Miranda is already an actual decorated war veteran at the time Reach fell. She is already has her own command. What the actual fuck mandates framing her as weak and not accustomed to combat? And she is not a mechanic, she is an officer. Her main skills to showcase are leadership skills, so why focus on her tinkering with stuff when she already has a whole crew to do that. She's supposed to be doing the jobs that people look up to her for; leading.
@@Gabdube sir its called a movie, it is for the people who don't play the games or read the books it builds background for the character and shows how she knows mechanics and can get chief out of his pod like he explained like 2 minutes later
I might've cooked a bit too much with this choice, but Jamie Foxx as Sergeant Johnson...? Just watch his performance in Jarhead and tell me he wouldn't be a solid pick.
Or just cast David Scully, the guy who actually voices Johnson. He's got some movie acting experience and he's only 49, probably a good age for Johnson on screen
Ya I think one of the major issues with modern action movies is there always seems to be a need for a romantic subplot no matter how forced it may be. Besides, Jenkins had a sad enough story and redemption in Halo anyways without having to force someone who was on the Luna colony to be somewhere they weren't.
@@Lateraldamage I mean idc if Halo has romance cause its not the main focus of the story, its just that Master Cheeks slept with a covenant spy😭💀. Mf is the saviour of Humanity, a hero😭FOR HUMANITY, Master Cheeks hates humanity for no reason too.
The only romance this show needs, and the only ones that it has time for or makes sense, is the weird tension between chief and cortana, the love between Johnson and that one Elite, and the love a grunt has for the food nipple back at the ship.
@@flarezona9889 Idc either if it's done well but most now are not and there isn't any romantic tension in Halo 1 or the book so it has to be very well done or it's not much better than any other fan fic or the silver timeline. As you said it's not the main focus of the story, but love wasn't really the focus of any of the original trilogy(other than maybe Cortana). It's been awhile so if you have any contradictory info I'm all ears.
All halo needs to win: - Big green tank man go brrrt. - Small, mostly naked blue ai woman be snarky - Mouthy marine with a cigar fetish go snipey snipey & would have been your daddy, but the dog... - large lizard man go wort wort wort and arrrrghhh wuubaduugh! - alien popcorn go pop - Warthog go vroom - Grunts go boom - Ring goes kaboom - Longsword goes zoom - Big green tank man is just getting started - roll credits - post credit alien grabass scene It's not that hard peeps.
Exactly this. The first Halo book and game are essentially a 1:1 for cheif's story and has a decently enough flushed out side story for relief. Would only make sense for Halo's adaptation to Cinema to be the same.
Miranda is a fantastic character... But not like this. The Mandalorian showed that the strong silent type can work as a protagonist. Chief can be strong and quiet (not silent), Johnson is excellent comedic relief, and Jacob Keyes is a great hero character. Not only that, but Thel Vadamee is a fantastic villian angle. Introduce Miranda in the first movie, then really flesh her out in the second. Not the other way around. By the time the third movie comes, we'd be as excited to see where Chief, Arbiter, Miranda, and Johnson go as we were to see where Luke, Han, Leia, and Chewbacca end up in their third movie.
I feel like Chief or any Spartan really (in the show) should be shown in this perspective kind of thing, like don't make the camera revolve around or focus on him if that makes sense like mainly make it how others see him and stuff to really sell his legendary status but he still emotes and he still subtly shows his train of thought running or something like that. And then if they have a scene where he is alone or feels alone like in the Library or the underground place in the Guilty Spark level, then we focus on his perspectives to sell his depth as a character. Its kind of like a plot twist but mainly cinematographically? I was just thinking about in the games, you play as Chief right? Everything seems smaller than you, but if you really read or think about it, something like Grunts are actually similar in height to the average human.
@@SuspenceF00L_Gaming I think Blompkamp and Denis would be great, too, but Im assuming that the rumors That Chris loved Halo are true. In which case, I think Id rather take Chris’s innate passion for the series over anything else.
@@Corranhorn122 if that’s the case then we will get a very watered down version of the Halo universe. Nolan doesn’t tread into the R rated territories, he bares close but never fully embraced it. I’d much rather see Denis make a film centered around chief and him maybe getting like 10 -20 lines in the whole 3 hr film.
@@Corranhorn122 there was a time where Spielberg Neil and Peter Jackson were attached to the original film saga. I’d like to see a collaboration of Denis and Chris though . Neil could just do visual and practical .
Hard disagree on Miranda being so important to the plot especially in the first movie. You set her up as a minor character in the first one who speaks with her father so it has weight when he is killed because of the flood. The relationship between Cortana and chief should be more fleshed out than any other since it’s a movie that should be focused on Master Chief. The marines serve well enough to move the story along. Needless side character interaction (as well as the massacre of Chief as a character) is what killed the tv series.
Right. Miranda is a talented ship commander in her own right. Let her excel at what she excels at. Don't needlessly insert her. This guy is making all the mistakes the other show did.
I really don't like the idea of a romance with Sgt Jenkins. Keyes doesn't need it, and it's VERY off limits in the military to date in your chain of command. Miranda also should absolutely not be on the same ship as her father when he finds the first halo. She very explicitly was not there, and that's a huge part of her ACTUAL growth arc of living up to her father's legacy in Halo 2/3. I also really dislike Miranda starting out as weak as she does in your script. She's not just a regular person, she's a ranking officer in the UNSC. She's literally a proven leader
@@Nichrysalis youre not the one to talk about an illogical leap lol not when i talk about stickly him ,and what i gather from this specific video, and you try to say i criticized the entire fandom lol Idk about his channel idk what the rest of his channel has to do with the video.
Honestly, I have to massively disagree on inserting Miranda into the story like that. Also Miranda isn't a child or weak at all, she's an officer in the UNSC, not the sort of person to not be used to combat by any means. It just doesn't feel necessary when Cortana is already there and goes through her own arc over the course of the original trilogy herself, she is that emotional mirror to the Chief, she is smart, has the girl boss energy and also plays a very large role in the story as a female co-star to Chief. You've made a solution looking for a problem with writing in Miranda into the story from CE, she also wouldn't be present on her fathers ship, it would also be against military code for her to have a relationship with an enlisted member when she herself is a officer in the naval command structure. There's so many characters like SGT Johnson for example that you could pick as what essentially would be a third co-lead/co-star, since Cortana already fits that role, that could be included instead of Miranda that would fit the role much better lore and story wise.
Agreed, honestly if you really wanted both romance and accuracy you may be better off making 4 movies, movie one from Halsey's perspective as narrator about Reach and perhaps Chief's Childhood and Miranda's, movie 2 from Keye's perspective as Narrator, up until his death, at which point perhaps the film goes "silent film/hybrid" making key use of Cortana for voice lines on occasion but otherwise thriving on music and sound alone. Three being narrated by Miranda and more closely following Chief than the Arbiter. 4 being a spinoff like Letters from Iwa Jima, possibly being told narratively by Sergeant Johnson and leaving the Arbiter and Sangheli as translated subtitles going over Arbiter's H2 and 3 experience. Then 5 being told through Halsey, Miranda, and Cortana's narration, the story of Chief's H3, with the narrator being hopeful about the remaining characters as Halsey, fearful yet determined as Miranda, then confused, unreliable, and damaged as Cortana. Edit: I clearly forgot, the "romance" in 1-3 would be Halsey/Keyes, and the subtext of both characters place in the story would be "legacy" and "hope" through Chief, Miranda, and Cortana.
I don’t think Miranda should be the person to give personality to the movie at least in the first movie I think Johnson should be the character to do that and I don’t think he needs to be weak, this would work because his death in 3 was so impactful imagine how a well written move would make it feel
22:08 If Steve Downes wouldn't be down to do it, you couldn't go wrong with Henry Cavill, he's nerdy enough to actually give a shit about the source material and being faithful to it.
I have a myriad of problems with this, most importantly Miranda should NOT be in the library at all. Miranda should stay with Cortana at the control room and be the one to call out guilty spark for planning to kill all organic life when chief returns.
@@jackgrove4621 See "myriad of problems with this" it's obvious Miranda being on the ring is dumb to begin with, but a normal human surviving the library is straight up laughable. It's pretty obvious the creator of this video never read the flood, as it fills in the "human story" he's reaching for just fine.
@@jackgrove4621 i dont think u have to stay close to the books , just respect the source material. but the guy obviously needs to do a little more research in the series. like sgt johnson should be immune to the flood for one example.
