I think what makes Villenuve a master is that he has perfected "show don't tell" . Paul's routine check of his shield tells us soo much in few seconds, how shields work, whats its weakness and why traditional weapons don't work in this universe.
@@icephoenix1932 it stops anything which travels fast, but is useless against slow moving objects. This makes most projectile weapons useless against it. Fighters in Dune have adapted to slow their attacks at the last second so that they can get through the shield
And if a laser hits a shield there is a very, very big boom - so there is a double-edged reason (saw what I did there?) why older weapons are necessary. It is why the Sadaukar could/did use lasers against Fremen (since shields also enrage worms so no one uses them regularly in the desert) but didn't deploy them all the time. @@nickthephoenix8494 ps: Duncan was using his shield underground in the first film, so it was (kind'a sort of) okay to do so...
@@irisce2799 That scene was cut. He was also wearing a backwards baseball cap and sitting backwards on a chair and listening to whatever the latest "'rock 'n roll" music the kids were into those days.
SPOILERS for part 2: I just realised that this scene mirrors the fight with Rautha perfectly. Paul beats Rautha by stabbing him when Rautha thinks he's won! Shows that Paul learns quickly (from Gurney in this case).
its amazing how many callback/vision/preparation scenes like this there are in the first movie when you pay attention on the second movie. Even the very first scene of part one is kind of replicated in part two, with some small changes like the absence of Jamis
MORE SPOILERS: Dune Part 2 is basically Dune Pt 1 in reverse. This scene happens in the beginning of Dune 1, the scene you're talking about happens in the end. Before that we get the attack on the city, which occurs with a similar ambush, the same shots of burning piles of corpses. When the Baron is dying, he's called the other Houses to come to the fight and try to take Atreides and the Fremen with him, like how Duke Leto crushed his tooth to let out poison gas as his last will. The Baron also called Leto his cousin, and Paul calls the Baron his uncle, as well as the Na Baron his Cousin. The middle of both films is the Atreides going through Fremen bases and traveling through the desert, evading Harkonnens, and Dune 1 ends with Paul becoming accepted by the Fremen with Jamis dead, and Dune 2 starts the same, trying to get accepted and parading Jamis' body.
It also shows that Fayd would have died during the arena fight if that Atreidis Warrior was at full strength. He was the head of Leto's security detail after all ..
I just noticed that after Paul picks up the smaller dual swords (idk the proper term ) he immediately started fighting better and similar to the fedaykin. No matter how many times you watch both movies you pick up so many new things. I LOVE IT
Such a cool fighting technique they use in this universe. They have to move quickly to off-balance their opponent, and get them to a point where they can slowly get the blade in close enough to do harm. It’s great.
In the books it is explained that shields aren't used in arrakis since it attracts worms. Also it was a literally way of making paul survive in the desert even more challenging.
Although I agree, head canon (and probably actual canon) makes me believe that the more proficient you are in fighting the more controlled you are able to be with the speed of your strikes. Despite the choreography of the other fights overtaking the story in terms of the Holtzman shields, it is cool to think that the better fighters can be identified through the effect in the movie whenever the shields are used. Just putting my two cents to the discussion, I definitely agree with your point tho lol, it's hard to unsee a super fast strike and it breaking the shield lol.
@@landedpainter2752 don't mean to speak for the OP of the comment but I think they're referring to the fight scenes that include a Holtzman shield rather than referring to all fight scenes, such as this scene, the atreides forces vs the harkonnens and the sardakaur, and duncan vs the sardakaur at the secret lab.
Such a simple scene that provides so much context to the overall story. This is Paul's first fight technically in the series, based on years of training of course, and we see his skill. We see how shields work. We see how Paul is still a young child. Would he have survived if he "wasn't in the mood" with Jamis? Character development 101.
My favorite scene in Dune. When Paul dives over the table and grabs two daggers then reverses his grip to increase the killing power. Vicious. Brilliantly choreographed and executed.
Gurney was so smart about the politics behind it it all that he knew that there was some shady planning going on between the Harkonnen and Emperor against House Atreides. In this scene, Gurney was trying to let Paul know that Harkonnen had control over the spice fields for 80 years then all of a sudden just easily give it up? Gurney said ''NOPE! We must be prepared!'' which is why he said to Paul ''You don't get it do you? You do not understand the grave nature...''
