Dave Bautista played Rabban perfectly. Definitely the "muscle-minded tank brain" his uncle declared he was. Rabban has no sense of tactics, let alone strategy.
I wonder wether the Fremen (except for one overzealous fighter) intentionally let him get away because he was such a bad commander. They picked off seemingly every vehicle except his one, despite it being easily recognizeable.
A fun thing I thought about with their harvesters, it rolls on treds but has legs that seem to be useless. Why give a tank the ability to walk? Walk....without rhythm...the worm in the first movie devoured the harveser whole, that machine had only treds. The worm may always come but those false legs probably cause small secondary vibration waves that confuse the worms. They will come, but much much later.
1:37 - The glance of the gunner says "come on man, you´re taking too much time, we are going to die if you take that long". Truly speaks volumes of the Harkonnen ruling.
It’s little details like these that make Dune 2 great. I also like how the Harkonnen tracker frantically looks around for the fremen before he gets his neck snapped
You can see that nearly dying there broke him. More than subsequent events, being outdone by a bunch of "rats", nearly dying to a woman and only surviving with help from another. Rabban was a bully up against someone not afraid of him/his uncle, and Bautista played him perfectly.
It was a nice touch that Rabban's 'weapon' of choice was a whip. A whip is a tool of cruelty, not something you'd ever take into battle. It's meant for when the person you're using it on doesn't have anything to fight back with. It's a wonderful visual representation of how Rabban folds the moment anyone actually stands up to him
And what about the final fight scene with Gurney? Two EVENLY matched killing machines doing battle with each other!!! Who knows how many Fremen Rabban tore apart with his bare hands!? It all came down to that fight!
I always loved when Paul walks out of the dust, an explosion lights his face for a split second. I know it’s a little overplayed but worked perfectly here to depict his almost mystical presence
I almost thought that imagery of Paul wasn't real?? Like it's just an illusion in Rabbans head and it's just a symbol of Muaddib as the religious leader of Fremen. He's not even in a stillsuit and they purposefully made his entrance overly dramatic lol
@@yujx0401 to me it shows very good acting, writing, and directing. They did contradicting or paradoxical things. They made Paul look like a force of nature, they made him look like a messianic figure, they made him look relatable with a nice side. You got to give credit Kyle MacLachlan here. This certainly something I would expect only from an older and much more experienced actor.
Also I think it disturbed him that was a woman. It's not mentioned much in the movies but the fact that Fremen women were just as deadly and fanatical as the men (meaning they have twice the amount of soldiers available) seriously bothered the Harkonnen and Sardaukar. For a brutal warlord like Rabban to nearly be killed by a woman really took his ego down a notch. In the book when Sietch Tabr is destroyed they mention that even old women and children were capable of killing at least one or two soldiers, even Sardaukar sometimes.
1:39 This guy is definitely my favourite Harkonnen. Great design, cool, calm demeanour, (up until losing the Fremmen on the computer, that is) and just a good general presence. Too bad he got Rabban’d lol. This movie is amazing!
Pilot 2: I lost them Pilot 1: *Farewell, My Friend* If you work for Harkonnen.. don't recommend anything to them.. Don't talk back to them.. and don't make a mistake.. for your own neck🤗🥰
It makes absolutely no sense, nobody would have any loyalty to this house and the pay isn't worth it to be used as cannon fodder or killed for amusement, the harkonnens are supposed to be the largest and richest house, neither of those things can be true if they arbitrarily take out their own people, that's just not a functional system, you can't immediately execute anyone who points out critical information without your system eventually exploding from unreported issues.
@@ebannaw only if you are truly ignorant of what great cinema really is these films are for people that have been brought up on Marvel super hero films
If only he had the Sardaukar with him. Two evenly matched killing machines doing battle with each other. They would have been able to help out Rabban immensely.
I love, how the Atreides ornithtopter resembled more elegant dragon flies, whereas the Harkonnen ornithopters sound look more like overgrown bumblebees.
If you look closely on the edges of the video, you can see that this is a screen capture of the pirated “1080p version” of the movie that came out on sites. You can make out OPs battery, the time and his phone connection meter so the compression is double fucked.
0:09 I noticed the alarms are different from the ones that sounded when the Harkonnens invaded. They went so far as to change the alarms when they took back over.
And this is why Fremen are so terrifying. Toughened by condition worst than any planet, and they're all VERY unafraid to die. That last scene showed it perfectly: that one female Fremen jumped into the Ornithopter with no plan of returning back alive. She just wants to kill one more Harkonnen in Muadib's name. Religious zeal, that's one factor. Second factor, they have learned to think VERY long term. They want to turn Arrakis to a green world... it'll take thousands and thousands of years, but they don't care. They've all become used to the idea that they will not live to see the fruits of their labor, but as long as they put in one little effort today, the know that future generation will reap the benefit. In her mindset, the mindset of a Fedaykin, one less harkonnen die today means one less Harkonnen that will hurt her comrades in the future. If she dies, she dies - besides, by time or by blade, she will die eventually. But she will die content knowing others will fight on in her stead in the future because of what she did today. That sense of warrior's community. That's how terrifying Fremen is, and that was just the woman, and that was just ONE fremen. Imagine a million, tens of millions of them fighting with that kind of mindset.
It was the Fremen who took off in that captured ’thopter, Hawat thought. He deliberately sacrificed himself to get that carrier. Great Mother! What are these Fremen? ”A reasonable exchange,” said the Fremen beside Hawat. “There must’ve been three hundred men in that carrier. That should pretty much sum up the length of the Fremen's resolve.
Im a bit conflicted on the notion that they’re trying to turn Arrakis into a green “paradise.” Their planet might be unrelentingly harsh, but it’s at the core of who they are. Its made them as strong as they are. Just seems like they’re sacrificing a big part of their identity, which is struggle, toughness, survival and resourcefulness.