@@huntclanhunt9697 yes, but it can be assumed that there wasn't anywhere near as many corpses to feed the flood at the time he had went in. All of those elite and human corpses weren't on the ring for hundreds of thousands of years.
While I want this to do well, I’m really not sure about bringing Miranda in as someone chief needs to babysit. Also giving the important parts of what master chief did to Miranda doesn’t sit right with me at all, chief succeeded with those impossible tasks because he is the master chief.
Ideally, Miranda should be out of Chief's hair entirely in Halo 2 & 3 and just doing her own plot thread away from him. I figure the entire reason he felt the need to include her in Halo 1 is so that there's some more natural connective tissue to the beginning of Halo 2 at the award ceremony. My big suggestion for Halo 1 would be that if Miranda is going to be the main character going through a big arc in these three films, then she needs to do so at the start away from Chief with some of the marines (this also makes the loss of the marines more impactful, as well as it gives us a POV of the marines being captured during the second mission before Chief comes and saves them). Then she could link up with Chief during the flood attack and accompany him for the rest of the film (and it'd feel a lot less forced, we could say Halsey had been avoiding Cortana as much as she could until that point due to being based on Halsey), but before then, she should play support if she's an engineer. I think the big issue this guy is overlooking is that Chief does need to be a focal point character in this, even if he's not really a character with an arc in these films. He basically serves the same role as other flat arc characters like Goku. He still needs to be THE important character that drives the plot forward. By comparison, Miranda would basically be filling a Gohan type role in this analogy, the only difference being that Miranda dies in the third film.
@@four-en-tee while I didn’t understand the dragon ball references I get what you’re saying. I still feel that making chief the main character we follow (while cutting away occasionally similar to halo: the flood) is the best choice. Miranda doesn’t have a place in halo 1, I understand why he included her but I disagree that it’s a good idea.
@@orielsy Except that the Miranda he proposes breaks the canon completely, it just turns her into a damsel in distress essentially, instead of her already being a decorated war hero with command over her own ship (the in amber clad) DURING the fall of reach.
I hole hardily disagree with Miranda being the focus or even in CE at all, considering she is on Luna during the events of CE. Having Miranda in CE breaks the story Bungie laid out and ruins any future events that focus on her in H2 and H3. Like her first seeing Delta Halo and saying, "So this is what my father found." The Premise though I like, But have Chiefs partner be Johnson or either a marine or ODST that we know survives to the book First strike! You have the serious silent warrior (Chief) and then the comedic soldier everyone loves. Sure it alters some significant events, but nowhere near as drastically as having Miranda present. This leaves it so, in Johnson's case, he can take the lead in H2 with Miranda and her squad when they raid Delta Halos Library without Chief or his lines in New Mombasa, "Stick with the Chief, he'll know what to do" be all the more impactful. Ultimately though, regardless of any significant changes like that, the story NEEDs to stay the same. Like the LotR example you used, Bungie gave us a perfect story that dosent need huge changes to narratively adapt or fit to live action. Even without a sidekick, Chief on his own or with just Cortana can absolutely be done, just look at Mandalorian for example.
If CE is to be remade, a Band of Brothers-esque retelling of it is the best route. On-the-ground storytelling from the men and women who were there! Halo, especially CE, is steeped in 1990's grungy sci-fi in the Aliens tradition. This should be leaned into - essentially (like the game) setting up a heroic action flick with bravado and some camp, then delving into horror, and ending with the bittersweet sacrifice and struggle of destroying the Ring. Focus (again, like the game) should be on-the-ground action, but more of the characters should be fleshed out, but they can still remain the plucky and determined rogue's gallery that the UNSC Marines always were! This makes the slow attrition and their eventual deaths one-by-one more and more impactful! Chief, like all spartans, should be an asocial freak, a weapon... he probably won't be in many scenes except to deliver one-liners, act as a vessel of overwhelming force in key scenes, and otherwise be detached and often absent as the film goes on (doing other missions away from the marines) Halo is about humanity, so the film should represent humans' tenacity in the face of existential threat. The marines may falter, but they never lose hope in the grand scheme. Halo is hope.
Even if Chief's helmet does come off it needs to be done the way it's done in almost all Halo Media, you see either little to nothing or just the helmet with it teasing.
I really dont think focusing so much on miranda and changing so many things about the original story would work, miranda just seems like a bitchy child and this might kill the chance to make a sequel where she is a badass due to the first movie, thw studio would actually have to commit to the 3 movies and their scripts before they actually make the first one
@@32BitJunkie that's exactly what I'm saying, I understand that in the long run she could turn out to be better, just look at Ahsoka from Clone Wars, that was the whole point at first, but in this case you'd be taking an already shakey franchise, doing a movie on it which would be extremely likely to bomb at the box office due to every single thing leading up to now when it comes to Halo. After all that, you randomly take a Halo 2 character, shove them in a Halo 1 retelling, make them act like a child, no disciple whatsoever, despite being the daughter of a highly decorated navy captain, an extremely important scientist/genius and after going through basic training and at least some action herself, how does any of that work? How does someone who would be raised in wartime, be something of a genius herself, choose to follow in her father's footsteps without already having been taught, understanding and respecting the military lifestyle? It just makes no damn sense to me, the way I see it, if the person grows up in a military family and they decide to follow in their footsteps, by the time they've made that decision, the time for rebellion is over.
You went off the rails the second you introduced Miranda as a main character. The magic of the Bungie Halo trilogy was the lone wolf aspect of the games. Master Chief works best when he's on his own. Supporting characters like Miranda, Johnson, Jacob Keyes and even Guilty Spark add to his character through their interactions. The girl boss trope had long run it's course. If you are going to go back to the roots of Halo, go all in. Bet on the man himself. The iconic spartan 117. I'm not saying you don't understand Halo. It's evident you are truly a fan of the series and it's lore, but the lore needs to be honored, not altered. Miranda isn't even introduced until Halo 2. She wasn't even present during the events on Installation 04. A good movie, or series of movies would be able to fit nicely into the existing story line without any wiggling. THIS is what the true fans of Halo really want. Breaking from the lore is what turned off the fans to Paramount show to begin with. Clearly, the feel of what Halo truly represents is lost on you. It is perfectly encapsulated on the back of the original Xbox game's box. No offense meant by this. I love the creatively. For what it's worth, your pitch is MUCH better than what we got. Keep the ideas coming!
You cant make a film about that though. You can't have this stoic, silent soldier as the main character, and still make the movie have any emotional depth. It works fine in the games because 95% of the time you're actively playing in combat which is entertaining, but it wouldn't work trying to tell that story through film. You need character development and resolution, not just a 2.5 hour long Master Chief cutscene montage. Chief needs to be a major-side character in the first films and become more and more important as they progress, eventually becoming the main character when it comes down to him being the ONLY one left, and at that point it can just be all combat scenes. Chief doing what Chief does. One final push to save humanity, after Keyes and Johnson are dead. But that should only happen in the third film and for only like the last 45 minutes, and until then he needs to just remain a fan-favorite side protagonist for the first two films.
Exactly! Have Cortana and Chief play off each other. Say what you will about Halo 4, but their dynamic was perfect in that game. Exposition and storytelling don't have to rely on words and conversation. Look at movies like "A Quiet Place." Chief being Chief is all that is needed. You can still be a 3-dimensional character without speaking constantly. Deviating from the core story of Combat Evolved is the last thing a "good" Halo film needs. Over thinking what should be included to make a good movie is the reason adaptations of video games have been so hit or miss. In most cases, miss. If you are going to add anything to the story to make it more interesting, dive a little more into Johnson's character. We already know he plays a big roll later in the series and since he actually was present on the ring in Halo 1, why not expand a bit on his time there? Between Captain Keyes, Johnson, Cortana, Spark and all the random marines Chief interacts with, there is no reason good storytelling can't happen without altering the lore. K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid! At the end of the day, fans just want a faithful adaptation. It doesn't need to be so complex.
The main problem I have with Miranda staying with chief is that, if they arent driving vehicles, chief will be moving around the ground at like 5x the speed that Miranda can manage and for 10x the time.
You have some great skills in putting these videos together. The editing, production value, your articulation vocally, etc… glad to be here before your channel really blows up my friend!
It's absolutely not how I'd do it but I like it. My issue is, introducing the flood in a first movie would leave very little wriggle room. I feel like the first film should be more about why Mjolnir armour was produced in the first place. So, movie 1 is Spartans vs humans and introducing the covenant. Movie 2 is the war with the covenant and the introduction of the Flood. And movie 3 is about resolving the issue with the Flood.
