you are the best teaching youtuber out there. I would love to see a program made for a beginner. Like a workout to get your form down. For example day one fotwork, day 2 rotation and so on. I think that the technique is the most important thing. Learn that first and then learn to play. Also a video of mental game and chosing shoots would be amazing
I can vouch for this guy. I booked a private training session from him around 2,5 years ago and it improved my technique significantly. Not right after the session of course, but he was able to pinpoint the issues in my "throw" which I then practiced
Wow this is great stuff! Drill feel very powerful, I can’t wait to get out and try this as soon as I’m able. Also really appreciate the English video my friend!
This is what we needed. Finally. Thank you. I’m so sick of a billion overcomplicated videos. Im 2 years in, can get 375 with shit form and literally hundreds of hours of field work from other videos and zero distance. This actually makes sense and seems doable
This drill really works ! Not only will you get a natural way to feel the Lag but you can even see it ! I had to adjust about 10cm to keep the package together and I did that adjustment by pushing my front leg to the ground more just as Spin Doctor teaches in other videos. This is the only video here in this TH-cam wormhole that worked for me for this issue.
Your ability to dissect the throw and explain the proper footwork required to make this happen is amazing. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us and keep up the good work!
Been playing serious for a little over a year and a lot this year i have been working on form and just field work all summer. Just learning a proper xstep and this is some of the best content on the x step and plant foot. Really need to dig in. Im a lefty BH.
Just wanted to say thank you. I've been playing like 14 years and your vids like this one have helped me immensely with getting actual snap. Your vids do a great job of keeping you from focusing on the wrong things.
This is super important, m'kay. If you don't believe it is, try the following: throw a left arm punch with your right leg in the air. Now, throw the same punch with your right leg planted and you get the point.
Another English video, wohoo! Nice. On my way to listen now. Edit: Seems promising, I'll do this for sure. Many thanks and looking forward to more videos from you :]
Very good video. Damn. I feel like I just figured this out by myself, even starting my upper body rotating and extension of my disc outward after my toe has hit the ground, that way when my heel hits I'm fully loaded and springing forward. I cant throw 500 but I can hit 400 on command.
I really liked the slingshot discgolf channel until I seen this. I tend to overcomplicate things sometimes. But the way you simplified body movement changed my game in a matter of an hour. And that wasn't even physically practicing. it was a mental thing.
Thank you for the videos. I'll try this next time I do field work. I honestly think I need a coach or clinic. I think I learn better that way. Road to 400'
Hello DG Spin, just want to say thank you for all the great content. I actually purchased the "Slingshot" course, and found no help there, was all confused with back foot and a 'double move'. I've found your videos to be so much more helpful and just wanted to drop a thanks. If you have a patreon page or something let me know, would love a form review!
@@dgspindoctor oh no I've been called out...we ended up playing this super short course and I didn't practice it yet. I did tell them about it though 😅
@@dgspindoctor so update, I think I like it? I obviously need to keep working on it. I wasn't able to get a distance increase but it felt okay to do and my flights were very smooth
I tried doing this a lot before. I listened to the advice to time my reachback to planting my front foot ( or planting slightly before ). Problem is all the weight went on my front leg and I started getting knee pain. It is so hard to release the brace correctly when my center of gravity had so much time to drift forward. Now I've started trying to begin my rotation earlier my timing my hips and off arm. Now watching this video I might point out that on the Paul breakdown, his off arm is already going in even though he's not "fully" planted. Sure you have to wait and be patient. But that only works if your throwing mechanics are fast enough to complete before your weight drifts too far forward. This problem led to me always rotating on my front leg with the leg bent. Couldn't for the life of me get how people rotate on a straight leg. But now it happens naturally to me. If I rotate earlier, my body is farther back from my front leg, and my leg is naturally straight because I'm farther back. All this came from trying to rotate earlier, not being patient. Maybe it's worth differentiating between being patient with the throwing arm vs everything else. That is what lag is i assume. Planting is the first, then off arm swings in and hips go, then the arm goes. So the arm is last like you say, but just resting in that state seems wrong to me. Any comment?
I hate to say this, but I think Paul is little early. He knows his stuff (surprise!) and does everything amazingly, but he is early compared to even bigger arms like GG, Eagle and Ezra.