Best movie I've seen in years! I contacted David Peterson, who created many of the languages for these movies (e.g., Chakobsa), as well as the languages in Game of Thrones and others. He mentioned that there was a mistake in the film at 1:41 when they said "Delta." His response is below: "there are no real world writing systems used in the film at any point, an artistic decision I really love. The only flub I've found so far is in the second movie when they're in the ornithopter and say "delta, delta, delta" when giving instructions. That's a letter of the Greek alphabet and so shouldn't have been referred to. I saw the script, though. I should've said something! I must've missed it since I was focused on the stuff we had to translate and the plot. >.< Oh well."
Such is the power of religion, faith. The Fedeykin wasn’t going to kill Rabban for Arrakis, or freedom, or the Fremen, or even for Shai-Hulud. For Maud’Dib.
@@dr.albekhan8640 In the book is stated that the Harkonnen soldier where quite... shitty XDD They where picked from the slums and highlly poluted streets of Harkonnen heavilly industrialized worlds. Joining the military was an scape from an oppresive hellish life. They are not even named 'soldiers'; but 'mercenaries'; as they openlly figth for their masters just for the coin, not for loyallty. Of course, they receive millitary training, and I asume the Harkonnen drill seargeants won't go easy on them... but there is some mentions in the books of Harkonnen officers indulging into drug abuse, corruption and other activitties that would heavilly compromise their possition... so unsufficient training or sending unfit soldiers to the front is not out of the realms of possibillity. One of the reason duke Leto was so feared and led to his assassination, was because he had managed to build an extremelly loyal and battle efficient army; in comparison, Harkonnen (having mutch moore resources and numbers) where an undisciplinated horde of bullies and psycopaths; fit to inspire fear in civillian poppulation... but uneficcient in a real battle against propper soldiers. ...so, I would not discard that in this point of the war; having lost lots of men and needing to replace them with haste and cheap; this soldiers are green as grass recruits with very little airborne training
Gotta say these 2 Dune movies did Lasguns justice. I read all 6 of Frank's books as senior in HS........about 10 years after SW and because of that movie and BSG and other knockoffs I had assumed the Lasguns worked the same......Pew Pew......and had trouble imagining what Herbert was describing in the books. Denis really kept the effects of small/big lasguns to minimum and after being life long book fan.....really liked how lasers are repped. Also for the more casual fans.....neither Harkonnen nor Sardukar use shields in the desert because the Holtzman Effect attract worms. Also we die hards know what happens when shields and lasers interact.
@@biassicalabria3055there were no Lisan al Ghaib to unite them. Also, the Fremen fighting cultures make them fight each other as much as they fight Harkonnens
They didn't rule the entire arrakis, they only captured a portion of the planet, they didn't push through because of sandstorms and worms constantly lurking around. They only estimated the fremen to be like less than a thousand
@@luker2693 Also carries more troops like a Chinook. Its like a frontline command post that can lead an asssault and carry the commanders personal guard.
It was interesting to see that, with the more familiar dragonfly-looking ornithopters, there was at least one that had a more beetle-like truncated aspect to it. My image of these aerial vehicles was with more bird-like wings, so it was something to see them looking more like insects... and, to be honest, their similarity to helicopters adds a further sense that they could be real, actual flying machines.
Several continuity errors in the film, notably the blood on Paul's face during his confrontation with the Emperor and Paul beginning to remove the knife from his shoulder starting with his right hand and finishing the movement with his left while holding _his_ knife in his right. Additionally, there are several scenes where it's clear re-dubbing of dialogue occurred. Nevertheless, I really enjoyed it as cinematic spectacle.
@@agesflow6815 also feyd rautha in this last scene sometimes had bloody nose and sometimes didn't. I was baked and tripping balls in the cinema but still noticed that one.
@@Puccini000 Good catch. I've seen it in IMAX, seen it while baked, but not while tripn. One day, maybe. Now _Dune '84?_ Yeah, several times. 😎 Have a great day, Puccini000. 👍
It's May the 3rd, 2024 and I paid $22.57 to watch Dune 2 in an IMAX theatre. Was it worth it? Nah not really but at $22.57, like you I could have just bought the digital rights to this movie and watch it over and over..
Compare the last scene to Paul's escape from the sandworm. Paul had his trusted teacher, guard and friend tightly holding his hand. Rabban had to crawl back inside alone, had he slipped, tough luck.
I like how it was a random harkonenn soldier that saves him, most movies wouldn't do that all the sode characters would be dead and the main ones do everything. I know its very nitpicky but i live little details lime that
@@ryannn97227 The Harkonnen were simply a prop to tell the story. They are evil at the time of the book but the Atriedes weren't nice either. In fact all the Houses and government in the imperium are fascist. Read the books and you will find out just how messed up the Fremen and Atriedes family are in the later books.
I know it wouldn't happen, but I wanted the Harkonnen to win one or two battles at least. There's no tension when the antagonists are shown to be repeatedly incompetent and ineffective.
actually from what i understand this was intentional with the Baron actually sabotaging his nephew so his other nephew can grow in influence and take over. Granted i would love to see Rabban win one battle even with all the sabotage from his own family.
It's being accurate to the books largely. Harkonnens were always largely incompetent when it came to actively engaging the Fremen. It was hard enough for them on Arrakis before Paul Atreides was there to lead them.
@@_ArsNova Sure, I'm not disputing that, it is accurate to the book. If anything the movie buffed them by giving them a 'win' by attacking an unattended mountain. I just think it's a bit tensionless. However, that is the point of the theme of the book, that this serves the narrative of religious fanaticism etc.
Rabban explodes the shit out of the mountain the fremen are hiding in: "Oh my god Rabban you're such an idiot" Feyd Rautha explodes the shit out of the mountain the fremen are hiding in: "Genius. You're literally melting rock on top of them." We know which one is the favourite family member.
