It was his striking that opened the can up. Mitchell head to head on the ground should win. Rogan wasn't that off, he just forgot to factor some things in.
@@Bucephalus84 What makes you think it's a clear cut win in BJJ for Mitchell given both of their accolades in jiu-jitsu? Based on what do you give a clear edge to Mitchell?
Valentina coming into the UFC on short notice as a "pure Muay Thai practicioner" and proceeding to throw around a bigger wrestler in her debut was eye opening. And then she armbarred the scariest grappler in the division at the time in Julianna Pena. And then she ragdolled Jessica Andrade despite it being the only area Andrade should have had a chance.
@@flyingmonke.......... the guy has *ONE* decision win on his *ENTIRE* resume and suddenly he lays and prays? Lmao if anything Ngannou wrestling played right into Ganes hands as he has notable submission wins off his back
@@flyingmonke that’s a long winded way to call Ngannou smart. He has power but he’s not remotely as technical as Gane on the feet so why would he lose his belt in a point fighting match when he was able to manhandle him?
Omg u casuals are so weird I've watched 1000s of ppl get slammed on their head in street fight videos does that mean those ppl even had wrestling skills NO anyone who's aware of another persons limbs in close quarters can pick someone up and dump them yall act like he's D1 or something lmao
Omg u casuals are so weird I've watched 1000s of ppl get slammed on their head in street fight videos does that mean those ppl even had wrestling skills NO anyone who's aware of another persons limbs in close quarters can pick someone up and dump them yall act like he's D1 or something lmao
@@daveledonio5793 imagine Francis going to boxing... And training with George Foreman and Roberto Duran George Foreman definitely knows who he is and will gladly teach him as he already taught a former heavyweight champ in Daniel Cormier some boxing tricks And training with Roberto Duran is unlikely but not impossible Duran is very friendly and likes sharing his tricks with fighters and newbies Francis with the sticky hands technique, and the manipulation tactics of George Foreman and their superb knowledge of cutting the ring will make Francis a living nightmare 😬 Francis learned how to wrestle well in just a few years, him learning well from Duran and George isn't unlikely
@@remyhavoc4463 I wouldn't say Francis learned to wrestle "well" dude, he learned some basic takedown defence and some very basic takedowns which combined with his bulk are pretty effective against a much smaller wrestler (Stipe is like 20 lighter than Francis it's nuts) and against a guy who's much less experienced in MMA (but still had a better ground game for some reason) and again also significantly smaller. If you had a legit grappling threat like Prime Fedor or Kevin Randleman from the old Pride day's, or even someone like Prime Couture or Lesnar, they would just submit Francis despite the difference in size. Stipe is a decent wrestler to be sure, but we never really saw an extended grappling matchup like the first fight, he went for a single takedown, failed, and then decided to box Ngannou for whatever reason (one of the worst decisions in MMA history). Francis learned to wrestle, but it's below the level of his striking. I also don't think he's going to actually work on techncial striking either, he's been fighting for more than 11 years and has yet to actually change up his fighting style. He's going to do exactly what he did in MMA, rely on simple pocket fighting traps and headhunt. But someone like Fury is going to tear him apart technically (like Gane), and I'm fairly sure Wilder can KO Francis given they are both heavyweight power hitters but Wilder is a much better boxer. Francis has insane potential, the current HWD was too lacklustre to force him to grow into it, but I don't think some exhibition matches in Boxing (let's face it he's not actually going to become a boxer) are going to do anything now. I also don't see him tracking down Boxing greats like Foreman and getting trained by them, but I would like to see it
Like I get that a lot of people say this but I genuinely never fucking like Ronda Rousey and I never understood how she was so popular like especially when that shit aired for The ultimate fighter season that she was on you could tell she just such a disgusting person but with that being said.... I'm glad that she moved onto pro-wrestling because there's a shitload of money to make him there and because she's already a mega-star she doesn't really have to risk her health like up-and-coming pro wrestlers who have to make a name for himself by doing and saying shit and getting injured like she basically gets to flop around softly not really Russell because she's not good enough yet and make all that money like honestly she has a kid now so good for her. But she still I douchebag
One thing that these style switchups show is how complete of an mma fighter someone truly is. These are the people that can do anything in the cage. They have a high fight IQ, they know when they are winning and losing in a fight, they are quickly decisive, and they finish when necessary. Fighters like Usman, Whitaker, Jones, Volk, Yair, and Schevchenko. There are of course more examples, but that's just to name a few.
