OK but fiver sponsored you so of course it would be within your best interest for this experiment to succeed. Also, the funny part is that she probably used ChatGPT to make that copyright
Wow, so this is how professionals work? It's amazing, I learn so much by pausing the video and read the code. I also note your suggestions about how you would do some stuffs like the a helper file to separate the logic from the actual component, etc. Appreciate the video and I hope that you bring more contents like that.
Awesome video, just goes to show what you can get done if you hire the right people, you don't have to be able to do everything yourself to create a great product
What do you search on fiver? Back end developer? Front end developer? And how do you know if someone has the right credentials to perform the task you are asking if you dont understand coding? Im only asking this question as im currently working with a developer who clearly cant do what he told me he could.
@@westbrook0853 i gave him an example of a website that has similar features and lay out to what i needed built and he said he could do it. To be fair though, he has done a decent job now, it just took him 2 months longer then expected and a whole lot of trial and error.
Well I don't want to say it but those prices are very low and only offered by indian devs which makes it impossible to get a job on fiverr as an american/european. Not to mention the beginner level of those codebases, that's the harsh truth.
Trust me I rather hire European than any Indian developer, many tells you a thing and end up they can’t do it anyway, it’s too complicated. I’ve moved to upwork cuz fiver suck
Thanks a lot Conner for this amazing video . As a junior full-stack developer, my task now is to rely on this video and build this application from scratch. Let's do it! 😇
Yeah nah, every single developer I ask hits me with 'What’s your budget?' Like bruu, what’s the point of listing prices and packages if you’re just gonna ignore them? 😂
What did you do when you work at Facebook as an intern not a full-time? Also, do facebook(Meta) take another tech interview for an intern to join full-time?
Interns do basically the same work as full time developers, just with less scope and the work is a bit more pre-defined for them. In one internship, I added a feature to marketplace for researching cars. In the other, I worked on an internal tool related to source control. Facebook doesn't reinterview you after the internship. The internship is essentially a long full-time interview. Some companies do though. For example, I actually turned down a Google internship partially because I didn't want to have to interview for a full-time job after (although I have heard some people say these "conversion" interviews are a bit of a formality, not sure if that's true though).
@@xtu373 It's long gone now. But at the time if you went to a car listing on marketplace, there would be a learn more button. That would bring you to a page with a bunch of information about that car (mpg, msrp, drivetrain, etc.), reviews, Q&A, photos, etc.
Hey, sorry you're having trouble with that! I checked with Fiverr and it should be active. Make sure it's all caps and spelled "ER" not "OR". Also, it only works for first time purchases, I'll update the description to make that more clear. Let me know if it still doesn't work for you though and I'll follow up with the team at Fiverr again 👍
It will be harder when the logic become harder. But from the beginning and the purpose of this project, it's quite simple. Fact: Backend usually get paid more than Fronted.
Would be interesting to know how long it took the creators. Especially the frontend ... I'm imagining these workers are making $5-10 per hour. Seems pretty exploitative.
Yeah I'd be interested to know too. But to your point, it is not exploitative. The sellers set their own prices and can decline work. Most of them just tend to live in countries where the cost of living is much lower than the US. I also don't think any of them ended up with wages that low. For example, the frontend was likely the most amount of work by a good margin. If I had to implement that frontend, given that the design is already done, it would probably take me ~5 hours if I had to guess. Even if it took him 3 times that long, it would still be $300 for 15 hours, which is $20 per hour. After Fiverr's fees, that comes out to $16 per hour. Another way to look at it is that the seller earned $240 after Fiverr's fees. At absolute max he worked on it for an entire week, but I am 99% sure that's not the case given how many reviews he has for how long he has been on the site (he clearly is averaging at least a few per week, maybe way more depending on the review rate). Glassdoor says the average monthly salary for software engineers in Pakistan, where he is from, is PKR 240,000. That's roughly $800 USD per month. So even just doing 4 of these gigs per month at one per week would result in making an above average income for software engineers in the country.
