One of your best qualities is your ability to interview people and ask great questions. I would love to see casual rounds with pros where you’re interviewing them
I have 3 things for you for your forehand. I was coached by Chris Taylor. 1 wrist fully cocked always until the follow through 2 longer reach back means more time to accelerate, reaching above head is a better anatomical position 3 Do not plant your plant foot on your heel, you want to stop that lead hip as abruptly as possible and you can do that on your toe, or flat. This will causing trailing hip to shoot around.
@@Trevorstaubdiscgolf his point for number 2 - "reaching above head is a better anatomical position" or at least starting with the disc higher. @9:14. -the two shots you throw are on an upwards angled plain. It's not a huge angle, but maybe trying to force a higher starting position in the reach back could help with that? I am just another player in the struggle to learn and get better so i could be way off haha
@@Trevorstaubdiscgolf of course I promise you try these you will notice a change immediately. Love the new series btw! Looking forward to its growth and new content
Hey Trevor! I would definitely consider myself forehand dominant and saw a couple things that stand out to me that may help. 1. You are losing a lot of consistency by having a very short reach back and follow through. Would suggest rotating back with your hips and body more and getting the disc away from your body on the reach back then really extending your arm to where you want to throw as you follow through. (Because your wrist snap is already there for that power so you don't need to rush the throw) 2. Throwing low forehands is my favorite thing to do! It was weird at first but it helps to really focus on having your hand at elbow level through the entire follow through. And really force yourself to extend forward. When you think "throw downhill" but your hand gets above your elbow its an annhyzer typically. Good luck! As a fellow Virginia disc golfer I love the vids! Keep it up!!
One thing that has definitely helped my Forehand was taking out all the overstable discs, and focused on neutral to understable ones. They are less forgiving and will expose your weaknesses until you learn to control them. Excited about the new channel, looking forward to more videos!!!!
Completely agree with this! I've been using only a Crave (6.5, 5, -1, 1) recently and it's been teaching me a lot and can be unforgiving if I don't get it right.
Love the new channel! Best forehand advice I've gotten are from 2 sources. #1 Trash Panda's forehand video "pinch the disc harder than you think" and #2 Bodanza's advice that he got from Kevin Keiffer to drop the right knee (not the whole body) when trying to commit to a lower forehand line.
Rough course ha. Suffering some serious neglect, but I appreciate you sending those discs into what looks like the unknown bc, well, those lines are known to you!
Some tips from someone who has only played for 6 months that shouldn't be giving you any advice BUT I can throw a 400 ft forehand drive: Loosen your grip, I've noticed that I have a tendency to roll my wrist and turn the disc over when I grip too tightly. Even if you want to throw straight, hold the disc with a little bit of hyzer, I tend to over compensate the flick in my wrist so if I put it on some hyzer I'll actually be throwing it straight. Throw lower to the ground, by turning my body somewhat towards the ground (kind've like Sarah Hokom) I tend to throw flatter and nowhere near as nose up as I used to. And lastly, please throw a DD Trespass on forehand, it gets enough turn to extend the flight but also will go laser straight! Also, just want to say I love the videos, love being able to consume more disc golf content!
I love the more chill format. So much content these days is fast fast fast... this video made me feel like we were just playing a round of disc golf and chatting along the way. Keep it up!
Forehand all day. It makes the best sense in comparison to a backhand throw imo. As far as how you approach your videos, most of us probably came here from watching your Foundation videos and liking what you do there so just be yourself and do what you like and we will like it. I'm working on my forehand this summer and have the same 2 issues when I have a bad shot (nose up and or early release). Glad to see this topic on your channel.
As a forehand player it's refreshing to see and hear someone put in the thought of having a forehand only round with talking through the struggles. I'm just now working on my hyzer flip up shots and it does require a lot of arm speed to get it to ride to flat. Good luck Trevor! I'm enjoying the new channel!
2 quick tips, may have already been mentioned. (1) when wanting a certain angle of release, look at the disc before you send it. (2) wrist height compared to elbow height: below elbow (hyzer) even with elbow (flat) above elbow (anhyzer) Hope this helps 🤘🏻
Hey Trevor, first off, I really love that you decided to go a solo channel route. It gives me more confidence to actually continue my own channel. I have a channel I started last year but only have about 6 shorts on it. Really wanted to do full videos but didn’t have a good image on how to do it. And I feel like we are more alike then I am compared with any other solo disc golf TH-camr. Yes I know you already had a following but still give me more drive to actually try it. Second, I’m not a forehand expert but I feel like I have a good grasp, and sometimes still better from someone seeing in. So when I throw my forehands I am also low but I hinge more at my waist instead bending my knees more. So my timing pretty much stays the same and it allows me to, for the most part, keep my arm at a more comfortable angle, just like the angle you said you are more comfortable with. Also, your follow through, for nose angle, what I tell people when they are first learning and I’m teaching them, I tell them to make sure your fingers finish pointing towards the basket then work in the follow through to finish down towards your left hip. Hopefully that might help, it one of those thing you might have to start all the way over to basics because you have been playing for so long, you body’s muscle memory will always revert back and you have to try to corrected the little things more often. And then you don’t think about the shot and start thinking of everything all at once and then throw bad shot. Hope you actually read through this whole comment and it helps if not thanks for your time man, keep up the content
I had some of the same issues as you. The fix for me was resting the right side of my thumb on top of the disc instead of my thumbprint down. It puts your hand in a much more baseball throw-like position. Good luck!
