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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Hello guys! Since I have these two, why don't we have a head to head comparison shall we?
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Both the Ray 2 and the Kamasu have the same F6922 movement, something that should have been mentioned earlier in this review. So, same movement, same bracelet quality, lume about equal. Kamasu has a sapphire crystal and easier to turn bezel. IMO, the price difference between the two divers is not justified. Yes, the Kamasu should cost somewhat more, but not as much more as it does than the Ray 2.
I agree with you. But ever since I made this video, the price of the Orient Kamasu has dropped. So it is a more compelling option now. Thanks for watching 💪
I have a Kamasu. Love it! I did buy mine used, so I saved a bunch. Yes, the lume is crazy good! Keep it up NM!
Thanks for the support man!
where did you buy the used one?
Thanks for the comparison, very good. The ray ii was the best value watch I ever owned miss it a little so will certainty buy the kamasu the crown was a total pain and the mineral crystal was easy to scratch so very happy to give another €80 or so for an improvement. Both great watches though which ever you get you will love it, most practical too. Better quality than most Seiko's I have in this range.
Ever since I've made this review, the price of the Orient Kamasu have been going down to about USD250. Maybe I'll add it to my collection soon. Thanks for watching man!
I like both. I have to say that the blue dial on the ray 2 is gorgeous! Several reviewers have mentioned the small and difficult to use crown on the ray 2, some even say it feels "fragile" which makes me feel somewhat uneasy about it.
Good review, I learned a lot about each watch. I really like the Orient brand I must say. I wish they were both made entirely in Japan though.
I've made another video after this one reviewing the Ray 2 in orange colour. It seems like they have improved the crown grip and the bezel grip. So if you don't really need the sapphire crystal, then the cheaper option would be the Ray 2 or Mako 2. But if that sapphire makes the difference, the Kamasu or latest Kamasu version is the better watch. Thanks for watching 😎
Its heavy and small but not too bad.
When you said "concave" and "convex" I gave you a "like" instantly. Great review, very helpful!!!
Hey man. Thanks for the like. I've never thought it would be that helpful. Anyways, thanks for watching 💪
Another great video!! love your happy cheerful spirit!!!
Thanks so much!! Please check my other videos as well. Thanks for watching 😎
I watched numerous videos and comparison of all orient divers and kinda set on buying kamasu cos of the sapphire glass, modern looking marker, oyster bracelet etc. Really set. Or so i thought. When i see them in person next to each other the Ray just shines different. Really stood out. And i went back home with a ray instead 😎
For me, the price of the Ray makes the decision a lot easier. Thanks for watching bro
@@NMwatch where i am, the price difference is negligable so its purely aesthetic preference.
First time I watched one of your videos and you did a great job. One of my favorites. Love the accent. I just subscribed. I was wanting to get a kamasu but have heard alot of complaints about the crown being to wobbly when pulled all the way out. Is this true ?
Wobbly crown? I've handled quite a lot of Orient but never found such issue. I'd say go for the Kamasu if you can find it for less than USD250. That's the price point that I'm willing to pay for it. Thanks for watching!
I have both of them. Bezel in Ray II is stiffer, but ZERO movement back. Yes in Kamasu is "gripp'ier". But moves back one step freely!!! Secondly, what is a downgrade in Kamasu and I dont'like (and I have a Limited Edition Kamasu) is that the seconds marking are just painted on the flat surface of dial. And on Ray II they are painted on a 45 degrees rim- so they are better visible even from one meter. And the seconds markings are barely visible in general, especially arond 12 to 15 Oclock in Kamasu. I dont know why Orient did this step back.
Yup. Those are some details that I started to find with the latest Kamasu. Cost cutting measures maybe? Anyways, thanks for watching 😎
if i were in the market for a red / burgundy dial, i'd definitely consider that kamasu variant.
