I’m still not sure how artosis popped up in my feed last week. Glad he did, forgot how much I loved StarCraft. A bunch of other smaller copy cat StarCraft streamers are now in my feed. Sorry fellas, artosis was first in best dressed.
Maybe I'm out of my mind, but a small detail I notice between Speed and some of the TOP tier Terran players is how he sieges his tanks. He sieged the whole group at once, meaning the Protoss had a much easier time dropping Reavers between their shots. I feel like better Terran players will stagger the siege mode command by even a half second between smaller groups of tanks.
The tanks also all shoot at the same unit when you siege them at the same time unless you target them manually on different units. They dont have smart AI stopping them from doing overkill like in SC2. Staggering the sieges out a bit prevents that as well.
When protoss sends their units, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending balanced units. They’re sending units that have a lot of problems, and they’re bringing those problems to us. They’re bringing probes. They’re bringing zealots. They’re bringing invisible men. They’re bringing carriers. They are imba. And some of them, I assume, are good people.
@@asl2g4u hi... im was called actually 2nd best terran of estonia :D... but im not active now in triathlon.. no racing, just jogs, swims, small bike commutes.. i did many 70.3-s 5-7 years ago, and other triathlons 2xmarathon etc. but no strava now real data to show now.. keeping an eye on the world scene now still, and all the racing, IM, t100, and olympic tri/world triathlon. Starcraft is cool.
Hi Artosis 👋 ❤️ you and the analysis, only qualms I have are: 1. Overly preferential slant in thoughts towards Terran. I get you play Terran and such so do I yet I would be pleased somehow with just a tad less 'playing favorites'. 2. You cover the events as such with how they ought to have been handled to pan out best from players 'x' division. Would be nice to briefly rattle out the options/make note of each fork in the road. In other words you cover 'execution of their strategy' by the players near exclusively wish alternative strategies and their feasibility were give mention more. Basically, as an example need you always asking in analysis if/when ghosts could've been advantageous for Terran :P
""Yo yo yo, what's up" I've been intentionally answering my phone inappropriately with that exact phrase but in German for 15 years now. That was weird to hear.
I wonder what is the speed of a Scarab. Is it faster than upgraded Zergling? Imagine a Scarab movement speed upgrade. Definatelly will be a popular upgrade.
@artosis if speed just brought like 3 scvs doesn’t that completely change the math on the 3 tanks/vultures vs 8-9 goons? I feel like 3 scvs woulda changed a ton.
lol did u open with a Theory impression? nice analysis I totally agree that was a botched engage going straight for the nat. here's a consideration: he mistimed his screen switch to macro during the engage and drifted in too deep then missed seeing the reinforcing goons and all his vults melted. 8 goons is important number for tanks, but need to remember 6 is for vults. especially unsupported disjointed attacks. Just like sieging mid battle, I hate laying mines mid battle, with the caveat that youve surrounded the targets and can magic box the mines down. just too many free hits on the vultsto place and run when VULTs are outnumbered. I hate the thin turrets, 1 cannot kill shuttles, fast enough. If you're not building the whole turret net, dont bother, just anti dt placement.1 is only good the zoning out an obs, or a mishandled slow shuttle.. see flash's first games vs bisu on citadel for healthy turret layouts. wraith is better defense for shoddy turrets.
If terran wants to push like in this match would it be better to get seige mode and mines before vulture speed? Leap frog the tanks, while the vultures keep moving near the front as the tanks take turns seiging. Would that have been a better way to try push? Anyway keep up casts Arty, and i'll keep enjoying them.
Looking at Speed's minerals and gas, he had the resources for siege mode at the 6:20 mark. Did he just forget siege mode with this push? It was suuuuper late! I think the whole game would've gone completely different if he had got siege mode in time for his push to be able to siege up at that choke by the protoss 3rd. Force a cancel on the nexus while constantly making units at home. Then make a command center as you retreat. Thoughts anyone?
@@Zagorsek He did have a third factory without an addon and a pile of resources though. It seems to me like this timing push could be tweaked to get siege mode faster. You lose 25 seconds of build time which works out to 1.3 vultures, not a big difference if you're going to be setting up in that choke by the 3rd and you're careful at using your vultures just to lay mines outside the protoss natural in order to delay the goons from flanking your army
So Artosis has actually mentioned this, part of the problem is that there are no Zergs playing at the top of the ladder. In English probably the best is Eonzerg if he's still doing that kind of thing.
Excuse me for off topic, but you clearly know something. Sooo, I checked ASL's page, and it seems, the next tournament is SSL. I mean like what?? Is ASL canceled and now rebranded? Or is Liquipedia drunk?
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"Yo yo yo, what's up guys!?" - Backs out of video stream, this isn't Artosis, it's a faaaaake!
AI-tosis
cardassians are not welcome in this comments section
I can live with it. I CAN live with it.
I’m still not sure how artosis popped up in my feed last week. Glad he did, forgot how much I loved StarCraft. A bunch of other smaller copy cat StarCraft streamers are now in my feed. Sorry fellas, artosis was first in best dressed.
