Princess Diana & Winston Churchill Family Tree

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  • @UsefulCharts
    @UsefulCharts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +903

    Corrections:
    - William will be the first British monarch since Queen Anne to descend from Charles I, not the first "Stuart-descended" king. (All British monarchs from George I on descend from James I).
    - The current Earl Spencer is named Charles, not John.

    • @legocountyfan
      @legocountyfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      would've been nice to see Sir Nicholas Soames on the chart

    • @topsecret8045
      @topsecret8045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Make a video on tamill..u will get many ans.for many questions

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Could you at least include the wives of the people here. I would like to see other siblings that the heirs or people you are focusing on but I understand it would get messy. But the family trees without wives look odd and we could see more interesting connections from those, now only some are included.

    • @kai_johnsonn
      @kai_johnsonn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Wait, aren't all the current monarchs still descended from William The Conqueror? Meaning that they are also all descended from Charles I?

    • @VeracityLH
      @VeracityLH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well, Charles I was a Stuart, so you were right. And as you said, not through the line that the Jacobites count. Also, All monarchs from 1603 descend from James I, as even William III was a grandson of James I through his mother, Mary Stuart, and the Cromwells were officially not monarchs.

  • @sm_mikhailovna5126
    @sm_mikhailovna5126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +664

    I also realised that Winston Churchill's mother (Jennie Jerome) was one of King Edward VII's mistresses.

    • @kate_cooper
      @kate_cooper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      To be fair, being a mistress of Edward VII was no rare thing among socialites of the time.

    • @sm_mikhailovna5126
      @sm_mikhailovna5126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

      @@kate_cooper You do have a point. Even Camila's great-grandmother was also one of his mistresses.

    • @kate_cooper
      @kate_cooper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@sm_mikhailovna5126 Yep. Alice Keppel.

    • @marcusq4807
      @marcusq4807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      There could be a chance that Winston Churchill is an illegitimate son of Edward VII

    • @BillGreenAZ
      @BillGreenAZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@marcusq4807 Yep. Just like Barbara Bush is the illegitimate daughter of Aleister Crowley and Prince Harry is the illegitimate son of Diana's riding instructor, James Hewitt.

  • @Ianmsolis
    @Ianmsolis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1833

    You could do Kate Middleton and how she's related to Mary Boleyn please

    • @MrRaazi
      @MrRaazi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Good answer

    • @bushra5956
      @bushra5956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      This one sounds interesting, Their son George will be King with 3 previous connection of his own family

    • @ltyrell75
      @ltyrell75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +172

      And if Mary Boleyn children were really fathered by Henry VIII that will mean Queen Elizabeth and Princess Margaret and their children are the only royal descendant of Henry VIII

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@ltyrell75 The Queen mother was also descended from Mary Boylen

    • @ltyrell75
      @ltyrell75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@pedanticradiator1491 Well that's amazing and something to explore as Elizabeth II can be a descendant of Henry VIII

  • @mackiemae2002
    @mackiemae2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +530

    I remember reading somewhere that Princess Diana and Winston Churchill were related somehow, nice to see the family tree and how they're connected. Great video and congrats on 700K subscribers!

    • @barbp2768
      @barbp2768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      They’re related to George Washington, also. Princess Diana’s brother has a nice, interesting video on the Spencer family and their history.

    • @EintagsFliegenTV
      @EintagsFliegenTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Donald trump is Cousin. Same is Joe Biden. Kamala Harris is also Habsburger. One big family. Antichrist family

    • @kreeperfrm559
      @kreeperfrm559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@EintagsFliegenTV 13 bloodlines

    • @EintagsFliegenTV
      @EintagsFliegenTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kreeperfrm559 its only one huge bloodline

    • @kreeperfrm559
      @kreeperfrm559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EintagsFliegenTV 13 bloodlines of the illuminati

  • @Emmit1010
    @Emmit1010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1366

    They say the Spencer family was actually more Royal then the Windsor's.

    • @EyreAffair
      @EyreAffair 3 ปีที่แล้ว +365

      Which is why Queen Elizabeth II encouraged Prince Charles to marry a Spencer woman, either Lady Sarah, Diana's older sister, or Lady Diana. Charles married Lady Diana, and their son, Prince William, carries both Stuart blood in him from the deposed monarchy, as well as Windsor blood, uniting the two claims. It's similar to the united houses of York and Lancaster through Henry Tudor's marriage to Elizabeth of York, producing King Henry VIII of England.

    • @barbp2768
      @barbp2768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I like your comment being that my birth name is Spencer, although I live in New England, USA.

    • @shahrulamar5358
      @shahrulamar5358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      @@EyreAffair the Spencer has more English blood than the Windsor .

    • @untruelie2640
      @untruelie2640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      What do you mean when you say "royal"? The Spencers only have a british royal connection through two illegitimate Stuart lines while the Windsors are descendants of a legitimate line. They are also related to many european noble dynasties (like the Houses of Welf, Hohenzollern and Mecklenburg or the royal House of Denmark), all of which are way older than the Spencer or Churchill families. The House of Wettin itself (to which Queen Elizabeth technically belongs) can trace it origins back to the 10th century. Margrave Frederick I. of Meissen, a direct male-line ancestor of the Queen, was the grandson of Emperor Frederick II., so the Wettins can even claim to be the rightful heirs to the House of Hohenstaufen as well as to the previous imperial dynasties (the Salians and Ottonians).

    • @untruelie2640
      @untruelie2640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@shahrulamar5358 The Queen Mother was a member of the Bowes-Lyon family and a descendant of various scottish, english snd even irish noble dynasties. Isn't that british enough?

