“Our punches are tight, our range is right, we’re in and out, we’re treating this thing like a real fight with our movement and strikes”- icy mike got that fire too 🔥🔥BARS🔥🔥
Mike is the most honest trainers you will ever listen to. Not many people say shit they are not good at in their videos but this guy does it so naturally. It is human nature, we all suck at something, no need to hide it.
Exactly, unless you just stand there and shell up you're open to be hit. People saying "You can't throw x because they'll hit you with y..." is bs. You throw anything you're susceptible to attack.
@@JayR-ct8pv Plus they always think that if you throw something they can always counter .Ok fella,you counter while I throw 4 punches with maximum power from different angles on different sides to different areas
I always think there is a fine line between striving for perfection of technique and paralysis by analysis. I see this alot with the karate community as we are all about perfection of technique. But at the same time some times you just have to throw weird shit that might not be technically correct. I was in sparring match with a boxer where i was getting killed because he's a thousand times better boxer than me but at the end he gave me a nice compliment telling me i kept landing hits at these weird angles forcing him to adjust.
This reminds me a lot of like, Esports fighting games. I play fighting games competitively, and this is like, the same development arc most players go through as they get better. You start off by throwing out random stuff and getting punished hard because its slow, predictable, and there is no technique. As you get better, you learn the "right" was to play neutral and how to space properly, and how to apply pressure without over extending, etc. But when you get REALLY good, you slowly incorporate some of that "noob" stuff back into your play. every now and then you throw in that really weird bad option a lower level player would do, but since youre a very high level player, its entirely unexpected and will often times actually end up working. And you dont do it much. You only throw that kinda stuff in here and there so its always unpredictable which is what MAKES it good. It leaves your opponent always guessing what youre going to do and they can never figure it out allowing for many openings. It sounds a lot like the "wrong" way to do stuff in real fighting. If its completely unexpected, it can end up working and landing which is why really strong fighters sometimes do those weird options.
Well actually, the way I throw uppercuts is by holding my guard up while pressing the nuclear launch button to beat my opponent, anything else would just leave me vulnerable for a fraction of a second which means I would lose instantly.
Everytime I post a new video I am mortified for at least a day, because I fear criticism, and I am afraid that my technique isn't "perfect". But the more I see and the more I learn, the more I realize that no one really has a "perfect" technique and everyone can bring something new to the table. This video really hit that spot. Thanks coach!
I try very hard to make sure I'm not just self serving with videos but every once in awhile I just end up saying some shit I wish someone would say to me.
Hey Mike - as a youTuber with 260,000 subscribers I agree with you on (fake name) 'expert' commentary. There's a level of nuance which is often overlooked by these people in all subject areas. I'm an amateur enthusiast at violence (so, not nearly as qualified as you) but I think these 'experts' saying 'if you do that then you'll get knocked out' fail to acknowledge that what you do in the moment in a fight, in the ring or in the street largely depends upon what your opponent offers you in that moment. If you've just landed one and they're affected by it, you have time to load up. But if they're hammering you and you load up out of desperation they'll probably destroy you. There's a hundred different ways to do anything (if you're operationally proficient) and the right version depends, often, on the granular detail of the prevailing circumstances in that moment. Enjoy your videos - thanks a lot for all the tips (especially how to deliver two left hooks in a row) - John.
I always load my uppercuts when im in a comfortable distance,or use the load up motion to evade or disguise a hook instead of a uppercut. If I'm in longer distance I try to spear the uppercut . that's how I do it tho and it works for me
Long range uppercut and long left hook, along with long body jab and the Tyson uppercut jab = 4 shots at different ranges set up with the same feint, reacting to opponent's reaction ie: feint and counter the counter
I prefer long renge upercuts with a loading motion that starts from the foot trying to transport my weight from on side of the body to another allot of times friends say that its not the right way but it always lands and hard so i never listen to them whatever works for you is the right think thats my opinion
When you teach a newcomer something, you tell them it's the "right way" so they learn the mechanics right. Learning to fight is about leaning where the edge cases are. Sub-optimal techniques work if you understand the upsides and downsides of what you are doing. I feel like anyone with that kind of black and white perspective has never spent serious time sparing and thinking.
As a lanky dude I love the spear uppercuts from outside. Basically another straight but from a different angle. Different body types and fighting styles breed their own variations/gradients of punches. Ingrain the fundamentals and then start to figure out what works for you. Great content man!
Tony Ferguson does the uppercut this way (like a cross). I saw it in a sparring video on youtube also (another guy). Je did Jab to the head, jab to the body and then the long uppercut. He landed clear.
great videos my friend , Ive done a bit of boxing as a young fella ,martial arts for quiet a few years instructing , and an unarmed combat instructor for a few years , there's a massive difference between static striking and dynamic striking , combat ,fighting is all about movement be it attacking evading defensive ,distance ,its all about rhythm and timing and finding angles , strikes punches can come in many forms and from many angles , you are 100 % correct in saying there is no right way its whatever works , you have the basic technique of a strike that then gets adapted to combat timing and distance , the worst people to fight are those that have very little experience because they throw shit that isn't expected and it hits you , find a target and hit it , obviously the better base and technique will have more power but it may just be something used to set up another more powerful strike .