You're forgetting this is what they did in the games, and it worked well. For a potential Halo 2 after Halo 1 introduces the Flood, instead of outright mentioning it they could allude to it. This could help build tension so new viewers would have a slow buildup, while returning fans would have a slow hype buildup.
I've certainly not forgotten. I even appreciate it, as any Halo fan should. But I think it's important for there to be some focus on the narrative happenstance of humanity having something to defend themselves against the Covenant; the Spartans. That's where the story depth comes from. If there was no insurrection there'd be no need for Spartans, and the Human/Covenant war would be over pretty quickly. That backstory needs at least 45 minutes of screen time. Master Chief and Avery Johnson deserve their characters to be given weight and depth so that the casual watcher, as you mentioned, can attach to them. Why would a casual care about Dr Halsey otherwise? All that is meant to come before we get to the Covenant or even to the Halo installation, but it can be done in half or 2 thirds of a film. Imagine watching as the sounds of the first sirens ring out as the Covenant find Harvest, and the human colony goes into mass panic on screen. Imagine Master Chief seeing a video of that from worlds away, unable to do anything about it. You'd give up high levels of emotional response and character reasonings to jump straight into the story of CE? Most people barely care about wars happening on the other side of our planet, so you understand that you've got to make character's reasons for fighting more personal. I believe that requires backstory. What I'd actually do is play out the intro from CE in mostly the same way until it's time to wake the Master Chief. As he's asleep, you can go right into the flashback for the bulk of the story to be told, ending, of course, with the Master Chief in cryostasis, and the Pillar of Autumn cruising towards the Halo construct as Captain Keyes makes his famous plea "Cortana, all I need to know is did we lose them." with Cortana replying "I think we both know the answer to that." Then the credits finally roll. Just like in Halo Reach. The Flood? That comes later.
I'm not sure if I prefer this over CE's story. There were many different directions to take in order to have a 3D character with the chief and have them have a secondary plot, like Johnson. With him, you can even still do the whole "love story" thing with Foehammer. I personally prefer Miranda being a mature grown-up character, because it better represents her need for perfection and wanting to live up to her father's legacy, and more notably, her mother. You also can't forget that she's a commander of a ship. She doesn't just work on a multi-million dollar ship when it's weapons go down. Adding the fact that she basically grew up without her father, and while her mother still cared for her - she's Halsey - she's got more important things to do, so Miranda taught herself to be independent, and all of her naval knowledge was self-tought. It would also be a weird character shift from being well known as "the ballsiest officer in the fleet" to an desperate, immature little girl who craves validation from her father. Miranda shouldn't be in this film, at least not on Halo. Your version strays too far from the story's simple perfection in my opinion. I also feel like the master chief is less of a main character in this. While he is mastef chief and he's quiet and all, he isn't a pushover nor is he mute, he's a commanding figure and still quite intimidating. Infinite's version should be the basis of his character. I also prefer how Jenkins' plot was handled in The Flood, with him seeming more heroic, while still letting us feel his agonising pain. Jenkins' story was incredibly sad and was genuinely one of the most emotional things I'd ever read. I think that story should be left well enough alone.
Agreed! I disagree on Chief being akin to his Infinite appearance, though; I'd argue the cold and almost eery nature of Spartans from the lore should be leaned into! Spartans are asocial freaks!! :)
I disagree with this script. Way too much focus on Miranda. I believe the best cinematic version of Halo would focus on Master Chiefs journey on reach and on halo rings but with flashbacks and references to his past showcasing his upbringing, memories, lost comrades etc. More focus on the behind the scenes of the war, spartan program, chiefs human side but without revealing too much at once.
@@austin0_bandit05 Well, yeah, I’m sure they could let him out a little bit the way they did doing a backstory between how he was picked for the spartan program maybe even a little short of him, ringing the bell Or my favorite from the younger years of when he stalled the pelican
@@scooby91981 I think that's why Miranda is a good choice for bringing in the human element. Master Chief isn't a person so much as he is an archetype. Similar to the Greek hero of myth they're vague embodiments of qualities.
Picks for cast: Jen should play Halsey - Her special range just cannot be replicated Grab Scar Jo for Miranda - She has got the best track record of learning to combat evolve Andrew Garfield as Jenkins - A great actor for a green marine Kostner for Keys - He's got the attitude and look Steve - You'll do great
@@BigWhiskey09 Dam, that's a good pick, I didn't think about him, my choices were between Julian McMahon and Jason Clarke, this is going also by look alike from the Halo Reach version of Keys
A side character in the first film i guess. Just make sure you give him a lot of memorable one-liners and badass moments and you've got Johnson pretty much set. Also, he definitely still needs to die fighting Guilty Spark come Halo 3. Beyond that, maybe he plays as Miranda's love interest in 2 and 3 and further develops in those films to fill Miranda's shoes once she's killed (y'know, at least until he dies; that sets Chief up for the warthog run sequence and the ending on the Forward Unto Dawn). Ideally: Miranda is the protagonist of 1 and 2, and Johnson is the protagonist of 3. That way if we do commit to a Halo 4 years later to cap the movies off with, Chief can be the protagonist and we can tell the rampancy story while cleaning up the forerunner lore. And then you end the movies there. The hardest part of writing a story is knowing when it needs to end, and 4 is a great place to end Chief's story if you don't end it with 3.
Wow what a good video. I never thought about making Miranda the character the audience grows with so that Chief can be who he always is. This deserves way more views!
Another problem with your idea Miranda is an anchor and the problem with Halo is the speed of the story! A successful halo with be a speedrun of CE not a paired up character arc
I would use Pvt. Jenkins instead of Miranda as the 3 dimensional character. He would be the likeable, relatable character which would make his death more impactful but also show how bad the flood is by being able to follow his dying like in the book The Flood. It would also add to the horror vibes when following the Chief because you wouldn't have Jenkins banter in the background anymore. You could focus on the ambient sounds, the squelching of the Flood, the Chief's boots on the deck, the echo of gunfire, dripping of fluids, etc.
Definitely gonna join the chorus of voices saying Miranda on the same ship as her father in CE doesn't make much sense. But definitely save her from the disgraceful death in Halo 3.
the only addition i would make to this is include some of the scenes from the novelization of the game, there are some very good scenes in there that fill in a lot of gaps and explained things the game left out which really flesh out the plot.
Making Miranda’s attachments and relationships across the characters in the halo universe that were (almost) all actually present within the game - the forefront of the emotional aspect in the film is a great idea. Chief definitely needs some solo screen time and missions throughout, though. She can’t be his FOIL the whole time and be ever-present, because it would take away from his own accomplishments I think
Dude this video was incredible. I listened to your script idea while working an autopilot task and it’s like I was literally there in the movie, I got emotional (because it’s not real)
Amazing video! I also loved your point about it being similar to Peter Jackson’s LOTR trilogy. I would love for the movie to open with a brief history of the war, flashbacks of planets being glassed, populations being decimated, and then cutting to the fall of reach. Similar to the monologue we got in the opening of Fellowship.
I'm not against the idea of having Miranda be in a prominent role, I think that has the potential to be really interesting, why not have the focus be on Sargent Johnson instead? In the first game alone he's popping up all over the place as he's involved in first meeting up with Chief on the ring, with rescuing Captain Keys and the surviving command crew from the Truth and Reconciliation, was part of the Captain Key's squad that went looking for the weapons cache that turned out to be the Flood (so he was at ground zero, a pretty Sgt. Johnson thing to experience imo), and also escaped Halo before it exploded. So much space for storytelling in those scenes alone, not to mention the ones we never see in game. Also there's already a canonical reason why Johnson is able to survive the Flood without an environment suite on like Chief, since he was part of the ORION Project. Aka the project that later became the Spartan program that created Master Chief. That could set up a really interesting dynamic with Chief and Johnson as you can tell they both very strongly respect and trust each other and you see that grow throughout the games. For example, at the end of Halo 3 Chief literally gives Johnson Cortana to activate the unfinished Installation 04 on the Ark. That's some amazing trust Chief's showing by handing over Cortana so easily to him after everything that's happened. Chief and Johnson have a fantastic dynamic in Halo 2 and 3 so it could be a fun area to explore that dynamic/friendship throughout the events of Combat Evolved as it seems Johnson is one of the few people Chief trusts to get the job done without question, and that's so satisfying to see a friendship like that be tested and strengthened. Also Johnson is a very vocal person, a great counterpart to Chief's stoic and quite demeanor. He could bring to a movie the right balance of humor, badassery, and space horror that the original Halo trilogy has without disrespecting the source material.
