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Truly, the end of an era here. These videos have always been amazing and one of my favorite series on TH-cam! This one was especially amazing, Forgotten Land really gave us so much lore content. Thanks, Meteorz!
Imagine your mind being so powerful that after you die you take the body of someone and scatter pieces of their soul around a separate dimension of dreams and memories you created, replacing their life force with your own. This thing is so damn broken (I say as if making broken villains is anything new for Kirby).
Plus creating interdimensional gate ways whilst in a weaken state, and surviving Morpho Knight's absorption, yeah congrats Fecto, your official one of Kirby's most powerful enemies, let's see how long that lasts XD
I know you stated that you don’t enjoy bringing real life science into video game lore… but I’d like to mention something that explains a bit of Void and its relationship with all the other bosses In one of the four Kirbillion pause screen texts for Void, it describes Void as an entity of chaos most people think of chaos as destruction and explosions and fire and stuff *however* there is another more scientific definition for chaos, related to entropy. Chaos scientifically is disorganization, for example, if your room is organized and divided by sections like clothes, items, furniture and stuff, it is organized and not chaotic. However as your room becomes more disorganized, the objects start to spread about and no long can be distinguished into groups, the clothes cover furniture there is trash scattered about and whatnot. An example of something purely chaotic in science would be something that is a mix of *everything* into one completely thorough soup, like there is no distinct parts. This connects a lot of things to Void, who is an embodiment of chaos, so if Void is chaos, and chaos is a mix of everything into a thorough soup, this explains how Void is connected to all bosses, because it is made of all the materials that every boss is, Void is even described as the origin of everything. So since Chaos Elfilis is also made of chaos, it would make sense that it shares similar attacks to other bosses, because it is also made of the same stuff that other bosses are
i fuckin love seeing the kirby lore develop, like holy shit we used to be at nightmare and dedede and now we're at death incarnate butterfly that has followed us throughout the series, origin of ancients, kirby and dark matters origin point of existence and mostly every other beings soul form, and cool little flying squirrel guy that can open interdimensional portals
Reminds me of the myth from one of our civilization where one of the primordial god whose name escape me defeat Tiamat the incarnation of chaos and then use her body to built and create the world, bringing order to chaos.
More frequently in engineering classes, I've also heard chaos/entropy referred to as the act of universal balance. While a little grim sometimes, looking at aspects of Zero and its behavior this way is pretty interesting. Some other youtubers have done some cool stuff with it, too!
In greek mythology, the Chaos is even stated as the primordial void, which caused the creation of the universe, everything. Being the source of everything. 1. Remember how Void is also stated in rough translated decriptions as "origin of all", "progenitor of origination" (meaning the origin/source in and as definition itself), etc. 2. Void Soul, being stated as the "Essence of Chaos". I mean, it could hint to the collected emotions and its decision to what it should become too, but it cannot be a coincidence, that they especially used chaos for a being called Void out of any title or being they could've chose. They could have used "Essence of Evil, Malice, Insanity, whatever", but chose Chaos for Void. (Remember, that essence means something like the core or/and being of something). (Similarity to the greek mythology). 3. If you look up the greek mythology symbol/art of Chaos, it resembles a one eyed being with arms, legs and a big sun behind it. If you remove the arms and legs and remember, that the sun is a star, than look at Void's Dark Matter form. It looks like a star with 1 eye. (It's orbs becoming a spine). Even in it's true Astral Birth incarnation, it starts to glow bright like a star. Perhaps there are more details, but there are for sure multiple hints, that Kumazaki was inspired by the greek mythology of chaos.
Another thing to add: if the Ancients (likely humans) only escaped the Forgotten Land *after* obtaining Elfilis' powers, and from there colonized Popstar and its surrounding planets, that could disprove the long-running theory of Shiver Star being Earth.
My headcanon is that the new world resides in a different dimension. A separate multiverse, more specifically. Shiver Star could be the Kirby multiverse’s version of the new world.
5:52 I guess you could say Forgo went out of their mind after Morpho Knight's defeat End here we are! We're at the end of an era, now that Meteorz has said this'll be the last Kirby Canon I love how reliable these videos are, and I'm genuinely going to miss this content terribly, considering I've been watching since Robobot's release, a whopping 6 years ago... This final Kirby Canon video was pretty well-done, and I wish the best for your future!
It truly is an end of an era. But who knows, maybe meteorz will go back to making content even if it is in a few years or so but if not, we will still wish the best for him
Any connections to Void most likely came about after the Ancients encountered practitioners of magic as they were very big on technology that is now revealed to be partially based on Fecto Elfilis's abilities. The Nova might be built with both knowledge bases as Fecto Elfilis seems to be another entity that doesn't have an immediate connection to Void until it met Kirby.
I'm going to miss having this series as a resource for future Kirby games. It has always seemed the most accurate and thorough when describing the lore. Nevertheless, a great video to end off on!
@@kurobones2092 Meteorz made a video earlier this year explaining that this will be his last year of making videos because he wants to spend more time taking care of his new child. The existing videos will stay up (no reason to remove them), but this is the last Kirby Canon episode from him.
@@kurobones2092 Well there is RPG Monger I suppose. He did a 30 minute video that explained the lore up until Star Allies mostly pretty well, and his video on Forgotten Land was also pretty good and even featured some info from the original Japanese version like here. Even when he gave theories, he admitted that they were theories instead of presenting them as fact.
There's a small working theory that Elfilis is as to Dream Matter (mentioned in the European(? I believe?) Void pause screen) as Zero is to Dark Matter. Both Elfilis and Zero have a distinct mission driven by nothing but destruction Both Elfilis and Zero appear to be driven by negative energy Both Elfilis and Zero have had a piece of themselves split away due to said piece being too pure (Elfilin, Gooey) It's fun to chew on. Especially since this could mean that the Zero we all know and love could be... "incomplete." Just like Forgo.
Pero tengo algo que podría desmentir esa teoría. En 2018 salió a la venta Kirby Star Allies, juego que en ese entonces era el último de la saga. Todos los jefes finales anteriores a Vacío Final (incluyendo a Zero),estaban relacionados con este mismo de alguna forma, ya sea influenciados por su energía, siendo reencarnaciones suyas o usando su poder para cumplir sus metas. Y ahora tenemos a Fecto Elfilis, una criatura que por si sola cuenta con un poder titánico y que más allá del ataque con lanza, no tiene ninguna relación con Vacío Final en su forma básica.
