Who Wrote the Bible? The Documentary Hypothesis

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  • @joecaner
    @joecaner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    It is refreshing to hear a self-identifying Christian delivering a cogent lecture on the origins of scripture instead of engaging in dubious logical apologetics in an attempt to justify their belief in Biblical inerrancy.

    • @Arthurian_Rabbit
      @Arthurian_Rabbit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Tell me about it, as sumbunny who was raised in the southern United States I almost experienced shock induced head-explodey after discovering this channel.
      Even the "nicest" Christians out there practiced shunning techniques on me. No need to mention what the regulars did, most of us already know that experience.
      If more Christians behaved like this there sure would be a lot less angry, resentful atheists in the world.

    • @balsarmy
      @balsarmy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well why not? Books are books. I think someone can consider themselves as religious not because he is dogmatic, but because some elements of religion are appealing for him

    • @Arthurian_Rabbit
      @Arthurian_Rabbit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@balsarmy Because a vast majority of Christians in the southern United States are loud, oppressive and obnoxious?
      If you've not lost your job because of, or been harassed by evangelicals or fundamentalists, then lucky you.
      Believing in the literalism of the Christian religion tends to lead towards toxic behavior.
      Scholarly folk who happen to like the Abrahamic faiths and enjoy/recognize the allegories in them are not common.

    • @yohei72
      @yohei72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Arthurian_Rabbit "Scholarly folk who happen to like the Abrahamic faiths and enjoy/recognize the allegories in them are not common."
      This isn't true at all, in my observation. I think people like this are pretty common, but the shrieking fundamentalists just make a lot more noise, by their nature.

    • @Dethfeast
      @Dethfeast ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes, those of us who grew up in the "land of Biblical Inerrancy" (The American South) grew up with a lot of nonsense that the scholarly interpretation doesn't need. Trying to say the Bible is inerrant, but then watching someone dance around the many, many inconsistencies and contradictions was always fairly ridiculous.

  • @saquist
    @saquist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a former Jehovah"s Witness this was a hugely enlightening lecture! Ive read yhe bible 3x in english, once in Spanish and ive read the Greek Interlinear Translation.
    This shows how much goes over your head when you're reading and not actually analyzing. Horeb vs Saini; Raul vs Jethro; the differences in the 10 commandments; Learning El, Elohim and YahWeh don't all represent the name of God, nor were the regering to the same God in the beginning or that Elohim is Gods plural!
    There was so much we thought we knew that we didn't remotely understand which i now realize is common trait of that religion.
    Excellent work. (No offense to J.Ws)

  • @assyriannahrin
    @assyriannahrin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I really really like this. I've watched alot of videos about documentary hypothesis,but unlike this one. You go through everything giving examples of and pointing to the difference in the verses. Much like and subed

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      When you are a Godless and a Souless idiot that thinks she will be nothing you get attached by those godless theory...

    • @WhiteDove73-888
      @WhiteDove73-888 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You like this but it’s 100 false. 😂😅

    • @thechazz3230
      @thechazz3230 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WhiteDove73-888 no no it's not. Stop larping

    • @kenwarden1864
      @kenwarden1864 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      False, false, unbelievable, unreal.... go on?

  • @danu6718
    @danu6718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Amazing lectures. I just stumbled on this channel recently and I love it.

    • @tonydimera282
      @tonydimera282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      nice fantasy

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonydimera282 And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right??? .

  • @mblack3450
    @mblack3450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Like a supreme being, creator of the universe, is concerned about killing his creations as a sacrifice to appease him and they smelled good. Just bizarre these stories and people believe them as fact

    • @cristianm7097
      @cristianm7097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Antropomorphized

    • @dewayneweaver5782
      @dewayneweaver5782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And Geek mythology is so logical. With the king of the gods having sex with every thing that walks.

    • @12SPASTIC12
      @12SPASTIC12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dewayneweaver5782 Wouldn't you if you could?

    • @xianseah4847
      @xianseah4847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats how to create more Gods that happen to be mostly humanoids.

    • @dewayneweaver5782
      @dewayneweaver5782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Mephisto von Döbelstein When God writes a story, it becomes reality, because he's God he doesn't need to stretch the truth, because he is the truth.

  • @PatrickPease
    @PatrickPease ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know I can't expect you to know everything, but Jesus, as a rabbi, was absolutely quoting Torah when he said "Love your neighbor as yourself"

    • @TorianTammas
      @TorianTammas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Funny that people forget he was a jew.

    • @darkeen42
      @darkeen42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They Don't really forget the later gospels of the Bible try very very hard to make him not a Jew​@@TorianTammas

  • @notyourbusiness2687
    @notyourbusiness2687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    6:17- Noah's & animals ( 2 or7)
    14:25- moses commandments
    15:19- mount horeb or Sinai?
    16:02- moses father in law
    17:44- 10 commandments
    31:20- timeline
    34:00- how do people calculate this timeline?
    35:00- manuscript?
    38:47- redaction etc (rewind a bit)
    42:36- how do we know about these redactions? What do we have for evidence?
    43:50- Deuteronomical history vs chronicles 44:37
    46:50- same story told twice/more
    47:19- moses striking rock
    49:16- one way to identify pink author (Aaron always present)
    50:48- she's my sister (3 times)
    53:38- early redactor who combined j&e
    54:25- different sources
    56:40- p source
    58:33- ywhw vs elohim
    1:01:02- I am who I am (pun on Yahweh?)
    1:01:47- j perspective
    1:04:19- e perspective
    1:08:02- p perspective
    1:13:01- d perspective
    1:15:20- doc hyp
    1:17:08- why this hypothesis is being doubted.
    1:17:52- variations in d source
    1:21:52- flood story in mythology
    1:23:20 - recap
    1:24:13- chronology of near ancient east (timeline)
    1:26:20- variation of language in different voices
    1:26-49- after exile speaking in aramaic
    1:31:36- redaction in job
    1:34:00- how this research field began & how it is today
    1:36:53- Noah story diff authors (j&p)
    1:31:21- FLAT EARTH
    1:41:26- origin of fundamentalism
    1:46:36- alternative theory

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???

    • @notanemoprog
      @notanemoprog ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow thanks for your effort!

    • @hmelonify
      @hmelonify ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome help to go back and revise this. TY

    • @klumpytheklown3798
      @klumpytheklown3798 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your effort is greatly appreciated. You are a god among men. Thank you! 🙏

  • @longcastle4863
    @longcastle4863 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    There seems to have been a period in ancient history, where trickiness, even deceit, was valued as a useful human trait

  • @kristJ25
    @kristJ25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like watching this guy because its peaceful.

  • @stone18jo
    @stone18jo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im an atheist but enjoy your lectures. Very well structured. Thank you

    • @thoughtful1233
      @thoughtful1233 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why the "but"? I'm an atheist and until I heard him say otherwise I assumed John Hamer was too.

  • @rupertkempley2933
    @rupertkempley2933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Assumed this was Harvard or somewhere like it, great stuff, bright kids in audience, v grateful for this quality whilst I work

  • @latetotheparty4785
    @latetotheparty4785 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But clean/unclean is Mosaic Law, hundreds if not thousands of years after Noah.

  • @mikekaatman3194
    @mikekaatman3194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Some guys who figured out early that most people are sheep...and can be taking advantage off...those wrote the bible.

    • @BlacksmithTWD
      @BlacksmithTWD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That would be denying any oral tradition preceiding scripture. Got a logical argument for that or are you merely expressing your tenets of faith?

    • @dabouras
      @dabouras 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are other written sources on clay tablets.

    • @BlacksmithTWD
      @BlacksmithTWD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dabouras I'm aware of that, thank you. I just don't see how it strengthens or diminishes my point.

    • @Joh2n
      @Joh2n 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Did you mean that the apostles wrote the Bible to take advantage of people? LO------' Most of them died a horrible martyrs death to bring the truth to us.

    • @brahmburgers
      @brahmburgers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Bible is chock full with Metaphysics. New e-book scrutinizes the New Testament. Its title: 'Candy Coated Jesus.'