I think the Chief and Cortana relationship is the best in the series. It’s like later in The Witcher books when you realize Geralt has a genuine love for Yennifer that transcends the Wish.
More people need to see and share this video. Some fantastic thoughts and inspiration here. I hope the next show/movies follow suit of a story of this nature.
Most adaptations today can be described as: Necromancers promised to resurrect the thing you love most only to cast animate dead and parade the bloated corpse in front of you only to be confused about why you're horrified at the desecration of the thing you used to love
to expand on your idea of a trilogy i’d suggest the first movie being more of a prequel type setup from project osiris introducing sgt johnson, young chief being kidnapped and trained in the spartan 2 program to spartan 3’s and the fall of reach, ending on the autumn finding halo, this allows a quality product that respects lore and can introduce new fans to the actual story. the second movie can basically be halos 1-3 which would work cus it would cut out hours of combat gameplay, maybe sprinkle in some odst shit, and the finale can take place instead of the 343 stories starting on the forward unto dawn with new storywriting but better than halos 4, 5, and infinite, ending on master chief’s either retirement, sacrifice, or death, preventing any later reboots from fucking up the canon. casting wise: steve and jen obviously keith david is a must josh brolin as keyes i like your choice for miranda and i saw someone said jamie foxx for johnson which im not against but if they could find a better fit that may be lesser known id be cool w it and definitely get nathan fillion and maybe ron pearlman in there somewhere. and i hope to god they put halfjaw in it
For clarity sake, I meant PVT Jenkins, not SGT Johnson. SGT Johnson will still be a part of the story just like in the game, and there is not a “romance plot” between Jenkins and Miranda, just subtle hints that they might be pretty close. Certainly no romance story lines like in the Halo show. The details of their relationship are up to the audiences imagination. This just makes his death that much more emotionally impactful. Hope that clears things up!
I believe that the whole Halo CE journey Chief should be with a team of a handful Mariens. Chief, Miranda and some Marines escape from the ship and like in the games half of them Die because of the crash landing. Then you have Chief rescuing the Mariens like in the Games and making contact with Foehammer. From this part forward you have a big group of Soldiers with chief as Teamleader doing the stuff of the story and many of them die along the way due to the flood. Miranda getting more skilled, the less people are still alive. They find Sgt. Johnson along the way and in the end a handful Mariens destroy the pillar of autumn and escape with foehammer from the Ring so you have Chief, Miranda and Johnson in a Pelican or Longsword with some lucky dudes flying home… Jenkins could be there from the beginning or they could find him with Johnson. He can also survive with them towards the end. In that scenario every character can have his specific role in the Story. Cortana telling them what to do and giving instructions and explaining why they have to do it instead of just leaving and saving themselves. Master Chief leading the group in Combat and always making sure that they survive (this way you can show him as guardian angel for the humans -> humanity) Miranda being frightened and “weak” at the beginning but learning from the interactions between the Mariens and therefore grows with them and becomes more important to the team the less are still living. Sgt. Johnson when he joins the team becomes that mental support for the Mariens and the group to stay together and keep going whatever the odds. The Mariens just want to leave but Johnson is keeping them away from doing it. Foehammer, You could even make be the same guy from Halo infinite (I wouldn’t recommend this decision because, you would have more female characters otherwise) but you don’t have to kill her of like in the game. She could still crash land but be rescued by the chief or the whole team and then she flies the Longsword. Throughout the movie Chief should always be determined to leave no one behind and to do whatever is necessary. While the Mariens are desperate to save their lives. Chief could go alone and then always succeed but he never judges the other because of their fear and that there want to save their own lives. Sgt. Johnson even not judging and just motivating them without being too aggressive, like we know him from the games! This way you create a positive dynamic and an iconic Movie version of Master Chief who is a saviour and actually show it instead of just telling. You would also have a good message along the line of “if you’re stronger you have a greater responsibility to act and do good things” stuff like this! You should have a handful of people survive. The main cast and some side characters maybe even Jenkins. So you have a cast for the next movie and you don’t have to RedCon the ending for Halo 2 if you show Johnson and some others surviving. That would make the whole package for me and sell it for a greater audience! …I guess 🤷🏻♂️😂
Couple of things could be interesting, you could make Miranda Foehammer (Echo 419) since she’s a mechanic it’d make sense that she’d be tuning up her own Pelican. With Miranda being a focus, you could really play on this idea that it’s sibling fighting alongside each other as Halsey may be Miranda’s actual mom but the Spartans were truly Halsey’s children.
Foehammer is too iconic to do that. I'd rather get the emotional payoff of her dying in the end than undercut her character by turning her into Miranda and allowing her to survive. Part of the great narrative of the game/books is howuch resistance humans put up only to fail in the end. Master Chief needs to be the only person we see getting off the ring. "Just dust and echoes" is such a great line and know others survive reduces its impact. Miranda adds nothing to the story overall (she would have a great character arc though) and would reduce the opportunities we get to see chief and Cortana bond.
I feel like the threat of the flood can’t be accurately portrayed if there’s other survivors. Chief investigating a missing fireteam that all died will introduce a horror element that I don’t think will be as effective if Miranda is there and also makes it out
The camera pans across an open field. A warthog easily glides through tall grass. Cut to a shot of the driver and a female passenger. The driver confidently repositions his hand on the steering wheel. Cut to wide shot of a nondescript man and several marines standing beside a Pelican. "Dr. Halsey. I'm ONI."
You could just do a Band of Brothers style series that follows Marines. Spartans and other recognizable characters make appearances, but it's about the Marines and their stories. - Relatable characters. - More writing freedom. - Less CGI requirements. - Facilitates easy world building.
I don't think Miranda should be the main protagonist we have had so many female protagonists in Hollywood that are terrible that i know they would do the same to her.
Right now is indeed a bit of a bad moment. People have had enough of badly written female leads, so much so that they are likely to avoid watching movies with female leads wether or not they are indeed badly written. Bit sad and unjust... But when the pendulum swings too much on one side, it has the momentum to swing hard in the other way.
I have an idea for the TV show. The idea is like halo legend or love death and robot, little stories with different characters. We need to remember than halo is an different stores in the games and the books.
I always felt that killing Miranda was one of the biggest missteps in Halo 3, I get that it was done to ramp up the stakes but it felt weirdly cruel, like killing off both father and daughter, just didn't work for me. I really like giving her a much bigger role as well as actually getting to see her interact with her dad, something we never actually got in the games. If they wanted to do that scene I think keeping Foehammer alive so she could crash into the citadel feels more in line with her character than what's described with Miranda.
I never had any issue with her dying as well as her father, tragedy is not bad in itself. What bugged me however is that she never got to play any real role in the story before she was killed. In a way it's not unrealistic: there are no protagonists in real life and war. But in a spectacular story such as Halo's first trilogy, I expected characters we see to play key roles there and here, but Miranda never really made an impact in the storyline beyond being at the initiative of following Regret in H2. Her character was also a bit bland in her depiction, which was something thankfully fixed in H2: Anniversary, where she seemed a bit more invested and less weirdly stoïc. So what really bugged me after all, is that Miranda was more or less decorum, like Mercy as well. But even then, Mercy displayed way more character than Miranda.
@@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy Again, not convinced it was bad to make her die. What I think is the issue is that she wasn't used whilst she was alive. You gotta realize that she was dead weight for the entirety of H2 and H3, and therein lies the issue, not in her death.
I think this goes without saying, but master chief can't just be an emotionless extra. Just like Pedro Pascal as the Mandalorian; he needs to be able to show emotion through the armor at times when it is crucial.
I'm sorry no, this is having similar issues to the Paramount show. Changing what's already been established. Adding characters where they shouldn't be, having a romantic thing going. If you want to tell a different side of what happened in the first game, just do the novelization of Halo the Flood. Chief is in there, Cortana is in there in and out of the main story, but you get to see what all the other Marines and even the covenant are doing throughout the first games story. People need to stop trying to take what is canon and what is established and changing it or adding things that they feel would make it better or more artsy. Paramount writers wanted to do their own thing and look where that got us. I appreciate the thought and work put into this story. If we want to do a Halo movie that has to do with Miranda and her backstory before Halo 2, then a lot of this could happen in that, just don't go injecting all this new stuff and story beats into what we already know and love.