@@dosomestuff1949 I am very well aware of that. For example, Leto has made gestures of skepticism upon the arrival for the formal announcement. I am particularly talking about this scene, so no, not EVERYONE knew about it because Paul was being ignorant to the matter.
As someone who has been studying it for about 6+ years, I honestly adore The usage of it. No twirly outside the box moves, just straight up chess matches of brutality
I’ll be honest, I just kept making Thanos jokes the entire time with my friend who read the books and who saw this movie already. He did not appreciate them…but I did get a chuckle once. I just couldn’t stop hearing Thanos.
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Josh Brolin is wonderful in this (as always) but to me, he is not Gurney. There's a line in the book: "He could be killing you while he was singing and never miss a note." I can't see this Gurney doing that at all.
I love dune but if the shields stop all fast moving objects from passing then why can they breathe when air molecules would be travelling at roughly the speed of sound
I'm not kidding, i am partially convinced that josh brolin used a bit of harsh vocal technique from metalcore in that *"they're bruutaal."* metalcore is the main genre of music i listen to and that was extremely close to a proper technique.
@@Blashmack there's almost likena fearful respect in his tone, like he hates them but can't help but acknowledge how dangerous and capable they really are.
Dude when Josh Brolin is talking about the Harkonnens it's 10/10 acting. So well done.
They’re ¡BRUTAL!
I love how when he says "BRUTAL" there's not just anger, but also a hint of grief, pointing to the fact that Gurney lost everything to the Harkonnens.
It was also perfect that that foreboding sentence and uneasy silence were used as the cue to introduce House Harkonnan in the following scene
If there is one reason to watch this scene it’s to hear them say, “…THEYRE BRUTAL!”
I’ve seen Josh Brolin in other movies. Dune gave me a newfound respect of his acting abilities. He was great.
I think what makes Villenuve a master is that he has perfected "show don't tell" . Paul's routine check of his shield tells us soo much in few seconds, how shields work, whats its weakness and why traditional weapons don't work in this universe.
i don't get it, what are the weaknesses?
@@icephoenix1932The slow blade penetrates the shield.
@@icephoenix1932 it stops anything which travels fast, but is useless against slow moving objects. This makes most projectile weapons useless against it. Fighters in Dune have adapted to slow their attacks at the last second so that they can get through the shield
The slow blade penetrates the shield, for one. @@icephoenix1932
And if a laser hits a shield there is a very, very big boom - so there is a double-edged reason (saw what I did there?) why older weapons are necessary. It is why the Sadaukar could/did use lasers against Fremen (since shields also enrage worms so no one uses them regularly in the desert) but didn't deploy them all the time. @@nickthephoenix8494
ps: Duncan was using his shield underground in the first film, so it was (kind'a sort of) okay to do so...
“I recognize your footsteps, old man”
“You Young Pup”
I thought Gurney said "You're young pops" as in younger version of his father. idk
@@irisce2799same
OP has it correct@@irisce2799
@@irisce2799 That scene was cut.
He was also wearing a backwards baseball cap and sitting backwards on a chair and listening to whatever the latest "'rock 'n roll" music the kids were into those days.
SPOILERS for part 2: I just realised that this scene mirrors the fight with Rautha perfectly. Paul beats Rautha by stabbing him when Rautha thinks he's won! Shows that Paul learns quickly (from Gurney in this case).
its amazing how many callback/vision/preparation scenes like this there are in the first movie when you pay attention on the second movie. Even the very first scene of part one is kind of replicated in part two, with some small changes like the absence of Jamis
I noticed this instantly on the night I watched part 2. that movie was incredible 👏🔥🔥
Noticed it when I watched the movie a 2nd time. Brilliant.
MORE SPOILERS: Dune Part 2 is basically Dune Pt 1 in reverse. This scene happens in the beginning of Dune 1, the scene you're talking about happens in the end. Before that we get the attack on the city, which occurs with a similar ambush, the same shots of burning piles of corpses. When the Baron is dying, he's called the other Houses to come to the fight and try to take Atreides and the Fremen with him, like how Duke Leto crushed his tooth to let out poison gas as his last will. The Baron also called Leto his cousin, and Paul calls the Baron his uncle, as well as the Na Baron his Cousin. The middle of both films is the Atreides going through Fremen bases and traveling through the desert, evading Harkonnens, and Dune 1 ends with Paul becoming accepted by the Fremen with Jamis dead, and Dune 2 starts the same, trying to get accepted and parading Jamis' body.
