I've been subscribed to this channel for years now. How it's not over 1 million subscribers yet is beyond me. The content and editing are top notch; keep it going boys!
Frank Mir was the guy who got me into the UFC. It was incredibly sad to see where his career went after his accident. Nothing but props for him continuing, but it leaves one wondering.
I saw a highlight of Mir tapping some dude with a Kimora & I'd never seen a successful one up to that point...I used to get annoyed when a fight went to the ground until then! I was like 'ok I get it now'
@@dlow42should watch sakurabas fights if you haven't. Was pretty much his whole game plan. Put his head through the ropes(in a time when MMA fights were fought in boxing rings) when they got his back so they couldn't get the choke...then kimura the fuck out of them. Also...that's big Nog haha, not some dude
This is without a doubt the best MMA channel on TH-cam. I've been watching MMA for 20 years you guys really nail the history perfectly and your knowledge on the sport is amazing
At that time period(2018) DC would have wrestlefuxked brock into oblivion. Dc was almost out of his prime but still really good and brock fought last at 2016 in fight which was ruled a no contest
@@jhevier naw. dc would have not wrestled brock like he did stipe after that 1st fight. brock would have beat dc in. wrestling. dc only path would have been striking
Sylvia was ranked properly and I'm glad he wasn't put down at the bottom, he wasn't the worst champ by any stretch, he just rose up at a time when competition was light
I agree. I also don't think he "lost badly" to Big Nog like the video said. He was actually winning until Big Nog did what he always does and caught him with a submission after being knocked down.
@@ronjeremy9648ou seriously just claim that Tim Sylvia fought harder competition than GSP and Cain Velasquez. That’s insanely stupid. I’m not surprised someone with Ron Jeremy in their username has a incredibly stupid opinion on something lol
You're right. Lol for some reason I'd overlooked it myself for years. I was thinking randleman had 0 defenses, and Rizzo only had the 2 unsuccessful bids at cotoures title. I noticed just the other day that Kevin did indeed defend against Rizzo and I was like "what the heck??" 😂 Blame it on the butterfly effect, I reckon
@@JorgeTheNatural you're right. Carlos Newton was the youngest champion before Jon Jones won his belt. Their only job is to know MMA and they made multiple mistakes.
My favourite UFC heavyweight champion would have to be my all time favourite fighter Cain Velasquez. Just looking back, JDS fought so many top level fighters in a row when he was in his prime.
Yeah, and I think Cain would honestly clean out the division today, apart from Gane maybe who Caine isn't touching on the feet, but the division today is way weaker than when fighters like Cain, JDS, and Werdum were in their prime. Ngannou basically walked through it just by being bigger and stronger, pretty much all his opponent's just stood in front of him and traded punches for some reason apart from Lewis, Stipe in the first fight, and Gane. I think my favourite is probably Cro-Cop, because he's a high-kicking heavyweight, if we talk about non-UFC fights Fedor vs Randleman is amazing.
@@AveSicarius Oh for sure, I was just saying for the UFC. Cro-Cop was arguably the most dangerous striker the heavyweight division had ever seen and how Fedor survived the impact of the slam Randleman landed was incredible.
@@AveSicarius the heavyweight division now is by far better than in the past lol. Someone like aspinal is already more well rounded than every past champion apart from velasquez lol
Frank Mir was my favorite fighter for a long time when I got back into MMA in the early 2000s. I really would love to know how things would have panned out without the motorcycle accident.
So we're not counting Bas and Barnett accomplishment outside the UFC heavyweight championship picture but we're counting Jones and Mir's? This list is all over the place
@@carphucker2973 Recently its been steroid boy bones gettin all the goat talk and topping lists so its just refreshing to see stipe gettin his rightful position. ❤️
I agree with most of this list but it’s absolutely psychotic to have DC at 2 with one defense over Derrick Lewis, it goes against everything you said for every other fighter on this list
DC at #3 and Cain at #2 would've been perfect. I especially dislike the fact that DC essentially cherry-picked Derrick Lewis as his first title defense, too.
@@imcnblu exactly, half the people on this list had better title defenses. Stipe is a huge win but DC should be behind Ngannou, Cain, and maybe Randy too imo
@@juanquntos7123 I thought that for a little bit, but after looking at both of them closer, I think Stipe has the better resume. Even though Fedor has that long undefeated streak, he wasn't consistently fighting the best HWs in the world like Stipe was. I also feel like Stipe has beaten the better names.
I love Fedor, but this really isn’t true. Stipe has fought and beat tougher opponents. Fedor beat some big names in the mid-00s, but most of those guys wouldn’t survive against the current UFC roster. The vast majority of his record is padded with nobodies. I’m sure Fedor has his reasons for not fighting in the UFC, but fighting at Strikeforce, M-1 and Bellator just means he didn’t routinely have top competition for a long portion of his career.
I know that the physiology of heavyweights is very different from every other weight class, but the 2 factors that seem to guarantee a short title run are durability and stamina. There are several who I thought could have made it to a championship fight eventually, but I think they banked too hard on their durability and took dangerous risks for quick finishes because the gas tank would eventually come into question. One such favorite was Roy big country Nelson. I really thought he would have been a great addition to a list like this. Wishful thinking though.
Nah, he's not going to touch Jon unfortunately. DC beat Stipe, and we all know how Jon matches up into Cormier. Jon is a superior grappler, is about the same size, and is better on the feet. I don't think Stipe beats Gane honestly, Gane is way better at striking and actually has some submission threat. Stipe's kind of done honestly, I don't see him taking the belt back, and if Francis ever comes back, or when Gane learns to wrestle, he's basically just going to be a gatekeeper. Heavyweight is just a really weak division right now, which is why Francis cleaned it out by just being big and strong, and why Stipe was so successful despite being average at best. If Gane learns how to wrestle, he's going to dominate it for years. At the moment Jon is going to beat any Heavyweight they throw at him, I'm fairly sure Jones would smash Ngannou as well.
