I Paid 5 Developers to create an ENTIRE App for me!
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Any insights as to why it took 8 months?
Thanks 🙂
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Whom you have design it with at the end ??
When you're an developer and know that most things separating all apps but the first is some layout stuff. Sam Beckman you can actually edit any of those 4 apps to looks like identical to the one you like in less then an hour. It's the code behind them that matters most. AND ... making sure it runs (tests)
@@moathalrababah2182 ss
Best pronunciation of my name I've ever heard 😂
Thanks for featuring me in the video Sam. Really appreciate your efforts to make the home setup submission process easier.
Kia baat a mere yaar di
O sam de bachya naam sahi leya kar ali da
Haha
You're an amazing app developer...keep up the good work bro🙌🏽
Good job Ali! Like Sam said, your Setup Activity View is really nice! For a 2.0, I suggest removing the hamburger menu since a lot of Android phones are utilizing gesture navigation more.
He said A Lil Aldin 😂
Thank you man 💜, I am very grateful to mention me here and really enjoyed working with you.
Great design on the app man, really liked it!
I might contact you
I really loved your implementation of the screenshots. Looked super professional but also unique and interesting. Solid work mate.
الله ينور يا حس
I loved your app the most , great job man
You hired them for their developing skills but judged them for their design skills. You should've went to a designer first
I mean fair enough, but also he's going to a one stop shop. If you are offering your skills as an app developer and you are doing everything yourself, you should probably be able to deliver on design as well.
@@zeragon7 Clearly you don't understand Software Development Life Cycle nor the Tech Industry. He took a lot of shortcuts, and going for design first review.
And for the price that most of candidates were charging is underprice for the prototype they developed.
If you want backend service and etc... You might need to either pay upfront more or pay monthly basis for Firebase or server.
@@Rapidodalua2008 I understand the tech industry perfectly fine. I also understand if you are an individual offering to build a complete product for somebody, you better be able to deliver said complete product. Stop making excuses; it sounds pathetic.
Please can you differentiate between developing skills and design skills....?
I am new to app dev and i am not able to clearly distinguish between them
@@saisiddeshmamidoju1728 a designer could have used Adobe XD or Figma or some design software to design the look and feel of the app, these softwares can also make interactive prototypes that can run on a phone and behave like an actual app. The Developer translates the designs into actual code which runs on a device. Developing a robust, responsive well coded app which does not crash or is slow is not easy. You have to know code design patterns, software architecture principles, coding best practices and the framework APIs and libraries that you are using to code the app.
as a developer i need to make 2 remarks about this video. first at this price I'll be happy the app even starts because those are very low and they'll be basically working at around 10$ an hour if not less depending on their efficiency, and assuming this app takes around 10$ to finish i won't be accepting less than 500$ and that does not include the backend part. second thing, most developers suck at design so don't set your expectations too high in that part. personally i won't accept a job without a design or I'll have to charge extra to hire a designer for the job because i refuse to deliver shitty looking apps because that would reflect on the customer evaluation of my work as you can see here, or I'll have to use a UI Library that you approve before hand .
Exaclty. People just dont understand how difficult it is to build from thin air yet alone set up a database and connect it to what ever frontend you have. Smh
@@Eddy-ly2ml the rate some developer accept for whole project confused me a lot, but i get why since my monthly salary is 700$ in my country lol
@@chawkichalladia1812 true, but the thing is that is why prices are the way they are, still you shouldnt have to lower your rate / standards to satisfy people
@@Eddy-ly2ml see the thing about rate, what constitutes a good rate differs between countries. a senior developer in the US make as much as an entire web agency with a full team in my country. that's why people from poorer countries feel like it's ok to lower their rates. i basically earn 5$/h so for me 10 does not seem that bad while in the US even a high schooler might look down on it.
@@chawkichalladia1812 Exactamente eso.