Most people underestimate how effective just being a high level generalist can be though, and before recent fights it was only really Jon Jones that you could talk about and have people instantly understand how good a complete fighter can be. Kamaru Usman is one of the best fighters alive, who stomped through a division filled with high level wrestler's, knocked out people who tried to stand-up with him, and has one of the longest win streak's and title runs in the sport. In fact Usman long ago exceeded the title defences of someone like Khabib, he had a 15-0 win streak in the UFC and cleaned out the division, and was well ahead of Leon Edwards until that beautiful head kick landed. But I really don't see him mentioned much at all relative to certain other fighters (like Khabib, or now Islam) despite that. I think there's a lot of focus on specialists like Khabib/Islam, Conor McGregor, Adesanya, and, before he left, Francis (who's less of a specialist and more of a bull let loose in the ring) over generalists, and I think this is largely because they can put on dominant performances against people who try to match or cannot defend against that specialization (which many take as them being "better" despite all it indicating is a stylistic advantage). Even back in the day there was so much focus on the poster child specialists like Ronda Rousey, and this hasn't really changed that much with the biggest fighters in the sport still largely being specialists. Hopefully people realize after the recent Volkanovski vs Makachev fight that to be truly great at MMA, you need high level basics in every aspect of the sport before you even consider making your own style. Any striking specialist would get eaten alive by Islam if they didn't have insane TDD, any grappling specialist would have to compete with him where he excels, but a guy who can do both at a high level, well clearly that's really hard to deal with. I'm honestly hoping we see more evolution towards style's like Volkanovski's, Usman's, or Jones'. Frankly it's more interesting to watch because they can setup anything from anywhere. The reason GSP could outwrestle elite wrestlers was by setting up takedowns with striking off of that wicked jab, and then when he got them down, pummelling them until he could maintain a good position. You get such interesting combinations when someone is good at both striking and grappling!
@@AveSicarius That was a lot to read haha but you get it and see things like I do I can clearly tell. It's exactly as you say. GSP is definitely on the list and I'd put Mighty Mouse on there too
@@ronswanson1410 Sorry dude, too much time on my hands and no real outlet for MMA discussion haha. Thanks for being patient and reading through it! Also would absolutely agree on DJ, one of the most well rounded and skilled fighters out there, if he was in a more popular division he would be in the same sentence as Jon Jones for even more casual fan's. Mighty Mouse has done things in the cage that make him look like a Street Fighter character more than a normal human. I think there's one clip of him suplexing (which he transitioned into from a wicked combination) his opponent and before they land he's already secured the armbar. It's nuts, and I know some people are biased against flyweight due to the notion of it not being as competitive, but Cejudo vs DJ 2 was a great showcase of two very good fighters with well-rounded skillsets (DJ just being superb in every angle and Cejudo having great wrestling and very solid boxing, the age old MMA combo). There's some controversy oved the decision as it was close, but still a great fight. Volkanovski vs Makachev actually reminded me of this a little bit, it was a very arguable decision (on both sides) that was decided by offensive grappling regarding the scoring.
@@AveSicarius Hah it's fine homie. One thing I know is making videos and talking about stuff is a great outlet. You're well spoken, I bet people would listen to you break down and recite tales from history. Totally. DJ's quick decisiveness was so damned scary and pairing that with his dynamic fighting style made him seem unreadable. I put him in top5 goat for sure. I only wish that division was shown more love.
@@ronswanson1410 Thanks for the vote of confidence buddy! My former partner was trying to convince my of something similar, or at least wanted me to try writing in an accessible online form like she did herself. I'm considering it, but need to sort other shit out first, pretty much life gets in the way. I'm a huge fan of Jack Slack's approach towards MMA discussion, so I wouldn't mind doing long form discussion of some kind at a point in the future when I have my shit together. DJ was criminally mistreated, regardless of talent, but given his skills it's even more ridiculous that they drove him into the arm's of ONE, like honestly I don't know how the UFC is going to continue forward when they keep alienating their top talent. First DJ, now Ngannou, the only people left are going to be guys like Jon Jones who've screwed up so badly they don't have another option...
* Mark Diacisie (dono how it spells) - from spectacular striker to wrestler * Ben Askren - from all american to one of the best strikers * Ortega - just got much better on the feet * Gaethge - from all american to scary striker * Tony - should I say smth? * GSP - from karate practicinor to the most efficient wrestler * Romero - from olimpic wrestler to monster on the feet * Aspinal - from jitser to dangerous heacy puncher
True! Cejudo is the most humble fighter ever. Ive never heard him bring up his metal 😅 he’s so humble its almost like he’s bending the knee in humility 😂
Got damn mma on point videos put me in a good mood, just the music, the voice over everything, it’s perfect, I would say I hope the UFC picks you guys up as an official show buuuut I would rather not pay
Cejudo against Reis was definitely the most jaw dropping to me. I couldn’t believe Henry made that improvement and adjustment to his striking, like he had been practicing his entire life and hiding it from us until that fight.
Francis lat 3 fights are the reason he is special. He blitzed Rosenstuik like a madman stuck on a propeller, then he stalked Stipe with precision striking and defended his championship with wrestling.
@@raul350raptor ya seriously I can pick up a guy I have 20 lbs over and hold him down, not hard lmao, Francis didn’t even try to do anything on the ground and risk position
11:10 respectfully this one is kind of silly IMO. They are heavyweights. And Francis jumped up in competition. Not being able to spark top contenders inside 60 seconds isn’t the same as being patient. I don’t think that was a product of a stylistic change rather a consequence of better fighters. Plus as I mentioned heavyweights need fewer punches. By that same logic Stipe went through the same journey knocking out werdum, overeem, and junior back to back before beating Francis with none seeing 3 minutes of fighting for a combined time of less than a round. He didn’t get more patient . Francis was a better challenge and he wasn’t able to land quite as cleanly
Werdum was underrated. He was that jiu jitsu guy who didn’t have striking, to beating the dog shit out of Cain on the feet before strangling him. Crazy that stipe shut that shit down right after that.