@@AveSicarius the division is weak compared to the past, thats very true. I am excited for tom aspinall to get back to full fitness and try and make a stamp on the division but unfortunatly bones will probs b long gone by the time toms in top 3/5. I would love nothing more than a stacked h/weight division of warriors that could challenge jones but if all the rumours are ryt, bones may be gone after fighting stipe! We need more big ass savages to keep all us savages happy!!😂🤣❤️
Junior dos Santos title run was the best imo. He almost knocked out everybody on his way to the title fight and did it in dominant fashion including knocking out Werdum in his debut. Then he knocked out Cain Velasquez in a couple of seconds. After that he still got some good wins like Lewis, Tai Tuvasa, Mark Hunt, Stipe
@@squadabingo9113 me too at worst it’s draw (that was the dight stioe realized he has the ability to become a champ! Dos santos became a glass chin not too far later
If Stipe beats Jones (which _IS_ a real possibility) then he is permanently placed as the UFC Heavyweight GOAT. No matter what happens after that, he owns it. It's him. He's _THE_ UFC Heavyweight GOAT.
@@michaeltabor2077 dana says alot of things, and has no reason not to tout jones as the goat, because hes the only candidate in the promotion lining danas pockets, the others have all left the promotion and therefore theres no reason to favor a silva/gsp/mighty mouse/cejudo etc over his cash cow
Can you at least give Mark Hunt some credit for his fight against Werdum. He was called up on 2 weeks notice, had to cut near 20kgs, was going through a bunch personal issues and still knocked down Werdum 3 times before said ko
Brilliantly made list IMO. It’s clear cut, and allows for Jones to move up or down this list, could possibly include Gane in the future, or will solidify Stipe as the best for a long long time!
@@geraldgeraldson7640 Cyril may have lost but he’s still really good at fighting, just cuz he got submitted in round 1 doesn’t mean we should ignore his skill sets. He’s still a big problem at heavyweight. As for the dark age champions, it’s kinda hard to rank them all exactly bc there’s a lot of “win the belt, lose the belt” So you’re right, in some lists Sylvia should be at the bottom, but in others he might not be based on how they see it.
i really feel bad for Ngannou, he always wanted to fight and just wanted what he was worth. I dont understand Dana's hatred of him, he couldve been the perfect champ especially since he garnered takedown defense and grappling. Edit: how and why are so many of you believing Dana considering 50% of what he says is BS?
Man got offered the largest HW contract in UFC history (more than what Jon made on his championship fight) and he still left. Its not about the money anymore, he wants the eazy fights in boxing or the other promotions not the actual challenges he will face in the UFC.
@@kross4998 do you really think that transitioning sports to fight Tyson Fury, possibly the most skilled boxer of all time, is chasing an easy fight? 😂
@@etlonjonh Bro, there are DW fanboys all over this sport. It is a bit sickening. I still cannot believe that there is a Commissioner/suit more popular than the athletes themselves. I really hope that this changes one day...
This might be the most off base i've ever seen you guys have an opinion. You used no title defenses multiple times as examples to why guys were low on the list and then put jones in the top ten who has no title defenses. Jones should be somewhere near the bottom. He beat somebody who wasn't a current champion and has no defenses yet. What he's done at 205 means nothing .
10:05 it’s hard to reconcile zero defenses. Let alone a promotion from an interim given your own caveat to start. He will prove he belongs far up this list if not sitting atop it. But his placement here makes absolutely zero sense given the insights for other fighters in this list.
Ranking HW like this really might be the hardest division, because you have guys like DC and Couture, who had some of their best work at 205 but were also successful at HW, do you rank them just as HW, or by their entire body of work? Then you have a significant amount of time where PRIDE had a better HW division than UFC, that matters when you're comparing UFC HW of that era to other eras, and on top of that, steroids, which is an issue in the entire sport, but let's be real, it's a more meaningful issue at HW than at any other division.
Too many of Couture’s fights were unearned title fights. He continually didn’t have to fight and win his way of the ladder to fight for the title. A lot of fighters careers would be different if they got the shots Randy always seemed to get.
I don't get why people rate dc so high on these lists, like bro had 2 championship fights. one he poked stipe in the eye and then punched him and knocked him out, and then fought Derrick Lewis and lost his next two to stipe. How is that number 2??
If you factor the Strikeforce wins it's not so bad. But yeah crazy people rank him so highly off just UFC heavyweight fights. Note the UFC merged with strike force you'd think we'd factor in all the accomplishments there. Same with Pride.
@@kingkyan4112 I agree with you, just giving some clarity that DC is an all time great at heavyweight. I still rank mma over all Fedor over Stipe. But if it's just UFC I'd put Stipe #1 Coture at #2 with Sylvia at #3 Arlovski is definitely #4 with #5 as Mir. I'd rate Velazquez at#6 above JDS and DC. Sure DC beat Stipe but its was by cheating, literally made him need eye surgery do it's a huge asterisk.
Yeah DC is ranked way to high its actually disrespectful to guys like JDS & Werdum who have far better resumes without cheating & put more work at HW, Cain is above DC for damn sure
Daniel Cormier above Cain Valasquez is an outrage. I get that Daniel Cormier gets bonus points for his what if at light heavyweight and achieving double champ status, but yikes. Cain came up at a time when the heavyweight division was stacked killers and made them look like they were no where near his league. He got screwed over not only by injuries but also some fights knocking out crazy contenders making him fight Bigfoot and JDS twice over 4 fights. His run up and everything included during such a deep division... I could see them being switched around. Daniel should have 3rd and Cain 2nd.
