I'm gonna assume it's the stealth capabilities of the F-45 that allows you to notch those missiles so easily because HOLY CRAP HOW DO YOU DO THAT SO EASILY
After a devistating failure of the infiltration Mission 'Scalpel', the Assault Carrier USS America was the only Ship left in her Carrier Group. And as if to add insult to injury, The enemy Carrier Group was on hot pursuit of the retreating America, taking out her Fighter compliment in the process, almost leaving her defenseless. Only the Pilot of the fairly new (for this) F-45 was able to escape the onslaught. Now with the full weaponry of multiple fighter squadrons and the rage over the loss of his comrades at his disposal, not to mention an equally pissed off Carrier Captain at his back, the Pilot decides to take the fight directly to the enemy.
If your curious about evading missles of different types search "grim reapers missle evasion" into TH-cam. The videos are for DCS but tricks should still work in VTOL VR. The first few vids should be about evading lethal range IR and Radar guided missles, then one about evading radar SAMs, and one for notching.
Imagine how terrified those ship crews were seeing all their guys get blown outta the air then slowly start losing ships and radar... And they still couldn't hit that damn F-45
today i was flying with the F-45 after not using it a while, when i was flying with some random guys when a missile fired they all broke away and i didnt, i straight up had COMPLETE FREE REIGN over the area, only manual triple a guns could dream about hitting me.
I’m not 100% shure but i think the pylons of the used aim-120’s make the f-45 easier to see on radar so when they are used up, you should jettison the remaining pylons thats empty ;)
@@leongao5120 i second this statement, but that can also be done by opening the bay doors by holding the trigger button with the AIM9X's on head track mode + trigger uncage.
"Excellent job, Captain. This is why we chose you to partake in this operation." As for now, Eyos; That is all. Thank you for making another badass video!
This just goes to show how much of a powerhouse the 45 is with the right pilot. Its an absolute air to ground machine. I don't care about your 30mm Gau 8 or how many bombs your 26 can carry. I dumb 24 a2g faf missiles from 40k feet up and 40nm away to blow up an entire Airfield simultaneously, land vertically at my carrier, and do it again, while youre "g- pulling" and "notching" the air defenses and beg ME to send accurate gps coordinates for your antique weapons. 5th gen all the way baby.
Really impressive, I'm definitely taking notes! I gotta ask, what is the reason for the maneuver you're doing when dumping countermeasures? like shown at 08:44. Does it help spread out the flares? Really interested in knowing more about this!
@@EyosYT Interesting, I would have thought by rolling like that you would increase your radar signature, showing your belly to the tracking radar. Is this a realistic maneuver?
@@pseudocoder78 particularly realistic? Uncertain. Notching itself is absolutely a real maneuver fighter pilots used to defeat some missiles, though. As for the radar signature, you are correct about the roll giving the enemy a greater RCS. However, in the case of VTOL VR, you want the missile to pitbull earlier so you have more time to chaff it off, so that increase in RCS actually helps a lot.
Thank you for this! This will definitely help me dodge missiles in the 45 lol. I just die all the time. I enjoyed rhe content. If I may ask, how do you record your videos? I use geforce recording to just capture my desktop and use scam but i find that i cant get good footage for review especially when evading missiles. I.e i shoot a missile but also defend and want to review how i evade but it ends up recoeding rhe missile and i miss rhe show of defending lol. It looks like you are able to cspture all views and cut out piece by piece. Thank you in advance!
I know the F 35 has good stealth but... is it really realistic you would be able to get THAT CLOSE to the fleet without them detecting you before you launched your antiship missiles? At that point you had to have been within visual range.
Abso fuckin lutely I don't want to be only pro us but an f35 has the capability of what the b2 fa111 and f22 has taught the us combined with an array of sensors that would be able to do particle physics so ye it's the thing that will fuck you up from 100 miles out and not give a shit about your dinky ass fire control Radar
Not sure about irl, but in the game you can get within 4 miles of a radar without detection if you have no external pylons, keep your radar off and fly directly at it. The F35 even has a soft body that absorbs radar, so I wouldn't be surprised if this was accurate
The TGP and EOTS always have a laser that guides the munitions on and running whenever you use them. The laser mark button turns on the IR laser so that you can see it at night when you are using night vision.
