Being able to stack potions actually makes them viable to bring around. Being only able to carry 1 means its too inconvenient to have to go into your inventory mid pvp to get another potion so you'd just have the one potion. They'd just take up so much room for little help
@@ineophobethe only way I could see these things being handled is to massively nerf and buff potions, especially towards splash & lingering; & maybe that they get a cool down similar to enderpearls after using one.
@@AxolotlTGT stackable splash potions would be too OP having stackable instant damage 2 would be so overpowered you could spam like 5 of them out in a second. Which would mean weapons are useless in pvp
I really hope they add more weapons. having different kinds of weapons would make it that much more of a combat update, even adding weapon stands for more decorative options fitting exactly what Minecraft is all about.
@@KeyboardTarantulathey already do attack the fastest, and the netherite hoe for some reason has an attack speed of 2. They just haven't added any way to deal damage with it
decent idea. personally though, i would see havig bows early game at that point redundant and ineffective, ecspecially when they lose enough accuracy. u might as well switch to the trident at that point for ranged damage until u get hold of the enchantment for the bows and can put it on later in the game. i thinks its a cool concept but would likely be poorly executed.
@@toycat I do remember when people were talking about the old combat style and how they changed it and it made people upset about hopefully they can make it better.
You forgot to mention my favourite change. The trident impaling enchantment matches parity to bedrock where it deals bonus damage to every underwater mob not just squids, dolphins, and turtles (why would you want this?) but on top of that they're making it that impaling deals extra damage to any mob when it is raining or thundering. So with a trident you really feel like a god of the seas, and I feel they really need other weapons like the trident for other elements, like maybe a scythe for the Nether that has enchantments that allow you to deal more damage to mobs in the Nether (Fire) , maybe a dagger or something for the End (Air), and then maybe like a staff or hammer that can be found underground (Earth) all with associated enchantments
i always wanted them to add more "special" items. Not to mention a bunch of new enchantments that would just make sense. Frost for swords like Flame. Or Lava Walker that acts like Frost Walker but leaves temporary gravel/cobble or something to allow you to walk on lava. Just so much variety missing especially when you've seen what they could add from their other games like Dungeons or Legends
the whole turf advantage thing really becomes a part of combat. combine that with pvping in a mountain with tons of powdered snow, another way that one person can have turf advantage by using leather boots
@@Knucklebreaking I think it's down to preference. I love feeling like a child of Poseidon himself, always maxing out my gear with every water enchantment like deapthstrider, respiration, etc
The worst thing about the 1.9 update is that swords without sweeping hit multiple entities. There's nothing more infuriating than hitting your friend when trying to fight mobs together, even if you didn't click on them.
Just don't use swords, as it is right now axes are by far the better option and having the sweeping on unenchanted stone swords is great for mob grinders
yeahhh i was thinking about that, but more significant of a cooldown like 5 second? in mcdungeons your healing potion is unlimited but have a big cooldown. that should fit the throwable potions
nah, i dont think cooldown is needed, potions are already a hassel for a lot of people to get, and are consumable items, they should make it so potions are stronger than swords, so they have a reason to be used, being strong but at the same time more inconvenient and not infinite
@@egbert5871it’s not a direct tutorial. Igloos teach you about the curing and give good loot. I think he is suggesting they will focus on a large group of small enemies until you figure out the best way to deal with that, or how to block by introducing a heavy hitting mob that can be shielded like a creeper. Same difficulty just with more purpose. I’m all for it
@@Churros_are_Overrated so... nothing needs to change it will do that as lol. also i had no ide igloos teach you anything . But that will happen with it being hard so still a whatever hope
@@Churros_are_Overrated so a raid. Fits that well the big Ravagers def want to block that ,lot of enamies in big groups and has enamies you want to take out first (witches and the vex summoning enamies. Also the trials seem to already have that big swarms spaed poison arrows hurt as well
I actually have an idea. So a fletching table can add a modification to a bow using an ore. So coal gives a chance for an arrow to set a mob on fire AND a block on fire (kinda like a better form of flame) and can stack. Iron gives 1 more base damage and 100 more durability, gold gives a 40% drawing boost, lapis having a set chance to slow down enemies, redstone having a visible trajectory (like a dotted line so you kno if your arrow is gonna land on the specific mob or block you want to hit), copper gives a chance of wither damage as like rust damage, diamond having 2 extra base damage and 200 durability and netherite with 3 and 300. You can add 2 enhancments to the bow and crossbow but coal, gold, lapis, redstone and copper has a 70% chance to use 2 durability and 30% chance to use 3 and iron, diamond and netherite cant be used together. Repairing a bow or crossbow with enhancements need 2 of each material (except for diamond and ancient debris) per 100 durability or just use anvils but the fletching table doesnt use xp to fix it so you can fix it infinitely by only using some materials.
bundles are way more useful than people think. there's so many small items i pick up while exploring that i only find one or two of, and they take up so much inventory space. having bundles helps a lot
@@squidwardlegends2950simpler idea: just give it a smithing table-like interface with a slot for arrows and another slot for potions so we can finally tip arrows without having to beat the dragon. make it so you can only stack 8 arrows in a slot at a time so it's not overpowered, and the potion gets used up, leaving an empty bottle.
i do like that they aren't removing cooldown on Java. i started playing right after the update so it's all i've ever known. i only play single player so i use it for EvP, and it's in all my strategies. it's nice they are adding alternative option for it, though. i feel like a bit of both is good for each version. i hope they finally make the trident useful on Java too, if i recall, it's a lot more powered on Bedrock, and i would use it if it was better than a netherite sword under water, but it isn't, and it definitely should be. i love the idea of daggers too, could be of use especially when mobs trap you in a corner and you need to stab your way out fast lmao
The trident really shines on smps where the end is outlawed, in that setting it is the fastest means of transportation that dosen't need Infrastructure, (and watching people learn to pick up and take a bucket of water with them to make it truly independent of any in world needs is amazing)
I don’t like how they changed how nonfull hits have less reach which could possibly completely destroy the sword community and the stackable potions r like super op and all these changes could possibly destroy the pvp community but idk
Java has a huge advantage over bedrock anyways. Instead of moving bedrock features to java move java features to bedrock. And before you ask I am a java player.
I think this combat update is AMAZING! They made the decision between weapons way less straight forward, buffed potions to the point to where they could actually be worth making in PvE, AND made regen way more manageable! But if there was one change I could make in this update, it would be to change anvils. Making repairs not add to the enchantment cost would probably work as a nerf to mending, expecaily on infinity bows. Also, there shouldnt be a limit to how much you can enchant things, it just ruins enchanting for me.
U said the weapon choosing is straight forward but its not rly. Axe can be better then sword if you know what youre doing and sword can be better then axe
I feel like this is a very big assumption that the "Combat Adventures" will be adding the combat snapshot type combat. I have a feeling that the only thing in this new update that will be related to the "Combat Adventures" will only be the new trial chambers.
yeah, im hoping a lot for this to come because i think they are very good changes, but there is no real evidence for these features coming to 1.21, to me it would make sense but right now we have not even a hint, just the word combat
@@beefox__ yeah, it feels like 1 v 2+ are impossible with these changes, significantly lowering the skill ceiling and a much larger focus in reach makes it so you'll have to focus on making sure your enemy stays at a certain comfortable range, which is way harder to do when there's two players.
I hold the fairly unpopular opinion that combat update combat is much better than the older system of just clicking as fast as you can. I like the Rock-Paper-Scissors aspect of the sword shield and ax. I do not understand why people like the annoying spam-combat of older versions, and I wish servers would just use the combat update so I can use my sword-and-shield combo.
I agree, 1.8 is basically how fast you can click, 1.9 is more strategy and timing, it’s just better and seems more developed than the stupid “just click super fast”
For so long, I've wanted the trident to be better than what it was. I was kinda tired of using a sword or axe, but I had no incentive to use the trident when a sword or axe was way better. Now that there is an incentive, I'm gonna use a trident way more often. Just add an easier method of obtaining it in Java and it's perfect.
@@fj094t58qjf On Bedrock, perhaps, but not on Java. The percentage of Drowned dropping tridents is different between versions, and only Drowned that are physically holding tridents can drop them on Java.
@@ShayTheValiantthat's the same for bedrock, only drowned holding Tridents have a chance to drop them when killed. But there are ways, or at least used to be ways on bedrock, to cycle the nautilus shells through the farm, and when the drowned with the Trident picked up two of them it would drop a Trident every time. Not sure if that was a bug or is a feature.