Whenever my forehand gets away from me, I usually hit my local 9-hole putter course, and practice my standstill forehands with my zone. It's helped me get out of forehand funks so many times. Usually, I'm having to re-calibrate my "flick" part of my throw and minimize arm movements. From there is just working your disc's nose angle to maximize distance with the least amount of moving parts during the throwing motion. Sick video dude!
Really nice video. I have yet to try a forehand shot. So your video was just what I needed to start learning to throw it. I love the fact that you are just yourself and on a bad shot you explain why it was a bad shot. Then throw another shot to hopefully to show the right way or better shot.
future videos.....I like to see you working through things you are having issues with, like the forehand. keep that up. And every so often, play a course and talk us through how you 'attack' each hole/shot. What is your strategy?
I also have a baseball background (P,3B) and it took me a lot of time and experimentation to find forehand confidence. Throwing a ball and throwing a disc are very different, but the power transfer mechanics are the same. A couple things I try to keep in mind when I’m practicing are to make sure that i plant my front foot first as i would with a backhand. Keep my weight back and the violence down in the throwing motion by driving my right hip instead of trying to contract my left side. It helps me stay fluid and on my line and reach through the hit point. Helps me get more spin as well. I had to experiment with grips a lot to get a clean release. I have been using a pretty flat palmed pistol grip and still getting good spin and speed but sacrificing hyzer angle control
The best thing i ever did for my forehand was do fieldwork with neutral discs like buzzes/undertakers. I got a stack of like 12 I had on the rack and they told me right away what my issues were. My common problem was having my hips open and 'pulling' it right. Thinking about "sliding" the disc across a table from my chest to the follow through helped reduce the wobble a ton. And my nose up issues almost always came from 'dipping' my back leg in my weight transfer throwing my shoulders backwards. I was a college tennis player, and comfortably standstill forehand like 325 with fairways now when i couldn't hit C1 from 100 feet with a forehand. I still need to work on adding a walk up into it... my weight transfer goes out the window when i add it. Hope me learning from my mistakes might click! Loving the videos.
Hey man watch y’all religiously. Awesome to see y’all branching out also I’m planning a trip to Lynchburg later this year and wanting to come to the shop and would also like to catch a round with y’all.
Man, I relate to this! I'm newer to Disc Golf, about 5 months, I cannot throw a forehand to save my life! I literally couldn't hit the side of a barn if I was 50 feet in front of it! Lol! I practice throw a few 1 or 2 times a week, but get frustrated after they wobble for 50 feet & drop or throw into the ground 10 feet in front of me! I'm from a baseball/softball background, playing/coaching, so trying to adjust. Soothing to see a good player like you has these struggles, good video, talking things through! 👍
I definitely relate. Been playing disc golf for 3 years, came from a baseball background so I naturally had a serviceable forehand. I’ve only recently developed into 350+ with my backhand. Really looking forward to these episode.
vid #2, lets go Trevor. i am in the same boat with my forehand. any time i try to push it out much past 200' i let the nose get higher and send it into the woods. i did just play my league round saturday and was throwing a FH all over fools - but i've had good days in the past too. Id love to see some more of these videos as well as some coaching and interviews. either way we will keep supporting you as long as you keep doing you. God Bless
A lot of good advice here in the comments. When throwing high speeds flat, I'm not afraid to push the disc pretty wide on the follow through. Keep it flat and push it with your hip. This mindset helps me keep it flat throughout the throw. Hope it helps
Really like the vibe Trevor! What changed my forehand game the most was 2 things; grip it harder and being aware of the backswing (using a "windmill backswing" instead of a "pendelum"), credits to Stokely!
Suoer stoked with this channel! I really can't wait for more. One quick thing i notced u can improve on is zooming in and moving around the camera in editing, some great examples is any of Bodaza, Nate Turner or Broderic videos. I noticed this 6:00 minutes in. Awsome work and like I said can't wait for more
Great video. I too have been working on my forehand a lot lately. What has really helped me is practice with understable mids and putters, the logic in base line feels amazing for flicks. its been great for knowing the angles and saved me quite a few strokes where you need the right to left movement but aren't able to throw a backhand
I had to pause 3 minutes in because your experience is exactly like mine. Played baseball all throughout high school (still play as an adult), but forehand has just entirely eluded me as a consistent throw, particularly on drives.
Only piece of advice I would give, as someone still a novice in forehand, is to practice with slightly overstable putters and straight mids with relatively flat tops. Examples I would give are Aviar3 and Mako3, but any brand and model similar to those would be great.
I'm a former baseball player forehand only disc golfer. I have pretty good distance, and the thing that always helps me when I want to get more distance is to focus more on flicking my wrist harder, or faster, and less on using my arm to gain that extra speed. Whenever I try to power up with my arm I get less Rpms and distance. But when. I really focus on getting the disc out of my hand faster with more wrist pop I get better distance
Absolutely love the extra Trevor content each week! I'm working on my non-existent forehand right now and this is incredibly helpful! Thank you, Trevor!!