Lol. I do make missions every once in a while. The mission you saw was a mission that I made for the purpose of this video. Unfortunately, I no longer have the files for it.
It does. In order to turn it on you have to go to your EOTS page and press the HEAD button. That will link the view from the electro-optical targeting system to your helmet-mounted cueing system allowing you to "see" through the plane.
@@MichaelWeber5237 Yeah it obscures your instruments. Typically head track is useful for trying to find targets but once you have the target locked there is little reason to keep it linked to your vision.
@@MichaelWeber5237 You also can't target anything while the EOTS is in head mode, so you can't shoot FAF missiles / laser bombs while looking through the plane.
Now try it with real players and they use the t-55, there wasn't really much competition because once you took down the bot fighter jets it was easy to go back rearm and take down the boats, plus it would be very fun to watch your perspective and the other players perspective on the game.
ik im pretty late but what mission is this? is it part of the f 45 missions or is it from steam workshop?? recently got into vtol vr and was wanting to give this mission a shot
I use a third-party program called LIV first-person stabilizer. Unfortunately, that means that, unlike the in-game S-cam, it captures everything including the helmet. To maximize FOV and make it so that you don't have to see my helmet all video I turned off the helmet. This is not a problem when I'm in the 26, 55, or 42. However, in the 45 or helicopter because of the small size of the helmet and visor, it means that when I put the visor down I can see over it where the helmet would have once covered it up. So you get this odd clear sky, visor, clear sky sandwich that just looks bad in the video. One of these days the dev will fix it fingers crossed. I hope that answered your question I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
I've jotted down the deets, I'm gonna try to remake this mission (and put it on steam if that's cool with you). I want to try it, not only in the 45, but also the 26, and especially the 24 now that it's out, just to see how they compare in such a tasking.
I make my OBS canvas 2560x2880 and record two programs stacked on each other. The first program that I record is VTOL VR's S-Cam. I use Chase mode, FOV 40, and TGT. That gives me my third-person view. For my first-person perspective, I use a program called LIV first-person stabilizer. Though theoretically, you could steam VR view or Oculus mirror. I choose LIV because it gives me the best FOV and stabilization for looking around the cockpit.
I don't have the mission file anymore. The map itself is called Calius - Ocean Map and you can find it by looking it up in the workshop. It's just a pure ocean map though so nothing fancy.
Incase you werent aware from what I know you don't need to use the radar on the f45 but PLEASE correct me if I am wrong because I havent been using my radar.
You are correct you should almost never use the radar in PvP. That said, in PvE it's not a big deal if you use the radar because the enemy doesn't react the same way players do when they see a stealth plane pinging them.
@@ssantiagosanchez3144 It makes the tracks you get on your TSD much more accurate than just the data you get from your RWR pings (even moreso with the new EWAR changes), so it can make your missiles track much more accurately.
emmmm, I remember that flares won't work well when your AB is turned on. But long range missiles also won't track IR signals so that's fine. No offense, just saying that.
If one was trying to be as theoretically efficient as possible with their countermeasures one could turn off their flares when defending radar-guided missiles and vice versa with IR-guided missiles. However, from a practical standpoint trying to fiddle with the switches to make sure that you are only releasing chaff or flares is unreasonable. I, like most people, just leave the chaff and flares on regardless of the incoming missile type. That way, no matter what, I'm releasing the proper countermeasure to defeat the incoming missile.
@@EyosYT You are right and in fact, the chances of facing heat-seeking missiles are quite rare. Most situations involve BVR combat or encounters with SAM. Close-quarters dogfights, like those we often seen in classic air combat video games, are actually not very common in this game. Furthermore, it's the same for me that identify the type of incoming missile while RWR alerting then make quick decisions to switch off chaff or flare is indeed somewhat unrealistic.