Great concept, I already have an idea... it is hard to be told "don't look down" and not look down, because the terms have been defined as a binary of look or no look. SO it is better to say "look to the right" as in replace the unwanted thing with something else instead of just simply removing it alone. In this case, replacing the early throwing action with the left arm motion to compress more mass into the center will be easier than removing the early throw without doing anything else. In other words, it's easier to do something than nothing.
I really love your videos! You made me break the 400 feet with your domino video! I would love to see those video clips (here it's Paul McBeth) in full lenght and normal speed. I also missed this in your 5 min reviews. Would be great if you would show them before you analyze the throws. Greetings :)
The concept is to find a solid base from which to throw from. The front leg is that. Once it's firmly on the ground, go against it and let the physics take over. Muscle power are very little used here. :)
The point of upper body movemnet and snap is to wait the weight sift. The upper body has to move if you wait enough because you just can not prevent your upper body to follow!
I would like someone to break a backhandthrow into molecules. I mean a Video that goes trough everything in the right order. Not detailed how to do everything right, but the order of everything. Every single movement, balanceshift, breathe, musclework, yeah everything. That can maybe help us to understand the things we have to work on, and help us to understand the worth of timing better.
I am not the one to do that. Why? Because you don't need to know all of this. When you start to think about breathing or microscopic musclework, you sink into paralysis by analysis. And then you end up being a TH-cam coach and screw up your playing career. Oh wait, that's me I'm talking about...
Simple and concise. I tried waiting longer in my plant and felt much more power. Sometimes the powerful ones released to the right, but I don’t consider myself an over the top thrower. Any idea why they may be going right sometimes?? I was throwing putters 300’ and it felt easier than normal. Thanks
Usually for three reasons: 1. You rotated too soon and much with the upperbody so that the shoulders opened. 2. Your stance wasn't staggered enough and the hips opened too soon. 3. You pulled the disc diagonally from left to right with the scapula. Assuming you are a righty.
Ok all I can say is that i was born a superbly gifted athlete, odds are a few degrees above your abilities. However I did subscribe because like you I to am a Finn, however I am also Irish. What makes me a bad ass is the fact that mama was a Lehtinen lots of Sisu and puukko knife for Ruskies.
you are the best teaching youtuber out there. I would love to see a program made for a beginner. Like a workout to get your form down. For example day one fotwork, day 2 rotation and so on. I think that the technique is the most important thing. Learn that first and then learn to play. Also a video of mental game and chosing shoots would be amazing
Thanks man!
Dude. Your content is by far the best explanation on TH-cam for disc golf form. By a long shot
I can vouch for this guy. I booked a private training session from him around 2,5 years ago and it improved my technique significantly. Not right after the session of course, but he was able to pinpoint the issues in my "throw" which I then practiced
Please keep making these tip videos. You know what you’re doing. Thank you Dr Spin
Wow this is great stuff! Drill feel very powerful, I can’t wait to get out and try this as soon as I’m able. Also really appreciate the English video my friend!
This is what we needed. Finally. Thank you. I’m so sick of a billion overcomplicated videos. Im 2 years in, can get 375 with shit form and literally hundreds of hours of field work from other videos and zero distance. This actually makes sense and seems doable
Just wait, wait, wait until the weight shift is done. Then throw. It feels super slow at first, but once you get it, throwing has never felt easier.
This drill really works ! Not only will you get a natural way to feel the Lag but you can even see it ! I had to adjust about 10cm to keep the package together and I did that adjustment by pushing my front leg to the ground more just as Spin Doctor teaches in other videos. This is the only video here in this TH-cam wormhole that worked for me for this issue.
Your ability to dissect the throw and explain the proper footwork required to make this happen is amazing. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us and keep up the good work!
Been playing serious for a little over a year and a lot this year i have been working on form and just field work all summer. Just learning a proper xstep and this is some of the best content on the x step and plant foot. Really need to dig in. Im a lefty BH.
Keep it up!
Learn by exaggerating. Such good advice! This is only my second video of yours that I have watched and I've already learned so much. Thank you!
Just wanted to say thank you. I've been playing like 14 years and your vids like this one have helped me immensely with getting actual snap. Your vids do a great job of keeping you from focusing on the wrong things.
