The Trick to Using Kick Drum Triggers
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Using a kick trigger allows you to drastically alter the sound of your bass drum without having to swap out your drums, heads, or change tunings. This is especially useful in live settings where you can give each song its own unique feel in a pinch. Using a Roland TM-2, Sean Lang will break down the setup and different features you should know to help get you started with your first time triggering.
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I had never heard of this before. How cool!
Snare sounds sick!
I have an rt10k mounted on top of my 20" bass drum. Silentstroke head with 2 pillows inside and an Evans Eq Patch to protect the mesh. Triggers amazingly well on my td20 and feels great. Ive played a kd80, kd120, kd 140, kd10 and kd 7s. To me my conversion feels better than all of them.
Thanks so much for this video, it's great i love it
Do you need an audio interface to trigger your drum real time? I just want to trigger my bass drum, am I able to just plug my headphones into the module and hear the triggers through the headphones real time straight from the module?
Drumeo, you could've done so much more with this video. You basically had someone act out the directions of this unit. These are not tips/tricks, these are directions...
I get that a majority of your audience are beginner/intermediate, but what are you providing for your expert/pro drummers?... Think about how easy it would be to deliver a concept and give bits of useful info to each level of drummer in the same video.
Good feedback, thanks for sharing!
Drumeo I would also like to add that I enjoy your content and consume it regularly. Please keep’em coming!
it might help if you provide an example to support, Drumeo is great, but they are not mind readers!
Drumeo is great and not mind readers, I agree.
The information in this video could be common knowledge to some viewers while also being completely new knowledge for others. Still, others might fall somewhere between the two. This unit is nearly 4 years old at posting of this video and has SOOOOO many great features we didn't hear about here.
I simply made a suggestion based on my current knowledge of triggering kick drums. Other features of this unit that are more useful to me include how to split the 2 inputs so you can trigger 4 different drums at once, or how to use your own wav files through the unit as instrument sounds/loops/whole tracks. Or, WHY you would want to trigger drums (need for a sound you can't get acoustically, sound limitations when playing live, etc), and finally a fresh outlook on how to incorporate triggered/electronic elements into your acoustic setup for the 2018 drummer. =]
love the hi hats
What. Up dude👏👏👍🏆
Nice snare! What kind of snare??
COOL STUFF, so the only sound coming out of the pa speakers would be the kick drum correct? wonder if that would be ok to mesh with vocals on another input/output
dremeo,can you help me.. my kick bass rim is to long ,amd when i attached this trigger to skin,it won't work and hanging. do you have any solution can share here?thanks and appreciated Sir.
Are there sample modules that can be controlled via footswitch (or other simple solutions)? I've got a band which goes through different genres, for example we would go from Ambient Rock to Black Metal. In this case, I want the triggered sample turned off in the Ambient Rock section and kick in in the Black Metal part (without having to hit weak/be under the trigger's threshhold in the Ambient Rock section).
Yes the Roland TM-6PRO has a foot switch. But for less money you can buy a SPD-SX, also has foot switch, you can hook it up with 2 external trigger + you have one of the best products Roland has ever made for drummers.
I understand theat module produces the sound you choose, but why we dont hear the natural sound (in parallel)when hitting the drum? Mic not picking it
I have an electronic kit. But I'd like to buy some triggers cause I can only use one arm. Does anyone know how to build a Rick Allen style set up
Nice shoes!
Sir ive been struggling for quite a while on this matter and that is how to start progressing and where to because there r a variety of lessons so please do reply.Thank you
video creation date ..2018
There's actually no "trick" here. You basically just videotaped a plug and play. Maybe some in depth information on positioning or sensitivity settings or common problems, IE double triggers yadda yadda. Disjointed:(
I really would love it if I knew what trigger is used on the kik??¿
Can u play with triggers without drum module
Would've been nice to see how they tune and mute the kick drum to get the most optimal settings
you can also change the pitch of the triggered sound through the unit.
use an on pedal style trigger. like footblaster
Which cable is needed to attach the trigger unit to the module? Many thanks.
TS 6,3
Hello I have a problem with my RT30K and my TM2 module ... despite the tightening of my kick drum its padding, I have no sound when I hit gently (a little but not when I hit really light ...) I have yet set 35 senses and 0 theshold ... it's normal ? otherwise what should i do? thank
Check your connection make sure the tm 2 recognizes the trigger in set up. Lower your threshold settings
Also select your sound curve. It is probably set to linear or some other dynamic that doesn’t register extremely light hits
I just wondering..
Does Roland RT30K Trigger compatible to Yamaha Module (DTX6K-X)?
bro sidechained his voice to the kick
Wtf? The electronic music sounds so fun! 😱 I thought tha the triggers were for that metal sound that almost every one is using 🤔
What kind of trigger are you using?
Donald Ramsey they are Roland triggers
@@jeffreydean5112 Cool should be easy since they only make one. Ha. This video sucks!
drum triggers also allows you to play the bass drum twice a fast, but i don't know why every musican talking about changing sounds, on your drums. I want to know what kind of triggers i need to buy !!!
It's a nightmare unless you always use your own kick drum trust and loud gigs always need different settings .
You never know someone is canadian until it slips ooouwt.
Can you eliminate dynamics?
