I think Ralph was phoned by Jackie jr but said nothing and that jackie then phoned Tony in his last plea for release. Ralph needed to know Tony didn't approve and then Ralph knew what to do. The idea Tony would've been the first guy to call is ridiculous.
The way Jackie demolished the chess board was the perfect example of his character. Impulsive, prone to anger, not willing to think things through and incapable of learning from his mistakes.
He takes the shot, slowly walks to the car, opens the door extremely slowly, sits down slowly, misses closing the door twice, and still gets away. Vito is some kind of wizard.
Common misconception is that Vito shot Jackie in the back of the head. But if you look closely, Vito's gun doesn't cycle when shot and doesn't have any blowback. This is in fact his son's cap gun that Vito used to attract Jackie's attention to tell him that Ralf and Tony agreed to give him a pass. But Jackie got scared, tripped over his own foot, fell face down into a snowdrift and subsequently drowned in three inches of snow
I like how Jackie showed his playful, gentle side with the little girl shortly before his murder. It's a hint of the the man he could have been if he'd avoided getting drawn into his family's way of life.
@@conor9195 Or even the hitman who drunkenly pissed in tonys swimming pool. Mu HAHAHAH HAHAHAH wasn't that funny to watch. And his name was Patsy, who incidentally was the twin brother of the guy, who was wacked in a car, by that very guy youve mentioned, who died while sitting on the crapper that day named Gigi, they called him. And btw both hitmen was in tonys crew strangely enough.
i always saw this a ralphie misreading tony. tony obviously wants jackie jr to live since he promised jackie he would watch over him but didn’t want to be the one to give him a pass. ralphie wanted to give him a pass but felt that he had to put his foot down and make a decision another captain would make
This is one of the most implausible murders in the series. Broad daylight, middle of the street and the parade float is somehow stealthier than Solid Snake.
To this day, I still wonder what kind of angle Vito came out at or what obstacle obstructed the view of Jackie Jr so Vito could get the jump on him like that. It's like Vito appeared out of Fat Air.
Was walking slower in the same direction than Jackie, Jackie on one side, Vito on the sidewalk... As Jackie was behind he didn't recognize Vito. When Jackie got past him and close to the car he just power-walked and clipped the guy.
I always thought the chess game was the perfect metaphor for Jackie Jr. His whole life was like that chess game. Anytime he encountered something hard, he just gave up - and not just give up, but flip the middle finger at life. Can't handle Med School? Quits and pursues mob life. Can't handle being faithful to Meadow? Decides to see who-was on the side. Can't handle being low on the mob totem pole? Tries something really dumb (robbing the card game) to jump the line. Like Omar said, he should've played things out - persevered, or at least just tried a different but intelligent approach to his goal. No Med school? Try business school or something easier. Don't cheat on Meadow - let her down gently and with respect. Don't try jumping the line in mob life - keep your head, be a reliable peon for a few years, work your way up. He didn't do any of this - Instead, he'd just give up and do something stupid to fuck everything up. Very allegorical.
ADHD really hits home with Jackie Jr! Sad really as he could of easily made it up the ranks but Tony is the boss and even when he says to give Jackie a pass, he then says do it in a timely manner. Crazy sh#t right there especially given Jackie's father and uncle both dying. Sad kid
@@fluffymassacre2918 Ehh...they had the board set up wrong. Rotated 90 degrees. The bottom right hand square should always be a light square (light on right, we used to call it). That's why the White king and queen were on the wrong squares.
I absolutely love the random insertion of Michael K. Williams, its like somehow at some point in The Wire universe it intersects with The Sopranos's and he's just playing the same character. I love it.
@Brett Mitchell Exactly. It's sort of like the Tony B thing, except Tony's love is for Jackie's already deceased father: Tony doesn't really want to do it, but he knows what needs to be done. He can't have this kid coming to a summer BBQ with Christopher and Furio! But he can pin the responsibility on Ralph, who he knows gave Jackie Jr. a gun, told him the Feech card game story and did a million other things to undermine Tony's attempts to keep the kid out of the life. And on some level, Ralph knows he is partly responsible too, which is one of the reasons he'd like the decision to be made by Tony.
Despite everybody claiming how much they loved Jackie Sr., series ended with his family completely exterminated. His brother Richie, his son Jackie Jr. and niece Adrianna.
@@masterexploder9668 I like to think it shows how much love they have for a certain person doesn't extend to the wife, child or relative simply because they share blood, hell Tony clearly hates Janice with a burning passion and wouldn't care after a week if she died but she's blood so he deals with it just like how they dealt with Jackie Jr and Richie.
Love how Michael K. Williams summarizes Jackie Jr.'s entire problem in life in a subtle way. "... you should have played it out. That's the only way you're gonna learn." Jackie Jr. never committed to anything in the show, he was always looking out for the next, better opportunity, but in doing so, he always ignored life's lessons until it was too late.
I LOLed too. Out in the wild I've seen front doors with the hinges on the outside. So I'd kind of believe someone would be dumb enough to do the lock that way.
Actually, according an interview, with the gun being so small it leaves a smaller exit wound. So they specifically chose that gun so they could have an open casket still.
It's funny and extremely sad at the same time, in the context of telling a traumatic childhood story about a (purportedly) disabled person you just killed
This death is so iconic and will never be topped (unlike Vito). Vito literally materializing out of nowhere, the gun having no recoil or kick, the way Jackie just rag dolls into the snow, the way Vito waddles to the get away car…absolute gusto.
He’s having fun with this whole situation total sociopath, putting all of it on Ralphie even tho it’s the kids step father, and letting either Jackie Jr die or everyone hates Ralphie, you can tell he was having a blast pretending to care
junior is in the clip for about 20 seconds and has the best line in the clip his delivery at the "didnt he almost drown in 3 inches of water" cracks me up
Yes, but it was still Ralph's lesson to learn. Tony rubbed his nose in it, but Ralph pushed hard to be captain and inherited Jackie Jr by dint of being with Rosalie. What's interesting is how much protocol weighs on Ralph. He actually respected the rules as much as Tony demands of others, but breaks when applied to him
They weren't playing mind games. Tony was telling him he had to whack Jackie Jr., and Ralph was trying to do everything he could to not. They both knew what to do. This was nothing more than Ralph begging for an out.