Anytime I do "power strikes" (uppercuts, hooks, etc) I open my arm just a little bit and do a the whole "squat" thing and at the last second I "snap" my arm in almost like I'm trying to hit myself but I don't. I think as long as you keep proper form and throw the shots "correct" then it's not going to be easy for someone else to hit you. I might do a vid on it sometime. Thanks for sharing man.
True, a few years ago, I made a video showing a kicking combo where you need to miss with the low kick to continue thru with a spinning hook kick. Good points about online criticism as well... nice ending, the ego is a tricky enemy👍🏻
Couldn't agree more. People that say "if you do that you get knocked out" lack a true understanding of the saying "not stupid if it works". Context dictates practicality of strikes and when we're talking hypothetical, you can't just go in a straight line. Sometimes stupid shit are just hard to pull off, but not impossible. *Shows a bunch of clips with "impractical shit" with great results irl.
I was trained to squat, load up, launch the legs, and release the hand palm facing you, out at a 45 degree angle, aiming for the sternum. Leading the glove / fist to the chin. My load up became more subtle and fast without losing power and it's a favorite to use against an opponent with wide elbows, or lingering punches. It's the softest punch, just a bit less than a jab, that I've dropped people with. I've still dropped more with hooks.
OMG you wrap your hands exacly like i do!! So many coaches told me i will break my hand if i have wraps around fingers but i do this since 10 yrs. Its just about not stretch too much the elastic wrap when the band goes between fingers
I took a double end bag and attached it with a bungee to my heavy bag, makes a target for uppercuts. Not the best but it works as something to make contact with.
Yeah notice the guys doing most of the criticizing are not exactly prolific content creators. Insecurity is crippling them. We can't let it drag us down too.
Shane throws a "tall" uppercut because that's how it's taught in Muay Thai, which is his foundational style. I seriously doubt he would say it's the only proper way to throw one.
@@IcyMikeP and biohazard724: He doesn't. In fact, he did put a long explaination before one of his latest vids, to make it clear, that his suggestions may not be the "only way". But also a funny fact: "Muay Thai" has also very different styles, because like in Boxing or Kickboxing, there are always fighters who change techniques, stances, guards and footwork because of individual experiences. The TH-camchannel of Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu and her "Muay Thai Library"-Project is a real mindblower, because she shows trainings session with some "Muay Thai Legends" who developed very different individual approaches even to teaching the "basics". People should just understand, that the more serious TH-camrs in the "Martial Arts & Combat Sports" are more about showing and sharing what they know and works for them as a free offer to try it in training and sparring.
Comparative size is the key for me. Working effectively with shot selection has to take into account your opponent more than what you think you are good at.
For that variation of the uppercut you were trying out, I like to shift my weight to the back foot. If your rear foot is your right you will also shift your body weight right and back slightly. There is a lot of body structure behind this punch and its good as a counter when somebody invades your space.
I have that one competitive boxer as an acquintance of mine who critisized my striking as 'poking' and taught me to load up every strike. I argued that it makes the strike angle obvious but he parried my argument with fainting. Every technique is legit as long as it produces the result. But ultimately the correct technique is the one that will bring the opponent down.
That Straight Spear Uppercut is basically Arrow Punch from Wing Chun. It's a straight Drill Punch (upside down Cross or Reverse Punch) travelling upwards diagonally. Not a curving line like Boxing's Uppercut, but a straightening arm going upward diagonally. I had a Boxing coach who called it an, "Up-Jab." (Not talking shiz, just offering other arts' takes so you can all look up how they do it.)
If it lands it's right, do you remember a fighter named Donovan Razor Ruddock? He used to throw a combination hook/uppercut that was unorthodox but it worked so well for him.
One of the major issues in Martial arts schools in general. I experienced it myself as a student and as an instructor "your not doing it how we taught it" like there is only one way to do things..
I think this is a situation where Martial Arts are similar to Fine Arts. First you learn the "rules," then you learn when and how to break them. If people are really stuck on the "rules" or the "right way" to do something, it may mean that they're just not ready to take that next step yet.
Funnily enough, whilst I'm watching this video, TH-cam's recommended fightTIPS "I Changed the Way I Punch" as the next video. Proving your point that there is more than one way to punch.
The problem with our attitude to learning is that we're always looking for the one "right" way to do things - me included - but we forget that there are two stages of learning. The first is learning the technique. The second is the style. Everyone obsessed with the first should go and watch Prince Naseem Hamed videos. He's doing so much "wrong" and yet he became a champion. His style won him a lot of fights and it worked for him.
The non-squatting uppercut can be good against taller opponents as squatting first might make the range awkward or make you overcommit, but as you said: If it lands, it works
I understand 100% what you’re trying to do. Showing people different tools to put in the arsenal. Like you said if it’s not for you don’t use it. 🤷🏾♂️ Thanks for all the videos. 👍🏾
@@IcyMikeP Oh no! It's just that I recently had an argument with one of my schoolmate and I was winning so he turned the whole situation around and just wanted to fight me. And here where I live you mess with one, you mess with his whole group of friends which is kind of a pussy move if I may say.
