Amazing and very interesting video🎥✨.. Super like👌👌👌. Good information and very helpful. Do keep posting Warm regards and best wishes The UnknownManCub 👍😎👨🏭
Did my wall using traditional sand cement, good tip re the adhesive to fix the beads down! The rockcote seems to give a really nice smooth finish, KRend always looks to be a lot more textured?
That’s fine, I used sand cement years ago and back in the uk, there’s different rockcote products to achieve certain finishers, the client wanted a smoother look so I went with the off white which the sand is a lot finer giving the desired look, yes because of how that product is finished with a scratcher float and it’s silicone based which is similar to our texture in Australia, our texture can be tinted so it doesn’t need to be painted and finished with a plastic float, very similar looking finish to the Krend 👍
Awesome job mate, looks very clean. I've just finished building a retaining wall out of the same blocks used in your vid, it's going to be holding soil back one side so I'm waterproofing the back, rendering the front and topping with limestone slabs. Do you know if they're is a one coat render system like that in the UK? I was under the impression I'd have to put on a scratch coat and then a skim coat. Cheers in advance for any info 👍🏼
Hey buddy how’s it going ? Thanks mate, there is a few products one I recall is pro rend that is a two coat system though, you’d apply base coat with mesh and scratch it then the next day apply top coat with a float finish, these products are designed to be a visible finish so if it’s just getting covered up there’s no point, just use sand cement and screed it to make sure it’s flat for your slab, if the brick work is good and the back of the slabs are even you should be able to stick straight to the block work, you can in Australia but the products may be different there, I’d just coat it in the morning with a base coat of sand cement give it a screed and scratch then apply a top coat in the afternoon with a float finish, I’ve done sand cement in one coat and never had a problem, just apply a bit of bond to the mix along with plasticiser. 👍
@@millsfitness4742 That's great mate, thanks very much for your help. I'm not expecting a finish like you managed here but I want to get it close! Have a guddun mate.
Yes they do use a similar system just slightly different products and system to the uk, there’s still foam boards which you render and mesh and can apply a texture (finish) top coat which you finish with a plastic (pvc) float, they usually use it for gable ends and second story sections on the house, they don’t use it on every job though, iam from the uk also if your a good renderer it wouldn’t take you long to pick up the systems over here, things are different but the same if you get what I mean lol. I’ve also used the spray machines, it not worth it unless you have big flat walls to spray we’ve used them on houses and buy the time you’ve done all the taping up and prepped the machine it’s easier to get a few decent lads to just trowel it on, you don’t see them much over here though.
This in Australia mate because you sound British and I’m from Liverpool uk and worked all round Brisbane and Melbourne and I can tell by the buckets your using it’s Aus ??
It’s a pre blended render product called rockcote (based in Australia not uk product) it’s fine sand cement with bonding agents and additive’s already in the mix, just need to add water. 👍it’s one of the finer products which the customer requested, you can get heavier more course products made by the same company.
Do you ever have any issues with the render cracking where you applied the adhesive? I only ask because I used that adhesive to put my beads on and left it for a few days to dry, but then unfortunately it rained and the adhesive absorbed all the water and went squishy & soft to the point where it was softer then when it came out of the tube. I have left it and it has hardened back up but I'm just a bit worried about rendering it in case it does this underneath the render and causes cracking later on.
I actually have, it depends what adhesive you use this old stuff I used to have was brilliant never cracked but unfortunately they stopped selling it so when I moved onto a different adhesive I had airline cracking around the beads and it became boxed, instead of ripping the beads of I applied neat bond over the beads and then rendered over the beads once I removed all the loose render and it never cracked, my advise is apply the beads with render beforehand or to save time and work use a small paint brush to apply bond over the plastic beads and then render. 👍
I’d preferably do two coats on most things especially block work or recessed brick work, because it’s was only a small wall and painters were booked in I had to get the job done in a day, 👍
@@MrStevieb00 usually on prick work and block I always do a scratch coat 2 coat system, unfortunately I had to get the job done in one day as I had another job booked it, so I scratch coated it gave it an hour or two then topped it. 👍
I've built a wall just like that for the first time and was looking to use krend to finish it but I've been told you cant render both sides of a wall because of moisture and the render will just blow off in time. Any idea or tips bud
Hey mate, are you based in The uk? Iam in Australia and they don’t have k rend here, Every country has there own products and systems of doing things, in Australia usually a retaining wall being used as a flower bed or back filled with soil I assume that is what your doing as you mention there will be moisture against the wall, you waterproof the back of the wall to we’re the soil will be filled, then there is usually at least 200mm worth of exposed brick or block showing, that is the part you render right down to the soil line, gives the illusion the whole wall is Rendered, if you check out my other render video (learn how to render) that’s exactly what I’ve done there, U can also render over waterproofing with special render, before putting your standard block render on top of it, in Australia it’s called patch & prep, lots of different company’s make there own version, there is also a really good Dulux product called acra patch mix it 50/50 with Dulux render sticks to anything If the wall you want to render will not be exposed there is no need to render it as it will not be seen, just make sure you give it two coats of waterproofing that will stop the moisture from penetrating the wall just make sure the surface is clean and as dust free as possible👌 If your just rendering the wall with no moisture I.e soil against it and it is just exposed you defiantly can render both sides I’ve never had problems were render blows of if the whole wall is Rendered, just make sure the wall is dry before applying. Hope that helped any other questions feel free to ask.