This is not a Dune problem per say, but in the year 2024 I would really hope that at least one movie shows armour acting like armour. In every movie I’ve seen blades penetrate armour like it’s paper OR the fighters are so skilled that they make perfect strikes for the uncovered areas without even accidentally striking the armour at some point. I just want a movie where armour gets slashed and actually protects the wearer smh
The Punisher is the only show I can think of which does this. I don't know if its entierly consistent, but there are a few scenes in it where armor stopps bullets and non-vital attacks have to be taken to harm an opponent.
@iamsethhasting8911 outlaw King does it as well in the fight between Bruce and Edwards II. Sadly thst fight never happened in reality but it was a cool movie scene.
Yeah, his death was a scene where the viewer can truly feel that some things just had to be rushed. He was dealt with too quickly. Maybe the intention, other than saving time, was to show just how good Gurney is, but Rabban definitely came out as weak and incompetent in the movie, getting his ass handed over to him pretty much in everything he did.
@@becausebuzzbomb6133 Rabban is weak and incompetent on the greater scale of things in the first place. The average Atreides soldier would rekt him, even.
The start of this scene is so impactful, in my opinion, because they set each scene at Arrakeen up by showing an aerial view. You go into the scene expecting to be taken into Arrakeen, or in this case the Spice Depot, and then your expectation is interrupted by the explosion of the Spice Depot.
Dave Bautista is so good in this and after reading that his agent told him to refuse to play Rabban cause he kisses the foot of the other antagonist and he did it anyway makes me have so much more respect for the guy.
@@markh9755As a person who’s read the books I feel it’s more then just helping the Fremen claim arrakis. It’s about Paul struggling with his destiny. He can see everything yet can only see one path out of his circumstances. The other books explore this concept more then the first book did though.
It's amazing that there are so many Harkonnen. It seems like their soldiers would just go join some other house, unless their way worse. Not sure I haven't read the books
The common people couldn't travel to other planets. The Guild controlled all intergalactic travel as they owned highliner ships and had the guild navigator pilots. Otherwise you were stuck on your planet.
The Harkonnens command fanatical loyalty through fear and cruelty. Think North Korea. That and, as another has said already, space travel is severely limited. Only the Spacing Guild can fly through the universe (it's the whole reason Spice is so important, since they need it to find safe paths), and Guild price rates are extortionate. Some do manage to leave though. In fact, though he was a slave rather than a soldier, Gurney Halleck was born on Geidi Prime (the Harkonnen homeworld). He went on to become one of the finest Atreides warriors, one of the finest in the entire Imperium.
You cant really join another house as a normal person. It's like feudalism in space, your born into a house and unless you manage to become fabulously wealthy somehow or the best at somthing you aren't going anywhere
Dave Bautista is such a good actor, I'm glad to be seeing him in movies more and more. He is much better than people that have commonly taken similar roles
I will forever love and appreciate how Denis Villeneuve used the action to help tell the story. I hadn't read the books before watching these movies, and I never understood why House Atreides considered the Fremen to be such an asset. Sure, Duncan said that "they fight like demons" but they still couldn't match up to the Sardaukar and struggled against House Harkonnen. But we got to see their full power on display in Part 2. With adequate time to plan, they're the perfect guerilla assassin fighting force. There's a full planet of them, and their leader can see the future and knows his enemies like the back of his hand. To anyone who hasn't read the book, it suddenly becomes clear how they were able to take over the known Universe in a matter of years.
I got a kick out of the Rabban character in this movie. He's sort of this hapless dude, like the failson nephew whose alderman uncle got him a job on the police force. He took it thinking it was going to be a no-work desk gig only to find himself on patrol in the worst ghetto precinct in the city!🤣
@@michaelgreenwood3413 Prigozhin wasn't a typical Russian officer. In fact he wasn't an officer or soldier at all and technically had no official position. He was basically a mafia boss put in charge of a mercenary army which officially didn't exist.
I love how in the beginning of the film the Harkonnen are highly confident in their hunt for the Fremen "rats." At this point in the film, they are terrified as they head into what they perceive will be a slaughter. You can also clearly see the utter dread in Rabban's face as he is desperate for any type of victory over the Fremen to appease his uncle who has so clearly showed his displeasure for his management of spice production.
The Fremen fighter who went after Rabban had sealed her fate, no escape, nothing except for the chance to kill for Muad'Dib. Imagine then millions of Fremen with the same fanaticism. Villeneuve is so unbelievably great at telling so much with so little.
3:54 I don’t get why more people aren’t talking about this. The sheer terror and awe it commands is fucking amazing. Easily one of my favorite shots of the movie, even if you’re barely looking at anything.
I love how coordinated it was, the Fremen lured them in toward the rock formation just as the sun was going to break the top of it. Even probably knowing that Rabban would blast it and create all that sand cover
It’s an adaptation of the book so there will always be differences but Rabban is known as “Beast Rabban” in the book. He’s probably portrayed as too much of a blunt instrument in the film but it fits together well. Makes a very good contrast with Gurney when the Fremen attack his smuggler crew: “Don’t run!! Fight!!”
Dave Bautista played Rabban perfectly. Definitely the "muscle-minded tank brain" his uncle declared he was. Rabban has no sense of tactics, let alone strategy.
I wonder wether the Fremen (except for one overzealous fighter) intentionally let him get away because he was such a bad commander. They picked off seemingly every vehicle except his one, despite it being easily recognizeable.
They did fire on Rabbans ornithopter but it banked left to evade the strike. You can see the missle exhaust at that moment.
@@myeongdong Too sad, it would have been such a nice head canon.
@@Nickname-ef9tv Rabban had plot armor...until he didn't
He whip. He hack.
