The NRL tackling today is all wrestling..... Blame whoever was the first coach to bring in a person who knows olympic/amateur wrestling and taught that to the players. Storm just does it better but they didn't introduce & change the tackling style for rugby league/nrl
I’ve been saying this for years. Since they got rid of the biff it’s opened up the niggle for the little grubs. Like Kent says they only do it cause they know they’re not gonna cop 1 on the chin. Wouldn’t see a half or an outside back do that to Chief or Spud back in the day.
I agree with Kent. I’m sick of the little men being grubs because there’s a lack of punishment for their actions. The punch was there to sort the little, but strong men from the little and weak men
So not only is Kenty a medical expert now, he knows 'the doctor got it wrong', but he also has a crystal ball which tells the difference between a player milking a penalty and concussion from a hundred metres away.
They band the punch and now we get push-a-thons. Now halfbacks push props, remember when cheif and Tallis and Ian roberts and blocked played. No one pushed them, and most of the time a fight happened and they moved on, the all in brawl was already non existent by 2000 usually it’d be Tallis vs Ross and done. They sanitised the game and instead of cleaning it up they lowered the resistance to this pushing germ.
Hey serious question, as Canberra 13 was not in the field (waiting to be interchanged into the ground), if he did punch the Penrith 1 could be be sin binned?
This is BIGFACTS !!!! The realest comment on this whole post, And football red cards players who do outlandish celebrations lol, So there's another lesson learnt introduce some new tactics, f**k the fines LMAO, they all got money to blow bro, what's $1300 to a dude making over $200K Plus a year, They drink and eat $1300 lol.
Hahahaha pretty boy Wighton bashing boys from Mt Druitt? 😂😂😂 half of the Panthers grew up in housing commission in some of western Sydneys toughest suburbs trust me they know how to protect themselves 😂
@@JamesyMusial14 I'm not doubting them church boys can throw hands too ,but Jacky boy grew up in orange his fathers from bulgandramine mission and trust me these country boys can throw em too
Bin 3rd person in, Let the two going at it go at it then carry on Wighton and Feki had a good go at each other couple years ago and no one jumped let them go at it, was awesome
wow, 1st of all Big wrap on the West Tigers to go toe to toe with one of the big three. 2nd, in regards to the push you, now pull me, debacle, it's not (really) a clubs fault that a grown man thinks that a little bit of slap and tickle, with player on the opposite team could be exactly what this game needs to happen right now. Instead of sending off players, or having them miss a week or 2 for a non-violent foul, we instead place the incident on report, review the instigator and use... Fines, Massive Fines tens of thousands... I don't care how fast, strong or old you are, but when your mum, wife, girlfriend and/or boyfriend find out that you spent $60,000 just on a car, there are questions and consequences just for that decision, now imagine being fined $15,000-$20,000 for absolutely nothing, nothing more than being annoying. 3rd, The HIA is a touchy subject, I'm all for airing on the side of slow and steady, but I'm not 23 years old nowadays, (sh*t wish I was in my 30s) I mean if a young man/woman is given the thumbs up to play... (under advice post-HIA) he/she will. coaches know it, runners know it, Doctors know it... and so do the players parents, and loved ones.
Imagine the problems that would be solved if players were on match payments, no suspensions and fans missing out on premium footy players for weeks, take thier match payments!!!!
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 You're right. 'Joey' Johns and Brad Fittler also covered this issue on Sunday. Joey said that communication between the team doctor and the independent doctor is: A. almost non-existent B. Time. Games would be held up for over 20 minutes in order for the 'correct' medical decision. Major Problem- making the right medical decision for a concussed player within 50 seconds. Hence the problem that exists.
Referees stopping the game for a bit of pushing and shoving is part of the problem. Call play on and you won't get half the team taking themselves out of the game for no reason. If they have to stop the game or it happens when the ball is out of play then bin the 3rd guy.
Sigh, and then Buzz says the doctor is to blame (and Kenty agrees). No, don't blame the doctor, have another independent person ruling based on the video. Let's keep it simple and avoid blaming. The doctor can rule a person is concussed based on his tests but another independent person can also rule the person is concussed. Simple. Solved.