Cheers bud great info. Didn't realise you were in oz. I'm in Scotland a bit different weather wise sub zero winters can cause havoc with render .the joys
Haha that’s the truth, can get additives to help with that, still not ideal though, Scotland gets cold!! Iam originally from the uk & had family from there
I'm in the desert and making a 2 ft high retaining wall that is 8 inches thick, 30 ft long. Since it's the desert, would I need to do a irrigation behind wall? Barely rains here.
What context do you need irrigation for ? If your talking about needing water for rendering the wall and finishing it you don’t need a irrigation system for that you just need water for mixing and finishing it, if your having plants or vegetables behind the retaining wall and you need water for growing then possibly,
@@millsfitness4742 I meant a french drain system. Seems pointless in having one if you live in the desert. Yes it rains but not a lot. Oh one last question if you dont mind. How come some people put rocks down before concrete? Other just put concrete down on compact dirt. Is it the same reason depending on how much rain that area gets?
I wouldn’t bother then, you only need a drain in if your using it to divert water if there’s no house near by or it’s not a big hill side we’re water will run to the retaining wall I don’t see and issue not putting one in the ground will soak it up before becoming a problem. it’s hard to say without seeing the job or what your trying to accomplish with this retaining wall your putting in. Every country has there own systems of doing things as I’ve worked in both Australia and England, being from England we always put aggregate down and whacker plate it before concreting, Australia they put something called crusher dust down pretty much looks like powder but it works. If your putting a footing down you won’t need aggregate or anything for that, only when your doing a slab, dig at least 350-400mm deep that is plenty for a small 2ft retaining wall 👍
@@millsfitness4742 nice one man .. we have just been granted our visas this week and coming out in august but just don’t know where about we are gonna be going yet so was just wandering .. i do similar here in Scotland and was wandering would I struggle getting work ?spoke to a few people and they says if yer decent with hawk and trowel should be fine lol cheers mate 👍🏻
Congratulations, it’s a bit different from Scotland iam from the uk and there was a few things you’ll need to get used to but overall it’s a great place to live, especially lifestyle wise, works booming here in qld, the systems and products are slightly different to the uk but if your decent you’ll pick it up no problems, there’s a product I just starting using over here it’s called proroc very similar to our multi Finish back home just dries white, iam sure you Won’t have trouble finding work mate, best of luck with everything 👍
@@millsfitness4742 Thanks a lot for the reply it helps man cause paranoid about work and not even there yet lol .. a know am sure I’ll get something sorted just take a bit of getting used to i suppose cheers bro get some more vids up so I know what to expect 😂😂👍🏻
Sticking the beads on with adhesive or render you get a lot more solid fixing and if the wall isn’t plum you can pack the beads out to we’re they need to be, plus trying to nail beads in a motor joint the nails always come loose with these beads especially as soon as you put any pressure on with your trowel, the beads you use in Australia are different to the metal ones you use on the uk, there plastic
Top job
Far too good for that wall.. Well done
Amazing and very interesting video🎥✨.. Super like👌👌👌. Good information and very helpful.
Do keep posting
Warm regards and best wishes
The UnknownManCub 👍😎👨🏭
Looks mighty
appreciate the video
Did my wall using traditional sand cement, good tip re the adhesive to fix the beads down! The rockcote seems to give a really nice smooth finish, KRend always looks to be a lot more textured?