Glad I can help!
Yes.
One way to think about throwing: don't throw at all. Just plant and let things happen automatically. The throw will happen when it needs to.
I wouldn't go that far, but something in the lines, yes.
This is super important, m'kay. If you don't believe it is, try the following: throw a left arm punch with your right leg in the air. Now, throw the same punch with your right leg planted and you get the point.
Another English video, wohoo! Nice. On my way to listen now.
Edit: Seems promising, I'll do this for sure. Many thanks and looking forward to more videos from you :]
Best backhand practice drill I have ever seen.
Extraordinary instruction in this video. My first experience to this channel and I am now subscribed. Thanks!
Commenting solely because I know this give the video a boost. Phenomenal stuff I learn a ton from your videos
As good a reason to comment as any!
Very good video. Damn. I feel like I just figured this out by myself, even starting my upper body rotating and extension of my disc outward after my toe has hit the ground, that way when my heel hits I'm fully loaded and springing forward. I cant throw 500 but I can hit 400 on command.
I really liked the slingshot discgolf channel until I seen this. I tend to overcomplicate things sometimes. But the way you simplified body movement changed my game in a matter of an hour. And that wasn't even physically practicing. it was a mental thing.
Dude, it's all mental after you know the basics. You gotta let go and stop controlling.
I agree sir
Such an informative video to watch during the winter. Thanks so much.
Thank you for the videos. I'll try this next time I do field work. I honestly think I need a coach or clinic. I think I learn better that way. Road to 400'
Fantastic stuff. I’ll be working on this immediately.
Thank you for the great video!
This looks like a dance move. I'm terrible at dancing but hope I can get this drill down!
Always great content and tips
You da the man keep it up and thanks
I know what I’m doing today! You’re the man!!!
Wonderful!
And for that I thank you sir! Oh and it wasn't an hour it was more like after the first video, but then I watched most of the rest
Hello DG Spin, just want to say thank you for all the great content. I actually purchased the "Slingshot" course, and found no help there, was all confused with back foot and a 'double move'. I've found your videos to be so much more helpful and just wanted to drop a thanks. If you have a patreon page or something let me know, would love a form review!
Your Teaching Works for low arm speeds with Players Built like PMcB.
I’m built like the Hamburgler
Haha, ooookkay...
Going to play tomorrow, cant wait to try this
How was it?
@@dgspindoctor oh no I've been called out...we ended up playing this super short course and I didn't practice it yet. I did tell them about it though 😅
Ha, no worries!
@@dgspindoctor so update, I think I like it? I obviously need to keep working on it. I wasn't able to get a distance increase but it felt okay to do and my flights were very smooth
I tried doing this a lot before. I listened to the advice to time my reachback to planting my front foot ( or planting slightly before ). Problem is all the weight went on my front leg and I started getting knee pain. It is so hard to release the brace correctly when my center of gravity had so much time to drift forward. Now I've started trying to begin my rotation earlier my timing my hips and off arm. Now watching this video I might point out that on the Paul breakdown, his off arm is already going in even though he's not "fully" planted. Sure you have to wait and be patient. But that only works if your throwing mechanics are fast enough to complete before your weight drifts too far forward.
This problem led to me always rotating on my front leg with the leg bent. Couldn't for the life of me get how people rotate on a straight leg. But now it happens naturally to me. If I rotate earlier, my body is farther back from my front leg, and my leg is naturally straight because I'm farther back. All this came from trying to rotate earlier, not being patient. Maybe it's worth differentiating between being patient with the throwing arm vs everything else. That is what lag is i assume. Planting is the first, then off arm swings in and hips go, then the arm goes. So the arm is last like you say, but just resting in that state seems wrong to me. Any comment?
I hate to say this, but I think Paul is little early. He knows his stuff (surprise!) and does everything amazingly, but he is early compared to even bigger arms like GG, Eagle and Ezra.
@@dgspindoctor fair enough! I’ll take a look at some other pros and continue working on it
For me the pinnacle of timing and form in general is Will Schusterick before his injuries, so about 2014 and 2015. He has everything in place.
@@dgspindoctor ill take a look thanks!