Yup. Totally agreed. Still a great value for money watch even in 2023. Thanks for watching 😎
I have them both, ray II black with oyster bracelet and Kamasu blue dial with black strap... ❤️
Oh my. What an interesting proposition 🤔. I am thinking of getting this red one now that the price has dropped to about USD250, and this time it will be part of my collection. hmmm... Decisions, decisions. Anyways, thanks for watching man 👍
I got the Red Kamasu and the watch is amazing. So so beautifull but only problem that i have with it is the crown screwing in its hard. Did you find crown screwing on Ray 2 the same or worst? Cuz i think to pick Mako 2 blue. Cheers!
Hey man. Generally, the Kamasu crown & bezel is an improvement over the more difficult to screw in crown and bezel of the Mako/Ray 2. So, if you went ahead and buy an older or used Mako 2, it's going to be a huge pain in the ass. But if you buy new Makos/Rays, they've used the crown/bezel that was used on the Kamasu. You can check my Orient Ray 2 Orange review and it that video, I clearly pointed the difference between the old vs new. Thanks for watching bro
@@NMwatch ooo i asked in one group even this question and nobody answer, if older models have different crown than new models on Mako/Ray because i notice difference from pics. Thanks for clarifying this for me bro apreciate it a lot!
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@@Visitor555 Please take a look at my Orange Ray 2 video review, and you will see a few small differences between the latest Ray 2 vs the older Ray 2.
@@NMwatch yes i check it
amazing video!
i have a black orient kamasu. amazing watch and I love it so much.
the only one thing that I hate about this watch is the aluminum bezel insert which is very very easy to be scratched!
i wish there will be a ceramic mod for orient kamasu bezel insert
I think Mark from Long Island watches have a ceramic bezel insert for these. Go check'em out. Thanks for watching!
The bracelets are different. The Kamasu has 4 micro adjustments and the Mako/Ray have 3. The bracelet of my Mako II does fit my Kamasu....I love the Kamasu over my Ray and Mako
I didn't know that the Mako bracelet could fit into the Kamasu. Anyway, thanks for the information.
R. R. I love my Kamasu even over my Mako USA2👍
Good review Bro! Subscribed. Can't wait to see what you get next.
Thanks for the subscription man. Lots more coming soon😎
Please, could you make a comparison of Orient Kamasu vs orient RA-AC0K ?
Hey man. Since I don't own both watches that you mentioned, it might take a while. I'll ask around. Thanks for watching bro 👍
Orient Ray 2 for these reason:
1. more aftermarket bracelet choices which taper to 18mm and solid end links. Ie. strapcode.
2. can pop in a sapphire crystal on the ray 2 for AUD $60, still cheaper than the Kamsu is selling for. I've done this myself and it transforms the Ray 2, to a very nice watch.
3. personally i prefer the cleaner design and not a fan of the seconds markers being halfway overlapped by the indices. Looks like a messy design to me. Wish they had not done that, looks unusual.
i do prefer the bezel shape on the kamasu though...
Right on mate. I wish the Ray 2 has that bezel. It feels a whole lot better. Thanks for watching!
@@NMwatch can always pop a coin edge bezel or something else on this. the ray is sooo easy to mod, the bezel just pops off if you place in the right spot
@@MarcraM82 I haven't got into the mod bug yet. Maybe I will. Until that happens, I'll stick to my stock bezel. Thanks for watching man!
@@NMwatch it's very easy with the ray, all tutorials I've learnt from TH-cam.
Have you found those after market bracelets yet ? If so people post the link , Thanks
I am thinking about buying one.
Where did you get the watch band?
Hey man. The black one is from cheapestnatostrap.com and the blue is from strapsco.com. But the black is a lint magnet although it is cheap and the blue is too stiff and more expensive. I've found another version of these tropical style straps on AliExpress which cost around USD9, super soft and not a lint magnet. I'll give a link on my review about them. Thanks for watching 👍
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Hi. Very nice and detail review.
Where did you get that blue strap? Is that a rubber or animal skin?
Hey man. I think it's a blue epsom leather strap from nomadwatchworks.com, thanks for watching 😎
@@NMwatch Thanks a lot for taking time to reply.
"This crown is, A PAIN IN THE BUTT!" LOL
Yes it was and still is a pain in the butt to screw in🤣
Kamasu for me but for me if anyone have the budget and wrist size go for the OSD used or new if you find one.It is well build and nothing been spare in terms of quality.