Hooray, a new Kirby canon video, and perhaps the very last one! Cheers to all the years of geeking-out over Kirby lore friends💖 PeaS: It's a bit of a stretch for some people, but I genuinely do believe that Fecto Elfilis is a reincarnation of Void. Kirby games often rhyme, and such is the case with this game as well. Elfilis was a once partially *innocent* creature that *devoured* everything in sight, having the power to *conquer worlds* and master of *dreams* If that doesn't spell Void to me, I don't know what does. And what's the deal with the *spear?* We may never get an answer, but it is quite strange how the only other warrior final boss in the series with a spear is Aeon Hero...
With everything we know about elfilis, I also think it's possible that he is a reincarnation of void. This part is personal headcanon but this is how I think void works: Two types of emotional energy (positive and negative) and 4 matters (darkness, dreams, heart and soul), the beings that are born directly from void are made of one of the Matters and the experiences they live shape the type of energy, but if they suddenly experience both types of energy, their bodies become unstable and fall into chaos. Zero is the clearest to explain, negative energy dark matter. Kirby if he really is a reincarnation of void I think it would be positive energy dark matter (kirby and dark matter share so many similarities to be a coincidence). Void Termina (Not astral void) was negative energy darkness matter but because of kirby and his positive energy he fall into chaos. Elfilis is dream matter and negative energy and by consuming morpho he entered in a state of chaos. And Morpho, although I don't have anything as argued, I wouldn't be surprised if it was soul matter.
Hard to believe that this is the end already. I’ve been watching this series for at least a few years now and I’m gonna miss it dearly. I hope you take care out there!
I thought time flowed faster in the forgotten land, I think that idea was put forth by RPG monger. It may or may not be another explanation for the time gap between DeDeDe's and Kirby's arrival.
One time, I remember making a joke that with how disturbing Kirby final bosses are, William Birkin’s final form would one day be the final boss of a Kirby game. …So when I got to Fecto Forgo, you can imagine that I had never been more horrified that I was right.
The final one of these. I *actually* was here since the announcement of this series back before Robobot came out. I’m happy you made the Kirby Lore more well known.
I've been looking forward to this video since The Forgotten Land released, but now it's sort of bittersweet. It's sad it's the last Kirby Cannon video, but I suppose all good things must come to an end, and it's been one heck of a ride so far. Thank you for all of these years of great content. Enjoy your life with your son!
There's one aspect of Fecto Elfilis that you may have missed: the spears it uses, both mental and physical. It LOVES using those spears. What was used to seal Void Termina inside the Jamba Heart? Four weapons called "spears of the heart". How did the Ancients make them? By copying and possibly improving on the spears Fecto Elfilis used!
While it may stem from this small translation mishap, the Kirby series often uses 'Star' as a pseudo-suffix to denote a name as being that of a planet. It would make sense for the Forgotten Land's planet to follow that naming convention.
I know this series is over, but there's one thing I've observed regarding Fecto Elfilis's design: it bears markings similar to Sphere Doomers, which are also beings capable of interdimensional travel. Both beings even sport wings! The pause description for the fight against 2 EX Doomers in RTDLDX state that they took on a different form a long time ago. Taking all of these facts into consideration, is it possible the Doomers were once the same species as Fecto?
Infinite claps, this is very well done. This series is one of the things which got we interested and become a fan of Kirby. But as the curtains close and the shows end, others may take the stage and shine as bright as the stars before them
Considering this game exposes the possibility of who the ancients once were, that being humans, It raises the question: What does that mean for Adeline? The only thing that's really known about her is that she's an artist and she's the only known human in the Kirby universe. There's still a lot of questions about her backstory that could answer some more things in Kirby lore. I hope it gets explored sometime soon.
I really appreciated this series, man. Thank you. Fecto was a very interesting boss. Little by little we're getting to know more and more about the Ancients and what the heck did they do-- or why. Wherever they're from or what they actually are, I hope we eventually get to know one of them. Besides... Hyness, I guess.
Thanks for all your amazing videos! Many loved them and congrats on 50,000 subscribers! (Just watch HAL release the craziest plot for a Kirby game after this.)
Damn, I'm gonna miss these. You're a big reason why I fell in love with Kirby lore in the first place. I loved Kirby games and their final bosses like crazy, but when I realized there was a bigger picture going on, it was just MIND BLOWING!!! As much as I'd love for you to keep making these for new kirby games in the future, you have more important things in life to worry about. Good Luck with everything!
The reason why the Japanese version refers a planet to a star is because in Japanese, the word “Star” can also mean “planet,” (星/hoshi) even though there is a word that means planet specifically (惑星/wakusei). Take that information if you will.
Just my thought, that Fecto Elfilis is one of the four heroes of yore, alongside with Galacta knight and Morpho Knight, also forms a contrast with Kirby(Morpho), Meta Knight(Galacta), Bandana Dee(Fecto Elfilis), if the next game could show us more hints about them, or a boss have hammer-like thing as weapon... (´･ω･|
I wonder what all those hamster wheels containing the Waddle Dees were for. It Fecto could've escaped at any time, it couldn't have been to power the life support, right?
Tal vez sea para que el observatorio recupere su energía. Pues verás, mi teoría es que la Jauría encontrara el observatorio, y a Fecto Forgo, pero ellos no sabían de sus poderes psíquicos. Fecto necesitaba la energía del observatorio para que recuperara sus fuerzas (ya que en su estado de larva solo puede controlar mentes) y también necesita recuperar a Elfilin para volver a estar completo, pero parece ser que los miembros de la Jauría no eran suficientes para cumplir ambas tareas. De ahí ocurren los sucesos del juego: con lo poco que le queda de energía, Fecto abre un portal hacia el Planeta Pop para traer a la tierra olvidada los Waddle Dee, ya que son muchos, así que ellos pueden regresarle la energía al observatorio mientras que la Jauría se concentra en capturar a Elfilin.
I remember following this series a couple of years back when I was looking up kirby lore videos. I was really getting into the lore and these videos gave me my fill. Even though this is maybe the last one, I'm glad to have stuck around till the end!