The more they mess with the rules the worse it gets. every rule brings another problem which brings another rule change which brings another problem and round and round we go. Just go back to the 1995 rules stop trying to change the game into something it never was. The people that complain about the odd punch up ignore. Get players to sign agreements that they accept and know the risks if they want to play. We live in a world with boxing and ufc i dont see why the NRL has to cotton wool their game and players. And go back and look at the crowds the game use to get and how it was played then women and kids loved it im not suggesting the late 70s violence just back to the 90s when there a mix of it all speed class skill toughness. spud and Harrigan, Alfie and Stuart, Mullins and Renouf. way more entertaining than the last 7 years
Does buzz not understand that Tommy was a character off the field? Beau Ryan (I think) is a character…off field. Panthers are just smug grubs nuff said.
Basketball you get a TQ. Football you get a yellow for over celebrating. Don't slow the game down, review it in retrospect and issue fines after the fact.
Whilst I don't care about players going to a bit if biff with each other. during a game. If they do want to get rid of the biff - every player involved $5000 individual fine for each biff that occurs in a game, club cops $10000 flat fine as well, on top of this any player who takes a swing regardless of whether it hits or not sin bin 5 mins. It will disappear in a week.
I used to think Kenty was stupid, and he can be, but Buzz is worse. Benny needs to stop these fools talking over the top of each other and break this discussion down to topics so Buzz can't take it in whatever direction he wants and try to conflate issues. This was a waste of time to listen to until Ben stepped in.
NFL - Unsportsmanlike Conduct & Taunting Penalties. Football - Yellow & Red cards for outlandish Celebrations and soft melee's. Introduce some new tactics that's what should happen in our game, What's the point of fine's !??!?!, These players make over $200K+ A YEAR, They Sh*t, drink and eat at least $1k - $3k, And blow at least $10k - $20k On there wives, clothing and other things lol. Fine's will do nothing that's like saying " Oh it only cost this too do this, I'll go a head and do it, Because I can " What it will do is stop the lower-tire players running in and stuff like that cause those poor blokes are only getting $1300-$10,00 a week/month lol.
These commentators get paid to talk and say stuff, anything if it means ratings. If you listen long enough they end contradicting themselves. If they don’t talk crap nobody watches the show. Their verbal nonsense is not much different from league players pushing and shoving each other.
Must be acting coaches on the payroll down in Melbourne. Some would say faking injury is cheating? Munster was caught high.. not sure about the "high" shot on Hughes. (Barely high enough to feather a nipple) Melbourne "its only a rort if you're not in on it" storm
Amazed you didn't blame the panthers vs raider's melee on the storms wrestling.
Hahaha fck that's gold bro
The NRL tackling today is all wrestling..... Blame whoever was the first coach to bring in a person who knows olympic/amateur wrestling and taught that to the players.
Storm just does it better but they didn't introduce & change the tackling style for rugby league/nrl
We know who's to blame for banning the shoulder charge, so blame who is responsible. Not the team who became best at what all teams are doing.
The storms wrestling has been a blight on the game since 1895 lol
In a Rugby League players poll an overwhelming 49% of players voted for the Storm as the dirtiest team in the competition.
Just bring back the biff!
Get over it. Its never coming back
Remember only a few weeks ago Kenty was saying “grow a brain, no one is gonna fake HIA”.
It's not even the HIA thing, it's the foul play replacement. It's been a rule for ages.
@@michaelolofsson8558 it’s an hia thing because of how he went down milking the penalty
How do u know players don’t or won’t fake HIAs ?
@@danielkelly4487 have you had a whack to the head by an NRL player at speed?
@@joshw3090 kind of my point mate should of been a hia
buzz is past it...
I love the way Ben Ikin just watches...and he is the accomplished footballer from the three..All due respect to them..
He's aging terribly. Looks like he has aged 10 years in the last 3 years
So does Braith
I’ve been saying this for years. Since they got rid of the biff it’s opened up the niggle for the little grubs. Like Kent says they only do it cause they know they’re not gonna cop 1 on the chin. Wouldn’t see a half or an outside back do that to Chief or Spud back in the day.