The execution scene is so laughably bad. Vito as big as he is emerges from behind absolutely nothing in the middle of the street, and Jackie falls like someone committing insurance fraud.
Yeah, how did Jackie not see Vito? There wasn't even something there for him to stand behind. Just out in the open and Jackie didn't notice him two feet away, lol.
It was deliberately done like that. The writers hated Jackie, the character and his arc. He was stupid, arrogant and also expendable. So they made his death exactly like a bad 70's crime show. Vito appears out of nowhere, the close up of the gun shows it's a toy replica, Jackie just falls straight into the only drift of snow on the street. Vito just toddles back into the get away car. It is a death scene straight out of an episode of Columbo or McMillan and wife.
I'm another disappointed with Jackie Jr's death, I wanted at least a well-done chapter in which the events that led to his death were properly prepared
"See you should have played that out, that's the only way you gonna learn" , i can't emphasize how much this line meant to me. Normally it won't mean much to me, but seeing Jackie jr's arc and this line, I reflected upon my own actions in life.
I know right, quit the game when it got hard just like med school. He should have stayed in school and played it out that's the only way he's gonna learn.
I think Tony legit didnt want Ralphie to put the hit on Jackie .Jr. But instead wanted Ralphie to look weak as a capo, by giving Jackie a pass after shooting a made man.
@@brettpilkington9539 Still not seeing the bigger picture are you ? Who told Jackie Jr about his father and Tony's old heist, and drove Jackie Jr into holding up that card game in the first place ? RALPHIE. Jackie also contacted Tony DIRECTLY (1:58), and Ralphie knew it. One small conversation between the two about how or what drove Jackie to rob the card game in the first place and, Ralphies the one who'd be sleeping with the fishes. Who do you think had more to lose ?
@@nizzanator you said Tony didn't want Jackie dead, he's telling Ralphie to do it in these scenes multiple times but you are taking his words as literal. Tony wanted Jackie dead and there was no way back for him.
@@brettpilkington9539 He didn't its just Ralpie's a dumb scumbag looking out for himself. Look answer me this what would Tony stand to gain from murdering Jackie Jr, one of his closest friend's son without even the decency to hear his side of the story ? You think Tony truly wanted to whack Jackie Jr no questions asked ?
The most devastating aspect about this scene is the fact that due to death of Jackie jr, everything that his father did was in vain. A former mob boss who's had propably hundreds of men killed and has robbed tens of millions of dollars, and all that's left from that legacy is his widow Rosalie. So that's that for providing for your family to ensure better future for them.
lol that's one of the major overarching plot points of The Sopranos. The only ones that ended up with something in the end were the ones that got out of the game early on, like Little Carmine and Beansie. Everyone else got murdered or imprisoned.
@@KoH4711 I might be wrong but it seems obvious Jackie jr reached out to Ralph "before" he did to Tony. Ralph therefore tried to get Tony's approval for giving him a pass, whilst denying he's even been contacted. So Jackie jr took his last ditch attempt at survival calling Tony because he's already given his location up to Ralph.
One thing I like about Jackie's last scene is the difference between Matush and him being the getaway drivers in the botched robbery (Matush leaving at the first shot and Jackie stealing the car and leaving Dino to die) versus a professional driver. Vito was the perfect example for this. People have pointed out how slow he was to get into the car, and that's the point. It shows that a professional driver will have the total patience to wait for even a hobbling obese man to get completely in the car, whereas a low-level driver will be too panicked under pressure and will leave his crew. A professional also knows to drive away slowly, since screeching tires and traffic violations draw even more attention.
That's a great point. Anthony Capo, who was a member later turned informant for the Jersey Mob, said something similar on his first hit (he was the driver). Vinny Ocean ordered him to drive the getaway car, but not drive away too fast or too slow either.
1:54 This part is especially important, he was basically telling Jackie that his dead father's name had only so much weight whereas Johnny Soprano was alive and well when Tony and his current men robbed that card game. EDIT: Paraphrasing Prop Joe, why do some guys think running away means hiding like 25 minutes away!
Vito is a pretty strong dude, though you got to hand it to him. There was literally zero visible recoil when he shot that firearm. He even managed to keep the slide from moving at all! True professional. He absorbed that recoil better than he absorbed all those guys in the club.
Incredible scene between T and Ralph. How Tony put the responsibility to him as it was hia best friends son that he promised to take care of. Then the symbolism of the last chess game. Jackie, a pawn in the world of Cosa Nostra, tried to move two spots when he couldn't, which is exactly what he did in the card game robbery. Wanted to skip ahead to get made quickly... The rest is history.
Also Jackie is told after sweeping away the pieces “he shoulda played that out, otherwise he’ll never learn”, which is precisely how he behaved the whole series, never facing smaller consequences until he hit the biggest consequence.
"See if you can figure out the difference." Tony handing Jackie a layup and he still couldn't nail it. The difference was that nobody got hurt and his father was still alive to protect him.
They shot this scene in Patterson, not "the Boonton projects." (There are no projects in Boonton) Ironically, Vito ends up hiding out in "Dartford, NH," which was filmed in Boonton.
All kidding aside, I do like how they give King Douche Jackie a redeeming moment when he kids around with the little girl before he leaves the apartment.
You gotta love Tony for trying to pull a slick move on Ralpie by trying to put the idea of giving Jackie a pass in his head. He hated Ralph and wanted him to give Jackie a pass just so he would be disrespected by everyone. He was always trying to humiliate and kill Ralphie slowly.
Tony was pissed off because he was forced to give the capo position to Ralphie to reduce tension between them yet Ralph wasn't assuming responsibility for his actions that drove Jackie to his downfall. I dont think Tony was trying to humillate him at least at this point in the story, he was rushing him to make a decision.
Idk if he had those sorts of intentions. I wouldnt put it past him...but you cant forget how close Jackie was to everyone. Meadow was dating him for a time, Ralph was with his mother, all the guys worked with his dad...etc. I could legit see Tony going easy on him.
