Hi Mat Baker, just a heads up that I've sent two emails on your website about a couple missing charts of US and Canadian history I purchased in 2023. The shipping label says 4 but I only received 2 in the box. Not sure if your email form is working but thought I would send it to you this way. Thanks,
I thought about that but decided against it because in her case, her tragedy was the direct result of her own father's actions, not some sort of outside force or unexpected accident. I think that's an important point to be remembered.
@@UsefulChartsHe acted under medical advice and the procedure was done by a doctor, so it's not like he did it himself. It was just a bad medical decision to perform a procedure that wouldn't be made today.
Matriarch Rose Kennedy once famously commented that her life could be described as the title of a Michelangelo biography called "The Agony and the Ecstasy". In that same interview in the 1970s, the interviewer asked, in polite terms, if she was at least happy to have had her son be president despite the assassination, and she said "No", that no success could overcome the horror of assassinations.
Honestly, poor woman. You lose your eldest to war, your next two sons to assassinations. Your eldest daughter is subjected to a medical procedure you never gave consent for that destroys her. Like, how much grief can one woman bear? Her and Ethel Skacel… man. You’ve got to be a powerful person with fortitude beyond comprehension not to be utterly consumed by grief.
@@Chaotic_PixieYeah, you could be one of the most awful rude nasty people and I still wouldn't wish for all the tragedy that Rose Kennedy saw in her life. She lived until 104, almost 105. Even with that much time, she saw a lot of awful things befall her family.
@Petey0707 The hell you even talking about? Kennedy wasn't the one who got the US involved in the war directly, he was dead by a few years by the time it even happened??
I think Rosemary should count as part of the curse. Her initial mental delays were caused by a botched birth that left her brain without oxygen for a time which caused her future behavioral problems. She then had the lobotomy so not to have those behavioral problems interfere with her brother's political careers. She may not have died from it but it sounds pretty cursed to me.
Here's a connection for you. Jackie Bouvier's sister was married to William A. V. Cecil Cecil was the younger son of Cornelia Stuyvesant Vanderbilt (1900-1976) and English-born aristocrat John Francis Amherst Cecil (1890-1954). He was the grandson of George Washington Vanderbilt II and Lord William Cecil, the great-grandson of William Henry Vanderbilt and William Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Exeter. His maternal great-great grandfather was railroad and steamship baron, Commodore Cornelius Vanderbilt. Jackie's distant cousin is Anderson Cooper of CNN, who's mother was Gloria Vanderbilt, daughter of millionaire equestrian Reginald Claypoole Vanderbilt of the Vanderbilt family and socialite Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt, and Reginald's patrilineal great-grandfather was business magnate Cornelius Vanderbilt, Cornelius Vanderbilt's great-great-great-grandfather, Jan Aertson or Aertszoon ("Aert's son"), was a Dutch farmer from the village of De Bilt in Utrecht, Netherlands, who emigrated to New Amsterdam (later New York) as an indentured servant in 1650.[ The Dutch van der ("of the") was eventually added to Aertson's village name to create "van der Bilt" ("of the Bilt"). This was eventually condensed to Vanderbilt. Jan's son, Anthony Janszoon van Salee was one of Cornelius Vanderbilt's great-great-great-great-grandfathers. Jan and Anthony were privateers working out of Morocco and Anthony is thought to be the first Muslim in the colonies. Anthony's daughter Annica, married Thomas Southard. Their daughter Abigail was the great-great-grandmother of Cornelius Vanderbilt Thomas and Annica's son, Isaac, is a direct line ancestor of my mother, whose grandfather was Lawrence Southard of Iowa. That makes me a distant cousin to both Cooper and Jackie. Yeah, the Kennedy's have a VERY illustrious family line.
In the alt-history streaming series "For All Mankind", Ted Kennedy's ill-fated vacation never happened because of the surprising news that the Soviets landed a man on the Moon first. He then went on to beat Nixon in 1972, but lost to Reagan in '76.
Rosemary should be considered a close-call case because of how bad her lobotomy went and how she survived through the instutionalisation and had sympathetic family on the other side.
