "challenge" works as a manipulation, making people think it's up to them to resist their fears and caution. It's like calling cautious mountaineers cowards for turning around before bad weather hits them, or for going back down before they summit when it's late in the day.
@@debbie-annsmith6115 totally agree!
Outdoor Disasters always manages to get the most compelling stories! This one is no exception! They always tell the story in the most respectful way possible! This one does that as well Jillian is someone who will be sorely missed by all that knew her! May she rest in peace
I knew Marty Hoey. I worked housekeeping at Snowbird when she was the head of the Ski Patrol. I cleaned her room. She was 10 years older than me. I was in my early 20s and she was in her early 30s. Totally adorable woman. I fell in love with her the first time she smiled at me. She brought down a skier from the side of the mountain once with a compound fracture and a ruptured artery. The guy had hit a tree, hard, and should have died. Marty got a tourniquet on, splinted up the compound fracture, lashed him down like a trussed chicken on a sled and skied him down off the side of the mountain. We all came out to see what was going on when the helicopter landed to take him to the hospital. I watched Marty load him on board. He required a vascular surgeon to repair the ruptured artery, but they they patched him up, set the compound fracture, and he completely recovered. Marty fell off Everest the next year.
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I driven past Mt Shasta so many times. It really is a gorgeous mountain. Hard to take your eyes off it. This massive beautiful mountain off I-5. Sad story. Another great video OD!
It is too bad this happened but when you participate in a sport that can cost you your life with the smallest of mistakes or a fluke of nature happening then this is the result. I’m fascinated by mountain climbers and I read a lot of books, but their death is really their own doing whether it be a mistake they made or a natural cause such as an avalanche. They are the ones that decided to make the attempt.
Well said. I feel the same.
What an insincere and highly uneducated comment !!!
@@adambane1719 not at all, the comments exactly on. It’s easy to say that it’s an educated, but you don’t seem to give me any reasons why your genius self think so.
@@adambane1719 yeah I didn’t think you’d have a response. It’s much easier to call somebody stupid them to actually say why that’s the case isn’t it? That’s when the shoe flips and kicks you in the ass cause if you cant explain then you obviously the highhly an educated one.
If you stay home on the sofa drinking beer and eating buffalo wings and then die of heart disease that too is your own choice and your own doing. Every choice has consequences, even the choice to do nothing.
I climbed Mount Shasta earlier this year, it was quite the climb on saw a massive and striking hulk of a peak. When you approach it from I5, it seems such a huge mountain, and then you get close and realize how truthfully huge the thing is. We thankfully got to the summit and back without incident, but I did have to use my ice axe to stop a couple minor slips on the descent through red banks before it turned into a full arrest. We thankfully had good snow for most of the climb, but I can so very certainly see how a little bad icy snow could turn the section up to red banks into a death trap. Love your videos, keep up the good work!
That's awesome! Have to get to that summit at some point.
Several people have died from being hit by bowling ball sized ice that sometimes coreens down the mountain.
Another awesome video! Its so well researched and narrated and you’re very respectful of the victims and survivors in a tasteful classy way.
I learned more about Mt. Shasta today than I thought I knew. My mind is blown. Love this channel!
Thank you!
Easily became among my favorite channels on TH-cam. Everything is done with so much research and respect to those whom have perished. This channel is pure class!
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Tragic. When the conditions are wrong, people should not try to summit.
Exactly. If they turned back immediately after the storm, they could have survived.
I’m a Redding resident and we still mourn ❤
My deepest sympathy to the family, friends, and colleagues of Jillian. As we have all been learning here on "Outdoor Disasters" no matter how prepared we are, or how much knowledge we have...Natured can not be reckoned with. We can not ever assume, or predict, the unforgiving moods swing that accompany nature no matter when or where. So when we decide to go on these adventures, we should always think about this and be absolutely certain we want to take that risk, because risk is there waiting no matter how ready and prepared we think we are. I'm learning so much here on "Outdoor Disasters" thank you! 💖🌹
Have you ever even climbed up a mountain ??
@@adambane1719 No I have not, but I absolutely admire those that do.
Prayers to their family and friends. Lost a dear friend to Mt. Shasta in late March and this definitely is another reminder that the mountains are always a very dangerous place. Beautifully dangerous.