Even though the Sopranos was over by the time of his passing, I really miss James Gandolfini and the skill he had as an actor. He was also a good man to boot.
I'm 100% assured the scene where Jackie Jr. gets shot was made in a hurry. The editing was horrible, the sound effect for the gun was horribe, the gun itself was a miserably bad prop, Jackie Jr. fell on a pile of snow that just happened to be on the side of the road, with some red spraypaint on it.
Agree 100%. Whoever the assistant director was for this episode really ought to feel bad about this scene. It's worse than stuff from 80s low-budget productions. And they could have fixed it after it aired, but chose not to for some reason. I mean, that prop gun deliberately doesn't look like an actual gun, because it's not meant to be used in close ups... so what do they do? Close up. No level of rush can explain that incompetence.
I honestly like the low quality nature of the scene. It’s almost even more humiliating for Jackie jr even if that’s not the intention I just find it so comical that this is the scene how he’s killed and it’s kinda a shitty and stupid scene completely devoid of logic lol.
I like how he passed the big Vito without noticing him... just a shot before that he was walking the practically empty street, and all of a sudden big Vito popped into existence, and then the car popped into existence, while Jackie fell into a pile of show covered in blood. Whole pile of snow bloody as if he was shot with a elephant rifle. Yet it all works in a cut. Amazing show.
I'm assuming the idea was that Vito was sat in the car waiting. Jackie passes by, he gets out, walks up behind him, then once he's taken the shot the car catches up with him and he very, very slowly gets into the car. But yeah, this scene could've been shot better.
I love that they used Michael K Williams who played Omar in the Wire in that scene. Pretty cool they intertwined because of Omar’s character and the difference between Omar and Jackie Jr as far as approach/strategy of their characters. Omar was everything Jackie Jr wished he was.
The way Tony is poking fun at Ralphie here is hilarious, he's enjoying the irony. Ralphie whined/ begged to be capo, and as soon as he is, he's got the decision placed in front of him to put a hit on his nephew or look weak and losing face. Tony's "You did the best you could, didn't you?" is such a middle finger, like of course Tony knows Ralphie didn't have any positive influence on Jackie Jr. and prob knows he coaxed Jackie into the robbery. If only he wasn't capo, least he wouldn't have the guilt of killing his dead friends only son lol
Tony out-manoeuvring Ralphy at every turn is brilliant. Ralphy is desperately trying to manipulate Tony to give the order so it doesn't come back to him but Tony is having none of it.
Watching this now, it occurs to me that the brief chess game & dialogue shown from 2:54-3:17 is a metaphor for Jackie's entire experience with the mob.
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Lmao 😅 yes he was
How does a 400lb man who wobbles sneak up on anyone ?
The jacket!!
LOL
Jackie didn't have a chance, Vito was a real come from behind kind of guy.
They didnt force him to be gay until later
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Vito always likes it from behind.
@@robertpreston2220 No one forced him. It was his idea.
@@mbriancohen he didnt want to do it but its his job
I'm surprised Jackie Jr didn't notice the sun being suddenly blocked out
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I think Ralph was phoned by Jackie jr but said nothing and that jackie then phoned Tony in his last plea for release. Ralph needed to know Tony didn't approve and then Ralph knew what to do. The idea Tony would've been the first guy to call is ridiculous.
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Vito was so glad that Jackie was walking down the road and not uphill when he clipped him
Wasim Mohammed 😅😂🤣
Lmao!
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The fat fuck was still out of breath.
He should seriously consider salads.
The way Jackie demolished the chess board was the perfect example of his character. Impulsive, prone to anger, not willing to think things through and incapable of learning from his mistakes.
Scorcese ovah here
kid had so much potentials. He knew the capital of Canada.
all he had to do was six months, now he'll be in there forever
Special agen Vito has the stealth of a parade float
"OHHH IM A CAPTAIN NOW"!!
Haha
flacko001 “captain? The good ship lollipop, right?!”
Its true
It took Vito longer to get in the car than to do the hit.
He takes the shot, slowly walks to the car, opens the door extremely slowly, sits down slowly, misses closing the door twice, and still gets away. Vito is some kind of wizard.
I took a look at how this hit went down. This Vito is more creative then Spielburg.
@@huddlechannel2932 lmfaoooo
He has this type of luck with poker too lol
Walk ? That dude was waddling like a penguin 😂
So? Who is going to stop him?
I'm surprised the bullet had enough speed to achieve the escape velocity required to overcome Vito's gravity.
Good one.
It was a Saturn 5 bullet.
You get 👍🏼👍🏼
@@lawrencelewis2592 3-stage burn.
I’m surprised Jackie didn’t feel the major earthquake getting closer to him.
Love the OG Resident Evil pistol sound effect, even the casing hitting the ground included as well. Nice eater egg
I recognized it too lol
YOOOOOOOO I KNEW IT SOUNDED FAMILIAR💪🏾🔥🫡 great observation
I thought I was the only person who recognises sound effects like that…like how the reuse the sound of doors closing in DOOM 2 literally everywhere
Especially when no casing was ejected 😂
TH-camrs when they discover "stock sound effects"
Vito’s getaway was the slowest in history
2fast4ulsr 😂😂😂😂
Thats the cars max speed with Vito on board.
And this guy later claimed He should be the Boss because of his great health! Fat Fuck! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Well you can imagine the steering would be borderline impossible.
You're forgetting Lamar npc in gta
Common misconception is that Vito shot Jackie in the back of the head. But if you look closely, Vito's gun doesn't cycle when shot and doesn't have any blowback. This is in fact his son's cap gun that Vito used to attract Jackie's attention to tell him that Ralf and Tony agreed to give him a pass. But Jackie got scared, tripped over his own foot, fell face down into a snowdrift and subsequently drowned in three inches of snow
Kid was always a dumb fuck
Dats ona count ov-da learnin disorda
the penguin exhibit...
Wow I never knew this truly brilliant writing
I did not see where you were going with that and literally laughed out loud
Well played sir.
I like how Jackie showed his playful, gentle side with the little girl shortly before his murder. It's a hint of the the man he could have been if he'd avoided getting drawn into his family's way of life.
I never noticed that, he probably could've been a family man with meadow, great with his own kids and what not. Crazy.