If you watch "Grey Gardens", you'll see they call each other big/little Eee-die, not Ed-ie, same as most people shorten the common pronunciation of Edith. Also, it's "You-niss" for Eunice, not how you were saying it "You-neice".
You skip over Patricia Kennedy and Peter Lawford's oldest son Actor and Drug Addiction Activism Christopher Lawford. While he spent a lot of his youth addiction to drugs, he became clean and was an actor on the soap opera All My Children as Charlie Brent. Later o he became a writer and a world drug addiction advocate. He died in 2018 of a heart attack.
He also had a role in "13 Days" the Cuban missile crisis film starring Kevin Costner. Lawford portrayed the naval aviator Cmdr William Ecker who was sent in on a low level surveillance flight over Cuba during the crisis. He gave an excellent performance, sad that he died so young.
Chris Lawford lasted one semester at Fordham Law School the mysteriously transferred to Boston College Law School. He then dropped out of law school . Rumor was that arose donated bucks to both schools
Would love to see analyses of other American political dynasties (Rockefeller already done) - I recall the Udalls of Arizona, Frelinghuysens of NJ, Pryors and Hutchinsons of Arkansas, Bennetts of Utah, Bayhs of Indiana, Byrds of Virginia, Burdicks of North Dakota, Thurmonds of South Carolina, etc, etc, etc
The video fails to mention that the original Kennedy in America, Pat, or Patrick Kennedy, died when his son P.J. Kennedy was just an infant of less than a year old. It was his widowed mother that raised him, and she was Bridgett Murphy of Wexford, Ireland. She molded him, financed his first business venture which was a tavern, and which led to his political career. There is more Murphy in the first political Kennedy, P.J., than there is Kennedy. And hence the generations since.
Re: the supposed curse. If a family has that many members, a certain percentage will die early, also a certain percentage won't. It's not likely in my little family with 2 siblings and only one child. If a family has that many politicians, they're going to take more plane trips than any average family.
William Cavendish was connected to British politics. His uncle was Prime Minister Harold Macmillan, who served while JFK was President. I’m surprised that wasn’t mentioned.
Rfk jr's son with Richardson is Connor Kennedy, who is onow to have dated Taylor Swift, so i gues that makes her an unoficial part of the family tree as well. He would later serve as a volunter in Ukraine
When my dad was a young man, he once caddied for Jackie O., while she was golfing at the country club where he worked. He said that she was dignified, had impeccable manners, was very kind, and that she tipped generously, unlike many of the wealthy people that golfed there. It was either in Massachusetts or Rhode Island (we're New Englanders), but I don't know which country club/golf course he worked at, at the time. For a while, he worked at the Pleasant Valley Country Club; it may have been there, but I don't know for sure..
Great presentation! 👏It really put things together from all the different stories (and deaths) over the years. In a basic way so my brain could understand 😂Thanks for all the work you do Matt! 🌟
Well I have heard about Kennedy Family Tree originating from Ireland back to date: 900 A.D. In a fact, the Kennedy family immigrated to Boston, Massachusetts during the Great Potato Famine occurred in Ireland. My close college friend at Gallaudet University told me about Kennedy curse in the story while having our chats in the college cafeteria on the campus as I still was at Gallaudet University during my old college days.
I noticed once you hadn't done the Adamses yet, so that could definitely be in the future sometime. I wonder if any American politics charts that don't have to relate to genealogy would be good since while we have political families we don't have any hereditary political offices.
Also not so fun fact Ethel Skakel Kennedy's nephew Michael were accused of killing Martha Moxley. He was convicted in the 2000s but got out on appeal. My mom;s friend found Martha's body. My mom says Michael did it, but my aunt is convinced his brother Tommy did it. So yeah
19:31 he’s married to Amy Kennedy who ran for New Jersey’s second congressional district but lost narrowly in the 2020 election. Also Jack Schlossberg is definitely someone to watch lol 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💙💙💙
If there was some sort of cause for the curse, I think it was what happened to Rosemary. It's sickening that a father would ever do that to their own child
I definitely agree that what he did wasn't helpful at all. But it wasn't her cause of death. If she got the lobotomy as a teen & died at 86, she probably didn't die from it.
