Thank you for making this video. I thought I had just wasted good money on these triggers. This fix is cheap, easy and the improvement is monumental! I haven't found this info anywhere else so kudos to you for putting this out there.
Boom! just like that we are in working. Thank you for posting! I accidently order the 35 MM disks which are bigger than the blue foam and can "buzz" a bit but actually work a million times better than the original. no regrets and now i do not have to order different triggers. Thanks again.
I've used red shots before to varying degrees of success, but I had no clue that the piezo is located right behind the black tape on the bottom of the foam. That's an odd design. You'd think the piezo would be glued to the metal bracket with the trigger foam on top of it, which is how all other triggers are designed. I wonder how good it would perform if you modded it to be like other triggers.
Thanks! I got that either on eBay or Amazon (search "soldering third hand" and you should find them). Honestly, I rarely use it. But it came in handy to hold things up for the video :-)
Thx for this useful tip and this great video. I want to use it with a Roland Td-17 drummodule. What kind of pad type in the setting will be good for the red-hot? Do you have some good setting tips? Greetings from Germany. 👋😁
Danke! I had a Yamaha module. But I just scrolled through the different pad types in the module, picked the one that worked best, and adjusted the pad settings as needed. For example, you might need to tweak the pad settings for single ply vs. double ply heads, how tight/loose the head is, how you play, etc.). I hope it works for you!
I may give this a try, thank you for the tutorial. I wonder, would you be willing to upload a video demonstrating how well your modified triggers work, showing how well they distinguish soft vs hard strikes as well as fast, consecutive strikes?
Well, the background music was recorded using my modded triggers (if you can hear it over my yapping). :-) Kick, 2 toms, and snare. Throw on some headphones and hopefully that'll give you an idea. For me, the mod took these from "I can't use them" to "I've played out with them." I only tried (and ever planned to use) these on mesh heads. However, if you have the same velocity problem with mylar heads, I'd bet the mod would fix it.
Saw this video a month ago or so and I was always a bit frustrated with my Red Shots, because they were just a bit gibberish on my mesh. Ordered those Piezo things on Amazon and they work like a charm! I have no idea about any downsides and why this video has only so little views, but thanks a lot! :)
Don't waste time with glue, perfectly fine to use double sided carpet tape. Would also insulate the piezo from the head using neoprene, cut up a mousepad up or use furniture floor protectors
So I have the chrome elite triggers. Would you recommend this mod for these. They track ok but I'd love to have em track better if i can. I'm using them with a pearl Mimic Pro Module. Great video. Thanks!!!!!
Hm. I've never used those. But if they're not cutting it for you, it might be worth trying to mod one of them. From a pic, it looks like you could try carefully peeling back the thin pad that separates the sensor from the drum head (where the wires are sandwiched between the larger and thinner pad). Maybe peel back a small spot around the wires to see if it also has a smaller rectangular sensor (like the ones I removed from the Red Shots). If so, I'd *guess* replacing it would be a similar improvement. (And if it already has a larger round sensor like the ones I added, maybe re-glue what you peeled up and abort mission.)
The chrome elite triggers are way higher quality than red-shots (as they should be considering the price). You should never have to modify high end e-drum equipment like that to get good triggering results. 99% of the time, the cause is something other than the trigger itself. Are you using mesh or acoustic heads with them? If you're using mesh, it's most likely an issue with how they're tuned, especially if you're using one-ply heads like Remo Silentstrokes, they are trickier to get good triggering out of because they vibrate more than 2 and 3 ply mesh heads. Investing in good mesh heads makes a huge difference with triggering accuracy. They also require a lot of trial and error with the trigger settings inside the module. If you haven't fiddled with those a lot, it's worth sinking some time into.
I did the same replacement of the piezos only difference that i made its that i cut the blue sponge in half inserted the piezo solder it then glue it togueter to have a little more resistance qhen hitting the drums
Not better if using new foam, piezo size? I try do this staff many years ago, but foam too small with that piezo, and, when you using alot, or remove triggers to box, and to drum- someday its fall off..
Thank you for making this video. I thought I had just wasted good money on these triggers. This fix is cheap, easy and the improvement is monumental! I haven't found this info anywhere else so kudos to you for putting this out there.
Boom! just like that we are in working. Thank you for posting! I accidently order the 35 MM disks which are bigger than the blue foam and can "buzz" a bit but actually work a million times better than the original. no regrets and now i do not have to order different triggers. Thanks again.
excellent mod. i'll keep this in mind once i pick up an acoustic kit (i already have the triggers)
Good shite, On point and 100% worked for my single zone purpose. Thank you.
