Chris I just finished my rebuild of my t56 for my Pontiac GTO and I couldn't have done it without your help. The tremec t56 manual is pretty vague in some areas but your videos got me through it thanks again for saving me about $1000 at the shop
I have been a jet engine and aircraft mechanic most of my life. F-18, 747, you name it. This was very impressive. Not a gearbox mechanic even though jet engines have gear boxes, they don't change gears. Very cool. Peace.
Thanks for the video, Chris, I am doing the same thing to my 1St Gen right now, and it was good for me as the last time I did a complete T56 build was in 2005...
Odd question here.. I'm looking to build a short transmission without the tail end on for my model A which I'll make an adapter for a clam shell to run the torque tube on. So I have a T170 from a ford F150 1985 (3+OD) and I want to know if a main shaft from a T176 (from a Jeep J10, CJ7, J20...) will work in the T170 ? thanks
There is a special GM puller for the 5/6 gear if that's the one you're referring to. Aside from using the GM puller arms with a hydraulic puller and some heat, then the next step for me would be a trans shop unfortunately. Good luck.
Many thanks for this, at the moment I have a t56 which makes noise all but when I push the clutch pedal in (i.e disengage the clutch). When I drained the fluid it came out dark gray/almost black by the way. This leads me to believe that there is alot of friction in the parts and thus alot of wear on them as well. I've never torn a transmission apart nor do I know what to look for when I do so. But hopefully, these videos will help.
Question? If I’m just wanting to replace my flint plate would I still need to disassemble the transmission to this level or could I just remove the bolts holding the faceplate on like you did I. The beginning and swap it over?
Chris Bruno aye yea that is right. I have a TR6060 but it’s the one with the front plate and bell house in one and I need the one with the separated bellhousing and front plate. I may just get the tools to clearance it properly or take it to a shop 😭😭
Need a huge favour. You seem to know the TR6060 really well. I needed to pull out only the input shaft. I know on the older T56 you can just take the front cover off and remove the input shaft. I know on the TR6060 input shaft, the gear (4th gear) has a lip/flange which sits being the counter shaft gear which makes it harder to remove, but ive heard its still possible with a little “wiggle wiggle”. Can you confirm if I can remove the input shaft on the TR6060 without a complete teardown and just remove it from the front?
I may have missed it, but why are you doing this rebuild? Did you experience some noise or poor shift quality? I know in part 2 you mentioned a bad fit with the 5&6 gear on the shaft, but don't say that was the reason you performed the rebuild.
It was having trouble engaging in certain shifts. I expected to find the synchros trashed, but as you can see, they weren't. I ended up needing to replace the clutch master cylinder - that was the root cause of everything. Of course, had I replaced that first, then I wouldn't have made these videos!
Thanks for the info! I'm in the process of tearing mine down and the last gear on the main shaft before pulling the casing is where I'm stuck at. I see yours pulled right off without a puller. Im going to check their website and see if they have it available
56 sec mark; The breather tube. Any chance you know were I can purchase the breather cap? In the process of swapping to an LS7 Clutch and was looking to see if there was anything worth rebuilding while I had it out, but will probably just stick to replacing the missing cap Ha. The Car does make some grumbly swirly noise at Idle with the clutch out; Not sure if that will be resolved by the new LS7 slave, or if the noise is coming from worn components in the trans. Thanks 05-V
AAIIIC from cadillacforums - I've had your rebuild thread on standby ever since you posted it up and then did these videos. Just getting started with a used CTS-V T56 that I picked up to rebuild. I knocked off the nut on the output shaft with an impact. I noticed you used a 3-jaw puller to get the output flange off, and it looks like it took some work. On mine, that output flange slipped right off by hand. Is that a bad sign? Should it be a press fit onto the splines, thus requiring a puller of some sort?
Hey AAIIC. Hopefully by now you've figured this out - sorry I took so long to respond. In any case, if it wobbles on the output shaft I would probably be worried, but otherwise you're probably OK. I honestly wasn't expecting mine to put up such a fight, but it seemed comical to me when I did the editing so I left it in there.
I did not know that Tremec T-56 was made by Borg-Warner. Is it true? I had a Borg-Warner factory 5 speed in a 1976 Pontiac Ventura that I factory ordered. I kept it for 19 years and it was great. No issues ever, but I knew guys that destroyed them fast. Helps if you know how to drive I guess.
@@SlideruleRacingProducts I know we would click, i say the eXACT same thing, I also have a LOT of cheap harbor freight stuff, most of it is better than you'd think!
Search for "Wilde Tool G409P" on Amazon. That's where I got mine. The large hydraulic 3 jaw puller as well as the smaller manual 3 jaws all came from Harbor Freight.
Let me take a shot in the dark here, the infamous extreme vibration in the Vehicle from around 70-85mph? Getting ready to pull the T56 out of my 1997 Comp Trans Am. Only 52K miles on the car, motor and trans. But ill bet my 5/6 slides off just as easily lol
This video was my first and only time rebuilding a car manual trans. In pretty much all my videos, I'm learning as I go. Sometimes I edit out some of my trial and error, but most of the time I leave it in. For this rebuild, I read A LOT online and in the factory manuals before I started. I also had a lot of experience tearing apart motorcycle transmissions, so the basic functionality wasn't foreign to me.