Great video as usual, though I would like to note that before RFK Jr. was known for conspiracy theories and vaccine misinformation, he was known for being an environmental lawyer.
Did I miss mention of Kathleen 'Kick' Kennedy who died in a plane crash with her married lover in 1948? The family didn't attend the funeral as they were ashamed of her affair with a married man - and a protestant one at that.
Her dad did attend the funeral. Nobody else was ashamed of the affair other than her mother. Her siblings didn’t attend the funeral because JFK who was supposed to plan their plane tickets broke down and couldn’t bring himself to go. Later on they did visit her grave and stayed close with the Cavendish family.
The original Rat Pack was started in the late 40s-early 50s by Humphrey Bogart, Frank Sinatra, and others. They met at Bogart and Bacall’s mansion and when Bogart died in 1957, Frank Sinatra took over.
Hey, which family tree generating software do you use to create connections between individuals within the tree (who aren’t direct siblings)? for example if making a family tree , and I need to show how cousins are related from both maternal and paternal side (I need to connect it).
I'm sorry but I don't think RFK Jr. is most known for his conspiracy theories. I would argue he is most known for his work as attorney. I knew about RFK Jr. due to his work as an attorney far before I learned about his stances on specific topics.
These family trees are so intriguing, seeing the patterns in family history. I read in the Alexander Hamilton biography that his lineage can be tracked to the 14th century in Scotland, do you think you’d do a video on that 👀👀
From what I’ve read, Rosemary was capable of taking care of herself despite her mental limitations. She was mildly handicapped in that regard. But the lobotomy completely destroyed her.
Great video Matt. Joe Kennedy III seemed to be on the rise in Massachusetts a few years back. I think he erred by taking on the incumbent Democratic Senator from Ed Markey. Ed became the first politician to beat a Kennedy in Mass, on a pretty grand stage nonetheless. Ed is an effective and popular Senator and Joe may have overplayed his hand in taking him on when he did. I think he may have had more success taking on Elizabeth Warren but maybe he didn't want to wait a few more years because of Presidential ambitions or maybe he didn't want to take on another Harvard elite.
@19:36 just for clarity, after Patrick J. Kennedy snr, there has been Patrick J. Kennedy jnr, Patrick J. Kennedy II, Patrcik J. Kennedy II, Patrick J. Kennedy II (no typo, I did there has been 3 of them), and Patrick J. Kennedy III. Perhaps someone should thought that one through.
You left out Ethel’s nephew’s murder charges. And Jackie’s mother’s family especially via her subsequent marriage. The author and political pundent Gore Vidal is related to the family by marriage.
For as good as your charts are, it's disheartening to see several family members labeled "Keneddy." Pat, PJ and Rosemary are all wrong. Carolyn Bessette's first name is misspelled too.
Rosemary didn’t hate her siblings nor would she wish death on them. Half of them were literally minors when it happened and the other half were barely adults. They only found out the truth later in the 60s and then started to speak out about her and bring her back home.
RFK jr should be known for successfully suing corporations for a variety of horible things, cleaning the Hudson River, being a practical environmentalist, defender of the constitution....
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Hi Mat Baker, just a heads up that I've sent two emails on your website about a couple missing charts of US and Canadian history I purchased in 2023. The shipping label says 4 but I only received 2 in the box. Not sure if your email form is working but thought I would send it to you this way. Thanks,
@@mbabcock111 You'll probably hear from someone on Monday. If not, try help@usefulcharts.com.
@@UsefulCharts most excellent, thank you Sir. Hope you're feeling better,
@@UsefulCharts Hi Matt, received the order. Thanks again. The charts are amazing! Great to see the big picture about history. 🤝
Well, today I was not expecting to discover Schwarzenegger to be Pratt's father-in-law.
Found that out like 6 years ago
I knew that but didn't know his wife was a daughter of a Kennedy
@@SardGuard and at the same time, JFK is the granduncle of Arnold's children from his marriage
He is also a Republican. Who was married into a Democrat family. They didn't speak out against him. But, didn't back him really either.
@SardGuard Maria Shriver's mother was Eunice Kennedy, who, among so many other things, founded the Special Olympics. ❤
Kinda hilariously messed up that they named a whole airport after JFK considering this family's history with planes
I found that funnier then it should be lol
Australia named a swimming pool after a Prime Minister that drowned.