Sorry for your loss. God bless you in Jesus name amen 🙏
I climbed Mt Shasta in 1984. I was not experienced at all. I didn't go straight up by Avalanche gulch. I veered off and climbed the ridge to the right. Made it that day and what a view. Then I climbed Mt Shasta the next year 1985 with my buddy. We made it to the top together, pushing each other. On our way down we went through the Red Banks rock and slide all the way down to Helen lake. What took us hours to climb up that way, took us about 1 min to get down. You just have to watch out and control your descent with your Ice Axe behind your shoulder. It was so much fun back then. The only thing that you really had to watch out for was falling rocks by other climbers in June.
In the 80’s climbed with my girlfriend off to the right of Avalanche gulch somehow after hours of climbing making it to the top. We both were unexperienced and totally unprepared and ignorant of the climbing dangers. I remember being really scared but elated to make it to the top. The most adventurous part of the hike was hiking back to our car in the middle of the night. We were young, adventurous and oblivious to the real dangers of mountain climbing.
I live 15 min drive away from Mount Shasta. It was chilling to hear of this event when it happened. Now listening to your narration I get chills hearing the familiar names from my childhood in such a context.
Love Mt. Shasta. It’s so beautiful and accessible. One of the better climbs I’ve done. I’ve got Rainier and St. Helens now. What a tragedy for the guide and her future. LOVE the videos, so much!!
Nice, that's a pretty good resume!
What route did u do on shasta?
@@williamkreth - We took Explorers on a three day up Avalanche Gulch… 20 plus years ago. Lol. Man, I’ve gotten old. 😂
You should do a bit on those hikers that fell through a cornice thinking they were on solid ground and fell to their deaths with one person falling behind and stopping dead in her tracks when she saw her friend's tracks disappear...it was on some mountain in British Columbia a few years ago...
If you fall, avoid landing on rocky terrain. Got it.
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Classless response…
Oh, that’s the moral of the story. Good looking out.
This is so informative! Great job, fantastic reporting!🌻🌼🐝 Keep it up 🙌
Thank you for watching my friend!
I love people like Jillian. Awesome life
I had not downhill skied for over 25 years, and then got a chance to ski Shasta in the winter of 19-20, just before Covid. Awesome!
This video is pretty intense. As a NOLS Outdoor Educator, W92 Olympic Mountains, this story is heattbreaking. Mr. Shasta is particularly dear to me. I bow in respect for it's glorious awe. If this could happen to her it can happen to anyone...anyone...anyone. Love to the family and community 💚
I'm not a mountain climber so this question comes from a place of ignorance. Why rope together on such a mountain. Surely, however tragic, it is better to lose one than potentially losing three? Trying to self arrest to hold the weight of three I would assume is virtually impossible for anyone especially on an ice patch. As sad and as tragic as it was, she died doing an extreme sport that she loved. That is of little consolation to those loved ones left behind but she did it because she loved it. RIP x 😢
I looked it up and it seems to be a way to help stop someone from slipping or falling down a steep slope or crevasse. I think it's because it's easier to have multiple people able to stop someone from falling. It seems to be more effective with a group of 3 or more.
From what I researched, climbers are divided on this method
@@outdoordisasters Oh ok, I was just taking a guess and looking it up because I don't mountain climb myself but am curious about it. It seems like there are good arguments on either side of the debate. I'm guessing it comes down to the exact situation the climbers are in.
imo rope teams are great for some areas and situations and not so great for others. When they work they can and generally work well with saving people from falls down steep slopes or into crevasses. It really depends on conditions and the rout though if it's best to ride together or chance it alone on a fall. In my experience it is more common in crevasse country though, and on my climb of Shasta we saw a couple rope teams but us and most others weren't roped in.
@@Touketsuken That's what I guessed, it seems like roping up would be better in areas where crevasses are a significant hazard.
Despite the dangers, it’s so beautiful. My older brother almost got a chance to backpack/hike with his Scout Troop in the area when he was younger, but the trip had to be canceled.
Took a road trip to Vancouver from Los Angeles. Mt Shasta is indeed beautiful. Its quite breath taking driving up to it.
It really is breathtaking.
Your safety tips are are very beneficial to the survivability of people in the outdoors!