Hey quick question what does 3rd gear mesh into thinking mines busted and wanna buy what ever it meshes into bedore rebuilding already got a new 3rd gear but cant find what it meshes into
@@Hawk-gu8kj 'Mesh with' is far too general to give you advice. I suggest you disassemble and figure out what's wrong before ordering any parts. Could be as simple as synchros or something much worse.
Chris I just finished my rebuild of my t56 for my Pontiac GTO and I couldn't have done it without your help. The tremec t56 manual is pretty vague in some areas but your videos got me through it thanks again for saving me about $1000 at the shop
Glad I could help! If you haven't already, please subscribe! I need to get to 1000 subscribers to start getting YT revenue again!
I have been a jet engine and aircraft mechanic most of my life. F-18, 747, you name it. This was very impressive. Not a gearbox mechanic even though jet engines have gear boxes, they don't change gears. Very cool. Peace.
Late to the party but this video is great. Thanks for keeping it no-nonsense and brief.
Thank you!
Thanks for the video, Chris, I am doing the same thing to my 1St Gen right now, and it was good for me as the last time I did a complete T56 build was in 2005...
Odd question here..
I'm looking to build a short transmission without the tail end on for my model A which I'll make an adapter for a clam shell to run the torque tube on. So I have a T170 from a ford F150 1985 (3+OD) and I want to know if a main shaft from a T176 (from a Jeep J10, CJ7, J20...) will work in the T170 ?
thanks
Very well documented, Thank you for making this video, super helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Impressed at the lack of complexity of this gear box, compared to a 4L60e
adding to my list i have the same car and know ill need these videos one day.
I thought this car was sooo cool and now I hate it
That violent pop out of reverse kills me
What socket size is that tail nut, the one you are removing at 2:11
30mm
At 5:23 the gear that you just slid off Is stuck on my T56, I have tried heat, a puller and multiple different prying solutions. Any ideas?
There is a special GM puller for the 5/6 gear if that's the one you're referring to. Aside from using the GM puller arms with a hydraulic puller and some heat, then the next step for me would be a trans shop unfortunately. Good luck.
Many thanks for this, at the moment I have a t56 which makes noise all but when I push the clutch pedal in (i.e disengage the clutch). When I drained the fluid it came out dark gray/almost black by the way. This leads me to believe that there is alot of friction in the parts and thus alot of wear on them as well. I've never torn a transmission apart nor do I know what to look for when I do so. But hopefully, these videos will help.
Question? If I’m just wanting to replace my flint plate would I still need to disassemble the transmission to this level or could I just remove the bolts holding the faceplate on like you did I. The beginning and swap it over?
Not sure.. getting the new one back on might be tricky and you won't have set the clearances correctly to the plate.
Chris Bruno aye yea that is right. I have a TR6060 but it’s the one with the front plate and bell house in one and I need the one with the separated bellhousing and front plate. I may just get the tools to clearance it properly or take it to a shop 😭😭
Need a huge favour. You seem to know the TR6060 really well. I needed to pull out only the input shaft. I know on the older T56 you can just take the front cover off and remove the input shaft. I know on the TR6060 input shaft, the gear (4th gear) has a lip/flange which sits being the counter shaft gear which makes it harder to remove, but ive heard its still possible with a little “wiggle wiggle”. Can you confirm if I can remove the input shaft on the TR6060 without a complete teardown and just remove it from the front?
Sorry man, I've never worked on a TR6060 so I'm afraid I can't help.
I may have missed it, but why are you doing this rebuild? Did you experience some noise or poor shift quality? I know in part 2 you mentioned a bad fit with the 5&6 gear on the shaft, but don't say that was the reason you performed the rebuild.
It was having trouble engaging in certain shifts. I expected to find the synchros trashed, but as you can see, they weren't. I ended up needing to replace the clutch master cylinder - that was the root cause of everything. Of course, had I replaced that first, then I wouldn't have made these videos!
I know the video is older but I'm curious, which puller is that? I found the otc 1040 to be the largest so far but wasn't for sure which one you used.
Just a unit from Harbor Freight.. part of a kit, I think.
Thanks for the info! I'm in the process of tearing mine down and the last gear on the main shaft before pulling the casing is where I'm stuck at. I see yours pulled right off without a puller. Im going to check their website and see if they have it available
you've got some real forearm muscles there buddy
Haha, all the wrenches I turn!
@@SlideruleRacingProducts Nice man. I enjoyed the video. Well done.
Is the 1 thing u have to do before u can take the rear section off popping that pin out of the shift rail??
How closely related is the TR6060 to this transmission? I know the 6060 is a beefed up version, but is the assembly/disassebmly the same?
I believe they are very similar, but I've never seen the inside of a 6060.