I always carry a Trident, less for combat and more for the riptide enchantment. It's easier to control getting around a base or farm than rockets. They really need to include looting on axes and Tridents though, to make them a viable option for regular mob killing
@@danielwise5998 On Bedrock, all Drowned used to have the chance of dropping a trident, not just the ones holding one. They've changed it since then, but they are still more likely to spawn with one AND more likely to drop it on Bedrock than on Java. And Drowned trading their tridents for nautilus shells is also only on Bedrock. And I agree, tridents and axes should have Looting, and Sharpness for tridents as well.
idk i think pvp wise u will have players pvping 1 on 1 for a good 10 mins striaght without anyone dying which is just overkill at that point on defensive stats and combat situations with specific item sets and what u can have in the hotbar to easily switch to in combat. i think in a solo survival world it would work well but pvp wise with other players, its time consuming and makes people way tok defense thus making it easier anyway becayse people now essentially have tanky builds and armour sets and OP items to easily switch to on their hotbar.
@@argenfargen i would qgree that potion cooldown would be a good balance but i dont think on its own, it will be enough and will need assistance from something else to make it balanced.
I loved all (or most) of the changes from Jeb's passion combat update 2.0. I really hope these make it into the game someday (especially the sweeping edge thing, because I hate killing a bunch of cows with my sword when I only wanted to kill one).
Some other changes I'd like to see are bringing back sword blocking, making Tridents have the same attack speed as swords when in water/rain, putting Tridents back up to 8 attack damage to match Bedrock, actually changing the range that arrows are shot with bows and crossbows (possibly Bedrock could adopt the bow range from Java, and Java could adopt the crossbow range from Bedrock), more enchantments for the newer weapons, and maybe 1 or 2 new weapons (daggers would be nice).
I think sword blocking should be reworked as parrying, where for a short window anybody who attacks you is "disarmed" and can't attack with their sword for .2 seconds
@@IsiahM that's honestly an amazing idea, Idk if they'd do it with PvP though. You never know though, and it definitely could make pve a lot more interesting
I think, they should make the fletching tables use to make iron, diamond, etc arrows were they are slower to shoot built overall higher dps than regular arrows. Also, they could make tnt arrows which I saw in a video once. Lastly, they I guess could also make elemental arrows like fire or ice arrows that set an enemy on fire or freezes them like powdered snow.
It’s good that they’re making the combat better but if I don’t see more changes to older items I’ll be dissatisfied with Mojang. A lot of combat changes are already made as stated in the video so them adding more than just what is shown in that snapshot is feasible. Some tweaks to the systems and giving more thought is all that it’ll take to make the changes fully work. So many things can be tied with combat changes like enchanting, anvil’s and the fletcher table (just to name a few) that it would be hype asf if they update things with this update in mind. I also agree with making it so it doesn’t hinder a certain play style. If an RPG thing comes, they have to make sure they don’t take away from the base game of being a sandbox. If that doesn’t happen then I’d be 100% against the update as, while it’s creative and good for an RPG, that is not what Minecraft is. It will always be a sandbox game and I think so many, even the devs, forget that fact.
calling it just a sandbox game does not seem logical to me, minecraft is at its core a sandbox game but definently not limited to just sandbox at all. People play minecraft sometimes exlusively for its pvp community, not for the sandbox elements of mc. every player is unique and so adding things which appeal to every playstyle is very important.
I think you misunderstood the live. Thay said they want to do combat ADVENTURE, and yes while combat update would be really nice they did not commit to it and the fact they did not say it in face means it's not a priority of that update
It would be cool if there was a unique weapon in the Trial Chambers, like a scythe. In 1.18 I heard how the ancient cities would have a unique item, and I always wanted it to be a new weapon
I would love for Mojang to add a full variety of weapons to allow different combat styles, almost like RPG classes. For example, a Mace or Hammer, slow but with strong Knockback properties, a wizard’s Staff for ranged magical spells, Daggers could be low range but dipped in poison, etc. Minecraft was already designed around the classical RPG framework, it would be nice for the combat system to flesh that out more.
Horses in boats, beautiful green grass in shattered savannah... I will never forget what they have taken from us, though I still appreciate what we have been given.
My idea is to add the quiver, not only to hold different types of arrows, but also to shoot two arrows at the same time (it could be two of the same type of arrow or two different types of arrows).
to branch off from that idea, i feel like if u have the multishot on the crossbow, it now adds 3 new hotbar slots specifically for arrows to go into so whatever arrows u put in those hotbar slots will fore one of each of those arrows in the 3 slots. so u can have a poison arrow in the 1st slot which when shot, shoots always on the left, the 2nd arrow being slowness which shoots straight forward and the 3rd being normal arrows which shoots to the right and at any point u can switch those positions around to best suit which direction u want to shoot them from. this way it gives the multishot enchantment a unique ability and doesnt take up an essential inventory slot in which something more important can go there. crossbows are typically slow at reloading and multishot is very situational ecspecially in a solo survival world so giving it a unqiue benefit that doesnt make it OP but more of a balanced, viable enchantment, would then mean it would be used more and is more optional then just a last pick choice enchantment on a crossbow.
I think if the quiver if it was to be added to allow up to lets say 5 stacks of arrows without taking up inventory space, which could also allow room for your bow when you dont need it out
in terms of enchantments, and "specialized weapons" like you were talking about, I think the best way would be some kind of skill tree-like format. You should have to make choices between different options as you progress through enchanting something, and this unlocks paths to new enchantments later on. In between the points where you have to choose, there would be enchantment upgrades that can only be positive to break it up, like increasing the level of sharpness. This way there would be a few different maxed-out versions of each weapon or armor piece which all have different advantages, uses and quirks that fit a situation or playstyle. A sword could be tailored towards better overall damage, reach, area of effect, or damage over time (like fire aspect), while a bow could have a path with better range and accuracy, vs one with higher fire rate and knockback. idk im just spitballing but something like this could be cool and feel more diverse.
Or maybe you can upgrade your enchanting table to have different stats, and if you have multiple, it could be like a beacon where you have all abilities from it
I hope they add functionality to different tools to make them viable for combat in niche circumstances. Maybe the shovel could attack the slowest but do extra knockback, and the hoe could be a low damage, short range, fast attack cooldown weapon like a dagger
Actually in the Test Snapshots the Hoe was the fastest swinging Tool with equal range to the *Trident* (for some reason?) with the lowest Damage, and Jeb was considering making them into proper Weapons.
i think at least for the hoe, due to it dealing the weakest damage in terms of weapon tools, it should negate the cooldown entirely or at least cause a bleeding affect for 3 seconds which ticks 1dmg per second. it gives it a slightly better use in combat but still keeps it more focused on it being used more for farming than actual combat.
Tinkers Construct's rapier, with the blocking replaced with a movement tech, and letting you attack mobs up to 10 times per second that also ignores i frames. Downside is you can't use a shield as the rapier's rightclick overrides the shield so you really go all or nothing here. It also bypasses armor but that's a bit much here
@@semi-useful5178 I like that dagger idea, backstab crits would fit the theme of the weapon, and it would encourage even more movement in PvP and maybe the use of speed potions
I'd be shocked if the combat changes don't come in this update also at 13:09 I don't think you mentioned the other thing that made the faster drinking/eating time important is that in the combat tests, if you get attacked by a player or mob while eating/drinking it gets interrupted, forcing you to start the eating animation again (so it's harder to eat a gapple or something in the middle of battle)
I think that the hunger system needs to be worked on because this makes saturation slightly redundant. I think eating speeds should be different for all foods, otherwise why would we eat anything else but the food that gives the most hunger points?
i never got why they didn't bring the combat changes to bedrock. it feels WAY less user friendly to have to spam right trigger or tap the screen as fast as you can to deal the most damage. to me, it would make more sense if the changes were exclusive to bedrock, and java edition kept the old 1.8 style combat mechanics, because clicking fast with a mouse is way easier.
16:12 "Destract all the people who would be mad at the combat change with a mob vote cause everyone who would be mad about that can be mad at the mob vote instead" I couldnt have said it better myself!
Imma say it, for the 10 or so years I’ve known and played Minecraft, I never got the 1.9 hate. Sure, it has its kinks like every new update does, but it was fundamentally a positive. The off hand, the shield, and changing high damage spamming to a cool down are great additions. That being said, this new update for sure adds a better implementation of past features.
For some reason I have this obsession with the idea of a gauntlets type weapon being added to the game. Taking up both mainhand and offhand as a drawback for it's nutty amount of attack speed, medium amount of damage but low amount of reach. Maybe you could even make it different by halfing the normal invincibility frames, allowing you to rack up damage rlly fast. I have a few enchantment ideas as well, likr stunning and combo which allow you to temporarily paralyze entities and make punching with the gauntlets fully automatic and slowly gains attack speed by getting hits consistently respectively. Missing a hit would stop the combo though so you don't just keep momentum. The gauntlets also only automatically attack when you get a hit prior. Ok maybe uppercut could be an enchantment as well. Ok honestly i think combat in Minecraft has so much potential and I'm really excited to see where they go with this update. Maybeee they add new weapons???