I feel sorry for all the people who think they can get an app in this price range and for all the developers that'll have to deal with these people.
He DID get an app in this price range though, if developers give away their work is their fault
If you mix hosam and ali apps it will be better (hosam's interface is better)
@@crazystupidgamer And the white space is just blue, whereas Hosam's has the nice background that matches the app.
@@evanbelcher yo guys
I like the 2 column layout better
Both are shitty 😂
I very much agree, Hosam had the best looking app by far.
I would recommend a designer before going to a dev, but maybe I'm biased since I work in UX/UI
I´m a dev and completely agree with you, better to reach devs with an already established design since the mayority have a hard time with the creativity and UI part.
I thought I will be needed to know everything like ui and ux and dev ...but ur comment cleared my mind thank you
you’re not bias, that’s exactly how it should be 😂😂
@@heisenberg5873 you can be fullstack but will most likely be laking on one or more of the skills
Some devs actually do both UI design and development. (Not for that price, though, obviously.)
Software engineer here. I am having a hard time understanding how other devs can accept such low budget. knowing very well that the person hiring them will not think twice about paying that same amount for a lunch date. To each their own I guess.
People wouldn’t think twice about sending $250 on a lunch date? Where do you live?
A lot of them are financially desperate and new to the field with not much experience.
its fiverr man, 1st world exploiting 3rd world developers and designers. But this effects 1st world people too.
The average price in Europe for an experienced developer is often around 500€ per day I think. So yeah the price mentioned in this video are incredibly low. Especially that they are supposed to come up with a UX it seems.
@@jean4j_ UX and UI to be exact. And here he expect the app to have a good design and good UX. That's sad.
The factor you used to sort the devs majorly boiled down to user interface, which is unfair because you might have lost a good developer to a bad design as that's not their domain (they just applied the most generic Google's Material template). That's why as people suggested in the comments, first reach a UI/UX designer, get the design and then approach a developer to make an app with that.
But the thing here is that they are offering that in fiver, if they are promising a full app, that one has to have design, if not they have to specify that will be just the logic with a simple design
@@OscarAndresPabonEstrella Fair enough.
@@OscarAndresPabonEstrella thing is... The developers need to have a guide to deliver the expected results to the client, it doesn't need to be from a designer, although is rlly nice, just a simple sketch on a paper or other app that the client find interesting. Developers that aren't familiarized with UI/UX suck at this part.
Just so people know, the price of an app can vary considerably depending on how complex your app is. Don't expect any app you want to build to only be $200. That is only 10 hours of work at $20/hr. As an app increases in complexity the amount of work required to build, test and maintain increases dramatically.
And i do really wonder what backend they are using. If its just an AWS or Azure hosting. He did say in one of the apps, the loading times were slow. So did he leave that up to them?
I'm an Android developer, the amount of code work involved here is astonishing in that short development time.
@Med jed no doubt they've got boilerplate code for commonly used UI components, as do I.
@Med jed but thats not a bad thing , is it?
@@faisalnafees8413 nope its a good thing, components not only save time, they bring consistency to your applications... if you have a good testable component that you can pull in and it has a single responsibility without intervening on other components, it's good code and wise to implement.
@Med jed this just isn't true at all. Go use a service like flutterflow and create an app in 14 days. Now imagine the client adopts it but later wants all the buttons to have a shadow and animations. With the way these website builders and applications work, they typically generate code without splitting them into classes - you get a lot of repeated code. This kind of code is an absolute nightmare to maintain. My job is currently to push an update for an app that has been outsourced and developed in a rush meaning it takes a lot longer to add to the top of because instead of just extending classes like you would typically, you're having to manually change whitebutton34 to have the correct functionality.
This method is fast and effective. It is not at all scalable or maintainable.
@Med jed oh I see what you mean now, it's smart for them to cut these corners because of the perceived effort, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's smart to hire these people.