I think it's more about his refusal to learn, and to just want to do things the easy way.
@@joeperera8145 it's gotta be both tho, considering the genius of the shows creator
@@vanillachungus9546 Would've had a lot of kids with Meadow. She was creamin' for him.
Same with when he's teaching AJ football. Saddest thing in the world is wasted potential.
When Jackie walked by Vito he didn’t worry because he thought it was just Gino on his way to the bakery.
Maybe he was wearing his biker disguised. Even sal had a hard time believing he was him
Poor Jackie, killed by a teleporting parade float with a spud gun. What an embarrassing way to go out.
Well he did almost drown in 3 inches of water
Jackie Jr.s whole life was pretty much embarrassing.
He’s a captain, you can’t talk to him like that!
Not as bad as the hitman who died on the shitter
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Or even the hitman who drunkenly pissed in tonys swimming pool. Mu HAHAHAH HAHAHAH wasn't that funny to watch. And his name was Patsy, who incidentally was the twin brother of the guy, who was wacked in a car, by that very guy youve mentioned, who died while sitting on the crapper that day named Gigi, they called him. And btw both hitmen was in tonys crew strangely enough.
There was nothing we could do about it. Vito was a made guy and the suspension wasn’t.
And the car had to sit still and take it. It was among the Italians it was real greaseball shit
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There was nothing we could do about it. Denny Hala was a friggin mamaluke and the op wasn’t.
Bruh this comment is amazing😂😂😂
Real greaseball shit
Vito spawns in behind,
"Nothing personal, kid."
personnel
@@Terf1988 Personnel: people employed in an organization or engaged in an organized undertaking such as military service.
@@ampersandman757- I thought you were going for the coldsteel the hedgeheg meme which is "personnel". but I guess not.
@Starscream91 That's really interesting, but I sure don't care
Starscream91 lol, you sound like a pretty fucking big nerd
Jackie Jr in 2 inches of snow: 🐟
Vito: 🐧
You oined my like kid
@SrJr272 Oined?
@@insouciantforce7640 you gotta watch The Penguin 🤣🤣
@@SrJr272 Ohh haha, gotcha
Tony passive aggressively telling Ralph he has to order the hit, such great writing.
i always saw this a ralphie misreading tony. tony obviously wants jackie jr to live since he promised jackie he would watch over him but didn’t want to be the one to give him a pass. ralphie wanted to give him a pass but felt that he had to put his foot down and make a decision another captain would make
@@drbone3959Tony did NOT WANT HIM TO LIVE
@@drbone3959 Yes Tony looks absolutely heartbroken as he stuffs his face with more food
@@drbone3959I agree. If Tony wanted him dead he wouldn't have said "I don't wanna know" to jackie telling him where he is.
"He called me" with that wry smile Tony was like 'Do something NOW'
This is one of the most implausible murders in the series. Broad daylight, middle of the street and the parade float is somehow stealthier than Solid Snake.
Bad Neighboorhood and everyone knew that Jackie was a walking dead man
On the surface it seems so. But I dont think anyone in that hood is gonna be snitching.
It doesn't look like that bad of a neighborhood
No the Chucky fish one lol
@Ben Franklin hahahah was thinking the same thing. No one would turn a blind eye for that prick on the streets
To this day, I still wonder what kind of angle Vito came out at or what obstacle obstructed the view of Jackie Jr so Vito could get the jump on him like that.
It's like Vito appeared out of Fat Air.
Jackie Jr almost drowned in 3 inches of water. Vito managing to sneak up on him is almost nothing compared to that.
@@borko1990 "hes a come from behind kind of guy"
He flew in from the Macy's day parade.
He popped down from his hot air balloon, The Good Ship Lollipop...heh heh heh...
Was walking slower in the same direction than Jackie, Jackie on one side, Vito on the sidewalk...
As Jackie was behind he didn't recognize Vito.
When Jackie got past him and close to the car he just power-walked and clipped the guy.
The writers hated him so much that they purposely gave him such a silly death.
You know what they say: walk heavily and carry a small gun.
MSimp2k6 Yep, that is the famous statement.
LuckyDT I like this statement 😄
hahahahaha
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I don’t think that’s it 🤔 💭
I always thought the chess game was the perfect metaphor for Jackie Jr. His whole life was like that chess game. Anytime he encountered something hard, he just gave up - and not just give up, but flip the middle finger at life. Can't handle Med School? Quits and pursues mob life. Can't handle being faithful to Meadow? Decides to see who-was on the side. Can't handle being low on the mob totem pole? Tries something really dumb (robbing the card game) to jump the line.
Like Omar said, he should've played things out - persevered, or at least just tried a different but intelligent approach to his goal. No Med school? Try business school or something easier. Don't cheat on Meadow - let her down gently and with respect. Don't try jumping the line in mob life - keep your head, be a reliable peon for a few years, work your way up. He didn't do any of this - Instead, he'd just give up and do something stupid to fuck everything up.
Very allegorical.
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He reminds me of everyone I went to college with who had a shotty work ethic yet swore when they dropped out they were gonna be the next Bezos
That’s why the end of this scene is important with what Tony was saying
ADHD really hits home with Jackie Jr! Sad really as he could of easily made it up the ranks but Tony is the boss and even when he says to give Jackie a pass, he then says do it in a timely manner. Crazy sh#t right there especially given Jackie's father and uncle both dying. Sad kid
I know someone who fits that description. I wonder if I should whack him....
"I think you're done for." Savage foreshadowing by Omar...
Well did you see the board, the way she was developing her knights he didn’t have a chance.
@@fluffymassacre2918 Ehh...they had the board set up wrong. Rotated 90 degrees. The bottom right hand square should always be a light square (light on right, we used to call it). That's why the White king and queen were on the wrong squares.
@@fluffymassacre2918 Jackie Jnr never had the makings of a varsity chess Grandmaster. Small hands, that was his problem...
Funny how Omar (gay) tells him he’s done for and Vito (gay) “does” him
Bro I noticed that too! Also “you should’ve played that out, it’s the only way you’re gonna learn”
I love how Tony was just trying so hard to shift the responsibility onto Ralph.
