Why Footballers ACTUALLY Demand Higher Wages

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  • Footballers wages are subject to almost endless debate, with the likes of Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, and Mohamed Salah among the most highly paid athletes on the planet.
    The wealth in the sport and competition within the transfer market allows players and agents to constantly drive up salaries - but why do footballers actually demand higher wages?
    In this video, HITC Sevens puts forward the argument that - most of the time - it isn't actually about the money at all.

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  • @tdyerwestfield
    @tdyerwestfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Published by The Times, 2 of the top 10 most charitable people in the UK (based on what they earn compared to how much they donate) or "Giving List" in 2020 were footballers. Marcus Rashford and Jordan Henderson.

  • @tdyerwestfield
    @tdyerwestfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Fans often find out how charitable their own players are. Sadio Mane for example, supposedly donates £300k per month to his home area in Senegal which has resulted in numerous hospitals, schools and houses being built. Mo Salah does very similarly, he earned over 2 million votes at the most recent presidential elections in Egypt, despite not being a candidate, which means over 2 million people wrote his name on their voting slip.

    • @MrReese
      @MrReese 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sadio Mané also went on strike and refused to join his team to force a transfer to Southampton when Salzburg was about to play the second leg of their final Champions League qualification playoff round - which they then lost. What a great guy!

  • @SudaneseChamp
    @SudaneseChamp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Don't forget that their family isnt just their mum dad and siblings. In a lot of these cultures it some time up to 3rd cousins.

    • @Church_Of_Kloppism
      @Church_Of_Kloppism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And are their family playing football to earn that money??, Dafuq do I owe my 3rd cousin a piece of my living???? Lol

    • @SudaneseChamp
      @SudaneseChamp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@Church_Of_Kloppism that your culture then u clown. Pipe down

    • @Church_Of_Kloppism
      @Church_Of_Kloppism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SudaneseChamp or maybe what I earn is mine????? It's called capitalism if you must know 👍👍👍 clown.

    • @awijaya2116
      @awijaya2116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      3rd cousins is a bit much (at that point, you need to go all the way back to great-great-grandparents to find how you're related), but this is absolutely true. Also consider that the families of some footballers are a lot larger than those found in developed countries - and the countries they're from may not have any social security nets, or even high unemployment and so on.

    • @NoCluYT
      @NoCluYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Church_Of_Kloppism in different cultures extended family is very important and just as close as immediate family. In Western society the only family which really matters is just parents and siblings.

  • @PassivesAbseits
    @PassivesAbseits 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    One should consider, that a "Brazilian Family" "often refers to one's larger kin group". If you want to look out for 15 people, not just for 4, you actually need more money.

    • @fishyfish6510
      @fishyfish6510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      15 is pretty small kin group😆

    • @carlhunter5581
      @carlhunter5581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah and £5m a year isn't enough to look after 15 people comfortably is it.

    • @PassivesAbseits
      @PassivesAbseits 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@carlhunter5581 Well... first, those 15 people might be rather low. I just used it, to symbolize, that we can't use our European Family Expectations and be like "His great-great-grandchildren are already rich." (That's a lot of black kids on your Forbes list... To quote Beyoncé Knowles). Just to emphasize: My own family by Brazilian standards would be around 50, since I got 5 aunts and uncles, who each have 2-3 kids... some of them are already married themselves and got kids of their own. And that is just the father's side of my family tree... Those numbers get big really fast. That might be the family Oscar talks about. I just used the 15 to point out, that the number is definitely bigger than we expect it to be.
      Then the math gets too complicated for me... can I supply 15 people for 50 years, when I make 5 Millions a year for 10 years? Yeah, it will be fine, while I am still playing, but what happens, after I retire?

    • @syverholm645
      @syverholm645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PassivesAbseits imagine getting rich and 50 family members expect you to share it with them hahah

  • @mooseman881
    @mooseman881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    On the point about salary caps leading to low wages, I'd like to chime in as an American with good knowledge on the salary capped NHL. The salary cap is calculated as a percentage of league revenue, meaning the more money the league generates, the more money a team can pay players (there is also a cap floor in addition the a cap ceiling). The cap usually goes up each year and players get paid more and more each year as a result.
    My thoughts on high wages is that top athletes work all their lives for their dreams at the top, and it results in a pyramid of wages. The peaks can be quite high in most sports, but there also needs to be a large base to keep the sport competitive, and also give young players a chance to keep at their dreams of they aren't blessed with God given talent and early success. Better the players at the top get paid than letting owners pocket it.

    • @robcampion9917
      @robcampion9917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidmontgomery1442 I agree with you when you say a salary cap needs to be FIFA-wide. All you need to do is look at what the RFU did in England to see how bad it can be, initially when it was introduced some of the players just moved to France to get payed more and still compete at the same level.