Amazing cinematography man! Your production quality is honestly top notch
Thanks for the Free Promotion Sam 😛
I really loved your video it amazing.
BTW I am also capable to giving full features if you can just increase the Budget 🥺😂
Love your Video Thanks
Haha Point
You nailed it Amelia 😉
Keep it up
How did you make rhe app? Can you make a tutorial pls
Your name is so good
I hate my mind tho
bruh what, $150 for an app. that's almost absurdly cheap lmao
They would have used app creation software. They didn’t programme it from scratch.
Or they re-use templates they already made for other customers
@@enriquellerena4779 or they reuse tamplates and their code
@@jumpergamer1913 are u a dev , how can templates be reused if every client has completely different requirements ?
@@jazzbeat4443 lots of apps have similar features, nav bar, favorites, search bar, icons, etc, edits, deletes, user auth, so the core is the same u just tweak it based on clients/app needs
even though the design and quality of this app are poor but still these prices are very low, they should be at a minimum $500, i am working a mobile app now its kinda e-commerce and i am doing it for $7k no cap
can you build app for me. i have idea
I want to see part 2 of this. New developers, new designs... I really enjoyed this kind of videos
For such low prices, you should expect the default styling that you get out of the box with these development frameworks. It's sooooo much extra work to customize the look and feel of UI elements to match some design.
Good video. Like the idea for the app. As a developer, I give you props for featuring the devs and sending some potential clients their way
Many gardeners use this concept to keep those plants upright and strong and for good reason. This is one of the easiest trellises to build and it’s a really strong one that won’t cave to the weight of your plants.
Hosam's app is the best, showing 2 screenshots per line is better use of screen space and overall solid design too
Hosams was easily the best out of all of these, best designed, and high functionality.
Man, simplicity is everything. Because people are more intuitive first time going to the app. I likes the last one the best
Hosam's interface looked cleaner than the rest but Ali did a great job
if you want a better interface get a Ui/Ux designer, developers are bad at designing interfaces 💪
When you're an developer and know that most things separating all apps but the first is some layout stuff. Sam Beckman you can actually edit any of those 4 apps to looks like identical to the one you like in less then an hour. It's the code behind them that matters most. AND ... making sure it runs (tests)
As a flutter dev, I clicked fast on the notification
Same here😅
What you think which platform is way better for app development flutter or Adobe XD ?
As a designer, going for an app dev without a UI design is a strong move, they will just rely on previous memorized best practices or sometimes the predefined UI of the framework, so it is for sure a compromising challenge even when going cheaper splitting this budget between and UX/UI designer and a dev can result on something relatively better. Also the dev will have a better environment if you tell him "make me literally that please" hence the price can go lower due to clarity. The outcome they did is beautiful for the price but for sure lacking major UX principles since they certainly relied on libraries. I enjoyed the video just wanted to share my thoughts.
As an android developer, I'm blown away how little these developers are charging.
Sometimes it depends where they are from. If the developer is from a third world country like Africa for example, then that is good money to them when exchanged to their currency since their currency is weaker.
@@mizile1486 ah since when did Africa become a country? If you don’t even know this how are you talking about currency’s and programming
@@mizile1486 this is the problem blaming Europeans for everything we were always divided Africa is huge we were never one all of us look different from each other
@@teklemic1898 ok bro, Africa is a country
@@teklemic1898 It's not currency's but currencies if you don't even know this how are you even writing 😂
Honestly, every developer (aside from the first), really shocked me with how well they did.
I am sure many of us here are app developers ourselves. I would never develop an app for so cheap, I just find my time far more valuable than $200 to create these
That's the problem with platforms like Fivrr is that the developers cheapen themselves to be competitive.
I also wonder how they will keep up their backend side. where do they save the data?!
the first guy was one of those guys that you could never help improve their work because they already felt like they were boss at it.
My guy literally has chrome pinned on the taskbar but still searched for it.