Things I think Mojang should add this update. 1. A new weapon. In the same sense as the trident, a weapon that can only be obtained one way, I think they should do the same for trial shambers. Maybe a staff that shoots wind projectiles? Or maybe a greatsword with big damage and reach but very slow swing speed. Either way, adding a new weapon would make a reason players would seek out the trial chambers in the first place instead of more music discs or craftable gear and loot. 2. Locked chests. Having seen mojang add a key as an item drop from trial spawners really has people going crazy about what it is for. My idea is that it will be used for specific locked chests that are tuffer to break and work similarly to shulker boxes but needs the key to be opened. This would prevent players from rushing through, grabbing the loot and running without fighting. These chests could also house a new weapon inside like suggested earlier. 3. Banner map markers. This I definitely think should be added to bedrock from java. It allows players to mark and name areas on the map, and can be used for many purposes from adventuring, to labeling structures, to a guide to where you may had dungeon delved before perishing. 4. New poison skeleton designs. When I heard that skeletons would shoot poisoned arrows I was a little disappointed when I saw that they were just skeletons weilding poison arrows. A new skeleton mob would be so much better as it would have a specific design that is distinctive, similar to the stray, husk, and drowned, making you know what type of zombie they were before getting attacked. 5. A new boss. In a combat update there should definitely be a new boss to be added. My idea is something with a copper or tuff aesthetic to fit with the trial chambers. Maybe something similar to redstone golems from minecraft dungeons. Any of these ideas implemented would make this update feel more of a 8 or 9 out of 10 to me while it currently is sitting at a 7/10 for me.
@@Error-yk8cf True bro I've no clipped out of the world at least 4 times haha. Not to mention Enderman laying you on your a** when you never even saw one. And I can't forget the infamous controller disconnect either lmao
i love everything about this update , but my one issue is that a sword is nearly vital to kill the ender dragon, , i should be able to beat the big bad of minecraft with a wepon of my choice
The problem with different weapons having different reach is it pretty much makes every fight inconsistent. Imagine hitting 3.5 blocks then suddenly 3 and then 3 and then 3.5. Or imagine someone in a pvp game mode has a trident and you have a sword then all they have to do is sit in a corner with their 4 block reach and you can’t do anything because you can’t get close enough because the sword can’t reach far enough.
Definitely need a two handed enchantment for the sword. It takes up both slots, has a slower attack speed, but has increased damage and reach and sweeping edge is more effective against mobs at the edge of your swing.
I think we need diferent potions, like a potion of vulnerability (take more damage, no shield, but short time length), or a potion of wieght that stops someone from jumping but requires netherite scraps to get any decent time length. A potion of shocking would also be cool, it would deal a bit of armor penetrating damage and disable your opponents weapon for a split second, which could be really useful for going into a combo. and if you drink shocking through a normal bottle, you can apply the effect to other people by hitting them (instant effect on self, but can apply a weaker effect to targets)
The main reason I see people using the saturation regen boost is to survive fire/wither/etc when low health but not quite dead, I wonder if the regen rate change will be enough for that case
It should be fast like in java when you have are below 3 hearts up to 5 hearts so that it becomes better during pvp and pve but much slower after you have more than 5 heartd
i never really used saturation myself so i guess getting rid of it would add the difficulty spike but on its own can be worked around and negated anyway down the line and some alternative way would just replace it making the difficulty barely ramp up. i personally think the harder the mode, the more hp and dmg certain mobs do usually the common mobs like the zombies and drowned. as to not make it too difficult, get rid of hostile mobs like the zombies and skeletons being able to wear armour, make enchants and zombies with swords on mobs and skeletons quite rare for those mobs to soawn with so if the mob drops the item, u dont get something OP or decent enough at such an early point in the game. even then if armour on these mobs were to stay, they should at least only have the mobs were one piece of armour clothing not multiple, so getting free sets of enchanted gear without the need of enchants is not easy to obtain. id say about as rare as a normal fishing rod being able to have the chance to fish out an enchanted book and for only specific enchants to be found on the armour to stop it being OP or to skip progress but still be optional to wear if someone manages to obtain one early on.
I would be all for all of the potion and food changes in this. Actually making potions useful, and not just clogging your inventory seems like a good change. Because of how saturation works right now, theres pretty much no use in carrying healing or regen potions if you just had any food really. Especially things like Golden Carrots or Steaks.
I like these changes actually. I don't see any faults with them. Sure, it would take time to getting used to, but that's ok. My only question is: how will it affect golden carrots as a food source?
The fault with snowball 64 stacks is that mass storage redstone devices wont work anymore. It need thousands of 16 stacked items and people have been using snowballs for ages now
@@curtisevans8413 enderpearls have been used to sort things such as snow balls and eggs but i guess signs can be used for it aswell. Its only bad for me since snowball farms are easy to build and also really cheap
The bedrock healing is the thing that sucks the most, so it's good that if this comes out, as well as redstone and farming (Java has sooooo much better farms and redstone contraptions)
I think cooldowns and reach for weapons is awesome. And I do agree that Mojang could add many other kind of weapons each wither their own reach, attack speed, and damage. But that also leads into more enchantments or armors that have special effects. I say go for it.
I would love for Mojang to let us toggle off player name visibility through walls. Seeing players through walls has always broken my immersion and annoyed me, and it greatly limits the type of PVP games we can make.
It might just be the medieval nerd in me speaking, but I love the idea of new weapons, maybe not halberds, but spears definitely. Now I'm just spit balling, maybe add two handed variants, sword with more reach and damage, axe with more damage, a spear with too much reach, but you lose access to your offhand, so no shield, or a timed block. Maybe a wee too complex for cube game tho.
Nah I could totally see what you mean. Like a jab attack with a spear which takes the shield out of view while doing the attack and shows a split second cooldown on its item box. After the quick cooldown, the shield would come back into view in the offhand again and be able to block.
Minecraft dungeons ideas should just be adapted for Minecraft. All the awesome mobs, weapons, enchantments, armor, artifacts, all make up a actually really good combat system and would perfectly fill the holes found in Minecraft’s combat system.
I’ve been away from following Minecraft updates for ages. I’m purely here to revisit this channel after following it for a long time just to see the outro, and my entire emotional vessel was not ready to hear a calm C418 Sweden cover, but I love it. Also nice signboards animations, they’re pretty fancy!
Stacking potions will add a great level of convenience, even past combat-related changes. For me personally, its really annoying having to carry 4-6 individual night vision potions whenever I go mining or exploring underwater. Those inventory slots fill up fast 😅
I'm especially excited for different reaches per weapon. Though I hesitate to believe these changes are the changes they intend to implement. I'm would be so excited to be proven wrong.
@@apuji7555 they are. This is the same snap shot that was worked on a few years ago and have not seen any updates since. I do hope these changes are implemented.
We should get new types of weapons like a bow and throwable weapons (like the trident but something different) with the new combat system to make the update more physical instead of just technical. These weapons could be charged up like Krato's axe that can charge up with ice in God of War. It would bring more depth to the update too I believe
kind of reminds me of cult of lamb some weapons like the hammer are slow but do a lot of damage and also have a big area of effect but some things like daggers act quickly but do low damage
The sweeping in normal java Minecraft would only sweep when you hit a entity meaning that if you have sweeping edge you don't need to aim directly for your enemy in the snapshot
I was thinking of the Smithing Table as a place to adjust and rebalance weapon stats (damage, speed, reach) but it got its functionality. Maybe some kind of new crafting station could do that.
not a bad call actually. i dont think the increases should be at all significant to prevent weapons becoming OP but i do think if certain enchantments were swapped in to make stat boosters like sharpness in a fletching table or u can slightly alter a weapon to maybe swing just a tad faster or get that 1 extra hit point of dmg or crit dmg, while restricting how many times u can modfiy the weapons and what specific things can be used to modify these weapons, i think that would be a cool way to go and even adds in more enchantment capabilites as well. the alternative to thos would be to give weapons 1 unique ability that it can use. maybe a sword can deal a bleeding affect on mobs for a extra second being 1 or two ticks of 1dmg, maybe bows can cause mini aoe explosion dmg when it hits a mob but doesnt destory blocks. the trident can be thrown in mid air during a rainstorm a 2nd time to stay airbourne without the use of an elytra and gain a bit more distance more easily. stuff like this would be neat.
@@Arronic Thinking of mostly a trade-off system where there is still inherent advantage to higher-tier materials but for example, specializing an iron sword to have netherite damage and less reach.