    • @odieony7007
      @odieony7007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidmontgomery1442 top 5 leagues did it. it would work. promotion and relegation makes it more complicated. and how you buy and sell players

    • @Dani-kq6qq
      @Dani-kq6qq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isnt it funny how European football associations are more free market capitalism than American sports associations. It isnt a criticism of either, just an unexpected phenomenon. 😂

    • @odieony7007
      @odieony7007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dani-kq6qq shhh don't tell America their favourite sports are follow a borderline socialist model. 😂

    • @reintaler6355
      @reintaler6355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@odieony7007 or their army

  • @irthamepali
    @irthamepali 2 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    I would argue that players like Ronaldo, Salah, Messi etc are some of the only fairly compensated workers in society. Their product generates millions for their employer so its only fair they get these millions.
    Surplus value and all that

  • @4tyu3318
    @4tyu3318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    In the nfl, the cycle is that someone wants to be the highest payed player in a position, and gets his wish. But the previous highest payed also wants to be the highest payed and the cycle continues

  • @balham5606
    @balham5606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Good reasons in the video Alfie
    14:18 gambling adverts and sponsors in football need to go ASAP
    You made a video to that recently before.
    Good video Alfie 😊

    • @karlhans4116
      @karlhans4116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alcohol and gambling needs to be banned
      these only create harm in society

    • @balham5606
      @balham5606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karlhans4116 yes Karl
      That’s what i meant thanks

    • @davidtuttle7556
      @davidtuttle7556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@karlhans4116 you cannot legislate good behavior or morality. Prohibition does not work. We tried it here in the States. It did not work. It in fact gave rise to organized criminal activity. Drinking and gambling as bad as they are, are here to stay.

    • @davidforster8650
      @davidforster8650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@karlhans4116 Never going to happen, look at the Prohibition in America.
      Prohibition and a Gambling ban would just push bookies underground...
      Better the devil you know than the ones you dont

  • @jonathanreimann7876
    @jonathanreimann7876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Bayern Munich stated once, that they are not prepared to offer any player more than 340 000 pounds a week and reportedly even turned down a further contract with David Alaba due to those restrictions

    • @sumomaster9144
      @sumomaster9144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Depends on the player really...you think if that was Lewandowski asking they would say no?

    • @ShiningLion
      @ShiningLion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There also was a Bayern representative in some fair play meeting, judging the big clubs' privilege to buy any players they want... on the same day Bayern bought Lewandowski from Dortmund! :´D

    • @sportsjefe
      @sportsjefe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sumomaster9144 Bayern Munich doesn't need Lewandowski to steamroll the Bundesliga.

    • @hyeongbeencheon6150
      @hyeongbeencheon6150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sumomaster9144 there is contract dispute between lewa and bayern rn so..

  • @syed269
    @syed269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A lot of the footballers especially who comes from African and South American regions are generous and give back to their communities back home to an extent which we have no idea about. I remember Salah donated 3 million dollars to Egypt National Cancer fund in 2019, that amount is almost 50% of his wages after taxes and this information only came out when the Cairo University Chairman spoke after months. Mane has similar stories, he has build school and hospital in his village of Bambi. I remember Hector Bellarin said in his Oxford Union session said that he has Brazilian teammates who are financially taking care of their extended families and friends back home which gets upto 15-20 people.

  • @danielrose881
    @danielrose881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My cursor was hovering over the comments section to say "you forgot to mention agents!" That's one point that cannot be ignored. If an agent is taking, say, 10% from their players and they've got 20 or 30 players on their books, they're likely to be earning more than the players themselves. It's in their financial interest to get players pay increases.

  • @apc9681
    @apc9681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    People always moan about footballers yet never actors etc, something something classism

    • @Justinian-IV
      @Justinian-IV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How many actors are on a stable weekly wage? How many get paid when they are ill or injured? How many footballers pay a % of their wage to their agent?

    • @kitotapgono1467
      @kitotapgono1467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People tend to forget that these footballers work for some of the worst people on the planet. The Billions who don't give a fuck about them. And they have once in a lifetime to keep themselves and their loved ones away from financial precarity. Why wouldn't you demand more, it's not we are gonna pay their bills when they retire

    • @kitotapgono1467
      @kitotapgono1467 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Billionaires

    • @theultumateprezes6379
      @theultumateprezes6379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Justinian-IV The fact that they aren't on a weekly wage doesn't mean they aren't financially stable- it comes down to the specific of their job. In fact, they are way more stable than footballers, because you can be an actor basically until retirement (and by retirement I mean 60-70), while footballers are limited by their bodies and end their careers somewhere in the mid 30s.

    • @kitotapgono1467
      @kitotapgono1467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Bakamalian but footballers don't come from wealthy backgrounds. Externalities of such an upbringing can be seen in someone like Jeff Bezzos. Parents who can invest 200k in his business and still live a good life. Actors have acces to so many opportunities whereas footballers don't. Heck extended family members and friends rely on them to pay mortgages.

  • @GeliCarlosJ
    @GeliCarlosJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    As much as a salary cap would seem very interesting a concept to implement in European football and could make things more competitive in theory it'll probably in the end just benefit the billionaire owners so id rather see players be the ones to get paid extravagant amounts than it to go to the owners who were most likely born with a silver spoon in their mouths and have never worked as hard as the players have ever in their lives

    • @kindmulberry7196
      @kindmulberry7196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The last thing we'd want is more money for the owners who tried to form a breakaway Super League. I don't mind footballers being paid an extortionate amount of money as long as they perform at their very best. A salary cap seems counterintuitive and would just punish the players.