56 sec mark; The breather tube. Any chance you know were I can purchase the breather cap? In the process of swapping to an LS7 Clutch and was looking to see if there was anything worth rebuilding while I had it out, but will probably just stick to replacing the missing cap Ha.
The Car does make some grumbly swirly noise at Idle with the clutch out; Not sure if that will be resolved by the new LS7 slave, or if the noise is coming from worn components in the trans.
Thanks
05-V
Sorry - no idea. Good luck!
AAIIIC from cadillacforums - I've had your rebuild thread on standby ever since you posted it up and then did these videos. Just getting started with a used CTS-V T56 that I picked up to rebuild.
I knocked off the nut on the output shaft with an impact. I noticed you used a 3-jaw puller to get the output flange off, and it looks like it took some work. On mine, that output flange slipped right off by hand. Is that a bad sign? Should it be a press fit onto the splines, thus requiring a puller of some sort?
Hey AAIIC. Hopefully by now you've figured this out - sorry I took so long to respond. In any case, if it wobbles on the output shaft I would probably be worried, but otherwise you're probably OK. I honestly wasn't expecting mine to put up such a fight, but it seemed comical to me when I did the editing so I left it in there.
@5:23 my gear is not simply sliding off. I don’t have or think they make a 16” long gear puller either... any ideas?
www.freedomracing.com/gear-remover-9379-9379a.html?___store=default&gclid=Cj0KCQiAn8nuBRCzARIsAJcdIfP25alZkxDm_UXoiwSsWJxg6-0mEKomgJhW_F0VPioKuAhaR13Ovy0aAl05EALw_wcB
Watched all the videos, great job and thank you
Thank you - my pleasure!
nice table chris!
Thanks for taking the time to record this!
Builds table specifically for trans rebuild in clean garage, uses claw hammer and nail to drive pins out.
Tapping with a hammer isn't really 'driving' in my book. Let's see your video!
Because it was entirely unnecessary - obviously, considering that the result of the video was a properly functioning rebuilt transmission.
@@SlideruleRacingProducts Obviously. The correct tools are unnecessary so long as the outcome is as desired.
@@idriwzrd if the outcome was exactly as desired , then by definition these were the correct tools.
would a viper t56 work in my 97 z28?
I need those snap ring pliers. Would you post a link to them please?
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IEWBUSC
@@SlideruleRacingProducts thank you
Where did you get the rebuild kit from? link please.
Hawks (used to be Hawks Third Gen). www.hawksmotorsports.com/t56-parts-rebuilds/2004-2007-cts-v/rebuild-kit-parts-only-1/
Can someone time stamp when he takes off the 3rd gear synchro
I did not know that Tremec T-56 was made by Borg-Warner. Is it true? I had a Borg-Warner factory 5 speed in a 1976 Pontiac Ventura that I factory ordered. I kept it for 19 years and it was great. No issues ever, but I knew guys that destroyed them fast. Helps if you know how to drive I guess.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg-Warner_T-56_transmission
What brand is your bearing puller?
Thanks.
All of my pullers are from Harbor Freight. I have the cheapo 3 jaw set, the bearing puller kit and the 12 ton hydraulic.
@@SlideruleRacingProducts I know we would click, i say the eXACT same thing, I also have a LOT of cheap harbor freight stuff, most of it is better than you'd think!
Even that super long one was a harbor freight 3 jaw puller?
where did you get your tools from i cannot find split ring pliers anywhere also your 3 jaw puller what size is it?
Search for "Wilde Tool G409P" on Amazon. That's where I got mine. The large hydraulic 3 jaw puller as well as the smaller manual 3 jaws all came from Harbor Freight.
Where can I find the long reach puller used?
All of the pullers came from Harbor Freight.
Let me take a shot in the dark here, the infamous extreme vibration in the Vehicle from around 70-85mph? Getting ready to pull the T56 out of my 1997 Comp Trans Am. Only 52K miles on the car, motor and trans. But ill bet my 5/6 slides off just as easily lol
You've done this a time or two, huh?
This video was my first and only time rebuilding a car manual trans. In pretty much all my videos, I'm learning as I go. Sometimes I edit out some of my trial and error, but most of the time I leave it in. For this rebuild, I read A LOT online and in the factory manuals before I started. I also had a lot of experience tearing apart motorcycle transmissions, so the basic functionality wasn't foreign to me.
Just perfect, thanks.
what business in texas specializes shaft re-work machining.
Lets.hope this saves my 2000 trans am firehawk from a $3k rebuild on the transmission
Good luck!
Hey quick question what does 3rd gear mesh into thinking mines busted and wanna buy what ever it meshes into bedore rebuilding already got a new 3rd gear but cant find what it meshes into
@@Hawk-gu8kj 'Mesh with' is far too general to give you advice. I suggest you disassemble and figure out what's wrong before ordering any parts. Could be as simple as synchros or something much worse.
This isn’t a T56, it’s a tr6060
It's most certainly a T56 out of a 2004 CTS-V.
mirsi boko
@7:18, what did you do to get the bearing off? Thank you.
At 7:18 I believe I was just removing a clip with a pick or a small flathead screwdriver.