I usually bolo my rear uppers but do the squat down upper squat up thing with my lead. But I also throw my rear uppers like a cross and my lead uppers like a spear. I'll use both but I'll favor a technique over another based on what my opponent is defending/countering with. I'll work on "jumping into" my upper once we get back to the gym. I don't feel shadow boxing is an optimal way to learn new techniques, rather refine and combine.
I will say that I initially will disagree with a lot of techniques observed on youtube. However, I will then later go work them and rework my techniques to see if I do any at any level. Many times I will use them to some degree in situations. I may not agree that they are the best way or correct way to teach someone but hardly will say they are all out wrong
When I throw an uppercut without squatting, I dip my shoulder and engage the opposite side of my core to help add some snap when “rising” again... lol, that probably doesn’t help any.
I appreciate the comment about don't be afraid to do stuff you're not good at. I know jiu jitsu has been great for me as far as exposing to lots of people what I'm not good at. I get corrected and sometimes embarassed, in real-time, and have to figure out how to improve. So you would think that fear of failure would be gone, nope! I want to start Muay Thai in August and I'm nervous about it. I don't know how to punch or kick, so I'm worried I'll look stupid. After five years of jiu jitsu, that fear of looking stupid should be drilled out of me. It isn't.
The standing uppercut uses more your back than your legs, that's how I was taught. You should try to get your back shoulder to the front with it fast and at an uppercut angle. I prefer the squatting one because it's more powerful but this one got more range and you commit less.
To be honest, I try not to get too hung up on "The right way" because it can stunt you man. I used to, I use to a lot. My Kickboxing instructor actually told me off for it. I'd land a punch but they'd be no flow to it because I wanted to land that punch perfect and the next punch perfect and the next one and the next one. What it lead to is me punching the pad and holding it there for half a second to make sure I had it right, to then do the same with the other punch. Then my kickboxing coach who noticed what I was doing took me to one side and told me "You're over thinking it, don't worry about perfection, just let it flow".
I like your channel. As a freshspawn with no experience, you make things simple and clear for me. I enjoy stickfighting, it’s good fun. I know nothing about boxing. I have an experienced thai-bo buddy, with whom I spar (practically and theoretically), and we talk about some of the tecniques and issues you present. But I also revisit a lot for entertainmemt. This channel has super high entertainment value! :) I watch this shit like others watch friends. Good fun,
I can never figure out how to throw an uppercut, when i throw an uppercut i squat a little and pivot like throwing a cross, and freddie roach said that pivoting is bad cause it makes you more open when throwing an uppercut, but it feels really weird not to, this is something I gotta figure out
Hi Mike, thanks for the video. I really appreciate you covered a topic I asked about. Ad "wrong" things working, this is, what I love about sparring, the momment when you say to yourself: "What, that worked?". (Of course more often I say: "What, that should have worked." :-D ) In my first boxing sparring, when my partner tried to roll, I did the swing uppercut and I by misstake hit him with the heel of my palm - I nearly knocked him out. On one hand I was really sorry about what happened, but on the other hand I was thinking about that being a tricky move in a different rule set.
Depends where you are trying to land the uppercut, are you coming out of a clinch? Are you wearing mma gloves or boxing gloves? That spear version works better with mma gloves, the load up versions work better for a liver shot.
Anyone who thinks there’s only one technique or only one way to do something isn’t as smart as they think. Everybody loves to criticize form and technique, especially that of elite fighters, yet they’re the ones who are elite and you aren’t so they’re obviously doing something right. And there are tons of fighters with weird and awkward punches that become world champions because their form of fighting is so different and versatile that’s it’s hard to counter or figure out.
Yes the thing your often not supposed to do it’s a faint or a trap . I don’t do boxing but I’ve done sword fighting my motto has become it’s not wrong if it works .
I do the stabbing uppercut on both sides but only the squat one on my right side (my strongest side) i find I'm not fluid enough with my movement and timing on my left that it always gets blocked unless it comes straight out. More practice and im sure i could master and use them all.
I think the idea that "this is how it's done and it's the only way" is something that sticks with us from the beginning because of our faith/trust in the person/people training us and insecurities about maybe doing something "wrong" and being made fun of, if you look at all the greats they all do things that are wrong on a technical level but it works(before you say it, I know I'm not them). The basics of every martial art exist to give you a foundation to build from, and part of building your skillset at anything comes from experimenting with different angles and setups it teaches you theres situations where something that shouldn't work sometimes can if the set-up for is there, but with all of that being said you have to learn the rules before you start breaking them.
Eyyy Mike? Is there ever a slip upwards? Because one possible positive that I see of your laygmussul uppercut is your head movement. Kind of like how a cross has a built in slip sometimes? If the other guy tried to zero in on you with a hook and you happened to land the laygmussul uppercut, it seems like he'd miss.
There are lots of ways to throw an uppercut. However the "long uppercut" or uppercut from the outside is the strike I have seen get people knocked the fuck out the most, so i would discourage people from throwing it at all. Yes there is a lot of power behind it, but you are open to the 2 most common strikes, overheads and long hooks.
Good video my friend! Your boxing fundamentals are much better than (most) kickboxers that I see. Or maybe I am just biased to punching. Very Good video. Happy Memorial Day.