  • @donna25871
    @donna25871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +331

    Great video - however the name of Diana’s living brother is Charles (the current Earl). John died shortly after his birth.

    • @CallieMasters5000
      @CallieMasters5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Don't know how he got this wrong.

    • @MrDannyDetail
      @MrDannyDetail 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Also William won't be the first Stuart descended monarch since the 1700s, as all monarchs since that time have been descended from James VI and I via his daughter Elisabeth. William will however be the first monarch since then to be a descendant of Charles I, Charles II and James II.

    • @twahaalim5712
      @twahaalim5712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MrDannyDetail I get Charles I and II, but how James II?

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@twahaalim5712 Diana was descended from illegitimate children of both Charles II and James II who were both sons of Charles I

    • @MysteryHendrik
      @MysteryHendrik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@pedanticradiator1491 Interestingly, James II’s mistress who Diana is descended from was Arabella Churchill, the sister of John Churchill.

  • @Slaubzzz
    @Slaubzzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    If you’ve seen the movie The Duchess, it’s about the daughter of John Spencer, 1st Earl Spencer who is played by Keira Knightly. Like another famous Spencer woman, she had three people in her marriage 👀

  • @Palaa94
    @Palaa94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +446

    I also knew that one of Lady Diana's most famous ancestors is Lady Georgiana Cavendish. I love their similarities.

    • @Palaa94
      @Palaa94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Lisa Mathis omg which one? 😍

    • @sambandure9376
      @sambandure9376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ladia Georgiana Cavendish is the great great grandmother of the Duchess of York Sarah Ferguson

    • @cha2117
      @cha2117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Search for Chatsworth House and there's a documentary on her.

    • @lilyofthevalley5586
      @lilyofthevalley5586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And John Wilmot! ( The Libertine)

    • @wvanderwahl
      @wvanderwahl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes and thank you for that. She was Duchess of Devonshire whose grand daughter Stella Tennant left us not too long ago sadly. Diana descends from a more illustrious English background than many others mentioned here.

  • @harouns.4280
    @harouns.4280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    can you imagine knowing all these relations of generatios about your family? so freaking fascinanting!

    • @maryfrump7937
      @maryfrump7937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've been on my search thinking we came from poor farmers. I was very surprised to find I was very wrong.

    • @Draugtaur
      @Draugtaur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i can actually. my family is very peasant, and even then i managed to trace some lines to late 17th century
      genealogy is fun

    • @thisasiankidistrashfordram374
      @thisasiankidistrashfordram374 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many people from cultures that practice some form of ancestor worship can do that. We don't have to be part of the elite to do so. Families in said cultures often keep written records or detailed oral traditions of the family tree that keeps accumulating with each generation and gets passed down.
      In some countries/areas (whose civilizations are thousands of years old), Family registries are incredibly important government documents that act as social security. Even poor working class can trace their ancestors and family origins back to regional tribes and clans that they branched off from.

    • @junechrisman3407
      @junechrisman3407 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can trace my family to Robert the Bruce, the first king of Scotland.

    • @yourfavorite7518
      @yourfavorite7518 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thisasiankidistrashfordram374what if your parents are from two different countries? Mexico and Honduras. Which are heavily populated with indigenous blood.

  • @themaskedbard3432
    @themaskedbard3432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Wait, every monarch since 1701 is a Stuart descendant. William III was the son of James II's sister, while Mary II and Queen Anne were his daughters. Then, all the Hannoverians (and therefore the windsor) are descendants of Elizabeth Stuart, daughter of James I, that's how they got their claim on the British throne.

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Yeah, you're right. We meant "Charles I" descendant.

    • @EintagsFliegenTV
      @EintagsFliegenTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Merowinger

    • @ladylove9303
      @ladylove9303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I watched a documentary yesterday about the two Prince in the tower of London who definitely died in the tower and dispose by someone who really want to take over the crown the suspect or the main culprit is their uncle Richard lll act as Lord Protector of Edward V because he was only 12 Years old and too young to be King , but more historian somehow convince that is not their uncle Richard lll who order to killed her two nephews the Princes in the Tower they said that the Tudors Henry Vll Elizabeth l uncle has more motive than Richard lll because the Tudors are determined to snatched the crown from the Plantagenet when Richard lll died in the battlefield his remains were excavated in the Parking lot in 2012 then Henry Vll Tudor became king of England but Edward lV and Richard lll had a younger brother name George Plantagenet which at the time is the rightful Heir to be King of England and George Plantagenet descendants is a British Farmer who had lived in Australia name Michael Hastings died in 2012 there's a documentary the real monarchs and They was able to interview Hasting and Hasting was aware that he's a descendants of the Plantagenet but had no plan to claim , so all of the Tudors got into power because they are all murdered the Plantagenet including the last known woman who also came from Plantagenet line was been executed order by Henry Vlll because she was a threat and people knew at the time that they are the rightful Heir. I was really fascinated yesterday about the two Prince in the tower of London and I think they should really examine the bones that they excavated in the tower of London to see if those belong to young Princes.

  • @marshhen
    @marshhen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    It is ironic just how aristocratic Diana was. This was downplayed at the time of their marriage, both because she had no title but also because she is effectively more of a blueblood aristocrat from a long and illustrious family than Charles is. Charles is from an effectively German family.

    • @binder946
      @binder946 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Her family was not aristocratic based on blue blood in the true sense of the world.
      .but on account of having affairs and illegimate children in the line.
      Windsor are German and considered royal. But they also have illigitimate children way back. According to some documentary on yt real king of UK lives in Australia on a ranch.
      On account of his blood line.