It also shows that Fayd would have died during the arena fight if that Atreidis Warrior was at full strength. He was the head of Leto's security detail after all ..
i love the detail of the shield turning red when he grabs gurneys hand to help him up.
It’s like when the dying housemaid grabs Leto’s shoulder later in the movie
I just noticed that after Paul picks up the smaller dual swords (idk the proper term ) he immediately started fighting better and similar to the fedaykin. No matter how many times you watch both movies you pick up so many new things. I LOVE IT
0:40-0:43 I love that "show, don't tell" sequence. Denis does such a fantastic job of leaving those hints throughout the movie.
And then at 1:06 it tells anyway
Gurney notice Paul's rhythm is off hence lecture that follows@@enormousearl8838
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Such a cool fighting technique they use in this universe. They have to move quickly to off-balance their opponent, and get them to a point where they can slowly get the blade in close enough to do harm. It’s great.
10/10 depiction of shields. Pity that every other shielded fight scene ignores the rules.
Imagine the cost of training and coreographing every actor that fights in the two movies.
In the books it is explained that shields aren't used in arrakis since it attracts worms. Also it was a literally way of making paul survive in the desert even more challenging.
Although I agree, head canon (and probably actual canon) makes me believe that the more proficient you are in fighting the more controlled you are able to be with the speed of your strikes. Despite the choreography of the other fights overtaking the story in terms of the Holtzman shields, it is cool to think that the better fighters can be identified through the effect in the movie whenever the shields are used. Just putting my two cents to the discussion, I definitely agree with your point tho lol, it's hard to unsee a super fast strike and it breaking the shield lol.
@@landedpainter2752 don't mean to speak for the OP of the comment but I think they're referring to the fight scenes that include a Holtzman shield rather than referring to all fight scenes, such as this scene, the atreides forces vs the harkonnens and the sardakaur, and duncan vs the sardakaur at the secret lab.
From what I remember of the first movie's fights(I just rewatched it a week ago), they don't ignore the rules.
Funny that it was his mother in “part 2” who reminded him not to stand with his back to the open.
I realised as I watched again. Another nice callback that reminds us of just how perfectly these two parts fit.
nice attention
There's a deleted scene from Dune 1 where Jessica is teaching Paul knife fight. Those nuns are something else. 😀
Bene Gesserit fighting skills are no joke.
An assassination attempt in Messiah?
Fun fact: Gurney's teachings save paul once, respectively in both movies, during the movies' "final duel."
Do you mean Duncan's or Gurney's? I mean, lore-wise/book-wise it's both, but we only see Paul training with Gurney in the films.
I love the way Brolin grabs his face!!!!! LOL!
Such a simple scene that provides so much context to the overall story. This is Paul's first fight technically in the series, based on years of training of course, and we see his skill. We see how shields work. We see how Paul is still a young child. Would he have survived if he "wasn't in the mood" with Jamis? Character development 101.
Anyone see this fight referenced in Dune part two when Paul kills Feyd-Fautha
first thing I thought of... Feyd-Rautha made the same mistake Paul learned from in this scene
Yes! That’s why I came to this video. To see it if happened the way that I remembered.
@@jamcowl Of not watching where the opponents blade is?
Great spoiler
@@jamcowl Furthermore, Paul realizes that if he can control Feyd’s blade, then he can strike a fatal blow without joining him in death.
My favorite scene in Dune. When Paul dives over the table and grabs two daggers then reverses his grip to increase the killing power. Vicious. Brilliantly choreographed and executed.
Gurney was so smart about the politics behind it it all that he knew that there was some shady planning going on between the Harkonnen and Emperor against House Atreides. In this scene, Gurney was trying to let Paul know that Harkonnen had control over the spice fields for 80 years then all of a sudden just easily give it up? Gurney said ''NOPE! We must be prepared!'' which is why he said to Paul ''You don't get it do you? You do not understand the grave nature...''
Bro everyone in house atreides knew that including the duke.
@@dosomestuff1949 I am very well aware of that. For example, Leto has made gestures of skepticism upon the arrival for the formal announcement. I am particularly talking about this scene, so no, not EVERYONE knew about it because Paul was being ignorant to the matter.
@@mrandybear27 yep, i still dont get why they went anyways
@@dosomestuff1949 no choice, to not go would be rebellion against the Emperor
@@pranava7008 but the house corrino guy says "DO U ACCEPT?" I thought that was choice
Thanos and Willie Wonka don't seem very happy today...