I disagree that Miranda needs to be in the first film at all. I get it's for emotional connection or what not, but honestly I feel like her being shown on Cairo station at the end of the film as a little tease to the start of a second movie (i.e Halo 2 where she accepts the award for her father's sacrifice) would be much better. I picture it as having the same shot of showing her name on her uniform like Captain Keyes at the start, before moving up to show her putting on her ceremonial cap in a private room before the award ceremony, mourning her father. Those of us who played the games know Captain Keyes is dead and this is his daughter, but it would be a better introduction for those who haven't played Halo before to show Keyes has a daughter. It also still keeps that 'human'/emotional part of her in somewhat. Whilst we hear some cheering in the background of her scene (for Chief and Johnson), the scene of her mourning her father before the ceremony shows that in war, every casualty has an effect on someone, somewhere.
I’m sorry man but no, this isn’t what we’re looking for. It sounds like what would happen if Disney got their hands on the I.P. It also makes no sense. The whole point of Miranda’s story is that she DIDNT find the first ring, because she finds the second ring in halo 2 and that puts her on her own character arc. Halo doesn’t need helmetless heads or relatable human characters to work, and that’s not what the appeal is to people. The appeal of halo is the cool, cold, badass seven foot tall Spartan in green armour kicking ass and dropping cold af one liners while saving the galaxy. I also don’t see why Cortana is so underutilised in both your script and the halo tv show. Cortana is the ‘human’ character in halo. That’s the point. The machine is more man than the actual man. She’s more human than chief. She’s the one that does the talking and feels the emotions. Cortana is the one who conveys the emotional stakes to the player in the halo CE cutscenes, not chief. The story is about him and her, it always has been and always should be, it’s why it works.
I think that if Nolan were to make a Halo movie or trilogy... he is very well capable of playing with Chiefs childhood/origin throughout the movies. As Nolan loves to play with the concept of time in his movies. So he would keep Chiefs origins a mystery but would be revealing it through thw films conflicts.
Seems like a lot of other commenters don't like the idea of Miranda being important, I think this is understandable because of how people tend to hijack characters of older IPs and try to make them outshine the old protag. But it can work! I think the writing challenge with her is figuring out how she will complement Chief, since usually Cortana takes care of all the things that chief can't. It's hard to avoid making either cortana or miranda a somewhat useless accessory, which could be annoying. Maybe having Miranda have her own solo subplots as well as scenes together with Chief would balance the characters.
I won't lie this is better then the original show. But Master Chirf should be the main character. This sounds good on paper but not on screens. I could see her playing big party in a halo 2 movie.
Honestly...let it die. Halo is best served as either A) animation [that way no one gets arrogant about having to show their faces, AND plenty of budget for boisterous, crazy action gore, and what people actually want from Halo...or B leave it alone. Its perfect as a game and book/graphic Novel series...
Personally, I have 2 actors in mind I think will be perfect for Master chief / John-117 himself: 1. Jason Statham, as he has incredible combat training and has insane knowledge for fight scenes that feel real, he is also good with head movement and fantastic body language which can be fantastic for chief. But I mainly think he would do better for Isaac Clarke for a Dead Space movie or series. 2. Kane Hodder, for anyone who does not know who this walking goliath of a man is. Kane Hodder is the favourable actor who played as Jason Voorhees in the Friday the 13th movies and Freddy vs Jason, I choose Kane Hodder as a near perfect actor for the role as he is tall and can keep a silent character perfect. Also body language, he will be perfect for the character as he can move but he can also be brilliant at keeping chief stoic. Trust me, If you have ever watched any of the films that Jason Statham is in and Kane Hodder's Friday the 13th's then you can probably agree with my two choices. But about the film Idea, it again does not seem like Master Chief is not the main character of the franchise as he actually is. The game series is about him and his development as a character, and why do we need Miranda when we have Sgt Johnson? The issue with the Halo series was what they did to Chief and not making him the MAIN CHARACTER, the Halo series sucked for every reason you should know by now, such as: Helmet removal, Disrespect on Cortana, Master Cheeks and there is more screen time for the daughter hunting her father and a woman abducted by the covenant. You are making a similar mistake as Chief will again not be the main character. Who is at the front cover of every Halo game? CHIEF, who do you mostly play as in Halo? CHIEF!!! I am 17 turning 18 and I have been playing the series since Halo 3 as Halo 3 came out the same year I was born into this destroyed woke society we live in, and yes I have played almost every single Halo, From Halo CE through to Halo infinite. Don't believe me? I have played: 1. Halo 2 2. Halo CE 3. Halo 3 & (ODST) 4. Halo 4 5. Halo 5 Guardians 6. Halo Reach 7. Halo Infinite 8. Halo Waypoint 9. Halo Spartan Assault 10. Halo Wars 1 & 2 In the span of 15 years I have played these and grown up with them, and 3 / 10 of these games do not have Master Chief as a main character. And Halo is well known and remembered because of Master Chief, we all grew up as Master Chief and we all died as Noble Six. It is not hard to keep the story the same as the games, It might seem boring but the games is literally already a entire movie script. Not hard. But what are your thoughts on the movie or if you do not have one, what do you agree or disagree?
I think it's just that what the people want is a 1:1 recreation of either the books or the game; when directors are given this and told to make it reality, it's like telling an artist to "re-paint" the Mona Lisa 1:1 in the exact style, exact strokes, etc. Inherently, it's a menial task but also highly restrictive to the director which makes it an unattractive job. Also various aspects of Halo are owned by so many different entities to where the director is going to have a million people telling them what to do and what is needed. These combined factors alone make an accurate adaptation almost impossible.
Alan Ritchson (Reacher) as Master Chief would go hard. You wouldn't need Steve Downes anyways if he can't make it as the voice, so Alan Ritchson really fills that deep cold militaristic cyborg voice as Master Chief. Angelina Jolie wearing the classic Cortana look from Combat Evolved would work perfectly imo, but I wouldn't know who to fill her shoes with if not AJ.
I'd rather have the marines with the Chief be the growth characters. Miranda seems shoe horned in, in your pitch. There are plenty of marines that were interesting in Halo CE. Just use them, make it a war movie that turns to a horror film halfway through, like the game.
This would be a neat proposal for another series, but it does not suit Halo. A young lady's need to prove herself to her father, find romance, act of her own accord, etc. reads like something by Austen or a Bronte sister. Halo is far more suited to the style of Storm of Steel by Junger and The Old Man and the Sea by Hemingway highlighting the bond of brotherhood shared by soldiers and mankind's unyielding perseverance and resilience. The protagonist should be an unnamed Marine with at least Mendoza, Dubbo, and Stacker being part of his squad where their battles mix with the Chief's and times where they don't along the ring.
@@jamesloder8652 Yeah, might be true. But the only thing I wasn't so convinced about was Jenkins and Miranda. And I mean, light me up, haven't thought on many things, and maybe I haven't gotten to think about what could go wrong
Terrible script. We don't need Miranda's love story. We don't even need Miranda keyes... we need chief and Cortina and cap Keyes. We don't want anymore strong independent women it's wayy overdone. We want chief in his helmet with no face reveal.
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Everyone always trashes on Miranda. Probably because her character was pretty bad in halo 3. But I've always felt it was a mistake to kill her off. Her character unites alot of stuff. Being the daughter of Halsey and keyes. Having a kind of dad figure in seargant johnson when she loses her father. Inheriting her fathers mission. You could even try to make a connection between master chief and her. Being that her mother created the spartans. Maybe she met john a couple times when they were kids. She knows who he is behind the helmet. Which would be more meaningful if all or most of the other spartans are dead
Thing is Miranda never got to play any role whatsoever in the story beyond being at the initiative of following Regret (which is something in itself, but not quite enough to justify her taking so much screentime then). Bungie had a promising character with the social intricacies she is as the center of, but she was kinda wasted, ending up as forgettable. She died before making any impact or before even displaying entertaining character (unlike Mercy for example, who had basically no initiative in the story but was at least displaying emotional and cultural drive needed to understand the harsh nature of Covenant social hierarchy structures), which is honestly a bit meh.
@robertstockton4497 there is absolutely no reason that Miranda would have met Spartans as a child. They were top secret military experiments, not children from another school.
Why everyone thinking of an adaptation of the Halo Lore into a movie/tv series have to change the story, characters, events happening in the original story? Why not keep the same story that already worked and built this universe and just focus on giving us the reality of how spartans operate that we cannot live in-game for playability issues? You know, like, how spartans are super fast, and if the game was like that it would need to be massive and we couldn't shoot anything at that speed?