    • @Austin8thGenTexan
      @Austin8thGenTexan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very true. Being a noble is a constant. Royal dynasties come and go. They treated Diana much as the press treated Jimmy Carter - and labeled him a "peanut farmer". I seem to remember the press characterizing Ronald Reagan as a lifeguard - not a former Democrat and president of a trade union. Funny how all this works... 🤷‍♂️

    • @juandavidrestrepoduran6007
      @juandavidrestrepoduran6007 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@binder946that’s just an “if theory about who would be king if the Tudors hadn’t won a war, that’s it.
      Also, it goes a long way between being descended from untitled to titled nobility, to royalty (most noble of all).

    • @keetahbrough
      @keetahbrough ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I"m indigenous, from Canada. I was a child, when she became Princess. It was NEVER played down, her aristocracy. BECAUSE I KNEW ABOUT IT. Even her virginity was discussed, publicly, on TV. How could I know about her lineage, her virginity, as a child, without her lineage being crowed about, examined, vetted as approval worthy. Charles didn't pick Diana. THE FIRM DID. And they definitely knew what they were getting from her,. when they chose her to become the DNA for their FIRM. To be their brood mare. All ya'll, are trying to change history.

    • @Oughut88
      @Oughut88 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Her title before marriage was Lady Diana Spencer and there was no ‘playing down’. Anyone who cared about such things knew exactly what her lineage was. She was born in Park House on Sandringham Estate and her father, Johnny, was equerry to the Queen for goodness sake.

  • @taraa5482
    @taraa5482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    there was also Lady Georgiana Spencer, Keira Knightley acted as Georgiana in movie The Duchess. She was the great-great-great-great aunt of Diana

    • @percyweasley9301
      @percyweasley9301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Anonymus X Yeah watch it if you can, you will be surprised from the story.

    • @sambandure9376
      @sambandure9376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lady Georgiana Spencer is also the great great great grandmother of the Duchess of York Sarah Ferguson.

    • @annebelgard6723
      @annebelgard6723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She married the Duke of Devonshire ( Chatsworth) and one of the descendants married Kathleen Kennedy ( JF Kennedy's sister who died in plane crash)

  • @bushra5956
    @bushra5956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Most of the Useful Charts viewers are already subscriber of Lindsay Holiday I guess :-D

    • @davicbertiz6977
      @davicbertiz6977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yes, that's true for me. Useful charts for blood connection and Lindsay for information.

    • @lucinae8512
      @lucinae8512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, but now I will!

    • @medmedmed333
      @medmedmed333 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ooh Lindsay holiday changed the name of her channel, i watched her video before the change so I didn't knew immediately

  • @gianninaruiz7436
    @gianninaruiz7436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Thanks for giving a shoutout to Lindsay Holiday!

  • @WALTJOY
    @WALTJOY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Fun fact: According to my great-great-grandmother's genealogy notes, she had a cousin that lived in Canada married a woman whose mother was a cousin to Winston Churchill. So my family is related to The Churchills through marriage!

    • @wordzmyth
      @wordzmyth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So your mother's cousin married a woman whose mother's cousin was winstone Churchill. Nice pattern

    • @carolweaver3269
      @carolweaver3269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My husband is also a descendant of The Royals and it begins in his genealobgy line from King Henry the 2nd down too his mother. (Plantangnet and Tudors) So he is also a distant cousin of Winton Churchill, General Sherman, and Princess Katherine and Princess Diana, Several Presidents of the U.S. as well. I am related to a few Pres of the U.S. also, but not the same as my husband. Actualy soem how the wif of Kng Henry the 8th Katherine of Aragan , also is in his family tree! It crosses a few tiem over and over. Tey married in and also with other countries as well. They tired to keep the wars down and the money in the family, as it seems. Soyou must be related to my husband some how?

    • @cdemr
      @cdemr ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I feel honored to have met Winston Churchill's 5th cousin in-law 4 times removed on the internet.
      Lucky day I guess

  • @johannesofie777
    @johannesofie777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I have always thought that Diana and W. Churchill were closer related because her father (John Spencer) is almost a look alike for Churchill. I guess some similarities skips through the generations (I myself look most like my grand grandfather's sister than anyone else on both sides of my family)

  • @Squeezieful
    @Squeezieful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    This is very well put together and clearly presented! I used to work at Blenheim Palace, the home of the Dukes of Marlborough. I've actually met both the 11th and 12th Duke, and I was working there when the 11th Duke died and the 12th Duke took over. The 11th Duke used to walk around the palace turning off all the lights because he didn't want the high electricity bill - and then we had to go around after him turning them all back on again because the palace is open to visitors! There's also a Winston Churchill exhibition at the palace, as he was also born there (and is also buried there). A lot of people used to get confused and say "Oh...so Winston Churchill was also a Duke??!". I had to answer that question multiple times a day. Winston was Godfather to the 11th Duke though.

    • @CallieMasters5000
      @CallieMasters5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I remember that room off the main hall with Winston memorabilia, including his American passport that he was given as an honor. I can't remember if he was born in that room or that's just where all his stuff was displayed.

    • @vegetariansuniteworldwide8091
      @vegetariansuniteworldwide8091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I visited Blenheim Palace and I marveled at all of it. I was there when the eclipse happened. It was quite weird!