Anyone notice how Paul says he could tell it was gurney by his footsteps, and he says the same in Part 2 😮
Wow thats cool didnt notice that :^o
Thats not supposed to be surprising lol
no spoilers please for the rest
He says the same thing when he's experiencing his first vision during the spice crawler evacuation.
@@henrycase3788 as the double meaning in that scene, the footsteps of the "old man" could also apply to the grandfather sandworm in the sequence too.
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Josh Brolin was the perfect actor for this movie
Gurney was always my favorite character from the novel and movies.
I just love this scene....
Interesting that they use Filipino Kali/Eskrima fighting style for this.
Yaaaaas! I saw that toooo
As someone who has been studying it for about 6+ years, I honestly adore The usage of it.
No twirly outside the box moves, just straight up chess matches of brutality
What a masterpiece. That Paul defeats feyd Rautha with almost this exact principle. Paul truly is the most amazing character.
The book Dune 1965 by Frank Herbert and then Star wars 1977 movie and Dune 1984 movie
Non-stop, I guess. (First to comment)
Interestingly enough this is how Paul defeats Feyd. Sacrifices a wound for a lethal strike unnoticed.
1:47
Paul had pulled off this trick vs Feyd-Rautha.
Yep, but he also directed Feyd's blade towards his shoulder instead of the neck
(Remix)
“Tells you by your footsteps gurney halleck” 0:09
“Old Man” 0:53
“I hate You” aka “I have you” 1:43
“Brutal!” 2:30
“…Their BRUTAL!!!”
2:30 BBBRRRRRRRRRRRUTAL!
And that's the move that killed Elvis
I thought it was a sandwich..😂
Its a shame shields werent used as much in Dune Part 2, understandable though as its established shields attract Sandworms on Arrakis
I’ll be honest, I just kept making Thanos jokes the entire time with my friend who read the books and who saw this movie already. He did not appreciate them…but I did get a chuckle once. I just couldn’t stop hearing Thanos.
Is it in the book that he repeated that he recognized Gurney in Dune 2 by his footsteps?
Just realized he was talking about feyd
And then this would be Paul's signature move
What sound does the cow make?
1:17
I like how he used brolins move to defeat elvis
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"Bruuutal!"
The movement he did at the final of the combat is the same way he takes out Feyd Rautha ?
Training with Thanos 🥶
Josh Brolin is wonderful in this (as always) but to me, he is not Gurney. There's a line in the book:
"He could be killing you while he was singing and never miss a note."
I can't see this Gurney doing that at all.
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The kind of bot that reminds me that The Marvels had a budget of 200 M@@DailyShit.
They already surpassed $200 million globally in just the first week.
I love dune but if the shields stop all fast moving objects from passing then why can they breathe when air molecules would be travelling at roughly the speed of sound
They use knifes and swords because of how slow it is
Gurney’s teaching had to be the reason Paul beat Reyth
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And spice it up with pure imagination
I'm not kidding, i am partially convinced that josh brolin used a bit of harsh vocal technique from metalcore in that *"they're bruutaal."* metalcore is the main genre of music i listen to and that was extremely close to a proper technique.
I've watched that part literally dozens of times. There's just something very primal in the way he says it, that guttural tone is like a beast.
@@Blashmack there's almost likena fearful respect in his tone, like he hates them but can't help but acknowledge how dangerous and capable they really are.
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I don't know about you guys but I think Dune part 1 is better than part 2...
Stands to reason that someone brandishing a blue line flag would have terrible taste.
overall i agree, 1 beats 2. but that final fight scene in 2 had me sweating. the last quarter was just hard as f*ck❤
@@matthewcordero1231 thanks 😅
Got in space
He’s scrawny but fast. 😏
Is this the one where Luke goes to the chocolate factory?
😂😂 i wouldve just kissed him.😂😂😘
Which one?
Wouldn't a chainmail suit underneath the shield make you more or less invunerable?
Since a lot of soldiers are shown wearing full plate armor under their shields, probably not.
Its also explained that soldiers need to be mobile and wearing armour in harsh environments that would slow them down would be deadly to them.
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Human bulldog.
Phantom Zone shields were better.
Think i prefer Patrick Stewart's version, i can imagine he was channeling his dad who was a RSM i believe
Patrick Stewart’s Gurney was better than Josh Brolin’s but Timothée Chalamet’s Paul was better than Kyle MacLachlan’s.