The best a bit about this video was at the end when you mentioned the guy the did the soundtrack. 😂😂. I didn't even know there was a soundtrack. I was to busy listening to you about the list. You said please follow them. I was like what for 😂😂. I didn't even know there was music playing. I was in bits laughing 😂😂
Great show, but slight mistake was made, kevin Randleman, DID have a successful title defense, it was against Pedro rizzo at ufc 26, he won a clear ud.
When you beat someone you get partial credit for all those he previously beat. However I think you are right. Until he defends the belt and proves it wasn’t a fluke…. Probably shouldn’t be on here.
He didn't really show much in the weekend it was more Gane freezing up and making a massive mistake. Any number of heavyweights would have jumped all over that
Jon already has 13 title defenses against the best of the best. Which is more than any other fighter in all weight classes. Him passing 4 title defenses in heavyweight doesn't sound very unlikely.
Absolutely not, DC is ranked way too high. His win against Stipe was controversial. He was warned several times about eye pokes. His hook that knocked Stipe out was immediately after he poked Stipe in the eye, on the same side. He did the same thing in the two rematches. Stipe had a partial detached retina from it. Derrick Lewis had like 3 months between fights when he fought DC and he had a bad back, which was why he didn't really engage with Ngannou in that fight.
Great list, but the commentary given on DC’s reign I don’t think justifies his No. 2 spot. An argument could be made for such high status but it was not present here. Otherwise, spot on list 👏
Jones being so highly ranked after a single win at heavyweight is insane to me. The guy he beat is a striker with some of the worst takedown defence we have seen in that division.
But Ngannou is way ahead of him, yet Ngannou lost to Miocic, he did then beat him - but only when Miocic was 40 years old. He then went 5 rounds to a decision with the same guy that JJ put away in 2 mins. So I don't see why JJ is lower than Ngannou.
The fact that this list has Josh Barnett as the worst because of steroids but on this channel 2 days ago they posted a video of Jon Jones sayin he is the goat is wild shit NGL.
I think Jon is just looking to pass Stipes Heavyweight title defense record and call it a day. After that, he would pretty much be the GOAT of two divisions and his overall GOAT claim would be undeniable at that point.
It's pretty crazy to wrap your head around now, but there was a time where a lot of people thought he was legitimately the best heavyweight of all time, and was going to remain champ for the foreseeable future.
@@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 I always used to see Tim Sylvia fight and think he's not shit but then I look at his record and it's pretty solid. Something about him however, always made me feel like he moved too clunky even for a heavyweight
@@lune6oslit716 back then really big guys were either kickboxers, or they were wrestlers. That's it. He was pretty much the only one who had submission skills and pretty decent boxing, so that made him pretty much impossible for all of the mid-tier guys he fought on his way up.
@@lune6oslit716 yep, exactly what I mean, there were some other guys with multiple disciplines back then, but not a whole lot, and pretty much none with his size and power. And we should give the guy a little credit where it's due, he did have a high level of skill, just not compared to how the sport has advanced since then. Most giant monsters like him were just big goons that are awkward and gas out in 3 minutes.
Imagine for a moment if Cain had taken advantage of the TRT era, and came back Super-Cain? Imagine Cain's skillset with the body of TRTitor. Scary shit.
Cain super underrated on this list and in fans' memories. For some reason they all worship at the altar of cheating PED-user Jones who is scared out of his mind to fight a prime Ngannou.
Gotta love Tommy-the-cartoon-toehold and his unbiased breakdowns. As a numbers man myself, I love how analytical he gets. Tommy placing his boy JBJ that low on the list lets you know he's willing to swallow his biases and get to the hard truths. Jones fanboy as he may be, Tommy is realistic, and i respect it!
Jones was always terrified of facing a true champ like a prime Ngannou. Waited for him to leave UFC altogether before he even considered pretending to be a legit Heavyweight champ.
So you’re ranking guys lower due to “strength of schedule” but you’re automatically putting Jones at #9 because he beat a guy with no ground game, and saying he’ll be the best if he beats Stipe who is now in his 40’s. Totally makes sense.
Jon Jones' performance at UFC 285 wasn't impressive. I expected him to ragdoll Gane, to bloody his face, and to wrestle him like Ngannou couldn't. Any win of Jones that didn't go to a decision is more impressive, even the No Contest against DC!
As someone from another dimension I can confidently say if we don't get Francis v Jon we're in one of the worst timelines. We already missed out on Tony v Khabib and Jones v Lesnar. How many epic fights can our species fail to deliver on for the combat gods? Come on humanity! 😭
We are in the right timeline. Jones is a PED-using cheating coward who intentionally ducked Ngannou before he even dreamed of going Heavyweight. He will now pretend to be some legendary Heavyweight champ by beating a past-his-prime Stipe.
If we are talking resumes at HW then Miocic is the best. If I'm talking p4p best fighters to fight in that weight class then I'm going Jones, Cormier, and Miocic. They would most likely beat all the other guys on that list.
Batista was the best heavy weight champion
I hope this becomes the top comment 😂
😂😂😂😂 remember the skinny dude who went backstage and did his entrance that one time & the security chased him
Fuck yes bro
Wrong sport, but agreed 💀
This made me laugh out loud
Tony Ferguson is 2-0 against heavyweights. (Werdum and Cormier). He deserves and honorable mention!
Tony's just that type of guy...😂
No way when did that happen
@@aztecwrrior1997when you weren't looking
Hold on I’m talkin brother
@@aztecwrrior1997 he is a ninja turtle
I've been subscribed to this channel for years now. How it's not over 1 million subscribers yet is beyond me. The content and editing are top notch; keep it going boys!