When I first hear the name Verdum I think of a guy crab walking towards a standing opponent because Fabrizio didn't want to be in an MMA match. He evolved over the years, but the crab walk embarrassment will never be forgotten
1:00 - I understand it’s a very short, essentially insignificant clip… but watching Topuria slip that noodle and throw that hellacious uppercut is pretty scary. Dude is a fucking compact destroyer.
Yair Rodriguez, Zabit Magomedsharipov, Michel Pereira, Corey Sandhagen, Tony Ferguson, Jiri Prochazka, Sean O'Malley, Stephen Thompson, Edson Barboza, Anderson Silva
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Dan Henderson basically change up his style because of his serious back and spine issues? I mean if you think about his like latter half this career he basically never wrestled which is weird coming from somebody who has and insanely impressive set of wrestling credentials. From what I have gathered that's basically why he shuffles and if it's hunched all the time but is able to continue to throw the right because it's one of the few things that doesn't bother him or cause him pain but that's why it's all hunched over all the time like I'm pretty sure he's at spin multiple surgeries to correct?
I knew Makhachev had underrated striking but even I was surprised at how good he look on the feet in that fight. He used Oliveira's pressure and recklessness against him by cracking him with counters. He also neutralized Oliveira's deadly clinch game as well. And the fact Makhachev was able to stand toe-to-toe with Alexander Volkanovski who is one of the best strikers in the UFC, is highly impressive.
Oliveria wasn't on form regarding his striking though, he was headhunting without any set-up. He does have a reckless style, but if you look at how he was actually fighting in the Makachev title fight he's very different to how he performed in his recent matches. He's so focused on the headhunt that he ignores everything else, runs onto a counter, and obviously the rest is history. I honestly think that he lost the mental game, look at the surrounding buildup to the fight. Charles' is basically treated as the underdog, as if he's already lost, after being stripped of his title, meanwhile the fight is booked in Dubai, not Brazil as one might expect, and the UFC is virtually already promoting Islam as champion to get that juicy Khabib fanbase. Charles' in the interviews is adamant he's going to KO Islam, and just like Aldo Vs McGregor charges in chin first onto a hard counter. Mental health is a huge part of any fight, and Charles seemed to be falling apart in the buildup to this. Islam has very basic striking, but what he does have is great accuracy (something Volk talked about too), and he uses this to land solid counters against fighters even if they are a technically better fighter than he is. Combined with his counter takedown threat, it makes the prospect of trying to push through his reach rather dangerous (the takedown on Volk in the fourth round was a counter as Volk blitzed in to move past Islam's reach). It's less his striking alone, he'd get eaten alive in a pure striking matchup even with a smaller guy like Volk, it's more that combined with his other skills it's good enough to deal with most people. Still needs work though. It's a more advanced version of Khabib's far more basic striking. If someone is so worried about the takedown, they are less likely to be watching your hands, letting you land shots you might not otherwise be able to.
@@madgavin7568 I think the Charles fight was very much to do with Charles' mental state as much as it was the striking matchup itself. Charles was headhunting, he wasn't setting anything up, and he was clearly not using whatever gameplan his camp had come up with to deal with Islam. He normally has a reckless style, but he looked very different from when he fought objectively better striker's. It's like Aldo Vs McGregor, if you lose the mental game, and focus too much on trying to get a quick KO to prove yourself, it's very easy to get caught by a counter, especially if the opponent is an accurate counterstriker, which Islam is. I would point out that Islam is a counter striker that is four inches taller than Volk (Volk has one inch longer arm's but he's still at a significant effective reach disadvantage), if he's not landing there, that's a real issue, especially for a counter striker. Islam found it very easy to land body kicks precisely because of that difference in length, and Volk basically has to run through counters to get to his preferred range, were he the same height as Islam I think the standup would have looked very different. The size advantage is also notable regarding power, but Volk is a freak and somehow not only took no real damage but also managed to outmuscle Islam at various points. But still Islam is a good 8-10 kilos heavier on fight night most likely, so that's a big difference in power. What Islam has is great accuracy (Volk himself talked about how good his eye is after the fight), his actual striking, technically speaking, is very basic. But he sits down on counters and can accurately tag guys time and time again, which is very effective when combined with his grappling skillset. He's still got a long way to go though, the fact that Alex could get anywhere near him and continually do damage despite that is both a sign that Volkanovski is an MMA god, but also that Islam has holes in his gameplan right now. I think Islam is a solid fighter with great potential, but I think his striking game gets overhyped quite a bit. I'd like to see if he could go to Welterweight (arguably his natural division) and compete with a guy like Usman who's closer in size but also very well rounded (they are the same height and the build isn't that different).
Awesome content as always. Worth every $150 millions Spotify deal. Masvidal who koed Till at London can beat every contender including Usman and Covington. But fame got him I guess. While Masvidal was fighting for real on the street for TH-cam videos, these other fighters are on achools, practicing collegiate wrestling. They are different beast. This is why i will always love him.
