What's the best pastel paper? Velour vs Pastelmat comparison with pastel pencils
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2024
- Finding the best pastel paper can be hard so in this comparison I'll look at two market leaders, Velour and Pastelmat. I'll show you how well they take pastel pencils, how easy it is to blend pastel pencils and how to add details.
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Favourite paper for pastels? Clairefontaine pastelmat
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0:00 - Intro
0:00 - Are the papers different
1:13 - How to cover the Velour with pastel pencils
2:39 - How to blend on Velour vs Pastelmat paper with pastel pencils
3:50 - How to draw fur on Velour paper
4:55 - Velour's secret weapon
5:36 - Timelapse pet portraits on Velour and Pastelmat
I like both, but I find the velour actually looks more realistic because even though it doesn't quite have the really fine details of the pastelmat version, the feel of the drawing is different. The shadows just look so good.
You're so right! They both look real but in different ways...I swap and change between which I like more!
I love them both equally, but for different reasons!! The velour version is so painterly and soft, and the pastel mat one more photorealistic, I think. I'm excited to try the velour--already have some on order! Thanks for sharing!
I hope you enjoy it!
I only use Velour paper and my results are fast and beautiful using PanPastels for my underpainting, then pastel pencils including Derwent and Faber Castell and I use NuPastel by Prismacolor for the super bold and bright colors (the black and the white is amazing) or for super fine lines. Nothing else compares to the results I get using this combination.
Thanks so much, I'll have to have a look at NuPastel... 'oh no' another reason to buy more art materials ;)
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Velour definitely. I love it.
Never thought I'd say this as I've never had much success with velour but I think the velour was the best! Maybe I'll dig mine out from the back of the cupboard and give it another go😊
Give it a go, Sherry! I was truly surprised by what it offered...I have some big things planned with Velour paper now!
The difference looks crazy. I think it looks like a photo on the Papermat! 😱
Nice work, Thanks for the video!
The velour has a softness to it that is appealing, but when compared side by side with the Pastelmat, I would choose the Pastelmat every time for the richness of color and the how the details stand out. I think the final choice would depend on the mood you are trying to create. For realism, the Pastelmat, but for a bit more ethereal version, the velour sure is beautiful. Great video!
I agree totally with you. I liked the softness of the velour, it has less of that photographic look.
I also really like the Velour from a distance...it draws you in more than the Pastelmat somehow.
So interesting to know about the various pencils on velour I've used velour with varying results - I think you've given me the answer. Thank you so much - I think both works great - maybe stronger colour on Pastelmat which I like.
It's been a great experience to try my familiar pencils on new paper and see what they can do!
I think its a wash. A client not having comparison would think both beautiful. I think the softer look would be well suited if the personality fit and fur and shorter hair stronger angles in a breed the PastelMat. Getting tired of paper prices and pastel hikes so considering looking into velour and using Carbathello Conte’ etc. Love the rich shadows in velour.
I think I have to agree with you! I knew this photo would suit the velour very well but something else could have been awful...and likewise...prices are getting silly!
I really like both of them thank you for your time and sharing Sandy
Thank you Sandy!
Both were beautiful, but I preferred the detail in the pastel at. Thanks for doing this comparison 😊
You can compete with pastelmat if you're after sharp details!
Big fan of you , love from India ❤️ 🇮🇳, could you please upload step by step tutorials for a beginner to master advance techniques 😊
Velour
Ah that’s why I thought velour paper wasn’t for me. I only have FC pencils! I think I marginally prefer the soft edges of the velour.
Yes! Amazing how the materials change on the surface. FC used to be the only brand for me…now not so much!
Lovely drawing. Still prefer pastelmat, it has a brightness and luminosity
It really does! I will try the Velour with more suitable pencils to see how much 'umph' it can give
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820that would be amazing Emily! Love your work.
Both were amazing!
I think I would still choose CF and Pitt, but might check the price on the velour and give it a go with cheaper pencils. I am a beginner and learning so why not.
Thank you for the video 😊
I think the Velour could be very cool for subjects where you have smooth textures...my creative mind is spinning with ideas!