    • @willalexander62
      @willalexander62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Winston was offered the Dukedom of London but actually refused it ! But I imagine you mean they thought he was a duke of Marlborough

    • @tommoncrieff1154
      @tommoncrieff1154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I live nearby, so I know what you mean, but Winston Churchill isn’t buried in Blenheim Palace and you won’t see his grave on a palace tour. He’s buried close by at St Martin’s Church, Bladon, which is free to visit. Blenheim Palace is in the parish. His and his wife’s tombs resting places are very simple and surprisingly low key, in this charming country churchyard. Another wonderful place to visit is his own country home, Chartwell in Kent, where he entertained wrote and painted for over 40 years, including during both his terms as Prime Minister.

    • @Squeezieful
      @Squeezieful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tommoncrieff1154 you are right of course, I was generilising really, as in it's very close by and you can visit whilst visiting the palace. I've never been to Kent but if I ever do I'll be sure to check it out!

  • @jogeaney9786
    @jogeaney9786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Great to see Lindsay get a shout-out, love her stuff!

  • @Edmonton-of2ec
    @Edmonton-of2ec 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Funny enough, Winston could’ve been a Duke. He was offered the title “Duke of London” by the King after WWII, but turned it down because he didn’t have the funds to support the highlife expected of a British duke

    • @merasafarmerizindagi5779
      @merasafarmerizindagi5779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hy you exactly right

    • @amirshah5146
      @amirshah5146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Not just that, he refused a hereditary peerage so that his son (and quite frankly, I believe he had this expectation of all of his descendants) can take up a seat in the House of Commons.

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He was twice offered a dukdom first Dover after the war then secondly London when he resigned as PM I'm the 1950s

    • @joannechurchill1004
      @joannechurchill1004 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was under the impression that Winston Churchill was actually born in Ireland and moved to England when he was 3

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joannechurchill1004 where did you get that impression from?

  • @harrydidthis
    @harrydidthis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I’m so happy to see a video on this, as I made a suggestion to explore the Spencer-Churchill’s while back. Genealogy is always endlessly fascinating, keep up the great work UsefulCharts!

  • @Ebyangel
    @Ebyangel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was literally on your page the other day trying to see if you had one on Diana! How cool!

  • @nicolas5427
    @nicolas5427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    You should do a video on the house of Iturbide , the mexican imperial house , their history is very interesting

    • @mr.googoopants3581
      @mr.googoopants3581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As a distant relation of Her Imperial Majesty Empress Ana Maria, Iturbide's wife - I would agree to that suggestion.

  • @heathermichaelson3526
    @heathermichaelson3526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Lindsay Holiday’s videos are fantastic! I watch both channels the moment they’re released. Love it!

  • @cleopatraviiqueenofegypt159
    @cleopatraviiqueenofegypt159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I have to thank you for mentioning Lindsay Holiday. Her videos are very educative just as these ones are. You should do a collab someday!

  • @mv7647
    @mv7647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great mention of Lindsay Holiday! Her channel complements yours perfectly in all things royal and dynastic.

  • @nickpapadopoulos9978
    @nickpapadopoulos9978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    You should do a video on the Monferrat branch of the Palaiogos family and their cadet succesor house of Palailogos-Oriundi!

  • @debraturner4559
    @debraturner4559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    When something is so thorough and well done as these charts are, you wonder how a mistake got through. Diana’s younger brother is not John but Charles Spencer. Also note that William is a direct descendant of not one, but two Stuart Kings, the other is James II, offspring of his mistress.

    • @catzenhouse
      @catzenhouse ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She did have an older brother John who died in infancy a year before she was born.

  • @sharp52092
    @sharp52092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The Spencers are also said to be descendants of James II through (correct me if I'm wrong) Arabella Churchill, the 1st Duke of Marlborough's sister.

    • @kolomaznik333
      @kolomaznik333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. I just went into short rabbit hole and learned something new ;)

    • @sharp52092
      @sharp52092 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kolomaznik333 Blame Useful Charts LOL ETA: And the Great Courses

    • @kaloarepo288
      @kaloarepo288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Arabella's son by James II(the affair happened before James became king)was the duke of Berwick who fled to the continent when his father was defeated.His descendants are to be found in Spain including the Alba family -one ofSpain's top dynasties.

    • @shahrulamar5358
      @shahrulamar5358 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaloarepo288 Love to watch Jordi Alba play for Spain in Euro 2021. ⚽⚽⚽

    • @Oughut88
      @Oughut88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct. Arabella Churchill, sister of the 1st Duke of Marlborough, had 4 children with King James II. Their daughter, Henrietta FitzJames had a direct descendant, Adelaide Seymour, who married Lord Frederick Spencer, the 4th Earl Spencer.

  • @jackieramos8130
    @jackieramos8130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    my two favorite history channels!!

  • @TomTomMTL
    @TomTomMTL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    They are all Stuart (by Hanoverian) descendent in the royal bloodline. You must mean Jacobite when you say the descendent of Fitzroy.

    • @spirituallyours64whengnats69
      @spirituallyours64whengnats69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is also a half brother to Mary Queen of Scots who also had woman decents.

    • @StevvieD
      @StevvieD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes @usefulcharts that needs to be corrected as even the current Queen is descended from the Stuarts on both sides of her family actually. So William would not be the first.

  • @kwnorton5834
    @kwnorton5834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Diana’s was my 9th cousin, 2x removed & is related to many Americans through the Lee, Strong, and Work families.

    • @mssgoree87
      @mssgoree87 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Diana was my 9th cousin 3x removed.

  • @ingaman
    @ingaman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As a Jacobite I can say it's not what we were hoping for, but we're not UNhappy with this arrangement.