I dont count the bolo 'uppercut' as an uppercut, I count it as a type of straight with the hand supinated. Its power generation isnt that much different from a straight with a swing of the arm and extension at the end. For me, real uppercuts are only the ones with upwards force, using the jumping muscles.
Perfect ending! If this fighting thing doesn't work out, due to you advanced age, you have an entertaining channel. Criticism...in the fight game...where we prove things with our fists and wits...it makes me laugh. Everybody has a plan...
Thanks for the tips, but what I've reeeeeeally been wondering is whether or not your hammer-time self defense video will include a duel-wielding segment or not. Also lmao that conclusion... 😂. Love your stuff 👍
That uppercut you struggle with I throw on the bag. Never really use it in sparring but on pure technique I just think of it as an upside down jab for a bag that doesn’t hit back it works pretty well for me lol
That outro and music tho is 🔥. You make me wanna start uploading my own videos cuz you have no shame you just do and say whatever you’re thinking and make jokes I love it
Training forms are always exaggerated to create better feed back and muscle memory. People would do well to remember that. When you get into a fight, planned or otherwise, you're going to fight instinctually, not logically. So when you have your brain available, and you can analyze your body, you want to feel everything, you want to train and fine tune your instincts for those moments when you aren't analyzing. Making space to plan.
I came to this expecting to contest "no no, there isn't just one way to throw an uppercut". Then realization immediately came and I pretty much agreed all the way through. Including insecurity and trying to assert I know something. And it's not just the uppercut. Not even just the hands. Sure. We want to have some structure while we're learning, training. Just not so damn rigid so everybody beats me up in a fight but I had good form. One point I noticed is that when beardy guy threw the bolo punch he did get his legs involved some. Not exaggerated no. But he did and you should. You don't want to arm punch. Yes your arm muscles are going to be involved. But as with this gentleman used his hips and drove a little with his legs on his "arm" bolo punch, so should you or I.
For every single technique out there, there's ways to counter it, valid or not, so "don't do this or this will happen" is both helpful and stupid. By all means, let me know what counters you're thinking of. Then let's see if they can actually stop me. From there, we can play the fight out and see who wins.
I just started posting content and I'm working up to posting techniques and training things, right now it's shorts to build a library. So far no criticism, but I think I would feel good about the engagement regardless, haha.
I was carrying the mushroom bag back and forth from the studio to the house and forgot the real carabiner so i just used some random shit from the toolbox
I feel like it's the way of a true martial artists/combat athlete to always be willing to learn and openly try new methods. But those people you mentioned wouldn't understand, if you know you know
"If you're getting your ass kicked doing those things, don't do them. But if you're kicking ass doing them, it's okay!" I feel like you could build a religion around this quote.
Question for Viewers: What are some other techniques people think there is only one way to throw?
Icy Mike lead hook with Ryan Garcia
I dont beleve in styles anymore
Low kicks , people sometimes tell me there is one way to.
Cockslap
Sidekicks cause no variation even works so there is no right or wrong way sidekicks are just wrong
“Our punches are tight, our range is right, we’re in and out, we’re treating this thing like a real fight with our movement and strikes”- icy mike got that fire too 🔥🔥BARS🔥🔥
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lmao its actually good
*"If it lands, it's right"* quote of the goddamn century right there. Too many people out there saying "20 different ways you're punching wrong!"
Mike is the most honest trainers you will ever listen to. Not many people say shit they are not good at in their videos but this guy does it so naturally. It is human nature, we all suck at something, no need to hide it.
Getting in to the ring is a good way to get knocked out!
Exactly, unless you just stand there and shell up you're open to be hit. People saying "You can't throw x because they'll hit you with y..." is bs. You throw anything you're susceptible to attack.
@@JayR-ct8pv Plus they always think that if you throw something they can always counter .Ok fella,you counter while I throw 4 punches with maximum power from different angles on different sides to different areas
Leaving your house!
I always think there is a fine line between striving for perfection of technique and paralysis by analysis. I see this alot with the karate community as we are all about perfection of technique. But at the same time some times you just have to throw weird shit that might not be technically correct. I was in sparring match with a boxer where i was getting killed because he's a thousand times better boxer than me but at the end he gave me a nice compliment telling me i kept landing hits at these weird angles forcing him to adjust.
This reminds me a lot of like, Esports fighting games. I play fighting games competitively, and this is like, the same development arc most players go through as they get better.
You start off by throwing out random stuff and getting punished hard because its slow, predictable, and there is no technique. As you get better, you learn the "right" was to play neutral and how to space properly, and how to apply pressure without over extending, etc. But when you get REALLY good, you slowly incorporate some of that "noob" stuff back into your play. every now and then you throw in that really weird bad option a lower level player would do, but since youre a very high level player, its entirely unexpected and will often times actually end up working. And you dont do it much. You only throw that kinda stuff in here and there so its always unpredictable which is what MAKES it good. It leaves your opponent always guessing what youre going to do and they can never figure it out allowing for many openings.
It sounds a lot like the "wrong" way to do stuff in real fighting. If its completely unexpected, it can end up working and landing which is why really strong fighters sometimes do those weird options.