That's like naming an airport after Joseph Joestar.
Yeah, exactly!
for me it’s that it’s in New York and not Massachusetts where he’s from.
I think Rosemary should be considered a victim of the curse, too.
If there was such a thing as a curse I would agree.
and ted
although he did not die, he was involved in some interesting deaths
I thought about that but decided against it because in her case, her tragedy was the direct result of her own father's actions, not some sort of outside force or unexpected accident. I think that's an important point to be remembered.
@@UsefulCharts Have you thought about doing other US political families like the Clinton's for example?
@@UsefulChartsHe acted under medical advice and the procedure was done by a doctor, so it's not like he did it himself. It was just a bad medical decision to perform a procedure that wouldn't be made today.
Matriarch Rose Kennedy once famously commented that her life could be described as the title of a Michelangelo biography called "The Agony and the Ecstasy". In that same interview in the 1970s, the interviewer asked, in polite terms, if she was at least happy to have had her son be president despite the assassination, and she said "No", that no success could overcome the horror of assassinations.
Honestly, poor woman. You lose your eldest to war, your next two sons to assassinations. Your eldest daughter is subjected to a medical procedure you never gave consent for that destroys her. Like, how much grief can one woman bear? Her and Ethel Skacel… man. You’ve got to be a powerful person with fortitude beyond comprehension not to be utterly consumed by grief.
@@Chaotic_PixieYeah, you could be one of the most awful rude nasty people and I still wouldn't wish for all the tragedy that Rose Kennedy saw in her life. She lived until 104, almost 105. Even with that much time, she saw a lot of awful things befall her family.
@@Chaotic_PixieNot to mention a daughter killed in a plane crash.
Seems like karma considering he ignited an imperialist war in Vietnam which was little more than a genocide.
@Petey0707 The hell you even talking about? Kennedy wasn't the one who got the US involved in the war directly, he was dead by a few years by the time it even happened??
Did you just casually end that video with Dietrich sleeping with both father and son?!
That's what I thought I heard...🤨
That's what's claimed, yeah.
Yeh she was insane. First I heard her was when Michael Cane talked about her on Graham Norton. I googled and found all sorts of stuff 😳
lol i was a bit disturbed with that!
Idk man, if my last name was Kennedy, I’d probably avoid going on an airplane.
Well, the airplane could always come to you...
JFK Jr. used to fly into JFK airport all the time, before he died in a plane crash.
Kennedy- the irl joestars
Or go for a ride in convertible, with the top down, in Dallas.
I think Rosemary should count as part of the curse. Her initial mental delays were caused by a botched birth that left her brain without oxygen for a time which caused her future behavioral problems. She then had the lobotomy so not to have those behavioral problems interfere with her brother's political careers. She may not have died from it but it sounds pretty cursed to me.
This was one the greatest and well-presented family trees I have ever seen, absolutely mind-blowing
Here's a connection for you. Jackie Bouvier's sister was married to William A. V. Cecil Cecil was the younger son of Cornelia Stuyvesant Vanderbilt (1900-1976) and English-born aristocrat John Francis Amherst Cecil (1890-1954). He was the grandson of George Washington Vanderbilt II and Lord William Cecil, the great-grandson of William Henry Vanderbilt and William Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Exeter. His maternal great-great grandfather was railroad and steamship baron, Commodore Cornelius Vanderbilt.
Jackie's distant cousin is Anderson Cooper of CNN, who's mother was Gloria Vanderbilt, daughter of millionaire equestrian Reginald Claypoole Vanderbilt of the Vanderbilt family and socialite Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt, and Reginald's patrilineal great-grandfather was business magnate Cornelius Vanderbilt,
Cornelius Vanderbilt's great-great-great-grandfather, Jan Aertson or Aertszoon ("Aert's son"), was a Dutch farmer from the village of De Bilt in Utrecht, Netherlands, who emigrated to New Amsterdam (later New York) as an indentured servant in 1650.[ The Dutch van der ("of the") was eventually added to Aertson's village name to create "van der Bilt" ("of the Bilt"). This was eventually condensed to Vanderbilt. Jan's son, Anthony Janszoon van Salee was one of Cornelius Vanderbilt's great-great-great-great-grandfathers. Jan and Anthony were privateers working out of Morocco and Anthony is thought to be the first Muslim in the colonies. Anthony's daughter Annica, married Thomas Southard. Their daughter Abigail was the great-great-grandmother of Cornelius Vanderbilt Thomas and Annica's son, Isaac, is a direct line ancestor of my mother, whose grandfather was Lawrence Southard of Iowa. That makes me a distant cousin to both Cooper and Jackie.