Alternate title: Paralyze Paralyzes Speed's Speed
Sounds like a spoiler. Or is it an anti-spoiler?
Love the post-game analysis.
always skip that 🙃
I showed up for Artosis Casts and I got a Day[9] daily! Two videos in one!
"yoyo whats up guys" got the same vibe as "hello fellow kids!"
"Ready to win ASL" I love this so much. The hate can be felt a mile away.
Whats up guys!? Yo yo yo I got chills !
ice Ice baby
Maybe I'm out of my mind, but a small detail I notice between Speed and some of the TOP tier Terran players is how he sieges his tanks. He sieged the whole group at once, meaning the Protoss had a much easier time dropping Reavers between their shots. I feel like better Terran players will stagger the siege mode command by even a half second between smaller groups of tanks.
Exactly how Flash does it! And how he doesn't get phased by Reaver...
The tanks also all shoot at the same unit when you siege them at the same time unless you target them manually on different units. They dont have smart AI stopping them from doing overkill like in SC2. Staggering the sieges out a bit prevents that as well.
@@TheSuperappelflap Oh good, I'm glad I'm not imagining it lol.
We are going to build a big, beautiful spoiler wall and the protoss are gonna pay for it!
and nobody builds walls better than us.
When protoss sends their units, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending balanced units. They’re sending units that have a lot of problems, and they’re bringing those problems to us. They’re bringing probes. They’re bringing zealots. They’re bringing invisible men. They’re bringing carriers. They are imba. And some of them, I assume, are good people.
Believe me
Some say it’s the best wall ever made, I’m not saying that, others are saying that. Bigly.
As a Protoss supremacist I take offense to this statement.
I really like the analysis at the end
whats up my dog gangster homie
What's updog
@@Gris00 steve jobs
Opening switch up was indeed fly, dawg
yo yo yo loved it
I love the analysis at the end. Thanks!
‚Paralyze is slowing speed very very well …‘ nice one arty 😂
Only ten more days until SOOP(ASL)
Go Scan Go! I choose you!
hell yeah
I've got a need, a need for IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII (Speed)
+1 for trying
Another incredible post game analysis. It’s amazing how strong Nexus first is.
BEST WAY TO START FRIDAY
Arty has lots of fun doing this and I’m happy for him :)
RT should start his rapping career already, he got what it takes. Representing Terran, yo!
Thats sam long opening "yo-yo-yo"
Omg I found a fellow triathlete starcraft fan 😂
@@asl2g4u 🤭😆😆actually yes
@@siitan83 two very very very niche hobbies/interests! We're like 1 in a million 😂. What's your strava?! I want to be strava friends!
@@asl2g4u hi... im was called actually 2nd best terran of estonia :D... but im not active now in triathlon.. no racing, just jogs, swims, small bike commutes.. i did many 70.3-s 5-7 years ago, and other triathlons 2xmarathon etc. but no strava now real data to show now.. keeping an eye on the world scene now still, and all the racing, IM, t100, and olympic tri/world triathlon. Starcraft is cool.
Love the breakdowns dude. You are the best play by play easily.
Love the post game analysis. Please continue doing it!
Hi Artosis 👋 ❤️ you and the analysis, only qualms I have are:
1. Overly preferential slant in thoughts towards Terran. I get you play Terran and such so do I yet I would be pleased somehow with just a tad less 'playing favorites'.
2. You cover the events as such with how they ought to have been handled to pan out best from players 'x' division. Would be nice to briefly rattle out the options/make note of each fork in the road.
In other words you cover 'execution of their strategy' by the players near exclusively wish alternative strategies and their feasibility were give mention more.
Basically, as an example need you always asking in analysis if/when ghosts could've been advantageous for Terran :P
No flash no chills.
BTW analysis is good!
Yo yo yo!
Yo yo yo.
where's flash ?
""Yo yo yo, what's up"
I've been intentionally answering my phone inappropriately with that exact phrase but in German for 15 years now.
That was weird to hear.
"Paralyze is slowing Speed"
Pottery.
YO YO YO I legit was about a half second away from checking if I was on the right channel 😂😂😂
speed be drippin for real no cap
I think the 10 min post mortem can be summed up with: Speed got too confident after the early obs snipe and overextended his push.
Nice explanation. Appreciate it.
07:12 -- wtf happened to that MARINE ?! O_o
Dude the triple "Yo"? Are you crazy?
What happened to Flash? Thought this was a Flash channel hehhe
I wonder what is the speed of a Scarab.
Is it faster than upgraded Zergling?
Imagine a Scarab movement speed upgrade. Definatelly will be a popular upgrade.
Idk about the opening this time 😅Keep up God's work though!
3 yo's?!?!?!?!
CHILLS!
Yo, yo, yo, Arty! I want a Z expert caster that explains in depth strategy like this
nice work mate
No. But would he still tell us if he did? We may have killed the golden goose.
