This is a massively underrated channel - these vids are better than most of the vids with 300k+ views. I just bought a 2012 F10 M5 with 100k km and a stage 2 tune, from Sydney... so I hope I never need this but I'm glad it's here if I do :D
I Saw your comment on my post on FB for N63/S63, I will finish engine dis assembly is next step, as all I am looking for is a nice ride may just buy a running doner , but we shall see, once I complete tear down.
Thats gonna depend on how your'e rebuilding it - The stock BMW work really well on the stock block however if you're sleeving it your could get some Goetze rings as they are good and cheap !
Hey again master of S63s! :) Thank you again for all of those videos, it helped me a lot. I have a question about the oil clearance. What about using the flexigauge from acl? it's not a good option? thank you again for your reply and the perfect job you are doing!!!!
Hi, Plastigauge / Flexigauge are good options for checking clearances while the engine is still in the car / assembled since you cannot have any movement on the parts in order to have a proper reading - I find easier to use a mic and bore gauge while the parts are loose on the bench.
I thought sleeving was a pretty safe and reliable option until the m539 n62 blew up after 100 miles, do you have any thoughts on what went wrong with his build? I see a lot of engine builders still sleeving the block so it works of course but I wonder what else you need to watch out for. Would you use bigger piston to wall clearance on stock/non forged pistons as well?
Hi, yes I was shaking after watching his video because I had just picked up my block from the machine shop a day earlier and that was the first S63 I had sleeved (about 2 years ago) He posted an update video after a few weeks and the machine shop did not hone the sleeves properly causing his engine to seize. I have about 15k kms put on my X5M since the build and it’s going strong. With the stock pistons I’d recommend using about .04 clearance and get them thermal / teflon coated specially if you’re re-using the pistons - you also need different rings (not the OEM BMW) to use with the cast iron sleeves
@@dnl35projectsspecifically which piston rings do you use for a sleeved block application? And what ring gaps should I be aiming for? Great videos, btw 👌🏻 thanks and keep it up
Yes, they definitely heat more than the aluminium block and that’s why we have to use increased clearances however they are much stronger and basically the most viable option (financially) for the S63
Hi, unfortunately we had a few fitment issues and they are working to produce new parts within the correct specification - I should have an update video once the engine is running.
Hi, if you’re building a standard engine (stock pistons and rings) I’d use 0.35 on the first and 0.40 or 045mm for the second ring - if it’s a forged or aftermarket piston/rings you may increase the end gap.
for the point of undersized: then why customer dont go over size bearing to make the car main & rod bearing, could accept thicker oil viscosity like 5w50 ?
Thats not really how it works, getting an oversized or undersized bearing has nothing to do with oil clearances at all - An oversized bearing is to be used when your rod big end is too big and an undersized bearing is to be used when your crank has been machined dow (material taken from it) - A few companies offer "extra clearance bearings" but hat has nothing to do with them being under or over sized.
Hi, that varies a lot depending on how bad your engine is (if its bad at all) For a good running S63 (not seized or knocking) you are looking at around USD$4k in parts plus labour which should be another $5k as well. If your engine is seized like this one in the video and you have to add pistons, rods, crank and machine shop costs it can easily get past the $15k mark
The engine coolant is there for that reason. Sleeving the block with iron is a win-win - it gets stronger and holds much more boost without risking damages to cylinder walls
Hi, I get them sleeved through a friend who owns a machine shop / engine rebuild business in Sydney for over 30 years - I asked to share their details on my videos but they refused saying they cannot take any more work from outside
ACL actually calls them OVERSIZED and they have 3 sizes STANDARD, .025, and .25 which you are using, they are OVERSIZED BEARINGS. correct me if im wrong but thats exactly what it says on their website lol
You are mildly right but technically WRONG ! Yes they manufacture oversized bearings however they are for different applications and have material added to the EXTERNAL side of the bearing which is the opposite to what we are discussing in this video and have nothing to do with grinding the crankshaft. Check ACL's latest catalog and don't rely on what eBay sellers claim.
