🛑READ THIS BEFORE COMMENTING 👇 1. Keep Russia/politics out of it. Stick to discussing cars, even if you disagree. As soon as I've eased out on the warnings and upfront disclaimers, people seem to have thought it's ok to bash Russian origin of my translations and bring in some kind of other vibes into my comments that have something to do with Russia's current unfavourable political image in the World. Please stop it, stick to discussing cars. I'll ban people without any warning and we'll all miss out on your wisdom. Don't make me do it, we'll all miss you (not really lol). 2. Yes, Chery cars *HAVE* improved over the past 2 years - this translated material *IS* 2 years old. But they are still not high enough quality for me to pretend that $40K+ AUD is an acceptable price for a vehicle like this in our market. 🤷♀ 3. More translations are coming, whether YOU PERSONALLY like it or not. Many others do. And I think these foreign videos contain something our English-speaking echo chamber of same-same reviewers don't. Have something else to say? You don't have to agree, as I keep saying, just don't be an absolutist d1ck about it.
Well, I just bought the new 2024 Tiggo 7 pro. I have a friend who owns one too with 40k on the clock. No issues like what you’re describing… Before this, I owned a VW sedan 2023 model Life. The 1st year one of the wheel baring’s needed to be replaced. 2nd 1 month after the EPC light came on and the car stalled and couldn’t go above 1500rpm. They couldn’t find the fault and needed to replace the computer box. 1 werk after that the discbreaks needed to be replaced and then I decided to sell. All these problems you’re referring to, is it only this vehicle or are there multiple owners that has the same problems? Also, the rubber marks on the inside of the doors, same thing with VW. Every production car company out there tries to spare a buck. The reason why the Chinese can get more out of their vehicles, is that most of their production happens “in house”. And cheap labour obviously. Same as cars that were made in India. Which was the case with my VW. With all due respect, we don’t know how many times you’ve driven gravel roads. 😂 Anyway, these days most cars have their faults and nothing will ever be perfect. Here in South Africa we’re crushing numbers and we need vehicles like this for a good price. 😊 But non of this is applicable if you plan to stade in after 2-3 years. ✌️
I'm not describing anything. I'm translating what the owner said about this particular vehicle. Watch the video, listen to what I'm saying, then try and defend your purchase.
Because Cherry vehicles are top sellers in my country and no complaints yet as regards build and interior quality ... maybe the ones sent oz are a different spec with lower trim but in SA we only get the best @@ValueCarsAU
Chinese manufacturers produce two kinds of cars . - home consumption - export consumption The export is of a better quality to be able to compete with Europeans cars and the standard demanded by the overseas buyers . Home consumption cars have a life expectancy as stated by the manufacturer ( most) of max of 5 years . I think cars sent to Russia is as per home consumption quality, cheaply made .
It's possible mate, but we are guessing here. I simply present the facts that the foreign "trailblazers" are sharing. Would I personally trust the brand that produces low quality product for overseas export? Probably not. AND there are great examples of companies that don't do that - such as GWM. This is a point for idiots who say I bash Chinese cars. There's Chinese and there's Chinese.
@@ValueCarsAU GWM is a good brand . When I say Chinese manufacturing has two levels of production ,I know so as been reading articles from overseas people that live in China and they also say , life span of cars there made not to last over 5 years
This saying usually means that you got something cheaply, and it turned out to be crap. Here, we're dealing with a 40,000+ AUD car. It's not "you get what you pay for". It's expensive.
Honestly, Chery is for those who are buying into a product which we know it's not at the standard of hardcore offroaders like Toyota and others. I also notice that's not an AWD but it looks like the driver is from camp, there's no off-road mode in that car. Chery only promised a family SUV anyways. I bought the car and prepared to take it to the dealership to be fixed under warranty cover every year, if needs be. That's what I bought
I think this particular example must have been a car assembled at a Chery plant in Russia, to lower standards. I don't think this owner was using it for purposes much different from what the SUV is advertised for, but overall, clearly it didn't leave up to their expectations.
That's according to me is not true I've got tiggo 7 pro for 1 year 8month still new paint still the same the way I bought no cracks the guy sorry to say that is careless with the car my car is like I bought it yesterday.