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You NAILED IT!!
Thank you, Steve! It’s an honor to have your approval
Miranda is already an actual decorated war veteran at the time Reach fell. She is already has her own command. What the actual fuck mandates framing her as weak and not accustomed to combat? And she is not a mechanic, she is an officer. Her main skills to showcase are leadership skills, so why focus on her tinkering with stuff when she already has a whole crew to do that. She's supposed to be doing the jobs that people look up to her for; leading.
@@Gabdube sir its called a movie, it is for the people who don't play the games or read the books it builds background for the character and shows how she knows mechanics and can get chief out of his pod like he explained like 2 minutes later
117 himself
Woah the CHIEF commented? I'm watching it
I might've cooked a bit too much with this choice, but Jamie Foxx as Sergeant Johnson...? Just watch his performance in Jarhead and tell me he wouldn't be a solid pick.
That’s a fantastic pic, I can see it now! Also hit me up sometime, would love to collaborate! Big fan of your videos
Or just cast David Scully, the guy who actually voices Johnson. He's got some movie acting experience and he's only 49, probably a good age for Johnson on screen
Jamie would be fucking solid. Especially since they would be around the same age right now
They could cast the guy that was advanced warfare
Sgt. Carmack.
Laper Larden and themeaninginbetween collab would be fire.
If the reboot doesn't need something, it is a romance between Miranda and Jenkins.
Ya I think one of the major issues with modern action movies is there always seems to be a need for a romantic subplot no matter how forced it may be.
Besides, Jenkins had a sad enough story and redemption in Halo anyways without having to force someone who was on the Luna colony to be somewhere they weren't.
Amongt other things. I'm sorry but bro (Something In-between) did NOT cook this time
@@Lateraldamage I mean idc if Halo has romance cause its not the main focus of the story, its just that Master Cheeks slept with a covenant spy😭💀. Mf is the saviour of Humanity, a hero😭FOR HUMANITY, Master Cheeks hates humanity for no reason too.
The only romance this show needs, and the only ones that it has time for or makes sense, is the weird tension between chief and cortana, the love between Johnson and that one Elite, and the love a grunt has for the food nipple back at the ship.
@@flarezona9889 Idc either if it's done well but most now are not and there isn't any romantic tension in Halo 1 or the book so it has to be very well done or it's not much better than any other fan fic or the silver timeline.
As you said it's not the main focus of the story, but love wasn't really the focus of any of the original trilogy(other than maybe Cortana).
It's been awhile so if you have any contradictory info I'm all ears.
All halo needs to win:
- Big green tank man go brrrt.
- Small, mostly naked blue ai woman be snarky
- Mouthy marine with a cigar fetish go snipey snipey & would have been your daddy, but the dog...
- large lizard man go wort wort wort and arrrrghhh wuubaduugh!
- alien popcorn go pop
- Warthog go vroom
- Grunts go boom
- Ring goes kaboom
- Longsword goes zoom
- Big green tank man is just getting started
- roll credits
- post credit alien grabass scene
It's not that hard peeps.
Exactly this. The first Halo book and game are essentially a 1:1 for cheif's story and has a decently enough flushed out side story for relief. Would only make sense for Halo's adaptation to Cinema to be the same.
@@otacon8790 how about including some Mobuto goodness too
Literally the perfect Halo movie.
Also alien pop corn nomnom
If you want people with stories showing faces halo 3 odst could work too
Miranda is a fantastic character... But not like this. The Mandalorian showed that the strong silent type can work as a protagonist. Chief can be strong and quiet (not silent), Johnson is excellent comedic relief, and Jacob Keyes is a great hero character. Not only that, but Thel Vadamee is a fantastic villian angle.
Introduce Miranda in the first movie, then really flesh her out in the second. Not the other way around.
By the time the third movie comes, we'd be as excited to see where Chief, Arbiter, Miranda, and Johnson go as we were to see where Luke, Han, Leia, and Chewbacca end up in their third movie.
Mando is NOT the guy you go to for an example of strong silent MC.
I feel like Chief or any Spartan really (in the show) should be shown in this perspective kind of thing, like don't make the camera revolve around or focus on him if that makes sense like mainly make it how others see him and stuff to really sell his legendary status but he still emotes and he still subtly shows his train of thought running or something like that. And then if they have a scene where he is alone or feels alone like in the Library or the underground place in the Guilty Spark level, then we focus on his perspectives to sell his depth as a character. Its kind of like a plot twist but mainly cinematographically? I was just thinking about in the games, you play as Chief right? Everything seems smaller than you, but if you really read or think about it, something like Grunts are actually similar in height to the average human.
Underrated comment. This is important.
Unintentionally racist Johnson and Chewbacca comparison?
@@ErikGalactic”Unintentional Han and Sanghelios comparison” grow up bro
I reallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreally want Nolan to do Halo.
I wish Neill Blomkamp got to do Halo. Halo Landfall was so perfect & it could only be cooler now.
Nah blade runner 2049 director Denis
@@SuspenceF00L_Gaming I think Blompkamp and Denis would be great, too, but Im assuming that the rumors
That Chris loved Halo are true. In which case, I think Id rather take Chris’s innate passion for the series over anything else.
@@Corranhorn122 if that’s the case then we will get a very watered down version of the Halo universe. Nolan doesn’t tread into the R rated territories, he bares close but never fully embraced it. I’d much rather see Denis make a film centered around chief and him maybe getting like 10 -20 lines in the whole 3 hr film.
@@Corranhorn122 there was a time where Spielberg Neil and Peter Jackson were attached to the original film saga. I’d like to see a collaboration of Denis and Chris though . Neil could just do visual and practical .
the second master cheeks took his helmet off i knew the show was done for, especially for the fans
Yea, the moment that happened I turned it off xD Even I'm talking to much threw me
Really? Knowing that the people involved hadn't even played the games wasn't enough?
@@Notevenallowedtoburnwood i lied to myself even knowing the writers had no interest in halo previously, i still hoped.
Chris Pratt as Cortana
He's so cool
Wahoo! Here we go Master Cheeks!
Better idea than this script.
Billie Eilish as Master Chief and Ryan Gosling as Sgt Johnson
Jack Black as Cortana.
Hard disagree on Miranda being so important to the plot especially in the first movie. You set her up as a minor character in the first one who speaks with her father so it has weight when he is killed because of the flood. The relationship between Cortana and chief should be more fleshed out than any other since it’s a movie that should be focused on Master Chief. The marines serve well enough to move the story along. Needless side character interaction (as well as the massacre of Chief as a character) is what killed the tv series.
Hard agree, can't upvote this comment enough. Then let her blossom into the badass she is in the follow up movie.
Right.
Miranda is a talented ship commander in her own right. Let her excel at what she excels at. Don't needlessly insert her.
This guy is making all the mistakes the other show did.
Honestly "the flood" novel is mostly perfect for adapting into a screen play, don't know why they can't just do that.
They act like Johnson does not exist
“Audience needs a human character they can relate too”
I really don't like the idea of a romance with Sgt Jenkins. Keyes doesn't need it, and it's VERY off limits in the military to date in your chain of command.
Miranda also should absolutely not be on the same ship as her father when he finds the first halo. She very explicitly was not there, and that's a huge part of her ACTUAL growth arc of living up to her father's legacy in Halo 2/3.
I also really dislike Miranda starting out as weak as she does in your script. She's not just a regular person, she's a ranking officer in the UNSC. She's literally a proven leader
Yeah...this guy seems more like a Tourist of Halo rather than a fan. If he is a fan hes not a very observant one.
I think he's moreso trying to write it where it would be a good mix of outsider (non fan) appeal and fan appeal
@@PsychoMoFoGamingthat's quite an illogical leap to make. You can disagree with him without dismissing his fandom and topic of his entire channel.
@@Nichrysalis youre not the one to talk about an illogical leap lol not when i talk about stickly him ,and what i gather from this specific video, and you try to say i criticized the entire fandom lol
Idk about his channel idk what the rest of his channel has to do with the video.
@nick11crafter but that's not what we need. An outsider would follow a well written halo movie or show and fall in love with it as we did the games.
RDJ doing his tropic thunder performance as sgt. Johnson would be gold
RDJ?
@@ProphetoftheToblerone5048 Robert Downey Jr. In Tropic Thunder he was: the dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude.
@@barsthehippie i really don’t think we need a blackface johnson…
@@sightseek3r Who else read that in the tropic thunder voice?