Yeah, the Kennedy's have a VERY illustrious family line.
In the alt-history streaming series "For All Mankind", Ted Kennedy's ill-fated vacation never happened because of the surprising news that the Soviets landed a man on the Moon first. He then went on to beat Nixon in 1972, but lost to Reagan in '76.
This sounds interesting, I"ll have to look for it!
Rosemary should be considered a close-call case because of how bad her lobotomy went and how she survived through the instutionalisation and had sympathetic family on the other side.
If you watch "Grey Gardens", you'll see they call each other big/little Eee-die, not Ed-ie, same as most people shorten the common pronunciation of Edith. Also, it's "You-niss" for Eunice, not how you were saying it "You-neice".
Love the channel but pronunciation of names (just Google it!) could be better.
@@kathrynstemler6331 Yeah. Definitely a lot of mispronunciations in several videos.
Thank you I was just about to say this when I was watching the video.
Thank you! That was killing me!!
You skip over Patricia Kennedy and Peter Lawford's oldest son Actor and Drug Addiction Activism Christopher Lawford. While he spent a lot of his youth addiction to drugs, he became clean and was an actor on the soap opera All My Children as Charlie Brent. Later o he became a writer and a world drug addiction advocate. He died in 2018 of a heart attack.
He also had a role in "13 Days" the Cuban missile crisis film starring Kevin Costner. Lawford portrayed the naval aviator Cmdr William Ecker who was sent in on a low level surveillance flight over Cuba during the crisis. He gave an excellent performance, sad that he died so young.
Chris Lawford lasted one semester at Fordham Law School the mysteriously transferred to Boston College Law School. He then dropped out of law school . Rumor was that arose donated bucks to both schools
"And they lived happily ever after"
"And then they died in a plane crash"
Would love to see analyses of other American political dynasties (Rockefeller already done) - I recall the Udalls of Arizona, Frelinghuysens of NJ, Pryors and Hutchinsons of Arkansas, Bennetts of Utah, Bayhs of Indiana, Byrds of Virginia, Burdicks of North Dakota, Thurmonds of South Carolina, etc, etc, etc
The Bayhs were from Indiana, not Idaho. Great suggestions nonetheless
@@saw7191 Apologies, I meant the Churches.
ok but how did you not mention that RFK Jr. was an environmental lawyer who had a number of amazing successes doing so
Because it’s all kind of overshadowed by his more recent off the rails behavior, unfortunately.
@@CapitalCLYDE the media chooses to push that shit tho. i dont agree w it but his other policies are golden.
His latest book is a good read.
As more facts become revealed to the world, it will be found to be quite fact-filled.
@@cindyknudson2715 he uses lots of citations.
It doesn't fit the narrative.
Ethel Skakel have a nephew who killed a girl, the girl named Martha Moxley
I remember seeing a documentary on that case. Dark.
It inspired the pilot episode of Cold Case
I was waiting for a mention of that.
@@laurameisenhelter9186Why? They are only related to Ethel. This isn’t about her family tree.
@@bbybella9937 Yes, the Skakels would be a whole other video as far as tragedies and scandal!
Rosemary went through a lot and still outlived most of her siblings.
I loved the cat photobombing the pic of big edie
I'm actually related to the Kennedy's. Rose Fitzgerald and my Great grandmother were first cousins.
Take a Gray Hound and leave the top up on convertibles.
You are Rose Fitzgerald's first cousin three times removed.
Thank you for most balanced presentation of this family I can remember seeing.
They have done some good as a family. But they are not perfect people.