    • @ShiningLion
      @ShiningLion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I disagree, or, at least, I don't fully see the logic here. The high wage and transfer budgets in football are because of billionaires pouring ridiculous amounts of money into their clubs. If all that was stripped, and instead the cap was based on what money football actually produces, meaning if the monetary system became more closed, we would see a radical decrease in the biggest clubs' budgets. Then the question becomes what percentage of a football league's total revenue went into cap space. If that was high enough (which the billionaires wouldn't want), then the system becomes more self-supporting and there was less room for owners getting the profits. At the very least, with the cap system, the billionaire owners wouldn't be able to inject their own money into budgets anymore, and that in and of itself would already radically balance the playfield. Won't happen, though, since money talks, especially in football.

    • @kindmulberry7196
      @kindmulberry7196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShiningLion That is true but I disagree mainly since if the owners spend their own money it isn't much of an issue unless they benefit the sport as a whole. The problem is, most don't! But if they did, then I'd be chill with very high salaries in football. It's all I've ever known since I'm not exactly old. What the Premier League in particular needs is 50+1, that way owners can still pump money into clubs (and well, TV rights are the reason why PL clubs became so incredibly rich in the first place) but these owners will have little control and instead the fans can decide on how their club should be run. As for balancing competition, I'd love there NOT to be a fixed Top Six but there's not much I myself can do about it. Every major league in Europe is losing competitiveness with the exception of maybe Serie A? (I'm a Bayern fan and I'll admit winning the Buli has almost become a formality at this point), so it is clear that what money has done has widened the gap between the rich and the poor to the point Ligue 1 clubs in particular cannot sustain themselves without selling their most prized assets.

    • @ShiningLion
      @ShiningLion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kindmulberry7196 Yeah, I agree with you as well. 50+1 would sound very cool; still, it doesn't solve everything (Bayern). The problem is with TV revenues and especially in that for the billionaire owners, football is just a very expensive hobby. It's not about making profit, it's more about bragging rights at the billionaire club on who won the CL this year, or something along those lines. :D And it shows that only a few clubs per country get such treatment. There will automatically be a huge cap in team budgets as long as this is possible. Then again, yes, maybe this is better than having 20 % of revenue in the league teams' even budgets, and owners pocketing the rest of the 80 %...

    • @ShiningLion
      @ShiningLion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      About competetiveness, I love how some minor teams manage go build very good academies, like Atalanta for example, and challenge ye olden giants. Expect something like Mallorca in La Liga being there in a few years if everything goes right! Speaking of La Liga, love how this season have gone, with teams like Betis and Sevilla, and even my favorite Rayo Vallecano playing well with a high-risk-high-reward buy like Falcao. :D So there's always going to be surprises I think. Some well-known constant Prem failures and some underdogs challenging the best.

  • @rogink
    @rogink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Instead of a cap on wages, how about a cap on ticket prices?

  • @whereismyphonebook
    @whereismyphonebook 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    enjoying the myth busting run you've been on lately Alfie, these long form videos are so refreshing, there's so much hyperbole and short memory in football coverage it's nauseating, thanks for cutting through the bs.

  • @endlesssabbatical9612
    @endlesssabbatical9612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    If you think players don’t care about tax just look at the tax evasion cases in Spain and the EBT setup that killed off Rangers. All were efforts to bolster the take home pay at the expense of the public purse

    • @abelathafilbert6137
      @abelathafilbert6137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      wait i'm curious of how much the tax there. is it a lot to make people want to evade tax?

  • @johnpaulosullivan7871
    @johnpaulosullivan7871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Could you do a top 7 English teams who never played in the top flight of England.

  • @stevec6232
    @stevec6232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think you should do a video on agents specifically their payments and tactics. It's a fascinating unregulated market. I find it bizzare clubs pay agent's commission when they represent the player. Ie. Shouldn't player be paying for their services in any other industry. Is this unique to football?

    • @jamgooandyou
      @jamgooandyou 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of the time if a deal for said player is done, the agent makes sure they get a big cut n the player too, so you could say the player pays the agent

    • @abelathafilbert6137
      @abelathafilbert6137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think players paid agents with percentage of the transfers and also said commission, even though maybe its up to the agents of how much commission they demand

  • @moonofterror
    @moonofterror 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    we need a "Top 7 reasons why im being hunted by the Irish Guy right now"

  • @niklasbirksted8175
    @niklasbirksted8175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes please on the agents arguments!!

  • @ducati9992
    @ducati9992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Footballers deserve every penny they sell a product that is in high demand. Some people run around with this narrative that footballers are just unintelligent pple that are 'lucky' and try to talk down on them with the stupid argument of they aren't teachersor ('22men who run after a ball'). To play football at a professional level you have to be intelligent you can't just run about

    • @news-nashta
      @news-nashta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly everyone's like what these guys do to earn so much money? They just run with the ball, well running with the ball wouldn't seem so easy when you consider that there are at any time 11 people who don't want you to run with the ball and will do whatever it takes legally sometimes even brutally to take that ball away from you. Football is a beautiful and a brutal sport when you consider the power and flair in it. The players are paid just fine and I think the reason English football has done such lucrative business in the last 20 years is due to the diversity, style of football (fast and attacking) and building a sense of affinity for everyone from around the globe.

    • @anglesmcmuffin1260
      @anglesmcmuffin1260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@news-nashta football brutal lol, try getting smashed by a 20 stone tank like in rugby for far less wages ,that's a brutal sport

  • @mrb6759
    @mrb6759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing I have learnt in life is that the concept of money is not as we know it, rather it symbolises oppression, greed, inequalities, discrimination and injustice.