Best piece of advice would be field work with a neutral putter. Start with not much power at all and slowly build up. Also try to find discs that are comfortable for your forehand. I have nukes that I only use for backhand, but a couple that I can also forehand. Try to look for discs that are more flat rather than domey. Flatter discs seem to be better for most golfers forehand.
My best single piece of advice is learn to spin your flippiest disc and still get it to hyzer out to the right and that spin will teach control for all angles and stabilities
Love the video! Super entertaining and well put together. For reducing wobble, I would try going to a field and throwing flippy putters. Focus on flicking the wrist and throw until you can get them to come out smooth and flat.
Ryan Sheldon has THE best forehand video, and he is the farthest throwing forehand thrower there is. His mechanics are top notch, being a semi-pro baseball pitcher. 600ft+ forehand lasers. His technique is relatively low impact for the amount of force aswell.
Excellent video, loving the vibe of this channel! Very cool to see you express yourself differently. No shade on Foundation, still love all you guys! #GoTrev
OT disc golf two types of forehand video solidified the forehand for me. It’s surprising how neutral I can go on hyzer forehands-game changer. I’m using a buzzz or reactor for hyzer FHs.
The forhand you threw on hole 5 should be what you do everytime when you forehand think about this you want to have your fingers pointing in spot where you want the disc to be and I always tell people when I'm teaching them think about throwing your forehand on a table top to keep it level. I like the idea of your own Chanel man keep keeping on brother
One thing i always notice helps with my forehand is to really focus on reaching towards the point im aiming, and then following through. Dont actually stop the swing, but actively think about reaching towards your target before finishing your stroke. 👍👍
I was garbage at forehand and lost a tournament to a forehand specialist, I decided to learn a forehand and the way I learned was starting with the approach and learning my way up. Berg was my teacher and I learned to throw control angles and power. I took that to the mid and driver.
The amount of work you do with foundation, the fact you find time for your own channel really shows the level of dedication you have. Keep up the good work 💪🏼
Something that really helped me was lining my right hip up with the line I want to throw. Then I drive through with that right hip. Very similar to a football throw, so you're not throwing across your body and can keep the disc on a straight line.
I'm having a lot of the same issues with my forehand and rely on chopping down on it to keep it nose down. The thing that's working for me right now is thinking of the throw like it's a slap rather than a swing of my arm. It's helping me time the hit easier too but still lots of work to be done. Looking forward to see the progress.
I have to agree with this comment, used to have a really good forehand until a shoulder injury forced me to play only backhand for a year. The way I got back into my forehands was to not think of it as a throw, dont overdo a reachback or followthrough, just think of the hit point and throw abunch of 200-250' shots with that small hitpoint and angles as a focus. If you can do that with your honey or some other neutral disc a bunch of times and feel comfortable, then all you have to do is try to hit it abit harder.
Hey Trev loving the channel so far. Recently I’ve grown my forehand distance accuracy etc. how I’ve done that is through picking a hole that is just slighting out of my forehand distance and try to ace it this allows me to make corrections quickly and it’s exciting. P.S your forehand isn’t goated cus you’re throwing the slammer rather than the pig 😂
I think one simple analysis is that your are dropping into your throwing stance as you are beginning to throw. Try a walk up while your are already into throwing position, so your whole body doesn't have to drop/rotate to get into position before you throw. This should make things more consistent, less variable in stance movement. I've been a forehand dominant player for 11+years due to shoulder injuries. I max around ~450ft on flat ground. The biggest tip I give to new players is the elbow-hip connection. Let your elbow/arm follow your hip as it rotates through. This is high-impact on your elbow, so if you aren't flexible you won't be able to achieve a good whip. Also, tight pinch, where the disc should be ripping through your lead finger as you release. I have a permanent callus on my middle finger where the disc releases.
i like that you walked from the tee on the hole 18 minutes in. It gave me a better feel for the hole opposed to when the camera just pops to the next shot. I get that you cant do that on all the holes but would be nice on the tighter lanes.
Yo I watch In the Bag religiously. On your episode when you were describing your desired flight out of an overstable throwing putter I thought about the Jokeri from produscus. It's essentially a more overstable sky god 4 with a lower shoulder and puddle top so it feels way more shallow. I'm convinced if you tried one, you'd love it!
Bogey Bros has made me go out and have rounds like this where i create a format to follow during my game in order to practice certain skills. Forehand vs backhand games are the most common for me, also right hand vs. Left hand. Anyway, these types of rounds really help me out, so its good to see Trevor doing them.
Quick tip for filming shots especially if you're looking for feedback: make sure your feet are in the frame so we can see the footwork/run up, that can be just as critical as upper body stuff
I've learned two lessons while trying to get better forehand. I used to be like you and liked to throw a bit overstable disc to get flex flight. But I tore my abdominal muscle last week because I was lacking follow through. :( How I learned how to throw flat/ hyzer with disc: I just started throwing understable discs. For me it's Neo Essence. Now I can flick/ throw my essence/ worn G-line PD any place and hit 90-100meters and it has helped me throw stable distance drivers (DD3, Destroyer, wraiths) flat/ hyzer further.