Not even the Kennedy curse could take Ahnold from us. The Terminator ain't going out like that.
Even if he does, he'll be back.
😂😂😂😂😂
The video fails to mention that the original Kennedy in America, Pat, or Patrick Kennedy, died when his son P.J. Kennedy was just an infant of less than a year old. It was his widowed mother that raised him, and she was Bridgett Murphy of Wexford, Ireland. She molded him, financed his first business venture which was a tavern, and which led to his political career. There is more Murphy in the first political Kennedy, P.J., than there is Kennedy. And hence the generations since.
Re: the supposed curse. If a family has that many members, a certain percentage will die early, also a certain percentage won't. It's not likely in my little family with 2 siblings and only one child. If a family has that many politicians, they're going to take more plane trips than any average family.
Thank you. At least one logical comment.
William Cavendish was connected to British politics. His uncle was Prime Minister Harold Macmillan, who served while JFK was President. I’m surprised that wasn’t mentioned.
NICE! American political dynasties have always fascinated me 💫
yes. more american political dynasties. i think because the US is a young country it makes these very interesting
Yep,they have already done,I think the Washingtons and the Roosevelts,but what about the other 2 Pres.dynasties ( Adams,Harrisons) ? 👌👍
@@MrSinclairn Bushes too.
Rfk jr's son with Richardson is Connor Kennedy, who is onow to have dated Taylor Swift, so i gues that makes her an unoficial part of the family tree as well.
He would later serve as a volunter in Ukraine
When my dad was a young man, he once caddied for Jackie O., while she was golfing at the country club where he worked. He said that she was dignified, had impeccable manners, was very kind, and that she tipped generously, unlike many of the wealthy people that golfed there. It was either in Massachusetts or Rhode Island (we're New Englanders), but I don't know which country club/golf course he worked at, at the time. For a while, he worked at the Pleasant Valley Country Club; it may have been there, but I don't know for sure..
Great presentation! 👏It really put things together from all the different stories (and deaths) over the years. In a basic way so my brain could understand 😂Thanks for all the work you do Matt! 🌟
Well I have heard about Kennedy Family Tree originating from Ireland back to date: 900 A.D. In a fact, the Kennedy family immigrated to Boston, Massachusetts during the Great Potato Famine occurred in Ireland. My close college friend at Gallaudet University told me about Kennedy curse in the story while having our chats in the college cafeteria on the campus as I still was at Gallaudet University during my old college days.
I’m writing a book right now where JFK Jr doesn’t die, and he marries Princess Diana (also doesn’t die). The two go on to be president and First Lady.
@@moonlightbay4814Go back and read the comment again. They said that their book is about JFK, Jr. not JFK, Sr.
@@Janice360 Ohhhhhh
Thank you!
Send a link to your book or draft if you can! Sounds interesting 😊
So it's a horror story. Cool.
@@takemeaway285 how so?
This is low-key like a sims 4 legacy challenge family.
I noticed once you hadn't done the Adamses yet, so that could definitely be in the future sometime. I wonder if any American politics charts that don't have to relate to genealogy would be good since while we have political families we don't have any hereditary political offices.
14:40 RFK was AG before being Senator, and he was shot TWO months after MLK not one.
Also not so fun fact Ethel Skakel Kennedy's nephew Michael were accused of killing Martha Moxley. He was convicted in the 2000s but got out on appeal. My mom;s friend found Martha's body. My mom says Michael did it, but my aunt is convinced his brother Tommy did it. So yeah
Pat did have a well known child. Her son Christopher Lawford was an actor. I remember him from All My Children and he was also in Blankman.
why didn’t you mention rfk jr’s environmental record?
I wish someone would point out Trump's environmental record to RFK Jr.
imagine if a kennedy marries a bush
Well I have something similar that happen in my class. THERE IS A GIRL IN MY CLASS NAME JACQUELINE BUSJ
Bush*
@@xXBlossomBearXx Why. Didn't. You. Just. Edit. Your. Comment?
@@Ghostyboydead i didn’t had the option for some reason and my YT was laggy
As if a lobotomy wasn't horrifying enough. Now I must contemplate a botched lobotomy.