@@justjane_musicwe do
Honestly, I have to massively disagree on inserting Miranda into the story like that. Also Miranda isn't a child or weak at all, she's an officer in the UNSC, not the sort of person to not be used to combat by any means.
It just doesn't feel necessary when Cortana is already there and goes through her own arc over the course of the original trilogy herself, she is that emotional mirror to the Chief, she is smart, has the girl boss energy and also plays a very large role in the story as a female co-star to Chief.
You've made a solution looking for a problem with writing in Miranda into the story from CE, she also wouldn't be present on her fathers ship, it would also be against military code for her to have a relationship with an enlisted member when she herself is a officer in the naval command structure.
There's so many characters like SGT Johnson for example that you could pick as what essentially would be a third co-lead/co-star, since Cortana already fits that role, that could be included instead of Miranda that would fit the role much better lore and story wise.
Agreed, honestly if you really wanted both romance and accuracy you may be better off making 4 movies, movie one from Halsey's perspective as narrator about Reach and perhaps Chief's Childhood and Miranda's, movie 2 from Keye's perspective as Narrator, up until his death, at which point perhaps the film goes "silent film/hybrid" making key use of Cortana for voice lines on occasion but otherwise thriving on music and sound alone.
Three being narrated by Miranda and more closely following Chief than the Arbiter.
4 being a spinoff like Letters from Iwa Jima, possibly being told narratively by Sergeant Johnson and leaving the Arbiter and Sangheli as translated subtitles going over Arbiter's H2 and 3 experience.
Then 5 being told through Halsey, Miranda, and Cortana's narration, the story of Chief's H3, with the narrator being hopeful about the remaining characters as Halsey, fearful yet determined as Miranda, then confused, unreliable, and damaged as Cortana.
Edit: I clearly forgot, the "romance" in 1-3 would be Halsey/Keyes, and the subtext of both characters place in the story would be "legacy" and "hope" through Chief, Miranda, and Cortana.
props to the guy who left that script buried in the woods
They should've left it there
I don’t think Miranda should be the person to give personality to the movie at least in the first movie I think Johnson should be the character to do that and I don’t think he needs to be weak, this would work because his death in 3 was so impactful imagine how a well written move would make it feel
Sgt Johnson can have a little guilt for not being able to save his marines as a treat and character building
22:08 If Steve Downes wouldn't be down to do it, you couldn't go wrong with Henry Cavill, he's nerdy enough to actually give a shit about the source material and being faithful to it.
And he's huge lmao, if not john 117 it's be cool to see him as ANY other spartan
I picture Cavil as Kurt tbh (the real trainer of the Spartan 3's) @@KegaB3
@@CustodianVirgilKurt’s got green eyes though
@@brandonmiller9155 I don't think eye color is a big deal
@@brandonmiller9155 hurt is also 7ft tall and asian
I have a myriad of problems with this, most importantly Miranda should NOT be in the library at all. Miranda should stay with Cortana at the control room and be the one to call out guilty spark for planning to kill all organic life when chief returns.
how about no. Lets stay close to the books
@@jackgrove4621 See "myriad of problems with this" it's obvious Miranda being on the ring is dumb to begin with, but a normal human surviving the library is straight up laughable.
It's pretty obvious the creator of this video never read the flood, as it fills in the "human story" he's reaching for just fine.
@@jackgrove4621 i dont think u have to stay close to the books , just respect the source material. but the guy obviously needs to do a little more research in the series. like sgt johnson should be immune to the flood for one example.
@@austinftwXD Well... There was that one dead marine who almost did it
@@huntclanhunt9697 yes, but it can be assumed that there wasn't anywhere near as many corpses to feed the flood at the time he had went in. All of those elite and human corpses weren't on the ring for hundreds of thousands of years.
While I want this to do well, I’m really not sure about bringing Miranda in as someone chief needs to babysit.
Also giving the important parts of what master chief did to Miranda doesn’t sit right with me at all, chief succeeded with those impossible tasks because he is the master chief.
Ideally, Miranda should be out of Chief's hair entirely in Halo 2 & 3 and just doing her own plot thread away from him. I figure the entire reason he felt the need to include her in Halo 1 is so that there's some more natural connective tissue to the beginning of Halo 2 at the award ceremony.
My big suggestion for Halo 1 would be that if Miranda is going to be the main character going through a big arc in these three films, then she needs to do so at the start away from Chief with some of the marines (this also makes the loss of the marines more impactful, as well as it gives us a POV of the marines being captured during the second mission before Chief comes and saves them). Then she could link up with Chief during the flood attack and accompany him for the rest of the film (and it'd feel a lot less forced, we could say Halsey had been avoiding Cortana as much as she could until that point due to being based on Halsey), but before then, she should play support if she's an engineer.
I think the big issue this guy is overlooking is that Chief does need to be a focal point character in this, even if he's not really a character with an arc in these films. He basically serves the same role as other flat arc characters like Goku. He still needs to be THE important character that drives the plot forward. By comparison, Miranda would basically be filling a Gohan type role in this analogy, the only difference being that Miranda dies in the third film.
@@four-en-tee while I didn’t understand the dragon ball references I get what you’re saying. I still feel that making chief the main character we follow (while cutting away occasionally similar to halo: the flood) is the best choice. Miranda doesn’t have a place in halo 1, I understand why he included her but I disagree that it’s a good idea.
I genuinely disagree with this. Focusing this much on Miranda in a show about chief is bound to have the same problem as the show did
Was Frodo the only focus of LOTR or did other characters play even more prominent roles for large swaths of the films?
@@orielsy Except that the Miranda he proposes breaks the canon completely, it just turns her into a damsel in distress essentially, instead of her already being a decorated war hero with command over her own ship (the in amber clad) DURING the fall of reach.
@@rayv98kagree
@@rayv98kI feel like the chief is not a movie character. If you want a halo movie follow another spartan or preferably ODST’s
I hole hardily disagree with Miranda being the focus or even in CE at all, considering she is on Luna during the events of CE. Having Miranda in CE breaks the story Bungie laid out and ruins any future events that focus on her in H2 and H3. Like her first seeing Delta Halo and saying, "So this is what my father found."
The Premise though I like, But have Chiefs partner be Johnson or either a marine or ODST that we know survives to the book First strike! You have the serious silent warrior (Chief) and then the comedic soldier everyone loves. Sure it alters some significant events, but nowhere near as drastically as having Miranda present. This leaves it so, in Johnson's case, he can take the lead in H2 with Miranda and her squad when they raid Delta Halos Library without Chief or his lines in New Mombasa, "Stick with the Chief, he'll know what to do" be all the more impactful.
Ultimately though, regardless of any significant changes like that, the story NEEDs to stay the same. Like the LotR example you used, Bungie gave us a perfect story that dosent need huge changes to narratively adapt or fit to live action. Even without a sidekick, Chief on his own or with just Cortana can absolutely be done, just look at Mandalorian for example.
Exactly.
zero views in 24 seconds, bro is quite honestly doing fine.
Show your friends.
These comments are so annoying
@@josephsorensen3960 i am making fun of them, whatchu mean
@@SSYX336 it’s only adding to the cancer. Just stop it.
@@josephsorensen3960 get a load of this guy, 0 likes in 32 minutes, bro fell off
If CE is to be remade, a Band of Brothers-esque retelling of it is the best route. On-the-ground storytelling from the men and women who were there!
Halo, especially CE, is steeped in 1990's grungy sci-fi in the Aliens tradition. This should be leaned into - essentially (like the game) setting up a heroic action flick with bravado and some camp, then delving into horror, and ending with the bittersweet sacrifice and struggle of destroying the Ring.
Focus (again, like the game) should be on-the-ground action, but more of the characters should be fleshed out, but they can still remain the plucky and determined rogue's gallery that the UNSC Marines always were! This makes the slow attrition and their eventual deaths one-by-one more and more impactful! Chief, like all spartans, should be an asocial freak, a weapon... he probably won't be in many scenes except to deliver one-liners, act as a vessel of overwhelming force in key scenes, and otherwise be detached and often absent as the film goes on (doing other missions away from the marines)
Halo is about humanity, so the film should represent humans' tenacity in the face of existential threat. The marines may falter, but they never lose hope in the grand scheme. Halo is hope.
Even if Chief's helmet does come off it needs to be done the way it's done in almost all Halo Media, you see either little to nothing or just the helmet with it teasing.