Will always keep up to date on your videos my friend
I appreciate that
You started a craze in me Outdoor Disasters! I crave these stories. I found a show on Hulu called Extreme Rescues and to my dismay it only has 6 eps! I just discovered this channel and it is going to take no time to get through these videos. T_T I love you man
That's awesome! I highly suggest watching I Shouldn't Be Alive series. About a 10 year old series. IMO the best survival show of all time with excellent recreations and amazing stories. They're all over youtube and are my main inspiration for starting this channel.
😍😍😍 I shall thank you! You are the best! Time to marathon the rest of your videos until I am out! I been making my family watch these too XD@@outdoordisasters
"HIghly experienced" but didn't even realize the mountain slope under those icy conditions was an unprecedented death slide. Not to say that a deadly fall can't happen in less extreme snow conditions. Maybe it's more accurate to say she was somewhat experienced. Rest in Peace to all of them, they died too soon, though doing something they must have loved.
Only Jillian died, sadly. The couple made it and said they had no regrets climbing, which feels condescending.
Her mountaineering experience is distinct from her business experience. Someone pays for a specific date and that feels more important than climbing fundamentals. Just look at what happens on Everest..
@@mikaross4671thats people nowadays.
What a terrifying tragedy.
I started up from Bunny Flat that afternoon on a solo summit attempt and planning to stay at Horse Camp that night and then continue to Lake Helen the next day. I saw all the EMT personnel in the parking lot but for some reason I assumed they were doing a training exercise. None of them said don't go up and it wasn't posted at the Kiosk to not go up so I went up. On the way I was hearing helicopters but I was still in the trees. Climbers coming down started telling me don't go up its treacherous conditions. I went up to Horse Camp and encountered a few climbers who all said the same thing, don't go up. From Horse Camp I could see helicopters hovering but not what they were doing. Then I decided I better call off the climb.
That was so sad last year. I'm from Mount Shasta. I know the mountain guide's. Never met her, but have seen her in town. Small community.. whenever something like that happens, anywhere in California or Oregon. The ski patrol, mountain guide's ECT. All get together somewhere to pay there respects and support each other
That's awesome. RIP to Jillian
Kinda amazes me how many medical professionals do this hi risk stuff, but thankful. My sister (PhD therapist) was kayaking in a new river with her husband and some friends - 2 of whom were emergency doctors. She got caught under a tree trunk and probably would have died had they not been there
It bothers me that her clients were fine with climbing the mountain, despite the fact their guide died. RIP Jillian.
Agreed. She didn't break any bones. Just a bad head injury.
What an extremely sad and tragic turn of events. I'm guessing just sheer bad luck and a minor misstep cascaded into a deadly situation.
Condolences to those effected by her untimely courages passing ..
I love your videos And content.. You are an exceptional narrator 🧡🙏🏻
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Ive always been an adventurous type, have enjoyed white water rafting and endurance equestrian trail riding, but Mtn. climbing has never interested me in the least. Battling the elements, freezing conditions, and the sheer physical exertion involved in such extreme conditions, nope. I'm all about fun not pushing myself to the brink of death.
RIP Jillian
You are good @ what you do. You continue the good work 👏
I appreciate that
Being roped together was a tragic mistake.
If one person falls everybody falls.
Everyone's fate is dependent on the skills of the weakest climber who is most likely to take a misstep and fall.
It happens so quickly and the forces of the falling climber are too great for the other climbers to react and anchor themselves before they are pulled off the mountain with the falling climber.
Roping together is appropriate for some situations and conditions, but not for the situation and conditions these climbers were in.
Being roped together can give a false sense of security when in fact it puts everyone in greater danger.
This is well-documented in the annals of climbing tragedies.
Definitely. Climbing community seems to be split on this. But reading your comment, makes a ton of sense.
@@outdoordisastersHi. During my 40 years of ski bumming I did some ski mountaineering. But not a real climber by any means.
One day I found out how fast you accelerate when you fall on a very steep icy pitch.
I was skiing a very narrow couloir on Hayden Pk in Utah when I went ass over tea kettle. In the blink of an eye I was going scary fast. By the time I got my skis downhill I was going too fast for them to bite and I was headed straight for the rocks at least 30 mph (it felt like 90) and still accelerating.
What saved my bacon was foresight. I learned how to do a ski pole self arrest long before I thought I'd ever ski anywhere that I'd need it. And then one day I needed it.
