I really hate this apparent sentiment within the "sim" community that arcade games can't have wheel support, like... y'know, they've had since actual arcade machines since the 80's. Just because a game is "arcade" doesn't mean it has to feel terrible to drive. The Crew has pretty poor physics frankly, but that actually feels pretty decent on a wheel. So does Initial D and Battle Gear. Hell, I went to a Dave & Busters and they had Mario Kart arcade machines with a wheel.
@@Wheatybic No, a lot of people think that. If a racing game comes out that handles like shit and sucks to play they say "Well, it's an arcade game." Need For Speed and The Crew apologists say this all the time to try and counter the point that the game feels like shit to play. And this guy literally said "It's an arcade game, so wheel support isn't expected." Which is horseshit. Most arcade games of old had wheel support.
@@Zaiross7 I play lots of racing games, across the entire spectrum. Enthusia, GT4, Midnight Club 3, Burnout 3, the entire Driver franchise, every DiRT game, Assetto Corsa, Forza, Project Cars, etc. It's not really about being a sim tryhard, it's that modern arcade racers fucking suck so it's collectively wiped the memory of arcade games that are actually fun to play.
The Crew 2 physics dont seem bad for me. I play PC2, Assetto Corsa and GT Sport on my G29, but when i go from those to The Crew 2 and vice versa, i dont struggle that much from the difference of the physics, specially since The Crew 2 has had a big improvement on ffb since its launch. It used to be inexistent, now it atleast reacts to what is happening. The ffb is poor when compared to PC2, but atleast it s present and the physics still have the basics of driving, like having to brake to go into a turn, not being able to floor it in risk of spinning out (still allows a lot of throotle, but not always flooring it without tcs), unlike nfs, where the fastest way to take a corner is by pulling the handbrake... I came here expecting for a miracle, but nfs will never leave the miracle that drifting does to make faster turns...
Just today I used my G27 wheel on my PC to play NFS Heat because of the whole quarantine and I liked it, not much of a sim player but honestly this was the third most fun I had with the wheel only behind of Daytona USA and Gran Turismo 5.
I use to play the old need for speeds on the ps2 with a wheel all the time as a kid so I was super excited for this to happen. I waited so long for this game and payed so much money for the preorder so I hope they continue to update and make things better. But when I get home tonight after work I'm definitely gonna give my wheel a try with it and hope it's like the old days :)
As much as I enjoy Heat, the physics model not simulating anything like weight transfer or loss of grip just feels really, really weird. I like arcade handling models, but NFS just doesn't have one that's truly great. That being said, it's nice to see that the wheel works. I figured that the implementation wouldn't work with the super arcadey handling model, but its good to see it works surprisingly well. I'm surprised to see that the implementation is harmed more by the camera than anything else.
The arcade handling died after underground 2. The games are getting werder. The entire "car control" feels incredibly unpolished and super difficult to maneuver sometimes. I think they are trying to find a good place between realistic and arcade style, but its not there yet. Tho they kinda got it a bit right in this game.
You're opinions at the start mirror my experience in the game with wheel as well. As a result of the vague feeling wheel and lack of clutch i ended to having more fun with controller in this game
Thats the problem I've had with first person driving in gta 5. Its really realistic as far as the graphics, because the speedometer and radio is legit, but the rear view mirror and side mirrors are pointless. You either risk crashing the car reversing, or switch back to 3rd person.
Yeah, I hate blurry rear view mirrors. The Crew suffers pretty badly from it as well. They had blank mirrors, then the Wild Run update added blurry mirrors. The Crew 2 still has the same problem.
Hey man... A curious question... Why don't you mod your paddle shifters... There are bigger paddle shifters to fit the "realistic" dimension wheel mods so that you can again use paddles to drive?
im having an issue with my g920 where my centering spring wont lessen and feels way to strong, like im getting a workout every corner i take, i have tried a lot but cant seem to get it to stay set to the options in both game and ghub app it seems to default back to like a 50% setting when i tab back into the game.