Let’s meet up and throw down then
@@lewisjaygomes1617 lol
you dont always get what u deserve
@@jhevier Ain't that the truth!
Well said
Frank Mir was the guy who got me into the UFC. It was incredibly sad to see where his career went after his accident. Nothing but props for him continuing, but it leaves one wondering.
I saw a highlight of Mir tapping some dude with a Kimora & I'd never seen a successful one up to that point...I used to get annoyed when a fight went to the ground until then! I was like 'ok I get it now'
Mir was a savage.
@@dlow42should watch sakurabas fights if you haven't. Was pretty much his whole game plan.
Put his head through the ropes(in a time when MMA fights were fought in boxing rings) when they got his back so they couldn't get the choke...then kimura the fuck out of them.
Also...that's big Nog haha, not some dude
This is without a doubt the best MMA channel on TH-cam. I've been watching MMA for 20 years you guys really nail the history perfectly and your knowledge on the sport is amazing
The only guy Stipe never fought in his era was Cain which is a match I’d always wanted to see
Stipe hit his prime after Cain’s prime was over
@@hearwho8438 exactly bro the fight would have favoured Stipe due to age
@@grappling.enthusiast prime vs prime would've probably been the most high level heavyweight fight other than DC vs Stipe
@@hearwho8438 fax
@@hearwho8438 DC vs Stipe had too much eye poking
DC vs Brock would have actually been really fun.
Yup
I don't think DC wins just due to how ridiculously physical Brock was combined with decent wrestling, but it surely would have been a sight haha.
At that time period(2018) DC would have wrestlefuxked brock into oblivion. Dc was almost out of his prime but still really good and brock fought last at 2016 in fight which was ruled a no contest
How DC would of ko Brock
@@jhevier naw. dc would have not wrestled brock like he did stipe after that 1st fight. brock would have beat dc in. wrestling. dc only path would have been striking
Sylvia was ranked properly and I'm glad he wasn't put down at the bottom, he wasn't the worst champ by any stretch, he just rose up at a time when competition was light
I agree. I also don't think he "lost badly" to Big Nog like the video said. He was actually winning until Big Nog did what he always does and caught him with a submission after being knocked down.
Nah Sylvia was a bum
@@trentsides6058 I love the idea of calling a UFC champion a bum.
He fought harder competition than GSP or Cain ever did but they're at the top of their lists
@@ronjeremy9648ou seriously just claim that Tim Sylvia fought harder competition than GSP and Cain Velasquez. That’s insanely stupid.
I’m not surprised someone with Ron Jeremy in their username has a incredibly stupid opinion on something lol
6:31
Kevin Randleman actually had a official successful defense against Pedro Rizzo
You're right. Lol for some reason I'd overlooked it myself for years. I was thinking randleman had 0 defenses, and Rizzo only had the 2 unsuccessful bids at cotoures title. I noticed just the other day that Kevin did indeed defend against Rizzo and I was like "what the heck??" 😂
Blame it on the butterfly effect, I reckon
@@waltercallihan but you wouldn't know since this channel doesn't do the research
@@JorgeTheNatural you're right. Carlos Newton was the youngest champion before Jon Jones won his belt. Their only job is to know MMA and they made multiple mistakes.
@@codychapman7342 alot of mistakes
Called Frankie Edgar a former featherweight champion and also that Robert Whittaker was Welterweight Champion
My favourite UFC heavyweight champion would have to be my all time favourite fighter Cain Velasquez. Just looking back, JDS fought so many top level fighters in a row when he was in his prime.
Yeah, and I think Cain would honestly clean out the division today, apart from Gane maybe who Caine isn't touching on the feet, but the division today is way weaker than when fighters like Cain, JDS, and Werdum were in their prime. Ngannou basically walked through it just by being bigger and stronger, pretty much all his opponent's just stood in front of him and traded punches for some reason apart from Lewis, Stipe in the first fight, and Gane.
I think my favourite is probably Cro-Cop, because he's a high-kicking heavyweight, if we talk about non-UFC fights Fedor vs Randleman is amazing.
@I, CATO SICARIUS So JBJ's wrestling completely dominated Ganes, but Cain's wouldn't?
@@AveSicarius the heavyweight division back then wasn't better than it is now 😂😂
@@AveSicarius Oh for sure, I was just saying for the UFC. Cro-Cop was arguably the most dangerous striker the heavyweight division had ever seen and how Fedor survived the impact of the slam Randleman landed was incredible.
@@AveSicarius the heavyweight division now is by far better than in the past lol. Someone like aspinal is already more well rounded than every past champion apart from velasquez lol
Frank Mir was my favorite fighter for a long time when I got back into MMA in the early 2000s. I really would love to know how things would have panned out without the motorcycle accident.
So we're not counting Bas and Barnett accomplishment outside the UFC heavyweight championship picture but we're counting Jones and Mir's? This list is all over the place
So many channels seem to unintentionally perpetuate the idea that UFC was always top dog, or the only top quality promotion, sad to see.
It's ranking UFC champions, in UFC fights. so even if big nog or fedor could be the goat of heavyweight, it doesn't apply to the list.
This is UFC jfc
Most of Bas' opponents were tomato cans.
@@RIVALContentJammerz don’t diss my boy like that Lol he’s fighting some solid china men.
Stipe has earned the top spot
Stipe is not even top 3, hes decent but not good.
@@kr1me2000 Stipe is without question they beat UFC heavyweight champion.
Absolutely, I think most title defenses makes it a slam dunk right there. Add in the quality of opposition and it's a no brainer.
Not for long
@@tylerrobbins8311 nah Cain in his prime would kill him, also Lesnar would beat him.