Well said. We should strive for ideal technique but also be capable of adapting on the fly
I think that's why people who are very critical usually aren't posting their own stuff.
Well actually, the way I throw uppercuts is by holding my guard up while pressing the nuclear launch button to beat my opponent, anything else would just leave me vulnerable for a fraction of a second which means I would lose instantly.
Everytime I post a new video I am mortified for at least a day, because I fear criticism, and I am afraid that my technique isn't "perfect". But the more I see and the more I learn, the more I realize that no one really has a "perfect" technique and everyone can bring something new to the table. This video really hit that spot. Thanks coach!
Very few of the people criticizing post videos... think about a couple reasons that might be.
Damn, mike had an existential crisis at the end
I try very hard to make sure I'm not just self serving with videos but every once in awhile I just end up saying some shit I wish someone would say to me.
Man i stumbled on here about batons and now im into flashlights and uppercuts. You're cool as hell.
Hey Mike - as a youTuber with 260,000 subscribers I agree with you on (fake name) 'expert' commentary. There's a level of nuance which is often overlooked by these people in all subject areas. I'm an amateur enthusiast at violence (so, not nearly as qualified as you) but I think these 'experts' saying 'if you do that then you'll get knocked out' fail to acknowledge that what you do in the moment in a fight, in the ring or in the street largely depends upon what your opponent offers you in that moment. If you've just landed one and they're affected by it, you have time to load up. But if they're hammering you and you load up out of desperation they'll probably destroy you. There's a hundred different ways to do anything (if you're operationally proficient) and the right version depends, often, on the granular detail of the prevailing circumstances in that moment. Enjoy your videos - thanks a lot for all the tips (especially how to deliver two left hooks in a row) - John.
So it's not just a thing in martial arts youtube?
@@hard2hurt Absolutely not - it's insecurity + the Dunning Kruger effect + access to a keyboard, and the ability to hide behind a fake name.
I always load my uppercuts when im in a comfortable distance,or use the load up motion to evade or disguise a hook instead of a uppercut. If I'm in longer distance I try to spear the uppercut . that's how I do it tho and it works for me
Long range uppercut and long left hook, along with long body jab and the Tyson uppercut jab = 4 shots at different ranges set up with the same feint, reacting to opponent's reaction ie: feint and counter the counter
I prefer long renge upercuts with a loading motion that starts from the foot trying to transport my weight from on side of the body to another allot of times friends say that its not the right way but it always lands and hard so i never listen to them whatever works for you is the right think thats my opinion
When you teach a newcomer something, you tell them it's the "right way" so they learn the mechanics right. Learning to fight is about leaning where the edge cases are. Sub-optimal techniques work if you understand the upsides and downsides of what you are doing. I feel like anyone with that kind of black and white perspective has never spent serious time sparing and thinking.
"I think it's just about me, sorry"
😄 🙏🏿🇬🇧🇦🇬
Also everyone should just accept that you'll get hit. Learn to minimize it and deal with it.
Indeed. Unless you're Neo in the Matrix, you're going to get hit.
Getting hit is an important part of fighting.
ah a reasonable comment. INDEED
As a lanky dude I love the spear uppercuts from outside. Basically another straight but from a different angle. Different body types and fighting styles breed their own variations/gradients of punches. Ingrain the fundamentals and then start to figure out what works for you. Great content man!
Tony Ferguson does the uppercut this way (like a cross). I saw it in a sparring video on youtube also (another guy). Je did Jab to the head, jab to the body and then the long uppercut. He landed clear.
When he said “leg muscles” tell me he didn’t sound like Yoel Romero 🤣🤣🤣
A different Cuban.
he didn’t sound like Yoel Romero
great videos my friend , Ive done a bit of boxing as a young fella ,martial arts for quiet a few years instructing , and an unarmed combat instructor for a few years , there's a massive difference between static striking and dynamic striking , combat ,fighting is all about movement be it attacking evading defensive ,distance ,its all about rhythm and timing and finding angles , strikes punches can come in many forms and from many angles , you are 100 % correct in saying there is no right way its whatever works , you have the basic technique of a strike that then gets adapted to combat timing and distance , the worst people to fight are those that have very little experience because they throw shit that isn't expected and it hits you , find a target and hit it , obviously the better base and technique will have more power but it may just be something used to set up another more powerful strike .
Anytime I do "power strikes" (uppercuts, hooks, etc) I open my arm just a little bit and do a the whole "squat" thing and at the last second I "snap" my arm in almost like I'm trying to hit myself but I don't. I think as long as you keep proper form and throw the shots "correct" then it's not going to be easy for someone else to hit you. I might do a vid on it sometime. Thanks for sharing man.
Mike, you're such an honest cool guy. so glad i found your page. you've helped me out a lot
I'm glad you found us too... happy to help.
@5:06 Timing and which one, I think what dictates that is what kind of opening is presented, and where you are at that moment...
"Our LEHG MOSCLES!" Channeling that Puerto Rican Kung Fu again? :D
Cuban.
Well crap, right area, wrong island/country.