🧠🤦🏽♂️
It was considered state-of-the-art, leading-edge treatment at the time.
Love this channel! Always good stuff! Thank you, Matt.
19:31 he’s married to Amy Kennedy who ran for New Jersey’s second congressional district but lost narrowly in the 2020 election.
Also Jack Schlossberg is definitely someone to watch lol 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💙💙💙
Thank you for the accurate pronunciation of Ó Cinnéide at the beginning! 😄😄
If there was some sort of cause for the curse, I think it was what happened to Rosemary. It's sickening that a father would ever do that to their own child
I definitely agree that what he did wasn't helpful at all. But it wasn't her cause of death. If she got the lobotomy as a teen & died at 86, she probably didn't die from it.
take a shot every time Matt says "plane crash"
i'm drumpk
Bobby Kennedy did.
@@jabber1990 lol
@@MidwestArtMan lolz
4:13 young Sheldon what are you doing here 😭
Hawaiian Family Tree video would be cool
One of the most famous political families in the US.
It may be topped by the Trump family.
If I was a member of this family, I would never get on a plane or go skiing again
They'd still get you if you got out of line.
Or drive through downtown Dallas with the top down.
Wishing that someday a new Coolidge would emerge.
Correction: Joan and Victoria Kennedy are also still alive
they are spouses not siblings
@@eileensmith05 no Matt said Ethel Kennedy is the only living person from that generation but Victoria and Joan are also still alive
@@aaravnovids2017 Ethel has no living siblings, only in laws
@@eileensmith05 Ethel was a spouse of a Kennedy just like Joan and Victoria.
I've been mistaken. I thought of Ethel as a kennedy sibling.
Great video as usual, though I would like to note that before RFK Jr. was known for conspiracy theories and vaccine misinformation, he was known for being an environmental lawyer.
It does get tricky tho when more and more "misinformation" gets proven to be the truth as the actual facts are revealed over time.
I wish someone would point out Trump's environmental record to RFK Jr.
Did I miss mention of Kathleen 'Kick' Kennedy who died in a plane crash with her married lover in 1948? The family didn't attend the funeral as they were ashamed of her affair with a married man - and a protestant one at that.
Her dad did attend the funeral. Nobody else was ashamed of the affair other than her mother. Her siblings didn’t attend the funeral because JFK who was supposed to plan their plane tickets broke down and couldn’t bring himself to go.
Later on they did visit her grave and stayed close with the Cavendish family.
The history is fascinating enough. The lurid overlay detracts more than adds.
The rat pack was not from the 1940s. The majority of their movies were made during the 1960s including ocean 11.
The original Rat Pack was started in the late 40s-early 50s by Humphrey Bogart, Frank Sinatra, and others. They met at Bogart and Bacall’s mansion and when Bogart died in 1957, Frank Sinatra took over.
Why do these people keep going on planes?
Planes are faster than other means of transportation.
Yeah, this will be a respectful comment section
Ngl the comments on UsefulCharts are usually pretty tame, and that's even on discussions of Atheism, Christianity, The Bible, or The Torah
i'm disappointed so far
I kinda like it!
your post is the only inflammatory one I've seen tbh
Well he did mentioned the Israeli Palestinian conflict so this comment section as no chance
@@divinesleeper You think that comment is inflammatory?
Great video I'll be able to remember a lot of this off the top of my head
I love how he had to put Schwarzenegger in a smaller size 😂
Hey, which family tree generating software do you use to create connections between individuals within the tree (who aren’t direct siblings)? for example if making a family tree , and I need to show how cousins are related from both maternal and paternal side (I need to connect it).
I'm sorry but I don't think RFK Jr. is most known for his conspiracy theories. I would argue he is most known for his work as attorney. I knew about RFK Jr. due to his work as an attorney far before I learned about his stances on specific topics.
Jack Schlossberg looks like the type of guy who’d break your hand in a handshake. Somehow I think of that as a positive
Rosemary's last name is misspelled "Keneddy"??
Not the only one. At least three people misspelled there. A bit sloppy.
Crap.
13:44 Matt, you skipped over Golden Boy!
Great chart!! (Typo in Rosemary's last name)
W Userful Charts, Love your videos! Also why do you not show more of the family and just say the couple has x more kids!