I agree with Kent. I’m sick of the little men being grubs because there’s a lack of punishment for their actions. The punch was there to sort the little, but strong men from the little and weak men
4 old men arguing gets tiring also why do they always pick on the older guy when he has good points
Some of it is just for entertainment. They wind Buzz up. They love to get a reaction. Buzz knows that and comes to play.
That’s what I was laughing at haha Buzz always copping it
They can't just have four guys sucking each other off, you need conflict
So not only is Kenty a medical expert now, he knows 'the doctor got it wrong', but he also has a crystal ball which tells the difference between a player milking a penalty and concussion from a hundred metres away.
Mate if you go down like that to milk a penalty you should be coming off for hia
Nothing worse then pathetic reporters judging the game and where it should be !
The only ones questioning how the game should be is ex nrl players!!!
Kent and hooper should go for an HIA
No one was milking a penalty though, Munsters was a clear cut head high, Harry Grants was an accidental headknock
@@jonadams894 he was milking the severity of it , he went down like he was knocked out cold yet no hia go figure
Buzz is just an old man making irrelevant points because he had a voice 25 years ago
Geeez does Kenty ever shut up. He’s getting on my nerves.
James “my sources are saying” Hooper is a muppet too.
Then why do you watch 360 then?
@@Zmart30 cause we can
@@poavao6832 if you’re just gonna trash Kenty and don’t like watching or listening to him then why the hell do you watch 360? Makes no sense
@@Zmart30 I watch it for rugby league 🤦🏿♂️
@@poavao6832 so there shouldn’t be any reason to complain if you are watching 360 for rugby league
They band the punch and now we get push-a-thons. Now halfbacks push props, remember when cheif and Tallis and Ian roberts and blocked played. No one pushed them, and most of the time a fight happened and they moved on, the all in brawl was already non existent by 2000 usually it’d be Tallis vs Ross and done. They sanitised the game and instead of cleaning it up they lowered the resistance to this pushing germ.
Hey serious question, as Canberra 13 was not in the field (waiting to be interchanged into the ground), if he did punch the Penrith 1 could be be sin binned?
NFL has unsportsmanlike conduct and taunting penalties. Introduce them here
This is BIGFACTS !!!! The realest comment on this whole post, And football red cards players who do outlandish celebrations lol, So there's another lesson learnt introduce some new tactics, f**k the fines LMAO, they all got money to blow bro, what's $1300 to a dude making over $200K Plus a year, They drink and eat $1300 lol.
Not the taunting penalties 🤦♂️ the most pussy thing ever 👀
they also have an offence and defence team and wear body armour with helmets. Yeah lets do like the yanks.......SMH!
@@renegadeone2058 trust the yanks to come up with something like that. lmao
I think all the push and shove adds to the spectacle
Simple bring back the biff
That Tyrone may loves a shirt grab from behind but watch him tuck tail when jacky wighton comes over!!! Absolute cat
They all simmered down when big Jacky came over. He would of pumped someone if they were able to throw
Hahahaha pretty boy Wighton bashing boys from Mt Druitt? 😂😂😂 half of the Panthers grew up in housing commission in some of western Sydneys toughest suburbs trust me they know how to protect themselves 😂
@@JamesyMusial14 I'm not doubting them church boys can throw hands too ,but Jacky boy grew up in orange his fathers from bulgandramine mission and trust me these country boys can throw em too
@@Aka_Luthy yeah big jack who gets drunk and picks people on the street who can’t fight.
@@jimmybill1963 well its not like he can offer c unts out on the field hey hero
Bin 3rd person in, Let the two going at it go at it then carry on
Wighton and Feki had a good go at each other couple years ago and no one jumped let them go at it, was awesome
Journos are clearly a shining example of morality and ethics...
What do you think Anthony siebold doing right now?
Don't like agreeing with any of them but Buzz seriously losing it!
Buzz being a someone is more embarrassing than the melees
with the harry grant thing maybe he wasn’t concussed, after a big hit are you not allowed to go down for a second? 🤦♂️
Buzz is a old whinging woman with everything on this show. He is seriously unbelievable
Sticky really has something against Penrith 😂😂
ts a melee about melees ?
The NRL is so sad now the legends must be beside themselves.
wow,
1st of all Big wrap on the West Tigers to go toe to toe with one of the big three.