@@dnl35projects was over at the forums and you are correct they are undersized bearings, lang racing does this job and says it increases surface area by 15%, wider than the S63 stock bearing but also slightly smaller in diameter. They take damaged crank journals and have them re-ground to accept the wider bearing. is this the same job you have done here? you can google it by searching - S63 Rod Bearing Journal Widening Kit Including Crankshaft Journal Modification. Its by lang racing... wondering if this is exactly what you have done here in this job aside from the sleeved block which is awesome if done correctly. Love the videos man, been watching the whole series since last year and still am! The mileage on my s63 M6 Gran Coupe is 53k miles so im thinking of doing the Rod bearing job real soon.
No we didn’t increase the journal sizes. A few companies have come up with solutions for problems that would not exist if the oil changes are done more frequently and this is what I’d stick with. I’m glad you like the videos, thanks
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Thanks ! I hope you enjoy the current and future videos 👍
Love your vids, this is the most detail S63tu videos on youtube
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Great content, very well presented. I subscribe now and will follow the build of this awesome S63. Greetings from Germany.
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Been looking forward to this video since your last one a few months ago, great job my friend!
Thank you ! The next vids shouldn't take as long
This is a massively underrated channel - these vids are better than most of the vids with 300k+ views. I just bought a 2012 F10 M5 with 100k km and a stage 2 tune, from Sydney... so I hope I never need this but I'm glad it's here if I do :D
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Again, great content! And good timing...I'm at this point with my S63, cleaning parts and getting ready to check clearances.
Thanks ! Yes that is the most important part of the build in my opinion
New viewer and subscriber. I love your presentation style and I have absolutely been starving for this sort of content.
Thank you - I’m glad you like it
I Saw your comment on my post on FB for N63/S63, I will finish engine dis assembly is next step, as all I am looking for is a nice ride may just buy a running doner , but we shall see, once I complete tear down.
You'll put a lot of time into it but its well worth it - Do the job right and you'll have a great car for years to come
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Can you recommend me piston rigs set for my f85 I am planning to rebuild ?
Thats gonna depend on how your'e rebuilding it - The stock BMW work really well on the stock block however if you're sleeving it your could get some Goetze rings as they are good and cheap !
Been waiting a while for this
Thanks - the next vids should not take as long
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Valew brother !
Hey again master of S63s! :) Thank you again for all of those videos, it helped me a lot. I have a question about the oil clearance. What about using the flexigauge from acl? it's not a good option? thank you again for your reply and the perfect job you are doing!!!!
Hi, Plastigauge / Flexigauge are good options for checking clearances while the engine is still in the car / assembled since you cannot have any movement on the parts in order to have a proper reading - I find easier to use a mic and bore gauge while the parts are loose on the bench.
What gap do you need for the rings? I have the exact pistons for a stock S63 block, thank you
On a stock block I’d use around .3 for the first ring and 0.4mm for the second ring
@@dnl35projects Thank you very much for your reply 🙏, just waiting for the cranckshaft from kingtech then I will put it all together!
Awesome ! I was keen on getting a crankshaft from them as well ... let me know how your build goes - Cheers
You’re back 💪💪💪
Hi, yes it took a while but I'm back 😝 The next vids shouldn't take as long
Hey, great videos ! What oil grade and brand do you recommend using on these engines ?
Hi, I run 5w40 Full synthetic oil in this engines
After you grind these cranks, do you need to get the journal’s surface hardened?
No, they just ground it to spec keeping in mind the new bearing clearances
I thought sleeving was a pretty safe and reliable option until the m539 n62 blew up after 100 miles, do you have any thoughts on what went wrong with his build? I see a lot of engine builders still sleeving the block so it works of course but I wonder what else you need to watch out for. Would you use bigger piston to wall clearance on stock/non forged pistons as well?
Hi, yes I was shaking after watching his video because I had just picked up my block from the machine shop a day earlier and that was the first S63 I had sleeved (about 2 years ago)
He posted an update video after a few weeks and the machine shop did not hone the sleeves properly causing his engine to seize. I have about 15k kms put on my X5M since the build and it’s going strong.
With the stock pistons I’d recommend using about .04 clearance and get them thermal / teflon coated specially if you’re re-using the pistons - you also need different rings (not the OEM BMW) to use with the cast iron sleeves
@@dnl35projects damn, glad It worked out for you and looking forward to this build. N63/S63 content is rare so thank you for documenting your work.