I want to see you grow. Foundation is great for the fun videos. I want to see your struggle to improve so I can learn lessons while not making the same mistakes :P
Hey Trevor, love the content! I come from a baseball background myself and so had the same issues you mentioned with your forehand. What I found was I was trying to throw it like a baseball which is a very different mechanic. However if I switched to thinking similar to a baseball swing (bc your arm is moving in a very similar motion when swinging a bat) I found the right spin on the disc and not leaving the nose up as with a baseball swing you roll your wrists over, do the same at the end release of your forehand. I also started instead of holding the disc out to my side flat like I see you doing, I would bring it up next to my face like where the barrel of the bay would be with the swing and then go through that motion. Hopefully that helps! If you have any questions let me know!
One note for follow through with forehands: make sure you get your right leg through when you follow through. When you keep that right foot planted, all your power stops at the hips. When you release the disc, let your right leg lift up and allow your body to do a full turn like a backhand, it will help your power immensely.
Can relate… the best forehand guy in my area, constantly says he concentrates the most on the disc coming off his finger on line. Seems to work for me.
A couple of tips. Try standstill drives and upshots to develop your form and throw a little less stable discs to develop your touch. Something like a 10 speed with -1 2 or -2 2 should be good.
That miss at 12:04 is my main miss as well. Because it happens so often I basically don’t throw forehands anymore. But… last week we just got a brand new very wooded course that requires a good forehand so I realized I NEED to figure it out. Thanks for the video, great timing!! Also, I too played baseball then softball but I was an outfielder and I think that’s why I roll my wrist so much bc I’m used to thespian 3/4 to completely over the top and needing to put a lot of spin on the ball.
I loved this round. Honestly talking through it can help me and others improve their forehands too. I only throw forehand and one thing I am good at is throwing very clean (no wobble forehands). I can only throw just over 300ft with my drivers (typically 10 speeds) so take my advice with a grain of salt. But I have been working on my follow through as well and also angle one thing that helps with both is thinking about my wrist and even forearm going through at the angle I want the disc to release on as I’m throwing. I throw lots of hyzer flips because I like flippy stuff and it also lets me know if I roll my wrist. Another thing I have been doing is deciding the angle of release before throwing instead of midshot (don’t ever decide midshot). Then even if the shot goes to a bad spot but I hit my angle I’m not upset with the shot. This also helps me learn my discs more.
I played baseball/adult softball for 35 years and my forehand was terrible. I was playing league earlier this year and a guy gave me a tip to "snap" my fingers when releasing. It increased the spin dramatically and I can now get 300' + on my FH throws. I also stopped using OS discs and focused on US discs. My Sidewinder and Wave are my go-tos. With US discs you have to be smooth or else it's burning into the ground. If I really want to get into a throw now I will use a halo Destroyer to crank on it.
Might be too much post-production work, but have you ever considered putting the name/manufacturer/flight numbers of the disc you are throwing up in the the corner of the screen before each throw? Would help familiarize us beginners with the various discs and reinforce what you are trying to do throw-wise. Could also insert a pic of the disc and maybe even the release angle you are attempting--hyzer, anhyzer, flat.
Hey Trevor, liking hearing you talk without the "Foundation banter". It makes a welcome change of pace.
Thanks! I appreciate all the amazing support.
One of your best qualities is your ability to interview people and ask great questions. I would love to see casual rounds with pros where you’re interviewing them
THIS!!!!! This would be absolutely awesome to see.
Underrated interviewer for sure
or maybe while doing bogey bros maybe could interview local legends.
11:58 that throw is relatable af 🤣
I have 3 things for you for your forehand. I was coached by Chris Taylor.
1 wrist fully cocked always until the follow through
2 longer reach back means more time to accelerate, reaching above head is a better anatomical position
3 Do not plant your plant foot on your heel, you want to stop that lead hip as abruptly as possible and you can do that on your toe, or flat. This will causing trailing hip to shoot around.
Thanks for these tips!
Thanks for the tips!
@@Trevorstaubdiscgolf his point for number 2 - "reaching above head is a better anatomical position" or at least starting with the disc higher. @9:14. -the two shots you throw are on an upwards angled plain. It's not a huge angle, but maybe trying to force a higher starting position in the reach back could help with that? I am just another player in the struggle to learn and get better so i could be way off haha
@@Trevorstaubdiscgolf of course I promise you try these you will notice a change immediately. Love the new series btw! Looking forward to its growth and new content
Hey Trevor! I would definitely consider myself forehand dominant and saw a couple things that stand out to me that may help.
1. You are losing a lot of consistency by having a very short reach back and follow through. Would suggest rotating back with your hips and body more and getting the disc away from your body on the reach back then really extending your arm to where you want to throw as you follow through. (Because your wrist snap is already there for that power so you don't need to rush the throw)
2. Throwing low forehands is my favorite thing to do! It was weird at first but it helps to really focus on having your hand at elbow level through the entire follow through. And really force yourself to extend forward. When you think "throw downhill" but your hand gets above your elbow its an annhyzer typically.
Good luck! As a fellow Virginia disc golfer I love the vids! Keep it up!!