I still don't get how it can change the sound of an acoustic drum
It doesn't, it uses your kick to trigger an electronic sound that you blend with the acoustic sound :) so when you hit the kick, you effectively get 2 sounds...
declaration14 “your getting prerecorded BD sounds “samples” (some sound files will be modified as opposed to different BD recording) So theoretically you have no micing ,tuning ,phase , bleeding issues.Hopefully they’re great sound files of great BD s recorded well . I don’t think video showed effects adding .Most speed metal guys live are triggering BD .They can use light beaters ,tune the heads for ease of play instead of sound and even play light and fast but get any sound / volume they want.
A very limited piece of kit. I actually returned mine to the retailer and got a refund.
I remember when people believe that triggers where cheating
I LOVE Roland products, but the "trick" is not to buy this trigger. Go with Axis E3 or OnTrigger or Footblaster. Personally, I have the E3 and it's amazingly accurate. No double triggering, no false triggering and the dynamic range is that of an acoustic drum. (All this and my threshold is adjusted to ZERO on my module.)
If only axis can sell them for $77 (current price for rt30k) then why not.
@@queso5566 yeah, they're pricy
Like
You surprised me with the doubles lol
Or quads? Crap
"inexepensive" - well ok then :D
it actually really is cheap :p (in comparison to the rest of the kit)
179 EU, new
Nice ad.
I knew there would be the "triggers are cheating" brigade, who have no idea what triggers actually do or how they work. If triggers are cheating, so is anyone who plays electronic drums.
I used to be under the impression that a trigger repeated your stroke so that if you were playing 1/16 notes on the bass drum it would sound like 1/32 notes- and that Lars Ulrich used triggers hence Lars Ulrich is a cheater..lol. I swear that was the only thing I knew about triggers at first 😂
@@bensmitt7088 Technically you could use it for that, by cranking up the sensitivity and removing the dynamics, etc etc. But I never understood why people thought that would be feasible, if you give it a second of thought. Firstly, you'd need to synchronise it to a specific speed, so you'd have to play to a click and you'd only ever be able to play at one tempo. Secondly, you wouldn't be able to play anything else but a stream of straight-line notes, so any rock beats would be out of the question. But you probably realised all that long ago! ;-)
I think the only thing you could use that on is a short video demo where you're trying to sound fast and play only double-bass in one long stream without interruption. Unless you had a guy switching it on and off for you during the song?
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How many times did you mess up the intro before you nailed it ? There’s no way you got that tongue twisting intro out first try.
Instead of using triggers and buying the separately why don't opt for electronic drums? 🙃🤔
Most of the time kick triggers are just there to reinforce the kick sound and make it more 'even', resulting in more consistent live mix.
Plus - and it's just from my personal experience - electronic drums might lack the feel of an acoustic kit. A real kit looks way cooler too... :D
As the other reply stated, hybrid setups are useful. Alternatively,you can convert an entire acoustic kit to electronic. That way you have trigger sounds to do whatever you wish with, while still having the stage visuals of a real kit.
@@BananaManPL when you r saying "to reinforce the kick sound"... Does there should also be a normal mic placed in front of the bass drum... Or there will be no need of mics only triggers?
It really depends on what sound you're going for. Some drummers will only use the triggered sound, making it really predictable from show to show, others might blend it with the kick mic only to add some 'click' and retain most of the original sound and dynamics of the drum. Triggers themselves don't need mics to work, though I'm not a fan of replacing mics with triggers completely.
@@BananaManPL Thanks
it helped
I think I’m even more confused about what they do after watching this
For the metal guy you forgot to remove any dynamics. Velocity on all hits must be 127
lol
Bollocks generalisation.
@@Hellwyck ok so this was a joke about stereotypes. What you do is you pick an extreme thing that many individuals in a certain category often do and apply said thing to the entire category, making sure to express it in a way that is as blunt as possible, and hope that the reader will relate to it because maybe they have a friend who does this, or they listen to a bunch of deathcore and they'll be like "aaah yeah they do that don't they" and maybe if you're lucky someone will reply with "lol"
Nnicee nnicee
Or just practice
And the trick is???
Alliteration
EAD10 is better
Don’t
Saved you 5:30
Cheap Dynamic mic inside the kick drum instead of trigger. Thank me later!
I heard NO difference other than the electronic.
What a cheaters way to make up for lack of talent. My uncle was a endorsed instructor for Paiste cymbals for well over a decade, he would roll over in his grave to see this. Partly because it's cool to add different sounds to your kicks, but mainly because real old school drummers like Bobby Rock, who currently plays an 8 pedal set up, doesn't need something like this to incorporate the added sounds overlapped. He does that himself, because he is a god among drummers. When I found out the drummer for as I lay dying was a trigger happy kinda guy, it really killed it for me. Love the band and jam them often but it sucks knowing hes cheating. Some of the runs are so hard, with the stutter steps in there. Now I personally dont feel as bad for not being able to run like that, because he has assistance.
I don't think you realize what triggers do. They don't make you able to play any better or different. They just change or add to the sound coming out. Not cheating. If you can't do a hard run, the triggers don't do it for you or make it any easier.
Can't believe you listen to 'extreme' metal and don't know that 99% of their drummers trigger the kicks. it's pretty much mandatory.
Mind you I was the same when I found out nearly all bands record songs in bits and then they are stitched together to complete it.
Except for Gene Hoglan. He's a machine.
You're a fool and have no idea what you are talking about
Thats cool about your uncle and all but thats not how it works. In the context of metal, all the trigger does is supply "click" that a live mic wont capture to help cut through a busy mix. Anyone who has used triggers will tell you they dont "assist" you in the way you think.