@@dnl35projectsspecifically which piston rings do you use for a sleeved block application? And what ring gaps should I be aiming for? Great videos, btw 👌🏻 thanks and keep it up
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Opa, sou sim 👍 Valeu brother !
Cast iron conducts heat worse, I don't know if it's a better option.
Yes, they definitely heat more than the aluminium block and that’s why we have to use increased clearances however they are much stronger and basically the most viable option (financially) for the S63
I been waiting 5 months for you to drop pt 1 😫
🤣 part 1 is the crankshaft assembly - please give me a week
Apologies it took soo long
@@dnl35projects it’s okay I know stuff take time I appreciate all the information. 🙏
Is the Kingtech product compatible without any problems?
Hi, unfortunately we had a few fitment issues and they are working to produce new parts within the correct specification - I should have an update video once the engine is running.
I cannot find the acceptable piston ring gap anywhere. Is it 0.35mm for the top and 0.50mm for the middle? Is this something you may share?
Hi, if you’re building a standard engine (stock pistons and rings) I’d use 0.35 on the first and 0.40 or 045mm for the second ring - if it’s a forged or aftermarket piston/rings you may increase the end gap.
for the point of undersized: then why customer dont go over size bearing to make the car main & rod bearing, could accept thicker oil viscosity like 5w50 ?
Thats not really how it works, getting an oversized or undersized bearing has nothing to do with oil clearances at all - An oversized bearing is to be used when your rod big end is too big and an undersized bearing is to be used when your crank has been machined dow (material taken from it) - A few companies offer "extra clearance bearings" but hat has nothing to do with them being under or over sized.
Great video, it’s been a while. What do you think the engine build will cost including labour and materials?
Hi, that varies a lot depending on how bad your engine is (if its bad at all) For a good running S63 (not seized or knocking) you are looking at around USD$4k in parts plus labour which should be another $5k as well. If your engine is seized like this one in the video and you have to add pistons, rods, crank and machine shop costs it can easily get past the $15k mark
@@dnl35projects Thanks. But those costs really make the core exchange from BMW US for $6k far more attractive than attempting a rebuilt, no offence!
Sleeving the block has the downside because cast iron does not dissipate heat as well as aluminum. This is why Alusil is superior to sleeved blocks.
The engine coolant is there for that reason. Sleeving the block with iron is a win-win - it gets stronger and holds much more boost without risking damages to cylinder walls
Who did the sleeving in Sydney?
Hi, I get them sleeved through a friend who owns a machine shop / engine rebuild business in Sydney for over 30 years - I asked to share their details on my videos but they refused saying they cannot take any more work from outside
@@dnl35projects they arent in Artarmon are they?
No but I heard the guys in Artarmon are good as well since they do many of the modern Porsche engines.
ACL actually calls them OVERSIZED and they have 3 sizes STANDARD, .025, and .25 which you are using, they are OVERSIZED BEARINGS. correct me if im wrong but thats exactly what it says on their website lol
You are mildly right but technically WRONG ! Yes they manufacture oversized bearings however they are for different applications and have material added to the EXTERNAL side of the bearing which is the opposite to what we are discussing in this video and have nothing to do with grinding the crankshaft. Check ACL's latest catalog and don't rely on what eBay sellers claim.
@@dnl35projects was over at the forums and you are correct they are undersized bearings, lang racing does this job and says it increases surface area by 15%, wider than the S63 stock bearing but also slightly smaller in diameter. They take damaged crank journals and have them re-ground to accept the wider bearing. is this the same job you have done here? you can google it by searching - S63 Rod Bearing Journal Widening Kit Including Crankshaft Journal Modification. Its by lang racing... wondering if this is exactly what you have done here in this job aside from the sleeved block which is awesome if done correctly. Love the videos man, been watching the whole series since last year and still am! The mileage on my s63 M6 Gran Coupe is 53k miles so im thinking of doing the Rod bearing job real soon.
No we didn’t increase the journal sizes. A few companies have come up with solutions for problems that would not exist if the oil changes are done more frequently and this is what I’d stick with. I’m glad you like the videos, thanks
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