One thing that has definitely helped my Forehand was taking out all the overstable discs, and focused on neutral to understable ones. They are less forgiving and will expose your weaknesses until you learn to control them. Excited about the new channel, looking forward to more videos!!!!
Completely agree with this! I've been using only a Crave (6.5, 5, -1, 1) recently and it's been teaching me a lot and can be unforgiving if I don't get it right.
I do the same thing and then Simon drops a destroyer clone and that theory will go out the window!
3:44 into this video and I feel like you are literally speaking my truth 💯👍👏👌🤷♂️
Love the new channel! Best forehand advice I've gotten are from 2 sources. #1 Trash Panda's forehand video "pinch the disc harder than you think" and #2 Bodanza's advice that he got from Kevin Keiffer to drop the right knee (not the whole body) when trying to commit to a lower forehand line.
Rough course ha. Suffering some serious neglect, but I appreciate you sending those discs into what looks like the unknown bc, well, those lines are known to you!
Trevor, my man, LOVE this. Keep it up bro. Proud of you and and miss ya.
The nose up in the air is a really good point!! My biggest mistake is the classic turn and burn, so I’ll keep that in mind!!
Some tips from someone who has only played for 6 months that shouldn't be giving you any advice BUT I can throw a 400 ft forehand drive: Loosen your grip, I've noticed that I have a tendency to roll my wrist and turn the disc over when I grip too tightly. Even if you want to throw straight, hold the disc with a little bit of hyzer, I tend to over compensate the flick in my wrist so if I put it on some hyzer I'll actually be throwing it straight. Throw lower to the ground, by turning my body somewhat towards the ground (kind've like Sarah Hokom) I tend to throw flatter and nowhere near as nose up as I used to. And lastly, please throw a DD Trespass on forehand, it gets enough turn to extend the flight but also will go laser straight! Also, just want to say I love the videos, love being able to consume more disc golf content!
So many dang bugs. Hats off for even being out there!
I love the more chill format. So much content these days is fast fast fast... this video made me feel like we were just playing a round of disc golf and chatting along the way. Keep it up!
Really enjoying what you're doing here. Keep it up!
I still love the Foundation content and all the heckling that buddies do.
Forehand all day. It makes the best sense in comparison to a backhand throw imo. As far as how you approach your videos, most of us probably came here from watching your Foundation videos and liking what you do there so just be yourself and do what you like and we will like it. I'm working on my forehand this summer and have the same 2 issues when I have a bad shot (nose up and or early release). Glad to see this topic on your channel.
As a forehand player it's refreshing to see and hear someone put in the thought of having a forehand only round with talking through the struggles. I'm just now working on my hyzer flip up shots and it does require a lot of arm speed to get it to ride to flat. Good luck Trevor! I'm enjoying the new channel!
This is a great video. Thorough explanations and a wide variety of tips to improve.
Love the one on one feel with this format!
Great video Trevis. Was waiting for that hyzer flip at the end. That's my personal bread n butter
Keep it up man! So glad you and Hunter are doing some channels separate and giving us more videos to watch
What I learned today: I'm a heathen! Thanks, Trevor!
2 quick tips, may have already been mentioned. (1) when wanting a certain angle of release, look at the disc before you send it. (2) wrist height compared to elbow height: below elbow (hyzer) even with elbow (flat) above elbow (anhyzer) Hope this helps 🤘🏻
I think I jsut figured out by mistake , make so much sense. thank you.
Hey Trevor, first off, I really love that you decided to go a solo channel route. It gives me more confidence to actually continue my own channel. I have a channel I started last year but only have about 6 shorts on it. Really wanted to do full videos but didn’t have a good image on how to do it. And I feel like we are more alike then I am compared with any other solo disc golf TH-camr. Yes I know you already had a following but still give me more drive to actually try it.
Second, I’m not a forehand expert but I feel like I have a good grasp, and sometimes still better from someone seeing in. So when I throw my forehands I am also low but I hinge more at my waist instead bending my knees more. So my timing pretty much stays the same and it allows me to, for the most part, keep my arm at a more comfortable angle, just like the angle you said you are more comfortable with. Also, your follow through, for nose angle, what I tell people when they are first learning and I’m teaching them, I tell them to make sure your fingers finish pointing towards the basket then work in the follow through to finish down towards your left hip. Hopefully that might help, it one of those thing you might have to start all the way over to basics because you have been playing for so long, you body’s muscle memory will always revert back and you have to try to corrected the little things more often. And then you don’t think about the shot and start thinking of everything all at once and then throw bad shot.
Hope you actually read through this whole comment and it helps if not thanks for your time man, keep up the content
I had some of the same issues as you. The fix for me was resting the right side of my thumb on top of the disc instead of my thumbprint down. It puts your hand in a much more baseball throw-like position. Good luck!
Whenever my forehand gets away from me, I usually hit my local 9-hole putter course, and practice my standstill forehands with my zone. It's helped me get out of forehand funks so many times. Usually, I'm having to re-calibrate my "flick" part of my throw and minimize arm movements. From there is just working your disc's nose angle to maximize distance with the least amount of moving parts during the throwing motion. Sick video dude!
Really nice video. I have yet to try a forehand shot. So your video was just what I needed to start learning to throw it.