I love the design of the Harkonnen vehicles. Their ornithopters look like flies and their spice harvesters like ticks.
even the suites the ordinary troops wear make them look like insects
A fun thing I thought about with their harvesters, it rolls on treds but has legs that seem to be useless. Why give a tank the ability to walk? Walk....without rhythm...the worm in the first movie devoured the harveser whole, that machine had only treds. The worm may always come but those false legs probably cause small secondary vibration waves that confuse the worms. They will come, but much much later.
They were mine finders no?
@lapineee KLEM KLEM
@@moonlight39echo the legs of the harvesters looks like VACUUMS if you watch the "feet" is like they squize all the spice with the machine
1:37 - The glance of the gunner says "come on man, you´re taking too much time, we are going to die if you take that long". Truly speaks volumes of the Harkonnen ruling.
It’s little details like these that make Dune 2 great. I also like how the Harkonnen tracker frantically looks around for the fremen before he gets his neck snapped
I'm pretty sure it was because crazy Raban was right behind them as well.
If that's true, 2:05 this was definitely:
"Ah fuck. You did not just say that. Goodbye."
You can see that nearly dying there broke him. More than subsequent events, being outdone by a bunch of "rats", nearly dying to a woman and only surviving with help from another. Rabban was a bully up against someone not afraid of him/his uncle, and Bautista played him perfectly.
Whamens!
pure action batista in this scene
It was a nice touch that Rabban's 'weapon' of choice was a whip. A whip is a tool of cruelty, not something you'd ever take into battle. It's meant for when the person you're using it on doesn't have anything to fight back with. It's a wonderful visual representation of how Rabban folds the moment anyone actually stands up to him
Why did he snap dudes neck though?
That was so fuken random
And what about the final fight scene with Gurney? Two EVENLY matched killing machines doing battle with each other!!! Who knows how many Fremen Rabban tore apart with his bare hands!? It all came down to that fight!
I always loved when Paul walks out of the dust, an explosion lights his face for a split second. I know it’s a little overplayed but worked perfectly here to depict his almost mystical presence
I almost thought that imagery of Paul wasn't real?? Like it's just an illusion in Rabbans head and it's just a symbol of Muaddib as the religious leader of Fremen. He's not even in a stillsuit and they purposefully made his entrance overly dramatic lol
@@yujx0401
to me it shows very good acting, writing, and directing. They did contradicting or paradoxical things. They made Paul look like a force of nature, they made him look like a messianic figure, they made him look relatable with a nice side. You got to give credit Kyle MacLachlan here. This certainly something I would expect only from an older and much more experienced actor.
I know; this little twink sigma-striding out of the mist like he’s Darth freaking Vader! I love it!
@@dlausactor6373never though I'd see the words twink and sigma describing a Dune character
When you can see much of the future your timing can be perfect...
That Fremen at the end made Rabban realize he’s no longer fighting random groups of survivors, but a unified force of religious zealots.
When it's time to cut, cut, don't talk.
Also I think it disturbed him that was a woman. It's not mentioned much in the movies but the fact that Fremen women were just as deadly and fanatical as the men (meaning they have twice the amount of soldiers available) seriously bothered the Harkonnen and Sardaukar. For a brutal warlord like Rabban to nearly be killed by a woman really took his ego down a notch. In the book when Sietch Tabr is destroyed they mention that even old women and children were capable of killing at least one or two soldiers, even Sardaukar sometimes.
@@canisdirus6045 When you live in the environment the Fremen lived in, you didn't get to be soft. Everyone earned their own way.
RATS! BIG, HAIRY RATS!
when you guys say such cute things. ... ...... it's adorable. when commenting on morons fighting non morons.... thanks for your "science".
1:39 This guy is definitely my favourite Harkonnen. Great design, cool, calm demeanour, (up until losing the Fremmen on the computer, that is) and just a good general presence. Too bad he got Rabban’d lol. This movie is amazing!
When he says “I lost them” his buddy looks over at him for a split second 2:04 like “You shouldn’t have said that”
Yeah lol. That dude knew what was going to happen
Delta Delta Delta
They look very similar to max tec from cyberpunk 2077
@@Argiuri lost him
Pilot 2: I lost them
Pilot 1: *Farewell, My Friend*
If you work for Harkonnen.. don't recommend anything to them.. Don't talk back to them.. and don't make a mistake.. for your own neck🤗🥰
Basicly...don´t do your job^^
They are “brruuuuuuutalll”
Even then you still risk getting killed for no reason
It makes absolutely no sense, nobody would have any loyalty to this house and the pay isn't worth it to be used as cannon fodder or killed for amusement, the harkonnens are supposed to be the largest and richest house, neither of those things can be true if they arbitrarily take out their own people, that's just not a functional system, you can't immediately execute anyone who points out critical information without your system eventually exploding from unreported issues.
it wasn't even a mistake... he couldn't have done anything to prevent that
One of the only sci-fi movies where it feels like they're actually fighting a war.
It feels like a cheesy, fanfic melodrama written by people who only looked at the book cover art.
Ragebait seethe
@@asnark7115 These two movies are undeniably the best epics of the modern era.
he was dumbed down into a clown and a simple trope
@@ebannaw only if you are truly ignorant of what great cinema really is
these films are for people that have been brought up on Marvel super hero films
To his credit.....Rabban did find the Fremen he was chasing after. Underestimated them grossly, but found them nonetheless.
more like they found him
Pretty easy to find the guys that have led you into a trap.
You are giving credit to someone who was fooled into a trap...
If only he had the Sardaukar with him. Two evenly matched killing machines doing battle with each other. They would have been able to help out Rabban immensely.
Sound design and visuals, perfect balance between fantasy and realistic, truly a sci fi scene. You can tell he's desperate and afraid.
I love, how the Atreides ornithtopter resembled more elegant dragon flies, whereas the Harkonnen ornithopters sound look more like overgrown bumblebees.
the pilots’ helmets look cool af
Yeah man I couldn't help but notice that.