The time difference between worlds is clear, when elfilis close the portal at the end, and after a few seconds he appeared back at planet popstar, when u go back to waddledee town he tells you that after closing the portal he was unconscious and clawroline took care of him for a while but for kiby they were a couple of seconds
Forgotten land was the real lore builder for the series. It's a bit of a stretch, but the portal that shows up in return to dreamland match the shape that sucked up the waddle dees and kirby. Maybe a connection? Still, it's crazy to see how much you just proved that this really is, the ultimate lifeform
Another way to explain the time difference is time flowing at different speeds on popstar and the forgotten lands. if that is true, then at the end of the adventure they might pop back home and find only minutes have passed at all.
6:00to 6:06 This means that all the animals that got consumed by forgo, including Morpho Knight, has been consumed forever, meaning no more morpho knight bosses or themes
I find it pretty interesting that they are re-releasing Kirby Return to Dreamland not too long after Forgotten Land. Maybe this time we get some more backstory about the lor star cutter, Magalor and everything else.....should be fun.
This is a world we live in, when sometimes it’s too hard to say goodbye to those very close to us, and this is a major example of that. Meteorz, thanks so much for all this Kirby lore over the years, and we’re sure gonna miss you after 2022. Goodbye and good luck
Another similarity between the vortex and black holes, there’s a concept known as Spahgettification, and in the cutscene, we see it stretching Kirby’s body, which is what gives him the mouthful mode ability
10:10 It could also simply be a difference between the worlds - time may pass faster in the universe of the Forgotten Land than it does in Popstar's universe. This seems to be supported by Elfilin's dialogue about him closing the portal - _after_ closing it, he was weakened and had to be nursed back to health, suggesting that it took a while for him to get better after the portal was closed. For Kirby and the players, it took a few seconds, but for Elfilin and the Forgotten Land, it could have been days, weeks, or months. Black Holes don't really "suck" things either, unless you want to say that a star does as well. They simply have a lot of gravity, like a star.
Meteor, as someone who's been watching since you first tackled Galacta Knight, I just want to say thank you for creating what is in my opinion the best series on TH-cam. Learning about the depth behind this universe and all the characters inhabiting it made it easier to appreciate the Kirby series for how great the games really are, and because of that I have you to credit for almost half of my knowledge of the games' lore and for the countless valuable memories I made playing new Kirby games because of the interest in them you sparked within me. It's been a long journey, and I'm glad you were able to be there with us through the thick and thin! Best of luck with raising your child, and here's hoping RTDL Deluxe turns out amazing!
Here’s my headcannon I believe that the people of the forgotten land are indeed the ancients and when they left their planet they most likely went to the Dreamscape from Kirby clash where they further advanced their technology and spread their influence throughout the cosmos. This can be seen by the several dream fountains found throughout Milky Way wishes. At some point through their travels they discovered the mystery’s of void , and they may have even incorporated some of voids power or influence into their technology as shown through the master crown. However some individuals began to study it further while others feared it and chose not to mess with powers they couldn’t fully understand. This disagreement is what divided the ancients between the scientific and magical ones. One side chose to stick with the already amazing powers they had and could explain through science, technology and reason through their studies of Fecto Elfilis and his “spacial teleportation abilities”, while the other side chose to delve into the dark depths of magic and unknown as they witnessed void in its “shining form” and the sheer destruction but also possibilities it can create. Despite these disagreements they were able to coexist and together lived in a time of great prosperity. At some point though after witnessing what the true power of void and the magical ancients held the scientific ancients chose to banish them away in fear of their power and y’all know the rest. With friendship and unity being one of the key themes in the series I think it was this divide and ultimate betrayal that led to the downfall of the ancients themselves and if they would’ve just accepted their differences and worked together things would have been different.
Kirby games have a habit of taking previous story and remastering it as a new one. Seeing the line of positive/negative bosses, the Taranza/Susie/Clawroline connection, the primary antagonist being driven mad by something higher... this clearly hasn't changed, but Forgotten Land's been one of the best! More of the story was given clearly this time, but I will always appreciate one of these. At least one concept always ends up clearer, like a plausible way for Dedede and Meta Knight to have had time to explore before Kirby arrived (I had just assumed multiple portals), or making Fecto's journey feel much more hardcore by arranging translations with the other data, and/or a comparison with the traits of other ball bosses that almost adds a minor theme to the whole series (just some of the emotional generation stuff). P.S.: For a long time, some (ancient Greeks?) believed Lions specifically mated with Leopards. This may have been a myth, but what are myths if not decent inspiration for stories? Do you/anyone here think Elfilin should have gotten more? Maybe at least a filled ear by the end? Love that description! Wait... the opening captions called you... Meteor. All this time, and Meteorz wasn't your direct name!? Speaking of slight differences, isn't Fecto's pod the "Eterna" Capsule? I tried my best to withdraw from the Kirby-internet before Forgotten Land came out to avoid spoilers, and that's mostly been the case since as well (sadly didn't really work out anyways). Before that, I avoided the K64 series in hopes of playing it soon semi-blind. It'll be hard to forget pieces of videos like all about 02 and what happened with Shiver Star, but Dream Collection did finally arrive last week, so it feels worth it. I doubt you'll really see this or remember, but both of those reasons are why I tried to say thanks for the series so much on that one KLR stream several months back - figured it was the last chance in a long while. This is still the first of these videos I've seen since, but I'm assuming your plans have remained the same? For reasons a little difficult to explain, it's genuinely hard to look at this game for long, but even if you're ending here, I'm excited to watch the rest of what you've made since the game released! This channel has been like a gift these past few years, and no matter what you do, I want to wish you the best of luck. :)