I grabbed my right pole above the basket with my left hand and drove it into the icy snow with my left hip and right hand using all my weight. It worked like a charm and I stopped right before the rocks.
I stood up without a scratch and grinned at my friends. Their looks of horror instantly turned into big smiles. They were expecting the worst.
That was in the mid-80s before helmets we're a thing. Without the self arrest technique I would have hit the rocks going about 50. I would have definitely gotten some dents that wouldn't buff out. :)
The moral of the story is, if you're engaged in hazardous outdoor activities, expect the unexpected and prepare for it. You owe it to your loved ones even if you don't care about yourself.
Cheers
I climbed Shasta same route but over to left more. No ropes just a ice axe and crampons and helmet it is easy. Ropes don't do much without snow pickets or ice screw anchors in big falls it just makes sure everyone that falls gets smoked. Also guided Denali twice. Clients will kill you if your not very careful.
Should have turned around that day.
I've been on many mountains for work , packing and logging, people as a rule don't realize in general, there are no immediate medical services, no immediate removal of any injured, so it's risky at best for novices, and anything can happen to anyone
a expert climber said it was not a good day to climb. but city wealthy people during pandemic want to learn new sports and think they can pay and spend a weekend climber. some get upset if the conditions arent right and they took time off work. the expert said you have to look at the conditions. not even expert climbers can do this trek easily. and there is no room
for mistakes. i am a city person. i am not delusional. i will not harm myself or anyone else. i am
only a weekend adventurer but i will not climb ice mountains. i dont know anything about ice.
God bless the folks that like these extreme sports, though not for me. I will enjoy the pictures and drone footage.
Stop, drop and roll!!
2000 feet. I cant believe how tall mountains are its amazing and insane all at once.
I am no climber but am enamored by others desire for the experience. Am I correct in saying that it used to be that anyone who climbed with a guide had to have decent climbing experience prior to any climb? The 1996 Everest climbing disaster the Krakauer detailed this. RIP Jillian
Cannot fathom the idiot clients said they didn’t regret their climb…
I'd love to leave comments. About your great channel. But I catch your videos on my smart TV. In the evening. There very entertaining I must say!!
You rock!
Advice appreciated...
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I've climbed Shasta and it's an exhilarating experience. The summit is fairly easy to reach, but the drop on the back of the summit is pretty dramatic. I guess when I climbed the snow was soft in avalanche gulch because it's hard to me see not being able to arrest. I actually glacaded down this corridor with ice axe in hand no problem. Also personally I have a leash on my ice axe. My guide told me "the ice axe is your friend" - more than that, it's a lifesaver!
damn. RIP lady 🙏
You know what? I’d prefer to get that sense of accomplishment from getting an “A” on my trigonometry final!!!!!
Ouuuuuu, the lure, the pure lure of Mt. Shasta! It is so worth dying for. Just the thought of living hand to mouth, and then dying during the climb brings me to well, you know 😊😊😊😊Yea! Count me in!
Mt Shasta is so beautiful.
It really is. It's incredible.
For novices you only climb Mount Shasta in September. This is well-known by anybody that lives in Siskiyou County or grew up there.
The forest around the mountain are really creepy and I'm not sure why
Well written accurate and interesting video
1:36 Only it didn’t erupt 200 years ago ( 1:36 )
Evidence suggests that magma most recently erupted at the surface about 3,200 years ago.
www.usgs.gov › mount-shasta
Also a little hard to agree it’s “by far the most stunning”, for reals, Mt Whitney is mind boggling from the Alabama Hills. Shasta is incredibly Incredibly stunning though, I’d put it equal to Whitney in that “contest”.
I've seen a ranger go up the trail on Bunny Flat like a missile. Fast was not the word. Look up and live, watch for Rockfalls, ice. Always be
Alert. I've been up to Lake Helen. Watch for edema, headaches.
There are big mountains and there are pretty mountains . This one is pretty.
I don't understand why a group of climbers would attach all of the group to a single line that is not attached to anything else. I've heard of a lot of similar tragic accidents. Also, an experienced guide should be someone with dozens of climbs on the mountain they're guiding under different conditions.
Feels like you missed an opportunity when you titled it. “Disasta on Mt. Shasta” 😎
Thank you for the laugh 😂
what happens when you get to the top?