Like Max Tec from Cyberpunk
@@Shake_Well_Before_Usethey look like they’re based on mosquito eyes
1:58 Small touches like the glass changing transparency makes this so memorable.
We actually have glass that can basically do that IRL. For a long time now.
@@EGRJ all the more reason to show it in Dune
@@EGRJ Is it similar to those glass walled toilets in japan:?
@bladedrain9389 Kinda, but more similar to that in a welder mask.
The tracking shot at 4:08 is an awesome reverse-parallel with Gurney’s charge during the Battle of Arrakeen in the last movie.
Ooo I hadn’t noticed that, nice catch
Rabban channeling his inner Khornate Berserker
“We need a new driver! THIS ONE IS DEAD!”
Rabban is basically what would happen if the emporer left angron to fight an insurgency with a backwater guard garrison.
Tbf Warhammer 40k did "borrow" a lot of it's material from Dune, so it's pretty fitting you made that comment.
@@AFanOfCinema The more I get into tabletop the more i see just how "inspired" the writers of these games were.
@@chuckbuck5002 They do at least pick good sources to be "inspired by,"
@@AFanOfCinema True
0:02 Stilgar and its bird sounds.
EDIT: 1_Yes it was Stilgar, the subtitles say it
2_ There are birds in The planet,You can see them in this movie
Why tf does he make bird sounds!? There aren't any birds!
@@Automatomatic There are birds on the planet, when the Harkonnen use the flamethrowers in the temple you see many burned nests and birds dying
@@Automatomatic
It was a signal to blow up the building.
how to say lisan al ghaib in birds language?
@@warmbreeze7996 peep-peep poop peep-ree
I love how Rabban runs for his life
"When a beast is caught in a trap and cornered it will gnaw off its own leg to escape". Pretty sure Rabban would have failed the gom jabbar test😂
Run forest, run 😆
Good to see that millenia later there are still ppl practicing the joestar family technique
He was a coward this whole time? he just saw the fremen and retreated!
@@CashMoolah00I was surprised too! Not sure if that’s true to the book, bad character development or great character development
I love how his plan was to take off all his ships to the desert and hope for the best, then attack blindly hahaha
He is angry fool, strategy is not really his thing.
Yes, that was really stupid step. At least he should have waited until the smoke disappears
And in the 2nd film feud is made out to be some tactical genius for using his ships properly. And bombing from above 😂
That whirring sound at 2:28 is nuts
The sound design in this movie is amazing.
TH-cam compression was not kind to this scene lol
Not at all
If you look closely on the edges of the video, you can see that this is a screen capture of the pirated “1080p version” of the movie that came out on sites. You can make out OPs battery, the time and his phone connection meter so the compression is double fucked.
@@divyakothariofficial Because it's at night in a sandstorm. It's supposed to be chaotic and unclear and messy.
Except for the Fremen.
Anyone else get Ghost in the Shell vibes from the Headset the gunner was wearing? The one Rabban neck snapped.
You're not alone. The helmets in GITS are god tier
0:09 I noticed the alarms are different from the ones that sounded when the Harkonnens invaded. They went so far as to change the alarms when they took back over.
And this is why Fremen are so terrifying. Toughened by condition worst than any planet, and they're all VERY unafraid to die.
That last scene showed it perfectly: that one female Fremen jumped into the Ornithopter with no plan of returning back alive. She just wants to kill one more Harkonnen in Muadib's name. Religious zeal, that's one factor.
Second factor, they have learned to think VERY long term. They want to turn Arrakis to a green world... it'll take thousands and thousands of years, but they don't care. They've all become used to the idea that they will not live to see the fruits of their labor, but as long as they put in one little effort today, the know that future generation will reap the benefit.
In her mindset, the mindset of a Fedaykin, one less harkonnen die today means one less Harkonnen that will hurt her comrades in the future. If she dies, she dies - besides, by time or by blade, she will die eventually. But she will die content knowing others will fight on in her stead in the future because of what she did today. That sense of warrior's community.
That's how terrifying Fremen is, and that was just the woman, and that was just ONE fremen. Imagine a million, tens of millions of them fighting with that kind of mindset.
Love this
They're basically ants. Highly trained, human sized, well-armed ants.
@@Automatomatic*rats😂
It was the Fremen who took off in that captured ’thopter, Hawat thought. He deliberately sacrificed himself to get that carrier. Great Mother! What are these Fremen?
”A reasonable exchange,” said the Fremen beside Hawat. “There must’ve been three hundred men in that carrier.
That should pretty much sum up the length of the Fremen's resolve.
Im a bit conflicted on the notion that they’re trying to turn Arrakis into a green “paradise.” Their planet might be unrelentingly harsh, but it’s at the core of who they are. Its made them as strong as they are. Just seems like they’re sacrificing a big part of their identity, which is struggle, toughness, survival and resourcefulness.
At 3:27-3:32 it sounds like the Harkonnen soldiers are saying ‘Guns off (Don’t shoot)! We’re Harkonnen!’ in their language.
i love the small detail of the shockwave right after the explosion
I'll never be nostalgic for this era of TH-cam and its dogshit compression in low light scenes.
🤡🤡🤡
So bad
yup...even on 1080p its atrocious.
Careful what you wish for, they might do something worse eventually that will make this look good in comparison.
@@Nickname-ef9tv 1999 Tube
He called for him, then when he showed, he was completely unmanned. LOVE IT!
"I love the smell of spice in the morning" - Beast Rabban
Best movie I've seen in years! I contacted David Peterson, who created many of the languages for these movies (e.g., Chakobsa), as well as the languages in Game of Thrones and others. He mentioned that there was a mistake in the film at 1:41 when they said "Delta." His response is below:
"there are no real world writing systems used in the film at any point, an artistic decision I really love. The only flub I've found so far is in the second movie when they're in the ornithopter and say "delta, delta, delta" when giving instructions. That's a letter of the Greek alphabet and so shouldn't have been referred to. I saw the script, though. I should've said something! I must've missed it since I was focused on the stuff we had to translate and the plot. >.< Oh well."