Stackable potions are my favorite! I always wanted an excuse to brew all kinds of potions, but you need to fill too much of your inventory with just potions to make using them viable while exploring. This way i can have a single shulker with stacks of every potion i could need!
i really like the idea that they could add different kinds of shelds. they could have a copper sheld that is kinda tiny and won't block as much but has more durability and cant be cleaved or a gold sheld that blacks a lot but has really low deribility (also cant be cleaved). i also think it would be great to have a sheld inchantment that would automatically block for you based on the enchantment level: 1-25% 2-50% 3-70%.
if this isn't already added, maybe mojang could add a setting somewhere for if the potion bottle goes to your inventory after drinking, or dropping on the ground.
Something that I've been hoping for are alternatives to netherite. I like netherite but imagine if you had 2-3 different options so you could choose how to upgrade your diamond gear
I feel like if we get a cool down the mobs need a cooldown and a animation to tell you when it is going to hit cause my problem in bedrock is I have no Time to get out of a hoard of zombies
I never even knew these combat snapshots were a thing. As a bedrock player, an update like this would completely justify and make it worth adding cooldowns to our weapons. Even in the state it’s currently in I’d want this on my game, I love these changes
One more change they should have; a new enchant for tridents to make them deal more damage. other than that, this update has redeemed itself faster than 1.20!
IIRC they also mentioned making some parity changes to Tridents so that Java can have stuff like Impaling being increased damage to anything mobs in water or rain instead of just to water mobs on Java and tridents with Loyalty not getting deleted if you yeet them into the void
20:10 "Or has it gotten to the point where Minecraft discourse, and maybe internet and video game discourse as a whole, has gotten to this stage where people would much rather complain than say things that are actually valid and, indeed, constructive" Hit the nail right on the head there! And not just with Minecraft related discourse - as you briefly mentioned, this happens across the board with video game discourse. People will look at something, decide they don't like it, and refuse to offer any solutions to the situation.
I’ve noticed you stepping up the editing Toycat! Great work, I’m loving it. :D Don’t take this as pressure to continue such though in case it becomes too much work. I’ll be here for your content no matter what bro. ❤
They should add a scythe or something for the cooldown 1.9 combat and allow swords to be spam clicked, that way players can play with whatever they are better with, this would be easier to balnce between the two since its 2 different items
I think if they plan on adding more weapon modifying enchantments then they ought to give them some visual indicators. It isn’t much but it allows other plays to engage in combat with a little more knowledge of what they’re getting into, plus it could just look cool
They need to mix the two current systems together Make it so swords work how they are on java (timing) Then add daggers, make them do less damage, but work like Bedrock (spamming) That, some quality of life changes, and a few new changes is all they need, they don't have to overhaul everything
It would be my dream if you could have extra effects if you are in a higher XP level, because now for example there is no difference in the gameplay between level 30 and level 1000
daggers would be cool. i can see then being used in quick sucession and simutaniously one after the other with a half second cooldown and an enchant to have a poisoned tip on the daggers or adding sharpness to it just to increase the damage slightly.
The thing is pvp; 1.8 or 1.21 is all about timing and range anyways, if you are too close the opponent can hit you back too (therefore resulting in not being able to Combo) , on the other hand if you are too far you won’t be able to hit the other guy, and as for timing.. well even 1.8 has timing on bedrock for example, there are 2 cps combos; and spam combos, and depending on the other persons ping a certain amount of cps matters. It will be interesting to know how bedrock players will react/ get to know, the new pvp especially without any past experience with 1.9+ pvp. Since I have a few freinds that don’t understand it at all, cause they have played bedrock up until now.
@@garrynewman6211 Well yeah. I remember when these were released. I've been playing MC for 12 years, I keep up with everything. Even toycat in the video said these are from a few years ago, he just clickbaited and made it seem new.
There should be an weapon enchantment that buffs range and damage, but doesn't allow you to use your offhand. It would be a cool tradeoff, and it's thematic to have a two-handed weapon
Being able to stack potions actually makes them viable to bring around. Being only able to carry 1 means its too inconvenient to have to go into your inventory mid pvp to get another potion so you'd just have the one potion. They'd just take up so much room for little help
yeah but its sad its not splash pots to, hopefully maybe they make those stackable 2
@@AxolotlTGTthe only problem with that is spamming instant damage and weakness on people really easily
@@ineophobethe maximum amount of potions in a Slot should be 2 or 3
@@ineophobethe only way I could see these things being handled is to massively nerf and buff potions, especially towards splash & lingering; & maybe that they get a cool down similar to enderpearls after using one.
@@AxolotlTGT stackable splash potions would be too OP having stackable instant damage 2 would be so overpowered you could spam like 5 of them out in a second. Which would mean weapons are useless in pvp
I really hope they add more weapons. having different kinds of weapons would make it that much more of a combat update, even adding weapon stands for more decorative options fitting exactly what Minecraft is all about.
Hell yeah
A scoped crossbow. Basic concepts of muskets. With bayonet options. Could also be used as a blunderbust grenade launcher which fires TNT blocks.
I hope they add new melee weapons than always using sword and axe
or make the tools effective weapons. personally, I think hoes should get to attack the fastest at the very least.
@@KeyboardTarantulathey already do attack the fastest, and the netherite hoe for some reason has an attack speed of 2.
They just haven't added any way to deal damage with it
bow straightness should be an enchantment like "sharpshooter" with three levels
bros cooking i need this immediately
Enchantments need an overhaul as a whole first imo.
@@Palladiumavoidthey’re already the default tho i just need anything man bows get no love
decent idea. personally though, i would see havig bows early game at that point redundant and ineffective, ecspecially when they lose enough accuracy. u might as well switch to the trident at that point for ranged damage until u get hold of the enchantment for the bows and can put it on later in the game. i thinks its a cool concept but would likely be poorly executed.
Accuracy
I really hope the Combat Test experiments come to fruition soon. I’m glad you’re still talking about it. I thought it would be forgotten.
I hope so too! Could understand dialing back some of them but the base ideas are too solid to scrap I think
@@toycat I feel like the bow and cool down for projectiles should not happen
@@toycat day 2 of petitioning Adventures and Artificers (as a name. I dont have social media, so i cant reccomend it...)
@@toycat I do remember when people were talking about the old combat style and how they changed it and it made people upset about hopefully they can make it better.
@@toycat I'm pretty sure "Combat and Adventures" is their way of saying "dungeon-like gameplay & new mobs", so only new things, nothing changed.
You forgot to mention my favourite change. The trident impaling enchantment matches parity to bedrock where it deals bonus damage to every underwater mob not just squids, dolphins, and turtles (why would you want this?) but on top of that they're making it that impaling deals extra damage to any mob when it is raining or thundering.
So with a trident you really feel like a god of the seas, and I feel they really need other weapons like the trident for other elements, like maybe a scythe for the Nether that has enchantments that allow you to deal more damage to mobs in the Nether (Fire) , maybe a dagger or something for the End (Air), and then maybe like a staff or hammer that can be found underground (Earth) all with associated enchantments
Damn they finally changed the java impaling??
i always wanted them to add more "special" items. Not to mention a bunch of new enchantments that would just make sense. Frost for swords like Flame. Or Lava Walker that acts like Frost Walker but leaves temporary gravel/cobble or something to allow you to walk on lava. Just so much variety missing especially when you've seen what they could add from their other games like Dungeons or Legends
the whole turf advantage thing really becomes a part of combat. combine that with pvping in a mountain with tons of powdered snow, another way that one person can have turf advantage by using leather boots
It's still situational at best. It always feels like I'm better off with a sword and a bow than a Trident
@@Knucklebreaking I think it's down to preference. I love feeling like a child of Poseidon himself, always maxing out my gear with every water enchantment like deapthstrider, respiration, etc
The worst thing about the 1.9 update is that swords without sweeping hit multiple entities. There's nothing more infuriating than hitting your friend when trying to fight mobs together, even if you didn't click on them.
There is a game rule for turning friendly fire off, but that also turns off all forms of pvp.
if this update rolls around, they should update the sweeping edge enchantment to never hit other players or tamed animals.
just use an axe
Do note that if you are in air, it doesn't sweep. That's what you should be doing anyways since you crit while falling.
Just don't use swords, as it is right now axes are by far the better option and having the sweeping on unenchanted stone swords is great for mob grinders
Splash and lingering potions should stack as well, but have a cool-down so you can't spam instant damage potions to win immediately.
yeah like ender pearls
yeahhh i was thinking about that, but more significant of a cooldown like 5 second? in mcdungeons your healing potion is unlimited but have a big cooldown. that should fit the throwable potions
nah, i dont think cooldown is needed, potions are already a hassel for a lot of people to get, and are consumable items, they should make it so potions are stronger than swords, so they have a reason to be used, being strong but at the same time more inconvenient and not infinite
Splash potions are kinda hard to aim, since you could get hit yourself. Too many times, I throw a splash of poison on myself
@@fj094t58qjf fair enoughhh yeaaa
They should have the trial chambers as a combat tutorial of sorts, teaching you the mechanics like they did with the igloos curable zombie!