Great to hear mate. As opposed to the popular belief, I'm not here to bash any brands or promote them blindly either. I look for valid arguments on both ends of the spectrum.
I decided against the 7 Pro as I was upset that they bought in the model with the cheap fake looking plastic (in front of the passenger seat) instead of the model they get in (right hand drive) South Africa that has beautiful (fake) leather right across the dashboard
Yeah I understand mate, I've only seen the version they have here and the one they've disassembled in Russia - strange that Chery exports 2 different versions + has 1 yet another version for Chinese internal market. 🤷♀️
Can you explain: Tiggo 7 is of poor quality, why are Chery’s sales increasing in the Russian market? The price is getting more and more expensive? The total sales volume of the tiggo, exeed, omoda, arrizo, and jetour brands affiliated to Chery Automobile Group ranks first in Russia. Any sane person knows that everything you tell is a lie. At the same time, I give you a piece of advice: don’t make random comments about Chinese brands that you don’t understand. This will only make you more naive and ignorant.
Hello, happy to explain. Sales on the Russian market are increasing due to 2 reasons: 1 - sanctions against the other brands/by the other countries. 2 - there is *some* increase of quality and the range of the offering. Leading brand there is Geely, that combines quality and the right price combination. Followed by GWM. That combines quality and the right price combination. I'll give you a piece of advice, since you were kind enough to give me yours. Don't make random comments about Russian market when you a). don't speak Russian and don't understand the context, and b). when you work or somehow are interested in promotion of Chery brand. It makes you look more naive, ignorant and financially interested in selling an inferior product on our market in AU. Take feedback and criticism from the REAL OWNERS with some grace. It'll do you good.
@@darroncrick9993This low-grade personal attack is not funny at all. If you have doubts about the quality of Chery's products, you can use the artificial intelligence tool developed by Americans: chatgp4 to consult it about the global sales and quality of Chery cars.
are cherys in russia import from china or made there ? chery products are made (assembly) in my country and they have a bad build quality. but brand new they are cheaper than some used korean or japanese stuff. like santafe for example. and they have fancy options thats why people go for it
@@SergeiOzerov hmm so it seems like even the ones made in china have a bad built. I mean the ones made in my country are build bad and with minimum tech. Like even the paint is being done by human hands not robot
@@SergeiOzerov well good for you. But most people i know have big issues like body panel gaps. Water getting into headlight in a brand new car. Or very bad paint quality as i said and most of them all engine and transmission issues. The engine basically cant work with the garbage petrol we have and the cvts on them usually go wrong around 70 80k kilometers and costs alot to fix
I think you are doing a disservice to Chery here, you can't use one person's opinion as the truth, a better way is to get reviews from many owners and get an average of people's opinions and experiences. In South Africa here you have hundreds of owners, some of whom have had this car for more than a year. His experience could be an anomaly. There is also the issue of Climate differences.. cold climates vs warm climates. This is the danger of a single story.
A disservice? Do you think I work for them or something? I review and translate whatever resonates with me. I also published A LOT of videos about Chery vehicles, some praising, some revealing flaws. Not sure what you expected from a non-sponsored channel that doesn't have overlords.
🛑READ THIS BEFORE COMMENTING 👇
1. Keep Russia/politics out of it. Stick to discussing cars, even if you disagree.
As soon as I've eased out on the warnings and upfront disclaimers, people seem to have thought it's ok to bash Russian origin of my translations and bring in some kind of other vibes into my comments that have something to do with Russia's current unfavourable political image in the World.
Please stop it, stick to discussing cars. I'll ban people without any warning and we'll all miss out on your wisdom. Don't make me do it, we'll all miss you (not really lol).
2. Yes, Chery cars *HAVE* improved over the past 2 years - this translated material *IS* 2 years old. But they are still not high enough quality for me to pretend that $40K+ AUD is an acceptable price for a vehicle like this in our market. 🤷♀
3. More translations are coming, whether YOU PERSONALLY like it or not. Many others do. And I think these foreign videos contain something our English-speaking echo chamber of same-same reviewers don't.