  • @frankmeyer1473
    @frankmeyer1473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    while I do think that the wages for the highest earners are ridicules, I prefer the money going to the players than being pocketed by some owner/investor or being swept up in the big circle jerk that is the transfer market.
    Nothing is going to change, unless some Bolsheviks take over the FAs and implement their own "taxes" on transfer fees and high wages to create foundations that pay for things like a living wage for women or education programs for retired players.

  • @freddiesay4002
    @freddiesay4002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HITCSevens, please do a video about the best XI in the Premier League since 1992 in each position e.g Schmeichel, Cech in goal, Neville, Azpilicueta, Walker at right back. It would be brilliant.

  • @Jonathan2342
    @Jonathan2342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You should look at the number of professional athletes that end up bankrupt, especially after retirement. That money disappears very quickly when the 5-10 years of income production ends and they get used to the lifestyle.

    • @sumomaster9144
      @sumomaster9144 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the current generation is smarter than that

    • @anglesmcmuffin1260
      @anglesmcmuffin1260 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sumomaster9144 John Terry 20 mil in debt ,despite earning 150k a week plus bonus

  • @leolo1613
    @leolo1613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A salary cap does only make sense if there is a general income cap. Why restrict salaries of ppl that might actually deserve a lot of money bc they bring a lot of joy but not to the likes of club owners? If anything a salary cap for sports people should be higher than for like financiers etc as their careers are much shorter. Taxation is a form of capping income so, as Alfie mentioned, there should be a more progressive taxation. Having the same 45% tax rate for ppl making 150k a year and ppl making 150k a month does not make sense.

    • @vaiyt
      @vaiyt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Salary caps would be tied to league revenues, if it helps.

    • @leolo1613
      @leolo1613 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vaiyt what good would that do?

  • @claytoncole8137
    @claytoncole8137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your passion for these subjects mate, class stuff!

  • @tonyantoniou9271
    @tonyantoniou9271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your videos are never too long !

  • @Hilversumborn
    @Hilversumborn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great follow up to your footballers bankrupt video.

  • @ianhunter412
    @ianhunter412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I see your point about taxes and 45% not being equitable based on wages Alfie, but, obviously a person making $200k a year would pay $90k a year in tax whereas the person making $489 million would pay over $220 MILLION therefore leveling the playing field

    • @benghiskahn3673
      @benghiskahn3673 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      200k a year would be more like 70k in taxes

    • @ianhunter412
      @ianhunter412 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benghiskahn3673 $200k a year has a tax rate of 45% Therefore, 45% of $200,000 is $90,000 🙄 So before replying KNOW what you’re talking about mate

  • @GetStuckInThere
    @GetStuckInThere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i always find your videos very interesting. so could you make a video about the inflation of player values in Italy. keep up the good work! :>

  • @ODfootball
    @ODfootball 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Salah deserves the money tbh

    • @balham5606
      @balham5606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Liverpool should pay him and give him the contract

    • @foa0695
      @foa0695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      not 400K lol
      Edit: Do you want your club to overspend on Salah. Worlds best but will strain your club's finance. If Salah cares about Liverpool then he will be happy with 300K if not you should let him go.

    • @ODfootball
      @ODfootball 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@foa0695 he deserves at least 350k at least he is the best player in the world and Man U pay Ronaldo 480k just to have the name Ronaldo on the team sheet

    • @foa0695
      @foa0695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ODfootball Ronaldo gets that money because of his name. He doesn't deserve such a massive amount at that age.
      Whether salah deserves it or not, if he truly cares for liverpool he will he happy with around 300K. That's a 70K rise per week

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@foa0695 Timo Werner and Anthony Martial earn more money than him. Gareth Bale almost earns 3 times as much as him. He has every right to ask for 400k per week and even more. He is in the top bracket of elite players and if Liverpool won't pay that, someone else will. Liverpool most certainly won't be overspending. He's the best player in the world right now and is worth every penny to them.

  • @rogeriocorreia1901
    @rogeriocorreia1901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Alfie. Keep it up.

  • @jimbob-robob
    @jimbob-robob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These financial vids are kinda depressing for people on low wages...

    • @Church_Of_Kloppism
      @Church_Of_Kloppism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nah mate it's about accepting where you are in life or taking a risk and making a change...the game we call life my friend your moment is our there bro just gotta go and find it.

    • @HITCSevens
      @HITCSevens  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sorry to hear that, Jimbob. That's never been my intention. Obviously elite level footballers are extremely high earners and if we compare ourselves to them most of us will feel like we're not doing very well. I'll try to bear that in mind in any future finance related videos though.

    • @stevec6232
      @stevec6232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HITCSevens It's human nature. There is always someone doing better than you. This just reflects extreme end of capitalism model. I think you are right to feel free to discuss this subject.

    • @AR-rg2en
      @AR-rg2en 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HITCSevens success is not equivalent to earning money.

    • @kauswekazilimani3736
      @kauswekazilimani3736 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AR-rg2en It sure does help though. Hard to feel successful if you can't take care of your family.