@@ConnerArdmanThat's interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about that either. The idea of paying someone significantly less than what the work is worth simply because of the country they reside in just seems icky. I know that's "how it works" but still just feels unfair to the folks doing the work. But totally agree that they set their prices and aren't required to do any of the work. To the point of your video... the work you got for
I'm remote dev from East Africa so I know about this all too well... It is not exploitative because western currencies have unbelievable value here, so we are extremely glad to get opportunities that could possibly make you a millionaire (in our currency). Given that we can be very satisfied with the kind of payment you can't find here typically, well gladly accept such opportunities. And the of course, they know this and they will seize on their opportunity to acquire higher profit margins without sacrificing product/service quality. It's a consensual, win-win relationship.
How is that icky? The money where they live goes waaaay farther than in the USA. A USA person cannot charge as little as them because that amount of money doesn't go as far compared to where they live. So maybe the magnitude of money is more, but the actual amount it affects ur life should be proportionate. They also could charge more if they wanted to, they are the ones setting the price. But guess what, people who live in low cost of living areas are going to naturally set lower prices because value scales with COL. It also isn't like they are making $5-10/hr. $20+/hr (especially doing something u like to do) is very good for a non-expert and side gig. Most people have to work shitty ass jobs to get paid that much. @@inDefEE
OK but fiver sponsored you so of course it would be within your best interest for this experiment to succeed. Also, the funny part is that she probably used ChatGPT to make that copyright
I didn't think about that
Honestly that text looks too "lean" to be written by an ai.
Definitely doesn't read like AI, if they used it then definitely turned it into a non-AI style.
honestly u can put in your own key words and priniciple on writting to make the results more realistic
@@qwertykeyboard5901
Wow, so this is how professionals work? It's amazing, I learn so much by pausing the video and read the code. I also note your suggestions about how you would do some stuffs like the a helper file to separate the logic from the actual component, etc. Appreciate the video and I hope that you bring more contents like that.
I just found your channel and am loving your content. Thanks for sharing!
Hey I’m trying to build an app can you help me identify a team in Fiverr ?
Frontend guy did a great job
Awesome video, just goes to show what you can get done if you hire the right people, you don't have to be able to do everything yourself to create a great product
What do you search on fiver? Back end developer? Front end developer? And how do you know if someone has the right credentials to perform the task you are asking if you dont understand coding? Im only asking this question as im currently working with a developer who clearly cant do what he told me he could.
What did he claim to be able to do lol
@@westbrook0853 i gave him an example of a website that has similar features and lay out to what i needed built and he said he could do it.
To be fair though, he has done a decent job now, it just took him 2 months longer then expected and a whole lot of trial and error.
A Dev team is not hired, it’s built. You could get to build something, but would it scale?
Why backend developer mix await and then in operations?
Is this actually a valid approach to building a SaaS? For a first-timer context too?
This is awesome. Thanks for sharing.
Well I don't want to say it but those prices are very low and only offered by indian devs which makes it impossible to get a job on fiverr as an american/european.
Not to mention the beginner level of those codebases, that's the harsh truth.
yaa 😅 I'm indian too...they charges very low....
Trust me I rather hire European than any Indian developer, many tells you a thing and end up they can’t do it anyway, it’s too complicated. I’ve moved to upwork cuz fiver suck
@@neovo071 Agreed! Fiver is not cool as Upwork. There are so many thing missing from there. Even when i'm a SE freelancer.
Thank you for this info. What type of information do i need to provide about my web app in order for them to do the work?
Thanks a lot Conner for this amazing video .
As a junior full-stack developer, my task now is to rely on this video and build this application from scratch. Let's do it! 😇
Love that idea, good luck!
Yeah nah, every single developer I ask hits me with 'What’s your budget?' Like bruu, what’s the point of listing prices and packages if you’re just gonna ignore them? 😂
Front-end guy did a great Job!
Conner, thanks for this video!
Is there a link to the finished product?
Nah, it’s kind of expensive to run and was meant to just be an experiment 🤷♂️
@@ConnerArdmanwhat are the costs someone should consider when pursuing this?
What did you do when you work at Facebook as an intern not a full-time? Also, do facebook(Meta) take another tech interview for an intern to join full-time?
Interns do basically the same work as full time developers, just with less scope and the work is a bit more pre-defined for them. In one internship, I added a feature to marketplace for researching cars. In the other, I worked on an internal tool related to source control.
Facebook doesn't reinterview you after the internship. The internship is essentially a long full-time interview. Some companies do though. For example, I actually turned down a Google internship partially because I didn't want to have to interview for a full-time job after (although I have heard some people say these "conversion" interviews are a bit of a formality, not sure if that's true though).