Have something else to say? You don't have to agree, as I keep saying, just don't be an absolutist d1ck about it.
No politics I'm not a politician is honest truth.
He wasn't talking to you, he was just saying it as a general statement 😂 @@hssello
Well, I just bought the new 2024 Tiggo 7 pro. I have a friend who owns one too with 40k on the clock. No issues like what you’re describing… Before this, I owned a VW sedan 2023 model Life. The 1st year one of the wheel baring’s needed to be replaced. 2nd 1 month after the EPC light came on and the car stalled and couldn’t go above 1500rpm. They couldn’t find the fault and needed to replace the computer box. 1 werk after that the discbreaks needed to be replaced and then I decided to sell. All these problems you’re referring to, is it only this vehicle or are there multiple owners that has the same problems? Also, the rubber marks on the inside of the doors, same thing with VW. Every production car company out there tries to spare a buck. The reason why the Chinese can get more out of their vehicles, is that most of their production happens “in house”. And cheap labour obviously. Same as cars that were made in India. Which was the case with my VW. With all due respect, we don’t know how many times you’ve driven gravel roads. 😂 Anyway, these days most cars have their faults and nothing will ever be perfect. Here in South Africa we’re crushing numbers and we need vehicles like this for a good price. 😊 But non of this is applicable if you plan to stade in after 2-3 years. ✌️
I'm not describing anything. I'm translating what the owner said about this particular vehicle. Watch the video, listen to what I'm saying, then try and defend your purchase.
@@ValueCarsAU Well I guess he had some bad luck. Like I had with my VW. It happens. And I didn’t go and make a video about it…
In South Africa none of these problems for Tiggo... All Chery models flying off showroom floors and no issues for the past 2 almost 3 years
Are you a dealer? Otherwise, how would you be so certain "there are no issues for the past 2 years"? 🤷♀️🤣
Because Cherry vehicles are top sellers in my country and no complaints yet as regards build and interior quality ... maybe the ones sent oz are a different spec with lower trim but in SA we only get the best @@ValueCarsAU
Chinese manufacturers produce two kinds of cars .
- home consumption
- export consumption
The export is of a better quality to be able to compete with Europeans cars and the standard demanded by the overseas buyers .
Home consumption cars have a life expectancy as stated by the manufacturer ( most) of max of 5 years .
I think cars sent to Russia is as per home consumption quality, cheaply made .
It's possible mate, but we are guessing here. I simply present the facts that the foreign "trailblazers" are sharing. Would I personally trust the brand that produces low quality product for overseas export? Probably not. AND there are great examples of companies that don't do that - such as GWM. This is a point for idiots who say I bash Chinese cars. There's Chinese and there's Chinese.
@@ValueCarsAU GWM is a good brand . When I say Chinese manufacturing has two levels of production ,I know so as been reading articles from overseas people that live in China and they also say , life span of cars there made not to last over 5 years
It could be true before, but not in the recent years. And European car’s quality are going down hill.
You get what you pay for easy..👍👍👍
This saying usually means that you got something cheaply, and it turned out to be crap. Here, we're dealing with a 40,000+ AUD car. It's not "you get what you pay for". It's expensive.
Honestly, Chery is for those who are buying into a product which we know it's not at the standard of hardcore offroaders like Toyota and others. I also notice that's not an AWD but it looks like the driver is from camp, there's no off-road mode in that car. Chery only promised a family SUV anyways. I bought the car and prepared to take it to the dealership to be fixed under warranty cover every year, if needs be. That's what I bought
I think this particular example must have been a car assembled at a Chery plant in Russia, to lower standards. I don't think this owner was using it for purposes much different from what the SUV is advertised for, but overall, clearly it didn't leave up to their expectations.
That's according to me is not true I've got tiggo 7 pro for 1 year 8month still new paint still the same the way I bought no cracks the guy sorry to say that is careless with the car my car is like I bought it yesterday.
Great to hear mate. As opposed to the popular belief, I'm not here to bash any brands or promote them blindly either. I look for valid arguments on both ends of the spectrum.
It maybe because of how it was maintained vis a vis the weather / environment condition
Or just unlucky to got a bad quality stock 😢
Could be both mate, I don't disagree...