  • @buymybooks437
    @buymybooks437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm addicted to this channel

  • @randyg.7940
    @randyg.7940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This was really good. Couldn't stop watching till end

    • @TheScotsalan
      @TheScotsalan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I watched 15 mins.. and no answer to my question about if a penguin is clean or unclean 😀. But I have bookmarked it.. will watch in segments 👍

    • @randyg.7940
      @randyg.7940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheScotsalan just have KFC 🍗

    • @littlebucks912
      @littlebucks912 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheScotsalan they taste like furry chicken.

  • @NecroLiquor.
    @NecroLiquor. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As a theological student and having an eclectic study history, this is a truly great lecture. Good visuals, superb presence and remarkable approach.
    Thank you for the upload! (A few years after…)

    • @donominame8859
      @donominame8859 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out The Cosmic Skeptic. If you haven't already....

    • @HOWBAZARY
      @HOWBAZARY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must be failing in school. If you think this guy is telling you the truth your brutish. Stop being so lazy.

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donominame8859 And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donominame8859 ye another Godless and Souless westenr idiot that thinks God cares what he think to exist... 😂😂😂

  • @Arthurian_Rabbit
    @Arthurian_Rabbit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I'm agnostic, but really interested in scholarly research into religion and mythology, so I enjoyed the heck out of this.
    Definitely subscribing and looking forward to more content!

    • @fibber2u
      @fibber2u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Are you a believer or a nonbeliever? There is no middle ground. An agnostic can be either. Intelligent believers and atheists are agnostics (in my opinion) the rest are fundamentalists and they include the fanatics.

    • @Arthurian_Rabbit
      @Arthurian_Rabbit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@fibber2u I think with most things there's a spectrum for agnosticism, and I don't think it unlikely for there to be folk around the middle. As for myself, I'm not entirely sure how to answer where I lie on the scale, as it's fairly complicated and would take a lot more delving than your average YT comment.
      Lets just say that I maintain a healthy attitude of: "I just don't know!"
      I enjoy theorizing, and I certainly want to believe in something beyond just a physical reality with nothing else to it, so there's that.
      HBU?

    • @pjmurphy920
      @pjmurphy920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Arthurian_Rabbit Watch Dr. Raymond Moody who has done thousands of interviews with NDE (near death experience) people. Also, have
      you never known of anyone who saw a loved one who had transitioned or heard them or any other kind of connection? Our souls are energy and energy always has been, always will be and cannot be destroyed.

    • @nothingineternityterms
      @nothingineternityterms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@pjmurphy920 The mind plays tricks.

    • @jupitermoongauge4055
      @jupitermoongauge4055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fibber2u the definition of atheism is merely the lack of belief in a deity. No agnosticism is necessary. Given the utter ridiculousness of the description of the god of the bible for example, it is easy to have no belief in it. The same goes for every other "god" I've ever heard of, so I am an atheist.

  • @Slapsista
    @Slapsista 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Completely engrossing. Thank you.

  • @Geospasmic
    @Geospasmic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I've always been so amazed at that "say you're my sister" story being repeated three times, twice with the same king involved. I wonder if Abimelech was like, "Hey, did your father come through here about twenty years ago? I knew it! He pulled the same trick! What's wrong with your family??"

    • @tehray3094
      @tehray3094 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed!

  • @rhlopez2694
    @rhlopez2694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It all started with the summerians.

    • @michaelwalker3935
      @michaelwalker3935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sumerians

    • @RockandrollNegro
      @RockandrollNegro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm a summerian. I frolic about in summer and worship misspelling.

    • @rhlopez2694
      @rhlopez2694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RockandrollNegro that would make me a springfaller, because I frolic between seasons and my spelling is suffering in my many seasons.

  • @mrlume9475
    @mrlume9475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very good lecture, interesting from start to finish.

  • @undercoverbrother67
    @undercoverbrother67 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like your style. Subbed.

  • @tedgrant2
    @tedgrant2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Love thy neighbough" first appears in Leviticus 19:18
    The next time it appears is in Matthew 5:43...
    "Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbough and hate thine enemy..."
    Jesus is recalling the earlier commandment(s) before making up a new one !

    • @kathyh.648
      @kathyh.648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually hate is condemned long before Moses: when Cain wroth against Able and than hated him, as in the context of Deut 19:11 explained….
      God condemned even being wroth. So this was no new commandment Jesus gave, and he said it too.
      Mat 22:37-40 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

    • @tedgrant2
      @tedgrant2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kathyh.648
      I don't always agree with Jesus.
      For example in Luke 14:13 he said ...
      "When thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind and the deaf".
      At the last supper, he only called his disciples, so I think we can ignore his earlier suggestion.

    • @martinezkai4028
      @martinezkai4028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes.

  • @rms_6401
    @rms_6401 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The presenter has a talent to make domain interesting again.

  • @winstonbarquez9538
    @winstonbarquez9538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Please remember that these stories started and spread orally in the ancient near east before they were written down.

    • @BlacksmithTWD
      @BlacksmithTWD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      And then there is the question of how long the oral tradition existed before they were written down. If long enough, it could even be that (some of) these stories started elsewhere.

    • @bozo5632
      @bozo5632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I wouldn't even say they "started." The origins of the stories were already ancient in ancient times.

    • @BlacksmithTWD
      @BlacksmithTWD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Jingjing Saduay
      Nonsense, the book form existed way before the printing press was invented. Though obviously the first printed book originated from after the invention of the printing press. Perhaps you meant to say that the book form surpassed the scroll form in popularity only after the invention of the printing press?

    • @mslice0760
      @mslice0760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      not true,......the scrolls of moses (the torah 1500bc) was put under the ark of the covenant and was copied by expert scribes by God's instructions, ....throughout the Hebrew history, ....the bible tells the story of a misplaced sroll, (probably lev.) that was found behind the alter and the king ,I believe it was Hezekiah asked a copiest ,I believe it was Ezra to read it aloud to the congregation, ....this continued up to the exile to Babylon and after.(600bc-1200ad.masorites).

    • @bozo5632
      @bozo5632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mslice0760 A likely story.

  • @EscepticoHumanistaUU
    @EscepticoHumanistaUU 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent exposition of the Documentary Hypothesis 👏

  • @aaacool0873
    @aaacool0873 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Outstanding your a great explainer to us common minds I love learning from you

  • @yoso585
    @yoso585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The power of the written word, I would think, was even far greater to those that could not read. As well as the power of the reader/writer.

    • @mercedm87
      @mercedm87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right? Hahaha...!

    • @Oyzatt
      @Oyzatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If something is true, I think it should be easily understood lol

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mercedm87 And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Oyzatt And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???

  • @juvegirlbe
    @juvegirlbe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Really great lecture!

    • @centre-place
      @centre-place  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you, and good to hear from you!

    • @HOWBAZARY
      @HOWBAZARY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If your a moron. This speaker is and idiot. He makes it up as he goes along. He audience is unlearned so he can say anything and they will believe him. I would be more than happy to have a discussion with this pahrisse, It won't take me long to show that he doesn't know what he is talking about.

    • @BillyMeierInFrenchBM
      @BillyMeierInFrenchBM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@centre-place You should have a look at the work of James Deardorff about the Talmud of Jmmanuel.

    • @AnyProofOfTheseClaims
      @AnyProofOfTheseClaims 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HOWBAZARY You would get intellectually dog walked.

    • @SteveSmith-kd9if
      @SteveSmith-kd9if 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@centre-placeTHERE'S NO WAY OUT OF THAT SATAN SYSTEM FOR YOU, OR ANYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T MAKE ANY LONG TERM PLANS BECAUSE THE WHOLE EARTH WILL BE GETTING DESTROYED REAL SOON, AND EVERYONE WILL BE GETTING SENT STRAIGHT TO HELL, "WHERE YOU'LL ZOMBIES BELONG"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Kristy_not_Kristine
    @Kristy_not_Kristine ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting! Thanks for sharing these ideas. I've been studying the messy history of the mormons, especially since the time of Brigham Young and all the changes he made to Joseph smith's journals and revelations. It's so messy! It's interesting to see how messy Biblical history is, too.

    • @michaelhenry1763
      @michaelhenry1763 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, all religious history tends to be messy

  • @Blind_Side94
    @Blind_Side94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have only just discovered this channel these lectures are brilliantand so wide casting I have just finished the one encompassing the 'not so holy, not so roman, not so empire' I am addicted.