That’s fine, I used sand cement years ago and back in the uk, there’s different rockcote products to achieve certain finishers, the client wanted a smoother look so I went with the off white which the sand is a lot finer giving the desired look, yes because of how that product is finished with a scratcher float and it’s silicone based which is similar to our texture in Australia, our texture can be tinted so it doesn’t need to be painted and finished with a plastic float, very similar looking finish to the Krend 👍
Awesome job mate, looks very clean. I've just finished building a retaining wall out of the same blocks used in your vid, it's going to be holding soil back one side so I'm waterproofing the back, rendering the front and topping with limestone slabs. Do you know if they're is a one coat render system like that in the UK? I was under the impression I'd have to put on a scratch coat and then a skim coat. Cheers in advance for any info 👍🏼
Hey buddy how’s it going ? Thanks mate, there is a few products one I recall is pro rend that is a two coat system though, you’d apply base coat with mesh and scratch it then the next day apply top coat with a float finish, these products are designed to be a visible finish so if it’s just getting covered up there’s no point, just use sand cement and screed it to make sure it’s flat for your slab, if the brick work is good and the back of the slabs are even you should be able to stick straight to the block work, you can in Australia but the products may be different there, I’d just coat it in the morning with a base coat of sand cement give it a screed and scratch then apply a top coat in the afternoon with a float finish, I’ve done sand cement in one coat and never had a problem, just apply a bit of bond to the mix along with plasticiser. 👍
@@millsfitness4742 That's great mate, thanks very much for your help. I'm not expecting a finish like you managed here but I want to get it close! Have a guddun mate.
Lovely work I'm from UK also do they do silicone thincoat in oz.
Thats majority of my work in UK.
I also spray apply the render considering a move??
Yes they do use a similar system just slightly different products and system to the uk, there’s still foam boards which you render and mesh and can apply a texture (finish) top coat which you finish with a plastic (pvc) float, they usually use it for gable ends and second story sections on the house, they don’t use it on every job though, iam from the uk also if your a good renderer it wouldn’t take you long to pick up the systems over here, things are different but the same if you get what I mean lol.
I’ve also used the spray machines, it not worth it unless you have big flat walls to spray we’ve used them on houses and buy the time you’ve done all the taping up and prepped the machine it’s easier to get a few decent lads to just trowel it on, you don’t see them much over here though.
This in Australia mate because you sound British and I’m from Liverpool uk and worked all round Brisbane and Melbourne and I can tell by the buckets your using it’s Aus ??
Yeah mate Australia, iam from the uk moved over 15 years ago
If you don’t mind me asking, what is in your mix to make it that smooth? Is it just cement, sand and lime?
It’s a pre blended render product called rockcote (based in Australia not uk product) it’s fine sand cement with bonding agents and additive’s already in the mix, just need to add water. 👍it’s one of the finer products which the customer requested, you can get heavier more course products made by the same company.
Hello. I live here in the USA. what kind of beads are those? Are they metal or vinyl? Great video!!!
Hi mate, there plastic ptt beads, standard in Australia 👍
Thank you so much for the reply. Keep up the good work my friend! 👍🏼
Do you ever have any issues with the render cracking where you applied the adhesive? I only ask because I used that adhesive to put my beads on and left it for a few days to dry, but then unfortunately it rained and the adhesive absorbed all the water and went squishy & soft to the point where it was softer then when it came out of the tube. I have left it and it has hardened back up but I'm just a bit worried about rendering it in case it does this underneath the render and causes cracking later on.
I actually have, it depends what adhesive you use this old stuff I used to have was brilliant never cracked but unfortunately they stopped selling it so when I moved onto a different adhesive I had airline cracking around the beads and it became boxed, instead of ripping the beads of I applied neat bond over the beads and then rendered over the beads once I removed all the loose render and it never cracked, my advise is apply the beads with render beforehand or to save time and work use a small paint brush to apply bond over the plastic beads and then render. 👍
@@millsfitness4742 Thanks for that. After seeing how it goes when getting wet I was getting nervous. Might go back to using render again. Cheers
No worries mate, Safer bet I reckon, all the best
Hi - thank you for this video. I notice some videos do two coats, and some do one coat. How do you know when to doe one or two?
I’d preferably do two coats on most things especially block work or recessed brick work, because it’s was only a small wall and painters were booked in I had to get the job done in a day, 👍
Was going to ask the same thing I always do a scratch coat but that wall looks amazing 👏
@@MrStevieb00 usually on prick work and block I always do a scratch coat 2 coat system, unfortunately I had to get the job done in one day as I had another job booked it, so I scratch coated it gave it an hour or two then topped it. 👍
@@millsfitness4742 great job pal stick in👍
Is it ok to paint even the the edges of the beading is showing, will it stick to that?