  • @Jonodrew1286
    @Jonodrew1286 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say I thought it would bore me watching this, but I found it very enlightening and interesting - What gets me is that tax just seems to be the government licensing the rights to work and earn money. - Apart from self respect and personal growth, you can understand why some people cannot be asked to get up in the morning ( BUT THEY SHOULD) because economic leaches do not help either - enjoyed the commentary 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @OfficialFingazMC
    @OfficialFingazMC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    01:27 UP THE VALE ⚫⚪
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    Edit: Tax is a joke. I'm a salesman and there's something all sales people do which is jump from company to company for 3 months at a time as you're classed as self employed during that time, so you don't HAVE to pay tax if you don'twant to. I got offered a contract and promotion at one company and my first pay cheque with tax and all that, basically took nearly my entire commision off of my wage slip. I worked my socks off and managed to get around 4k in that month and after tax it was almost pointless me being the best salesman in the company, basically left with my standard wage...

  • @Ishowslow1234abc
    @Ishowslow1234abc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I selected to the medical college from high school exam. In that exam only 1% can select to a medical school. And then as a first year medical student now I study 10-12 hours daily almost 7 days per week. I need to continue this hard work for 6,7 years to complete my degree and become qualified doc, now Im 20 yers old and I will be dedicating whole of my young age for studies. And after being a doc I only get paid 2000 dollers per month. Why my hard work isn't reworded enough or are we not working hard enough compared to these footballers. 😓

  • @jamesfilosa6277
    @jamesfilosa6277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I disagree with you here Alfie. Any footballer (or any worker for that matter) would be stupid not to maximise their salary (given the same work load). Even super-rich footballers should see the potential benefit of earning £20M vs. £10M a year.
    Let's say Salah is reasonable and buys one or two luxury houses and cars, without collecting mansions or Bugattis... Then, when he retires, he could have £50M-100M in the bank. I agree that £50M extra makes little difference to the quality of life of Salah and his closest family, but what if he wants to start a big charity project? What if he wants to renovate some football grounds in Egypt and give the next generation a better chance? Then, suddenly, he would much rather have that money in his bank than in the bank of Liverpool owners FSG.

    • @jamesfilosa6277
      @jamesfilosa6277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I realise you bring up the charity aspect later but I think you're undervaluating it.

  • @mishswb4950
    @mishswb4950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    HITC sevens should be on 450k a week from youtube. Irish guy can remain on a predictione bonus.

    • @Permuh
      @Permuh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just the thought of the Irish guys voice makes me shiver. No ty

  • @MrReese
    @MrReese 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The main reason those top players ask for more and more money is because clubs with an basically infinite influx of money would pay them that amount and because of their ego, keyword "appreciation". "If player X earns that much I want at least the same amount, otherwise I am not appreciated as much and therefore I want to leave". This really is something where a salary cap would solve a LOT of problems.

  • @youtubewatcher703
    @youtubewatcher703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The salaries are responsible in part for putting lower league clubs out of business though, don't pay and you can't compete, pay and you risk the future of your club.

    • @youtubewatcher703
      @youtubewatcher703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryansmith-jr4gn Speak to lower league clubs chairman and see if they think player wages aren't a big issue, I've never met one who didn't think the way football is financially structured is a problem for lower league clubs. Gaps are widening between each league, if you don't accept your place and try to achieve, you can risk the financial security of your football club.

  • @flowmarketinguk2711
    @flowmarketinguk2711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Unless your parents and or grandparents own farmland without any planning restrictions and with easy access to the UKs major cities , you seem to have a major gap in your understanding of wealth and financial freedom. I do enjoy your videos and understand your perspective, but growing up in London gives us an insight into the true cost of living in the UK. £2million a year for 3 years to a young footballer is easily spent on lifestyle expenses in London. A detached mansion on a 1/4 acre plot close to Stamford Bridge costs from £4 million to £60 million.

    • @HITCSevens
      @HITCSevens  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Worth noting that the average salary in London is less than £40,000 a year, so yes, £40,000 a week - whilst still less than the Premier League average - is quite a lot.

    • @timsmith1323
      @timsmith1323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HITCSevens £40k in the East Riding would go quite far tbf even in Beverly or Hedon

  • @Dyla656
    @Dyla656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Day 2: Can you do top 30 forwards of all time at a club like real and Barca
    I think you should make this into a series

  • @TheRadPlayer
    @TheRadPlayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Just add club salary caps already, it's one of the only good things the american leagues have got going for them. Forces teams to choose more carefully in signings, picking between stars and depth, and generally improving the financial stability of clubs.

    • @Londronable
      @Londronable 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      While it has it's advantages it would also mean no superteams throughout history like the Barcelona of 2012, the Galacticos, etc.
      I find that depressing.

    • @TheRadPlayer
      @TheRadPlayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Londronable Sure, and that's a fair point. I just find that, overall, a salary-capped league would be more interesting, and more dynamic, than one dominated by a few clubs with sugardaddies.

    • @Londronable
      @Londronable 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRadPlayer As I said, there are advantages to it indeed.
      Still, as a sports fan in general I want to see the limit of human potential.
      The idea that Messi might be more limited in his output because he had to share the pitch with sub par players(compared to the ones he had in Barcelona) is as I said, rather depressing to me.

    • @Smrda1312
      @Smrda1312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Londronable Well we've seen superteams in the US, some stars even tke wage cuts to play with others. If anything the main problem is that they don't do much except for lower player wages.