I think they are both great and the merits being what efect do you want. For a sharp crisp finish with lots of details the Pastelmat is great. The Velour gives a dream like finish and I think would be great for very young or more mature pets. Very interesting.
Nice perspective...the velour gives a subject a very pensive feeling. But you do need the right photograph to work with which can be tricky for pet portraits. Nice to have both papers!
I didnt watch the whole video but a hasty look ar the last comparison, I seem to like the one on the right more
I haven't tried the velour paper yet but it does look similar to suede mat and if it is, I really like using that. I've tried pastelmat 3 times and each time it quickly went south and I never got a finished product from it. I know it has a huge following though so maybe someday I'll master it and jump on the pastelmat train. 🙂
Great info. Thank you for making the video. I really like the velour but i can’t invest anymore into buying the softer pastel pencils just to be able to use the velour.
I know the feeling...It was a painful moment when I bought three new brands for a new 'cheap' pencil comparison video (coming out soon). I quite like to collect individual pencils as I go along. It's much cheaper and gives you a feeling for each brand and which one you might want more of.
I love pastelmat ❤
Ditto!
Thank you Emily, it was a great and so much informative video.
From the two time-lapses you have shown, I definitely prefer Pastelmat, though (IMHO) you are not so comfortable with Pastelmat and work on it the same as you do on Velour.
I strongly recommend you to watch the videos of Dave Porters Art channel and see how he works on Pastelmat. I personally have learned a lot from Dave, and honestly, I have never seen anyone else with such expertise of drawing with Pastel Pencils on Pastelmat.
Once again, I appreciate all your time and effort for making this video.
Thanks for your comment Manely. I have to say I love working on pastelamt as I do with the FC pencils but have loads to learn on Velour, having never touched it before this video. Let's see what the next few creations bring!
Patrol at is brighter, but velour has better detail. There both beautiful tho!
Thank you!
Wow thank u for making thia video. i was able to use both of these 2 papers i would say they both have pros and cons. when it comes to pet portrait pastelmat is better choice but since im a human portrait artist i do love velour also.velour loves softer pastel that is why fc which is a harder pastel is not match with it.kohinoor pastel pencil match with velour that is also cheaper than the carandache.but in the end it will still depend on thw artist on how can she/he maximize the potential of the paper.like Emma Colbert she use more of velour on pet portraits.but i think the larger size will be much easier to make fur details
Totally agree! I'd love to try a large-scale velour piece of a horse. One of my favorite subjects and the opportunity to create incredible depth in the fur!
@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820yes I thought a horse in summer coat would be very interesting using the velour and softer pastel pencils. Would love to see you do this. You do horses such honour the way you express their spirit
Pastelmat for me - detail and richness of colour.
It's still my firm fave ;)
They are both fabulous but I think I prefer the velour version. I have tried velour and created a kitten on it but used too much soft pastel sticks and the pastel fell off when I took it to the framer, creating a ghost image on the glass! Amusing, but not so much after all the effort I went to. SInce then I have not used velour but I have a piece waiting for an owl portrait that is so beautiful and full of shadows. I am just scared to try again. I have been using Pastelmat all the time for my pastels and mostly have been successful with this. I love your art, and just wonder do you ever paint using an easel? I find it tricky for details
Yes I do use an easel :) When I'm not filming I usually stand to draw. Try using a mahl still to rest your hand on and keep steady :)
They both look beautiful and each paper has its +/- I do prefer the Pastel mat as I like to see more details.
Great job Emily on both versions. 🐾
Thanks Leslie! I'm excited to use the velour for very soft textures in the future :)
I prefer PastelMat more details
Is this whippet one of your full time tutorials art class on your website? Do your classes include outline drawings and reference photos of the subjects? thank you
Hi Elizabeth, this isn’t actually on the membership, although a whippet/greyhound is on my list of courses to create! You can always see what’s currently available at the bottom of the shop page, I have a photo of every course 😊
Sorry, meant pastelmat
Pastel mat is veel helder
its too bad pastelmat changed there formula the surface now has too much tooth
Velour