9:35 The thing is- it’s most likely that time isn’t absolute between dimensions and that it flows faster in the Forgotten Land Dimension than Pop star’s home dimension. Kirby was one of the last few beings to get sucked in the portal, so he most likely MISSED OUT on the town being built and destroyed. For Kirby, Elfilin came back a few seconds after he left, but for Elfilin, it may have been a few days while Carol was getting him back to health. In fact, the whole of Forgotten Land may have been a few months in the Forgotten Land Dimension, but only a few hours back on Popstar. That was according to the RPG Monger. I also have a personal theory- that Fecto Elfilis was a result of Astral Birth Void getting Dream Energy. How could that be? Well, According to Void’s phase 2 description (in Japan), It implies that Void is made up of 4 primal, abstract forces or energies- Dream, Dark, Soul, and Heart? Here’s my take on this- Dream- the dreams and desires of living things Soul- the energy that makes things live Heart- stable, positive energy and emotions Dark- unstable, negative energy and emotions. Now, for Fecto Elfilis, his powers of SpaceTime manipulation may be derived from Void, allowing the ancients to use and replicate that power in order to create their stuff. As Fecto Forgo, their powers of Dream energy and Psychic energy allowed him to brainwash the animals of the forgotten land (causing Leon to become King Leongar of the Beast Pack), and as Soul Forgo, create Phantom-like Illusions of all the beings it brainwashed based on memories alone (they have the shapes of the originals, but the eyes of Fecto Forgo’s chimera form and the colors of Fecto Forgo, Fecto Elfilis, and Elfilin, but I digress), all of that inside a Dream realm of its own making, Forgo Dreams, the Isolated Isles. and once Soul Forgo broke free and absorbed the power of Morpho the butterfly, all the powers of Dream, Dark, Soul, and Heart, combined to turn Fecto Elfilis into Chaos Elfilis. As Chaos Elfilis, they are much stronger in their attacks, and they also have copied Morpho’s ability to teleport, create sword beams, and summon tornados. Similar to Void absorbing the Mages’s Powers of Fire, Ice, and Lightning, along with their weapons (sword, spear, and axe), just like Kirby and his copy abilities. In their second phase, they summon a giant shadow version of themselves (mostly their upper half), also through memories alone. (Even if it resembles Taranza’s Sectonia move more) And in the final phase, Soul of Chaos Elfilis even looks like Void, and as someone pointed out (don’t remember who), they glitch out when hit, just like Nightmare’s Power Orb. In the last phase, they mimic the classic Giant Fireball, Paint Splatter, Black Hole, Multi-Cutter, and the Bounce attacks, which are iconic with Kirby Soul Bosses. In conclusion, with all of those details, I am certain that Fecto Elfilis is the result of Void getting Dream energy (or as some people say, Fecto Elfilis is “Dream Matter”). So what do you think about Meteorz? Up for one last Canon or Cannot?
you ever think about how we never see the waddle dees running on all those wheels get saved and are also never added to the waddle dee counter for the town
Why did it take hearing you talk about Forgo’s dreams and memories and such making up an entire reality and guaranteeing its survival to make me realize that this thing is the closest the _Kirby_ series has gotten to a true Lovecraftian Elder God. Like, even more so than Void. And here I was being relieved that this game (apart from Morpho Knight) was largely removed from the lore for Popstar’s and Halcandra’s dimensions, but then here comes Meteor theorizing me to be wrong… (Also real science is great and I love when it’s integrated into otherwise fantastical settings you shut your face, boy)
The black hole thing isn't entirely like that. Time starts acting space-like and space starts acting time-like. Pbs science TH-cam channel has a video on it. Watch if you want.
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So Forgo was a attraction?
With that, I like to imagine at some point, the Lab was selling "I survived the Ultimate Life Form" t-shirts.
PFfft and also those little pins and bags
They'd totally do that
Sounds like something Aperture Science would do doesn’t it?
@@austinmorrison6953 Yep
fnaf 3 but elfilis
“Who needs Elfilin when you have the power of judgement in your hands?” I love this quote so much.
Truly, the end of an era here. These videos have always been amazing and one of my favorite series on TH-cam! This one was especially amazing, Forgotten Land really gave us so much lore content. Thanks, Meteorz!
Next game in...
Probably sooner or longer than you think time is bs.
I’m gonna miss these, coming to an end after all these years
Same
yeah... about that...
I liked these videos too
I love Kirby lore
I like kirby
The comparison to dark matter actually makes a lot of sense.
Negativity in Kirby is unstable, but positivity remains stable.
because good beats bad
That also makes sense IRL
Makes you wonder if the inverse is hunting Kirby down to become whole again.
Imagine your mind being so powerful that after you die you take the body of someone and scatter pieces of their soul around a separate dimension of dreams and memories you created, replacing their life force with your own. This thing is so damn broken (I say as if making broken villains is anything new for Kirby).
MFer basically ate the grim reaper when it tried to reap him
Plus creating interdimensional gate ways whilst in a weaken state, and surviving Morpho Knight's absorption, yeah congrats Fecto, your official one of Kirby's most powerful enemies, let's see how long that lasts XD
@@kingkurok3149we dont know the upper limits to what elfilis can pull through his portals. A planet, but what else maybe multiple planets? a star?
i played this with my nephew and he called elfilin rufus the whole time so when he got absorbed by fecto he was like “NO!!! RUFUS!!!” lol
Wow, Efilins a better name, Rufus is disgusting
XDDDD
@@ElfilinSupporter Elfilin
Fecto Rufus
Time dilation between dimensions. That’s why it only took seconds for elfilin to come back.
I know you stated that you don’t enjoy bringing real life science into video game lore… but I’d like to mention something that explains a bit of Void and its relationship with all the other bosses
In one of the four Kirbillion pause screen texts for Void, it describes Void as an entity of chaos
most people think of chaos as destruction and explosions and fire and stuff
*however* there is another more scientific definition for chaos, related to entropy. Chaos scientifically is disorganization, for example, if your room is organized and divided by sections like clothes, items, furniture and stuff, it is organized and not chaotic. However as your room becomes more disorganized, the objects start to spread about and no long can be distinguished into groups, the clothes cover furniture there is trash scattered about and whatnot. An example of something purely chaotic in science would be something that is a mix of *everything* into one completely thorough soup, like there is no distinct parts.
This connects a lot of things to Void, who is an embodiment of chaos, so if Void is chaos, and chaos is a mix of everything into a thorough soup, this explains how Void is connected to all bosses, because it is made of all the materials that every boss is, Void is even described as the origin of everything.
So since Chaos Elfilis is also made of chaos, it would make sense that it shares similar attacks to other bosses, because it is also made of the same stuff that other bosses are
i fuckin love seeing the kirby lore develop, like holy shit we used to be at nightmare and dedede and now we're at death incarnate butterfly that has followed us throughout the series, origin of ancients, kirby and dark matters origin point of existence and mostly every other beings soul form, and cool little flying squirrel guy that can open interdimensional portals
This is so interesting! And ngl it helped me to understand the scientific concept of chaos much better
Reminds me of the myth from one of our civilization where one of the primordial god whose name escape me defeat Tiamat the incarnation of chaos
and then use her body to built and create the world, bringing order to chaos.