True, a few years ago, I made a video showing a kicking combo where you need to miss with the low kick to continue thru with a spinning hook kick. Good points about online criticism as well... nice ending, the ego is a tricky enemy👍🏻
Gotta kill the ego
Couldn't agree more. People that say "if you do that you get knocked out" lack a true understanding of the saying "not stupid if it works".
Context dictates practicality of strikes and when we're talking hypothetical, you can't just go in a straight line. Sometimes stupid shit are just hard to pull off, but not impossible.
*Shows a bunch of clips with "impractical shit" with great results irl.
I was trained to squat, load up, launch the legs, and release the hand palm facing you, out at a 45 degree angle, aiming for the sternum. Leading the glove / fist to the chin. My load up became more subtle and fast without losing power and it's a favorite to use against an opponent with wide elbows, or lingering punches. It's the softest punch, just a bit less than a jab, that I've dropped people with. I've still dropped more with hooks.
Dude you should have WAY more likes than you have. This is practical, common sense stuff. Thank you!
Well then get to sharing, homie!
I’ve not squatted when throwing an uppercut before. The difference with that is your lead shoulder should be slightly higher than your rear.
OMG you wrap your hands exacly like i do!! So many coaches told me i will break my hand if i have wraps around fingers but i do this since 10 yrs. Its just about not stretch too much the elastic wrap when the band goes between fingers
I took a double end bag and attached it with a bungee to my heavy bag, makes a target for uppercuts. Not the best but it works as something to make contact with.
So I was just searching for your last uppercut video and you have a new one. Awesome!
I felt you in the matrix.
'Don't be afraid to post shit you are not good at either.' Totally resonated with me for my last video. Good shit, Mike.
Yeah notice the guys doing most of the criticizing are not exactly prolific content creators. Insecurity is crippling them. We can't let it drag us down too.
@@hard2hurt you on some next level shiet, my man.
Shane throws a "tall" uppercut because that's how it's taught in Muay Thai, which is his foundational style. I seriously doubt he would say it's the only proper way to throw one.
Probably not. That's just what some dude said.
@@IcyMikeP and biohazard724: He doesn't. In fact, he did put a long explaination before one of his latest vids, to make it clear, that his suggestions may not be the "only way".
But also a funny fact: "Muay Thai" has also very different styles, because like in Boxing or Kickboxing, there are always fighters who change techniques, stances, guards and footwork because of individual experiences.
The TH-camchannel of Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu and her "Muay Thai Library"-Project is a real mindblower, because she shows trainings session with some "Muay Thai Legends" who developed very different individual approaches even to teaching the "basics".
People should just understand, that the more serious TH-camrs in the "Martial Arts & Combat Sports" are more about showing and sharing what they know and works for them as a free offer to try it in training and sparring.
Comparative size is the key for me. Working effectively with shot selection has to take into account your opponent more than what you think you are good at.
You learn the rules so you know when to break them. Learned that in HEMA.
For that variation of the uppercut you were trying out, I like to shift my weight to the back foot. If your rear foot is your right you will also shift your body weight right and back slightly. There is a lot of body structure behind this punch and its good as a counter when somebody invades your space.
I have that one competitive boxer as an acquintance of mine who critisized my striking as 'poking' and taught me to load up every strike. I argued that it makes the strike angle obvious but he parried my argument with fainting. Every technique is legit as long as it produces the result. But ultimately the correct technique is the one that will bring the opponent down.
That Straight Spear Uppercut is basically Arrow Punch from Wing Chun. It's a straight Drill Punch (upside down Cross or Reverse Punch) travelling upwards diagonally. Not a curving line like Boxing's Uppercut, but a straightening arm going upward diagonally. I had a Boxing coach who called it an, "Up-Jab." (Not talking shiz, just offering other arts' takes so you can all look up how they do it.)
4:42 (simplified) "yes but no"
If it lands it's right, do you remember a fighter named Donovan Razor Ruddock? He used to throw a combination hook/uppercut that was unorthodox but it worked so well for him.
That little existential crisis at the end was priceless😆😆
One of the major issues in Martial arts schools in general. I experienced it myself as a student and as an instructor "your not doing it how we taught it" like there is only one way to do things..
I think this is a situation where Martial Arts are similar to Fine Arts. First you learn the "rules," then you learn when and how to break them. If people are really stuck on the "rules" or the "right way" to do something, it may mean that they're just not ready to take that next step yet.
With the squat you dig in there deep. Love that feeling you know you caught him.
Funnily enough, whilst I'm watching this video, TH-cam's recommended fightTIPS "I Changed the Way I Punch" as the next video. Proving your point that there is more than one way to punch.
The problem with our attitude to learning is that we're always looking for the one "right" way to do things - me included - but we forget that there are two stages of learning. The first is learning the technique. The second is the style. Everyone obsessed with the first should go and watch Prince Naseem Hamed videos. He's doing so much "wrong" and yet he became a champion. His style won him a lot of fights and it worked for him.
The non-squatting uppercut can be good against taller opponents as squatting first might make the range awkward or make you overcommit, but as you said: If it lands, it works
I understand 100% what you’re trying to do. Showing people different tools to put in the arsenal. Like you said if it’s not for you don’t use it. 🤷🏾♂️ Thanks for all the videos. 👍🏾
Hey mike I was wondering if you can make a video where you fight a group? Like a group composing atleast 4 people
Ugh you just want to see me get beat up.