100% 👍
I've built a wall just like that for the first time and was looking to use krend to finish it but I've been told you cant render both sides of a wall because of moisture and the render will just blow off in time. Any idea or tips bud
Hey mate, are you based in The uk? Iam in Australia and they don’t have k rend here, Every country has there own products and systems of doing things, in Australia usually a retaining wall being used as a flower bed or back filled with soil I assume that is what your doing as you mention there will be moisture against the wall, you waterproof the back of the wall to we’re the soil will be filled, then there is usually at least 200mm worth of exposed brick or block showing, that is the part you render right down to the soil line, gives the illusion the whole wall is Rendered, if you check out my other render video (learn how to render) that’s exactly what I’ve done there,
U can also render over waterproofing with special render, before putting your standard block render on top of it, in Australia it’s called patch & prep, lots of different company’s make there own version, there is also a really good Dulux product called acra patch mix it 50/50 with Dulux render sticks to anything
If the wall you want to render will not be exposed there is no need to render it as it will not be seen, just make sure you give it two coats of waterproofing that will stop the moisture from penetrating the wall just make sure the surface is clean and as dust free as possible👌
If your just rendering the wall with no moisture I.e soil against it and it is just exposed you defiantly can render both sides I’ve never had problems were render blows of if the whole wall is Rendered, just make sure the wall is dry before applying.
Hope that helped any other questions feel free to ask.
Cheers bud great info. Didn't realise you were in oz. I'm in Scotland a bit different weather wise sub zero winters can cause havoc with render .the joys
Haha that’s the truth, can get additives to help with that, still not ideal though, Scotland gets cold!! Iam originally from the uk & had family from there
I'm in the desert and making a 2 ft high retaining wall that is 8 inches thick, 30 ft long. Since it's the desert, would I need to do a irrigation behind wall? Barely rains here.
What context do you need irrigation for ? If your talking about needing water for rendering the wall and finishing it you don’t need a irrigation system for that you just need water for mixing and finishing it, if your having plants or vegetables behind the retaining wall and you need water for growing then possibly,
@@millsfitness4742 I meant a french drain system. Seems pointless in having one if you live in the desert.
Yes it rains but not a lot.
Oh one last question if you dont mind. How come some people put rocks down before concrete?
Other just put concrete down on compact dirt.
Is it the same reason depending on how much rain that area gets?
I wouldn’t bother then, you only need a drain in if your using it to divert water if there’s no house near by or it’s not a big hill side we’re water will run to the retaining wall I don’t see and issue not putting one in the ground will soak it up before becoming a problem. it’s hard to say without seeing the job or what your trying to accomplish with this retaining wall your putting in.
Every country has there own systems of doing things as I’ve worked in both Australia and England, being from England we always put aggregate down and whacker plate it before concreting, Australia they put something called crusher dust down pretty much looks like powder but it works.
If your putting a footing down you won’t need aggregate or anything for that, only when your doing a slab, dig at least 350-400mm deep that is plenty for a small 2ft retaining wall 👍
@@millsfitness4742 thank you
Hi mate where about a in Australia are you ?
Qld mate
@@millsfitness4742 nice one man .. we have just been granted our visas this week and coming out in august but just don’t know where about we are gonna be going yet so was just wandering .. i do similar here in Scotland and was wandering would I struggle getting work ?spoke to a few people and they says if yer decent with hawk and trowel should be fine lol cheers mate 👍🏻
Congratulations, it’s a bit different from Scotland iam from the uk and there was a few things you’ll need to get used to but overall it’s a great place to live, especially lifestyle wise, works booming here in qld, the systems and products are slightly different to the uk but if your decent you’ll pick it up no problems, there’s a product I just starting using over here it’s called proroc very similar to our multi
Finish back home just dries white, iam sure you Won’t have trouble finding work mate, best of luck with everything 👍
@@millsfitness4742
Thanks a lot for the reply it helps man cause paranoid about work and not even there yet lol .. a know am sure I’ll get something sorted just take a bit of getting used to i suppose cheers bro get some more vids up so I know what to expect 😂😂👍🏻
Haha 😂 will do mate 👍
Why dont you guys nail the bead,
Sticking the beads on with adhesive or render you get a lot more solid fixing and if the wall isn’t plum you can pack the beads out to we’re they need to be, plus trying to nail beads in a motor joint the nails always come loose with these beads especially as soon as you put any pressure on with your trowel, the beads you use in Australia are different to the metal ones you use on the uk, there plastic