More frequently in engineering classes, I've also heard chaos/entropy referred to as the act of universal balance. While a little grim sometimes, looking at aspects of Zero and its behavior this way is pretty interesting. Some other youtubers have done some cool stuff with it, too!
In greek mythology, the Chaos is even stated as the primordial void, which caused the creation of the universe, everything.
Being the source of everything.
1. Remember how Void is also stated in rough translated decriptions as "origin of all", "progenitor of origination" (meaning the origin/source in and as definition itself), etc.
2. Void Soul, being stated as the "Essence of Chaos". I mean, it could hint to the collected emotions and its decision to what it should become too, but it cannot be a coincidence, that they especially used chaos for a being called Void out of any title or being they could've chose. They could have used "Essence of Evil, Malice, Insanity, whatever", but chose Chaos for Void.
(Remember, that essence means something like the core or/and being of something).
(Similarity to the greek mythology).
3. If you look up the greek mythology symbol/art of Chaos, it resembles a one eyed being with arms, legs and a big sun behind it.
If you remove the arms and legs and remember, that the sun is a star, than look at Void's Dark Matter form.
It looks like a star with 1 eye. (It's orbs becoming a spine). Even in it's true Astral Birth incarnation, it starts to glow bright like a star.
Perhaps there are more details, but there are for sure multiple hints, that Kumazaki was inspired by the greek mythology of chaos.
This series will be dearly missed.
Another thing to add: if the Ancients (likely humans) only escaped the Forgotten Land *after* obtaining Elfilis' powers, and from there colonized Popstar and its surrounding planets, that could disprove the long-running theory of Shiver Star being Earth.
Earth 2
@@TechBlade9000 if Earth's so great why isn't there Earth 2?
Shiver Star:
My headcanon is that the new world resides in a different dimension. A separate multiverse, more specifically. Shiver Star could be the Kirby multiverse’s version of the new world.
Shiver could have been the really early earth based on how old the stuff is and technology there is on it
I was glad that Elfilin himself didn't turn out to be evil this time though. XD
5:52 I guess you could say Forgo went out of their mind after Morpho Knight's defeat
End here we are! We're at the end of an era, now that Meteorz has said this'll be the last Kirby Canon
I love how reliable these videos are, and I'm genuinely going to miss this content terribly, considering I've been watching since Robobot's release, a whopping 6 years ago... This final Kirby Canon video was pretty well-done, and I wish the best for your future!
It truly is an end of an era. But who knows, maybe meteorz will go back to making content even if it is in a few years or so but if not, we will still wish the best for him
OmG!! ItS tHe UnDeRtAlE gUy!!1!11!
Any connections to Void most likely came about after the Ancients encountered practitioners of magic as they were very big on technology that is now revealed to be partially based on Fecto Elfilis's abilities. The Nova might be built with both knowledge bases as Fecto Elfilis seems to be another entity that doesn't have an immediate connection to Void until it met Kirby.
Tal vez Elfilis fue corrompido por por Vacío Final antes de sellarlo.
Don't be sad that it's over, be happy that it was a great ride...
I'm going to miss having this series as a resource for future Kirby games. It has always seemed the most accurate and thorough when describing the lore. Nevertheless, a great video to end off on!
Why is it the last video for kirby lore?
@@kurobones2092 Meteorz made a video earlier this year explaining that this will be his last year of making videos because he wants to spend more time taking care of his new child. The existing videos will stay up (no reason to remove them), but this is the last Kirby Canon episode from him.
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Ohhh I see. That sucks but understandable :) wish him the best then. Where will I get my kirby lore updates now? 😭
@@kurobones2092 Well there is RPG Monger I suppose. He did a 30 minute video that explained the lore up until Star Allies mostly pretty well, and his video on Forgotten Land was also pretty good and even featured some info from the original Japanese version like here. Even when he gave theories, he admitted that they were theories instead of presenting them as fact.
There's a small working theory that Elfilis is as to Dream Matter (mentioned in the European(? I believe?) Void pause screen) as Zero is to Dark Matter.
Both Elfilis and Zero have a distinct mission driven by nothing but destruction
Both Elfilis and Zero appear to be driven by negative energy
Both Elfilis and Zero have had a piece of themselves split away due to said piece being too pure (Elfilin, Gooey)
It's fun to chew on. Especially since this could mean that the Zero we all know and love could be... "incomplete." Just like Forgo.
Pero tengo algo que podría desmentir esa teoría.
En 2018 salió a la venta Kirby Star Allies, juego que en ese entonces era el último de la saga. Todos los jefes finales anteriores a Vacío Final (incluyendo a Zero),estaban relacionados con este mismo de alguna forma, ya sea influenciados por su energía, siendo reencarnaciones suyas o usando su poder para cumplir sus metas. Y ahora tenemos a Fecto Elfilis, una criatura que por si sola cuenta con un poder titánico y que más allá del ataque con lanza, no tiene ninguna relación con Vacío Final en su forma básica.
Hooray, a new Kirby canon video, and perhaps the very last one!
Cheers to all the years of geeking-out over Kirby lore friends💖
PeaS: It's a bit of a stretch for some people, but I genuinely do believe that Fecto Elfilis is a reincarnation of Void. Kirby games often rhyme, and such is the case with this game as well. Elfilis was a once partially *innocent* creature that *devoured* everything in sight, having the power to *conquer worlds* and master of *dreams*
If that doesn't spell Void to me, I don't know what does. And what's the deal with the *spear?* We may never get an answer, but it is quite strange how the only other warrior final boss in the series with a spear is Aeon Hero...
I'm fairly certain Galacta Knights "spear" is a lance.
But they take place in alternate dimensions. Maybe he’s the replacement?
@@shinyeeveelution789 I think he means the heart spear attack.
@@The_Shimp mabey
With everything we know about elfilis, I also think it's possible that he is a reincarnation of void.
This part is personal headcanon but this is how I think void works: Two types of emotional energy (positive and negative) and 4 matters (darkness, dreams, heart and soul), the beings that are born directly from void are made of one of the Matters and the experiences they live shape the type of energy, but if they suddenly experience both types of energy, their bodies become unstable and fall into chaos.
Zero is the clearest to explain, negative energy dark matter.
Kirby if he really is a reincarnation of void I think it would be positive energy dark matter (kirby and dark matter share so many similarities to be a coincidence).