    • @VSP4591
      @VSP4591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are not alone. Me too I discovered this excelent channel and I appreciate it enormously.

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VSP4591 And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      When you think you are a Godelss idiot you been attached to this Godless idiot channel

    • @VSP4591
      @VSP4591 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mar-dk3mp Of course!!!

  • @Emcee_Squared
    @Emcee_Squared 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This topic has always fascinated me but I’m afraid it will never be anything more than just a hypothesis unless we are able to find some other ancient biblical texts that predate the Qumran scrolls. I recently read an article on NYTimes regarding an old story about an archaeologist who discovered an ancient version of Deuteronomy (possibly dating to the 1st temple period). It was declared a forgery and the discoverer later committed suicide. However, now there are scholars saying it may not have been a forgery but it is long lost. This was about 100 years ago.

    • @brahmburgers
      @brahmburgers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Try researching the Gospel of Judas. It's authenticated by The Pope and the Vatican. It shows Jesus deeply mired in metaphysics and his favorite disciple was his youngest: Judas. Additional details in the new e-book: 'Candy Coated Jesus.'

    • @oliverford5367
      @oliverford5367 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No way texts that old will have survived. So it will remain a theory, as will any other scholarly views of the Bible. We'll never be able to prove it

    • @Emcee_Squared
      @Emcee_Squared 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oliverford5367 Yes it is possible as was the case for the ancient papyrus text from Egypt known as “the story of wenamun” dated to 1000 BCE, predating the Qumran scrolls by about 900 years. And many of the biblical texts are said to have been written between the time of these two texts so it is possible that something may be discovered through future excavations.

    • @HOWBAZARY
      @HOWBAZARY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't believe in the Textus Receptus but you believe the New York Times. Get outta here.

    • @Emcee_Squared
      @Emcee_Squared 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HOWBAZARY not a fan of NYTimes but they were the only ones with that story: “Is a Long-Dismissed Forgery Actually the Oldest Known Biblical Manuscript? - The New York Times”

  • @Calyrekt
    @Calyrekt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This was outstanding, this kind of presentation is what makes me love theology so much. Thank you brother.

    • @exoxoe7128
      @exoxoe7128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I like fantasy and Sci Fi also

    • @TheJonnyzeus
      @TheJonnyzeus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@exoxoe7128 me too. even as an atheist i love studying religions and religious beliefs.

    • @patrickkirby7612
      @patrickkirby7612 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're certainly submissive and likely go with the flow. Error uh, flock.

  • @MM-jf1me
    @MM-jf1me 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Greatly enjoyed this lecture!

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course you are a Godless and Souless idiot

    • @alwilliams5177
      @alwilliams5177 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate John's intellectual rigor and humor. His lectures are quite a blessing.

  • @mikewiththebluecar
    @mikewiththebluecar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is interesting, I hadn’t realized that God must’ve given the dietary laws to Noah before Moses and yet Noah was not commanded to observe them. He was allowed to eat anything that moved after the flood of as over.

    • @Chris_Sheridan
      @Chris_Sheridan ปีที่แล้ว

      Read the bible properly - Genesis 9:4
      Noah and his family were only given the restriction to abstain from eating 'flesh with it's blood' - repeated for Christians at Acts 15:20
      Noah was not given the same dietary laws that were later introduced under the Mosaic Law covenant that only applied to the nation of Israel - natural Jews that were liberated from their captivity in Egypt.

    • @mikewiththebluecar
      @mikewiththebluecar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Chris_Sheridan My point was that God had made it known to Noah the difference between clean and unclean animals.

    • @Chris_Sheridan
      @Chris_Sheridan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikewiththebluecar .. that is possible, however, the bible account does say that when the time arrived, God brought the animals to Noah - so Noah + his family didn't have to go searching. Then it would have become apparent by checking the pairs (groups of 2) and the groups of 7, which were the 'clean' and which were the 'unclean' - evidently God (Yahweh) had in mind that after the flood, Noah would offer up a sacrifice on an alter. - Genesis 8:20

    • @mikewiththebluecar
      @mikewiththebluecar ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Chris_Sheridan In my opinion because God told Noah to bring 7 of each clean animal and 2 of each unclean animal it suggests that Noah already knew the difference between the two, otherwise God would’ve had to then explain the difference between them because at that point Noah didn’t know that God was going to bring them to him. That’s just going by what the scriptures state. There could’ve been more dialogue between God & Noah that wasn’t recorded in that conversation.

  • @ShrimplyPibblesJr
    @ShrimplyPibblesJr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Question: if we can’t make statues in any form, doesn’t it violate the Ten Commandments to make a monument of the Ten Commandments?

    • @michaelhenry1763
      @michaelhenry1763 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely!

    • @brevaldez4891
      @brevaldez4891 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelhenry1763 I think if you look at it in that light we would also need to take objection to monuments made to the cross, depictions of God the Father and the Son, as well as pretty much any venerated religious symbol. Idolatry, or the worship of objects or even depictions and symbols, casts a very wide net. Ideally, I think Jesus intended matters of the spirit to remain in the mind and within the spiritual realm. However, I do myself wear a cross as a personal comfort - I don't worship the object. Catholic veneration of "icons" could be deemed Idolatry if you take the strictest definition.

    • @michaelhenry1763
      @michaelhenry1763 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brevaldez4891 Yes, you are absolutely right. Everything you have written could be considered violating the “ graven images” commandment. I think that is why Christians since the Reformation have argued over it. That is why the Eastern Roman Empire destroyed itself over icons in late antiquity. I think this why Islam follows the Jewish approach and also bans images.
      Is it “ wrong”.? Objectively no, it is part of your religion. However, internally, it is contradicting its own tenets if it claims the Hebrew Bible as part of its own.
      As for Jesus, he never addressed this commandment.

    • @dondgc2298
      @dondgc2298 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where is it written that we can’t make statues “in any form”? I’ll save you the trouble of answering- it’s not written anywhere in scripture.

    • @michaelhenry1763
      @michaelhenry1763 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dondgc2298
      ““You shall not make for yourself an idol [ image NIV; carved image ESV] whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above or that is on the earth beneath or that is in the water under the earth.”
      ‭‭Exodus‬ ‭20‬:‭4‬ ‭NRSVUE‬‬
      ““Since you saw no form when the Lord spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire, watch yourselves closely, so that you do not act corruptly by making an idol [ image NIV; carved image ESV] for yourselves in the form of any figure: the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any animal that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the air, the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the water under the earth.”
      ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭4‬:‭15‬-‭18‬ ‭NRSVUE‬‬

  • @bell1095
    @bell1095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dont cook the goat (to complete by) "AS LONG AS IT IS DEPENDEND ON" milk from its mother. Means don't cause heartbreak to its mother, by taking her child from her. This is the empathic moral lesson of the text, as of the verbal content. The "kosher" philosophy is neither evident nor functional in context.

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or: do not eat a goat before it has had time to reproduce. This is the essence of conservation and is used in fishing (fishing permits prescribe a certain size) and behind the rules of culling animals. A good rule.

  • @wilfred5656
    @wilfred5656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Why was there no commandment not to enslave a fellow human being? Thou shalt not enslave a human being created by the almighty; something like that. It's like the bible only favors a certain group of people. That sounds like a tribal book for me - story about a small set of the world population.

    • @peterleadley7103
      @peterleadley7103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Old testament is written from a Jewish perspective as they considered themselves God's chosen people, as is the New Testament. This makes me, personally, wonder why so many Western (non Jewish) people hold so much store in it.

    • @mistressofstones
      @mistressofstones 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think in their mind they couldn't run a proper kingdom without slaves, otherwise they would have to do the work the slaves did. Everyone did slavery back then. As far as I'm concerned they lived in a kind of hell compared with the reality of us in the developed world. The romans and the Greeks couldn't imagine a world without slavery either. Actually slavery is kind of a feature of civilisation. Early prositution was slavers renting out female slaves to be graped all day every day. Many, many wives were slaves by our modern concept; they didn't agree to marry, most were too young to bear children safely, they couldn't refuse consent or leave by free will. Weve only started to understand how disgusting it is recently, like last 2 hundred years maximum. In my mothers lifetime a woman could divorce her husband without going to court and in my lifetime a woman gained the right to give or refuse sexual consent - were Australian. These are very modern concepts, and Judaism and Christianity doesn't reinforce these things, us humans just got more ethical as our life got better and more educated so we could develop more empathy.