For the people who is wondering why these prices are low af. Those are pretty much templates which flutter provides and not much functionality. If a real developer working on it we would charge atleat 15$ per hour and would take a month to complete. 160×15$ = 2400$.
Basically his app doesn't mean shit even hiring a 3rd world country developer.
But a month has an average of 730 hours
Such a phenomenal video, so entertaining to watch, always informative with clarity, excellent content Sam!
Do you realize how incredibly low these prices are? I mean this is exploitation of developers. As a developer myself I don’t really like watching people with no understanding of development reviewing apps under $10k. Like come on, $200???
Agreed, creates a race to the bottom
Lol why pay 10k when you can pay $200? 🤣🤣 I went on fiver for a logo design. Cost me a fraction of the price I was quoted by a company and it looked perfect. Also this is a good way to get a prototype and to show to investors without potential wasting 10k? Not everyone has 10k to throw at an app so he's showing other options. Also it's hardly exploitation when they're literally setting their own price. Too many people are moving into tech jobs. Makes the market a whole lot cheaper. You want to make 10k for an easy job...go pick up a hammer as no one else wants to do that anymore. 😂 Exploitation 😂
@@trade2133 if you don't have 10k for a application or a logo which is potentially gonna bring millions of dollars to your business and create a unique brand identity in the ever growing market good luck surviving here because I am not an idiot who will work at the same level of dedicated for a 200$ app or logo in comparison to a 10k$ app
Not to mention the no of ways I can screw you over when I feel that you cheated me ,And yea I am a developer and I talk from experience
@@aranyaprakash5537 you need to calm down with those prices. Not everyone has the money you're talking about bro
@@Ebi.Adonkie sorry bro If you don't have the required capital just don't do it why are you wasting small chunks of money for something that has a very less chance to give you the results you want , it's like investing 100$ and expecting millions of dollars in return 😅
First of your videos I watched and I totally loved it. It's a great inspiration for software engineers (like me). It's valuable to understand the interaction of customers with prototypes. One of the most important aspects of today's software engineering is the ability to build any software system in collaboration with a customer. You show here in a very effective way what a MVP (Minimum Viable Product) should be.
As a developer, I really love tht the way this review was done... Gives me more hints on how clients Love animations lol
This video made me think if I should outsource pieces of my own software development onto Fiver. I myself develop software but for those prices I'd build much faster if I just outsource.
U can make app
Love that your videos fits perfect in my ultrawide, thanks.
Poor Syed did'nt know, that this order was from a youtuber with 200K + subs😅😅
Not like it matters to him. He wasn’t even given a 1 star rating.. When you go to his page you can see all of his reviews are from the same users, so he’s probably just buying them.
Really fascinating!
As an android developer + True picks Developer, I see that all the Dev's have simply copied Truepicks & Proscreen app + the UI/UX is so poor like what the hell, the icons on the menu, the elevation on cards are 😵. Also between 150-250 bucks, this was expected.
Working on it for only 20 days now along with my job. It is in the prototype phase but hopefully! once it is done the app will be much more polished.
@@alilaldin5547 haha lol
@@kasemsm8092 😅
I saw that too... Could've been made better with a more unique UI and the UX is quite bad
@@alilaldin5547 Quick question Ali, the data is stored in the device's local/async storage, right?
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11:08 This app was the best.
As a software engineer it literally hurts me to watch how much these devs got paid
I preferred Hosam app layout more actually...looking forward wegen the app goes live...thanks for the very nice video
The development prices are very low price because most of the freelancers can't get a job without 5 stars in their profiles. That's why most of them have to lower prices unfortunately.
Second thing, UI/UX is different thing, developing an app is different. If you don't have a design, I'm sorry you don't know what you are looking for that app! People don't expect a beautiful modern look design from a developer. UI/UX is different aspect!
Another thing is how can you compare apps with different prices?