2nd,
in regards to the push you,
now pull me,
debacle,
it's not (really) a clubs fault that a grown man thinks that a little bit of slap and tickle,
with player on the opposite team could be exactly what this game needs to happen right now.
Instead of sending off players,
or having them miss a week or 2 for a non-violent foul,
we instead place the incident on report,
review the instigator and use...
Fines,
Massive Fines
tens of thousands...
I don't care how fast, strong or old you are,
but when your mum, wife, girlfriend and/or boyfriend find out that you spent $60,000 just on a car,
there are questions and consequences just for that decision,
now imagine being fined $15,000-$20,000 for absolutely nothing,
nothing more than being annoying.
3rd,
The HIA is a touchy subject,
I'm all for airing on the side of slow and steady,
but I'm not 23 years old nowadays,
(sh*t wish I was in my 30s)
I mean if a young man/woman is given the thumbs up to play...
(under advice post-HIA)
he/she will.
coaches know it,
runners know it,
Doctors know it...
and so do the players parents,
and loved ones.
Buzz it's time to enjoy retirement...
It’s a very physical contact sport and they’re carrying on about this? Harden up.
Excalty
The games tough enough there's no need to throw punches even though its exciting I'd rather win the match than the fight anyway
Imagine the problems that would be solved if players were on match payments, no suspensions and fans missing out on premium footy players for weeks, take thier match payments!!!!
Guernsey pulling is preferable to your panel talking over each other.........what a shambles.
Simple - allow the team doctors to watch the replay footage to help them assess their on field decision
They do
@@crazyprayingmantis5596
You're right.
'Joey' Johns and Brad Fittler also covered this issue on Sunday.
Joey said that communication between the team doctor and the independent doctor is:
A. almost non-existent
B. Time. Games would be held up for over 20 minutes in order for the 'correct' medical decision.
Major Problem- making the right medical decision for a concussed player within 50 seconds. Hence the problem that exists.
Kent should drop off he is a first class goose ....
I’m a panthers fan but yeah they did go overboard lol celebrate without pulling the other players into it lol
I’m glad brutha, I’m a Parra supporter and I always called out Kenny Edward’s when he would hug the other team after they tried.
Kentys got it in one.
How long until the bounce Buzz off he misses the point of the conversation so much these days it is pretty sad
Concussions are NRL doctors to decide
Simple sollution , let them throw hands again
Referees stopping the game for a bit of pushing and shoving is part of the problem. Call play on and you won't get half the team taking themselves out of the game for no reason. If they have to stop the game or it happens when the ball is out of play then bin the 3rd guy.
Sigh, and then Buzz says the doctor is to blame (and Kenty agrees). No, don't blame the doctor, have another independent person ruling based on the video. Let's keep it simple and avoid blaming.
The doctor can rule a person is concussed based on his tests but another independent person can also rule the person is concussed. Simple. Solved.
Bro don’t underestimate the boys from mount druitt ⛓💯
Just leave buzz on forever to go against everyone lol hes too funny
I watch less and less footy these days, over governed and the bunker takes for ever, the refs seem to be more important than the players and fans,
Jarrod Croker did nothing to minimise the melee. He actually shoved Liam Martin after the try.
Cause Martin gave him a spray on the way past.
Storm in a tea cup.
Easy fix bring back the biff not many will do it because of the hia rule when they get knocked out.
Neymar now playing 6 for the Storm ?
You might as well go back to unlimited interchange. That's what it looks to me.
Amen Ricky
The more they mess with the rules the worse it gets. every rule brings another problem which brings another rule change which brings another problem and round and round we go. Just go back to the 1995 rules stop trying to change the game into something it never was. The people that complain about the odd punch up ignore. Get players to sign agreements that they accept and know the risks if they want to play. We live in a world with boxing and ufc i dont see why the NRL has to cotton wool their game and players. And go back and look at the crowds the game use to get and how it was played then women and kids loved it im not suggesting the late 70s violence just back to the 90s when there a mix of it all speed class skill toughness. spud and Harrigan, Alfie and Stuart, Mullins and Renouf. way more entertaining than the last 7 years
Buzz seems like a right wind up Merchant
Does buzz not understand that Tommy was a character off the field? Beau Ryan (I think) is a character…off field. Panthers are just smug grubs nuff said.