    • @waverider6133
      @waverider6133 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@peterleadley7103right? Like why are they appropriating our culture?

    • @nickmartin123456
      @nickmartin123456 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exodus 21:2 “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. 3 If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free.
      5 “But if the servant declares, ‘I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,’ 6 then his master must take him before the judges.[a] He shall take him to the door or the doorpost and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life.
      7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself,[b] he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.
      Exodus 21:20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
      Exodus 21:26 “An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye. 27 And an owner who knocks out the tooth of a male or female slave must let the slave go free to compensate for the tooth.

    • @frankwilliams4445
      @frankwilliams4445 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It makes sense that God would have a chosen people that he favors above people who hate Him.

  • @michaelwalker3935
    @michaelwalker3935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Outstanding work. I've watched a few of your uploads and I'm quite impressed. You explain for a lay person.
    One question. What are your thoughts on Rudolph Steiner? Do you know who he is?

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know who he was: the creator of anthroposophy, which is a mixture of philosophy and guide to life/principles. I used to teach on a Rudolf Steiner school. We were also supposed to read his written work as part of our employment. Very dense stuff linguistically. Like JJ Rousseau: asking the right questions does not mean you are also able to provide the right answer. Steiner (or Walsdorf in English speaking countries) schools can be very good for some kids, and I met some wonderful people. On the other hand, a bit of sectarian whiff, and they are currently vaccination sceptics, which is not a good plan.

  • @timandmonica
    @timandmonica หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question for the presenter: have you noticed that Leviticus also contains a list of commandments that claim they were given to Moses from God at Mt. Sinai for the Israelites?
    Leviticus 27
    In verse 34 below, it refers to this whole section by stating: “These are the commands the Lord gave Moses at Mount Sinai for the Israelites.”
    1 The Lord said to Moses,
    2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If anyone makes a special vow to dedicate a person to the Lord by giving the equivalent value,
    3 set the value of a male between the ages of twenty and sixty at fifty shekels of silver, according to the sanctuary shekel
    4 for a female, set her value at thirty shekels
    5 for a person between the ages of five and twenty, set the value of a male at twenty shekels and of a female at ten shekels
    6 for a person between one month and five years, set the value of a male at five shekels of silver and that of a female at three shekels of silver;
    7 for a person sixty years old or more, set the value of a male at fifteen shekels and of a female at ten shekels.
    8 If anyone making the vow is too poor to pay the specified amount, the person being dedicated is to be presented to the priest, who will set the value according to what the one making the vow can afford.
    9 “‘If what they vowed is an animal that is acceptable as an offering to the Lord, such an animal given to the Lord becomes holy.
    10 They must not exchange it or substitute a good one for a bad one, or a bad one for a good one; if they should substitute one animal for another, both it and the substitute become holy.
    11 If what they vowed is a ceremonially unclean animal-one that is not acceptable as an offering to the Lord-the animal must be presented to the priest,
    12 who will judge its quality as good or bad. Whatever value the priest then sets, that is what it will be.
    13 If the owner wishes to redeem the animal, a fifth must be added to its value.
    14 “‘If anyone dedicates their house as something holy to the Lord, the priest will judge its quality as good or bad. Whatever value the priest then sets, so it will remain.
    15 If the one who dedicates their house wishes to redeem it, they must add a fifth to its value, and the house will again become theirs.
    16 “‘If anyone dedicates to the Lord part of their family land, its value is to be set according to the amount of seed required for it-fifty shekels of silver to a homer of barley seed.
    17 If they dedicate a field during the Year of Jubilee, the value that has been set remains.
    18 But if they dedicate a field after the Jubilee, the priest will determine the value according to the number of years that remain until the next Year of Jubilee, and its set value will be reduced.
    19 If the one who dedicates the field wishes to redeem it, they must add a fifth to its value, and the field will again become theirs.
    20 If, however, they do not redeem the field, or if they have sold it to someone else, it can never be redeemed.
    21 When the field is released in the Jubilee, it will become holy, like a field devoted to the Lord; it will become priestly property.
    22 “‘If anyone dedicates to the Lord a field they have bought, which is not part of their family land,
    23 the priest will determine its value up to the Year of Jubilee, and the owner must pay its value on that day as something holy to the Lord.
    24 In the Year of Jubilee the field will revert to the person from whom it was bought, the one whose land it was.
    25 Every value is to be set according to the sanctuary shekel, twenty gerahs to the shekel.
    26 “‘No one, however, may dedicate the firstborn of an animal, since the firstborn already belongs to the Lord; whether an ox or a sheep, it is the Lord’s.
    27 If it is one of the unclean animals, it may be bought back at its set value, adding a fifth of the value to it. If it is not redeemed, it is to be sold at its set value.
    28 “‘But nothing that a person owns and devotes to the Lord-whether a human being or an animal or family land-may be sold or redeemed; everything so devoted is most holy to the Lord.
    29 “‘No person devoted to destruction may be ransomed; they are to be put to death.
    30 “‘A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord; it is holy to the Lord.
    31 Whoever would redeem any of their tithe must add a fifth of the value to it.
    32 Every tithe of the herd and flock-every tenth animal that passes under the shepherd’s rod-will be holy to the Lord.
    33 No one may pick out the good from the bad or make any substitution. If anyone does make a substitution, both the animal and its substitute become holy and cannot be redeemed.’”
    34 These are the commands the Lord gave Moses at Mount Sinai for the Israelites.

  • @MegaJohn144
    @MegaJohn144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I am impressed by the questions coming out of the audience.

  • @luigigarciasaavedra655
    @luigigarciasaavedra655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But even if the Literalist do not accept Scholarship, they can see the differing versions of same passages. How has that been explained by them?

    • @donatist59
      @donatist59 ปีที่แล้ว

      I ask them to tell me exactly what words Pilate had written on the Cross, since the words read differently in all four gospels. I have yet to get a straight answer.

  • @economicist2011
    @economicist2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great summary. I looked this up after watching a video about how writers who invoke the Bible like to mix and match verses to suit their storyline. This video served as an excellent background to how such different messages became available to choose.

  • @jessereichbach588
    @jessereichbach588 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    About the pronunciation of the sacred, divine name, YhVh. The Rabbis passed down a tradition from one generation to the next to remember the pronunciation. So it was never actually lost.
    What happened is that at some point they decided it was taboo to say the word out loud. This word was generally only supposed to be spoken on Yom Kipur, by the high priest in the holy of holies.
    So after the temple fell, with the belief that eventually messiah will come and the temple will be rebuilt, they continued to pass down the pronunciation, only within certain Rabbinical schools and only to those of a certain status and education let's say.
    We have a letter from a Rabbi Mayer of Lublin. In the letter he states plainly that the mnemonic to remember the vowels are "le holam". Which if you understand hebrew you would understand the meaning of that if you had to decipher it. The vowels basically. And he stated plainly they are sheva, cholam and kamatz.
    They kept this a secret and denied this because Christians were running around using the name out loud. And telling other people it was ok to say it out loud. In the Rabbinical belief, they considered this dangerous. Not only dangerous but one of the worst "sins" one can make.
    They believe saying the word takes you out of yourself and into "eternity", which they claim is dangerous and something you aren't supposed to experience til death or some mumbo jumbo along those lines. We have to remember how much word magic exists in the Hebrew tradition. From golem spells, to sacred names. The Khabbalists got very into this even, and in Kabbalah there is the 42 letter sacred name and all that.
    Anyway, the pronunciation was passed down. And the vowels are indeed E, O and A. Which is "Yehovah" or "Yehowah". Now, "holam" which is a vowel sign in the Hebrew context, used to be pronounced and spelled "holem". So I'm not sure if the actual pronunciation would agree more with the old or new. But if this is the case, then the early pronunciation might have very well been "Yehoweh" or "Yehoveh" or in a lazier pronunciation, Yahweh. or Yaveh.
    But as far as the Rabbis of the early modern period and later were concerned, it would have been "Yehowah" or "Yehovah".

  • @dca4840
    @dca4840 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Food for thought. Why didn't the almighty just go ahead and create more animals instead of making Noah go thru that?