  • @smey02
    @smey02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I mean why would the have to explain why the go to different teams to earn more money.
    For some people its more about the fame, for some its about the trophys, for some its about playing time, and for some its just about the money.
    Nothing wrong with that 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
    Every single one of us, if he would be in a position, like beeing a football pro, we would all try to make as much money out of it as we could, because of all the reasons he explained above.
    And liverpool is just stupid if they dont finallx give salah that damn contract. There are many many clubs that would wnat him and would immediately pay what he wants

  • @SonnyK248
    @SonnyK248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's always funny when people say someone like Oscar sacrificed their career for money. What the hell even is "their career?" It's just ego at the end of the day. Medals, legacy, playing in big games. It's all just to satisfy your own hubris. Oscar provided generational wealth for his family. Now instead of just his kids and grandkids being able to choose any life they want, maybe now their kids and grandkids can do the same. and lets not forget he's getting paid three or four times more money for a much easier job. The restrictions you have to put on your life to be a top level footballer in terms of diet and time away from your family over holidays etc are really extreme. I'd much rather eat what I want, have a few beers here and there and still be the best player in China by a country mile for 400k a week.

    • @calumhenderson9404
      @calumhenderson9404 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah mate because him and the kids were on the bread line at Chelsea right enough.

    • @SonnyK248
      @SonnyK248 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@calumhenderson9404 We're talking about generational wealth here. Your entire bloodline having capital and investments in the pipeline so that a hundred years down the road your family are still set up for life. And why even stay at Chelsea anyway? He has no ties to them. The China job was much easier and paid more. In any other profession you choose the one with the higher salary and/or the one that is more comfortable. It's only in football where a player values medals and playing at the highest standard over these tangible things. and it's purely ego driven. Choosing to have your name etched in history over more money for your family. It's a bit selfish.

  • @madsfristednavne9632
    @madsfristednavne9632 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do a doc on Union Saint-Gilloise. The recently promoted side that is winning the Belgian league

  • @Noobie2k7
    @Noobie2k7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You seem to get hung up on how.much footballs are earning currently and not the idea that they're securing their families future when they're no longer earning thst money. Yeah it's a lot of money when a player is earning 500k a month but really he is only doing so for an incredibly short period of time. Oscar isn't getting 500k a week for the rest of his life. There will soon come a time where he's then earning no money at all. And that period will be potentially 40-60 years. Compared to the maybe 5 years he's earning these wages.

  • @Mohammed-oc6qi
    @Mohammed-oc6qi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In my opinion, there is no issue with footballers being paid thousands of pounds a week if the owners value them enough to pay that much and can also afford it. We rarely or never even hear of a premier league club failing to pay its players, ofcourse the counter argument to this could be that the bulk of the revenue that the club generates ends up being used to pay high wages often meaning the clubs report losses in their annual reports. However, all things being equal, I would support a wage cap or a tax increase for players if for example the average premier league wage per player reaches say 150,000 pounds a week (based on our current earning rates without accounting for inflation). I would say this would be unsustainable in the long run, with FFP rules, this would mean that clubs will have to squeeze their budgets to the point were they risk insolvency. I know in reality these things are not really as black and white as we may think, some amounts stated in a player's contract are actually conditional, but that's my take on it.

    • @LuigiLuigi728
      @LuigiLuigi728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually Barcelona had to let Messi go exactly because they don't have money to pay his wages lol 😅

  • @Bilegagn
    @Bilegagn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think footballers and their handlers have come to understand the value they bring to clubs. For this reasons, some handlers will work out how much value their player brings to the club and ask for a percentage of such value. EPL signs coverage deals that runs into the 10s of billions of dollars and since the game is more about the players than the owners or the clubs, the importance of players have been underrated for a very long time and now that's being righted. Also the current crop of owners are mostly billionaires who are trying to create generational wealth by owning things the world admire and follow religiously.

  • @nanakwabena61
    @nanakwabena61 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your topics

  • @marthelus
    @marthelus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do one on Ipswich FC I'm from 🇯🇲 love your contents keep it up

  • @edwarddunmore5583
    @edwarddunmore5583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This doesn't make sense. I think you're over thinking it. The players claiming it's for their family seems reasonable. If it was just for reputation, then a lower wage in the prem would be worth a lot more than a high wage in China

  • @hello-rj1xc
    @hello-rj1xc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alfie, could you make a video about the worst players to win a ballon d'or? (Day 1)

  • @nert-13
    @nert-13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make vids on agents and wage structures

  • @poet1978
    @poet1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before the January transfer window how about a video picking a side of players available on a free transfer

  • @JAlves88
    @JAlves88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As the January transfer window approaches, can you make a video of the best players ever to go out on loan. Was thinking you don't see to many real good players go on loan.

  • @garyfinch6385
    @garyfinch6385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    NYCFC are MLS champions. Regarding CFG and the Yankees Organization that should be an interesting video.

  • @ferinate101
    @ferinate101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these videos

  • @Jonathan2342
    @Jonathan2342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The only thing a salary cap gives is parity in the league. How you do that with the promotion/ relegation system would be very difficult.
    On taxes, everyone is a capitalist when it comes to their own labour. The difference is how they treat other peoples labour and income. There is no moral case that can be made for higher earners to pay a higher tax percentage than anyone else. In addition, the reason why tickets are so expensive is as a direct result of those high tax rates as players wages wouldn’t be that high if they were not giving over half to the government.