Bad idea, i don't wand a bunch of tutorials lvls spawning in my world i want a challenge and too get good loot. Not something a tutorial will have
Huh? The igloo has a curable zombie?
@@egbert5871it’s not a direct tutorial. Igloos teach you about the curing and give good loot. I think he is suggesting they will focus on a large group of small enemies until you figure out the best way to deal with that, or how to block by introducing a heavy hitting mob that can be shielded like a creeper. Same difficulty just with more purpose. I’m all for it
@@Churros_are_Overrated so... nothing needs to change it will do that as lol. also i had no ide igloos teach you anything . But that will happen with it being hard so still a whatever hope
@@Churros_are_Overrated so a raid. Fits that well the big Ravagers def want to block that ,lot of enamies in big groups and has enamies you want to take out first (witches and the vex summoning enamies. Also the trials seem to already have that big swarms spaed poison arrows hurt as well
I love these changes, but I hope they finally also add some use to the fletching table. That and add the bundles
I actually have an idea. So a fletching table can add a modification to a bow using an ore. So coal gives a chance for an arrow to set a mob on fire AND a block on fire (kinda like a better form of flame) and can stack. Iron gives 1 more base damage and 100 more durability, gold gives a 40% drawing boost, lapis having a set chance to slow down enemies, redstone having a visible trajectory (like a dotted line so you kno if your arrow is gonna land on the specific mob or block you want to hit), copper gives a chance of wither damage as like rust damage, diamond having 2 extra base damage and 200 durability and netherite with 3 and 300. You can add 2 enhancments to the bow and crossbow but coal, gold, lapis, redstone and copper has a 70% chance to use 2 durability and 30% chance to use 3 and iron, diamond and netherite cant be used together. Repairing a bow or crossbow with enhancements need 2 of each material (except for diamond and ancient debris) per 100 durability or just use anvils but the fletching table doesnt use xp to fix it so you can fix it infinitely by only using some materials.
bundles are way more useful than people think. there's so many small items i pick up while exploring that i only find one or two of, and they take up so much inventory space. having bundles helps a lot
@@squidwardlegends2950simpler idea: just give it a smithing table-like interface with a slot for arrows and another slot for potions so we can finally tip arrows without having to beat the dragon. make it so you can only stack 8 arrows in a slot at a time so it's not overpowered, and the potion gets used up, leaving an empty bottle.
@@duckified. fletcher villagers exist. You can just trade with them for potion tipped arrows. Plus bedrock has the cauldron
@@duckified. fr, like, they promised us it, and since its such a useful feature, they should prioritize developing it
i do like that they aren't removing cooldown on Java. i started playing right after the update so it's all i've ever known. i only play single player so i use it for EvP, and it's in all my strategies. it's nice they are adding alternative option for it, though. i feel like a bit of both is good for each version.
i hope they finally make the trident useful on Java too, if i recall, it's a lot more powered on Bedrock, and i would use it if it was better than a netherite sword under water, but it isn't, and it definitely should be.
i love the idea of daggers too, could be of use especially when mobs trap you in a corner and you need to stab your way out fast lmao
The trident really shines on smps where the end is outlawed, in that setting it is the fastest means of transportation that dosen't need Infrastructure, (and watching people learn to pick up and take a bucket of water with them to make it truly independent of any in world needs is amazing)
I don’t like how they changed how nonfull hits have less reach which could possibly completely destroy the sword community and the stackable potions r like super op and all these changes could possibly destroy the pvp community but idk
@@connorschultz380 just imagine an smp that doesnt even have the nether, and only one trident on the server...
I love the idea of daggers
Java has a huge advantage over bedrock anyways. Instead of moving bedrock features to java move java features to bedrock. And before you ask I am a java player.
I think this combat update is AMAZING! They made the decision between weapons way less straight forward, buffed potions to the point to where they could actually be worth making in PvE, AND made regen way more manageable! But if there was one change I could make in this update, it would be to change anvils. Making repairs not add to the enchantment cost would probably work as a nerf to mending, expecaily on infinity bows. Also, there shouldnt be a limit to how much you can enchant things, it just ruins enchanting for me.
agreed.if it takes 4k levels to heal my diamond sword, so be it. I'll use it after 16 months of villager trading.
@@KeyboardTarantula ong I dont wanna have to formulate complex mathematical equations just to be able to get fortune and efficiency 5 on my pickaxe
@@bananar1403fr, just let me keep adding enchantments
U said the weapon choosing is straight forward but its not rly. Axe can be better then sword if you know what youre doing and sword can be better then axe
Me too. Especially the healing for bedrock, since it was really hard to heal before.
I feel like this is a very big assumption that the "Combat Adventures" will be adding the combat snapshot type combat. I have a feeling that the only thing in this new update that will be related to the "Combat Adventures" will only be the new trial chambers.
Yeah, and the combat tests look like they currently suffer from making everything slightly more glass cannon-y
yeah, im hoping a lot for this to come because i think they are very good changes, but there is no real evidence for these features coming to 1.21, to me it would make sense but right now we have not even a hint, just the word combat
with how they changed potion stacking & effectiveness, idk about that @@palmberry5576
and the dog armor
@@beefox__ yeah, it feels like 1 v 2+ are impossible with these changes, significantly lowering the skill ceiling and a much larger focus in reach makes it so you'll have to focus on making sure your enemy stays at a certain comfortable range, which is way harder to do when there's two players.
I hold the fairly unpopular opinion that combat update combat is much better than the older system of just clicking as fast as you can. I like the Rock-Paper-Scissors aspect of the sword shield and ax. I do not understand why people like the annoying spam-combat of older versions, and I wish servers would just use the combat update so I can use my sword-and-shield combo.
Because you can bind scroll-down to left click with a macro and buy one of those mice with free spinning scroll wheel
I agree, 1.8 is basically how fast you can click, 1.9 is more strategy and timing, it’s just better and seems more developed than the stupid “just click super fast”
I hugely like the Combat Snapshots
People just don't like change.
@@semi-useful5178its been years
For so long, I've wanted the trident to be better than what it was. I was kinda tired of using a sword or axe, but I had no incentive to use the trident when a sword or axe was way better. Now that there is an incentive, I'm gonna use a trident way more often. Just add an easier method of obtaining it in Java and it's perfect.
a drowned farm give you a lot of tridents
@@fj094t58qjf On Bedrock, perhaps, but not on Java. The percentage of Drowned dropping tridents is different between versions, and only Drowned that are physically holding tridents can drop them on Java.
@@ShayTheValiantthat's the same for bedrock, only drowned holding Tridents have a chance to drop them when killed. But there are ways, or at least used to be ways on bedrock, to cycle the nautilus shells through the farm, and when the drowned with the Trident picked up two of them it would drop a Trident every time. Not sure if that was a bug or is a feature.
I always carry a Trident, less for combat and more for the riptide enchantment. It's easier to control getting around a base or farm than rockets. They really need to include looting on axes and Tridents though, to make them a viable option for regular mob killing
@@danielwise5998 On Bedrock, all Drowned used to have the chance of dropping a trident, not just the ones holding one. They've changed it since then, but they are still more likely to spawn with one AND more likely to drop it on Bedrock than on Java. And Drowned trading their tridents for nautilus shells is also only on Bedrock. And I agree, tridents and axes should have Looting, and Sharpness for tridents as well.
stackable potions will change the game for the better
idk i think pvp wise u will have players pvping 1 on 1 for a good 10 mins striaght without anyone dying which is just overkill at that point on defensive stats and combat situations with specific item sets and what u can have in the hotbar to easily switch to in combat. i think in a solo survival world it would work well but pvp wise with other players, its time consuming and makes people way tok defense thus making it easier anyway becayse people now essentially have tanky builds and armour sets and OP items to easily switch to on their hotbar.
It would make me actually interested in using them
@@unboxing_legend7708 also volution, potion consumption cool down
@@argenfargen i would qgree that potion cooldown would be a good balance but i dont think on its own, it will be enough and will need assistance from something else to make it balanced.
@@unboxing_legend7708 apparently nerfing food isn't enough to you.
I loved all (or most) of the changes from Jeb's passion combat update 2.0.
I really hope these make it into the game someday (especially the sweeping edge thing, because I hate killing a bunch of cows with my sword when I only wanted to kill one).
Some other changes I'd like to see are bringing back sword blocking, making Tridents have the same attack speed as swords when in water/rain, putting Tridents back up to 8 attack damage to match Bedrock, actually changing the range that arrows are shot with bows and crossbows (possibly Bedrock could adopt the bow range from Java, and Java could adopt the crossbow range from Bedrock), more enchantments for the newer weapons, and maybe 1 or 2 new weapons (daggers would be nice).