  • @jonathanzarco5697
    @jonathanzarco5697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    13:10 again same misunderstanding GEN 2:3 finishes the story of creation and then goes in to detail. But the 7 day story ended GEN 2:4 is a chapter start

  • @matheusdabnei5540
    @matheusdabnei5540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great lecture! Can anybody tell the name of the lecturer? I begg hehe

  • @PaulTheSkeptic
    @PaulTheSkeptic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn't expect many many hours of lectures. Could anyone, I dunno, sum it up for me? From what I understand, when you go back far enough, the Hebrew culture, language and religion merges with the Canaanite culture, language and religion. And it's suspected that Yahweh was originally part of the Canaanite pantheon of gods. Is that close enough?

    • @michaelhenry1763
      @michaelhenry1763 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually, El was the chief god in the Canaanite pantheon. YHWH, May have been imported from Moab.

    • @PaulTheSkeptic
      @PaulTheSkeptic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelhenry1763 The "Actually" threw me off a bit. It seemed at first like you were correcting me. But I agree. To my knowledge, that's correct. El was their Zeus. I didn't know Yahweh was imported but he was the war god wasn't he? He was their equivalent to Aries. So what part was imported?

    • @michaelhenry1763
      @michaelhenry1763 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PaulTheSkeptic yes, thank you , I am not trying to correct you. The origins of YHWH are a little complicated. You are right, he was part of the Canaanite pantheon, he did absorb the roles of El and Baal. It seems he was originally a war god from the “‘south”. Then grafted into the Canaanite pantheon.

    • @PaulTheSkeptic
      @PaulTheSkeptic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@michaelhenry1763 I should say, that's my understanding. I'm not any kind of expert. Sometimes even well researched stuff can go a little wrong if you don't have a background in the subject. Mostly I'm just making conversation.

    • @michaelhenry1763
      @michaelhenry1763 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PaulTheSkeptic I agree with you. It is fun having these sorts of conversations.

  • @iamnitrox
    @iamnitrox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Remarkably interesting. I'd love to see more stuff like this

    • @centre-place
      @centre-place  3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Please learn more about this topic in these lectures:
      Who Wrote Genesis th-cam.com/video/M5JNJIrfI4w/w-d-xo.html
      Who Built Solomon's Temple? th-cam.com/video/8IuI2L-nKd8/w-d-xo.html
      The Ten Commandments th-cam.com/video/2B3EZDcR3e0/w-d-xo.html
      Paganism in the Bible th-cam.com/video/o6DDnAjWEsc/w-d-xo.html
      Before God Was God th-cam.com/video/2kaauBP9_Dg/w-d-xo.html
      Akhenaten and Egyptian Monotheism th-cam.com/video/ZiIg58xwLXQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @NecroLiquor.
      @NecroLiquor. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      From what I understood is that the 2 of 7 that were ultimately recognized was what was preserved. That means that 5 of the 7 were allowed to be eaten by those who were to withstand the plight of being within the ark. Could be multiple authors but may not be conflictive information if one author is suggesting survival.
      Various teachings are important and most have valid viewpoints to consider.
      I mean, as a child, I sincerely thought to be made in His image was to be made to be SEEN. Like, we are in the physical realm that allows all that we do to be seen by every entity outside of this realm. (A poor example would be like our televisions allow us to see the performers and their performance but they are unable to see us watching them.)

    • @toydigger
      @toydigger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@centre-place
      I respect the effort being made, but. ...
      The first premise of being a contradiction in Genesis was really badly done.

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???
      Thank you to explain something that you do not believe... I guess next time I will let me teach how Santa Claus looks like from an african Child 😂😂😂.

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NecroLiquor. And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???
      Thank you to explain something that you do not believe... I guess next time I will let me teach how Santa Claus looks like from an african Child 😂😂😂.

  • @williambrewer
    @williambrewer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    49:00 why not just say there were two different times that he was commanded to bring water from the rock? I think your explanation is a lot more difficult.

  • @steveb2662
    @steveb2662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very good presentation. I believe the Redactor is Ptolemy Philadelphus. I also believe that, of the representatives that went to Egypt, the Judahites greatly outnumbered the Samaritans (formerly the Israelites) and that's why the J, P and D versions lean in their favor. This is also the reason for the split between them.

    • @VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz
      @VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How could the Greek Translators in Alexandria have redacted the Hebrew Text that was in the Temple?

    • @steveb2662
      @steveb2662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz what hebrew text in the temple? There is no text that predates the Septuigint.

    • @VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz
      @VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@steveb2662 What evidence is there to say that the Septuagint cam first?

    • @steveb2662
      @steveb2662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz the Torah was translated in the early to mid 3rd century BCE. This is the septuagint. There are no biblical texts in existence that are older than than the mid 3rd century.
      The evidence for this is twofold;
      1. The early Greek language, contemporary citations and datable manuscripts.
      2. The earliest dating of oldest biblical texts is mid 2nd century. Long after the time of the septuagint.
      Keep in mind, I didn't say the septuagint is the original source for the stories in the bible. Just that they, the translators were the redactors, and I believe first compilers, of what is the present day Torah.

    • @VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz
      @VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@steveb2662 I dont get it, just because the manuscripts are not available it does not mean that at it could not have been compiled at the time of Ezra. What Book did Ezra have in the 500s then?

  • @williambrewer
    @williambrewer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    27:50 I see no reason to conclude that the kings list goes hundreds of years past Moses.
    Gen 36:31-39 NHEB 31 These are the kings (it does not say descendants of Edom) who reigned in the land of Edom, before any king reigned over the children of Israel.
    1. Bela the son of Beor reigned in Edom. The name of his city was Dinhabah.
    2. When Bela died, and Jobab, the son of Zerah of Bozrah reigned in his place.
    3. And Jobab died, and Husham of the land of the Temanites reigned in his place.
    4*. And Husham died, and Hadad the son of Bedad who struck Midian in the field of Moab reigned in his place. The name of his city was Avith.
    5. And Hadad died, and Samlah of Masrekah reigned in his place.
    6. And Samlah died, and Shaul of Rehoboth-on-the-River reigned in his place.
    7. And Shaul died, and Baal Hanan the son of Achbor reigned in his place.
    8. And Baal Hanan the son of Achbor died, and Hadad reigned in his place. The name of his city was Pau. His wife’s name was Mehetabel, the daughter of Matred, the daughter of Me-Zahab.
    *Because Hadad smote the Midianites, we have to conclude that the Midianites were already a people group by his time. So he reigned probably no earlier than around the time of the 12 patriarchs. But this is no problem because the story of Joseph has the Midianites already a people group by the time he sold it to slavery in Egypt. But this is still some 300 years before Moses and there are only four more kings listed after him!
    There is absolutely no reason to conclude that this kings list goes past the time of Moses.

  • @sta8807
    @sta8807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A good solid study of duplets and old testament creation. Loved it.

  • @KatariaGujjar
    @KatariaGujjar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the name of the presenter? Excellent lecture!

  • @TheJonnyzeus
    @TheJonnyzeus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you. A dispassionate, logical, Socratic approach.

  • @buildmystartup
    @buildmystartup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for making this content - looking for professional commentary on the Bible - thank you

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???
      Thank you to explain something that you do not believe... I guess next time I will let me teach how Santa Claus looks like from an african Child 😂😂😂.

  • @MeTaLAnGeL
    @MeTaLAnGeL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    GREAT, glad I found this channel, so many questions I have answered :)

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time stading aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
      Godless and Souless western idiot are so obsessed with those videos because they do not have soul or god...
      Westerns godless and Souless idiot are the only arrogante people that want explain to others their own religion and God... Because they do not have god... They are freaking Souless robot 🤖 🤣🤣🤣
      But you are just a viper 🐍 as Jesus said, and he was right and what Viper do, expecting biting???
      I guess godless and Souless idiot they need other to explain other people religion because they do not have God or a soul, right???

    • @Mar-dk3mp
      @Mar-dk3mp ปีที่แล้ว

      Godless and Souless idiot tell you about God? I guess I need to go to the Hospital to let me teach Astrology. Godless idiot

  • @longcastle4863
    @longcastle4863 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thus lecturer is touching on things I have wondered about for decades, How did it come about that we are a species almost hopelessly caught up in fantasy and wishful thinking. I can’t help but wonder where we would be if we realized and just accepted, we are alone, we’re on our own..