Pfp kawaii
He already tried to separate him from pursuing this life. When Ritchie was around.
I absolutely love the random insertion of Michael K. Williams, its like somehow at some point in The Wire universe it intersects with The Sopranos's and he's just playing the same character.
I love it.
They had to bring it all together with the Boardwalk Empire universe.
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Plot twist: Omar was Vito's goomah. He was in town to stuff him with his gabbagool, capisce?
@@WhatAHorribleNight 😂😂😂
What about The two kids from Baltimore at the semi hijack? The one in the red jersey is Bodie.
‘You know all this, you’re a captain’
Love the sarcastic smirk on tony’s face. I promoted you like you wanted, so start acting like you earned it
Ozymandias83 what do you think Tony wanted ?
@Brett Mitchell Exactly. It's sort of like the Tony B thing, except Tony's love is for Jackie's already deceased father: Tony doesn't really want to do it, but he knows what needs to be done. He can't have this kid coming to a summer BBQ with Christopher and Furio! But he can pin the responsibility on Ralph, who he knows gave Jackie Jr. a gun, told him the Feech card game story and did a million other things to undermine Tony's attempts to keep the kid out of the life. And on some level, Ralph knows he is partly responsible too, which is one of the reasons he'd like the decision to be made by Tony.
Great explanation mate. Thanks.
Despite everybody claiming how much they loved Jackie Sr., series ended with his family completely exterminated. His brother Richie, his son Jackie Jr. and niece Adrianna.
@@masterexploder9668 I like to think it shows how much love they have for a certain person doesn't extend to the wife, child or relative simply because they share blood, hell Tony clearly hates Janice with a burning passion and wouldn't care after a week if she died but she's blood so he deals with it just like how they dealt with Jackie Jr and Richie.
Love how Michael K. Williams summarizes Jackie Jr.'s entire problem in life in a subtle way. "... you should have played it out. That's the only way you're gonna learn." Jackie Jr. never committed to anything in the show, he was always looking out for the next, better opportunity, but in doing so, he always ignored life's lessons until it was too late.
He just wanted to do it before the crank wore off.
Very allegorical.
@@brettpilkington9539 He shoulda went down to the shore with Matush and the gang instead.
Mind blown
Im gonna design men’s suits
3:30... The lock for addition security... The door opens inwards
Bruh lmao
I LOLed too. Out in the wild I've seen front doors with the hinges on the outside. So I'd kind of believe someone would be dumb enough to do the lock that way.
He even shot him in the back of the head so his mother couldn’t have an open upside down casket at the funeral.
wtf xD
The bullet was a made guy, and Jackie Jr wasn’t
And that's that.
Franky Ramone And Bruce had to sit there and take it.
Actually, according an interview, with the gun being so small it leaves a smaller exit wound. So they specifically chose that gun so they could have an open casket still.
the best part of this scene is how vito creeps all cat-like out of nowhere but then takes 5 minutes to get into the getaway car
Yes hahaha
Jackie didn't notice him as he walked past - Vito was standing behind a light post........
What I was thinking; slowest getaway ever.
Hitman no one said escape artist
Because it was a '90 Ford Tempo Sedan. Vito is a Lincoln Mark VIII kind of guy!
“Kid was always a dumb fuck though wasn’t he? Didn’t he almost drown in 3 inches of water?” “The penguin exhibit”
Lol I almost choked
Classic!!!😂😅
It's funny and extremely sad at the same time, in the context of telling a traumatic childhood story about a (purportedly) disabled person you just killed
@@IdiotDoomSpiral69 Being stupid is not a disability.
yea we all watcwhed the clip
This death is so iconic and will never be topped (unlike Vito). Vito literally materializing out of nowhere, the gun having no recoil or kick, the way Jackie just rag dolls into the snow, the way Vito waddles to the get away car…absolute gusto.
Tony is never more terrifying than when he smiles.
He can be very sarcastic and passive aggressive
Tony smiley at you = shitting your pants.
He’s having fun with this whole situation total sociopath, putting all of it on Ralphie even tho it’s the kids step father, and letting either Jackie Jr die or everyone hates Ralphie, you can tell he was having a blast pretending to care
Rest in Peace Michael K. Williams, 1966-2021. You were a great actor.
@qayçı መዝለል Troll
He was great as Chalky. None of us are free.
If you come at the king, you best not miss.
never heard of him
It’s sad to know there’s people out here who haven’t seen the wire
Excellently played. Jackie learned the most valuable lesson of his life before dying.
Develop your knights?
@@davidcoalson2149Play things out instead of just throwing in the towel so early
That he's not his fawtha
@@alistairwalker2850 That's exactly what developing your knights means.
@@mkultra2456 ...no?
Vito has some 100 level sneak skills.
Vito was able to kill Jackie because he walked 2 miles every morning
to the bakery?
Also has sugar after all his meals.. Its part of the program
Lmao
also that lasso move he's been doing in gay clubs probably helped 🤣
Gothamlover 69 HAHA
Jackie Jr: (at 3:17) "I'm going down the park, see Bruce. You guys need anything?"
Omar: "A pack of Newports and some Honey Nut Cheerios."
Ay yo run it's Omar OMAR COMIN
The little girl was smiling cos she was waiting for a blunt.
Bro lmao that’s some gettho shit right there hahaha. I heard that shit before lmao
@@elijahjones7002 with his shotgun and shit
That’s hilarious!
I like how Vito kept his concealment behind a telephone pole so Jackie couldn’t see him.
Underrated comment
😂😂😂😂😂
I always wondered how Vito was able to sneak up behind Jackie Jr?
The answer was revealed later in the show, showing Vito was "light in the loafers".
"I wanna give the kid a pass. He could probably get a letter from his doctor."
"A note from his doctor saying stupidity would be a learning disorder?"
Matty 👏🏾
A note from his doctor saying he won’t drown in three inches of water?
Tone, supidity?!? Nobody's got stupidity!!! I don't wanna hear that word in here again!!!
Wasn’t he in medical school
A note from the doctor excusing gay urges because of blood pressure medication 💊
This is more or less a shortened version of what used to be a 9 minute video that was taken down by HBO
Those muthafuckas. THOSE MUTHAFUCKAS.