This is maybe the best sponsored video I’ve ever watched, well done
Bruh seriously..I mean really you made that app..aur you were thinking it's just prototype so I'll just send a sample of layout?😅
Who are you talking to? I made nth
@@ujjawal.pandey Why are you assuming he made it? Just because he shares the same name smh
Gunna be a great app when it comes!
Good luck with it!
What I need are these Apps:
1. An App who tracks my music
2. An App who tracks Games & Mobile Games
3. An App to download all common social media (with autosave & Fast Download ) without ads
great video! loved how you showed us the process. can i check, how do you then get the app further developed? or is this the final version of the application? do you need to send it to another development team to develop the app?
Awesome video mate!
I wonder how much time it actually cost them to build the app, considering average dev making 600 dollars a day, they would have made 4 apps in a day to make it up, which seems impossible.
The average dev does not make $600 a day lol. Try half of that.
@@KeegansLife depends which country, company and project you are working on
@@Matrixprogrammmer Thats why I said AVERAGE. The AVERAGE dev does not make anywhere near that.
@@KeegansLife that half money you said earned by average indian engineer per month
Unique content man ! Niceee
Hey, Sam. I've watched this video several times. This time around, I want to know if you are willing to share the overall app description you share with those five developers-removing any proprietary content, of course?
me to.
of course you'll choose ALI, he is the one with the highest price tag which indicates that this is what we should look for when picking a gig on fiverr "your sponsor" ( who makes more money taking their cut).
Your video quality and montage is super nice
You were expected to hire a UI/UX designer then present the prototype to the developers because many developer aren't good in UI/UX design. Some developers are so good in back-end but sucks when it comes to UI designing. So I think the way you judge them wasn't the right way. Then the pricing shocked me.Too low and the time they take to finish their project. That kind of a App should take at most 4 hours for at least $300
By default, the design phase should be done by the UX/UI designer. Not by the dev.
It would be better if there are two columns of home screens on the screen instead of just one IMO
No lie, I honestly like Hosam's app more!
are there ongoing costs involved with these apps ? such as cloud data storage ?
It would be better if you can do the first impression without knowing the price. Also better if these are the final versions.
IMO.
Great video BTW.
I LOVE this video!!! Thank you.
That's cool!
But just curious if there is any disclosure agreement to protect your idea not to be used by the developers that you are hiring.
Can we have those wallys u feature today on your sam set up? They look good and clean man, and you are tlo notch on those edits and cinematography damn
I kinda feel bad for Syed. Hosam's is my favorite in terms of design, Ali for Functionality.
pays 80 bucks for an app and is surprised about its quality of implementation.
I really really enjoyed watching this.. putting myself in the developers position
What I don't get is who pays for the servers to host the backend and database? If it is a free option, expect 0 scalability.
Also, these prices are too low, I would expect a lot of shortcomings.
Are they maybe using firebase free tier Apis? It's a real quick spin up for a service with at least three or four endpoints. Definitely not scaleable. I need to know more...
@@joshthemighty7700 Buy the source code and set up everything up yourself. Then upload the source code to a private repository on Github.
I’m looking for information on how to build an app Where creators can design editable templates for customers to purchase and edit
Any advice? For example like templett
Cool video and apps, next, you should invest in good UI and UX for the app
This was an interesting experiment. I'd be interested to know how the two apps talk to each / store their back end data. Anyone have any idea?
I am glad that I seen this video, because I can not live on $200 for two weeks of work, but than again, I live in America. I guess that is what is driving most people out of the field, not enough to live on. The people that find cheapest developer from outside the country, puts everyone at risk for security issue and intrusion concern.
I have so many questions. As someone starting her first journey developing an app, my experience has been very different. My first question is, when you are looking for an app developer, I am assuming you have already completed the design process? I had a different journey. I created a rough draft on Adobe XD and hired a designer to refine the design and fill in any missing screens. I then shared the design files from Figma with the developers, and they quoted me at USD 13K, broken down into milestones. This process goes on for the website design and development, hiring a lawyer etc. So my question is, how is your pricing so different than mine? So far, I have invested a significant amount of my own money, started the process in Jan 2021, with the projected launch date in June 2022. 'One week for $200' is a considerable gap, so I am curious.