8:36 This is actually a chest compression. Instead of directly cutting off blood flow to the brain, you put so much pressure on your opponents chest their lungs can't expand enough to get oxygen. Shit fucking sucks.
If Miocic had any submission skills he may have been able to do it in the first fight. But Miocic has no submissions whatsoever on his record, its a very overlooked weakness in his game IMO.
0:55 Joe "The BJJ MASTER" Rogan discrediting Topuria's grappling, just for him to pancake the living hell outta Mitchell, was priceless
Mitchell is an American hero, the leftist judges set him up to fail against an immigrant. He actually won that fight.
It was his striking that opened the can up. Mitchell head to head on the ground should win. Rogan wasn't that off, he just forgot to factor some things in.
@@Bucephalus84 I don't even believe that part, I think even in a grappling tourney topuria would melt Mitchell
@@well_as_an_expert_id_say he'd sub him, but it wouldn't be easy, both are as legit as it get when it comes to BJJ
@@Bucephalus84 What makes you think it's a clear cut win in BJJ for Mitchell given both of their accolades in jiu-jitsu?
Based on what do you give a clear edge to Mitchell?
#1 - Conor's "oh you're a wrestler now" style change against Nate
Nate was ready
You deserve a like
@@danielpkilmartin you could say he wasn’t surprised
Then *McGregor* *Tee'd* off on that *Lanky* *String* *of* *Piss* in the second fight
@Devin Burkett it was a 48-47 majority decision, but sure. Go off, king.
No one was ready for Askren’s spinning backfist
It was one of the most phenomenal weapons ever deployed in the octogon.
Especially not Askren
Glad to see he taught the secret attack to his son Chase Cooper.
the back fist of doom
Chael was
Valentina coming into the UFC on short notice as a "pure Muay Thai practicioner" and proceeding to throw around a bigger wrestler in her debut was eye opening. And then she armbarred the scariest grappler in the division at the time in Julianna Pena. And then she ragdolled Jessica Andrade despite it being the only area Andrade should have had a chance.
Couldn’t have said it much better a true 5 tool player
and shevchenko was oustruck that fight 3 rounds to none. she just held kaufman down.
She's the women's GOAT for a reason 🐐
She already had a Judo background before going into the UFC
@@Blackhaze3000 Yes but the fans and commentators didnt know that
Ngannou and his wrestling vs Gane was unexpected af.
Neghroannu is a lay and prayer. He couldn't handle gane on the feet, how he finna handle Fury and Wilder? Crazy
@@flyingmonke they can't kick
@@flyingmonke.......... the guy has *ONE* decision win on his *ENTIRE* resume and suddenly he lays and prays? Lmao if anything Ngannou wrestling played right into Ganes hands as he has notable submission wins off his back
@@flyingmonke that’s a long winded way to call Ngannou smart. He has power but he’s not remotely as technical as Gane on the feet so why would he lose his belt in a point fighting match when he was able to manhandle him?
Omg u casuals are so weird I've watched 1000s of ppl get slammed on their head in street fight videos does that mean those ppl even had wrestling skills NO anyone who's aware of another persons limbs in close quarters can pick someone up and dump them yall act like he's D1 or something lmao
Bas is one of my favorite evolutions ever
Francis learning to wrestle is the scariest thing
Omg u casuals are so weird I've watched 1000s of ppl get slammed on their head in street fight videos does that mean those ppl even had wrestling skills NO anyone who's aware of another persons limbs in close quarters can pick someone up and dump them yall act like he's D1 or something lmao
@@youknow2849 salty
sucks we will never get to see more of it in ufc
@@daveledonio5793 imagine Francis going to boxing... And training with George Foreman and Roberto Duran
George Foreman definitely knows who he is and will gladly teach him as he already taught a former heavyweight champ in Daniel Cormier some boxing tricks
And training with Roberto Duran is unlikely but not impossible
Duran is very friendly and likes sharing his tricks with fighters and newbies
Francis with the sticky hands technique, and the manipulation tactics of George Foreman and their superb knowledge of cutting the ring will make Francis a living nightmare 😬
Francis learned how to wrestle well in just a few years, him learning well from Duran and George isn't unlikely
@@remyhavoc4463
I wouldn't say Francis learned to wrestle "well" dude, he learned some basic takedown defence and some very basic takedowns which combined with his bulk are pretty effective against a much smaller wrestler (Stipe is like 20 lighter than Francis it's nuts) and against a guy who's much less experienced in MMA (but still had a better ground game for some reason) and again also significantly smaller. If you had a legit grappling threat like Prime Fedor or Kevin Randleman from the old Pride day's, or even someone like Prime Couture or Lesnar, they would just submit Francis despite the difference in size. Stipe is a decent wrestler to be sure, but we never really saw an extended grappling matchup like the first fight, he went for a single takedown, failed, and then decided to box Ngannou for whatever reason (one of the worst decisions in MMA history). Francis learned to wrestle, but it's below the level of his striking.
I also don't think he's going to actually work on techncial striking either, he's been fighting for more than 11 years and has yet to actually change up his fighting style. He's going to do exactly what he did in MMA, rely on simple pocket fighting traps and headhunt. But someone like Fury is going to tear him apart technically (like Gane), and I'm fairly sure Wilder can KO Francis given they are both heavyweight power hitters but Wilder is a much better boxer.