Arlovski is legendary. 24 years in the game.
For a heavyweight no less. What an incredible accomplishment in of itself.
This new age of UFC fans don't even know who Randy Couture is, nice to see him get the recognition he deserves. Solid list.
Yup
The Natural is the legend. Most technical and humble.
JDS, Brock, Cain, Carwin that era of heavyweights was so fun.
FUCK YES Finally Stipe gets recognized. Clevelander here and love that guy
Well said! Stipe deserves a helluva lot more recognition. ❤️
???? He’s constantly called the heavyweight GOAT all the damn time tf ya mean?
@@carphucker2973 Recently its been steroid boy bones gettin all the goat talk and topping lists so its just refreshing to see stipe gettin his rightful position. ❤️
@@GDAWG. Well, Jones probably is the GOAT, Stipe is the GOAT of HW
He will be dropped to a spot lower once Jones gets his hands on him.
I agree with most of this list but it’s absolutely psychotic to have DC at 2 with one defense over Derrick Lewis, it goes against everything you said for every other fighter on this list
DC at #3 and Cain at #2 would've been perfect.
I especially dislike the fact that DC essentially cherry-picked Derrick Lewis as his first title defense, too.
@@imcnblu exactly, half the people on this list had better title defenses. Stipe is a huge win but DC should be behind Ngannou, Cain, and maybe Randy too imo
DC was undefeated at HW except for the GOAT of the division in Stipe. And still lost in a close fights
They put Francis at top5 which is just... yeah.. insanity! This was the worst list the have done so far!
@@joeljungell8250 Francis>DC in heavyweight tbh
Randy Couture is why i love the UFC and MMA, I the natural was the first guy i was truly a fan of.
Love randy cotoure. Still one of the most inspirational fighters ever
Kevin Randleman had a successful title defense versus Pedro Rizzo at UFC 26.
Thank you! Was just about to say that myself!
Fedor wasn't in the UFC but he was definitely one of the top 3 heavyweight MMA fighters of all time
He's #1 and it's not even close
#1 by a distance
Different era & behind the times beating a stioe jones sc or Francis woukd if been really hard
@@juanquntos7123 I thought that for a little bit, but after looking at both of them closer, I think Stipe has the better resume. Even though Fedor has that long undefeated streak, he wasn't consistently fighting the best HWs in the world like Stipe was. I also feel like Stipe has beaten the better names.
I love Fedor, but this really isn’t true. Stipe has fought and beat tougher opponents. Fedor beat some big names in the mid-00s, but most of those guys wouldn’t survive against the current UFC roster. The vast majority of his record is padded with nobodies. I’m sure Fedor has his reasons for not fighting in the UFC, but fighting at Strikeforce, M-1 and Bellator just means he didn’t routinely have top competition for a long portion of his career.
Great video! I would love to see the LHW rankings from worst to best.
1- Jones
2- Cormier
3- Tito Ortiz
4- Chuck Liddell
5- Randy Couture
I think it would be something like that
I know that the physiology of heavyweights is very different from every other weight class, but the 2 factors that seem to guarantee a short title run are durability and stamina. There are several who I thought could have made it to a championship fight eventually, but I think they banked too hard on their durability and took dangerous risks for quick finishes because the gas tank would eventually come into question. One such favorite was Roy big country Nelson. I really thought he would have been a great addition to a list like this. Wishful thinking though.
First one that came to mind was Roy, second was Mark Hunt. 🤙🏾
I think Roy would have been even scarier at 205
man, "no motorcycle Mir" has to be one of my biggest mma "what-if's".....had the chance to meet him a few years back, super chill guy
stipe has 4 title defenses and won the title 2 different times, thats a lotta big dudes he beat
Brocks ability to create speed to take people down at that weight was amazing
Stipe is the well deserved winner of this list. After he flattens jon jones he will be cemented in history! ❤
But will also make it seem like Francis could have been….. it will be better for the UFC if Jones walks through him.
Hold your horse there, hater 🤔🤣
Nah, he's not going to touch Jon unfortunately. DC beat Stipe, and we all know how Jon matches up into Cormier. Jon is a superior grappler, is about the same size, and is better on the feet. I don't think Stipe beats Gane honestly, Gane is way better at striking and actually has some submission threat.
Stipe's kind of done honestly, I don't see him taking the belt back, and if Francis ever comes back, or when Gane learns to wrestle, he's basically just going to be a gatekeeper.
Heavyweight is just a really weak division right now, which is why Francis cleaned it out by just being big and strong, and why Stipe was so successful despite being average at best. If Gane learns how to wrestle, he's going to dominate it for years. At the moment Jon is going to beat any Heavyweight they throw at him, I'm fairly sure Jones would smash Ngannou as well.
@@AveSicarius the division is weak compared to the past, thats very true. I am excited for tom aspinall to get back to full fitness and try and make a stamp on the division but unfortunatly bones will probs b long gone by the time toms in top 3/5. I would love nothing more than a stacked h/weight division of warriors that could challenge jones but if all the rumours are ryt, bones may be gone after fighting stipe! We need more big ass savages to keep all us savages happy!!😂🤣❤️
@@skylanh4319 F the ufc. Stipe if going through jon
Junior dos Santos title run was the best imo. He almost knocked out everybody on his way to the title fight and did it in dominant fashion including knocking out Werdum in his debut. Then he knocked out Cain Velasquez in a couple of seconds. After that he still got some good wins like Lewis, Tai Tuvasa, Mark Hunt, Stipe
I thought Stipe beat JDS bro... Im pretty sure he did
@@squadabingo9113 me too at worst it’s draw (that was the dight stioe realized he has the ability to become a champ! Dos santos became a glass chin not too far later
If Stipe beats Jones (which _IS_ a real possibility) then he is permanently placed as the UFC Heavyweight GOAT. No matter what happens after that, he owns it. It's him. He's _THE_ UFC Heavyweight GOAT.