Nut cracking danger! It happend to me, doing the drill multiple times, befor throwing a hard throw.. 😮 never used the drill again😅
Great concept, I already have an idea... it is hard to be told "don't look down" and not look down, because the terms have been defined as a binary of look or no look.
SO it is better to say "look to the right" as in replace the unwanted thing with something else instead of just simply removing it alone.
In this case, replacing the early throwing action with the left arm motion to compress more mass into the center will be easier than removing the early throw without doing anything else.
In other words, it's easier to do something than nothing.
Paul proves it: it is not the throw that begins before the plant, but rather the left arm compression begins before the plant.
I really love your videos! You made me break the 400 feet with your domino video! I would love to see those video clips (here it's Paul McBeth) in full lenght and normal speed. I also missed this in your 5 min reviews. Would be great if you would show them before you analyze the throws. Greetings :)
Glad you like them! I will keep this in mind.
Great content, and really appreciating the english videos 🙏
Excellent! Thanks!
Yes! Crush the can!
when you finally threw at the end you resembled ezra aderhold.
That's too much, not in this life time! :)
Great video and drill.
Interesting concept here def going to try this out. I haven't played since 2019 and would like to acquire a pain free throw this time around.
The concept is to find a solid base from which to throw from. The front leg is that. Once it's firmly on the ground, go against it and let the physics take over. Muscle power are very little used here. :)
@@dgspindoctor appreciate you I look forward to checking out more of your videos. You are very well spoken as well.
Earned a sub. Great explanation/drill
fantastic, thank you!
Will you ever be doing a video on snap and the upper body mechanics? Thanks
The point of upper body movemnet and snap is to wait the weight sift. The upper body has to move if you wait enough because you just can not prevent your upper body to follow!
I would like someone to break a backhandthrow into molecules. I mean a Video that goes trough everything in the right order. Not detailed how to do everything right, but the order of everything. Every single movement, balanceshift, breathe, musclework, yeah everything. That can maybe help us to understand the things we have to work on, and help us to understand the worth of timing better.
I am not the one to do that. Why? Because you don't need to know all of this. When you start to think about breathing or microscopic musclework, you sink into paralysis by analysis. And then you end up being a TH-cam coach and screw up your playing career. Oh wait, that's me I'm talking about...
Thanks for the english vid!
When Vinnie sweeps his back foot you can really hear it
Trying to work this in as I'm having a really hard time breaking pulling with the upper body vs letting the weight transfer happen naturally.
My next one will be about bracing and tackling the wall.
@@dgspindoctor Can't wait these videos are helping a ton to think differently about the throw
Simple and concise. I tried waiting longer in my plant and felt much more power. Sometimes the powerful ones released to the right, but I don’t consider myself an over the top thrower.
Any idea why they may be going right sometimes?? I was throwing putters 300’ and it felt easier than normal.
Thanks
Usually for three reasons:
1. You rotated too soon and much with the upperbody so that the shoulders opened.
2. Your stance wasn't staggered enough and the hips opened too soon.
3. You pulled the disc diagonally from left to right with the scapula.
Assuming you are a righty.
@@dgspindoctor right on, my guess is plant or early rotation. Thanks
dg fleek doctor thank you
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So basically slingshot is a overcomplicater. In my opinion.
That is a very nice way to describe his method. :)
I feel like this is gonna be a huge AHA moment for me
Let's hope so!
on se kova!
@0:47
those chemtrails tho
How do I send you a form video to get some feedback?
Instagram. My DM is crowded, so can't promise anything.
At about 4:50 you can really see the problem illustrated.
This drill is not working for me. I don't believe the back leg is weightless at all when the throw starts.
It totally should be.
You should be making more videos in English, your English is phenomenal!
Thanks! I will, as soon as I get some time to get back at this.
The hard part is getting the timing so you're not waiting fulling coiled.
Ok all I can say is that i was born a superbly gifted athlete, odds are a few degrees above your abilities. However I did subscribe because like you I to am a Finn, however I am also Irish. What makes me a bad ass is the fact that mama was a Lehtinen lots of Sisu and puukko knife for Ruskies.
Yeah blood my timing is a bit off Ok later Holmes
Dr. Spin... Throwing out.
I like it
I get the feeling he is a highly trained military veteran.
Devoted pacifist, but I take this as a compliment. 🙂
Such good stuff! Thank you!