I think I remember that in the book it went something like that ->
"Rabban returned to the Harkonnen's base, his underwear full of spice!"
I love how we finally got a masterpiece science fiction film not seen in decades. While star wars is completley ruined we got this. True sci fi
I'd say Star Wars is closer to fantasy than sci fi, but you make a good point.
3:27 sounds just like Half Life 2 Combine
combine sniper in the rail road
YEAH I THOUGHT THE SAME AT THE THEATRE, nice somebody else saw it!
I crawled throught the comments just to see if someone else thought the same!
That stock sound effects was also present in the original Half Life btw
Я тоже как и все знакомые заметили.
As a fan of both I love it
Such is the power of religion, faith. The Fedeykin wasn’t going to kill Rabban for Arrakis, or freedom, or the Fremen, or even for Shai-Hulud.
For Maud’Dib.
Christianity wasn't invented until after the death of Christ. Same thing.
@@Automatomaticwrong
@@Automatomatic 0
Allah is God
@@harleyb7880Too bad he never told me that ;)
@@Memevze
Well now you know 😉
0:25 MY LORD RABBAN 😫
Cool thing 0:10 it shows how close to the city this silo is and how close the Fremen are.
I thought the soldier vomiting was a great way to convey the fear Paul and the fremen had put into the Harkonnen
Nah, it's just air sickness
@@auroratheicewingrainwinghy1665I don't think a trained Harkonnen soldier would get air sickness. He will get 'Rabbaned' before that 😂
No he just ate too much eggs for breakfast
@@dr.albekhan8640 In the book is stated that the Harkonnen soldier where quite... shitty XDD They where picked from the slums and highlly poluted streets of Harkonnen heavilly industrialized worlds. Joining the military was an scape from an oppresive hellish life. They are not even named 'soldiers'; but 'mercenaries'; as they openlly figth for their masters just for the coin, not for loyallty.
Of course, they receive millitary training, and I asume the Harkonnen drill seargeants won't go easy on them... but there is some mentions in the books of Harkonnen officers indulging into drug abuse, corruption and other activitties that would heavilly compromise their possition... so unsufficient training or sending unfit soldiers to the front is not out of the realms of possibillity.
One of the reason duke Leto was so feared and led to his assassination, was because he had managed to build an extremelly loyal and battle efficient army; in comparison, Harkonnen (having mutch moore resources and numbers) where an undisciplinated horde of bullies and psycopaths; fit to inspire fear in civillian poppulation... but uneficcient in a real battle against propper soldiers.
...so, I would not discard that in this point of the war; having lost lots of men and needing to replace them with haste and cheap; this soldiers are green as grass recruits with very little airborne training
I think it was also meant to show how the Harkonnen troops were being pushed beyond their limits by Rabban’s fanatical pursuit of the Fremen.
1:27 has my vote
yes my lord
2:09 Bowling Alley Screens been like.
The scene of the thopter landing 2:30 is just perfect
Love every detail, like lasgun fully recharged sound at 3:31 & 5:00
Gotta say these 2 Dune movies did Lasguns justice. I read all 6 of Frank's books as senior in HS........about 10 years after SW and because of that movie and BSG and other knockoffs I had assumed the Lasguns worked the same......Pew Pew......and had trouble imagining what Herbert was describing in the books. Denis really kept the effects of small/big lasguns to minimum and after being life long book fan.....really liked how lasers are repped.
Also for the more casual fans.....neither Harkonnen nor Sardukar use shields in the desert because the Holtzman Effect attract worms. Also we die hards know what happens when shields and lasers interact.
2:07 I'd quit my job about watching the Boss do that to my Coworker
Assuming you were there by choice.
I’m sure they would oblige by doing the same to you as he did to pilot #2.
@@Daryl524someone has to pilot the damn thing, first! Nothing stopping you from just crushing it.
Rabban, the strategic genius, lol
........HOW did the Harkonnen rule Arrakis for 80 years with impunity if they were THAT outmatched by the Fremen?
They use bomb
Fremen were not united like they are now
Fremen attacks beforr the coming of Muad Dib were on such a small scale that they don't seem to be a large problem for the Harkonnens.
@@biassicalabria3055there were no Lisan al Ghaib to unite them. Also, the Fremen fighting cultures make them fight each other as much as they fight Harkonnens
They didn't rule the entire arrakis, they only captured a portion of the planet, they didn't push through because of sandstorms and worms constantly lurking around. They only estimated the fremen to be like less than a thousand
Rabban's ornithopter looks like a menacing bumblebee😂
I think it's a command ornithopter, given all of the communication equipment
@@luker2693 Also carries more troops like a Chinook. Its like a frontline command post that can lead an asssault and carry the commanders personal guard.
During production, the team even called it a "bee thopter"
Rabban carrying a whip into battle says everything about his character. He's a taskmaster, not a soldier.
Incredible 180 from "kill them all!" to "I'm just a little birthday boy, you wouldn't hurt the birthday boy on his birthday..."
The flight of the ornithopters was reminiscence of the Huey's Ride of the Valkyries scene in "Apocalypse Now". Both were cool.
Thought the same thing!
Has to be intentional. It was the first thing that came to mind.
so he killed the only guy who can detect the fremen
It was interesting to see that, with the more familiar dragonfly-looking ornithopters, there was at least one that had a more beetle-like truncated aspect to it. My image of these aerial vehicles was with more bird-like wings, so it was something to see them looking more like insects... and, to be honest, their similarity to helicopters adds a further sense that they could be real, actual flying machines.