The problem about nfs heat is with the super cars, they have insane grip and you can turn at 250km with no problem feels so unatural I honestly enjoy playing with the Sedans or most "low tier" cars even on some muscle not every muscle (not the modern ones they feel like the super cars) and tracks that have lot of turns and curves Those cars on the turns/corners feels a kind of weight in the car, know when to break to not fly over the track or not under steer, know when to accelerate to not go so open or oversteer, and feels much more rewarding to break in the right time and how you enter the turn/corner
I honestly feel like the devs just fully enabled the steering and drift assist for all platforms. There's no way in hell a car would be able to wiggle itself into a fixed angle after drifting, taking light curves, or even off-roading... Physics like this aren't even in Wreckfest or Burnout Paradise Remastered.
hey i was thinking about buying a steering wheel for racing games. how do i know which ones to buy? are there specific wheels for specific games or does one work universally for all games that are compatible? i play on ps4
Yeah, thats not gonna happen. And thats not a problem! They are different genres. If you wanted pizza, its understandable that you wouldn't be satisfied with a burger. Not to say one is better than the other, they are just 2 very different things.
@@hossel_ But why would you eat pizza or a burger when you could eat a burger pizza eh eh? They are not looking very different now are they? How do you like dem apples?
First half of the video: maybe I should cancel my order 2nd half: ahh' let's just give it a try... I've been wanting to get a steering wheel so going in with a stock G29...
@@AvesZephyros When I first got it, played Heat for the first few days, It was quite fun. Then I purchased Dirt 4 and played that for a couple of weeks & the feedback with the clutch and what not made racing physics even more interesting. Then I went back to Heat and noticed it was kinda hard to get back into things... one of the things I could use would be an external E-brake, since the E-brake is the square button on the steering and its kinda hard to press while turning... overall I'll keep the racing peripherals, my expectations were quite low but I think this is something I could comeback to when I get bored with other games or when the nephew comes to visit :)
my main takeaway from this video is that the steering wheel I just ordered the other day for Forza Horizon may actually be wasted money... why are you the first person I've heard say that?
Yeah Horizon is a nightmare on wheels..... Its almost like the wheels themselves can't keep up with how fast paced the game is. Forza 7 on the other hand plays really well with wheels.
Its non a sim game, is arcade as nfs majority. Dont expect something near asseto corsa for example because you will get dissapointed. I definitly dont like it but maybe u will.
Play GRID. Best arcade racer on Xbox One. Blow out Forza's, Crew whatever. Just wish it had more cars! Im on a Thrustmaster TX with shifter. Best FFB ever!
Driving in first person is immersive but is also very heavily consuming on your eyesight, just like shooting in first person or sneaking in first person. So I recommend you guys to play any game in third person. Thats for your own health.
Oh boy. Its just not worth the time.. after i tried, i figure out that i lost 30 min of my life. I came from forza 5 to here, and its bad :) i think its just better with the controller
I love nfs heat because we can really have a very good time playing is not like forza after 1h we are tired of playing the same thing, nfs have a lot of things to do
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Honestly the NFS games need a first person view. On low settings you can still see the numbers on your shifter, so interior detail isn't an issue.
Yea, even nfs 2015 had detailed interiors.
There is a TH-cam tutorial for using a cinematic tool to lock the camera to the players head
@@raghavrao5221 what!?
@@JulianDaniel2003. The first NFS had it.
I really hate this apparent sentiment within the "sim" community that arcade games can't have wheel support, like... y'know, they've had since actual arcade machines since the 80's.
Just because a game is "arcade" doesn't mean it has to feel terrible to drive. The Crew has pretty poor physics frankly, but that actually feels pretty decent on a wheel. So does Initial D and Battle Gear. Hell, I went to a Dave & Busters and they had Mario Kart arcade machines with a wheel.
nobody thinks that. you've randomly just made it up in your head that people think that lmao
@@Wheatybic No, a lot of people think that. If a racing game comes out that handles like shit and sucks to play they say "Well, it's an arcade game." Need For Speed and The Crew apologists say this all the time to try and counter the point that the game feels like shit to play.