  • @InfinteIdeas
    @InfinteIdeas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the MLS in thr United States would benefit from the higher UK taxes, since we love low taxes here and it is an enormous market

  • @folaoladimeji2481
    @folaoladimeji2481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video was brilliant

  • @MrDavidht
    @MrDavidht 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How educational. I didn't know the average salary of a League 2 player was £100k and life was so tough and risky for them. That really puts in perspective the starting salary of a Private in the Army of £20,400, so over paid for such an easy life.

  • @andrejastanivukovic7995
    @andrejastanivukovic7995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Day 22: Best Players With Two Surnames XI

    • @timsmith1323
      @timsmith1323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seems longer than 22 days you’ve been asking lol seems like forever ago since I thought you was on about Suriname not surnames 🤣🤣

    • @andrejastanivukovic7995
      @andrejastanivukovic7995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timsmith1323 its 22 videos ive commented it on lol

    • @timsmith1323
      @timsmith1323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrejastanivukovic7995 I don’t doubt it mate it just feels longer lol

  • @Efeverscente
    @Efeverscente 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do they? Because we're living an economic bubble in the world of Football and players would be stupid not to ride that wave before it bursts

  • @michaelay4900
    @michaelay4900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Day 1: 7 RETIRED Stars Who Now MANAGE teams At A REALLY Low Level

  • @10mibrahim
    @10mibrahim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Salah has every right to demand more

    • @jigsaw2253
      @jigsaw2253 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, he is not as the same level as Messi and Cristiano

    • @timsmith1323
      @timsmith1323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jigsaw2253 this season he’s been way above both their levels and the since he joined Liverpool he’s been one of the top 4-5 forwards on the planet for goals and assist returns especially when he’s played almost exclusively wide

    • @timsmith1323
      @timsmith1323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      100% agree he’s been phenomenal since he joined us but this season he’s on a whole other level even more so than that first season at Liverpool where he broke countless records

  • @kafka27
    @kafka27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    45% taxes for all income above 150 000 £ / year sounds okay.. In Sweden all income over 58 000 £ /year is taxed 55% and still we get NOTHING back... We import somali for this taxation....

    • @rimram3250
      @rimram3250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The idea that swedes think they get nothing back is so funny to me. Have you ever been outside of Sweden?

    • @jigsaw2253
      @jigsaw2253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s too much tax

  • @omo2786
    @omo2786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s very simple. Everyone wants to earn more money. If you can get a slight wage increase to do the same or even a better job then you’ll of course take it. When you then take into account the fact footballers contribute so much in taxes I’d rather they earn it than billionaire owners who pay tiny amounts of money back to society.

  • @del.see.oh.89
    @del.see.oh.89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When footballers from Latin America talk about securing their family's future they are not only talking their partner and kids. Often time they consider their parents, siblings, cousins etc etc.
    I can totally relate to this as the child of immigrants from the Dominican Republic. My parents sacrificed everything.. Working 12-16 hours a day...just so that my sisters and I could study and make something of ourselves. They never made much money and were not able to save a lot for retirement. My sisters and I take care of them now financially and its the least we can do for these wonderful people.
    Today I'm blessed with an excellent wage but will often freelance on the side or pick up a random security shift at a concert venue.
    I do this because the thought of returning to poverty terrifies me and the thought of my children experiencing poverty for the first time terrifies me even more.
    I can't blame anyone for chasing a dollar. Money is not everything but it certainly makes life easier in many regards.
    I didn't have money. Now I do. I rather have it than not have it.

  • @luizdaniel316
    @luizdaniel316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could have easily tell us the answer
    Instead of making this 20 minutes video !!

  • @johnpaulosullivan7871
    @johnpaulosullivan7871 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Add to my previous comment, 7 teams who haven't played above 2nd teir of English football (championship) eg Plymouth Argyle. 7 teams never played in 3rd tier (league 1) eg mk dons, afc Wimbledon (not original Wimbledon fc) and same for 4th (league 2) and 5th (national league) tier.

  • @noahchase9647
    @noahchase9647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the interesting thing about football is that wages arent as balanced as the nba or nfl. the lowest paid players make much more compared to footballers (as a % of the highest paid player)

  • @robb526
    @robb526 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I signed a 300,000 contact with Melchester Rovers only for them to terminate it after they found out I was doing amphetamine and valium ,whilst working part time teaching celebrities such as Katie price and lee Hughes what they know as a driving teaching instructor ,so that's why I think football doesn't leave you much in the bank if you have got a drug habit

  • @darwis4769
    @darwis4769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:53 slightly off-topic here but ole looked so young in this picture compared to now 😅, the pressure of being the manager of man united must've aged him by 20 years in just a couple of years

  • @vascofrancisco9903
    @vascofrancisco9903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will you make an xi or seven of the best footballers who retired in 2021?

  • @edwardmurphy7792
    @edwardmurphy7792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We live in a world o gimme gimme gimme ,clubs squeeze every penny they can from fans and sponsors ,tv etc, all of whom are looking to profit from the club's success,..A players career can be brutally short , and even the ones with long careers playing are out if a job in their early thirties. Agents ,hangers on and trophy wives are costly to maintain.. it's a simple question ,is he worth it ...?????
    The days when the guys on the pitch and the guys in the stand were as one are long gone..