I think sword blocking should be reworked as parrying, where for a short window anybody who attacks you is "disarmed" and can't attack with their sword for .2 seconds
@@IsiahMwould love to see timed parrying in mc. I feel like it'd be great in pve and open up the possibility to more boss fights.
Wait so did they only nerf the java tridents??
@@IsiahM that's honestly an amazing idea, Idk if they'd do it with PvP though. You never know though, and it definitely could make pve a lot more interesting
@@krihs_krihs yeah, in the snapshot Toycat is showing they lowered the attack damage to 7 and changed the attack speed
I think, they should make the fletching tables use to make iron, diamond, etc arrows were they are slower to shoot built overall higher dps than regular arrows. Also, they could make tnt arrows which I saw in a video once. Lastly, they I guess could also make elemental arrows like fire or ice arrows that set an enemy on fire or freezes them like powdered snow.
Well while they're at it make bows be able to be combined with netherite as well, it's crazy you can't make a netherite bow tbh
The flame enchantment exists as well as arrows of slowness. But I like the idea
Ricoshet arrow made with slime coudl be fun addition
i want my rapid crossbow
fletching table isn’t ever getting a use.
It’s good that they’re making the combat better but if I don’t see more changes to older items I’ll be dissatisfied with Mojang. A lot of combat changes are already made as stated in the video so them adding more than just what is shown in that snapshot is feasible. Some tweaks to the systems and giving more thought is all that it’ll take to make the changes fully work.
So many things can be tied with combat changes like enchanting, anvil’s and the fletcher table (just to name a few) that it would be hype asf if they update things with this update in mind.
I also agree with making it so it doesn’t hinder a certain play style. If an RPG thing comes, they have to make sure they don’t take away from the base game of being a sandbox. If that doesn’t happen then I’d be 100% against the update as, while it’s creative and good for an RPG, that is not what Minecraft is. It will always be a sandbox game and I think so many, even the devs, forget that fact.
Bro u don’t have to write an essay abt a block game for 9year olds 💀
@@TheoJanisch-cq1vd
- 3 tiny paragraphs
- "essay"
calling it just a sandbox game does not seem logical to me, minecraft is at its core a sandbox game but definently not limited to just sandbox at all. People play minecraft sometimes exlusively for its pvp community, not for the sandbox elements of mc. every player is unique and so adding things which appeal to every playstyle is very important.
Bro you dont have to reply dissing somebody for making a few paragraphs saying what he would enjoy about a game
@@TheoJanisch-cq1vdif you think thats an essay id like to hear your thoughts on college essays
I think you misunderstood the live. Thay said they want to do combat ADVENTURE, and yes while combat update would be really nice they did not commit to it and the fact they did not say it in face means it's not a priority of that update
It would be cool if there was a unique weapon in the Trial Chambers, like a scythe. In 1.18 I heard how the ancient cities would have a unique item, and I always wanted it to be a new weapon
When did they ever say ancient cities would have a unique weapon????
Its the echo shard
@@alexzgreat133we know
@@funnyduck4568he said he wanted it to be a weapon, not that it would be a weapon
echo blade
I would love for Mojang to add a full variety of weapons to allow different combat styles, almost like RPG classes. For example, a Mace or Hammer, slow but with strong Knockback properties, a wizard’s Staff for ranged magical spells, Daggers could be low range but dipped in poison, etc. Minecraft was already designed around the classical RPG framework, it would be nice for the combat system to flesh that out more.
Torch offhand, custom biomes, hardcore, amplified, map markers…
Horses in boats, beautiful green grass in shattered savannah... I will never forget what they have taken from us, though I still appreciate what we have been given.
Also dual wielding too like in java
My idea is to add the quiver, not only to hold different types of arrows, but also to shoot two arrows at the same time (it could be two of the same type of arrow or two different types of arrows).
you want a quiver with a functionality, I want a quiver bcz its cool and can feel like Hawkeye, we are not the same
to branch off from that idea, i feel like if u have the multishot on the crossbow, it now adds 3 new hotbar slots specifically for arrows to go into so whatever arrows u put in those hotbar slots will fore one of each of those arrows in the 3 slots. so u can have a poison arrow in the 1st slot which when shot, shoots always on the left, the 2nd arrow being slowness which shoots straight forward and the 3rd being normal arrows which shoots to the right and at any point u can switch those positions around to best suit which direction u want to shoot them from. this way it gives the multishot enchantment a unique ability and doesnt take up an essential inventory slot in which something more important can go there. crossbows are typically slow at reloading and multishot is very situational ecspecially in a solo survival world so giving it a unqiue benefit that doesnt make it OP but more of a balanced, viable enchantment, would then mean it would be used more and is more optional then just a last pick choice enchantment on a crossbow.
If the quiver gets added i wonder where they put the quiver slot
@@nur-aminjawad2035maybe it will just work like a bundle for arrows
I think if the quiver if it was to be added to allow up to lets say 5 stacks of arrows without taking up inventory space, which could also allow room for your bow when you dont need it out
in terms of enchantments, and "specialized weapons" like you were talking about, I think the best way would be some kind of skill tree-like format. You should have to make choices between different options as you progress through enchanting something, and this unlocks paths to new enchantments later on. In between the points where you have to choose, there would be enchantment upgrades that can only be positive to break it up, like increasing the level of sharpness. This way there would be a few different maxed-out versions of each weapon or armor piece which all have different advantages, uses and quirks that fit a situation or playstyle. A sword could be tailored towards better overall damage, reach, area of effect, or damage over time (like fire aspect), while a bow could have a path with better range and accuracy, vs one with higher fire rate and knockback. idk im just spitballing but something like this could be cool and feel more diverse.
Or maybe you can upgrade your enchanting table to have different stats, and if you have multiple, it could be like a beacon where you have all abilities from it
I hope they add functionality to different tools to make them viable for combat in niche circumstances. Maybe the shovel could attack the slowest but do extra knockback, and the hoe could be a low damage, short range, fast attack cooldown weapon like a dagger
I remember the 1.9 snapshot when the Hoe was the best weapon.
Actually in the Test Snapshots the Hoe was the fastest swinging Tool with equal range to the *Trident* (for some reason?) with the lowest Damage, and Jeb was considering making them into proper Weapons.
hoes are like a scythe which is why the reach was so high @@redyoshicraft
i think at least for the hoe, due to it dealing the weakest damage in terms of weapon tools, it should negate the cooldown entirely or at least cause a bleeding affect for 3 seconds which ticks 1dmg per second. it gives it a slightly better use in combat but still keeps it more focused on it being used more for farming than actual combat.
Kinda pointless if every tool has a third of the durability and takes double damage from hitting stuff.
They should add a new kind of weapon that acts EXCATLY like 1.7 swords (parring, quick clicking etc, etc,)
Dagger, the Tradeoff is that you need to hug the opponent, maybe gets crits from backstabs instead of jumping.
Tinkers Construct's rapier, with the blocking replaced with a movement tech, and letting you attack mobs up to 10 times per second that also ignores i frames. Downside is you can't use a shield as the rapier's rightclick overrides the shield so you really go all or nothing here. It also bypasses armor but that's a bit much here
@@semi-useful5178Meet the Spy
maybe like a rapier of some sort
@@semi-useful5178 I like that dagger idea, backstab crits would fit the theme of the weapon, and it would encourage even more movement in PvP and maybe the use of speed potions
I'd be shocked if the combat changes don't come in this update
also at 13:09 I don't think you mentioned the other thing that made the faster drinking/eating time important is that in the combat tests, if you get attacked by a player or mob while eating/drinking it gets interrupted, forcing you to start the eating animation again (so it's harder to eat a gapple or something in the middle of battle)
I think that the hunger system needs to be worked on because this makes saturation slightly redundant. I think eating speeds should be different for all foods, otherwise why would we eat anything else but the food that gives the most hunger points?
Would really hope sweeping edge comes to bedrock, seems fun to use
i never got why they didn't bring the combat changes to bedrock. it feels WAY less user friendly to have to spam right trigger or tap the screen as fast as you can to deal the most damage. to me, it would make more sense if the changes were exclusive to bedrock, and java edition kept the old 1.8 style combat mechanics, because clicking fast with a mouse is way easier.
16:12 "Destract all the people who would be mad at the combat change with a mob vote cause everyone who would be mad about that can be mad at the mob vote instead"
I couldnt have said it better myself!
Imma say it, for the 10 or so years I’ve known and played Minecraft, I never got the 1.9 hate. Sure, it has its kinks like every new update does, but it was fundamentally a positive. The off hand, the shield, and changing high damage spamming to a cool down are great additions.
That being said, this new update for sure adds a better implementation of past features.
I really hope someday they will add the feature to build above the bedrock in nether roof, that'll be a game changer for bedrock players.