And this guy literally said "It's an arcade game, so wheel support isn't expected." Which is horseshit. Most arcade games of old had wheel support.
just ignore sim tryhards
@@Zaiross7 I play lots of racing games, across the entire spectrum. Enthusia, GT4, Midnight Club 3, Burnout 3, the entire Driver franchise, every DiRT game, Assetto Corsa, Forza, Project Cars, etc. It's not really about being a sim tryhard, it's that modern arcade racers fucking suck so it's collectively wiped the memory of arcade games that are actually fun to play.
The Crew 2 physics dont seem bad for me. I play PC2, Assetto Corsa and GT Sport on my G29, but when i go from those to The Crew 2 and vice versa, i dont struggle that much from the difference of the physics, specially since The Crew 2 has had a big improvement on ffb since its launch. It used to be inexistent, now it atleast reacts to what is happening. The ffb is poor when compared to PC2, but atleast it s present and the physics still have the basics of driving, like having to brake to go into a turn, not being able to floor it in risk of spinning out (still allows a lot of throotle, but not always flooring it without tcs), unlike nfs, where the fastest way to take a corner is by pulling the handbrake... I came here expecting for a miracle, but nfs will never leave the miracle that drifting does to make faster turns...
Just today I used my G27 wheel on my PC to play NFS Heat because of the whole quarantine and I liked it, not much of a sim player but honestly this was the third most fun I had with the wheel only behind of Daytona USA and Gran Turismo 5.
gt5 is a superior racing game
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I use to play the old need for speeds on the ps2 with a wheel all the time as a kid so I was super excited for this to happen. I waited so long for this game and payed so much money for the preorder so I hope they continue to update and make things better. But when I get home tonight after work I'm definitely gonna give my wheel a try with it and hope it's like the old days :)
How was it?
How did you go bro ?
Didn't know that was possible back in the day
As much as I enjoy Heat, the physics model not simulating anything like weight transfer or loss of grip just feels really, really weird. I like arcade handling models, but NFS just doesn't have one that's truly great.
That being said, it's nice to see that the wheel works. I figured that the implementation wouldn't work with the super arcadey handling model, but its good to see it works surprisingly well. I'm surprised to see that the implementation is harmed more by the camera than anything else.
Totally agreed
The arcade handling died after underground 2. The games are getting werder. The entire "car control" feels incredibly unpolished and super difficult to maneuver sometimes. I think they are trying to find a good place between realistic and arcade style, but its not there yet.
Tho they kinda got it a bit right in this game.
@@airsofttactical5860 Yup. And considering Criterion is back on the series I don't have high hopes for future handling models.
Thank you so much for the e-brake fix I found it very useful
I just ordered one, I'm gonna love it
You're opinions at the start mirror my experience in the game with wheel as well. As a result of the vague feeling wheel and lack of clutch i ended to having more fun with controller in this game
Great video as always Hoki! Keep up the good work bro
The handling in the game needs to be on the level of nfs underground 2 before they tackle the wheel
I was looking for this because I thought it was weird that I had so little FF. Thanks for confirming it’s the game.
They should really add wheel pov it would be so much better
I agree they should add the persons driving perspective it feels weird without it
I will say I'm this close to pulling out my controller for drifting, it's nearly impossible with the wheel.
Do you only turn half way in heat?
Use 540 degree it perfect for drifting
Reminds me of legit arcade racing games youd drop a quarter in. But fresher. Shame they abandoned this game
Not having a rear view mirror puts first person camera players at a serious disadvantage.
Thats the problem I've had with first person driving in gta 5. Its really realistic as far as the graphics, because the speedometer and radio is legit, but the rear view mirror and side mirrors are pointless. You either risk crashing the car reversing, or switch back to 3rd person.
Yeah, I hate blurry rear view mirrors. The Crew suffers pretty badly from it as well. They had blank mirrors, then the Wild Run update added blurry mirrors. The Crew 2 still has the same problem.
I played this first and then got into Forza 7 :) nice way to start with racing games
Assetto Corsa next? :D
Then CarX drift :p
LETS GO THEY DID IT
how to connect g29 with nfs heat, please?
Interesting feed back mate
Santa s gonna bring me G923
Will try that out 😊👍
What are your control settings.
Hey man... A curious question... Why don't you mod your paddle shifters... There are bigger paddle shifters to fit the "realistic" dimension wheel mods so that you can again use paddles to drive?