My guess is you are looking for a fully fledged app with endless rewrites. He probably advertised for a prototype only at a fixed rate. Now that he has selected the developer it is likely they would negotiate a much higher price for a fully fledged developer. As he mentioned a lot of features were missing and the app wouldn't have been built to scale and maybe didn't even have a fully working back end.
You did it much more safe. He has a back-end and no security. people's data but no GDPR. 5 different apps that all look exactly the same, because his "developers" aren't developing jack, just pasting something they found on Canyon. The MOMENT he wanted something custom they'd freak out and wonder what to do b/c none of them can really make things, except maybe Ali who didn't really dev anything, but he definitely expanded.
A typical app takes MONTHS to make. How did you feel about the user typing in 5 URL's? NOBODY DOES THAT. He didn't think about how useful his app really is or better things.
I've made apps for 11 years at various enterprises and startups. There's a reason you pay more. 13k isn't very bad, especially if you get more than a month's worth of work. He made a few mistakes as a designer, and A LOT of mistakes from a developers viewpoint.
5 bucks says if he shoved his Android app through a profiler he'd have more memory leaks than a cat will have of leftover food in their bowl when they get their less-favorable brand.
Edit: I'm used to design processes that range from full Software analysis to redlines to agile game development. Though I tend to write prototypes faster in iOS than I can make in Figma, so I just make a live version as a demo, with minimal logic under the hood, b/c it's faster that way.
Now I need to lecture him so that others coming across the video don't get bad idea.
@@feitingschatten1 thank you for that response. That makes so much more sense.
I'm really curious, did they create a backend (e.g. restful api) and database for these apps ?
Firebase free cota can handle the job easily, but I think that he don't use external services saving locally the user data.
I cam for how to create a google app for school and found a youtube channel gem.
Thank you, great video!
Insane pricing, consulting companies would have charged way more for the same basic work. I mean a thousand times more.
Another question??
What and How do you launch it on the Google Play App Store, and Apple App Store??
2021:sam taking about creating a app
2030:sam taking about creating an own custom rom
You mean like an android competitor? Or just a aosp based rom or port roms which are so much easier than making an app
Hey brother thanks for the video!
what is the ratio size for this video to get the wide screen aesthetic?
Hey sam which launcher is you using. I am using nova prime purchased from Play Store. I had 1 issue with launcher. App opening animations are good but. App closing animation not work good.
Great video Sam! Does anyone know the name of the wallpaper Sam used for the "Sam's Home Screen" setup?
Great video! thanks for the plug
Hey there, nice videos! Which database did they use?
App development is actually pretty easy you just need android studio and google thats how i built my app while also learning java because of it anf im only 15!
Hey i have a random question. What kind of laptop do you recommand? Apple or windows(especially rayzer)
That's such a thick accent!
I can't get over it especially when he says "Nice"
I don't think it is a very bad thing that the app doesn't automatically update when you approve a new post. That's because I don't see so much benefit for the user in this functionality. In my opinion, it's only useful for you, the owner of the app. For the user, most of the time will be just a resource consumer.
Sams the kinda guy who has chrome pinned to the taskbar but searches for it in windows search
A developer is not a graphic designer or a UI / UX designer, he is at least a programmer
i'm only midway through the video but i need to leave a comment, this is so exciting to watch 😁😁😁 that's a really great idea for an app.
Awesome experiment.
Nice video as always , sam ..
Emilia was like "Take it and go"
Love ali's app setup
Notification Gang
what phone do you use ? Oneplus 8T ?
Just realistic you shoot in widescreen 😍
Nice man😊
Will this app ever come out?