4:56 rabban sits supported on his left arm 4:59 rabban lying supported on his left elbow
rahhh i love spotting minor cinematic inconsistencies
Several continuity errors in the film, notably the blood on Paul's face during his confrontation with the Emperor and Paul beginning to remove the knife from his shoulder starting with his right hand and finishing the movement with his left while holding _his_ knife in his right.
Additionally, there are several scenes where it's clear re-dubbing of dialogue occurred.
Nevertheless, I really enjoyed it as cinematic spectacle.
@@agesflow6815 also feyd rautha in this last scene sometimes had bloody nose and sometimes didn't. I was baked and tripping balls in the cinema but still noticed that one.
@@Puccini000 Good catch. I've seen it in IMAX, seen it while baked, but not while tripn. One day, maybe.
Now _Dune '84?_ Yeah, several times. 😎 Have a great day, Puccini000. 👍
Dune 2: $25 to RENT
Me: Watching this movie through TH-cam clips it is!
It's May the 3rd, 2024 and I paid $22.57 to watch Dune 2 in an IMAX theatre. Was it worth it? Nah not really but at $22.57, like you I could have just bought the digital rights to this movie and watch it over and over..
@@Hmongboi228so you have an IMAX screen and sound system at home? Damn I’m jealous.
Dude just doswnload it using torrents, it's 2024 who pays for digital copies of movies/shows these days
@@Hmongboi228it wasn’t worth $20 to see this in an imax? Are you dim?
I’m sorry did you say $25…….to rent?
1:25 me everyday in work
Real
4:19 those 10 seconds were a visual orgasm in the theater, amazing scene
Compare the last scene to Paul's escape from the sandworm. Paul had his trusted teacher, guard and friend tightly holding his hand. Rabban had to crawl back inside alone, had he slipped, tough luck.
When they call him Rabban the Beast that is a perfect description. No intellect, just brute force.
The sound design of the thopters (experienced in IMAX) makes this my favourite sequence of the whole movie
I like how it was a random harkonenn soldier that saves him, most movies wouldn't do that all the sode characters would be dead and the main ones do everything. I know its very nitpicky but i live little details lime that
Harkonnen's have to rank pretty high up on the scale of incompetent movie villains. Absolutely worthless.
Yeah they made them too dumb in part 2 honestly
The real villain is Paul and the Fremen. If you read the following books it becomes apparent.
@@user-or6yn8pm3c missed the point bud
@@ryannn97227 The Harkonnen were simply a prop to tell the story. They are evil at the time of the book but the Atriedes weren't nice either. In fact all the Houses and government in the imperium are fascist. Read the books and you will find out just how messed up the Fremen and Atriedes family are in the later books.
@@ryannn97227 In the final book Paul and Chani are resurrected as gholas and live happily ever after 5000 years after the events of the first book.
I know it wouldn't happen, but I wanted the Harkonnen to win one or two battles at least. There's no tension when the antagonists are shown to be repeatedly incompetent and ineffective.
actually from what i understand this was intentional with the Baron actually sabotaging his nephew so his other nephew can grow in influence and take over. Granted i would love to see Rabban win one battle even with all the sabotage from his own family.
They did show a harkonnen win when they bombed the fremens home
And also they won throughout the entire first movie
@@Spiderfisch Bombed the Fremens home? Attacking an empty rock is a win?
Come'on bro lol.
It's being accurate to the books largely. Harkonnens were always largely incompetent when it came to actively engaging the Fremen. It was hard enough for them on Arrakis before Paul Atreides was there to lead them.
@@_ArsNova Sure, I'm not disputing that, it is accurate to the book. If anything the movie buffed them by giving them a 'win' by attacking an unattended mountain. I just think it's a bit tensionless. However, that is the point of the theme of the book, that this serves the narrative of religious fanaticism etc.
Django: Look at them run.
Dr. Schultz: Yes cowards tend to to that.
Rabban explodes the shit out of the mountain the fremen are hiding in:
"Oh my god Rabban you're such an idiot"
Feyd Rautha explodes the shit out of the mountain the fremen are hiding in:
"Genius. You're literally melting rock on top of them."
We know which one is the favourite family member.
Rabban almost dying from a random Freman warrior really shows they are build different
This is not a Dune problem per say, but in the year 2024 I would really hope that at least one movie shows armour acting like armour. In every movie I’ve seen blades penetrate armour like it’s paper OR the fighters are so skilled that they make perfect strikes for the uncovered areas without even accidentally striking the armour at some point. I just want a movie where armour gets slashed and actually protects the wearer smh
The Punisher is the only show I can think of which does this. I don't know if its entierly consistent, but there are a few scenes in it where armor stopps bullets and non-vital attacks have to be taken to harm an opponent.
@iamsethhasting8911 outlaw King does it as well in the fight between Bruce and Edwards II. Sadly thst fight never happened in reality but it was a cool movie scene.
Great scene
I wish they made Raban a little more competent. Killing him in the end was like killing off an NPC.
Just thinking the same, wanted his death to have felt more earned
Yeah, his death was a scene where the viewer can truly feel that some things just had to be rushed. He was dealt with too quickly.
Maybe the intention, other than saving time, was to show just how good Gurney is, but Rabban definitely came out as weak and incompetent in the movie, getting his ass handed over to him pretty much in everything he did.
@@becausebuzzbomb6133 Rabban is weak and incompetent on the greater scale of things in the first place. The average Atreides soldier would rekt him, even.
If the rock had played rabban he would have single handedly defeated everyone.😤
The start of this scene is so impactful, in my opinion, because they set each scene at Arrakeen up by showing an aerial view. You go into the scene expecting to be taken into Arrakeen, or in this case the Spice Depot, and then your expectation is interrupted by the explosion of the Spice Depot.
Dave Bautista is so good in this and after reading that his agent told him to refuse to play Rabban cause he kisses the foot of the other antagonist and he did it anyway makes me have so much more respect for the guy.
It's like a Vietnam War reference.