Francis has insane potential, the current HWD was too lacklustre to force him to grow into it, but I don't think some exhibition matches in Boxing (let's face it he's not actually going to become a boxer) are going to do anything now. I also don't see him tracking down Boxing greats like Foreman and getting trained by them, but I would like to see it
When he said "shuffle shuffle H bomb" I literally saw it in my mind's eye 🤣
Words cannot explain how excited I get when I hear Tommys voice.
Ronda went from judo style to pro wrestling
Hahahaha 😂
Like I get that a lot of people say this but I genuinely never fucking like Ronda Rousey and I never understood how she was so popular like especially when that shit aired for The ultimate fighter season that she was on you could tell she just such a disgusting person but with that being said.... I'm glad that she moved onto pro-wrestling because there's a shitload of money to make him there and because she's already a mega-star she doesn't really have to risk her health like up-and-coming pro wrestlers who have to make a name for himself by doing and saying shit and getting injured like she basically gets to flop around softly not really Russell because she's not good enough yet and make all that money like honestly she has a kid now so good for her. But she still I douchebag
Nice! Lol
She when from judo ,😂😂😂
One thing that these style switchups show is how complete of an mma fighter someone truly is. These are the people that can do anything in the cage. They have a high fight IQ, they know when they are winning and losing in a fight, they are quickly decisive, and they finish when necessary. Fighters like Usman, Whitaker, Jones, Volk, Yair, and Schevchenko. There are of course more examples, but that's just to name a few.
Most people underestimate how effective just being a high level generalist can be though, and before recent fights it was only really Jon Jones that you could talk about and have people instantly understand how good a complete fighter can be.
Kamaru Usman is one of the best fighters alive, who stomped through a division filled with high level wrestler's, knocked out people who tried to stand-up with him, and has one of the longest win streak's and title runs in the sport.
In fact Usman long ago exceeded the title defences of someone like Khabib, he had a 15-0 win streak in the UFC and cleaned out the division, and was well ahead of Leon Edwards until that beautiful head kick landed. But I really don't see him mentioned much at all relative to certain other fighters (like Khabib, or now Islam) despite that.
I think there's a lot of focus on specialists like Khabib/Islam, Conor McGregor, Adesanya, and, before he left, Francis (who's less of a specialist and more of a bull let loose in the ring) over generalists, and I think this is largely because they can put on dominant performances against people who try to match or cannot defend against that specialization (which many take as them being "better" despite all it indicating is a stylistic advantage). Even back in the day there was so much focus on the poster child specialists like Ronda Rousey, and this hasn't really changed that much with the biggest fighters in the sport still largely being specialists.
Hopefully people realize after the recent Volkanovski vs Makachev fight that to be truly great at MMA, you need high level basics in every aspect of the sport before you even consider making your own style. Any striking specialist would get eaten alive by Islam if they didn't have insane TDD, any grappling specialist would have to compete with him where he excels, but a guy who can do both at a high level, well clearly that's really hard to deal with.
I'm honestly hoping we see more evolution towards style's like Volkanovski's, Usman's, or Jones'. Frankly it's more interesting to watch because they can setup anything from anywhere. The reason GSP could outwrestle elite wrestlers was by setting up takedowns with striking off of that wicked jab, and then when he got them down, pummelling them until he could maintain a good position. You get such interesting combinations when someone is good at both striking and grappling!
@@AveSicarius That was a lot to read haha but you get it and see things like I do I can clearly tell. It's exactly as you say. GSP is definitely on the list and I'd put Mighty Mouse on there too
@@ronswanson1410
Sorry dude, too much time on my hands and no real outlet for MMA discussion haha. Thanks for being patient and reading through it! Also would absolutely agree on DJ, one of the most well rounded and skilled fighters out there, if he was in a more popular division he would be in the same sentence as Jon Jones for even more casual fan's.
Mighty Mouse has done things in the cage that make him look like a Street Fighter character more than a normal human. I think there's one clip of him suplexing (which he transitioned into from a wicked combination) his opponent and before they land he's already secured the armbar. It's nuts, and I know some people are biased against flyweight due to the notion of it not being as competitive, but Cejudo vs DJ 2 was a great showcase of two very good fighters with well-rounded skillsets (DJ just being superb in every angle and Cejudo having great wrestling and very solid boxing, the age old MMA combo). There's some controversy oved the decision as it was close, but still a great fight. Volkanovski vs Makachev actually reminded me of this a little bit, it was a very arguable decision (on both sides) that was decided by offensive grappling regarding the scoring.
@@AveSicarius Hah it's fine homie. One thing I know is making videos and talking about stuff is a great outlet. You're well spoken, I bet people would listen to you break down and recite tales from history.
Totally. DJ's quick decisiveness was so damned scary and pairing that with his dynamic fighting style made him seem unreadable. I put him in top5 goat for sure. I only wish that division was shown more love.
@@ronswanson1410
Thanks for the vote of confidence buddy! My former partner was trying to convince my of something similar, or at least wanted me to try writing in an accessible online form like she did herself. I'm considering it, but need to sort other shit out first, pretty much life gets in the way. I'm a huge fan of Jack Slack's approach towards MMA discussion, so I wouldn't mind doing long form discussion of some kind at a point in the future when I have my shit together.