    • @dorderre
      @dorderre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Following another of Matt's videos the current heir of the jacobite succession is the future prince of Liechtenstein. Quite funny when you think about it. Revolting several times against german princes just to watch another german prince becoming the heir to one's preferred succession line :D
      But the Diana part is, intentional or not, at least a bit of reconciliation between the two factions.
      I guess the best thing to happen in this regard would be if the future prince of Liechtenstein had a daughter who married Prince George.

    • @katerinakemp5701
      @katerinakemp5701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@news_internationale2035 no thanks.

  • @jeffersonlester7411
    @jeffersonlester7411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Diana, is my 9th cousin , once removed on my mother's side . Our common relative is, lady Alice Spencer ( 1625-1712 ) Countess of Drogheda ,, Her husband was Henry John Moore 1st Earl of Drogheda (1625- 1676) her daughter Mary E. Moore is my 8th Grand - mother and her sister Lady Mary Moore (1646 - 1677 ) who is lady Diana Spencer 's 8th Great-grand mother is my 8th great aunt.

  • @Artari
    @Artari 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Aloha, I absolutely love this man's charts it is so much easier to see the family lines as a whole and the connection....love seeing him make this chart of Diana's family tree :) Diana was a distant cousin of mine ❤

  • @floyd1677
    @floyd1677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Love your videos, only thing to point out is that the 9th Earl Spencer is Charles. He and Diana did have an older brother, John, but he died within 10 hours of his birth in 1960.

  • @amirshah5146
    @amirshah5146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It would also be interesting to highlight the Irish descent of the two princes, through their grandmother Frances, the daughter of the 4th Baron Fermoy, whose wife Lady Fermoy was lady-in-waiting to the Queen mother as well and who practically set-up Lady Diana and Prince Charles together after Lady Sarah had introduced them.

  • @ButacuPpucatuB
    @ButacuPpucatuB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was fabulous! I love genealogy and never knew all of Princess Diana’s relations. I knew her father was an earl but never really delved I to her family tree. Thank you for a great and clear explanation. 🧡🧡

  • @Oughut88
    @Oughut88 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Churchill’s are related to the Spencer’s through several lines. Arabella Churchill, sister of the 1st Duke of Marlborough, had 4 children with King James II. Their daughter, Henrietta FitzJames had a direct descendant, Adelaide Seymour, who married Lord Frederick Spencer, the 4th Earl Spencer.

  • @jenawheeler5436
    @jenawheeler5436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yessss finally, I been looking for this 😭😫

  • @klyanadkmorr
    @klyanadkmorr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I was waiting for the IRISH part of Diana's family, this ancestor [Edmund Maurice Burke Roche] I thought was actually Irish. I thought that was the reason for how cute and ginger Prince Harry became!

    • @USNWaveRet
      @USNWaveRet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Red hair is more associated with Scotland. Irish are more likely to be black hair.

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      science & genealogy shows Scotland Celts is a mix of northern IRISH migrations & local PICTS (as a whole pop. add in Nordic & some AngSax), so AGAIN red hair was from migrating CELTS and Scottish CELTS were from IRELAND. What I referenced was a report & article was CLEARLY discussing Diana had ancestry from a ?Grandmother/ mom's side from Ireland. Of course there's Scottish lineage so BOOM you get double recessive RED hair genes showing up in Diana's offspring with BOOM Charles' genealogy Check out Eupedia website under Celts & celtic_trivia also Redhair genes

    • @sarahcrowley2277
      @sarahcrowley2277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @USNWaveRet Pure Irish don't have black hair. It's usually brown or ginger, blue eyes and fair skin. Though really that is description of both Irish and Scottish being Celts, but the origins are actually French. Especially as the Stewart's originate in France as well as some other branches of the Royal family tree.

    • @USNWaveRet
      @USNWaveRet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sarahcrowley2277 I do agree with French and also Spanish. According to my brother's YDNA group... Irish are predominantly black hair. If you have red hair in the family it usually means of some Scottish ancestry. I've been researching my ancestry for 49 years and working with DNA (at, mt, and Y) since 2016. However, we are all made up from various parts of the European world. We are all a mix of many cultures... the further you go back. One side of my English traces back to Scotland, while the other side to Ireland (one set of maternal great grands). My other set of maternal great grands are from Prussia (along the Rhineland in what we know as Germany), but actually they were Jewish before converting. Yet another from my maternal great grands is my India connection, our Romani Gypsy heritage. My paternal is Irish with a spit of Danish. Research has also brought me to Spain on my Irish. There is still today a town in Spain that are Irish and I have DNA connections there. It's really quite interesting.

    • @elenal2012
      @elenal2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@USNWaveRet fascinating!

  • @Oceansteve
    @Oceansteve 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've done the churchil history tour in Blenhen Palace about 3 times, but this was far clearer than their info.

    • @Michael_Chater
      @Michael_Chater 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So have I. I learned there that the former Prime Minister David Cameron is related to Winston Churchill

  • @allanlank
    @allanlank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm already subscribed to Lindsay's channel but thanks for the shout out.

  • @benedictsaint9715
    @benedictsaint9715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Louis Specer is an absolute cake 😍😍

    • @absolutelyalice1754
      @absolutelyalice1754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Kitty Spencer is goregous!

    • @katerinakemp5701
      @katerinakemp5701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@absolutelyalice1754 I agree.

    • @scarymonster5541
      @scarymonster5541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wtf why does her parents name her kitty?