Usually if someone on his chart is a private person he doesn't have a picture for them. Or there isn't room on the chart for a picture 😊
Nothing bad ever happens to the Kennedys!
These family trees are so intriguing, seeing the patterns in family history. I read in the Alexander Hamilton biography that his lineage can be tracked to the 14th century in Scotland, do you think you’d do a video on that 👀👀
From what I’ve read, Rosemary was capable of taking care of herself despite her mental limitations. She was mildly handicapped in that regard. But the lobotomy completely destroyed her.
She was an embarrassment to Joe . This is how he tried to fix her.
This was a fascinating and informative video. Thank you
Oh, but please, it's not big & little Eddie. 🤦
Could you make a chart of the Harry Potter family tree?
I would love to see the Bush Family Tree and the Jefferson Family tree. Thank you for the video
10:06 John : 🫡
Caroline : 😐📕
Great video Matt. Joe Kennedy III seemed to be on the rise in Massachusetts a few years back. I think he erred by taking on the incumbent Democratic Senator from Ed Markey. Ed became the first politician to beat a Kennedy in Mass, on a pretty grand stage nonetheless. Ed is an effective and popular Senator and Joe may have overplayed his hand in taking him on when he did. I think he may have had more success taking on Elizabeth Warren but maybe he didn't want to wait a few more years because of Presidential ambitions or maybe he didn't want to take on another Harvard elite.
I'm interested to hear more about what "Countess of the Holy See" means! That's not a title I've ever heard before.
What about William Kennedy Smith and Michael Skakel?
Michael isn’t a part of the family. He’s related to Ethel. Only William is.
6:25 as I heard ........... That IJN Destroyer is Ayanami class : Amagiri, right?
So glad Jack Schlossberg is represented 😂
Great family tree video. You should do more of those. I'd suggest the Bushes. Thanks, Matt!
@19:36 just for clarity, after Patrick J. Kennedy snr, there has been Patrick J. Kennedy jnr, Patrick J. Kennedy II, Patrcik J. Kennedy II, Patrick J. Kennedy II (no typo, I did there has been 3 of them), and Patrick J. Kennedy III. Perhaps someone should thought that one through.
You left out Ethel’s nephew’s murder charges. And Jackie’s mother’s family especially via her subsequent marriage. The author and political pundent Gore Vidal is related to the family by marriage.
Aideen Kennedy was a news presenter in Northern Ireland.
They were probably so rich that they were able to take many plane rides. Probability.
Love your videos. Also Kennedy 2024!!! 🇺🇸
For as good as your charts are, it's disheartening to see several family members labeled "Keneddy." Pat, PJ and Rosemary are all wrong. Carolyn Bessette's first name is misspelled too.
Imagine being in JFK's family tree, being the son of Chris Pratt and the grandson of Arnold Schwarzenegger.
You're just in time!
Great video! Didn't know so many people were connected to this family
Grey Gardens was turned into a Broadway musical
Sure Ted accidentally crashed his car…he still never called for help and a woman died. Normal people go to prison.
Agreed.
The people of Massachusetts love him.🤷🏽♀️
Maybe the curse is vengeance for Rosemary. We disabled people don't forgive or forget injustice done to us (unless memory problems happen).
Rosemary didn’t hate her siblings nor would she wish death on them. Half of them were literally minors when it happened and the other half were barely adults. They only found out the truth later in the 60s and then started to speak out about her and bring her back home.
It’s probably best practice to never get into a motorized vehicle with a male member of the Kennedy family.
... and keep the top up.
RFK jr should be known for successfully suing corporations for a variety of horible things, cleaning the Hudson River, being a practical environmentalist, defender of the constitution....
Major hate for Bobby Jnr but washes over Ted leaving that poor woman to drown.
Thanks for update to this line, great video!
It isn't a "Kennedy" curse... it's Rosemary's curse
I like that the pic of Chris Pratt is from Guardians
The WASP hated the Catholic Irish gain prominence in politics in the mid 20th century
Watched 3x and played for my sons… thx for the in depth breakdown of American history
I'd love to see a Trudeau family tree video