Do you think it would be possible to use multiple of these piezoes linked to one 1/4” trigger and spaced around a single drum head?
I've used red shots before to varying degrees of success, but I had no clue that the piezo is located right behind the black tape on the bottom of the foam. That's an odd design. You'd think the piezo would be glued to the metal bracket with the trigger foam on top of it, which is how all other triggers are designed. I wonder how good it would perform if you modded it to be like other triggers.
Thank you for your video. Great stuff!
Good quality video man. Where did you get that little soldering station?
Thanks! I got that either on eBay or Amazon (search "soldering third hand" and you should find them). Honestly, I rarely use it. But it came in handy to hold things up for the video :-)
Thx for this useful tip and this great video. I want to use it with a Roland Td-17 drummodule. What kind of pad type in the setting will be good for the red-hot? Do you have some good setting tips? Greetings from Germany. 👋😁
Danke! I had a Yamaha module. But I just scrolled through the different pad types in the module, picked the one that worked best, and adjusted the pad settings as needed. For example, you might need to tweak the pad settings for single ply vs. double ply heads, how tight/loose the head is, how you play, etc.). I hope it works for you!
@@Wrigglyaudio worked perfect. And so much more sensitive and realistic. 😁👍
Yes!!! This is perfect because mine sounded like shit and now I can use them
Awesome, glad it worked for ya!
Great Work, thank you!
I may give this a try, thank you for the tutorial.
I wonder, would you be willing to upload a video demonstrating how well your modified triggers work, showing how well they distinguish soft vs hard strikes as well as fast, consecutive strikes?
Well, the background music was recorded using my modded triggers (if you can hear it over my yapping). :-) Kick, 2 toms, and snare. Throw on some headphones and hopefully that'll give you an idea. For me, the mod took these from "I can't use them" to "I've played out with them."
I only tried (and ever planned to use) these on mesh heads. However, if you have the same velocity problem with mylar heads, I'd bet the mod would fix it.
no video of it in action?
Saw this video a month ago or so and I was always a bit frustrated with my Red Shots, because they were just a bit gibberish on my mesh. Ordered those Piezo things on Amazon and they work like a charm! I have no idea about any downsides and why this video has only so little views, but thanks a lot! :)
Don't waste time with glue, perfectly fine to use double sided carpet tape. Would also insulate the piezo from the head using neoprene, cut up a mousepad up or use furniture floor protectors
So I have the chrome elite triggers. Would you recommend this mod for these. They track ok but I'd love to have em track better if i can. I'm using them with a pearl Mimic Pro Module. Great video. Thanks!!!!!
Hm. I've never used those. But if they're not cutting it for you, it might be worth trying to mod one of them. From a pic, it looks like you could try carefully peeling back the thin pad that separates the sensor from the drum head (where the wires are sandwiched between the larger and thinner pad). Maybe peel back a small spot around the wires to see if it also has a smaller rectangular sensor (like the ones I removed from the Red Shots). If so, I'd *guess* replacing it would be a similar improvement. (And if it already has a larger round sensor like the ones I added, maybe re-glue what you peeled up and abort mission.)
The chrome elite triggers are way higher quality than red-shots (as they should be considering the price). You should never have to modify high end e-drum equipment like that to get good triggering results. 99% of the time, the cause is something other than the trigger itself. Are you using mesh or acoustic heads with them? If you're using mesh, it's most likely an issue with how they're tuned, especially if you're using one-ply heads like Remo Silentstrokes, they are trickier to get good triggering out of because they vibrate more than 2 and 3 ply mesh heads. Investing in good mesh heads makes a huge difference with triggering accuracy. They also require a lot of trial and error with the trigger settings inside the module. If you haven't fiddled with those a lot, it's worth sinking some time into.
Where did you get your piezo disc replacements and what size were they?
I got them on Amazon. Those were 20mm diameter.
@@Wrigglyaudio A link in the description to the replacement piezos would be helpful.
@@AndrewKangas Yup, it would be. 🙂 Just added it!
You can buy prewired discs cheap too.
Thanks man!🙌🙌🙌
I did the same replacement of the piezos only difference that i made its that i cut the blue sponge in half inserted the piezo solder it then glue it togueter to have a little more resistance qhen hitting the drums
Not better if using new foam, piezo size? I try do this staff many years ago, but foam too small with that piezo, and, when you using alot, or remove triggers to box, and to drum- someday its fall off..
First!
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I don't mean to be stupid here spend the money and get a decent drum module from D drums that's a whole lot of freaking hassle good Lord
Spend all that money for a solution or spend a few bucks, learn a little bit, and do 3 or 4 minutes of work (I guess some people call "hassle")?