ik this is way to late but anyone knwo this missions name or workshop and if it's multiplayer compatible, i've searched for quite a bit and couldn't find it (outside the game missions due to not having time to search in vr yet)
@@watch.v-dQw4w9WgXcQ Fox-1 is for semi-active radar missiles like the AIM-7 Sparrow, that don't have an onboard seeker, and must be guided all the way to the target by the launching aircraft
hmmmm you could of gotten soo many views if it was short like you cut it then the dog fights then you destroy the ships i know its hard but i have done it soo its possible ok man
I'm gonna assume it's the stealth capabilities of the F-45 that allows you to notch those missiles so easily because HOLY CRAP HOW DO YOU DO THAT SO EASILY
For radar guided if you how no external weapons yes it does
It certainly helps! But even with a fully loaded F26 you can defeat a missile while beaming with a single chaff if you time it right
@@LeeAndersonMusicyou can beat AI jet missiles with a 10g pull.
It’s the MAD 4 you need to beam
Well he has external hard points so there goes his stealth
What the hell is an f45 and f26, america have 5 stealth fighter aircraft, f22, f23, f35 a,b, and c
After a devistating failure of the infiltration Mission 'Scalpel', the Assault Carrier USS America was the only Ship left in her Carrier Group. And as if to add insult to injury, The enemy Carrier Group was on hot pursuit of the retreating America, taking out her Fighter compliment in the process, almost leaving her defenseless. Only the Pilot of the fairly new (for this) F-45 was able to escape the onslaught.
Now with the full weaponry of multiple fighter squadrons and the rage over the loss of his comrades at his disposal, not to mention an equally pissed off Carrier Captain at his back, the Pilot decides to take the fight directly to the enemy.
This is awesome!
i like how this video was on the same recommended page as "10 F22s vs the entire north korean airforce"
"Fox 3, fox 3, fox 3, fox 3, fox 3" 😂
And bro made a mushroom cloud at the end lol
Now i know how to evade missiles better thank you
If your curious about evading missles of different types search "grim reapers missle evasion" into TH-cam. The videos are for DCS but tricks should still work in VTOL VR. The first few vids should be about evading lethal range IR and Radar guided missles, then one about evading radar SAMs, and one for notching.
Imagine how terrified those ship crews were seeing all their guys get blown outta the air then slowly start losing ships and radar...
And they still couldn't hit that damn F-45
today i was flying with the F-45 after not using it a while, when i was flying with some random guys when a missile fired they all broke away and i didnt, i straight up had COMPLETE FREE REIGN over the area, only manual triple a guns could dream about hitting me.
@@thedootguy4444 sounds like honest dogfighting era aproaching
@@ChristoFerrus not happening
@@thedootguy4444 :(
I’m not 100% shure but i think the pylons of the used aim-120’s make the f-45 easier to see on radar so when they are used up, you should jettison the remaining pylons thats empty ;)
Thing is that you want the extra rcs as it gives you more time to react when the missile goes pitbull
@@leongao5120 i second this statement, but that can also be done by opening the bay doors by holding the trigger button with the AIM9X's on head track mode + trigger uncage.
@@BomkzYou can also manually override them in the sms page
Sure*
Thanks, great show! Good to hear you talk through your decision-making process. Have yet to really get to grips with the F-45. Keep them coming
"Excellent job, Captain. This is why we chose you to partake in this operation." As for now, Eyos; That is all. Thank you for making another badass video!
Great job! AFAIK if you jettison empty hardpoints on your wings you will be stealthier.
That is correct. I didn't think about it while I was playing.
is this a mod or is it already in the game@@EyosYT
@@randomOhioan The F-45 is a default aircraft in the game.
@@risingsun9595 thanks
What about the map
The Ace Combat music is so very appropriate
I was hoping for a gun run on that last ship, but the dive bombing run was just as good!
*"Who the fuck invited the VX-23 from Project Wingman?!"*
**Predictable**
I can only imagine how OP this guy would be with the new EF-24G and another skilled pilot like himself
Love that you are flying AC 06 from VMFA-121. Used to work with that unit.
"LRSSG, you are free to engage!"
I love ur vids. Please keep doing them. VTOL has a lot to show, and i can't wait to see it. Love ya
This just goes to show how much of a powerhouse the 45 is with the right pilot. Its an absolute air to ground machine.
I don't care about your 30mm Gau 8 or how many bombs your 26 can carry.