Void Termina (Not astral void) was negative energy darkness matter but because of kirby and his positive energy he fall into chaos.
Elfilis is dream matter and negative energy and by consuming morpho he entered in a state of chaos.
And Morpho, although I don't have anything as argued, I wouldn't be surprised if it was soul matter.
Hard to believe that this is the end already. I’ve been watching this series for at least a few years now and I’m gonna miss it dearly. I hope you take care out there!
He might come back for Kirby's Dream Buffet. That would be a fun video.
I thought time flowed faster in the forgotten land, I think that idea was put forth by RPG monger. It may or may not be another explanation for the time gap between DeDeDe's and Kirby's arrival.
Kinda bittersweet this is the final episode of Kirby Canon
It was a great one to end off the series with
If this is the longest, and possibly the last Kirby Canon video!
This marks the end of an age, and marks the start of another...
One time, I remember making a joke that with how disturbing Kirby final bosses are, William Birkin’s final form would one day be the final boss of a Kirby game.
…So when I got to Fecto Forgo, you can imagine that I had never been more horrified that I was right.
The final one of these. I *actually* was here since the announcement of this series back before Robobot came out. I’m happy you made the Kirby Lore more well known.
What an OG!
@@ToxicPea og since probably 2012 I don’t remember fully
@@Magic_Ice woah. Now that's OG!
*AND HERE WE ARE!~* Welcome to the *FINAL* Episode of "What IS Kirby Canon."
...and here we are! What might plausibly be the last video of "What is Kirby Canon?". This was an amazing ride. Thanks Meteorz, for everything!
7:21
English speakers: Who is Danius?
Hispanohablantes: NOOOOO
The final Kirby canon. It’s really bittersweet to see this series end after so long.
Godspeed, Meteor. Thanks for everything you've done!
still remembering the first kirby canon videos, it makes me sad as I forgot this was supposed to be the end :(
thanks for the great content!
Considering the fact Facto 🥁 got absorbed by the Morpho Knight Butterfly might prove that Facto Ellifis is a strong as Galacta Knight!
I've been looking forward to this video since The Forgotten Land released, but now it's sort of bittersweet. It's sad it's the last Kirby Cannon video, but I suppose all good things must come to an end, and it's been one heck of a ride so far. Thank you for all of these years of great content. Enjoy your life with your son!
Yep
I will definitely miss this series, it's been a blast sticking around. Thank you so much for all these amazing videos! (:
There's one aspect of Fecto Elfilis that you may have missed: the spears it uses, both mental and physical. It LOVES using those spears.
What was used to seal Void Termina inside the Jamba Heart? Four weapons called "spears of the heart". How did the Ancients make them? By copying and possibly improving on the spears Fecto Elfilis used!
6:56 Actually, 星 can refer to star or planet. In this context, it's referring to a planet rather than what we think of a "star" like the sun.
Yeah, they use the same word for star and planet
While it may stem from this small translation mishap, the Kirby series often uses 'Star' as a pseudo-suffix to denote a name as being that of a planet. It would make sense for the Forgotten Land's planet to follow that naming convention.
Gonna miss you Meteorz, thanks for all the great content!
I know this series is over, but there's one thing I've observed regarding Fecto Elfilis's design: it bears markings similar to Sphere Doomers, which are also beings capable of interdimensional travel. Both beings even sport wings!
The pause description for the fight against 2 EX Doomers in RTDLDX state that they took on a different form a long time ago. Taking all of these facts into consideration, is it possible the Doomers were once the same species as Fecto?
Future of Kirby lore is dark when comes to content from TH-camrs
I’m honestly surprised you didn’t touch on the possibility of Fecto Elfilis being one of the heroes that sealed away void termina
A mi también me sorprende, y más cuando existen teorías sobre eso.
Infinite claps, this is very well done. This series is one of the things which got we interested and become a fan of Kirby. But as the curtains close and the shows end, others may take the stage and shine as bright as the stars before them
That comment on how long it took Elfilin to say thank you got me lmao
Gonna miss these videos, I appreciate all your work Meteroz :)
Considering this game exposes the possibility of who the ancients once were, that being humans, It raises the question: What does that mean for Adeline? The only thing that's really known about her is that she's an artist and she's the only known human in the Kirby universe. There's still a lot of questions about her backstory that could answer some more things in Kirby lore. I hope it gets explored sometime soon.
I really appreciated this series, man. Thank you.
Fecto was a very interesting boss. Little by little we're getting to know more and more about the Ancients and what the heck did they do-- or why. Wherever they're from or what they actually are, I hope we eventually get to know one of them. Besides... Hyness, I guess.
Thanks for all your amazing videos! Many loved them and congrats on 50,000 subscribers! (Just watch HAL release the craziest plot for a Kirby game after this.)
Damn, I'm gonna miss these. You're a big reason why I fell in love with Kirby lore in the first place. I loved Kirby games and their final bosses like crazy, but when I realized there was a bigger picture going on, it was just MIND BLOWING!!! As much as I'd love for you to keep making these for new kirby games in the future, you have more important things in life to worry about. Good Luck with everything!
Same!
The reason why the Japanese version refers a planet to a star is because in Japanese, the word “Star” can also mean “planet,” (星/hoshi) even though there is a word that means planet specifically (惑星/wakusei).
Take that information if you will.
Just my thought, that Fecto Elfilis is one of the four heroes of yore, alongside with Galacta knight and Morpho Knight, also forms a contrast with Kirby(Morpho), Meta Knight(Galacta), Bandana Dee(Fecto Elfilis), if the next game could show us more hints about them, or a boss have hammer-like thing as weapon... (´･ω･|
I wonder what all those hamster wheels containing the Waddle Dees were for. It Fecto could've escaped at any time, it couldn't have been to power the life support, right?
Tal vez sea para que el observatorio recupere su energía.
Pues verás, mi teoría es que la Jauría encontrara el observatorio, y a Fecto Forgo, pero ellos no sabían de sus poderes psíquicos. Fecto necesitaba la energía del observatorio para que recuperara sus fuerzas (ya que en su estado de larva solo puede controlar mentes) y también necesita recuperar a Elfilin para volver a estar completo, pero parece ser que los miembros de la Jauría no eran suficientes para cumplir ambas tareas.