I love the fact that you are just yourself and on a bad shot you explain why it was a bad shot. Then throw another shot to hopefully to show the right way or better shot.
23:32 very good advice, thank you Trev!
future videos.....I like to see you working through things you are having issues with, like the forehand. keep that up. And every so often, play a course and talk us through how you 'attack' each hole/shot. What is your strategy?
I also have a baseball background (P,3B) and it took me a lot of time and experimentation to find forehand confidence. Throwing a ball and throwing a disc are very different, but the power transfer mechanics are the same. A couple things I try to keep in mind when I’m practicing are to make sure that i plant my front foot first as i would with a backhand. Keep my weight back and the violence down in the throwing motion by driving my right hip instead of trying to contract my left side. It helps me stay fluid and on my line and reach through the hit point. Helps me get more spin as well.
I had to experiment with grips a lot to get a clean release. I have been using a pretty flat palmed pistol grip and still getting good spin and speed but sacrificing hyzer angle control
The best thing i ever did for my forehand was do fieldwork with neutral discs like buzzes/undertakers. I got a stack of like 12 I had on the rack and they told me right away what my issues were. My common problem was having my hips open and 'pulling' it right. Thinking about "sliding" the disc across a table from my chest to the follow through helped reduce the wobble a ton. And my nose up issues almost always came from 'dipping' my back leg in my weight transfer throwing my shoulders backwards.
I was a college tennis player, and comfortably standstill forehand like 325 with fairways now when i couldn't hit C1 from 100 feet with a forehand. I still need to work on adding a walk up into it... my weight transfer goes out the window when i add it.
Hope me learning from my mistakes might click!
Loving the videos.
Most podcasts and videos are all about the pros. Your videos are a welcome change also.
Keep it going Trevor we love ya bro!! #StaubMondays #Discgolf #KeepOnStreamin
Love to see the honey throw, that's my kind of forehand, my go to forehand disc is a flippy scorch
Really enjoyed that. I like the vibe of a relaxed round, touch of coaching, and relatability. Keep killing it.
Nice seeing you struggle with this just like I do. Hope you make more of these to show your improvements.
Hey man watch y’all religiously. Awesome to see y’all branching out also I’m planning a trip to Lynchburg later this year and wanting to come to the shop and would also like to catch a round with y’all.
I coke from a baseball background too. My is anytime I try to put some power on my forehand I roll it over bad.
Great insight! Subscribed and am looking forward to more vids!
Absolutely love the vibe of these videos so far! I like that you’re slowing down to explain your thought process a lot more.
Man, I relate to this! I'm newer to Disc Golf, about 5 months, I cannot throw a forehand to save my life! I literally couldn't hit the side of a barn if I was 50 feet in front of it! Lol! I practice throw a few 1 or 2 times a week, but get frustrated after they wobble for 50 feet & drop or throw into the ground 10 feet in front of me! I'm from a baseball/softball background, playing/coaching, so trying to adjust. Soothing to see a good player like you has these struggles, good video, talking things through! 👍
I definitely relate. Been playing disc golf for 3 years, came from a baseball background so I naturally had a serviceable forehand. I’ve only recently developed into 350+ with my backhand. Really looking forward to these episode.
I'd watch anything you post, Trevor. I'd probably watch a video of you watching paint dry. Let's gooo.
vid #2, lets go Trevor. i am in the same boat with my forehand. any time i try to push it out much past 200' i let the nose get higher and send it into the woods.
i did just play my league round saturday and was throwing a FH all over fools - but i've had good days in the past too. Id love to see some more of these videos as well as some coaching and interviews. either way we will keep supporting you as long as you keep doing you. God Bless
A lot of good advice here in the comments. When throwing high speeds flat, I'm not afraid to push the disc pretty wide on the follow through. Keep it flat and push it with your hip. This mindset helps me keep it flat throughout the throw. Hope it helps
Really like the vibe Trevor! What changed my forehand game the most was 2 things; grip it harder and being aware of the backswing (using a "windmill backswing" instead of a "pendelum"), credits to Stokely!
Great one to learn the sidearm from. Senior Scott had the best one around for a long, long time.
“Sorry if I didn’t respond to your comment” Trevor my guy 99% of people here don’t care we just enjoy watching you do your think king
Suoer stoked with this channel! I really can't wait for more. One quick thing i notced u can improve on is zooming in and moving around the camera in editing, some great examples is any of Bodaza, Nate Turner or Broderic videos. I noticed this 6:00 minutes in. Awsome work and like I said can't wait for more
Love the authenticity and joy you show. Would love to hear quick reviews and hot takes on discs that you like (or don’t)
I like the forehand talks, good stuff
Great video. I too have been working on my forehand a lot lately. What has really helped me is practice with understable mids and putters, the logic in base line feels amazing for flicks. its been great for knowing the angles and saved me quite a few strokes where you need the right to left movement but aren't able to throw a backhand
I had to pause 3 minutes in because your experience is exactly like mine. Played baseball all throughout high school (still play as an adult), but forehand has just entirely eluded me as a consistent throw, particularly on drives.
Only piece of advice I would give, as someone still a novice in forehand, is to practice with slightly overstable putters and straight mids with relatively flat tops. Examples I would give are Aviar3 and Mako3, but any brand and model similar to those would be great.