Speed shoulda brought his barracks on that first push smh
love you RT
whats the matter with cross spawn? i dont understand :(
stealing my opening line! gotta add nana nanaaaa
Big fan of the new intro
The game was nice too ig
Hey Arty, when you say a build is "trending", what is the period of time you're observing over?
oh Arty
If you know how to look for it, one of the LED on top of the nexus blinks a bit off-sync when it's cross-spawn.
@artosis if speed just brought like 3 scvs doesn’t that completely change the math on the 3 tanks/vultures vs 8-9 goons? I feel like 3 scvs woulda changed a ton.
Yo, yo, yo! Nearly spit out my coffee with the new opener. Is this a cry for help?
👿🤌I HAVE RETURNED ALL HAIL THE ZERG!!!!!!!!!!!
bro.... stole my intro 😢
lol did u open with a Theory impression? nice analysis I totally agree that was a botched engage going straight for the nat. here's a consideration: he mistimed his screen switch to macro during the engage and drifted in too deep then missed seeing the reinforcing goons and all his vults melted.
8 goons is important number for tanks, but need to remember 6 is for vults. especially unsupported disjointed attacks.
Just like sieging mid battle, I hate laying mines mid battle, with the caveat that youve surrounded the targets and can magic box the mines down. just too many free hits on the vultsto place and run when VULTs are outnumbered.
I hate the thin turrets, 1 cannot kill shuttles, fast enough. If you're not building the whole turret net, dont bother, just anti dt placement.1 is only good the zoning out an obs, or a mishandled slow shuttle.. see flash's first games vs bisu on citadel for healthy turret layouts. wraith is better defense for shoddy turrets.
Curious are there PvT games where protoss builds Mass reavers instead of HTs?
he forgot to float the barracks and the engi bay for the push flash style... noob terrans cant even copy flash :P
If terran wants to push like in this match would it be better to get seige mode and mines before vulture speed? Leap frog the tanks, while the vultures keep moving near the front as the tanks take turns seiging. Would that have been a better way to try push? Anyway keep up casts Arty, and i'll keep enjoying them.
I don't know the answer to that.
What I do know is that pro gamers are insanely good & everything they do has a reason.
his Yo! Yo! Yo! sounds like Dr. Drakken
Why doesnt tvp mix a medic to flare obs midgame?
you've killed me with the opening man!
Looking at Speed's minerals and gas, he had the resources for siege mode at the 6:20 mark. Did he just forget siege mode with this push? It was suuuuper late! I think the whole game would've gone completely different if he had got siege mode in time for his push to be able to siege up at that choke by the protoss 3rd. Force a cancel on the nexus while constantly making units at home. Then make a command center as you retreat. Thoughts anyone?
he did but both addons were researching, he does start it around 6:47 once mines and speed are done
@@Zagorsek He did have a third factory without an addon and a pile of resources though. It seems to me like this timing push could be tweaked to get siege mode faster. You lose 25 seconds of build time which works out to 1.3 vultures, not a big difference if you're going to be setting up in that choke by the 3rd and you're careful at using your vultures just to lay mines outside the protoss natural in order to delay the goons from flanking your army
RT gives me the sweats.
Did Flash stop playing BW already...?
2 reaver just afking outside Terran’s base without any protection. Just make 1 wraith, snipe the shuttle :X
Yo yo yo
WHERE.IS.FLASH
Can anyone recommend some Zerg centric casters? I enjoy the enthusiasm and insight here so much that I want to learn more of the Zerg perspective.
So Artosis has actually mentioned this, part of the problem is that there are no Zergs playing at the top of the ladder. In English probably the best is Eonzerg if he's still doing that kind of thing.
yo yo yo what's up artosis
No flash? My Friday is ryuined
I do enjoy your post game Analysis. Damn that probe count was RIDICULOUS omg. The power of nexus first is truly terrifying
Moral of the story.... dont get vulture speed before siege mode.
YOyoYOhowsDAjello Artosis!
You should such a push with drop
Where Flash?
Why did you stop doing flash games ? 😑
Can we get more flash games please, my gf will watch these vids with me if it's flash
Yo yo yo what's up RT?
Yoyoyo arty
10:59 / 25:41
love you RT
THE YOYO GAVE ME CHILLS
Gm bros
murz invented nexus first
YO YO RT CAN WE GET A TVT OR TVZ!?
yo yo yo hittin ya with the nerd chills!
Omg this new intro should not be a thing. I beg you.
Excuse me for off topic, but you clearly know something. Sooo, I checked ASL's page, and it seems, the next tournament is SSL. I mean like what?? Is ASL canceled and now rebranded? Or is Liquipedia drunk?
maybe read more and it's explained?
@@kurzackd I can't read but thank you for wasting both of our time :)
Completely unimpressed by speed. I think the last game was a mess too, just very poor attacks.
gogogo
Yoyoyyoy
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how to ignore stormgate that you shilled hard
You assume he didn’t like it at all?
It's called bills... grow up
@@holdem4355 if you need bills paid dont shill TRASH GAMES
Me protoss:) Me cross spawn:) Me go nexus first:) Me win:)
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