For some reason I have this obsession with the idea of a gauntlets type weapon being added to the game. Taking up both mainhand and offhand as a drawback for it's nutty amount of attack speed, medium amount of damage but low amount of reach. Maybe you could even make it different by halfing the normal invincibility frames, allowing you to rack up damage rlly fast. I have a few enchantment ideas as well, likr stunning and combo which allow you to temporarily paralyze entities and make punching with the gauntlets fully automatic and slowly gains attack speed by getting hits consistently respectively. Missing a hit would stop the combo though so you don't just keep momentum. The gauntlets also only automatically attack when you get a hit prior. Ok maybe uppercut could be an enchantment as well. Ok honestly i think combat in Minecraft has so much potential and I'm really excited to see where they go with this update. Maybeee they add new weapons???
I'm pleased that with reach increase, cavalry will likely become more viable.
Things I think Mojang should add this update.
1. A new weapon. In the same sense as the trident, a weapon that can only be obtained one way, I think they should do the same for trial shambers. Maybe a staff that shoots wind projectiles? Or maybe a greatsword with big damage and reach but very slow swing speed. Either way, adding a new weapon would make a reason players would seek out the trial chambers in the first place instead of more music discs or craftable gear and loot.
2. Locked chests. Having seen mojang add a key as an item drop from trial spawners really has people going crazy about what it is for. My idea is that it will be used for specific locked chests that are tuffer to break and work similarly to shulker boxes but needs the key to be opened. This would prevent players from rushing through, grabbing the loot and running without fighting. These chests could also house a new weapon inside like suggested earlier.
3. Banner map markers. This I definitely think should be added to bedrock from java. It allows players to mark and name areas on the map, and can be used for many purposes from adventuring, to labeling structures, to a guide to where you may had dungeon delved before perishing.
4. New poison skeleton designs. When I heard that skeletons would shoot poisoned arrows I was a little disappointed when I saw that they were just skeletons weilding poison arrows. A new skeleton mob would be so much better as it would have a specific design that is distinctive, similar to the stray, husk, and drowned, making you know what type of zombie they were before getting attacked.
5. A new boss. In a combat update there should definitely be a new boss to be added. My idea is something with a copper or tuff aesthetic to fit with the trial chambers. Maybe something similar to redstone golems from minecraft dungeons.
Any of these ideas implemented would make this update feel more of a 8 or 9 out of 10 to me while it currently is sitting at a 7/10 for me.
I love the changes to the trident! I love using it but the lower damage made it a bad weapon for melee but the increased damage and reach is amazing!
It seems that a lot of the changes are definitely more beneficial for bedrock, which leads me to hoping desperately that they give us hardcore mode 😂
they would have to fix the bugs related to random death first.
@@Error-yk8cf True bro I've no clipped out of the world at least 4 times haha. Not to mention Enderman laying you on your a** when you never even saw one. And I can't forget the infamous controller disconnect either lmao
i love everything about this update , but my one issue is that a sword is nearly vital to kill the ender dragon, , i should be able to beat the big bad of minecraft with a wepon of my choice
The problem with different weapons having different reach is it pretty much makes every fight inconsistent. Imagine hitting 3.5 blocks then suddenly 3 and then 3 and then 3.5. Or imagine someone in a pvp game mode has a trident and you have a sword then all they have to do is sit in a corner with their 4 block reach and you can’t do anything because you can’t get close enough because the sword can’t reach far enough.
thats a good point, itll be interesting how mojang will handle this
Definitely need a two handed enchantment for the sword. It takes up both slots, has a slower attack speed, but has increased damage and reach and sweeping edge is more effective against mobs at the edge of your swing.
16 instant damage potions is insta kill
I think we need diferent potions, like a potion of vulnerability (take more damage, no shield, but short time length), or a potion of wieght that stops someone from jumping but requires netherite scraps to get any decent time length. A potion of shocking would also be cool, it would deal a bit of armor penetrating damage and disable your opponents weapon for a split second, which could be really useful for going into a combo. and if you drink shocking through a normal bottle, you can apply the effect to other people by hitting them (instant effect on self, but can apply a weaker effect to targets)
The main reason I see people using the saturation regen boost is to survive fire/wither/etc when low health but not quite dead, I wonder if the regen rate change will be enough for that case
It should be fast like in java when you have are below 3 hearts up to 5 hearts so that it becomes better during pvp and pve but much slower after you have more than 5 heartd
i never really used saturation myself so i guess getting rid of it would add the difficulty spike but on its own can be worked around and negated anyway down the line and some alternative way would just replace it making the difficulty barely ramp up. i personally think the harder the mode, the more hp and dmg certain mobs do usually the common mobs like the zombies and drowned. as to not make it too difficult, get rid of hostile mobs like the zombies and skeletons being able to wear armour, make enchants and zombies with swords on mobs and skeletons quite rare for those mobs to soawn with so if the mob drops the item, u dont get something OP or decent enough at such an early point in the game. even then if armour on these mobs were to stay, they should at least only have the mobs were one piece of armour clothing not multiple, so getting free sets of enchanted gear without the need of enchants is not easy to obtain. id say about as rare as a normal fishing rod being able to have the chance to fish out an enchanted book and for only specific enchants to be found on the armour to stop it being OP or to skip progress but still be optional to wear if someone manages to obtain one early on.
I would be all for all of the potion and food changes in this. Actually making potions useful, and not just clogging your inventory seems like a good change.
Because of how saturation works right now, theres pretty much no use in carrying healing or regen potions if you just had any food really. Especially things like Golden Carrots or Steaks.
I like these changes actually. I don't see any faults with them. Sure, it would take time to getting used to, but that's ok. My only question is: how will it affect golden carrots as a food source?
The fault with snowball 64 stacks is that mass storage redstone devices wont work anymore. It need thousands of 16 stacked items and people have been using snowballs for ages now
@@LavrentiEmirashvili Looks like eggs or enderpearls will have to be the new norm
@@curtisevans8413 enderpearls have been used to sort things such as snow balls and eggs but i guess signs can be used for it aswell. Its only bad for me since snowball farms are easy to build and also really cheap
The bedrock healing is the thing that sucks the most, so it's good that if this comes out, as well as redstone and farming (Java has sooooo much better farms and redstone contraptions)
You guys get to move chests and hoppers with pistons though, which java sadly doesn't have.
I think cooldowns and reach for weapons is awesome. And I do agree that Mojang could add many other kind of weapons each wither their own reach, attack speed, and damage. But that also leads into more enchantments or armors that have special effects. I say go for it.
I would love for Mojang to let us toggle off player name visibility through walls. Seeing players through walls has always broken my immersion and annoyed me, and it greatly limits the type of PVP games we can make.
It might just be the medieval nerd in me speaking, but I love the idea of new weapons, maybe not halberds, but spears definitely. Now I'm just spit balling, maybe add two handed variants, sword with more reach and damage, axe with more damage, a spear with too much reach, but you lose access to your offhand, so no shield, or a timed block. Maybe a wee too complex for cube game tho.
Nah I could totally see what you mean. Like a jab attack with a spear which takes the shield out of view while doing the attack and shows a split second cooldown on its item box. After the quick cooldown, the shield would come back into view in the offhand again and be able to block.
I already sort of try to time my sword attacks in bedrock (i only play bedrock) cause it just feels natural.
Minecraft dungeons ideas should just be adapted for Minecraft. All the awesome mobs, weapons, enchantments, armor, artifacts, all make up a actually really good combat system and would perfectly fill the holes found in Minecraft’s combat system.
I’ve been away from following Minecraft updates for ages. I’m purely here to revisit this channel after following it for a long time just to see the outro, and my entire emotional vessel was not ready to hear a calm C418 Sweden cover, but I love it. Also nice signboards animations, they’re pretty fancy!
Stacking potions will add a great level of convenience, even past combat-related changes. For me personally, its really annoying having to carry 4-6 individual night vision potions whenever I go mining or exploring underwater. Those inventory slots fill up fast 😅
I just want to be able to mine and place torches without switching hands
I feel like it could benefit from some changes to movement. We can block with a shield, but I think a dodge would be really interesting.
This would sadly never come to fruition due to phones tho
I'm especially excited for different reaches per weapon.
Though I hesitate to believe these changes are the changes they intend to implement. I'm would be so excited to be proven wrong.
Trident is very underrated at the moment, Reach would make so much better. We also need spears.
@@Zero_DaHero how would spears be different from tridents?
@@CaptainRyMM give it a thrust ability instead of throwing
I think these are the changes that Jeb has been working on for some time now
@@apuji7555 they are. This is the same snap shot that was worked on a few years ago and have not seen any updates since. I do hope these changes are implemented.