@@ConnerArdman How that feature works? For researching cars
@@xtu373 It's long gone now. But at the time if you went to a car listing on marketplace, there would be a learn more button. That would bring you to a page with a bunch of information about that car (mpg, msrp, drivetrain, etc.), reviews, Q&A, photos, etc.
Great video 👍👍👍
Thank you!
Bro comes back after changing his shirt and says it's been a week :>
Please don't mind me haha. I would probably do the same.
I searched their names. There not appearing on fiverr
They’re all linked in the description 👍
@@ConnerArdman thanks
Thank you so much
Can you share a backend source code?
Discount code is not working
Hey, sorry you're having trouble with that! I checked with Fiverr and it should be active. Make sure it's all caps and spelled "ER" not "OR". Also, it only works for first time purchases, I'll update the description to make that more clear. Let me know if it still doesn't work for you though and I'll follow up with the team at Fiverr again 👍
I should study backend. It looks easy compared to frontend 😂😂.
It will be harder when the logic become harder. But from the beginning and the purpose of this project, it's quite simple.
Fact: Backend usually get paid more than Fronted.
Would be interesting to know how long it took the creators. Especially the frontend ... I'm imagining these workers are making $5-10 per hour. Seems pretty exploitative.
Yeah I'd be interested to know too. But to your point, it is not exploitative. The sellers set their own prices and can decline work. Most of them just tend to live in countries where the cost of living is much lower than the US.
I also don't think any of them ended up with wages that low. For example, the frontend was likely the most amount of work by a good margin. If I had to implement that frontend, given that the design is already done, it would probably take me ~5 hours if I had to guess. Even if it took him 3 times that long, it would still be $300 for 15 hours, which is $20 per hour. After Fiverr's fees, that comes out to $16 per hour.
Another way to look at it is that the seller earned $240 after Fiverr's fees. At absolute max he worked on it for an entire week, but I am 99% sure that's not the case given how many reviews he has for how long he has been on the site (he clearly is averaging at least a few per week, maybe way more depending on the review rate). Glassdoor says the average monthly salary for software engineers in Pakistan, where he is from, is PKR 240,000. That's roughly $800 USD per month. So even just doing 4 of these gigs per month at one per week would result in making an above average income for software engineers in the country.
@@ConnerArdmanThat's interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about that either.
The idea of paying someone significantly less than what the work is worth simply because of the country they reside in just seems icky. I know that's "how it works" but still just feels unfair to the folks doing the work.
But totally agree that they set their prices and aren't required to do any of the work.
To the point of your video... the work you got for
I'm remote dev from East Africa so I know about this all too well... It is not exploitative because western currencies have unbelievable value here, so we are extremely glad to get opportunities that could possibly make you a millionaire (in our currency). Given that we can be very satisfied with the kind of payment you can't find here typically, well gladly accept such opportunities.
And the of course, they know this and they will seize on their opportunity to acquire higher profit margins without sacrificing product/service quality. It's a consensual, win-win relationship.
Broke people work for cheap. It's a thing.
How is that icky? The money where they live goes waaaay farther than in the USA. A USA person cannot charge as little as them because that amount of money doesn't go as far compared to where they live. So maybe the magnitude of money is more, but the actual amount it affects ur life should be proportionate. They also could charge more if they wanted to, they are the ones setting the price. But guess what, people who live in low cost of living areas are going to naturally set lower prices because value scales with COL. It also isn't like they are making $5-10/hr. $20+/hr (especially doing something u like to do) is very good for a non-expert and side gig. Most people have to work shitty ass jobs to get paid that much. @@inDefEE
Anybody else here who has been able to create an app on Fiverr with less than $500? I'm curious
Can we have source code of this?
Am I the only one seeing Fiverr tags everywhere all over his face? LOL
You havent touched your pillows for 4 days!@
It's been a lot longer than that lol, probably a few months if you go back through my old videos. I literally never sit on that couch.
@@ConnerArdman damn, btw i enjoyed the video :)
You have to sit there today!
Thanks! And maybe... but it is _really_ uncomfortable 😂
Interesting
Front end man should have got paid more.
mmmm
W name spelling 🤝
Copyright girl just used chatgpt and made 150 bucks
Nah I tested it against a bunch of AI checkers, they all said 100% human written 👌
🤣🤣 lol