The scene where they all takeoff is like the Air Cavalry sequence in "Apocalypse Now"
Vietnam was kicking off in 1965 when Frank Herbert wrote the novel.
The whole movie is Lawrence of Arabia inspired
@@TheGrrson yup
@@markh9755As a person who’s read the books I feel it’s more then just helping the Fremen claim arrakis. It’s about Paul struggling with his destiny. He can see everything yet can only see one path out of his circumstances. The other books explore this concept more then the first book did though.
That one Fremen almost yoinked Rabban. And that's just the usual Fremen warrior.
0:43 I LOVE this Harkonnen officers voice: Commanding, to-the-point, and you just know he’s furious at the Fremen like Rabban and Baron
The fear in Rabbans soldiers is wonderfully played.
It's amazing that there are so many Harkonnen. It seems like their soldiers would just go join some other house, unless their way worse. Not sure I haven't read the books
No one would trust a Harkonnen defector.
The common people couldn't travel to other planets. The Guild controlled all intergalactic travel as they owned highliner ships and had the guild navigator pilots. Otherwise you were stuck on your planet.
The Harkonnens command fanatical loyalty through fear and cruelty. Think North Korea. That and, as another has said already, space travel is severely limited. Only the Spacing Guild can fly through the universe (it's the whole reason Spice is so important, since they need it to find safe paths), and Guild price rates are extortionate. Some do manage to leave though. In fact, though he was a slave rather than a soldier, Gurney Halleck was born on Geidi Prime (the Harkonnen homeworld). He went on to become one of the finest Atreides warriors, one of the finest in the entire Imperium.
You cant really join another house as a normal person. It's like feudalism in space, your born into a house and unless you manage to become fabulously wealthy somehow or the best at somthing you aren't going anywhere
@@user-or6yn8pm3c I mean, I get why navigation is a tough point, but why couldn't people scrap together space-worthy ships?
"Harkonnen's aren't human, they're brutal!"
*Dies instantly without fighting back*
Okay that was a lie.
Tankbrain isn't so tough when his targets fight back.
0:10 the start of engine noises, blind panic. 👌
Dave Bautista is such a good actor, I'm glad to be seeing him in movies more and more. He is much better than people that have commonly taken similar roles
love how Harkonen get good at shooting at only very specific rare moments
I will forever love and appreciate how Denis Villeneuve used the action to help tell the story. I hadn't read the books before watching these movies, and I never understood why House Atreides considered the Fremen to be such an asset. Sure, Duncan said that "they fight like demons" but they still couldn't match up to the Sardaukar and struggled against House Harkonnen. But we got to see their full power on display in Part 2. With adequate time to plan, they're the perfect guerilla assassin fighting force. There's a full planet of them, and their leader can see the future and knows his enemies like the back of his hand. To anyone who hasn't read the book, it suddenly becomes clear how they were able to take over the known Universe in a matter of years.
I love that they added this in the movie. This was not in the book
Gotta hand it to Bautista for playing a role of a big guy but an absolute coward. He played his pathetic nature perfectly.
I like how Dave Bautista portrays Rabban as a spoilt toddler way out of their depth.
"For Muad'Dib!" I appreciate the passion, but you just wasted 2 seconds that could have made the difference.
Love how stealthy the Fremen are. Slaughtering the Harkonnens and showing Raban that he made a very big mistake.
I got a kick out of the Rabban character in this movie.
He's sort of this hapless dude, like the failson nephew whose alderman uncle got him a job on the police force. He took it thinking it was going to be a no-work desk gig only to find himself on patrol in the worst ghetto precinct in the city!🤣
The ornithopters sounds so good
This is probably my favorite movie scene
How did you fund raw footage of Prigozhin leading his men?
Cute you think any Russian Officer was actually within 200km of the frontline.
@@michaelgreenwood3413 Vice versa.
@@michaelgreenwood3413 Prigozhin wasn't a typical Russian officer. In fact he wasn't an officer or soldier at all and technically had no official position.
He was basically a mafia boss put in charge of a mercenary army which officially didn't exist.
Ah yes! Brilliant tactics by the Harkonnen. Truly amazing!
I love how in the beginning of the film the Harkonnen are highly confident in their hunt for the Fremen "rats." At this point in the film, they are terrified as they head into what they perceive will be a slaughter. You can also clearly see the utter dread in Rabban's face as he is desperate for any type of victory over the Fremen to appease his uncle who has so clearly showed his displeasure for his management of spice production.
The cinematography of Villeneuve's DUNE is of the finest that action movie making can offer.
I just love how the movie establishes the setting, and then IMMEDIATELY blows it up. That was legit funny to me.
The Fremen fighter who went after Rabban had sealed her fate, no escape, nothing except for the chance to kill for Muad'Dib. Imagine then millions of Fremen with the same fanaticism. Villeneuve is so unbelievably great at telling so much with so little.
Oh that last Fremen, never monolog, just strike.
In the future, they have no idea how to make knife-proof armor.
But what if they have better knives?
How the fuck a knife gonna cut steel@@chuckbuck5002
@@rbc923how you gonna around in the desert wearing steel?
3:54 I don’t get why more people aren’t talking about this. The sheer terror and awe it commands is fucking amazing. Easily one of my favorite shots of the movie, even if you’re barely looking at anything.
When I watch it in cinema it ca be seen clearly.
3:57: someone yelled: “Allah Akbar” 😂
"Strike!"
i like: 'Life..delta delta delta..."
I love how coordinated it was, the Fremen lured them in toward the rock formation just as the sun was going to break the top of it. Even probably knowing that Rabban would blast it and create all that sand cover
It’s an adaptation of the book so there will always be differences but Rabban is known as “Beast Rabban” in the book.
He’s probably portrayed as too much of a blunt instrument in the film but it fits together well. Makes a very good contrast with Gurney when the Fremen attack his smuggler crew:
“Don’t run!! Fight!!”