I dumb 24 a2g faf missiles from 40k feet up and 40nm away to blow up an entire Airfield simultaneously, land vertically at my carrier, and do it again, while youre "g- pulling" and "notching" the air defenses and beg ME to send accurate gps coordinates for your antique weapons.
5th gen all the way baby.
Rebel raiders music would go incredibly hard over this
Never heard of that game before so I checked it out and I agree the music in it slaps.
Really impressive, I'm definitely taking notes!
I gotta ask, what is the reason for the maneuver you're doing when dumping countermeasures? like shown at 08:44. Does it help spread out the flares? Really interested in knowing more about this!
That maneuver is called the wiggle and is a way to more consistently hit the notch and chaff off missiles.
@@EyosYT I see! Thank you so much for the reply!
the missile loosed speed or energy because it has to pull hard to go left and right
@@EyosYT Interesting, I would have thought by rolling like that you would increase your radar signature, showing your belly to the tracking radar. Is this a realistic maneuver?
@@pseudocoder78 particularly realistic? Uncertain. Notching itself is absolutely a real maneuver fighter pilots used to defeat some missiles, though. As for the radar signature, you are correct about the roll giving the enemy a greater RCS. However, in the case of VTOL VR, you want the missile to pitbull earlier so you have more time to chaff it off, so that increase in RCS actually helps a lot.
You made it look easy, I liked this video!
This gives me more of a reason to join VFA-97
yess my sister used to work for the warhawks
This shit played like a ace combat mission well done
Nice to see someone with such a similar screen setup on the F45, but mirrored to mine
holy fuck same, got the same one as you.
@@Bomkz That makes 3 of us. TSD on left gang
@@zeldas_her080 hell yeah!
And I can hardly land at a carrier, good job!
Thank you for this! This will definitely help me dodge missiles in the 45 lol. I just die all the time. I enjoyed rhe content. If I may ask, how do you record your videos? I use geforce recording to just capture my desktop and use scam but i find that i cant get good footage for review especially when evading missiles. I.e i shoot a missile but also defend and want to review how i evade but it ends up recoeding rhe missile and i miss rhe show of defending lol. It looks like you are able to cspture all views and cut out piece by piece. Thank you in advance!
When you use the S-cam be sure to have it set to chase, tgt, and 40 FOV. This mode is what I use in my videos. Hope this helps!
Good gameplay. Also very interesting and original content!
I gotta start playing this game again!
I know the F 35 has good stealth but... is it really realistic you would be able to get THAT CLOSE to the fleet without them detecting you before you launched your antiship missiles? At that point you had to have been within visual range.
The stealth probably isn't that good in real life. Probably...
Abso fuckin lutely
I don't want to be only pro us but an f35 has the capability of what the b2 fa111 and f22 has taught the us combined with an array of sensors that would be able to do particle physics so ye it's the thing that will fuck you up from 100 miles out and not give a shit about your dinky ass fire control Radar
Not sure about irl, but in the game you can get within 4 miles of a radar without detection if you have no external pylons, keep your radar off and fly directly at it.
The F35 even has a soft body that absorbs radar, so I wouldn't be surprised if this was accurate
@@LeeAndersonMusic Yeah but they could SEE him.
@@weemissile I suppose, but if you can't lock your radar missiles onto the plane, what good is that gonna do them
why did the GBU-12s hit their target when you had MARK OFF on the TGP? i thought they were laser guided
The TGP and EOTS always have a laser that guides the munitions on and running whenever you use them. The laser mark button turns on the IR laser so that you can see it at night when you are using night vision.
I was wondering the same thing.Ty for the answer @EyosYT
Nice work, subscribed!
5:03 congratulation! your Not-F35 is now grounded thanks to that half second of over-G! :D
Fitting music choice
I don't have VTOLVR but I want it a lot
I spend more time trying to get a layout I like in the MFD than I spend actually flying this plane 😅 Do you make missions yourself?
Lol. I do make missions every once in a while. The mission you saw was a mission that I made for the purpose of this video. Unfortunately, I no longer have the files for it.