De ahí ocurren los sucesos del juego: con lo poco que le queda de energía, Fecto abre un portal hacia el Planeta Pop para traer a la tierra olvidada los Waddle Dee, ya que son muchos, así que ellos pueden regresarle la energía al observatorio mientras que la Jauría se concentra en capturar a Elfilin.
I think Leon only named himself Leongar after his mind had slept into the influence of Forgo~
This is perhaps the most interesting Kirby Canon video that Meteorz has ever made. (Too bad it’s the last one…)
I remember following this series a couple of years back when I was looking up kirby lore videos. I was really getting into the lore and these videos gave me my fill. Even though this is maybe the last one, I'm glad to have stuck around till the end!
This has been an amazing ride. Thank you for your Kirby Lore analyses!
I’m curious. Who were the people that left the Forgotten Land and enter Dreamland so long ago?
So Kirby and his friends aren't as smol as we thought for all these years. ... WELP! WE'RE SCREWED!!!
The time difference between worlds is clear, when elfilis close the portal at the end, and after a few seconds he appeared back at planet popstar, when u go back to waddledee town he tells you that after closing the portal he was unconscious and clawroline took care of him for a while but for kiby they were a couple of seconds
It's been a fantastic ride. I was glad to be here until the end.
Forgotten land was the real lore builder for the series. It's a bit of a stretch, but the portal that shows up in return to dreamland match the shape that sucked up the waddle dees and kirby. Maybe a connection? Still, it's crazy to see how much you just proved that this really is, the ultimate lifeform
Yo: "lo siento, shadow the hedgehog".
No way he's back
i was spoiled for this game in a thumbnail on release.
Wouldn't just time passing by faster in the other dimension make way more sense?
It's a common science fiction trope too
I feel so smart right now cause I predicted the ‘humans were on shiver star and left to earth’ theory long before the game came out!
Here’s my question with Clawoline
HOW DID SHE EVEN GET IN?!
The portal closes after every time Kirby enters
Sad to see this series go, but it was really enjoyable all the way through. Thanks for all the great times, Meteorz :)
my man said "see you next time" like this wasn't the end of the series
Another way to explain the time difference is time flowing at different speeds on popstar and the forgotten lands. if that is true, then at the end of the adventure they might pop back home and find only minutes have passed at all.
Is this Olathe last one? If yes, thanks for making awesome videos, Meteorz! We’ll be waiting for you to return in like, 1974747483 years lol
6:00to 6:06 This means that all the animals that got consumed by forgo, including Morpho Knight, has been consumed forever, meaning no more morpho knight bosses or themes
Come to think of it fecto elfilis could be the first creature made from void termina because why would he be named the ultimate life form
I find it pretty interesting that they are re-releasing Kirby Return to Dreamland not too long after Forgotten Land. Maybe this time we get some more backstory about the lor star cutter, Magalor and everything else.....should be fun.
Imagine how pissed elfilis would be if he found out how much fun elfilin was having while all he did was dreaming about random crap
i love fecto elfilis for his bu... i mean lore
Easily the best kirby canon video to ever grace the history of ever
This is a world we live in, when sometimes it’s too hard to say goodbye to those very close to us, and this is a major example of that. Meteorz, thanks so much for all this Kirby lore over the years, and we’re sure gonna miss you after 2022. Goodbye and good luck
And here we are!
Finally at Forgotten Lands lore!
The end of the cannonball
Thanks! I started watching your vid after playing forgotten land and it was very informative!
And here we are, indeed. The last episode of What Is Kirby Canon has arrived, and what an episode to go out on. Thank you for your service, Meteorz.
Another similarity between the vortex and black holes, there’s a concept known as Spahgettification, and in the cutscene, we see it stretching Kirby’s body, which is what gives him the mouthful mode ability
10:10 It could also simply be a difference between the worlds - time may pass faster in the universe of the Forgotten Land than it does in Popstar's universe. This seems to be supported by Elfilin's dialogue about him closing the portal - _after_ closing it, he was weakened and had to be nursed back to health, suggesting that it took a while for him to get better after the portal was closed. For Kirby and the players, it took a few seconds, but for Elfilin and the Forgotten Land, it could have been days, weeks, or months.
Black Holes don't really "suck" things either, unless you want to say that a star does as well. They simply have a lot of gravity, like a star.
Thank you for this series
Meteor, as someone who's been watching since you first tackled Galacta Knight, I just want to say thank you for creating what is in my opinion the best series on TH-cam. Learning about the depth behind this universe and all the characters inhabiting it made it easier to appreciate the Kirby series for how great the games really are, and because of that I have you to credit for almost half of my knowledge of the games' lore and for the countless valuable memories I made playing new Kirby games because of the interest in them you sparked within me. It's been a long journey, and I'm glad you were able to be there with us through the thick and thin! Best of luck with raising your child, and here's hoping RTDL Deluxe turns out amazing!
Here’s my headcannon
I believe that the people of the forgotten land are indeed the ancients and when they left their planet they most likely went to the Dreamscape from Kirby clash where they further advanced their technology and spread their influence throughout the cosmos. This can be seen by the several dream fountains found throughout Milky Way wishes. At some point through their travels they discovered the mystery’s of void , and they may have even incorporated some of voids power or influence into their technology as shown through the master crown. However some individuals began to study it further while others feared it and chose not to mess with powers they couldn’t fully understand. This disagreement is what divided the ancients between the scientific and magical ones. One side chose to stick with the already amazing powers they had and could explain through science, technology and reason through their studies of Fecto Elfilis and his “spacial teleportation abilities”, while the other side chose to delve into the dark depths of magic and unknown as they witnessed void in its “shining form” and the sheer destruction but also possibilities it can create. Despite these disagreements they were able to coexist and together lived in a time of great prosperity. At some point though after witnessing what the true power of void and the magical ancients held the scientific ancients chose to banish them away in fear of their power and y’all know the rest. With friendship and unity being one of the key themes in the series I think it was this divide and ultimate betrayal that led to the downfall of the ancients themselves and if they would’ve just accepted their differences and worked together things would have been different.
Kirby games have a habit of taking previous story and remastering it as a new one. Seeing the line of positive/negative bosses, the Taranza/Susie/Clawroline connection, the primary antagonist being driven mad by something higher... this clearly hasn't changed, but Forgotten Land's been one of the best! More of the story was given clearly this time, but I will always appreciate one of these. At least one concept always ends up clearer, like a plausible way for Dedede and Meta Knight to have had time to explore before Kirby arrived (I had just assumed multiple portals), or making Fecto's journey feel much more hardcore by arranging translations with the other data, and/or a comparison with the traits of other ball bosses that almost adds a minor theme to the whole series (just some of the emotional generation stuff).