Me who used only wheel since payback, 2015, and now heat: What is a controller?
im having an issue with my g920 where my centering spring wont lessen and feels way to strong, like im getting a workout every corner i take, i have tried a lot but cant seem to get it to stay set to the options in both game and ghub app it seems to default back to like a 50% setting when i tab back into the game.
How did you remap the clutch to nitrous?
The problem about nfs heat is with the super cars, they have insane grip and you can turn at 250km with no problem feels so unatural
I honestly enjoy playing with the Sedans or most "low tier" cars even on some muscle not every muscle (not the modern ones they feel like the super cars) and tracks that have lot of turns and curves
Those cars on the turns/corners feels a kind of weight in the car, know when to break to not fly over the track or not under steer, know when to accelerate to not go so open or oversteer, and feels much more rewarding to break in the right time and how you enter the turn/corner
I honestly feel like the devs just fully enabled the steering and drift assist for all platforms. There's no way in hell a car would be able to wiggle itself into a fixed angle after drifting, taking light curves, or even off-roading... Physics like this aren't even in Wreckfest or Burnout Paradise Remastered.
Yen the Fox Plus it's pointless to have a racing wheel in a crappy handling game like NFS Heat
6RIE dont care didn’t ask
hey i was thinking about buying a steering wheel for racing games. how do i know which ones to buy? are there specific wheels for specific games or does one work universally for all games that are compatible? i play on ps4
Hello. Could you tell me the weel settings you have? I have been playing with the settings and the game doesn't give an option to reset to default
How did you get JoyToKey to map your handbrake to space? In the list of button maps I can't see space. Thanks
they need to fix the ffb
Could your share your JoyToKey settings for your handbrake? I'd like to get a handbrake set-up on my PC (I have a Logitech G920).
Is there some simulator that shows car stats such as its speed, acceleration, lane...? I want to use one such with my Logitech g29
did you experience any camera bugs when fitting in your handbrake? i have this issue where it's automatically facing the hood of my car
Can I connect my g29 to this on my ps4 because I want a open world game I am tired of racing In grand turismo racing?
Im gonna play NFS if it reaches same physics as forza horizon.
so never haha:)
Yeah, thats not gonna happen. And thats not a problem! They are different genres. If you wanted pizza, its understandable that you wouldn't be satisfied with a burger. Not to say one is better than the other, they are just 2 very different things.
@@hossel_ But why would you eat pizza or a burger when you could eat a burger pizza eh eh? They are not looking very different now are they? How do you like dem apples?
Try gt soort...physics is real better than assetto
@@hossel_yeah but forza isn’t on all consoles
First half of the video: maybe I should cancel my order
2nd half: ahh' let's just give it a try...
I've been wanting to get a steering wheel so going in with a stock G29...
Have you tried it out?? Is it fun?
@@AvesZephyros When I first got it, played Heat for the first few days, It was quite fun. Then I purchased Dirt 4 and played that for a couple of weeks & the feedback with the clutch and what not made racing physics even more interesting. Then I went back to Heat and noticed it was kinda hard to get back into things... one of the things I could use would be an external E-brake, since the E-brake is the square button on the steering and its kinda hard to press while turning...
overall I'll keep the racing peripherals, my expectations were quite low but I think this is something I could comeback to when I get bored with other games or when the nephew comes to visit :)
Could you please tell me where I could get the steering wheel and handbrake just like yours!
Man that shaz never did me good at all through my play through 😂
Can you just drift with your gas like take your foot off the gas and put it back on with the steering wheel
Will the sim rig setup work for PS4?
Thrustmaster T300 + Wheel Stand Pro V2 + IKEA Poäng♥️
The wheel support on ps4 disappeared after v.1.07? :(
Any input on drifting in this game with a wheel??
could nfs still work even if you dont have the handbrake
When I turn the wheel is there a way for the wheel to turn back automatically to the dead one
What are your wheel settings for this game ?
Can I use this game on ps4 with my G29 logitech?
Yes
@@sirdavid1458 how?
Hi my steering wheel G29 not working on PS4! Any ideas?