DJ was criminally mistreated, regardless of talent, but given his skills it's even more ridiculous that they drove him into the arm's of ONE, like honestly I don't know how the UFC is going to continue forward when they keep alienating their top talent. First DJ, now Ngannou, the only people left are going to be guys like Jon Jones who've screwed up so badly they don't have another option...
When I hear Verdum I remember that time he was almost ankle picked by Tony Ferguson
i think anyone who knew Tuporia knew he could KO or submit you by the time he fought Bryce Mitchell
Not paddy the baddy.
@@andrewdavidwhyte buddy paddy would get eaten
Wrestlers’ ability to pick up striking (see Hendo, Couture, etc.) never ceases to amaze.
How could you not include TJ Dillashaw?
He went from a wrestler with a right hand to a world class striker who destroyed Renan Barao
I know right? Especially when they have Ngannou as #1 for learning basic wrestling and pacing himself...
Khalil Rountree. Hands down. I think he’s really found a style that’s working for him.
Muay thai with oblique kicks, pretty much
@@smorgasborgas Truuuue, but he stomping like dudes’ knees stole from him.
Fook him he lost his last one
@@AxaFin Against Jacoby? Yeah, that was a pretty close fight. Wouldn’t mind them running that back down the line.
He has, but I question where his actual ceiling lays.
Andy wang going from bjj black belt to stand up warrior
* Mark Diacisie (dono how it spells) - from spectacular striker to wrestler
* Ben Askren - from all american to one of the best strikers
* Ortega - just got much better on the feet
* Gaethge - from all american to scary striker
* Tony - should I say smth?
* GSP - from karate practicinor to the most efficient wrestler
* Romero - from olimpic wrestler to monster on the feet
* Aspinal - from jitser to dangerous heacy puncher
askren?
@@filipeventura2729 the spinning back fist of doom shall not be underestimated 😤
Askren is quite literally one of the worst strikers to compete at as high a level he did
@@buzz5020 u have no a single..... sense of humor 😶🤦
@@AlexOut1aw when you list 8 decent points and one retarded point it doesn’t come off as humour, more so confusing/stupid
True! Cejudo is the most humble fighter ever. Ive never heard him bring up his metal 😅 he’s so humble its almost like he’s bending the knee in humility 😂
Unfortunately Hendricks just fell head over heels in love with the feeling of landing that left Bomb
11:16 like, his face is like a cartoon drawing
Francis' power is something entirely different fr fr
Got damn mma on point videos put me in a good mood, just the music, the voice over everything, it’s perfect, I would say I hope the UFC picks you guys up as an official show buuuut I would rather not pay
When someone says fabricio werdum the first thing I think of is that interview he had with el cucuy😹😹😹
I don't care what anyone says, Cejudo looks like a mini me version of Chael in the faceoffs.
GSP. Man was a striker and then casually became the best wrestler in ufc history.
I came here to say the same thing. People seem to forget about that apparently. He no doubt should have been on this list
6:35 might just be great lighting/posing etc, but I don't think I've seen Nick looking that jacked before
y’all keep coming up with amazing ideas for videos! keep it up ❤️
Cejudo against Reis was definitely the most jaw dropping to me. I couldn’t believe Henry made that improvement and adjustment to his striking, like he had been practicing his entire life and hiding it from us until that fight.
Francis lat 3 fights are the reason he is special. He blitzed Rosenstuik like a madman stuck on a propeller, then he stalked Stipe with precision striking and defended his championship with wrestling.
Francis becoming a top class wrestler against Gane, that was such a great strategy and shocking considering the power in his hands.
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I didn’t see any top class wrestling from Francis. I saw good takedowns and then laying on top of someone. And this is coming from a Francis fan.
@@raul350raptor ya seriously I can pick up a guy I have 20 lbs over and hold him down, not hard lmao, Francis didn’t even try to do anything on the ground and risk position
@@raul350raptor I mean that’s what wrestling is lol, sure there’s more to grappling but that’s wrestling for you
0:16….The „Bonk“ sound 😂😂😂
I love this channel so much
Roundtree becoming a world class Thai boxer
The last time I was this early. Jorge wasn’t on usmans highlight reel.
Tony Ferguson is the type of guy to switch styles from hitting his opponents to getting hit by them.
Ronda went from sore winner to sore loser. Who could have seen that coming ?
This is the content i subscribed for!!!
Dang Marty vs Judas is hilarious 🤣🤣
Shoutout the goat Luke Taylor
The pokemon reference during the kamaru/street judas segmant was class 😂
11:10 respectfully this one is kind of silly IMO. They are heavyweights. And Francis jumped up in competition. Not being able to spark top contenders inside 60 seconds isn’t the same as being patient. I don’t think that was a product of a stylistic change rather a consequence of better fighters. Plus as I mentioned heavyweights need fewer punches. By that same logic Stipe went through the same journey knocking out werdum, overeem, and junior back to back before beating Francis with none seeing 3 minutes of fighting for a combined time of less than a round. He didn’t get more patient . Francis was a better challenge and he wasn’t able to land quite as cleanly
Werdum was underrated. He was that jiu jitsu guy who didn’t have striking, to beating the dog shit out of Cain on the feet before strangling him. Crazy that stipe shut that shit down right after that.