POV South China Sea, 2035, Colorized
Also nice gameplay. Would love to see some carrier ops Tyro action
Mans is really using ace combat music
Awesome vide
most frustrating thing about close engagements with stealth fighters, you can see them fine, but weapons-grade locks are so slippery
Ace Combat Soundtrack 👍
Ace combat music approved
Awesome work 👍
I thought the 45's helmets let you see through the cabin in it's AR view? Am I thinking of another plane or is that just not in the game?
It does. In order to turn it on you have to go to your EOTS page and press the HEAD button. That will link the view from the electro-optical targeting system to your helmet-mounted cueing system allowing you to "see" through the plane.
@@EyosYT Oh sweet, does that make it harder to read the instrument panel and that's why you don't fly with it, or something else?
@@MichaelWeber5237 Yeah it obscures your instruments. Typically head track is useful for trying to find targets but once you have the target locked there is little reason to keep it linked to your vision.
@@MichaelWeber5237 You also can't target anything while the EOTS is in head mode, so you can't shoot FAF missiles / laser bombs while looking through the plane.
Very clean 👌
Great video! For the carrier I would have taken the 1000lb dumb bombs. Mk. 83 i think
Hard getting close with the bombs when the carrier CIWS is still up and running but yeah a Mk. 83 probably would have one tapped it.
Honestly, that last one should have sunk after the collision with the forward boat.
Now try it with real players and they use the t-55, there wasn't really much competition because once you took down the bot fighter jets it was easy to go back rearm and take down the boats, plus it would be very fun to watch your perspective and the other players perspective on the game.
im pretty sure hitting ships in the superstructure does more damage and will sink them faster, could just be me not remembering correctly
nice one sir
Who would win?
An entire enemy carrier group
or:
One monumentally pissed off stealthy boi
ik im pretty late but what mission is this? is it part of the f 45 missions or is it from steam workshop?? recently got into vtol vr and was wanting to give this mission a shot
a bit of call of duty logic on the radar hits= sinks ship
Fun fact: You can jam super missles(the ones with the crown)
select the super missle on the TSD and press jam
good video
I didn’t know Notching worked against Modern Missiles.
What settings are you using for the s cam?
chase 40fov tgt
@@EyosYT thx bro 🙏
Welp, now we know who's getting drafted first
Very good gameplay!
Why do you keep your visor up?
I use a third-party program called LIV first-person stabilizer. Unfortunately, that means that, unlike the in-game S-cam, it captures everything including the helmet. To maximize FOV and make it so that you don't have to see my helmet all video I turned off the helmet. This is not a problem when I'm in the 26, 55, or 42. However, in the 45 or helicopter because of the small size of the helmet and visor, it means that when I put the visor down I can see over it where the helmet would have once covered it up. So you get this odd clear sky, visor, clear sky sandwich that just looks bad in the video. One of these days the dev will fix it fingers crossed. I hope that answered your question I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Is this the music from Ace Combat 21:00
can we retexture them into aliens or kaijus?
When you get a missile warning from a super cruiser turn your radar off
how do I vtol in the F-45?
How do you record gameplay??
I've jotted down the deets, I'm gonna try to remake this mission (and put it on steam if that's cool with you). I want to try it, not only in the 45, but also the 26, and especially the 24 now that it's out, just to see how they compare in such a tasking.
When I get back from vacation I plan on remaking this mission for the EF-24 in order to put it through its paces.
How do you record 2 views simultaneously?
I make my OBS canvas 2560x2880 and record two programs stacked on each other. The first program that I record is VTOL VR's S-Cam. I use Chase mode, FOV 40, and TGT. That gives me my third-person view. For my first-person perspective, I use a program called LIV first-person stabilizer. Though theoretically, you could steam VR view or Oculus mirror. I choose LIV because it gives me the best FOV and stabilization for looking around the cockpit.
@@EyosYT thanks!
Can I find this mission on the steam workshop?
I'm sorry I no longer have the mission files.
@@EyosYTWell, thanks for your time!
do you have a link for this map?
I don't have the mission file anymore. The map itself is called Calius - Ocean Map and you can find it by looking it up in the workshop. It's just a pure ocean map though so nothing fancy.
thanks, unfortunate@@EyosYT
Funny enought that mission wont be as easy after the EW update. You probably would get perma jammed and have to fire those missals blind.