    • @prettysurelourd5703
      @prettysurelourd5703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scarymonster5541 kitty is a name of her great great grandmother in maternal side of Burke Roche, frances mother of 9th earl Spencer

  • @kate_cooper
    @kate_cooper ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Diana’s brother is called Charles, not John.
    John was the name of her parents’ first son (born before Diana) who, sadly, didn’t live. Although, if he had, Diana’s parents might not have had her and we’d have a very different royal family today.

  • @maryavatar
    @maryavatar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Hanover line is also descended from the Stuart line. So the descendants of the Stuarts are still in power and never lost it. Also, the Jacobite line didn’t go through Charles II, it went through his younger brother, James, hence the name ‘Jacobite’.

  • @dengarmuzikbukankritikartis
    @dengarmuzikbukankritikartis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks for recommending Lindsay's channel. both yours and hers are my go-to channels for Royals

  • @pokeman747
    @pokeman747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    All of the current Royal Family is Stuart descended. Elizabeth Stuart - Sophia of Hanover - George I of Britain

  • @cambriavictory
    @cambriavictory 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for the channel suggestion, I am looking forward to watching it.

  • @kennethhealy3153
    @kennethhealy3153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Princess Diana s maternal grandfather was Irish a Burke Roche who held an estate in Tranolgan county Cork

    • @loredelore7286
      @loredelore7286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maurice Roche, 4th Baron of Fermoy. Probably with French ancestry. Do you mean Trabolgan?

  • @carlcronje8412
    @carlcronje8412 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Slight mistake...Diana Princess of Wales had a brother that was a still born before her...he was called John...Diana's younger brother and current Earl is Charles Spencer

  • @davidringmann3395
    @davidringmann3395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How about making a video about the Dukes of Medinaceli who were past over claimants to the trone of Castile-Leon back in the 13th or 14th century and whose head is a young woman with over 40 noble titles including 10 spanish grandeeships? Or about the kings of Georgia who include a matrilineal marriage back in the 13th century?

  • @princ3ssangéli
    @princ3ssangéli 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i love this video!

  • @natashaheimberg
    @natashaheimberg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wish you had the Jennie Jerome line done. I am supposed to be from that line, as she was American.
    Thanks for the videos. I love the charts you have created.

  • @chunkypythagoras1732
    @chunkypythagoras1732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So Winston Churchill and Diana Spencer were sixth cousins once removed.

  • @HistoryOfRevolutions
    @HistoryOfRevolutions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    John Locke once wrote:
    "All men are liable to error; and most men are, in many points, by passion or interest, under temptation to it"

  • @billofrightsamend4
    @billofrightsamend4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Spencer's are Native British and the Royal family is from the Germanic tribe. My grandfather told me that. I always wondered what he meant. There's lots of royal people that don't live in Castles. The Irish for example.

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Spencers claim descent from the medieval Despencers who were of French origin

    • @zyxw2000
      @zyxw2000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Germans go back so many generations (Victoria's father and husband) that it doesn't matter. My people came from Russia, but that doesn't make me Russian.

  • @20Stephanus
    @20Stephanus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love these videos and decided to subscribe.
    I would love a series on ancient cities, whether they were like (for example Babylon), whether they are more likely to be myths (for example Atlantis and El Dorado), and what their contribution (mythic or real ) has been to modern civilization.
    Once more, fantastic videos.

    • @Susieq26754
      @Susieq26754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The United States was based on the myth Atlantis. It was the model created by The Founding Fathers. To create a symbol of Atlantis. The United States was the model of Atlantis.
      Where Is Babylon? The city of Babylon was located about 50 miles south of Baghdad along the Euphrates River in present-day Iraq. It was founded around 2300 B.C. by the ancient Akkadian-speaking people of southern Mesopotamia.Feb 2, 2018.
      The dream of El Dorado, a lost city of gold, led many a conquistador on a fruitless trek into the rainforests and mountains of South America. But it was all wishful thinking. The "golden one" was actually not a place but a person - as recent archaeological research confirms.Jan 14, 2013

    • @Susieq26754
      @Susieq26754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      El Dorado, originally El Hombre Dorado or El Rey Dorado, was the term used by the Spanish in the 16th century to describe a mythical tribal chief or king of the Muisca people, an indigenous people of ... Wikipedia

    • @Susieq26754
      @Susieq26754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Atlantis : Ancient Greek Atlantis nesos, "island of Atlas") is a fictional island mentioned in an allegory wherein it represents the naval power that besieges "Ancient Athens", the embodiment of Plato's ideal state in The Republic.

  • @Samoa21
    @Samoa21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Fancy doing my family tree and showing how I'm related to King Edward I

  • @eldiablo8580
    @eldiablo8580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I thought Diana's brother, the current Earl Spencer is called Charles, not John

    • @kanyebreast6072
      @kanyebreast6072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He is. Ignore this video, its full of errors. Quite embarrassing really.

    • @liriodendronlasianthus
      @liriodendronlasianthus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kanyebreast6072 I'd like to see you make a "better" one

  • @spencereades
    @spencereades 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Until this video, I've never been semantically satiated with my own name before. I'm having an identity crisis halp

  • @gailhorne1929
    @gailhorne1929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’ve looked back through many of the comments and can’t see any mention of a small error. Diana Spencer’s brother’s name is Charles Edward Maurice Spencer not John as said in your tree.

    • @catzenhouse
      @catzenhouse ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John was an older brother who died in infancy a year before Diana was born.

  • @dVb9
    @dVb9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Your pronunciation of' 'Marlborough' is hilarious.

    • @thejuryspeaks
      @thejuryspeaks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He’s American obviously

    • @dVb9
      @dVb9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thejuryspeaks I know. We had an American standing in the recent London mayoral election, who claimed he was 'running' for mayor and kept referring to Londoners living in 'burrows'. He didn't get very far...