Werdum throwing a boomerang at Colby is hilarious
Shuffle Shuffle Right Hand - H-Bomb 🤣🤣🤣
No one was ready Diego Sanchez to think of the shadow and give em the Tyson.
I've always loved the Belcher/Palhares fight
To be fair hunt was basically dominating the fight until werdum landed the knee
And NO ONE is muffed that Mike Perry shed the gloves lol
Someone help me out… wtf was the clip at 4:37???
Yall did Usman dirty with that close up hahaha you know it's true
You forgot about Hollywood Henderson, Dan's real original nickname from Pride FC.
*Grapplers who eventually learned to strike 😐
When I first hear the name Verdum I think of a guy crab walking towards a standing opponent because Fabrizio didn't want to be in an MMA match. He evolved over the years, but the crab walk embarrassment will never be forgotten
Incredibly humble Cejudo 😂
1:00 - I understand it’s a very short, essentially insignificant clip… but watching Topuria slip that noodle and throw that hellacious uppercut is pretty scary. Dude is a fucking compact destroyer.
Honorable mention for Chris Leben. After he got lit up by Anderson Silva he totally changed his style.
I wanna see a list of the top ten flashiest fighting styles in the big leagues
Yair Rodriguez, Stephen Thompson, Israel Adesamya, Cory Sandhagen, Edson Barboza,
@@twes003 Tony Ferguson
@@Yaderix Micheal pereira, literally capoeira lol
@@twes003 Israel?
Idk if flashy is the right word for him
Fast? Yes, flashy... Ehhh, it's like saying Mayweather is flashy
Yair Rodriguez, Zabit Magomedsharipov, Michel Pereira, Corey Sandhagen, Tony Ferguson, Jiri Prochazka, Sean O'Malley, Stephen Thompson, Edson Barboza, Anderson Silva
Before I start this video, Khalil Roundtree's muay thai vs Erik Anders better be on here
Or Hector Lombard being a BJJ and Judo black belt doing bk 'oh u a Boxer now?'
"Uh...yeah" 😂😂
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Dan Henderson basically change up his style because of his serious back and spine issues? I mean if you think about his like latter half this career he basically never wrestled which is weird coming from somebody who has and insanely impressive set of wrestling credentials. From what I have gathered that's basically why he shuffles and if it's hunched all the time but is able to continue to throw the right because it's one of the few things that doesn't bother him or cause him pain but that's why it's all hunched over all the time like I'm pretty sure he's at spin multiple surgeries to correct?
xD "Nick Diaz Ko Power" good one
This jiu jitsu expert was mark laimon
loveley subject of a video, 19/10
Bit more recent but mackachev showing he could strike with the best of them in the Olivera fight was something
I knew Makhachev had underrated striking but even I was surprised at how good he look on the feet in that fight. He used Oliveira's pressure and recklessness against him by cracking him with counters. He also neutralized Oliveira's deadly clinch game as well. And the fact Makhachev was able to stand toe-to-toe with Alexander Volkanovski who is one of the best strikers in the UFC, is highly impressive.
Oliveria wasn't on form regarding his striking though, he was headhunting without any set-up. He does have a reckless style, but if you look at how he was actually fighting in the Makachev title fight he's very different to how he performed in his recent matches. He's so focused on the headhunt that he ignores everything else, runs onto a counter, and obviously the rest is history.
I honestly think that he lost the mental game, look at the surrounding buildup to the fight. Charles' is basically treated as the underdog, as if he's already lost, after being stripped of his title, meanwhile the fight is booked in Dubai, not Brazil as one might expect, and the UFC is virtually already promoting Islam as champion to get that juicy Khabib fanbase. Charles' in the interviews is adamant he's going to KO Islam, and just like Aldo Vs McGregor charges in chin first onto a hard counter. Mental health is a huge part of any fight, and Charles seemed to be falling apart in the buildup to this.
Islam has very basic striking, but what he does have is great accuracy (something Volk talked about too), and he uses this to land solid counters against fighters even if they are a technically better fighter than he is. Combined with his counter takedown threat, it makes the prospect of trying to push through his reach rather dangerous (the takedown on Volk in the fourth round was a counter as Volk blitzed in to move past Islam's reach). It's less his striking alone, he'd get eaten alive in a pure striking matchup even with a smaller guy like Volk, it's more that combined with his other skills it's good enough to deal with most people. Still needs work though.
It's a more advanced version of Khabib's far more basic striking. If someone is so worried about the takedown, they are less likely to be watching your hands, letting you land shots you might not otherwise be able to.
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I think the Charles fight was very much to do with Charles' mental state as much as it was the striking matchup itself. Charles was headhunting, he wasn't setting anything up, and he was clearly not using whatever gameplan his camp had come up with to deal with Islam. He normally has a reckless style, but he looked very different from when he fought objectively better striker's. It's like Aldo Vs McGregor, if you lose the mental game, and focus too much on trying to get a quick KO to prove yourself, it's very easy to get caught by a counter, especially if the opponent is an accurate counterstriker, which Islam is.