Great choice my man. OSD? That thing is way too big for my wrist. But if I do get the chance to review one, I'll definitely enjoy it. Thanks for watching.
Just bought a Ray 2 but based on videos I've watched it seems it is prone to scratches.. is there any screen protectors I can use?
Haven't found yet if there's any. I'd go for the Kamasu though. You just can't beat Sapphire crystal. Thanks for watching 😎
Quality wise. Macro level. Do you think the Kamasu has better/higher level finishing on indices/markers/hands?
Yup. I think so. Especially with applied indices, they look far better compared to the Ray 2. Thanks for watching!
Orient Triton is worth the extra $100, Saphire Crystal, AR coating, Upgraded movement, Power Reserve indicator and solid end links.
I haven't got my hands on the Orient Triton just yet. For 100 bucks more, it might be a bargain but I'm not really into it's design. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion man.
Is it possible for the Ray 2 bracelet to fit the Kamasu?
Cuz I bought an after market bracelet online which fits the Ray 2 perfectly but not so sure about the Kamasu.
Nope. They are not compatible, unfortunately. Thanks for watching 👍
Dear sir ,to me, the blue wins. It has a more clean looking sun burst effect. Liked your review. Have subscribed dear
Hey, thanks for the subscribe man.
@@NMwatch welcome sir. I like your simplicity and grace during review. U seem very humble by the grace of Allah ♥
@@sarmadmunir3895 Syukran for the compliments brother.
I got the black kamasu.RM1065 inc shipping. The thing that i dislikes is the bracelet have no solid end links and does not tapered. The clasp is too long. Currently waiting new elastic strap from aliexpress.
Cool! Yeah I have to agree that the clasp is too long. Enjoy wearing it with your new elastic straps though. It's worth it. Thanks for watching!
What is the model number of the blue Seiko, number three in your intro? It is beautiful!
It's a Seiko SARG015. A long discontinued JDM model. It's a bit bigger at 42mm though.
Is the kamasu crown easier to turn on my ray 2 I find it quite difficult because of its size on my kano it is much easier being a larger crown.
It just slightly better. Not as good as other watches I've handled before. Thanks for watching bro 😎
I'm new into watches and don't know what's a solid end link is and why is it better than a hollow one can you please explain me this?
Hello there. A solid end link is when the link that meets the case is made of a full metal link, not a hollow piece. You can check out my video on the NTH Sub Barracuda to see how they look like. It's better compared to the hollow ones, because if you use the watch just on the bracelet for a longer period of time, they will somehow bent in/out and doesn't match the case anymore. Maybe you can look at vintage watches videos/pictures to see what I mean. Thanks for watching!
How is the scratch resistant of Ray 2? And time keeping? Thanks. From Singapore. 😁
You mean the crystal? It's actually a bit weaker compared to the hardlex crystal on Seiko. I've scratched mine after a few months. If you're worried about scratches, the Kamasu is the better choice. Thanks for watching, Mr. Neighbor 🤣
@@NMwatch I see. I feel kamasu face is uglier than Ray ii. I am not really sure which part though. Thanks.
Great video as always! Do you find the kamasu wears bigger compared to the ray 2?
Nope. Not at all. It wears exactly like the Ray 2. Thanks for watching!
@@NMwatch I prefer the ray 2. Reason being is I don't like how the seconds marker are touching the applied indices. I wish they would of pushed the indices over them. The design because of this small issue looks a bit messy to me. I think the ray 2 with its minimal face and applied indices looks better.
@@MarcraM82 I've never really noticed that when I had the watch. Thanks for highlighting it.
@@NMwatch i noticed it immediately because ive never seen a similar design! Just feels like its too squashed in to me. I like the Kamasu, but i just cant't get past that. Did you sell yours? keep the Ray instead?
@@MarcraM82 Actually I borrowed the Kamasu from another friend for review. Yes, I'm still keeping my Ray 2.
I have the ray 2 and the kamasu which i purchased it a couple of days ago.kamasu is a better watch to me
Yup. It is the better watch. If I don't have the Ray 2 yet, I would have gone for it as well. Thanks for watching man!