I decided against the 7 Pro as I was upset that they bought in the model with the cheap fake looking plastic (in front of the passenger seat) instead of the model they get in (right hand drive) South Africa that has beautiful (fake) leather right across the dashboard
Yeah I understand mate, I've only seen the version they have here and the one they've disassembled in Russia - strange that Chery exports 2 different versions + has 1 yet another version for Chinese internal market. 🤷♀️
They have improved though, this is 2 years old, everyone online says every car has issues.
They probably have, I'm just sharing what I found interesting. There's more where this came from, both good and bad.
Can you explain: Tiggo 7 is of poor quality, why are Chery’s sales increasing in the Russian market? The price is getting more and more expensive? The total sales volume of the tiggo, exeed, omoda, arrizo, and jetour brands affiliated to Chery Automobile Group ranks first in Russia. Any sane person knows that everything you tell is a lie. At the same time, I give you a piece of advice: don’t make random comments about Chinese brands that you don’t understand. This will only make you more naive and ignorant.
Hello, happy to explain. Sales on the Russian market are increasing due to 2 reasons:
1 - sanctions against the other brands/by the other countries.
2 - there is *some* increase of quality and the range of the offering. Leading brand there is Geely, that combines quality and the right price combination. Followed by GWM. That combines quality and the right price combination.
I'll give you a piece of advice, since you were kind enough to give me yours. Don't make random comments about Russian market when you a). don't speak Russian and don't understand the context, and b). when you work or somehow are interested in promotion of Chery brand.
It makes you look more naive, ignorant and financially interested in selling an inferior product on our market in AU. Take feedback and criticism from the REAL OWNERS with some grace. It'll do you good.
@@ValueCarsAU Interesting phrasing from Mr.Villain. Chinese bot maybe?
@@darroncrick9993This low-grade personal attack is not funny at all. If you have doubts about the quality of Chery's products, you can use the artificial intelligence tool developed by Americans: chatgp4 to consult it about the global sales and quality of Chery cars.
I decided against buying the Chery Tiggo 7 Pro Max after watching this video. Ended up opting for the Haval H6 AWD Lux.
In all honesty, if both cost the same (I haven't checked) imho you've made the right choice
Nice car 😍
I honestly don't think so. It would have been, for $30k AUD
@@ValueCarsAU in my country $23k .
are cherys in russia import from china or made there ? chery products are made (assembly) in my country and they have a bad build quality. but brand new they are cheaper than some used korean or japanese stuff. like santafe for example. and they have fancy options thats why people go for it
It's a good question and I honestly don't know.
Imported. But there are talks of starting production in Russia
@@SergeiOzerov hmm so it seems like even the ones made in china have a bad built. I mean the ones made in my country are build bad and with minimum tech. Like even the paint is being done by human hands not robot
@@mr.knight1359 They are built fine. Own 2 Chery Tiggos. 2 year and 1 year. No issues with them
@@SergeiOzerov well good for you. But most people i know have big issues like body panel gaps. Water getting into headlight in a brand new car. Or very bad paint quality as i said and most of them all engine and transmission issues. The engine basically cant work with the garbage petrol we have and the cvts on them usually go wrong around 70 80k kilometers and costs alot to fix
This model isn't what was brought to Australia. The model that was brought to Australia has been improved significantly.
Let's hope so mate. Another (disassembly) video will be revealed in a couple of hours, let me know your thoughts after you watch that one
You can't buy any cars if you start to dk micro checking
huh?
I think you are doing a disservice to Chery here, you can't use one person's opinion as the truth, a better way is to get reviews from many owners and get an average of people's opinions and experiences. In South Africa here you have hundreds of owners, some of whom have had this car for more than a year. His experience could be an anomaly. There is also the issue of Climate differences.. cold climates vs warm climates. This is the danger of a single story.
A disservice? Do you think I work for them or something? I review and translate whatever resonates with me. I also published A LOT of videos about Chery vehicles, some praising, some revealing flaws. Not sure what you expected from a non-sponsored channel that doesn't have overlords.
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Use Google translate, don't be lazy