  • @Wonderkid44
    @Wonderkid44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    People on facebook believe soldiers deserve just as much as footballers

  • @patrickschattilly
    @patrickschattilly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I were an elite soccer player I would require in my contract that the club pay my income taxes. So that my received wage is untaxed

  • @cormacdonnelly5015
    @cormacdonnelly5015 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty funny that Matip was used as the picture of the ultra rich lol

  • @dhruvchopra4235
    @dhruvchopra4235 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey could you make a post on the importance of agents, don't understand how say Raiola's bad relationship with a club means a client of his won't transfer there

  • @MubzxayStar
    @MubzxayStar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If this dude ever becomes a politician...
    I'd vote for him.

  • @MaxsMusicFootballWWEChannel
    @MaxsMusicFootballWWEChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should get high wages if (only if) they donate 30% of it to charity

  • @tdyerwestfield
    @tdyerwestfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We know the sole reason Cristiano Ronaldo left Real Madrid to join Juventus was because Italy had reduced the top rate of income tax earlier that same year. It seems that tax rates can have an effect on where players go.

  • @percymasina597
    @percymasina597 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Because they want more money, period. The fear of possibly losing all your money and becoming broke again or losing your career and being hugely indebted, is real. You can never be certain of anything in life. So.. Having more money alleviates those fears a little

  • @dazzaMusic
    @dazzaMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is also why footballers wind their contracts down like Bale he’s literally getting 2 million a month to sit on the bench at Madrid for a whole season you ain’t going to leave any time soon when your on that kind of money.

  • @DidYaServe
    @DidYaServe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    TH-cam content creators deserve higher wages. They make the platform. Basic income.

  • @SINGH-dm2ug
    @SINGH-dm2ug 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Arsenal’s best signings since wenger left ?

  • @mintywebb
    @mintywebb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    But if a League one player earns £151000 they only pay the higher rate on that final pound.

  • @Benno7844
    @Benno7844 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t believe this video defends a footballer earning over £100k per year because his wife doesn’t work and he has kids to support, pathetic, absolutely pathetic. What’s stopping a footballer studying for a career beyond football for example? Why doesn’t his wife go out to work? What a load of absolute crap…

  • @alexandero50000
    @alexandero50000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Because the sport marketing etc. is greedy, so people turn greedy as a result of it

    • @alexandero50000
      @alexandero50000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnM-sw4sc cause u don't need to earn as much. Neither does he. You're talking a wrong right with another wrong. And that how greed is created. Thx for confirming

    • @alexandero50000
      @alexandero50000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnM-sw4sc because the line is endless towards the point people cant afford it anymore to pay those amounts. All to do with basic economics and inflations. The 'fair share' isn't really a 'fair share' if you get 300k a week and still wanting more, whilst playing a peoples game. At the end of the day, the consumers are paying, which in the end they can't afford cuz idiots inside the game keep demanding more.

  • @Yk-ik2kx
    @Yk-ik2kx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @niksv4165
    @niksv4165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Day 306: Ways to fix VAR with your suggestions

    • @ethandalton6480
      @ethandalton6480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't fix something that isn't broken.

  • @michaelgurd7477
    @michaelgurd7477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Footballer wages are like film star wages. Tom Hanks is always going to be paid many many times more than a no name co star.
    Love to see Alfies take on agents.

  • @jacknelson927
    @jacknelson927 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine asking more money than your 200 thousands pounds a week so many people don’t get that much in a year so those players should stop asking more cause it disrespects the fans that basically pay their inflated egos and wages

  • @sheldon97sheldon
    @sheldon97sheldon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    DAY 3
    Can you please do a documentary of "How on earth did Leicester City win the Premier League?"

  • @domhuckle
    @domhuckle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Football is the only way working class people can squeeze the very rich

    • @domhuckle
      @domhuckle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plus, astronomical wealth attracts folk who might otherwise not play football and who might just be a Messi/Ronaldo

  • @karlhans4116
    @karlhans4116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hmm.. because
    1. one serious injury and you are gone
    2. after 33-35 you have next 40 years (on average) in trouble
    3. to being in competition with other high earners..
    and about taxing over 45% to 60%
    hmm surely not a good idea..
    it would stagnant the economy and entrepreneurs would have less money to invest in their next project which could provide more better paying jobs (in general entrepreneurs create most jobs)

    • @danpreston564
      @danpreston564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even if a player has a career ending injury at 25 they’ve probably earned more than the average person will earn in the next 50 years. They have a good base to go and have another career like the rest of us.

    • @daviddavid2890
      @daviddavid2890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      On point 2. After 33-35 they are probably well beyond 100 million in career earnings so if they have 40 years of trouble after that they've been careless and deserve it

    • @karlhans4116
      @karlhans4116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@daviddavid2890 well beyond 100 million are you crazy?
      Only 10-20 players at best would have 100 millions after their retirement

    • @daviddavid2890
      @daviddavid2890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karlhans4116 the main point of the video was about players earning hundreds of thousands a week thus likely to reach 100 million career earnings

  • @RyuzakiTaiyou
    @RyuzakiTaiyou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 245)
    I will not give up until the video is made or Alfie himself tells me to stop. Everyone else telling me that will be ignored.
    If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.

  • @Dench999or911
    @Dench999or911 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two words: Player. Power.