I would point out that Islam is a counter striker that is four inches taller than Volk (Volk has one inch longer arm's but he's still at a significant effective reach disadvantage), if he's not landing there, that's a real issue, especially for a counter striker. Islam found it very easy to land body kicks precisely because of that difference in length, and Volk basically has to run through counters to get to his preferred range, were he the same height as Islam I think the standup would have looked very different. The size advantage is also notable regarding power, but Volk is a freak and somehow not only took no real damage but also managed to outmuscle Islam at various points. But still Islam is a good 8-10 kilos heavier on fight night most likely, so that's a big difference in power.
What Islam has is great accuracy (Volk himself talked about how good his eye is after the fight), his actual striking, technically speaking, is very basic. But he sits down on counters and can accurately tag guys time and time again, which is very effective when combined with his grappling skillset. He's still got a long way to go though, the fact that Alex could get anywhere near him and continually do damage despite that is both a sign that Volkanovski is an MMA god, but also that Islam has holes in his gameplan right now.
I think Islam is a solid fighter with great potential, but I think his striking game gets overhyped quite a bit. I'd like to see if he could go to Welterweight (arguably his natural division) and compete with a guy like Usman who's closer in size but also very well rounded (they are the same height and the build isn't that different).
Not to mention his next fight against Volk with those nasty counters
Always enjoy your content mma on point cheers
I thought this video was gonna take the Bj Penn kangourou style route.
2:54 is that Nicholas Cage on the front row behind Wanderlei?
Do Top 10 MMA On Point Videos where they ran out of ideas next
Bj Penns Weird Fighting Stance & Fighting Plan When He Fought Frankie Edgar For The 3rd Time
🤨🧐🤔🫣🤷🏻
1920s dukes up?
Weirdest thing we've ever seen.
One of a short list of channels I watch every video
11:16 I never saw a human fist do that to a human face.
Bj Penn fighting like a kangaroo against Frankie Edgar the 3rd time
Did my man Maurice Smith dirty
Awesome content as always. Worth every $150 millions Spotify deal.
Masvidal who koed Till at London can beat every contender including Usman and Covington. But fame got him I guess. While Masvidal was fighting for real on the street for TH-cam videos, these other fighters are on achools, practicing collegiate wrestling. They are different beast. This is why i will always love him.
bro said masvidal that beat till would beat usman and colby lmao
Little Johny smoking that good herb
@@Acooky. he will ko them under 2 round.
@@johnylalrina1451 is that why he lost to both of them horrifically?
@@Acooky. fame got him.
This thumbnail does Masvidal soo dirty 😭😭😭 hE wAsNt rEaDy😭😭😭😭😭😅😅😅😅
you guys should make a top 10 cowards in mma. top 3 would have to be:
1- gsp
2- khabib
3-aljo
GSP? The guy who rematched everyone who beat him and moved up a weightclass after multiple years off? Sure mate
did TH-cam take some of your videos down? i cant find some of them
Cejudo won an Olympic gold medal ? First time I've heard about it. Good for him
5 seconds into the video and I love it already. I see Alex Pereira, I watch.
Charmander and he team ain't gonna be ready for Conrad and Team Touchbutt In The Park!!!! #teamtouchbuttinthepark
haven’t watched it yet but francis wrestling tf out of gane was the first thing that came to mind lol
I'm pretty sure Hendo's new power was... um.. enhanced in some way, seeing as how it evaporated with USDA testing lmao still good shit tho
Hendo definitely had a good run before they cracked down on all the hgh. Him and vitor got to turn back the clock.
And it was awesome.
Keeping Topuria away from Paddy Pimblett is just good bidness
Great content. Thanks
There's a movie called "stone" with the perfect clip you should have used for "I wasn't ready"
GSP becoming a wrestler from a karate fighter.
I would have thought gsp going from karate to wrestling would make the list
Who the hell is that at 6:41? They talking about Diaz and clip this guy?
8:36 This is actually a chest compression. Instead of directly cutting off blood flow to the brain, you put so much pressure on your opponents chest their lungs can't expand enough to get oxygen. Shit fucking sucks.
Calls Ubereem Overeem hahahaha. Whatta noob, that was clearly Overeem's big brother Ubereem.
All I remember about Johnny Hendrix is how badly he got robbed in the GSP fight.
What about GSP learning how to wrestle
If Volk ends up leaving 145 forever by the end of the year, Ilia is my dark horse to become champion.
Honorable mention Derrick Lewis “just stand up”
I will always remember how haunting Stipe's words of wanting to be the first to finish Ngannou were. We miss you, Stiopic. 🥺😢😭
You say that like Francis killed the guy😂
If Miocic had any submission skills he may have been able to do it in the first fight. But Miocic has no submissions whatsoever on his record, its a very overlooked weakness in his game IMO.
@@ligma5000honestly it felt like he did shit was brutal
Question. Where's caposas corner?
That dr Evil edit was perfect!😂
Can we get more MMA Legends videos like the GSP one ❤
Topuria team 🔥🔥
4:36 what the fuck kinda movie is that