  • @godemperorofmankind3.091
    @godemperorofmankind3.091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Please do Who would be King of Greece today/Greek Monarchy family tree next.

    • @invictidomini6846
      @invictidomini6846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      But the old king of Greece still lives, I think

    • @veljkobogdanovic609
      @veljkobogdanovic609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The next king of Greece would be crown Prince Pavlos simply

    • @youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan6687
      @youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan6687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Greek Monarchy is 0% Greek by Descent lol

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@invictidomini6846 He has been an ex-king longer than he was king. That's a small club.

    • @idk-wv1sf
      @idk-wv1sf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@invictidomini6846 yes he is still alive it succesion is quite clear first the former king then the crown prince

  • @dorismoil8594
    @dorismoil8594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Harry looks exactly like his cousin Louis Spencer in the photos in the family tree!

    • @maryh9569
      @maryh9569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also , Prince Harry kids , As much as you may disagree with me or disowned his kids have more of the Spencer heritage than his brother William kids , The Red Hair , and it's said by the UK Royal Family Documentary Lily Diana is the only Grandchild of Charles and Diana with their Blue Eye Color,

  • @CSGray-nf2hx
    @CSGray-nf2hx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember learning that they were related and thinking it makes sense in a weird way

  • @ABanimationLtd
    @ABanimationLtd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Correction: the office of Lord High Treasurer is not directly held by the Prime Minister - the office is held in commission by a number of commissioners, of whom the Prime Minister is one as First Lord of the Treasury, alongside the Chancellor of the Exchequer as the Second Lord of the Treasury, and a number of government whips as junior lords commissioners.

  • @cocoaorange1
    @cocoaorange1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think Winston's grandkid was one of Diana and Charlie's flower girls.I never knew Diana's sister was married to a family member of Fergie.

  • @fredriks5090
    @fredriks5090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Was just looking up Disney family trees (both cinema and Walt) and you just uploaded.
    Big mood.

    • @tintinillumenati1618
      @tintinillumenati1618 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool cool but what was the reason WHy she diiee?! Plxplz tell me !!

  • @d.j.schneider1528
    @d.j.schneider1528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can you do a video on the branches of the House of Oldenburg and the many partitions of Schleswig Holstein and also why the full Gluksburg house name is so long?

    • @dorderre
      @dorderre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Schleswig and Holstein were two principalities in the borderland between the HRE and Denmark.
      When a member of the Oldenburg family became ruler of this area, he was styled Count (Graf) of Schleswig-Holstein.
      When this family eventually split into several cadet branches, each of them kept the main Schleswig-Holstein part of the name and added the region where their (smaller) dominion was located, for example the branch ruling in the area of Sonderburg became "Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg".
      When this branch later split again into branches located in Augustenburg or Glücksburg, they did the same, keeping the Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg part and added the part where they were living, thus creating "Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Augustenburg" or "Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg".
      And I wanna bet if that line had split again, they'd done the exact same thing again creating an even longer string of place names for an even smaller part of the realm :D
      Funfact: the later Romanows were also part of this multi branch family. When the Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorps married into the Romanow family, they created the line of Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorp-Romanow, but since the "Romanow" part was far more famous/prestigious than a junior branch of some random german principality, they were calling themselves just "Romanow".

  • @ChazTB
    @ChazTB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, I know this is an old video, but based on your recent video on a lot of US presidents being related to each other in some way I have been compiling data and making a chart on how a lot of UK prime ministers are related to each other. Interestingly someone who holds a lot of prime ministers together is on this chart, that being Henrietta Churchill, 2nd Duchess of Marlborough. Her daughter married prime minister Thomas Pelham-Holmes (4th PM) who can be linked to the 3 before him relatively easily, and her son married Maria Catherina de Jonge who remarried Sir William Wyndham whose daughter links to the Grenville and Pitt families, and George Grenville's (7th PM) mother was a descendent of the hugely influential Temple family which links to more still. Also Winston Churchill's niece married Anthony Eden which was another easy link within the Spencer-Churchill Dynasty. When I have finished the chart (I currently have 13 PMs on it) I hope that you can use it in a video. I hope you see this

  • @MortyMortyMorty
    @MortyMortyMorty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So listen guys: Randolph Churchill's father is Winston Churchill, whose father is Randolph Churchill, whose father is Winston Churchill, whose father is Randolph Churchill, whose father is Winston Churchill.
    🤔

    • @MrABD_YT
      @MrABD_YT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😅

  • @deb53
    @deb53 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting!

  • @gordontaylor2815
    @gordontaylor2815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you consider doing another video of this type, I would suggest the family of Vice-Admiral Horatio Nelson (the famous Napoleonic War admiral who died at Trafalgar) - there's a couple interesting branches to trace down (as well as a daughter that was the result of a very high profile affair at the time)!

  • @The_A_Cast
    @The_A_Cast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This channel is literally my favorite on all of TH-cam.
    I love blazin’ and watching these videos! Your voice is like asmr!

  • @cgt3704
    @cgt3704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So Diana and Churchhill were distant realtives. AND NOONE TOLD ME ABOUT IT

    • @kanyebreast6072
      @kanyebreast6072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well don't be so lazy and do your own research!

  • @samuelaugusto761
    @samuelaugusto761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    awesome video

  • @maireddin
    @maireddin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love for you to do a tree for the D'Anglure's (Ogier), crusaders, who much later funded monastries for the Templar's....some great stories. I believe these are Churchill's ancestors.