  • @sentryogmixmaster
    @sentryogmixmaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    ez...Stephen King, he writes everything

    • @herrcooles900
      @herrcooles900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gilgamesch epic. 100 % stephen king 😂😅🤣

    • @DrStfuFool
      @DrStfuFool 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In collaboration with Tom Clancy and John Grisham.

    • @katherenewedic8076
      @katherenewedic8076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

  • @xxnoobslayeriv
    @xxnoobslayeriv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great lecture, but after some research, I have found that this channel is run by the Community of Christ? I love the content and the great biblical scholarship. I am having a hard time understanding the openness to current scholarship while maintaining a somewhat Morman-based belief ideology?

    • @HOWBAZARY
      @HOWBAZARY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mormans are Freemasons.

    • @chrisjohn1284
      @chrisjohn1284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The precursor to CofC split off and formed at the same time as Brighamite Mormonism after Joseph Smith Jr.'s death and the two religions are now quite different, though they share a common origin.

    • @MM-jf1me
      @MM-jf1me 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he explained it pretty well at 1:32:33. According to this idea, Joseph Smith Jr would be a divinely inspired prophet that helped others better understand God within a specific time and place in history, but his writings shouldn't be taken as literal. (At least, that's my understanding as a fellow nonmember who also enjoyed this video.)

    • @donatist59
      @donatist59 ปีที่แล้ว

      The key to understanding Community of Christ is its overwhelming presentism. Religion in the past is now wrong. Its own prophets were wrong. There was no apostasy and therefore no need for a restoration. But today's prophet is true, and if you teach that he is just as wrong as Joseph Smith, you get excommunicated. The past is always subject to criticism but the present never is.

  • @nanaalways3759
    @nanaalways3759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've yet to see a sermon on the Chinese who wrote 2500 YEARS before Moses on this topic!

    • @cyndis665
      @cyndis665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even further back Africa details this.

    • @HOWBAZARY
      @HOWBAZARY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both of you are full of it. Show evidence, it's easy to make outlandish claims.

    • @dondgc2298
      @dondgc2298 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HOWBAZARYtwo years later, no evidence has been presented.

  • @aleonyohan6745
    @aleonyohan6745 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The fact that intelligent people believe any of this is absolutely mind boggling. You seriously can't tell that the Bible was written by angry old men? You'd be less a fool to believe in Santa Claus.

    • @soaringbumnm8374
      @soaringbumnm8374 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You don't believe in Santa ?

    • @aleonyohan6745
      @aleonyohan6745 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@soaringbumnm8374 I don't do the believe thing. I use the scales of probability. I'm giving Santa Claus a 9.73 which I figure is a pretty generous number.

  • @stevensprunger3422
    @stevensprunger3422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OK but Noah would’ have only had to bring one amoeba because they reproduce asexually

    • @johnsmith-ir1ne
      @johnsmith-ir1ne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love that you've thought about that.

  • @Kristy_not_Kristine
    @Kristy_not_Kristine ปีที่แล้ว

    That's not the meaning of separation of church and state. Displaying the 10 Commandments isn't setting up a particular church/religion and forcing people to belong and believe.

    • @michaelhenry1763
      @michaelhenry1763 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, it is. The first part of the Ten Commandments are religious in nature towards a particular god: YHWH.
      Other commandments are not recognized in our legal code.

  • @robertdemartino2572
    @robertdemartino2572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Greek mystics wrote the Bible. It seems that this guy reads the Bible like a book as do most Christians.

    • @iuiu8831
      @iuiu8831 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Greek didn't exist when BIBLE was written. Same as latin. Can you explain the origin of John's name? ? Or Peter or Paul or Matthew? ?????

    • @HOWBAZARY
      @HOWBAZARY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your both wrong.

    • @HOWBAZARY
      @HOWBAZARY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Old Testament was written in Hebrew. The New Testament was written in Greek. Thank you God for calling me out of this world. People are dumb and lazy.

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HOWBAZARY Do not judge lest you shall be judged, or some such. People are not dumb. It is a wild maze of stuff out there and people have not had the chance to inform themselves, but the very fact they are on this channel means they are striving to be educated and learn and understand!!

  • @BrianThomas
    @BrianThomas 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm curious 8:21 We're looking at English translations of scripture here. What does the Hebrew text say about these two sections of scripture that were pointed out? I realize things get lost in translation, but to be far. If it was 2, 7, or more. How does that negate the end result?

  • @johndelong5574
    @johndelong5574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Our God is an all consuming fire.

  • @smallies7154
    @smallies7154 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool story Mark ‼️

  • @78Dipar
    @78Dipar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's well known now the the Bible started to be written at the order of Josiah, king of Judah, in the 7th century before JC. He had created monotheism by forbidding any other cult than the one of Yahve (who before that was one god among others), and needed a glorious (but invented) past.
    There has never benn hebrew slaves in Egypt, no escape, no crossing of the desert during 40 years, no conquest of Canaan, no great kindom with David and Solomon...

    • @BlacksmithTWD
      @BlacksmithTWD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When does a book start to be written? when the author has the first idea for that book, or when the author puts the first letter on paper? What if parts of the newly written book are copied from older books? Does then the newly written book start when the first letter of the part that was copied was put on paper (or before) in the book it copied from?

    • @78Dipar
      @78Dipar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BlacksmithTWD
      The bible started to be written at the order of King Josiah, and was far from being finished when Josiah was killed by egyptians, but his scribes contined the work, including when deported in Babylon.
      The bible isn't 100% imaginary, mentionned places exist, so do some of the characters, for example David existed, but was a small tribe chief, not a great king...

    • @BlacksmithTWD
      @BlacksmithTWD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@78Dipar
      Obviously it wasn't finished When King Josia died, the whole new testament still needed to be written at that moment.
      Merely repeating your claim doesn't answer the question I posed. Do you intend to keep talking passed each other or are you going to make a genuine attempt at answering it?
      Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my formulation of my question, if needed I can elaborate on it.

    • @78Dipar
      @78Dipar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlacksmithTWD
      Its about the old testament, not the new one !
      As I wrote the old tesmament wasn't finished to be written when king Josiah was killed.
      The new testament is something else, and was written long after !

    • @BlacksmithTWD
      @BlacksmithTWD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@78Dipar
      No, you specifically stated 'the bible', and the bible includes both the old and the new testament. Though if you had stated 'the old testament' instead , I would have agreed with you as well. There is no fundamental disagreement between us as far as I can see.

  • @WhiteDove73-888
    @WhiteDove73-888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Gnostic texts weren’t lost they were literally thrown away.

  • @Theodorik9
    @Theodorik9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    4:06 this would have been really helpful a year ago!!

    • @Theodorik9
      @Theodorik9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @MultiBagram it was a joke about the rumors that covid-19 originated from eating bats.

    • @Theodorik9
      @Theodorik9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fair enough. I admit my "jokes" are often too esoteric. I hounestly appreciate the criticism.

    • @davidcoleman2796
      @davidcoleman2796 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't eat bats you Chinese. Lol

    • @nosuchthing8
      @nosuchthing8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theodorik9 why do you think it was a rumor

    • @Theodorik9
      @Theodorik9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nosuchthing8 i should have said speculation.

  • @shadowenighthawke2023
    @shadowenighthawke2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well Done

  • @dongorth9102
    @dongorth9102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bronze age goat hearders made a lot of the fairytales up..The rest were passed down from older religions..

    • @yohei72
      @yohei72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure, but why the classist snearing about "goat herders"? It's a perfectly respectable occupation, and a lot more useful than being a king or a priest.

    • @dongorth9102
      @dongorth9102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yohei72 Didnt say it was a bad job..That's just what they were.Could have said they were Carpenters but they were in a desert..

    • @IamRobinBanks
      @IamRobinBanks 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They just kept inventing more ideas just in case they ran across atheists that would ask them questions they couldn't answer. Faith was a good one

  • @longcastle4863
    @longcastle4863 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Were the sacrifices of the first borns eaten? And if so, were exceptions made for human first borns? Would love to hear a talk sometime on how exactly the sacrificial system worked in Israel and the surrounding Nations, including how it worked and changed over time.