@@IcyMikeP Oh no! It's just that I recently had an argument with one of my schoolmate and I was winning so he turned the whole situation around and just wanted to fight me. And here where I live you mess with one, you mess with his whole group of friends which is kind of a pussy move if I may say.
I usually bolo my rear uppers but do the squat down upper squat up thing with my lead.
But I also throw my rear uppers like a cross and my lead uppers like a spear.
I'll use both but I'll favor a technique over another based on what my opponent is defending/countering with.
I'll work on "jumping into" my upper once we get back to the gym. I don't feel shadow boxing is an optimal way to learn new techniques, rather refine and combine.
I will say that I initially will disagree with a lot of techniques observed on youtube. However, I will then later go work them and rework my techniques to see if I do any at any level. Many times I will use them to some degree in situations. I may not agree that they are the best way or correct way to teach someone but hardly will say they are all out wrong
When I throw an uppercut without squatting, I dip my shoulder and engage the opposite side of my core to help add some snap when “rising” again... lol, that probably doesn’t help any.
I've been at home training alone and my uppercuts feel so awkward thanks for the video 👍
I appreciate the comment about don't be afraid to do stuff you're not good at. I know jiu jitsu has been great for me as far as exposing to lots of people what I'm not good at. I get corrected and sometimes embarassed, in real-time, and have to figure out how to improve. So you would think that fear of failure would be gone, nope!
I want to start Muay Thai in August and I'm nervous about it. I don't know how to punch or kick, so I'm worried I'll look stupid. After five years of jiu jitsu, that fear of looking stupid should be drilled out of me. It isn't.
The standing uppercut uses more your back than your legs, that's how I was taught. You should try to get your back shoulder to the front with it fast and at an uppercut angle. I prefer the squatting one because it's more powerful but this one got more range and you commit less.
Squatting when throwing an uppercut doesn't work for Mike because he'd just hit people in the knees instead of the face. :)
omfg so funny
LMAO
I believe throw what’s comfortable. I like throw my uppercut with my elbows a little bit flared. And dip a tad bit and use my hips.
I needed your Channel in my life. Thank you
I needed it in my life!
Short uppercut goes well with a corresponding stance switch.
To be honest, I try not to get too hung up on "The right way" because it can stunt you man. I used to, I use to a lot. My Kickboxing instructor actually told me off for it. I'd land a punch but they'd be no flow to it because I wanted to land that punch perfect and the next punch perfect and the next one and the next one. What it lead to is me punching the pad and holding it there for half a second to make sure I had it right, to then do the same with the other punch. Then my kickboxing coach who noticed what I was doing took me to one side and told me "You're over thinking it, don't worry about perfection, just let it flow".
That existential moment at the end cracked me up 🤣
I like your channel. As a freshspawn with no experience, you make things simple and clear for me. I enjoy stickfighting, it’s good fun. I know nothing about boxing. I have an experienced thai-bo buddy, with whom I spar (practically and theoretically), and we talk about some of the tecniques and issues you present. But I also revisit a lot for entertainmemt. This channel has super high entertainment value! :) I watch this shit like others watch friends. Good fun,
Mike you put out the best shit. I have got to train at this place someday.
Hope to see you some day!
I can never figure out how to throw an uppercut, when i throw an uppercut i squat a little and pivot like throwing a cross, and freddie roach said that pivoting is bad cause it makes you more open when throwing an uppercut, but it feels really weird not to, this is something I gotta figure out
I appreciate your off-the-cuff style
Hi Mike, thanks for the video. I really appreciate you covered a topic I asked about. Ad "wrong" things working, this is, what I love about sparring, the momment when you say to yourself: "What, that worked?". (Of course more often I say: "What, that should have worked." :-D ) In my first boxing sparring, when my partner tried to roll, I did the swing uppercut and I by misstake hit him with the heel of my palm - I nearly knocked him out. On one hand I was really sorry about what happened, but on the other hand I was thinking about that being a tricky move in a different rule set.
Depends where you are trying to land the uppercut, are you coming out of a clinch? Are you wearing mma gloves or boxing gloves? That spear version works better with mma gloves, the load up versions work better for a liver shot.
Also, @1:47 .... Bars
Anyone who thinks there’s only one technique or only one way to do something isn’t as smart as they think. Everybody loves to criticize form and technique, especially that of elite fighters, yet they’re the ones who are elite and you aren’t so they’re obviously doing something right. And there are tons of fighters with weird and awkward punches that become world champions because their form of fighting is so different and versatile that’s it’s hard to counter or figure out.
"Or is this video just about me"
Love your video's man.
Yes the thing your often not supposed to do it’s a faint or a trap . I don’t do boxing but I’ve done sword fighting my motto has become it’s not wrong if it works .
I do the stabbing uppercut on both sides but only the squat one on my right side (my strongest side) i find I'm not fluid enough with my movement and timing on my left that it always gets blocked unless it comes straight out. More practice and im sure i could master and use them all.