We should get new types of weapons like a bow and throwable weapons (like the trident but something different) with the new combat system to make the update more physical instead of just technical. These weapons could be charged up like Krato's axe that can charge up with ice in God of War. It would bring more depth to the update too I believe
kind of reminds me of cult of lamb some weapons like the hammer are slow but do a lot of damage and also have a big area of effect but some things like daggers act quickly but do low damage
The sweeping in normal java Minecraft would only sweep when you hit a entity meaning that if you have sweeping edge you don't need to aim directly for your enemy in the snapshot
I was thinking of the Smithing Table as a place to adjust and rebalance weapon stats (damage, speed, reach) but it got its functionality. Maybe some kind of new crafting station could do that.
That be cool if we could make iron stuff like as strong and durable as netherite weapons
It's not a bad concept
not a bad call actually. i dont think the increases should be at all significant to prevent weapons becoming OP but i do think if certain enchantments were swapped in to make stat boosters like sharpness in a fletching table or u can slightly alter a weapon to maybe swing just a tad faster or get that 1 extra hit point of dmg or crit dmg, while restricting how many times u can modfiy the weapons and what specific things can be used to modify these weapons, i think that would be a cool way to go and even adds in more enchantment capabilites as well.
the alternative to thos would be to give weapons 1 unique ability that it can use. maybe a sword can deal a bleeding affect on mobs for a extra second being 1 or two ticks of 1dmg, maybe bows can cause mini aoe explosion dmg when it hits a mob but doesnt destory blocks. the trident can be thrown in mid air during a rainstorm a 2nd time to stay airbourne without the use of an elytra and gain a bit more distance more easily. stuff like this would be neat.
@@unboxing_legend7708 I agree with all of that
Just combat stuff can go so many ways in Minecraft like it's interesting
@@Arronic ik they have so many possibilities to expand from its just wandering where they will take it.
@@Arronic Thinking of mostly a trade-off system where there is still inherent advantage to higher-tier materials but for example, specializing an iron sword to have netherite damage and less reach.
Stackable potions are my favorite! I always wanted an excuse to brew all kinds of potions, but you need to fill too much of your inventory with just potions to make using them viable while exploring. This way i can have a single shulker with stacks of every potion i could need!
i remember your last video about this, and ngl if they pull this off i might get more into minecraft again.
I played for a few hours yesterday on Halloween but I didn't see any mob with pumpkins on their heads 🎃
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Legend knows that title is edited,
Because the proof is thumbnail 😂😂😂
i really like the idea that they could add different kinds of shelds. they could have a copper sheld that is kinda tiny and won't block as much but has more durability and cant be cleaved or a gold sheld that blacks a lot but has really low deribility (also cant be cleaved). i also think it would be great to have a sheld inchantment that would automatically block for you based on the enchantment level: 1-25% 2-50% 3-70%.
I was frightened! I thought they were adding a cool down in Bedrock Edition 😂
Bedrock Edition Combat is changing too
cooldowns would be fine as long as they didn't affect mobs.
i like cooldown
They are probably but you have the choice to still spam
Minecraft combat shouldn't have cooldowns at all.
if this isn't already added, maybe mojang could add a setting somewhere for if the potion bottle goes to your inventory after drinking, or dropping on the ground.
They should make a feature solely dedicated to rewarding you for beating up Sniffers
Edit: Making a datapack for this in the future
Whyyy
@@Real_amirshonmthey deserve it
It’s time to make Sniffers extinct again
No, snifflets
yessir
Bro stackable potions is huge
Something that I've been hoping for are alternatives to netherite. I like netherite but imagine if you had 2-3 different options so you could choose how to upgrade your diamond gear
I feel like if we get a cool down the mobs need a cooldown and a animation to tell you when it is going to hit cause my problem in bedrock is I have no Time to get out of a hoard of zombies
YEESSSS, I want a new Combat System so badly in 1.21 plss Mojang!
For some reason, minecraft attracts very skilled pvp players. Maybe giving them more tools to express their skill can result in something good
I never even knew these combat snapshots were a thing. As a bedrock player, an update like this would completely justify and make it worth adding cooldowns to our weapons. Even in the state it’s currently in I’d want this on my game, I love these changes
I like how they say bedrock is the main focus for Microsoft yet we get less features than Java
One more change they should have; a new enchant for tridents to make them deal more damage. other than that, this update has redeemed itself faster than 1.20!
They actually had it so Impaling did it’s extra damage to any mob that was wet (in water or rain) in one of the combat snapshots.
@@ani_star9729 they should make it so the attack speed is on par with swords when in water as well
Splash should be stackable with cool downs! I wanna play as a magic user using potions to kill mobs!
Bro changed the title but still has 1.21 in the thumbnail
Lol ikr
go Photoshop half of your old videos thumbnails rn
ive said for years you should be able to throw splash potions farther with some sort of charge mechanic similar to the bow.
IIRC they also mentioned making some parity changes to Tridents so that Java can have stuff like Impaling being increased damage to anything mobs in water or rain instead of just to water mobs on Java and tridents with Loyalty not getting deleted if you yeet them into the void
20:10 "Or has it gotten to the point where Minecraft discourse, and maybe internet and video game discourse as a whole, has gotten to this stage where people would much rather complain than say things that are actually valid and, indeed, constructive"
Hit the nail right on the head there! And not just with Minecraft related discourse - as you briefly mentioned, this happens across the board with video game discourse. People will look at something, decide they don't like it, and refuse to offer any solutions to the situation.
I’ve noticed you stepping up the editing Toycat! Great work, I’m loving it. :D
Don’t take this as pressure to continue such though in case it becomes too much work.
I’ll be here for your content no matter what bro. ❤
They should add a scythe or something for the cooldown 1.9 combat and allow swords to be spam clicked, that way players can play with whatever they are better with, this would be easier to balnce between the two since its 2 different items
Only thing i need is a Battle Axe, that's all
Personally I'd like a warhammer.
@@Abegilr_Dragonrider For The Emperor!
@@Challanger463 Rather for the Kingdom of Fife.
I think if they plan on adding more weapon modifying enchantments then they ought to give them some visual indicators. It isn’t much but it allows other plays to engage in combat with a little more knowledge of what they’re getting into, plus it could just look cool
They need to mix the two current systems together
Make it so swords work how they are on java (timing)
Then add daggers, make them do less damage, but work like Bedrock (spamming)
That, some quality of life changes, and a few new changes is all they need, they don't have to overhaul everything
It would be my dream if you could have extra effects if you are in a higher XP level, because now for example there is no difference in the gameplay between level 30 and level 1000
Can someone please let us left-handed people have our left hand in Minecraft bedrock edition/PS4 please.and mods.
sweeping edge is broken in this combat snapshot, you can look up and it's anyway works only forward and you don't losing durability
They could add some weapons from Minecraft Dungeons, like the daggers and highland axe shown from the thumbnail
Or soul knifes and Claymores/Broadswords that would do a lot of damage but be very slow
daggers would be cool. i can see then being used in quick sucession and simutaniously one after the other with a half second cooldown and an enchant to have a poisoned tip on the daggers or adding sharpness to it just to increase the damage slightly.
The thing is pvp; 1.8 or 1.21 is all about timing and range anyways, if you are too close the opponent can hit you back too (therefore resulting in not being able to Combo) , on the other hand if you are too far you won’t be able to hit the other guy, and as for timing.. well even 1.8 has timing on bedrock for example, there are 2 cps combos; and spam combos, and depending on the other persons ping a certain amount of cps matters. It will be interesting to know how bedrock players will react/ get to know, the new pvp especially without any past experience with 1.9+ pvp. Since I have a few freinds that don’t understand it at all, cause they have played bedrock up until now.
Netherite axe + cleaving 3 + sharpness 5 = 18 WHOLE DAMAGE
DAYUM!
And then remember that you can crit.
cleaving and sharpness are rumored to not stack
cleaving and sharpness are mutually exclusive, it's a similar case to sharpness and smite, so no you're not gonna get that in survival
With the new edits to impaling, the trident will be able to do about 20-21 damage to ANY mob touching water
Stews should also stack to 16.
YAY NEW COMBAT STUFF, it probably should've happened sooner
This isn't being added. This was a snapshot from three years ago.
Yeah... not sure what he's on about here. I believe it was scrapped. @@beezer0382
@@beezer0382Are you sure?
@@garrynewman6211 Well yeah. I remember when these were released. I've been playing MC for 12 years, I keep up with everything. Even toycat in the video said these are from a few years ago, he just clickbaited and made it seem new.
"Deprecated." "Depreciated" is a different word. OTOH three points for going for the polysyllabic word.
I just want bundles.
I like the combat update but for pvp in certain servers it'll be a downside drastically because people like to combo
They should add a Grappling Hook maybe as an enchantment to the fishing rood!
There should be an weapon enchantment that buffs range and damage, but doesn't allow you to use your offhand. It would be a cool tradeoff, and it's thematic to have a two-handed weapon