P.S.:
For a long time, some (ancient Greeks?) believed Lions specifically mated with Leopards. This may have been a myth, but what are myths if not decent inspiration for stories?
Do you/anyone here think Elfilin should have gotten more? Maybe at least a filled ear by the end?
Love that description!
Wait... the opening captions called you... Meteor. All this time, and Meteorz wasn't your direct name!?
Speaking of slight differences, isn't Fecto's pod the "Eterna" Capsule?
I tried my best to withdraw from the Kirby-internet before Forgotten Land came out to avoid spoilers, and that's mostly been the case since as well (sadly didn't really work out anyways). Before that, I avoided the K64 series in hopes of playing it soon semi-blind. It'll be hard to forget pieces of videos like all about 02 and what happened with Shiver Star, but Dream Collection did finally arrive last week, so it feels worth it. I doubt you'll really see this or remember, but both of those reasons are why I tried to say thanks for the series so much on that one KLR stream several months back - figured it was the last chance in a long while. This is still the first of these videos I've seen since, but I'm assuming your plans have remained the same? For reasons a little difficult to explain, it's genuinely hard to look at this game for long, but even if you're ending here, I'm excited to watch the rest of what you've made since the game released! This channel has been like a gift these past few years, and no matter what you do, I want to wish you the best of luck. :)
An unspecified Air Ride Machine, to be revealed in (the currently speculative) Kirby's Air Ride 2.
I just think time moves faster in lost world, in general. It took several seconds for Kirby AFTER the portal closed, to see Elfilin again.
thank you for this series meteorz
Efilin! You can just ditch the homies like that! Especially if that homie is yourself!
-100 homie points
The EX Stages being canon is such a nice treat from Kirby.
*_AND HERE WE ARE_* , *and here we are* , and here we are...
9:35 The thing is- it’s most likely that time isn’t absolute between dimensions and that it flows faster in the Forgotten Land Dimension than Pop star’s home dimension. Kirby was one of the last few beings to get sucked in the portal, so he most likely MISSED OUT on the town being built and destroyed. For Kirby, Elfilin came back a few seconds after he left, but for Elfilin, it may have been a few days while Carol was getting him back to health. In fact, the whole of Forgotten Land may have been a few months in the Forgotten Land Dimension, but only a few hours back on Popstar.
That was according to the RPG Monger. I also have a personal theory- that Fecto Elfilis was a result of Astral Birth Void getting Dream Energy. How could that be? Well, According to Void’s phase 2 description (in Japan), It implies that Void is made up of 4 primal, abstract forces or energies- Dream, Dark, Soul, and Heart? Here’s my take on this-
Dream- the dreams and desires of living things
Soul- the energy that makes things live
Heart- stable, positive energy and emotions
Dark- unstable, negative energy and emotions.
Now, for Fecto Elfilis, his powers of SpaceTime manipulation may be derived from Void, allowing the ancients to use and replicate that power in order to create their stuff. As Fecto Forgo, their powers of Dream energy and Psychic energy allowed him to brainwash the animals of the forgotten land (causing Leon to become King Leongar of the Beast Pack), and as Soul Forgo, create Phantom-like Illusions of all the beings it brainwashed based on memories alone (they have the shapes of the originals, but the eyes of Fecto Forgo’s chimera form and the colors of Fecto Forgo, Fecto Elfilis, and Elfilin, but I digress), all of that inside a Dream realm of its own making, Forgo Dreams, the Isolated Isles. and once Soul Forgo broke free and absorbed the power of Morpho the butterfly, all the powers of Dream, Dark, Soul, and Heart, combined to turn Fecto Elfilis into Chaos Elfilis. As Chaos Elfilis, they are much stronger in their attacks, and they also have copied Morpho’s ability to teleport, create sword beams, and summon tornados. Similar to Void absorbing the Mages’s Powers of Fire, Ice, and Lightning, along with their weapons (sword, spear, and axe), just like Kirby and his copy abilities. In their second phase, they summon a giant shadow version of themselves (mostly their upper half), also through memories alone. (Even if it resembles Taranza’s Sectonia move more) And in the final phase, Soul of Chaos Elfilis even looks like Void, and as someone pointed out (don’t remember who), they glitch out when hit, just like Nightmare’s Power Orb. In the last phase, they mimic the classic Giant Fireball, Paint Splatter, Black Hole, Multi-Cutter, and the Bounce attacks, which are iconic with Kirby Soul Bosses.
In conclusion, with all of those details, I am certain that Fecto Elfilis is the result of Void getting Dream energy (or as some people say, Fecto Elfilis is “Dream Matter”). So what do you think about Meteorz? Up for one last Canon or Cannot?
The final episode of this series and the video of this channel hopefully this isn't good bye hopefully we'll all meet again some Sunny Day
And so, we come to the end of an era on this channel. If this truly is the end, then it has been a great time Meteorz.
you ever think about how we never see the waddle dees running on all those wheels get saved
and are also never added to the waddle dee counter for the town
Why did it take hearing you talk about Forgo’s dreams and memories and such making up an entire reality and guaranteeing its survival to make me realize that this thing is the closest the _Kirby_ series has gotten to a true Lovecraftian Elder God. Like, even more so than Void.
And here I was being relieved that this game (apart from Morpho Knight) was largely removed from the lore for Popstar’s and Halcandra’s dimensions, but then here comes Meteor theorizing me to be wrong…
(Also real science is great and I love when it’s integrated into otherwise fantastical settings you shut your face, boy)
I KNEW IT, KIRBY ISN’T 8INCHES TALL
I love your content dude. You are my main Kirby guy and it's sad to see you go, but that is life. I only wish you the best life with your family
Adiós amigo...
*Me only thinking about changing logo in the thumbnail because HAL Labs did*
We need Elfilin and Elfilis to become dream friends. (Elfilis will be shortened or perhaps it’s an alternate form for Elfilin)
The black hole thing isn't entirely like that. Time starts acting space-like and space starts acting time-like. Pbs science TH-cam channel has a video on it. Watch if you want.
Clockers? Oh, so that's how the little crows are called huh?