Francis 2
If stipe beats jones he enters the pound for pound goat convo since Dana has already said jones is the goat
@@michaeltabor2077 dana says alot of things, and has no reason not to tout jones as the goat, because hes the only candidate in the promotion lining danas pockets, the others have all left the promotion and therefore theres no reason to favor a silva/gsp/mighty mouse/cejudo etc over his cash cow
My man Josh Barnett at 1:15 just CHILLING with Howard Jones?! One of best lead singers ever (KillswitchEngage and LightTheTorch)
and SION (;
Can you at least give Mark Hunt some credit for his fight against Werdum. He was called up on 2 weeks notice, had to cut near 20kgs, was going through a bunch personal issues and still knocked down Werdum 3 times before said ko
It’s not a list about the most graceful losses buddy boy😂
Brilliantly made list IMO. It’s clear cut, and allows for Jones to move up or down this list, could possibly include Gane in the future, or will solidify Stipe as the best for a long long time!
Clear cut as possible, obviously there’s what ifs. But it’s alright with me
Sylvia should the worst and how do you ever see Cyril Gane getting on this list? Tom Aspinall is up next after Jones is done lol
@@geraldgeraldson7640 Cyril may have lost but he’s still really good at fighting, just cuz he got submitted in round 1 doesn’t mean we should ignore his skill sets. He’s still a big problem at heavyweight. As for the dark age champions, it’s kinda hard to rank them all exactly bc there’s a lot of “win the belt, lose the belt” So you’re right, in some lists Sylvia should be at the bottom, but in others he might not be based on how they see it.
@@geraldgeraldson7640 Just you wait til Jailton Almeida makes it in the top 5.
@@Slappist_Cast I like jailton but his striking isn’t up to par with any of the top guys right now.
Seeing this truly puts into perspective how great fedor was
I wish we lived in the universe where Frank Mir didn't get pancaked and had 5 more title defenses. Would have been top 3 without a doubt.
i really feel bad for Ngannou, he always wanted to fight and just wanted what he was worth. I dont understand Dana's hatred of him, he couldve been the perfect champ especially since he garnered takedown defense and grappling.
Edit: how and why are so many of you believing Dana considering 50% of what he says is BS?
Maybe he was tough to deal with ?
But I agree, he said from the get go that he wants money.
Man got offered the largest HW contract in UFC history (more than what Jon made on his championship fight) and he still left. Its not about the money anymore, he wants the eazy fights in boxing or the other promotions not the actual challenges he will face in the UFC.
@@kross4998 do you really think that transitioning sports to fight Tyson Fury, possibly the most skilled boxer of all time, is chasing an easy fight? 😂
@@kross4998 Yes, totally agree
@@etlonjonh Bro, there are DW fanboys all over this sport. It is a bit sickening. I still cannot believe that there is a Commissioner/suit more popular than the athletes themselves. I really hope that this changes one day...
Randleman successfully defended the ufc belt against Rizzo before losing to Couture.
This might be the most off base i've ever seen you guys have an opinion. You used no title defenses multiple times as examples to why guys were low on the list and then put jones in the top ten who has no title defenses. Jones should be somewhere near the bottom. He beat somebody who wasn't a current champion and has no defenses yet. What he's done at 205 means nothing .
Jones broke the drake curse and the embedded haircut curse. Man is truly special.
Fr I saw the haircut and was sure he was done
And Shannon's prediction "curse"
He used both to cancel out the curse as a double negative lol
@@AaronTats That iq is just too good lol
Poirier broke the barber curse long time ago.
Surprised you guys put stipe as 1 happy you did tho
My all time favorite UFC HW champion will always be Arvloski. He got me into MMA with his finish of Paul Buentello
Crazy he’s still fighting
Arlovski didnt fear him or the consequences
That's about when I started watching, before Sylvia / Arlovsky.
arlovski and mir should be switching places on this list.
arlovski was one of the most feared heavyweights in any promotion at the time.
Definitely one of most fair list I’ve seen in a while!
What if DC hadnt poked the life out of stipes eyes in the first fight?
Arlovski started when I was in 8th/9th grade.... I'm 38 years old now!!!
That is F🤬CKING INSANE!!! 💪🏾👏🏾✌🏾
Barnett the worst because he a cheat? Didn't you guys just made a video telling us Jon Jones is definitely the GOAT? huh... Interesting...
Yeah Jones failed a lot of drug test but in my opinion if you put all of the fighters he fought on peds, Jon would still win
10:05 it’s hard to reconcile zero defenses. Let alone a promotion from an interim given your own caveat to start. He will prove he belongs far up this list if not sitting atop it. But his placement here makes absolutely zero sense given the insights for other fighters in this list.
All time? It’s gotta be either Stipe or Cain
Outstanding breakdown!
Ranking HW like this really might be the hardest division, because you have guys like DC and Couture, who had some of their best work at 205 but were also successful at HW, do you rank them just as HW, or by their entire body of work? Then you have a significant amount of time where PRIDE had a better HW division than UFC, that matters when you're comparing UFC HW of that era to other eras, and on top of that, steroids, which is an issue in the entire sport, but let's be real, it's a more meaningful issue at HW than at any other division.
This is the best video you've ever made.
im a poor UFC fan but i didn't realize Couture literally won 5 separate UFC belts plus an early tournament. That is beast level talent bro.
Too many of Couture’s fights were unearned title fights. He continually didn’t have to fight and win his way of the ladder to fight for the title. A lot of fighters careers would be different if they got the shots Randy always seemed to get.