Basketball you get a TQ. Football you get a yellow for over celebrating. Don't slow the game down, review it in retrospect and issue fines after the fact.
The no fighting has opened doors for players like Reece Walsh to come in acting like a hard man, absolutely stupid
3rd man in sin binned and everyone else fined hahaha. That would work tomorrow.
Whilst I don't care about players going to a bit if biff with each other. during a game. If they do want to get rid of the biff - every player involved $5000 individual fine for each biff that occurs in a game, club cops $10000 flat fine as well, on top of this any player who takes a swing regardless of whether it hits or not sin bin 5 mins. It will disappear in a week.
Poor Kent.
Ricky should worry about hes own backyard instead of worrying about the Panther, need to give it away
Whatever we’ve got to do......get rid of of the melee.
I watch every game to see if there's a melee, best part of the game let them go
I used to think Kenty was stupid, and he can be, but Buzz is worse.
Benny needs to stop these fools talking over the top of each other and break this discussion down to topics so Buzz can't take it in whatever direction he wants and try to conflate issues.
This was a waste of time to listen to until Ben stepped in.
I support Ricky!
It’s just a bit of harmless pushing and shoving stop sooking over nothing
NFL - Unsportsmanlike Conduct & Taunting Penalties.
Football - Yellow & Red cards for outlandish Celebrations and soft melee's.
Introduce some new tactics that's what should happen in our game, What's the point of fine's !??!?!, These players make over $200K+ A YEAR, They Sh*t, drink and eat at least $1k - $3k, And blow at least $10k - $20k On there wives, clothing and other things lol. Fine's will do nothing that's like saying " Oh it only cost this too do this, I'll go a head and do it, Because I can " What it will do is stop the lower-tire players running in and stuff like that cause those poor blokes are only getting $1300-$10,00 a week/month lol.
Or we just bring back the old punch up,when the game was enjoyable
On yah buzz raiders where the ones who overreacted 😂 Can’t hand getting beat by the mighty panthers 💪🏼
None of the Panthers could hold there own
Mt Druitt boys flog Canberra at footy and fighting
The mt druitt junkies all hyped up on ice
They love shouting at old men. Turning this game so soft now. Bring back the biff. First punch a yellow second a red
I cant stand hooper. He belongs on E news
its just a quick cuddle 3rd man in has to kiss the others 🐭
That was nothing, they’re just looking for a topic to speak about, the more conflict, the more views
Even teams has a plane there tough till they get punch in the face just play good foot play no show pony’s
Can’t stand these jersey pulling kids all smiling. Stuart is right. It is not professional. Instigators need to be fined, end of story.
😄😅 Nothing there lmao
Yeah chrighton and Luai softc@#$ hahaha
These four flops again!!
I sure hope they turn this good game into touch footy
James Hooper and Paul Kent are flogs.
These commentators get paid to talk and say stuff, anything if it means ratings. If you listen long enough they end contradicting themselves. If they don’t talk crap nobody watches the show. Their verbal nonsense is not much different from league players pushing and shoving each other.
They should ban all these old blokes chattin shhhh with all their ideas
I dont see anything wrong with it :)
The old man knows you two are jealous of the form of the Panthers 👎
Buzz Biden.
Can someone melee this panel 🤣🤣
hocky style light them fight it out
Give up Rothfield!
Melee’s are embarrassing 😂
Must be acting coaches on the payroll down in Melbourne. Some would say faking injury is cheating? Munster was caught high.. not sure about the "high" shot on Hughes. (Barely high enough to feather a nipple)
Melbourne "its only a rort if you're not in on it" storm
You the man Buzz
I don't see anything wrong with it
Phil and Sterlo are outdated sick of hearing from them
Should ban tackling next
Buzz is an absolute joke
Bring the biff back drop these lil cocky grub
3rd man out!
Yer just poor sportmanship. Get it gone its silly an yer old days are gone. But fullas paid well to not do it.
Bring back rhe biff
Pretty lame by panthers tbh
Buzz has a pea brain