What are you gonna do, they are part of a whole generation.. Remember the crazy hair? And the dope? Now it's (you know what) in HBO
I don't like to Charmingly Cynical, but I've got agita all the time.
Just tell 'em you're the boss of this family for chrissakes
What? It’s good enough for HBO but not for ‘Little Lord Fuckpants’?
junior is in the clip for about 20 seconds and has the best line in the clip his delivery at the "didnt he almost drown in 3 inches of water" cracks me up
"The penguin exhibit" lmao
After robbing the card game, Jackie Jr goes into hiding by going into another HBO show
I wish Tony played mind games like this more often, he pushes Ralph to do what he wants while making it feel like it's Ralph's own choice.
Yeah rewatching it it’s disturbing how he knows how to push Ralph’s buttons so easily
Yes, but it was still Ralph's lesson to learn. Tony rubbed his nose in it, but Ralph pushed hard to be captain and inherited Jackie Jr by dint of being with Rosalie. What's interesting is how much protocol weighs on Ralph. He actually respected the rules as much as Tony demands of others, but breaks when applied to him
Jackie jr sad end was his responsability.... his influence on the dumb kid was devastating.
He don't like Ralph if Ralph wouldn't have had him wacked tony had a reason to wack Ralph and Jackie
They weren't playing mind games. Tony was telling him he had to whack Jackie Jr., and Ralph was trying to do everything he could to not. They both knew what to do. This was nothing more than Ralph begging for an out.
The execution scene is so laughably bad. Vito as big as he is emerges from behind absolutely nothing in the middle of the street, and Jackie falls like someone committing insurance fraud.
Yeah, how did Jackie not see Vito? There wasn't even something there for him to stand behind. Just out in the open and Jackie didn't notice him two feet away, lol.
It was deliberately done like that. The writers hated Jackie, the character and his arc. He was stupid, arrogant and also expendable. So they made his death exactly like a bad 70's crime show. Vito appears out of nowhere, the close up of the gun shows it's a toy replica, Jackie just falls straight into the only drift of snow on the street. Vito just toddles back into the get away car.
It is a death scene straight out of an episode of Columbo or McMillan and wife.
@@graphite2786 I read some postulation that they originally wanted to do more with the character but he people didn't like the character.
@@linkingwithnaz1295 I also heard that the actor who played him was "unprofessional on set" whatever that meant
I'm another disappointed with Jackie Jr's death, I wanted at least a well-done chapter in which the events that led to his death were properly prepared
He was shot by a penguin. Penguins have always tried to kill him.
Great moment to remind you this comment😂
Well, one finally got him😂
Pengwin*
@@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane He was not! No he did not! No he didn't! No he wasn't!
Penguins have a dark side.
I wonder how out of breath Vito Spatafore, Sr. was when he finally got to the car.
If you can't see a 400 lb dude sneaking up on you then maybe you just aren't cut out for the streets. RIP Jackie Jr.
A 400 lb dude who is also his cousin.
@@YD-uq5fiwait it was his cousin that killed him so fucking easyily? lol
And hear him huffing and puffing, but the kid always was a dumb f*ck. Nearly drowned in 3" of water.
LOL !!! That was a good one ! LOL !!!
He was canonically light in the loafers.
It took vito about 5mins to get in that car...
Shfouyadell in his azz
I don't understand how Jackie didn't see that fat walrus sneaking up on him
Tamaz Okruashvili take it easy
@@spoda81 vito was like John wick.
"See you should have played that out, that's the only way you gonna learn" , i can't emphasize how much this line meant to me. Normally it won't mean much to me, but seeing Jackie jr's arc and this line, I reflected upon my own actions in life.
Very allegorical.
@@PhilLeotardosGhost Reminds me of Sun Tazoo
Charles Schwab ova here
Noah had an ark
X
the front suspension of the getaway car was the real hero
The metaphor of the chess game and Jackies life is spot on .
I know right, quit the game when it got hard just like med school. He should have stayed in school and played it out that's the only way he's gonna learn.
@@VolatileSmile also his impatience. Didnt want to wait . Wanted it all without putting in effort
Thought the same thing
I liked the way Tony was subtle the way he "ordered" Ralph to put the hit on Jackie Jr. This show had some great writing.
I think Tony legit didnt want Ralphie to put the hit on Jackie .Jr. But instead wanted Ralphie to look weak as a capo, by giving Jackie a pass after shooting a made man.
@@nizzanator no he 100% wanted Jackie dead, he hit made guys, there's no way back from that.
@@brettpilkington9539 Still not seeing the bigger picture are you ? Who told Jackie Jr about his father and Tony's old heist, and drove Jackie Jr into holding up that card game in the first place ? RALPHIE. Jackie also contacted Tony DIRECTLY (1:58), and Ralphie knew it. One small conversation between the two about how or what drove Jackie to rob the card game in the first place and, Ralphies the one who'd be sleeping with the fishes. Who do you think had more to lose ?
@@nizzanator you said Tony didn't want Jackie dead, he's telling Ralphie to do it in these scenes multiple times but you are taking his words as literal. Tony wanted Jackie dead and there was no way back for him.
@@brettpilkington9539 He didn't its just Ralpie's a dumb scumbag looking out for himself. Look answer me this what would Tony stand to gain from murdering Jackie Jr, one of his closest friend's son without even the decency to hear his side of the story ? You think Tony truly wanted to whack Jackie Jr no questions asked ?
3:50
Vito getting into a car....the struggle is real
The 20 feet he walked to the car was the real struggle.
💀💀
You can almost hear the car crying.
@@NickThorbjørnsen2207 😅🤣😅😅😅😅😅😅
Can u describe the shooter ma'am? Fat! He was very, very, fat.
The only thing more unrealistic than that gun is Vito being able to sneak up behind a guy….
The most devastating aspect about this scene is the fact that due to death of Jackie jr, everything that his father did was in vain. A former mob boss who's had propably hundreds of men killed and has robbed tens of millions of dollars, and all that's left from that legacy is his widow Rosalie. So that's that for providing for your family to ensure better future for them.