I think the idea that "this is how it's done and it's the only way" is something that sticks with us from the beginning because of our faith/trust in the person/people training us and insecurities about maybe doing something "wrong" and being made fun of, if you look at all the greats they all do things that are wrong on a technical level but it works(before you say it, I know I'm not them). The basics of every martial art exist to give you a foundation to build from, and part of building your skillset at anything comes from experimenting with different angles and setups it teaches you theres situations where something that shouldn't work sometimes can if the set-up for is there, but with all of that being said you have to learn the rules before you start breaking them.
2:36 idk why people would think you can't upper cut like this. Canelo lands this at least once per fight. SRL did it in his first fight with Duran
mike what happened to sergio? ... i don't see him in your videos anymore
Quarantine
hahhhahah i mean his previous videos before the Quarantine
Doesn't he live in another country?
ohhh rightt...well icy mike x shane is coming soon (i hope so)
What is the "LEEG MUUSCLE" from lmao. Gets me everytime
Eyyy Mike? Is there ever a slip upwards? Because one possible positive that I see of your laygmussul uppercut is your head movement. Kind of like how a cross has a built in slip sometimes?
If the other guy tried to zero in on you with a hook and you happened to land the laygmussul uppercut, it seems like he'd miss.
Dude... that ending was meta af. Just because of that, I'm buying a T-shirt!
There are lots of ways to throw an uppercut. However the "long uppercut" or uppercut from the outside is the strike I have seen get people knocked the fuck out the most, so i would discourage people from throwing it at all. Yes there is a lot of power behind it, but you are open to the 2 most common strikes, overheads and long hooks.
Hey Mike, where can I order the wraps and the paddkng you wrap with in the start of the video? Asking from Norway.
Good video my friend! Your boxing fundamentals are much better than (most) kickboxers that I see. Or maybe I am just biased to punching. Very Good video. Happy Memorial Day.
I dont count the bolo 'uppercut' as an uppercut, I count it as a type of straight with the hand supinated. Its power generation isnt that much different from a straight with a swing of the arm and extension at the end.
For me, real uppercuts are only the ones with upwards force, using the jumping muscles.
I liked how Joe Frazier and marvin hagler set up their punches.
Hey bro what was that gray thing on your hand before you wrapped it? Thanks!
wow, yeah that bolo.. I mean you just taught me a new move man! lol this channel is great.
Perfect ending! If this fighting thing doesn't work out, due to you advanced age, you have an entertaining channel. Criticism...in the fight game...where we prove things with our fists and wits...it makes me laugh. Everybody has a plan...
What happened to the Outslayer heavy bags? Do you prefer these rev gear over them?
Thanks for the tips, but what I've reeeeeeally been wondering is whether or not your hammer-time self defense video will include a duel-wielding segment or not.
Also lmao that conclusion... 😂. Love your stuff 👍
That uppercut you struggle with I throw on the bag. Never really use it in sparring but on pure technique I just think of it as an upside down jab for a bag that doesn’t hit back it works pretty well for me lol
That outro and music tho is 🔥. You make me wanna start uploading my own videos cuz you have no shame you just do and say whatever you’re thinking and make jokes I love it
😂👍!! That "Squat Uppercut" how knock one of my big brothers molars out! Lol
Training forms are always exaggerated to create better feed back and muscle memory. People would do well to remember that. When you get into a fight, planned or otherwise, you're going to fight instinctually, not logically. So when you have your brain available, and you can analyze your body, you want to feel everything, you want to train and fine tune your instincts for those moments when you aren't analyzing. Making space to plan.
I came to this expecting to contest "no no, there isn't just one way to throw an uppercut". Then realization immediately came and I pretty much agreed all the way through. Including insecurity and trying to assert I know something. And it's not just the uppercut. Not even just the hands. Sure. We want to have some structure while we're learning, training. Just not so damn rigid so everybody beats me up in a fight but I had good form.
One point I noticed is that when beardy guy threw the bolo punch he did get his legs involved some. Not exaggerated no. But he did and you should. You don't want to arm punch. Yes your arm muscles are going to be involved. But as with this gentleman used his hips and drove a little with his legs on his "arm" bolo punch, so should you or I.
For every single technique out there, there's ways to counter it, valid or not, so "don't do this or this will happen" is both helpful and stupid. By all means, let me know what counters you're thinking of. Then let's see if they can actually stop me. From there, we can play the fight out and see who wins.
When you squat you're hitting the bag much lower then the other variation, you may have more luck if you raise the bag a bit to get a better angel.
someone smart once said: if it seems stupid but it works, it's not stupid.
I just started posting content and I'm working up to posting techniques and training things, right now it's shorts to build a library. So far no criticism, but I think I would feel good about the engagement regardless, haha.
Good video Mike!
I heard for a heacy bag that you should not have metal on metal is that the way you do it?
I was carrying the mushroom bag back and forth from the studio to the house and forgot the real carabiner so i just used some random shit from the toolbox
I feel like it's the way of a true martial artists/combat athlete to always be willing to learn and openly try new methods. But those people you mentioned wouldn't understand, if you know you know
"If you're getting your ass kicked doing those things, don't do them. But if you're kicking ass doing them, it's okay!"
I feel like you could build a religion around this quote.
“LEG MUSCLES”!!!