I really enjoyed this video! I cant throw a forehand more than a funky 60 footer, so thanks for this.
I'm a former baseball player forehand only disc golfer. I have pretty good distance, and the thing that always helps me when I want to get more distance is to focus more on flicking my wrist harder, or faster, and less on using my arm to gain that extra speed. Whenever I try to power up with my arm I get less Rpms and distance. But when. I really focus on getting the disc out of my hand faster with more wrist pop I get better distance
From one Trevor to another, loving this new content. This was a great teaching vid.
Awesome, thank you!
Absolutely love the extra Trevor content each week! I'm working on my non-existent forehand right now and this is incredibly helpful! Thank you, Trevor!!
Great video keep it up! Enjoyed watching your learning process and how you worked through your mistakes.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Best piece of advice would be field work with a neutral putter. Start with not much power at all and slowly build up. Also try to find discs that are comfortable for your forehand. I have nukes that I only use for backhand, but a couple that I can also forehand. Try to look for discs that are more flat rather than domey. Flatter discs seem to be better for most golfers forehand.
My best single piece of advice is learn to spin your flippiest disc and still get it to hyzer out to the right and that spin will teach control for all angles and stabilities
Honestly, playing catch using only a forehand is probably the easiest way to improve touch and spin.
Love the video! Super entertaining and well put together.
For reducing wobble, I would try going to a field and throwing flippy putters. Focus on flicking the wrist and throw until you can get them to come out smooth and flat.
Ryan Sheldon has THE best forehand video, and he is the farthest throwing forehand thrower there is. His mechanics are top notch, being a semi-pro baseball pitcher. 600ft+ forehand lasers. His technique is relatively low impact for the amount of force aswell.
Great watch , you said flick 🤣🤙
Excellent video, loving the vibe of this channel! Very cool to see you express yourself differently. No shade on Foundation, still love all you guys! #GoTrev
OT disc golf two types of forehand video solidified the forehand for me. It’s surprising how neutral I can go on hyzer forehands-game changer. I’m using a buzzz or reactor for hyzer FHs.
The forhand you threw on hole 5 should be what you do everytime when you forehand think about this you want to have your fingers pointing in spot where you want the disc to be and I always tell people when I'm teaching them think about throwing your forehand on a table top to keep it level. I like the idea of your own Chanel man keep keeping on brother
One thing i always notice helps with my forehand is to really focus on reaching towards the point im aiming, and then following through. Dont actually stop the swing, but actively think about reaching towards your target before finishing your stroke. 👍👍
I was garbage at forehand and lost a tournament to a forehand specialist, I decided to learn a forehand and the way I learned was starting with the approach and learning my way up.
Berg was my teacher and I learned to throw control angles and power. I took that to the mid and driver.
"they always wanted you to come over the top... didn't look nearly as cool" I felt this in my soul 😂 7:55
So true lol
The amount of work you do with foundation, the fact you find time for your own channel really shows the level of dedication you have. Keep up the good work 💪🏼
Something that really helped me was lining my right hip up with the line I want to throw. Then I drive through with that right hip. Very similar to a football throw, so you're not throwing across your body and can keep the disc on a straight line.
I'm having a lot of the same issues with my forehand and rely on chopping down on it to keep it nose down. The thing that's working for me right now is thinking of the throw like it's a slap rather than a swing of my arm. It's helping me time the hit easier too but still lots of work to be done. Looking forward to see the progress.
I have to agree with this comment, used to have a really good forehand until a shoulder injury forced me to play only backhand for a year. The way I got back into my forehands was to not think of it as a throw, dont overdo a reachback or followthrough, just think of the hit point and throw abunch of 200-250' shots with that small hitpoint and angles as a focus. If you can do that with your honey or some other neutral disc a bunch of times and feel comfortable, then all you have to do is try to hit it abit harder.
Hey Trev loving the channel so far. Recently I’ve grown my forehand distance accuracy etc. how I’ve done that is through picking a hole that is just slighting out of my forehand distance and try to ace it this allows me to make corrections quickly and it’s exciting. P.S your forehand isn’t goated cus you’re throwing the slammer rather than the pig 😂
much love to you trevor. super stoked for you and all your future endeavors. keep up the grind my man
Keep up the great work Trev! Thankyou for your dedication!
I call it a forehand for the same reasons you gave. I have been yelled at by one too many coaches growing up for throwing sidearm haha
I think one simple analysis is that your are dropping into your throwing stance as you are beginning to throw. Try a walk up while your are already into throwing position, so your whole body doesn't have to drop/rotate to get into position before you throw. This should make things more consistent, less variable in stance movement.
I've been a forehand dominant player for 11+years due to shoulder injuries. I max around ~450ft on flat ground. The biggest tip I give to new players is the elbow-hip connection. Let your elbow/arm follow your hip as it rotates through. This is high-impact on your elbow, so if you aren't flexible you won't be able to achieve a good whip. Also, tight pinch, where the disc should be ripping through your lead finger as you release. I have a permanent callus on my middle finger where the disc releases.
i like that you walked from the tee on the hole 18 minutes in. It gave me a better feel for the hole opposed to when the camera just pops to the next shot. I get that you cant do that on all the holes but would be nice on the tighter lanes.