Wtf is an F-45?
Also, nice Ace Combat bgm.
F-45 = American version of Chengdu J-26
Incase you werent aware from what I know you don't need to use the radar on the f45 but PLEASE correct me if I am wrong because I havent been using my radar.
You are correct you should almost never use the radar in PvP. That said, in PvE it's not a big deal if you use the radar because the enemy doesn't react the same way players do when they see a stealth plane pinging them.
@@EyosYT But does it have any effect on radar guided missles?
@@ssantiagosanchez3144 It makes the tracks you get on your TSD much more accurate than just the data you get from your RWR pings (even moreso with the new EWAR changes), so it can make your missiles track much more accurately.
emmmm, I remember that flares won't work well when your AB is turned on. But long range missiles also won't track IR signals so that's fine. No offense, just saying that.
If one was trying to be as theoretically efficient as possible with their countermeasures one could turn off their flares when defending radar-guided missiles and vice versa with IR-guided missiles. However, from a practical standpoint trying to fiddle with the switches to make sure that you are only releasing chaff or flares is unreasonable. I, like most people, just leave the chaff and flares on regardless of the incoming missile type. That way, no matter what, I'm releasing the proper countermeasure to defeat the incoming missile.
@@EyosYT You are right and in fact, the chances of facing heat-seeking missiles are quite rare. Most situations involve BVR combat or encounters with SAM. Close-quarters dogfights, like those we often seen in classic air combat video games, are actually not very common in this game. Furthermore, it's the same for me that identify the type of incoming missile while RWR alerting then make quick decisions to switch off chaff or flare is indeed somewhat unrealistic.
Do you have the link for this mission?
I thought the enemy aircraft were like f-26 and stuff they look like they should be like a su or a mig I what to see the ai aircraft be playable
no workshop map link????
If the f35 is so cool then why havent they made a sequel?!
:O
How is recording a vr game in 4k?
*The USS America*
Nice.
Well, when you name a ship after every state, there's really only one way to go from there 😂
ace combat be like
Couldn't you have used anti-rads for the ship radars?
F-45 didn’t have equip-able ARAD missiles when this mission was played.
Oh
How different is your flight simulator X
I choose one stealthy boy
Rifle, rifle, rifle, rifle, rifle, rifle, *gives up saying rifle 15 times*
ik this is way to late but anyone knwo this missions name or workshop and if it's multiplayer compatible, i've searched for quite a bit and couldn't find it (outside the game missions due to not having time to search in vr yet)
what map is it called?
What mission is this?
What map was this?
This mission was created using the Calius Ocean Map on the Steam Workshop. steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1764365195
Thank you much!@@EyosYT
if u got rid of those empty pilons on ur wings they would have a harder time seeing u
What's the map called
why noy use anti-ship missiles?
F-45 isn’t able to equip anti-ship cruise missiles.
@@EyosYT ah. oof.
why do you say box 3 every time you launch a missile?
Fox 3 is a radio signal that means he launched his missiles.
@@michaeledmunds7056 Specifically radar missiles, Fox 2 is signal for IR missiles, I dont know Fox 1
@@watch.v-dQw4w9WgXcQ Fox 1 is semi active radar homing missiles.
@@watch.v-dQw4w9WgXcQ Fox-1 is for semi-active radar missiles like the AIM-7 Sparrow, that don't have an onboard seeker, and must be guided all the way to the target by the launching aircraft
Imagine if you were fighting against real players and not garbage AI in those enemy planes.
21:09 nuts
GBU-12 are only 500 pounds... They also don't penetrate. Definitely not gonna do squat to a Carrier deck.
What is f45
Ace combat ahh mission
How you gonna talk about the f-45 but put a j-15 on the thumbnail
So OP that one was 'lost' in the middle of the U.S
I know what you are.
Ayo Jesus is here?!
not really a stealthy boy if you don't jettison your pylons is it
hmmmm you could of gotten soo many views if it was short like you cut it then the dog fights then you destroy the ships i know its hard but i have done it soo its possible ok man
A lot of us prefer the full mission thanks. What you're describing is just a preference that not everyone has.
ppl who know this music from ace combat
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