Challenge! Do a Top 100 MMA fighters series! Just a content idea I just think you’d have some very interesting takes on your list.
For the 1 Million Subscriber special, there better be a top 10 for Houses sold by Al Iaquinta
I don't get why people rate dc so high on these lists, like bro had 2 championship fights. one he poked stipe in the eye and then punched him and knocked him out, and then fought Derrick Lewis and lost his next two to stipe. How is that number 2??
If you factor the Strikeforce wins it's not so bad. But yeah crazy people rank him so highly off just UFC heavyweight fights.
Note the UFC merged with strike force you'd think we'd factor in all the accomplishments there. Same with Pride.
@@tylerrobbins8311 that's fair but I still wouldn't rank him as high as some people put him
@@kingkyan4112 I agree with you, just giving some clarity that DC is an all time great at heavyweight.
I still rank mma over all Fedor over Stipe. But if it's just UFC I'd put Stipe #1 Coture at #2 with Sylvia at #3 Arlovski is definitely #4 with #5 as Mir. I'd rate Velazquez at#6 above JDS and DC.
Sure DC beat Stipe but its was by cheating, literally made him need eye surgery do it's a huge asterisk.
@@tylerrobbins8311cain at 6 is crazy and JDS below 6 is crazy.
Stipe and fedor are definitely the 2 greatest heavyweights of all time, but prime cain is the best heavyweight of all time imo
This new generation of HWs is good too. Just not as fun or notable as Cain Shane brock Frank JDS Nogueira Fabrcio and Randy
I need to rewatch that Rutten Randleman fight. I do remember it being robbery though.
The only reason DC got the HW title the 1st time was due to eye poking Stipe! Never mind him cheating his way to the LHW title as well.
Yeah DC is ranked way to high its actually disrespectful to guys like JDS & Werdum who have far better resumes without cheating & put more work at HW, Cain is above DC for damn sure
Daniel Cormier above Cain Valasquez is an outrage. I get that Daniel Cormier gets bonus points for his what if at light heavyweight and achieving double champ status, but yikes. Cain came up at a time when the heavyweight division was stacked killers and made them look like they were no where near his league. He got screwed over not only by injuries but also some fights knocking out crazy contenders making him fight Bigfoot and JDS twice over 4 fights. His run up and everything included during such a deep division... I could see them being switched around. Daniel should have 3rd and Cain 2nd.
Wow Ranking DC over Randy is something....
Great video as always tho
The best a bit about this video was at the end when you mentioned the guy the did the soundtrack. 😂😂. I didn't even know there was a soundtrack. I was to busy listening to you about the list. You said please follow them. I was like what for 😂😂. I didn't even know there was music
playing. I was in bits laughing 😂😂
Placing DC above Randy Couture is laughable! Do these guys know what they are talking about.
Need a follow up to this video where you just rank every heavyweight period.
Erm guys... Randleman has one successful title defence. He defeated Pedro Rizzo via UD at UFC 26.
Great show, but slight mistake was made, kevin Randleman, DID have a successful title defense, it was against Pedro rizzo at ufc 26, he won a clear ud.
What will JJ do on the list with one HW fight ?
When you beat someone you get partial credit for all those he previously beat.
However I think you are right. Until he defends the belt and proves it wasn’t a fluke…. Probably shouldn’t be on here.
Cant argue with this list at all, well done.
Except that they put Ngannou in top5. Over Randleman, Frank, Brock etc.
Make absolutely no sense at all.
Let Jon Jones surpass Stipe's four title defenses and then we'll talk about his GOAT status.
He didn't really show much in the weekend it was more Gane freezing up and making a massive mistake. Any number of heavyweights would have jumped all over that
Jones has his own legacy as does Stipe. Jones is undeniably the GOAT but Stipe is undeniably the Greatest Heavyweight of all time (GHAT?).
True but if he beats stipe then he is the better fighter even if stipe is more accomplished in heavyweight
Jon already has 13 title defenses against the best of the best. Which is more than any other fighter in all weight classes. Him passing 4 title defenses in heavyweight doesn't sound very unlikely.
10:26 I think 9 is more than fair to rank Jon in heavyweight… in fact I’d argue having him in the top 10 is debatable
no way dc is number 2. he only fought at heavyweight 6 times and went 4-2 with only 2 title wins
1-Stipe Miocic
2-Cain Velasquez
3-Daniel Cormier
4-Brock Lesnar
5-Randy Couture
6-Jon Jones
7-Francis Ngannou
8-Junior Dos Santos
9-Frank Mir
10-Andrei Arlovski
11-Fabricio Werdum
12-Kevin Randleman
13-Tim Sylvia
14-Maurice Smith
15-Ricco Rodriguez
16-Mark Coleman
17-Bas Rutten
18-Josh Barnett
Thank you mate
I still wouldn't put Jon that high, but this list is, otherwise, a lot better.
#2?? DC eye gouged his way to the belt and got rolfstomped when that didn't work
Facts.
Absolutely not, DC is ranked way too high. His win against Stipe was controversial. He was warned several times about eye pokes. His hook that knocked Stipe out was immediately after he poked Stipe in the eye, on the same side. He did the same thing in the two rematches. Stipe had a partial detached retina from it. Derrick Lewis had like 3 months between fights when he fought DC and he had a bad back, which was why he didn't really engage with Ngannou in that fight.
Small Nitpick but Randleman did defend the title against Pedro Rizzo at UFC 26
Great list, but the commentary given on DC’s reign I don’t think justifies his No. 2 spot. An argument could be made for such high status but it was not present here.
Otherwise, spot on list 👏
Great video
Jones being so highly ranked after a single win at heavyweight is insane to me. The guy he beat is a striker with some of the worst takedown defence we have seen in that division.