Richard Lu unfortunately, the ray ii is more attractive than the kamasu
Terima kasih tuan. Comparison yg sgt membantu. Saya rasa kamasu lagi value for money sbb dpt saphire crystal dan bagi saya yg warna hijau cantik. Ray 2 dial bulat dia cantik tapi tulah xdpt saphire crystal. Lepas ni tuan boleh x buat comparison antara orient bambino v2 vs v3?
Assalamualaikum tuan. Masa saya buat video ni, harga Orient Kamasu masih lebih kurang RM1200. Tapi skrg dah lebih kurang RM1K je, so memang berbaloi la skrg ni kalau compare dgn Orient Ray 2. Pasal Orient Bambino tu, kalau saya jumpa owner yg ada kedua-dua version, maybe saya akan pinjam la😅
Did orient ray bracelet fit on kamasu? I was thinking to buy Ray bracelet for kamasu.... Not sure if it fit
Nope. It won't fit. Mark from Long Island watches made a video about this. I think you'd better get it from Strapcode.com
Thanks for watching 👍
Nice review Sir! Few years ago, Kamashu, was bang for buck.. I have 2..
I also have many Seikos and citizens...below USD 500 and acceptable whatever they offered..
Now with San Martin, Sugess, Seastern, Proxima etc how can I not divert...😅
Well, same situation here. LOL! Thanks for watching 😎
At 0:03 what seiko is that?
That is the Seiko Monster 2nd Gen SRP313K1. I have done a full review of this watch quite some time ago. Please checkout my video archives. Thanks for watching
Hello! What online shop do you recommend for international shipping?
It depends on where you live bro. I'm in Malaysia, so my online store of choice is Lazada or Shopee. If international, AliExpress is not bad, but recently due to Covid-19, they're shipping sucks. Thanks for watching
very helpful review and comparison. The problem and grib on Ray 2 is really a problem.
Yup. They really are that cumbersome.
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Which one would you say wears smaller?
I don't think there's any difference at all in that department. Thanks for watching
What is the name of the watch on your wrist?
It's the Seiko 5 SNKE57. Thanks for watching bro 👍
Where did you get the nice rubber straps?
The black tropical style strap is from cheapestnatostraps.com and the blue one is from strapsco.com. thanks for watching man!
is kamasu the same thing as mako?
Nope. The Mako and the Ray featured here is basically the same watch with a different dial layout. The dial, case and crown of the Kamasu is different compared to the Ray/Mako. Thanks for watching 👍
Which one do you think goes better with a suit in black dial?
Both the Mako/Ray 2 or the Kamasu black dials are not that interesting to look at. So I'll go for the cheaper one. The Ray 2.
You got a good taste!
Thanks man!
Are the bezels interchangeable on these two models?
Good question Matt. I've never seen anyone did it yet, but I'll check around. Thanks for watching!
hello. if i buy a miltat bracelet for kamasu.. would it fit my ray 2? please let me know
Hey man. As far as I know, they don't fit. I think Mark from Long Island watches made a video about this quite a long time ago. Thanks for watching 😎
Ray2 is very nice 😁
Yes it is. Thanks for watching!
what are the straps my good dude?
The black one: www.cheapestnatostraps.com and the blue one: www.strapsco.com
Thanks for watching man 💪
Hello, dove posso trovare il cinturino Tropic Blue per il Ray 2 . Thankyou. Attilio
Hello. I'm sorry but I don't speak your language. Is it about where I got the blue strap on the Orient Ray 2?
@@NMwatch Yes. If you write me the address.I have the same. Thanks. Attilio
@@kameizender2747 strapsco.com/?aff=5
Tank you, amico!
@@kameizender2747 Thanks for watching amigo!
Dekat shopee macam komasu tengah lagi murah je 😄
Yup. Sambar je la. Apa lagi🤣😎
Muy buena reseña amigo, pero su inglés tiene un nivel de mierda, tuve que volver a escuchar algunas partes.
Sorry amigo. I only understand "Muy Buena". Gracias amigo