The Apriles did have a daughter
"Hundreds of men".
Dude, theyre mafia not soldiers.
lol that's one of the major overarching plot points of The Sopranos. The only ones that ended up with something in the end were the ones that got out of the game early on, like Little Carmine and Beansie. Everyone else got murdered or imprisoned.
Good. Máfia scum and their family can beg in the streets
@@KoH4711 I might be wrong but it seems obvious Jackie jr reached out to Ralph "before" he did to Tony. Ralph therefore tried to get Tony's approval for giving him a pass, whilst denying he's even been contacted. So Jackie jr took his last ditch attempt at survival calling Tony because he's already given his location up to Ralph.
Vito nearly fell down the hill getting in the car.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
One thing I like about Jackie's last scene is the difference between Matush and him being the getaway drivers in the botched robbery (Matush leaving at the first shot and Jackie stealing the car and leaving Dino to die) versus a professional driver.
Vito was the perfect example for this. People have pointed out how slow he was to get into the car, and that's the point. It shows that a professional driver will have the total patience to wait for even a hobbling obese man to get completely in the car, whereas a low-level driver will be too panicked under pressure and will leave his crew. A professional also knows to drive away slowly, since screeching tires and traffic violations draw even more attention.
That's a great point. Anthony Capo, who was a member later turned informant for the Jersey Mob, said something similar on his first hit (he was the driver). Vinny Ocean ordered him to drive the getaway car, but not drive away too fast or too slow either.
@@billymarino4452
Yeah he drove away at just the -- right -- fucking -- speed. It was a beautiful thing
*Even the comment likes are the same - HAHAHHAHAHAHHHA*
True that white boy true that
Lol it's amazing what ideas people will come up with as to what the writers "meant"
I'm amazed that Jackie didn't feel the ground shaking from Vitos footsteps right behind him.
It was actually registered on the Richter scale
"Vito coming yo!"
Its all in the buffet yo..
Lol
Jackie Jr was out here playing checkers on a chess board
Hahaha. This is the comment I have been looking for!
😂
1:54 This part is especially important, he was basically telling Jackie that his dead father's name had only so much weight whereas Johnny Soprano was alive and well when Tony and his current men robbed that card game. EDIT: Paraphrasing Prop Joe, why do some guys think running away means hiding like 25 minutes away!
Also they didn’t kill a guy, shoot at several made guys, and injure one of them too. Also Tony, Silvio, and Jackie Sr weren’t complete airheads.
@@marac200 they weren't on crank either
Not to mention Johnny and Junior were big fellas in the New Jersey crew along with Richie
@Gaylord Milton they clearly were not. Tony and his crew had brains unlike the Jackie "out of respect to my fawther" imbecile crew 💀
@Gaylord Milton you wanna talk to the foreskin?
Im so glad Vito got into the car so fast for a quick getaway. Like a ninja
Vito had the makings of a varsity athlete Phil loved him like a bodybuilder.
That gun didnt even cycle lmao hilarious 😂
3:45 even Vito’s gun is gay
Underrated comment.
Hey its a gun lol if it shoots its good to go lol
Lmfaoooo
Holy fuck. I’m cracking up. It is a little shit gun though 😂.
lmaaaao riiiiiight wasent a very masculine gunshot 😂🤣🤣
Everybody knows that hit was contracted out to Gino from the donut shop
Gino used donuts for a disguise when doing hits. He'd throw a box of donuts at the target and yell catch.
And he can come back to the front of the line, because Poppin' Fresh SAID he could.
@@JackieAprileJr Whoa it was the other way around. He was catching, not pitching
Vito is a pretty strong dude, though you got to hand it to him. There was literally zero visible recoil when he shot that firearm. He even managed to keep the slide from moving at all! True professional. He absorbed that recoil better than he absorbed all those guys in the club.
Had to be a reason why this show fumbled it's gunplay so badly
Well you see this is actually an of brand version of the british welrod. it only ejects the casing once you pull the slide back manually.
@@tommygunmitvierm724 My God! I feel so stupid...
Vito was made guy to strongly grip on things. Especially meat
But a shell casing sound effect plays…
The bucket of KFC at 3:28 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gold
Why would they put that there?🤷🏼♂️💀
Lmaoooooo white man in the corner 😂
Incredible scene between T and Ralph. How Tony put the responsibility to him as it was hia best friends son that he promised to take care of. Then the symbolism of the last chess game. Jackie, a pawn in the world of Cosa Nostra, tried to move two spots when he couldn't, which is exactly what he did in the card game robbery. Wanted to skip ahead to get made quickly... The rest is history.
Very allegorical
Also Jackie is told after sweeping away the pieces “he shoulda played that out, otherwise he’ll never learn”, which is precisely how he behaved the whole series, never facing smaller consequences until he hit the biggest consequence.
The sacred AND the propane.@@rosiesdewband1353
And he was going to get bumped ahead of everyone else no matter what he did because of who his dad was anyway.
@@rosiesdewband1353The sacred and the propane
"See if you can figure out the difference."
Tony handing Jackie a layup and he still couldn't nail it. The difference was that nobody got hurt and his father was still alive to protect him.
*Ritchie
He only died outta respect for his father
HHahahahaha
*fawtha
Fo ma fawtha
U mean his Fawtha
"Good gravy today."
"Oh thank you, it's just red and water."
Producers:How do we really let the audience know Jackie is staying with Black People in the hood?
Writers: I got you fam
3:29
Supreme Keem BRUH
Supreme Keem 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They shot this scene in Patterson, not "the Boonton projects."
(There are no projects in Boonton)
Ironically, Vito ends up hiding out in "Dartford, NH," which was filmed in Boonton.
🤣 🤣 🤣
After all these years, I never noticed that. 😂😂😂
All kidding aside, I do like how they give King Douche Jackie a redeeming moment when he kids around with the little girl before he leaves the apartment.
You gotta love Tony for trying to pull a slick move on Ralpie by trying to put the idea of giving Jackie a pass in his head. He hated Ralph and wanted him to give Jackie a pass just so he would be disrespected by everyone. He was always trying to humiliate and kill Ralphie slowly.