  • @karensmith7487
    @karensmith7487 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, love this video! :-) Small correction: Diana's younger brother is CHARLES, not John!

  • @zdtfdfhgjk
    @zdtfdfhgjk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please do more videos about the British peerage. The Earls of Devon would be amazing.

  • @ladytamaya4737
    @ladytamaya4737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is Diana, Princess of Wales or Lady Diana Spencer. Although she was born an aristocrat, she was not born royal to be called Princess Diana. It is just a habit because it looks "nice".
    Your report is great, just found your channel in my feed.

  • @CallieMasters5000
    @CallieMasters5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your presentation style sounds like the Dragnet narrator, like you're an FBI agent about to reveal some crazy facts. 😁

  • @maxinezook4618
    @maxinezook4618 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I also just found out from watching a biography about Consuelo Vanderbilt that some branches of this family tree also extend to the American Vanderbilt family because she was married to Charles Richard John Spencer-Churchill so she is the matriarch of one of the lines of his family from then on (mother of John A.W. Spencer-Churchill & his younger brother Ivor Churchill). It's one of many "dollar princess" stories that makes this family's history even more fascinating & directly connects this British family tree to the American Vanderbilt family tree 😊

  • @DailyInsidePakistan1
    @DailyInsidePakistan1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice video. Love from Pakistan.
    I have my family Tree upto almost upto 75 direct forefathers where from i am decendant.

  • @anki5156
    @anki5156 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It just blew my mind to hear that Fergie an Diana are related through her sister

  • @jaycristoval6155
    @jaycristoval6155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Diana's brother is Charles Edward Maurice Spencer. Your chart has him listed as John Spencer. John is not one of his name's. Her father (Edward John Spencer) was called John Spencer.

    • @catzenhouse
      @catzenhouse ปีที่แล้ว

      She had an older brother named John who died in infancy a year before Diana was born.

  • @joykendrick6156
    @joykendrick6156 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm related to both of them. Princess Diana was my 11th cousin and Winston Churchill a cousin as well. 😊

  • @Alex-mn1fb
    @Alex-mn1fb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I laughed so hard at the James Charles TH-cam reference :D

  • @mysryuza
    @mysryuza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how Winston Churchill’s bloodline is like “Names son partially after his father, son names his own son after his father” and the latter repeats like 2 more times with a constant back-and-forth of Winston and Randolph 😂

  • @jnliewmichael4235
    @jnliewmichael4235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oops, I guess someone forgot to add links to either Lindsay Holiday's channel or video.
    So I've searched it up myself.

  • @aimaction7393
    @aimaction7393 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WELL PRESENTED AND WELL SPOKEN.

  • @benroytravels9881
    @benroytravels9881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It’s been a long time since I felt so lost in one of these Royal family trees 🤪

    • @tintinillumenati1618
      @tintinillumenati1618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea THEY ARE Many! Like me I live IN denmark Copenhagen !! WE ALSO have royal FAMILY here sooo funny tho !! But our Queen !! THAT there ya know like wowjustwow!! Hold up !!

    • @Stettafire
      @Stettafire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tintinillumenati1618 fun fact, our Royal family is related to yours

    • @tintinillumenati1618
      @tintinillumenati1618 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Stettafire yea Aint it like THAT all around !!!! Soooo SILLY THEY ARE !!

  • @johnjones9104
    @johnjones9104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She was my 17th cousin we are both descended from John ap maredydd of clennenay near penmorfa, he fought for Henry 7th at Bosworth ❤️

  • @drevenypribor6144
    @drevenypribor6144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Diana's brother is named Charles not John

  • @bluemym1nd
    @bluemym1nd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was just studying this tree on Entitree and now you cover it too!

  • @Oceansteve
    @Oceansteve 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Very timely video after the court finding yesterday making everyone ask who she was and how was it considered normal for her to be expected to accept the life of being a formal wife and a concubine in the background.

    • @Stettafire
      @Stettafire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wife and concubine is a contradiction in terms. I'd suggest looking up the definitions

    • @heronsdoor4658
      @heronsdoor4658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Can you explain a bit more of what you're talking about please?... I'm in the dark.

    • @Stettafire
      @Stettafire 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@heronsdoor4658 the crazy person is mistaking marriage and sexual slavery

    • @AnnaBomBanana
      @AnnaBomBanana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@heronsdoor4658 concubine is the mistress.

    • @MrDannyDetail
      @MrDannyDetail 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Stettafire I'm not sure, but I think Fit means that one woman was being expected to accept the role of a formal wife, whilst a different woman was the concubine in the background. So I'd guess they're talking about Diana and Camilla. I could be wrong though, as I don't think there was a court case yesterday involving either of them.

  • @beastshawnee
    @beastshawnee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently saw a movie called Jenny about Winston Churchill’s mother-She was unconventional indeed and it was great!

  • @adunreathcooper
    @adunreathcooper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aaah, don't you mean Charles Spencer, 9th Earl Spencer? I believe John was a still birth in 1960.

  • @cherylsemrau7100
    @cherylsemrau7100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the information. Greetings from Canada.

  • @annakirshenbaum1458
    @annakirshenbaum1458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Can you do Queen Elizabeth's dynasty? I followed her patrilineal ancestors on wikipedia and they go a thousand years back to Italy. That's just wikipedia and me clicking links. I wonder what one can come up with using actual sources and knowledge of genealogy.

    • @charlesfenwick6554
      @charlesfenwick6554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So many generations ago, she has at least a billion other ancesters.

  • @darynvoss7883
    @darynvoss7883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "This is a very old family"
    All families are equally old.