Had similar problem on xbox what fixed it for me was turning off controller and starting game with wheel.
@@Fablemaner Sorted. Thanks👍
Yo bro what are the settings for the wheel controls
Whats your control setting?
Can you Play on ps4 With the g29??
looks like I"ll have to bust out my Sidewinder forcefeedback wheel to play NFS Heat.
How do you use clutch as nos?
I have thrustmaster t150 wheel but pedals not working
"PC players are advised to install the Logitech G Hub, regardless of the wheel brand they're using." Maybe that has something to do with it?
my main takeaway from this video is that the steering wheel I just ordered the other day for Forza Horizon may actually be wasted money... why are you the first person I've heard say that?
Yeah Horizon is a nightmare on wheels..... Its almost like the wheels themselves can't keep up with how fast paced the game is. Forza 7 on the other hand plays really well with wheels.
@@dboy2258 looks like Forza 7 is the next game I try!
@dennis wright thank you! I did wonder... Next I think I'll try project cars 2 in vr
Its non a sim game, is arcade as nfs majority. Dont expect something near asseto corsa for example because you will get dissapointed. I definitly dont like it but maybe u will.
Listen closely to the background music. I shit you not I heard the lick.
*talks of g29 control*
Me: which car is he driving?
Damn you can’t use Shifter for this☹️
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try with pov mod working on online
It dosent work with fanatec
nfs heat is one of the best
same problem with every arcade, rubish ffb
Play GRID. Best arcade racer on Xbox One. Blow out Forza's, Crew whatever. Just wish it had more cars! Im on a Thrustmaster TX with shifter. Best FFB ever!
I'll stick to forza 😂
Hater you mad nfs is getting attention? nevermind I don't want to hear it
@@ZacharyMelendez-cn1ku u got issues 🤣. Stick to your arcade racing games. 👍
@@weaksosgamer458 Forza is an arcade racing game too lmfao
@@phonk76true, but motorsports is nothing like nfs 🤣. Suspension, brakes, diff, camber, etc all matters.
@@weaksosgamer458 I want u to play Assetto Corsa, Akina Downhill RX7. Then come back and edit ur messages please.
I got G29 and G25 I have both
Does this work with every wheel?
Not the cheap Ferrari wheel
@@joeyernest1207 lol ok
The game has a manual driving mode tho
Use the clutch anyway and you'll never miss a gear... 🤣 #prodriver
For some reason I cant use my.tmx :(
I tried with my tmx too. doesn’t work.
I think you need to install a software. "PC players are advised to install the Logitech G Hub, regardless of the wheel brand they're using."
Driving in first person is immersive but is also very heavily consuming on your eyesight, just like shooting in first person or sneaking in first person. So I recommend you guys to play any game in third person. Thats for your own health.
So what about Cyberpunk2077? Well I think a mod is more likely so just be patient.
I prefer sims but I can get down with a pure arcade. Might try this out
wheel support is awful with this game.. I have a Thrustmaster TW-TS and it is riddiculous with NFS heat compared to Fora Horizon or F1
Its jo good with a wheel on ps4. The settings suck
Oh boy. Its just not worth the time.. after i tried, i figure out that i lost 30 min of my life. I came from forza 5 to here, and its bad :) i think its just better with the controller
I love nfs heat because we can really have a very good time playing is not like forza after 1h we are tired of playing the same thing, nfs have a lot of things to do
HARD WORKOUTX I mostly disagree because NFS Heat is pretty much dead, lack of content. Forza Motorsport 7 is a game you can put countless hours into
Lmfao. Deep dish wheel. Why limit yourself???
look like not a good game for wheel..
Sounds are good. Physics are shit. NFS H in a nutshell.
if they fix they’re pixels and physics i’ll redownload it
* their
How am I supposed to trust someone on this subject who’s using automatic??
It just looks like a mobile game to me
Its ps4
?
Never been this early
thats not logitech g29.
It is, just a custom rim
@@dandrawsit4915 man i was dumb back then i never knew i commented on this video 😂
@@Iiverpoolfc it's cool dood, happens to me all the time 😅
I wastn first rip
First?
the worst experience to play NFS is with steering wheel 😄