Tony was pissed off because he was forced to give the capo position to Ralphie to reduce tension between them yet Ralph wasn't assuming responsibility for his actions that drove Jackie to his downfall. I dont think Tony was trying to humillate him at least at this point in the story, he was rushing him to make a decision.
Idk if he had those sorts of intentions. I wouldnt put it past him...but you cant forget how close Jackie was to everyone. Meadow was dating him for a time, Ralph was with his mother, all the guys worked with his dad...etc. I could legit see Tony going easy on him.
@@finsfan90 He killed his own cousin for less
No they both knew what had to be done. They were trying to pass the buck off on each other.
I think you misread the scene. Tony was implicitly telling Ralph he had to kill Jackie, and quick.
I love how the only mound of snow in the neighbourhood is positioned just perfectly for Jackie to fall on it
I love how vito just walked out of nowhere and shot him, then took like 40 minutes to get into the getaway car 😂😂😂😂 what is this shit?!
"You said he was a getaway hitman, wtf can he get away from?"
Even though the Sopranos was over by the time of his passing, I really miss James Gandolfini and the skill he had as an actor. He was also a good man to boot.
I doubt he was a good man, lol.
@@sugaashow Why not?
My heart is deeply sadden. Michael K. Williams has passed away yesterday afternoon. Rest In Peace 💔🕯🙏🏽
I had to google his name.. that’s OMAR from the wire!! 🥺🥺🥺 god took him too soon
@qayçı መዝለል im not crying youre crying😞
Damn it.. 💔💔
@qayçı መዝለል Why?
@@redcommander27 i think its a reference to one of his characters.
jackie copied the united healthcare ceo
I'm 100% assured the scene where Jackie Jr. gets shot was made in a hurry. The editing was horrible, the sound effect for the gun was horribe, the gun itself was a miserably bad prop, Jackie Jr. fell on a pile of snow that just happened to be on the side of the road, with some red spraypaint on it.
Agree 100%. Whoever the assistant director was for this episode really ought to feel bad about this scene. It's worse than stuff from 80s low-budget productions. And they could have fixed it after it aired, but chose not to for some reason.
I mean, that prop gun deliberately doesn't look like an actual gun, because it's not meant to be used in close ups... so what do they do? Close up. No level of rush can explain that incompetence.
idk even with all that i still love this scene honestly.
Obviously a cap gun. Slide didn't even move. What a poor scene.
Stage guns are used throughout the show. Not just here....looks terrible.
I honestly like the low quality nature of the scene. It’s almost even more humiliating for Jackie jr even if that’s not the intention I just find it so comical that this is the scene how he’s killed and it’s kinda a shitty and stupid scene completely devoid of logic lol.
I like how he passed the big Vito without noticing him... just a shot before that he was walking the practically empty street, and all of a sudden big Vito popped into existence, and then the car popped into existence, while Jackie fell into a pile of show covered in blood. Whole pile of snow bloody as if he was shot with a elephant rifle. Yet it all works in a cut. Amazing show.
The car appearing suddenly is somewhat believable, because cars can move fast. Vito on the other hand...
@@VinOptimaxxxHe's a come from behind kinda guy.
The gun looked like a kid's water pistol too. They must have filmed this scene at 1630 on a friday.
I'm assuming the idea was that Vito was sat in the car waiting. Jackie passes by, he gets out, walks up behind him, then once he's taken the shot the car catches up with him and he very, very slowly gets into the car. But yeah, this scene could've been shot better.
You'd think you'd hear Vito coming from a mile away. I always figured his leather jacket sounds like two balloons rubbing together 🤣🤣🤣
don't forget he was in the CIA
The writers purposely made his death as stupid as possible because they hated the character Jackie Jr (not the actor).
Jackie had to go the fact that he couldn't hear that Rhino coming up behind him showed his lack of mental alertness.
I love that they used Michael K Williams who played Omar in the Wire in that scene. Pretty cool they intertwined because of Omar’s character and the difference between Omar and Jackie Jr as far as approach/strategy of their characters. Omar was everything Jackie Jr wished he was.
Jackie Jr wished he was black? And gay?
@@mkultra2456 no, a real gangster that people feared and respected based solely on his name😂
@@JacobC479 "Omar *_cummin!"_*
Both were shot dead at young ages.
I love how Tony just kept dialling up the pressure on Ralphie and saying it was his decision, but in the background Jackie Jr was always toast lol
Didn't he almost drown in 3 inches of water 😂😂
''What's the capital of canada" 🇨🇦
Purple Sword 5 Martin luttter king
‘ kid was always a dumb fuck”
LoL 😂😂 😂😂 😂😂 😂
The penguin exhibit
3:35 Jackie looks like Claude from GTA 3 😂😂😂😂😂
Vito just materialised behind Jackie.
That's a whole lotta material.
As jackie laid in the snow, having his last thoughts of this life, he gently whispered his final words "my fatha"
Legend has it, that Vito is still trying to get into that car.
Face down straight into the penguin exhibit.
The way Tony is poking fun at Ralphie here is hilarious, he's enjoying the irony. Ralphie whined/ begged to be capo, and as soon as he is, he's got the decision placed in front of him to put a hit on his nephew or look weak and losing face.
Tony's "You did the best you could, didn't you?" is such a middle finger, like of course Tony knows Ralphie didn't have any positive influence on Jackie Jr. and prob knows he coaxed Jackie into the robbery. If only he wasn't capo, least he wouldn't have the guilt of killing his dead friends only son lol
Of all the people they could’ve got to whack Jackie Jr, why in the hell did they choose Vito? His getaway took more time than the LoTR trillogy.
Tony out-manoeuvring Ralphy at every turn is brilliant. Ralphy is desperately trying to manipulate Tony to give the order so it doesn't come back to him but Tony is having none of it.
Watching this now, it occurs to me that the brief chess game & dialogue shown from 2:54-3:17 is a metaphor for Jackie's entire experience with the mob.
Vito being the hitman is just too good.
“Well, stupidity would be a learning disorder, wouldn’t it?”
Why is it the final lines of these clips are often the best?
Vito sneaking up on somebody in broad daylight is a miracle.
He appeared out of fat air
He’s a parade float, ne was floating in the air