  • @trakeC
    @trakeC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bro, this guy is a Christian? That made me double take. I had to rewind and listen to him say it again. To give this speech and still be a christain... Thats faith!

    • @nosuchthing8
      @nosuchthing8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hes a scholar

    • @trakeC
      @trakeC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nosuchthing8 with more faith than any of those flag waving phony fundamentalists

    • @HOWBAZARY
      @HOWBAZARY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He isn't a Christian. He never once talks about a Daily Cross. By his own admission he makes it up as he goes along. His own denomination. Read this channel's About section, he is a pagan. He sounds like he has a Jesuit/Freemason script.

    • @HOWBAZARY
      @HOWBAZARY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nosuchthing8 that's another term for Pharisee.

    • @yohei72
      @yohei72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HOWBAZARY Yes, we know your kind of Christian has contempt for learning and independent thinking. You're not telling us anything we don't know already.

  • @williamcody3415
    @williamcody3415 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LOL at 24:15 No cheesebugers But seriously go to Abraham at the tent serving God Lunch. Quick, Sarah make bread, servant prepares a calf ( beef) and Abe brings curds (cheese) and milk. So it could be that Abe was the first to make a cheeseburger... not a Bacon Cheeseburger of course, Because that could be bad. But YHWH could be the source for being the first Burger King!! And their slogan was - " Have it Yah Way" like Abe saying "Here, have it, Yahway".. just a thought

  • @waltseng1014
    @waltseng1014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have a problem with the number of animals garnered if Noah (?) rounded up all. The number of species extant is about 7 million. Boggles my mind. Must be a myth. The ark would be about the size of Texas.

    • @waltseng1014
      @waltseng1014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Food? Excrement management.

    • @waltseng1014
      @waltseng1014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      7 million x 2 = 14 million creatures. Nonsense.

    • @waltseng1014
      @waltseng1014 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least you appear to have a sense of humor

    • @Buddah001
      @Buddah001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Consider each kind of animal may be much less. One kind of dog then, a wolf. And so on.

    • @mslice0760
      @mslice0760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@waltseng1014 If the animals were extinct, then they were not on the ark,.....any animal species that came after the flood came from the original kind (genettic switches )that was on the ark........also the animals could have been put in a state of hibernation, thus solving the feeding and waste problems.

  • @AdrianneMilam-qk7ze
    @AdrianneMilam-qk7ze ปีที่แล้ว

    Closed caption misses a lot

  • @yetanotherjohn
    @yetanotherjohn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    BRAVO! Very informative and thought-provoking. & You could become millionaires by teaching other lecture videographers how to include the visual slides or powerpoint presentation on the screen instead of simply showing the speaker's face.

  • @alwilliams5177
    @alwilliams5177 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    According to Dr Erhman, there are over a half million variants in manuscripts of which 99.9% don't effect meaning. Most of them result from the lack of standard spellings.

  • @JustMe-fz7xn
    @JustMe-fz7xn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sad, there is no contradiction in the two sets of verses on the animals coming by twos. All 14 of the animals that were clean would come by twos, don't you get it, they came in breeding pairs. How narrow must the mind be to not see that simple truth. All 14 of a clean group didn't show up together, they came by twos. Wow.

    • @kinanshmahell8065
      @kinanshmahell8065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      he is quoting from a different part you moron

  • @HolgerGruber
    @HolgerGruber 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great as ever! One surplus, compared to most of your other talks: this one heavily benefits from the many questions and comments of your listeners.

  • @seekerknowledge8640
    @seekerknowledge8640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Whom script thy true bible? Enkidu Elohem. King of kings, See'er of see'er's. Builder of builders. Awaken source energies from thy slumber thou hath forgotten thyself. Seek and know source within. Enlightenment is now.

  • @johnrogers7772
    @johnrogers7772 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Deuteronomist is presumed to be a Levite priest from the Mosiac 'camp' at Shiloh. Solomon selected an Aaronite Levite High Priest for the first temple, and as a result, the Mosiac Levite priests 'lost' the power battle. The Aaronites controlled Temple worship until the destruction of the second temple in 70CE. The tension between D and P is a best understood from this perspective.

  • @katfishkobain8809
    @katfishkobain8809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Adam and Eve were the first couple not to read the fine print on the Apple 🍎

    • @drmontague6475
      @drmontague6475 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where did they shit and and piss? What did they use for loo roll? A god who creates a universe doesn't create a shower and toilet block! God was walking in the garden and trod in Adam and Eve's shit!

    • @leavingtheisland
      @leavingtheisland 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If only they had purchased AppleCare

    • @katfishkobain8809
      @katfishkobain8809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leavingtheisland and all they got was Apple Pay🍎

    • @mslice0760
      @mslice0760 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it was written in braille on the Apple

  • @sanjanewmoonlife
    @sanjanewmoonlife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nobody following these rules. Life is full of sinners. You are not innocent, you are also a sinner.

    • @curbroadshow
      @curbroadshow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What rules? It’s all a mess of contradictions.

  • @edinshealtiel3754
    @edinshealtiel3754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    WHAT A GREAT MAN...
    I HAVE SAVED THE VIDEO THANK YOU....

    • @HOWBAZARY
      @HOWBAZARY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No man is good let alone great. This guy is a Pharisee. Your just u learned and lazy. You will believe anything but you won't study. Stop believing some guy just because he puts on a show and uses buzz words and a stage.

  • @hadz8671
    @hadz8671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did Noah know which animals were clean and unclean? That isn't stated until Leviticus.

    • @Chris_Sheridan
      @Chris_Sheridan ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha ha! .. yet another person who asks questions and has not read the bible account. Proof that people blindly follow self-appointed TH-cam preachers who themselves are ignorant and devoid of knowledge.

  • @curtbressler3127
    @curtbressler3127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Before watching the video....my guess is: The Romans wrote the bible.
    After watching the video:
    J sounds like the original concepts set forth by paganism, egyptian, greek, etc.
    E is beginning to lay claim that Israel is the source of those earlier beliefs
    P & D is the Roman Catholicism (P) and Apologetic (D) takes on J & E
    R is simple post hoc apologetics
    At best, we know that it was written by people who had personal motivations to lay claim to what god is and what god wants.
    Knowing that Christianity is plagiarization of numerous earlier and dominant belief systems; the bible is written to lay claim of such beliefs as well as demonize those who continue to exercise those beliefs without paying fealty to the systemic hierarchy of Christianity.
    While this presentation focuses only on the bible, with a feint gesture to what came before it.
    It's more important to explore the origin of the contents of the bible with a study on how the bible has been distorted away from those origins.

    • @crhu319
      @crhu319 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Um there is no reason to believe Romans had any power to alter Torah Jewish texts at any time, they could have exercised a lot of control of "New Testament" works tho, they would have needed collaborators.

    • @utahquarrydirect
      @utahquarrydirect 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have any recommendations for content that explores the distortion of the origins of the content of the bible?

  • @beesplaining1882
    @beesplaining1882 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is the guy giving this lecture? I'd be better if he gave that detail before speaking. Why would anyone watch this without knowing this.

  • @ld8936
    @ld8936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For it is written: “I will make the wisdom of the wise men perish, and the intelligence of the intellectuals I will reject.” Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this system of things? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not get to know God through its wisdom, God was pleased through the foolishness of what is preached to save those believing.

    • @dantallman5345
      @dantallman5345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The point being?

    • @ld8936
      @ld8936 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dantallman5345 What point was I making? I was simply quoting the words of the apostle a Paul (1 Corinthians 1:19-21) who in turn was quoting the prophet Isaiah (Isaiah 29:14) who was actually quoting the words of the author of the Bible, Jehovah God. He mocks the pride and false wisdom of both those who proclaim them selves wise and the sycophants who praise them. Jehovah said: “I will make the wisdom of the wise men perish, and the intelligence of the intellectuals I will reject.“ As Paul put it, the “so called” wisdom of this world actually prevents them from getting to know God. The prophet Jeremiah predicted that; “The wise have been put to shame. They have become terrified and will be caught. Look! They have rejected the word of Jehovah, And what wisdom do they have? (Jeremiah 8:9)

    • @dantallman5345
      @dantallman5345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thx for the clarification. Although it was more or less what I expected, I do appreciate the specifics you provided. All the best.