Yo I watch In the Bag religiously. On your episode when you were describing your desired flight out of an overstable throwing putter I thought about the Jokeri from produscus. It's essentially a more overstable sky god 4 with a lower shoulder and puddle top so it feels way more shallow. I'm convinced if you tried one, you'd love it!
Bogey Bros has made me go out and have rounds like this where i create a format to follow during my game in order to practice certain skills.
Forehand vs backhand games are the most common for me, also right hand vs. Left hand.
Anyway, these types of rounds really help me out, so its good to see Trevor doing them.
I struggle with forehands as well. And I’m a baseball guy, too. I tend to turn them over too much or throw way nose up.
Here from the start baby!!!!!
Quick tip for filming shots especially if you're looking for feedback: make sure your feet are in the frame so we can see the footwork/run up, that can be just as critical as upper body stuff
I've learned two lessons while trying to get better forehand.
I used to be like you and liked to throw a bit overstable disc to get flex flight. But I tore my abdominal muscle last week because I was lacking follow through. :(
How I learned how to throw flat/ hyzer with disc:
I just started throwing understable discs. For me it's Neo Essence.
Now I can flick/ throw my essence/ worn G-line PD any place and hit 90-100meters and it has helped me throw stable distance drivers (DD3, Destroyer, wraiths) flat/ hyzer further.
You are an inspiration to me and I will forever support anything you do Mr. Staub
Thank you so much Frank!
You're welcome and thank you for everything you do for us trevor
Love this bro I call the forehand a pistol 😂😂
I want to see you grow. Foundation is great for the fun videos. I want to see your struggle to improve so I can learn lessons while not making the same mistakes :P
Love the more casual/conversational style of these first 2 vids, keep it up Travis!
Hey Trevor, love the content! I come from a baseball background myself and so had the same issues you mentioned with your forehand. What I found was I was trying to throw it like a baseball which is a very different mechanic. However if I switched to thinking similar to a baseball swing (bc your arm is moving in a very similar motion when swinging a bat) I found the right spin on the disc and not leaving the nose up as with a baseball swing you roll your wrists over, do the same at the end release of your forehand. I also started instead of holding the disc out to my side flat like I see you doing, I would bring it up next to my face like where the barrel of the bay would be with the swing and then go through that motion. Hopefully that helps! If you have any questions let me know!
Thanks for the tips!
One note for follow through with forehands: make sure you get your right leg through when you follow through. When you keep that right foot planted, all your power stops at the hips. When you release the disc, let your right leg lift up and allow your body to do a full turn like a backhand, it will help your power immensely.
Can relate… the best forehand guy in my area, constantly says he concentrates the most on the disc coming off his finger on line. Seems to work for me.
A couple of tips. Try standstill drives and upshots to develop your form and throw a little less stable discs to develop your touch. Something like a 10 speed with -1 2 or -2 2 should be good.
That miss at 12:04 is my main miss as well. Because it happens so often I basically don’t throw forehands anymore. But… last week we just got a brand new very wooded course that requires a good forehand so I realized I NEED to figure it out. Thanks for the video, great timing!!
Also, I too played baseball then softball but I was an outfielder and I think that’s why I roll my wrist so much bc I’m used to thespian 3/4 to completely over the top and needing to put a lot of spin on the ball.
Love the transparency and honest reactions to your game. Keep up the great work!
Good work Trevor!
I loved this round. Honestly talking through it can help me and others improve their forehands too. I only throw forehand and one thing I am good at is throwing very clean (no wobble forehands). I can only throw just over 300ft with my drivers (typically 10 speeds) so take my advice with a grain of salt. But I have been working on my follow through as well and also angle one thing that helps with both is thinking about my wrist and even forearm going through at the angle I want the disc to release on as I’m throwing. I throw lots of hyzer flips because I like flippy stuff and it also lets me know if I roll my wrist. Another thing I have been doing is deciding the angle of release before throwing instead of midshot (don’t ever decide midshot). Then even if the shot goes to a bad spot but I hit my angle I’m not upset with the shot. This also helps me learn my discs more.
Sorry for the paragraph you probably won’t read but I love talking disc golf and working through things with people.
Great videos like that you are doing videos on your own. Would love to play a round with you if you ever make it to the Savannah Georgia area!!
I played baseball/adult softball for 35 years and my forehand was terrible. I was playing league earlier this year and a guy gave me a tip to "snap" my fingers when releasing. It increased the spin dramatically and I can now get 300' + on my FH throws. I also stopped using OS discs and focused on US discs. My Sidewinder and Wave are my go-tos. With US discs you have to be smooth or else it's burning into the ground. If I really want to get into a throw now I will use a halo Destroyer to crank on it.
Can’t wait to sit down and watch this. Desperately need this in my game.
Might be too much post-production work, but have you ever considered putting the name/manufacturer/flight numbers of the disc you are throwing up in the the corner of the screen before each throw? Would help familiarize us beginners with the various discs and reinforce what you are trying to do throw-wise. Could also insert a pic of the disc and maybe even the release angle you are attempting--hyzer, anhyzer, flat.