You've reached the half way marker.
@@StevePastor50 so you spend weeks acclimating and climbing in a tent in freezing weather just to turn around and come down? And people drop like 50k...worst vacation ever lol
Sometimes in the life, the best trained, most experienced, most skilled people in a group can perish. As humans, we often look to blame circumstances or people for fatal incidents. We all have an expiration date and we don't know when it is. Only the Lord knows when you are going to be called before him. As usual, great survival tips and you are saving lives through these videos
Like going going on the Titan submersible there's not a great margin for error
Narrated by Leonard Nimoy, impressive most impressive.
sounds like golf!
There’s a thousand different ways to die climbing a mountain! Even expert climbing Sherpa’s in the Himalayas die in tragic ways. It’s Russian Roulette!
Sounds like hardly a climbing accident when we're talking about inexperienced climbers😂
I’ve never climbed any mountain more than probably 1300’ elevation which is basically a pimple compared to these real mountains. For me it’s just for a great workout and a few hour round trip. I suppose some people are just wired for stuff like this and death is most definitely gonna inevitably be one of the outcomes. I do however cycle road and on some decents speeds of 50+ mph are hit. While exhilarating, I realize disaster can happen at any moment but I love the sport and am ok with the risk. I can relate to the passion. RIP.
exactly
She never spent a day alone did she?
The only thing for granted in life is death.
Cool monotone. Are you just reading from a book or a script?
i dont care for any icy mountain climbing. i also dont mess w ice.
10:05 That never works out anyway. You can't just flip entire lifestyles.
I've known maybe 30 people who have done that and every one has ended in a pretty ugly divorce.
It's like a nerd deciding one day that he's gonna be a player, or a player deciding he wants to be a nerd. It's just too different, those neural paths are set.
Who the hell climbs it in a sheet of freezing rain? We have to make better decisions
11:29 mentions everything but beacons?
Connecting each other with rope, no thank you, to me that seams pointless, one goes and all go, doesn't make sense. People underestimate weather and possibly bad conditions, you can't just assume it's going to be a certain way, sosny variables.
Really? You can see the Milky Way from there?? I mean yeah but not the breathtaking view you have from the southern hemisphere.
100% respect for the mountain or use the brain God gave you!!!
Oh that mindfulness were a panacea. Cheers to all fellow risk takers!
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Me and a few friends climbed Mt Shasta in 1996. It was not all that hard.
I never have my axes w/o them strapped to my wrists(s)-
Ice is slippery and dangerous
Who knew
Climbing is unparalleled..😂😂
OOPS!! LOL.
Boy that guy's really simping hard for that stupid Mountain
For sure lol
I'm guessing you didn't have information about him, but we didn't hear anything at the end about the boyfriend she was moving in with. He had the toughest loss, in my opinion.
None unfortunately. Even the couple involved remained anonymous
If they didn't regret it it is mostly because of their head trauma
MOUNT SHASTA...???? THERE ARE PLACES IN THIS WORLD PEOPLE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE...SHASTA IS ONE OF THOSE PLACES....AS IN THE PARANORMAL IS THERE ..!!!
Blame the ice!? At least she died doing what she loved....
She loved falling off a mountain and dying??
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If you're a woman you have eight men helping you. You don't have anything to fear.
I do not like mountain climbers. That's so stupid. Why are they doing this?
I can't feel sorry for any of them. They chose to climb a Mountain for whatever reason. I will give some respect to the rescuers though. I'll never understand the "life is so awful, must climb dangerous mountain to feel good"..To each his own I suppose, but no sympathy
I hope you find the saving grace in Jesus Christ. He can help you with sympathy in this case and every other one that is challenging for our hearts ❤️
Mt Shasta is not normally that dangerous for well prepared climbers. If you or a family member were pursuing a recreational activity such as water skiing or motorcycling and a fatal accident happened I would think it would be okay and a reasonable thing to express sympathy.
Is this Morgan Freeman’s voice??
I've heard many others as well lol
@@outdoordisasters i really like the tone of your voice. it reminds me of voice overs i've heard in my childhood, in the '70s. your "read" is very good, serious and respectful.
Obviously not
Barack Obama😊
Sort of like Leonard Nimoy…but of better quality.