95 percent of the heavyweight division has horrible takedown defence
But Ngannou is way ahead of him, yet Ngannou lost to Miocic, he did then beat him - but only when Miocic was 40 years old.
He then went 5 rounds to a decision with the same guy that JJ put away in 2 mins. So I don't see why JJ is lower than Ngannou.
Go cry elsewhere haters
@@gged yeah it's not jones problem that heavyweight has nothing to offer him
@@gareth6326 stioe fans love to lie. stipe was 38 when francis beat him
The fact that this list has Josh Barnett as the worst because of steroids but on this channel 2 days ago they posted a video of Jon Jones sayin he is the goat is wild shit NGL.
It's not just about the steroids it's also about title defenses and Josh had zero
I think Jon is just looking to pass Stipes Heavyweight title defense record and call it a day. After that, he would pretty much be the GOAT of two divisions and his overall GOAT claim would be undeniable at that point.
Jones was 🐐 before moving up to Heavyweight causals said no wtf💯
Hope the ngannou fight happens before he retires tho
Jones is already the goat. He utterly dismantled at least 5 current, future, or former champions. Hes never even actually lost a fight.
@@WEAREALLJUSTMEAT I thin he lost too reyes but one of 16 is still crazy but i also think that was a fluke
Kevin randlman did pro wrestling in Japan and it is beyond entertaining
I'm surprised Francis is top 5. He didn't do much, looks like the other HW champs really didn't defend at all.
Request Top List: Most Eye Pokes
Surprised Tim Sylvia wasn’t at the top of this 😂
It's pretty crazy to wrap your head around now, but there was a time where a lot of people thought he was legitimately the best heavyweight of all time, and was going to remain champ for the foreseeable future.
@@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 I always used to see Tim Sylvia fight and think he's not shit but then I look at his record and it's pretty solid. Something about him however, always made me feel like he moved too clunky even for a heavyweight
@@lune6oslit716 back then really big guys were either kickboxers, or they were wrestlers. That's it. He was pretty much the only one who had submission skills and pretty decent boxing, so that made him pretty much impossible for all of the mid-tier guys he fought on his way up.
@@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 I imagine being 6'8 helps to a certain degree as well
@@lune6oslit716 yep, exactly what I mean, there were some other guys with multiple disciplines back then, but not a whole lot, and pretty much none with his size and power. And we should give the guy a little credit where it's due, he did have a high level of skill, just not compared to how the sport has advanced since then. Most giant monsters like him were just big goons that are awkward and gas out in 3 minutes.
Perfect list🔥🔥🔥🔥
I hate both Jones and McGregor. This will be a tough year for me.
Imagine for a moment if Cain had taken advantage of the TRT era, and came back Super-Cain?
Imagine Cain's skillset with the body of TRTitor. Scary shit.
Imagine if he fought @ sea level?
Cain super underrated on this list and in fans' memories. For some reason they all worship at the altar of cheating PED-user Jones who is scared out of his mind to fight a prime Ngannou.
Stipe #1!
You guy's forgot about Randlemans title defense of Pedro Rizzo.
Theses dude's are all beast..... Idk what anyone says
Yeah, they’d wreck pretty much everyone on the planet that isn’t on this list.
@@MScotty90 monsters.... These dude's are dangerous
Gotta love Tommy-the-cartoon-toehold and his unbiased breakdowns. As a numbers man myself, I love how analytical he gets. Tommy placing his boy JBJ that low on the list lets you know he's willing to swallow his biases and get to the hard truths. Jones fanboy as he may be, Tommy is realistic, and i respect it!
Jones was always terrified of facing a true champ like a prime Ngannou. Waited for him to leave UFC altogether before he even considered pretending to be a legit Heavyweight champ.
I like how half of these entries end with, “then they lost the belt to Randy Couture”.
Would have put it this way:
1. Miocic
2. Couture
3. Cain
4. DC
Nah Lesnar should be higher than dc
He did better than dc
@@kratos8529 Thats actually true. Put Lesnar on place 4 and DC one down.
@@GAMERGEBITER but Fabricio Werdum did better than lesnar
So you’re ranking guys lower due to “strength of schedule” but you’re automatically putting Jones at #9 because he beat a guy with no ground game, and saying he’ll be the best if he beats Stipe who is now in his 40’s. Totally makes sense.
Jon Jones' performance at UFC 285 wasn't impressive. I expected him to ragdoll Gane, to bloody his face, and to wrestle him like Ngannou couldn't. Any win of Jones that didn't go to a decision is more impressive, even the No Contest against DC!
Bro stfu he finished him in 2 minutes
It's crazy because no one in this division went on a crazy win streak truly the toughest division
I’d say Bas Rutten was the worst Heavyweight Champion ever and it pains me to say it as he’s likeable but he never should’ve even beat Kevin Randleman
Fighting Bas in his prime would be like fighting guy sensei irl
As someone from another dimension I can confidently say if we don't get Francis v Jon we're in one of the worst timelines. We already missed out on Tony v Khabib and Jones v Lesnar. How many epic fights can our species fail to deliver on for the combat gods? Come on humanity! 😭
We are in the right timeline. Jones is a PED-using cheating coward who intentionally ducked Ngannou before he even dreamed of going Heavyweight. He will now pretend to be some legendary Heavyweight champ by beating a past-his-prime Stipe.
If we are talking resumes at HW then Miocic is the best. If I'm talking p4p best fighters to fight in that weight class then I'm going Jones, Cormier, and Miocic. They would most likely beat all the other guys on that list.
My favorite UFC Fighter is Brock，He is the reason I start watching UFC😂
Ufc 100 was iconic.
Was it in the script to say number 15 twice?
Awesome vid as always.