    • @ld8936
      @ld8936 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dantallman5345 Thank you Dan

    • @tonygarrett7214
      @tonygarrett7214 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ld8936
      I think you have failed to grasp the point of the video. God was not the author of the Bible. You also need to do some research on the pre-Judaic, tribal pantheism from which monotheism evolved. You also seemed to have been snared by the trap in logic, of the propositional given; namely that god exists.

  • @scienceexplains302
    @scienceexplains302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is no major commandment against lying in general. “Bearing false witness against your neighbor,” refers to a specific lie against a fellow Jew.
    Leviticus 19:11 do not deal falsely or lie to each other (to the people receiving the message: Jewish men).
    The Bible rewards certain types of deception, such as Abraham and Isaac deceiving Pharaoh and gaining significant wealth from it.

    • @oliverford5367
      @oliverford5367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Yahwist author doesn't portray his heroes as perfect saints. They do a lot of naughty stuff. It's quite refreshing in a way.

    • @scienceexplains302
      @scienceexplains302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oliverford5367 Maybe. Does any religious text paint the heroes as perfect?

  • @NATASEXISTS
    @NATASEXISTS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why did Noah have to bring more than one of each animal onto the Ark when the God he worshipped could impregnate a human female without the use of the male sperm, surely his God with all that power could have come forward and multiplied the animals using the same method?

    • @redraver939
      @redraver939 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its an allegory for the official establishment of "one man one woman" patriarchal culture. male supremacy becomes normalized by this event. Noah was the charismatic leader of a global mens sexual rights movement, today we would have called him an incel.

    • @VaxtorT
      @VaxtorT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Theseustoo Astyages Actually it is you who are the conformist...to the accepted, indoctrinated norms of modern society. Christians, true Christians, are the true non-comformists. But you are blinded by your own self-deception.

    • @redraver939
      @redraver939 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Skydaddy Myth-Busters how is any of that different from media today? Ever notice the Bible has commercials in it?

    • @NATASEXISTS
      @NATASEXISTS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Skydaddy Myth-Busters Bottom line is there ain't no god and there never has been so wake up to the real world.

    • @NATASEXISTS
      @NATASEXISTS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well to be honest I find your words and you quite boring and you are probably one of those bedroom warriors who's life has not amounted to nothing so why don't you run along little boy and out that joystick down because it's having a negative effect on your state of mind.

  • @malcolmdavid722
    @malcolmdavid722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent video ! The books were all burnt in the Babylonian conquest as you cant take them whilst your being taken captive ! Esra re-wrote them for the 2nd temple and used 5 scribes, named: Sarea, Dabria, Selemia, Ethanus and Asiel.

    • @montag4516
      @montag4516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      From that isn't it likely that those books were at least somewhat flawed due to being re-written by the imperfect, sometimes egotistical, hands of man?

    • @malcolmdavid722
      @malcolmdavid722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@montag4516 They are all flawed being the work of man, my point is there are more than just the 24 books adopted by Judaism. I have proof there were 94 books, 70 of which were lost, with some adopted by rome for the 14 ITB with the LXX being a contrived explanation

    • @montag4516
      @montag4516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. And throughout the ages it is indeed the victors who write what is commonly served as historic truth.
      How do you, yourself, decide what to take literally as opposed to what is just allegory? or if there's even a larger scale disinformation system that we (who seek truth and clarity) must see through in order to get to the source?

    • @malcolmdavid722
      @malcolmdavid722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@montag4516 I remain a berean using my own spirit of righteous discernment which linked to the spirit of the Most High gives me daily insight in prayer and thought on the journey Those that blindly accept the ‘inspired’ canon of man and all its faults have shut down their intellect and spirit of discernment which is precisely the intent of thought control. Ie We tell you what to believe and do.
      If anything bothers you.... its because its meant to raise a concern and proof your spirit it alive ! So the question is perhaps what do you feel is not right ?

    • @malcolmdavid722
      @malcolmdavid722 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@montag4516 ps Genesis is a greek word and contain allegory of fruit and trees etc

  • @peterleadley7103
    @peterleadley7103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasn't El the name of a Canaanite god? (1:00)Indicates the use of the name El as either a generic term for a god, or even naming an actual one, making Elohim the term used for describing the followers of El, as in Genesis 6:1-4, or sons of God. That would imply that there was an evolution of theology from early religions into the monotheistic God of Abraham.
    Noah's 2x2 of unclean, and 7x2 of clean, sounds like provisioning the ship!!

  • @Baka_Oppai
    @Baka_Oppai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    you couldn't even fit all the insect species of the world on that ship let alone 7 pairs of animals lol wtf

    • @BlacksmithTWD
      @BlacksmithTWD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that argument is based on a changing the goalpost fallacy, since it pretends that the concept 'animal' is the exact same concept in scripture as it is in modern science, which is obviously and demonstrably not the case. Ipso facto all animal species that got discovered and recognized as separate species in biology after the bible was written.

    • @ketsune23
      @ketsune23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BlacksmithTWD yeah right as if Noah had millions of kilos of daily food to feed all those animals. Dont tell me you believe also that a guy can lose his strength if someone cuts his hair as happened with Samson lol

    • @brahmburgers
      @brahmburgers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Noah story is fine for little kids, but adults should grow up and toward wisdom.

    • @ketsune23
      @ketsune23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@brahmburgers No. They are not good for little kids because they will become retarded adults with irrational superstitions for "holy" books

  • @robertherring3429
    @robertherring3429 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can’t believe how he is so off. At time marker 11:27, he’s questioning Noah being able to make sacrifices when Aaron and the sons of Levi were only allowed to be doing it. Aaron wasn’t even born yet. Noah was only one of eight people on earth at a time. Who is the one chosen by God and therefore the one with the knowledge to do sacrifices and to teach them to his family. Aaron was not even born yet. Abraham wasn’t born yet, neither was Isaac or Jacob. It was At least 900 years later when there were over 2 million descendants of Jacob (for he had 12 sons) after the exodus from Egypt, some rules had to be laid down To guide them in keeping their faith on track. This guy has already made several mistakes of judgment upon this text. I have 14 translations available to me and none of them use the wording of the blue. They all say male and female not man and women. What is that. You can’t have a man and a woman dog. It’s male and female. Whatever that interpretation is could’ve been written by anybody. It definitely is not an acceptable, viable translation. And when making proper comparison of any two translations needs to be using the exact same versus in each copy. Not comparing verse one and two to verse eight and nine. It’s part of the continuation of the writing. You can pair a verse one and two of one translation with verse one and two of another translation. Same goes with any writing. Even when you’re comparing a Spanish writing and an English writing. You compare the same sentences. Not five sentences later. He’s not even worth listening to the rest of this.

  • @mae8861
    @mae8861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Wow and people really believe this stuff? Amazing!!!!

    • @johnmichaelson9173
      @johnmichaelson9173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Evangelicals what can you say about them other than gullible?

    • @rodneysettle8106
      @rodneysettle8106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@johnmichaelson9173 they must refuse to actually understand the history and context of these stories and just believe what they read, and sheeple just believe what they hear.

    • @HighStakesDanny
      @HighStakesDanny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Basically the cause of all the current problems everywhere. It's craziness

    • @aninsimone
      @aninsimone 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know, the bible is fantastical

    • @SimplicityForGood
      @SimplicityForGood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      as in contrast to believing what!? Darwin? slow small changes that cannot even create the fossils we have today!? There are no simple answers to history and earth! If you think its, you certainly included yourself in all the people you just stated are lunatics ! you must be really naive to say the least... poorly educated kids like you seem to be all that is left of humanity today...

  • @Jim1971a
    @Jim1971a 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why did God command “Thou shall not kill” but he killed almost everyone in the flood?

  • @terryhman8527
    @terryhman8527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The brothers Grimm, great,great,great,grand father.

    • @cristianm7097
      @cristianm7097 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Biblical stories are grim.

    • @terryhman8527
      @terryhman8527 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are not only grim,a lot of them are immoral, and are some what evil.The endorsement of slavery, by a supposed god, the command by a so called god to commit genocide,pure evil !there is no god, there are evil people that manipulate the masses into believing in a god, for their own selfish ends,or to ease their own guilt at having slaughtered an entire population, pure evil dressed up as religion!