Now I will feel empty until this movie comes out. Thanks
1:19 the Halo community is too adjusted to getting shot in the back
And then t-bagged by the producers/writers/etc
I'm sure it'll end up being better. As the man himself once said. "It's not hard improving on garbage." We shall see where this goes.
yeah but he said that when my time was under 30 seconds :(
An Interstellar style Halo show would be incredible
After all this, I just have one question...
Who is Dustin Echoes?
the schizophrenic delusion we call a Co-Op partner.
Probably a friend of Dunnhier
I really dont think focusing so much on miranda and changing so many things about the original story would work, miranda just seems like a bitchy child and this might kill the chance to make a sequel where she is a badass due to the first movie, thw studio would actually have to commit to the 3 movies and their scripts before they actually make the first one
Unfortunately due to "the message" of esg and dei this is the only way to ensure it even happens.
@@Gl0ckb1te "the message" of ESG and DEI?
@@Gl0ckb1te huh?
Making her repeatedly incompetent and rash is such a mistake yeah. Unlikeable protagonist 101
@@32BitJunkie that's exactly what I'm saying, I understand that in the long run she could turn out to be better, just look at Ahsoka from Clone Wars, that was the whole point at first, but in this case you'd be taking an already shakey franchise, doing a movie on it which would be extremely likely to bomb at the box office due to every single thing leading up to now when it comes to Halo. After all that, you randomly take a Halo 2 character, shove them in a Halo 1 retelling, make them act like a child, no disciple whatsoever, despite being the daughter of a highly decorated navy captain, an extremely important scientist/genius and after going through basic training and at least some action herself, how does any of that work? How does someone who would be raised in wartime, be something of a genius herself, choose to follow in her father's footsteps without already having been taught, understanding and respecting the military lifestyle? It just makes no damn sense to me, the way I see it, if the person grows up in a military family and they decide to follow in their footsteps, by the time they've made that decision, the time for rebellion is over.
You went off the rails the second you introduced Miranda as a main character. The magic of the Bungie Halo trilogy was the lone wolf aspect of the games. Master Chief works best when he's on his own. Supporting characters like Miranda, Johnson, Jacob Keyes and even Guilty Spark add to his character through their interactions. The girl boss trope had long run it's course. If you are going to go back to the roots of Halo, go all in. Bet on the man himself. The iconic spartan 117. I'm not saying you don't understand Halo. It's evident you are truly a fan of the series and it's lore, but the lore needs to be honored, not altered. Miranda isn't even introduced until Halo 2. She wasn't even present during the events on Installation 04. A good movie, or series of movies would be able to fit nicely into the existing story line without any wiggling. THIS is what the true fans of Halo really want. Breaking from the lore is what turned off the fans to Paramount show to begin with. Clearly, the feel of what Halo truly represents is lost on you. It is perfectly encapsulated on the back of the original Xbox game's box. No offense meant by this. I love the creatively. For what it's worth, your pitch is MUCH better than what we got. Keep the ideas coming!
"This is how we should tell Master Chiefs story." Proceeds to take all the focus off of chief and give away half his most iconic lines.
You cant make a film about that though. You can't have this stoic, silent soldier as the main character, and still make the movie have any emotional depth. It works fine in the games because 95% of the time you're actively playing in combat which is entertaining, but it wouldn't work trying to tell that story through film. You need character development and resolution, not just a 2.5 hour long Master Chief cutscene montage. Chief needs to be a major-side character in the first films and become more and more important as they progress, eventually becoming the main character when it comes down to him being the ONLY one left, and at that point it can just be all combat scenes. Chief doing what Chief does. One final push to save humanity, after Keyes and Johnson are dead. But that should only happen in the third film and for only like the last 45 minutes, and until then he needs to just remain a fan-favorite side protagonist for the first two films.
@@GoofysBandit There already is a major side character, Cortana.
Exactly! Have Cortana and Chief play off each other. Say what you will about Halo 4, but their dynamic was perfect in that game. Exposition and storytelling don't have to rely on words and conversation. Look at movies like "A Quiet Place." Chief being Chief is all that is needed. You can still be a 3-dimensional character without speaking constantly. Deviating from the core story of Combat Evolved is the last thing a "good" Halo film needs. Over thinking what should be included to make a good movie is the reason adaptations of video games have been so hit or miss. In most cases, miss. If you are going to add anything to the story to make it more interesting, dive a little more into Johnson's character. We already know he plays a big roll later in the series and since he actually was present on the ring in Halo 1, why not expand a bit on his time there? Between Captain Keyes, Johnson, Cortana, Spark and all the random marines Chief interacts with, there is no reason good storytelling can't happen without altering the lore. K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid! At the end of the day, fans just want a faithful adaptation. It doesn't need to be so complex.
@@GoofysBandit wow, you went all black or white. so there is no possible way anyone could make this work? gotcha!
2:37 nope, I’d say that’s perfectly fair. If anything, you went easy on ‘em
5:27 I need to point out that was Besenti, not Jenkins who wanted better rock.
The main problem I have with Miranda staying with chief is that, if they arent driving vehicles, chief will be moving around the ground at like 5x the speed that Miranda can manage and for 10x the time.
You have some great skills in putting these videos together. The editing, production value, your articulation vocally, etc… glad to be here before your channel really blows up my friend!
It's absolutely not how I'd do it but I like it.
My issue is, introducing the flood in a first movie would leave very little wriggle room. I feel like the first film should be more about why Mjolnir armour was produced in the first place. So, movie 1 is Spartans vs humans and introducing the covenant. Movie 2 is the war with the covenant and the introduction of the Flood. And movie 3 is about resolving the issue with the Flood.
You're forgetting this is what they did in the games, and it worked well. For a potential Halo 2 after Halo 1 introduces the Flood, instead of outright mentioning it they could allude to it. This could help build tension so new viewers would have a slow buildup, while returning fans would have a slow hype buildup.
I've certainly not forgotten. I even appreciate it, as any Halo fan should. But I think it's important for there to be some focus on the narrative happenstance of humanity having something to defend themselves against the Covenant; the Spartans. That's where the story depth comes from. If there was no insurrection there'd be no need for Spartans, and the Human/Covenant war would be over pretty quickly. That backstory needs at least 45 minutes of screen time. Master Chief and Avery Johnson deserve their characters to be given weight and depth so that the casual watcher, as you mentioned, can attach to them. Why would a casual care about Dr Halsey otherwise? All that is meant to come before we get to the Covenant or even to the Halo installation, but it can be done in half or 2 thirds of a film.
Imagine watching as the sounds of the first sirens ring out as the Covenant find Harvest, and the human colony goes into mass panic on screen. Imagine Master Chief seeing a video of that from worlds away, unable to do anything about it. You'd give up high levels of emotional response and character reasonings to jump straight into the story of CE? Most people barely care about wars happening on the other side of our planet, so you understand that you've got to make character's reasons for fighting more personal. I believe that requires backstory.
What I'd actually do is play out the intro from CE in mostly the same way until it's time to wake the Master Chief. As he's asleep, you can go right into the flashback for the bulk of the story to be told, ending, of course, with the Master Chief in cryostasis, and the Pillar of Autumn cruising towards the Halo construct as Captain Keyes makes his famous plea "Cortana, all I need to know is did we lose them." with Cortana replying "I think we both know the answer to that." Then the credits finally roll. Just like in Halo Reach. The Flood? That comes later.
I'm not sure if I prefer this over CE's story. There were many different directions to take in order to have a 3D character with the chief and have them have a secondary plot, like Johnson. With him, you can even still do the whole "love story" thing with Foehammer.
I personally prefer Miranda being a mature grown-up character, because it better represents her need for perfection and wanting to live up to her father's legacy, and more notably, her mother. You also can't forget that she's a commander of a ship. She doesn't just work on a multi-million dollar ship when it's weapons go down. Adding the fact that she basically grew up without her father, and while her mother still cared for her - she's Halsey - she's got more important things to do, so Miranda taught herself to be independent, and all of her naval knowledge was self-tought. It would also be a weird character shift from being well known as "the ballsiest officer in the fleet" to an desperate, immature little girl who craves validation from her father.
Miranda shouldn't be in this film, at least not on Halo. Your version strays too far from the story's simple perfection in my opinion.
I also feel like the master chief is less of a main character in this. While he is mastef chief and he's quiet and all, he isn't a pushover nor is he mute, he's a commanding figure and still quite intimidating. Infinite's version should be the basis of his character.
I also prefer how Jenkins' plot was handled in The Flood, with him seeming more heroic, while still letting us feel his agonising pain. Jenkins' story was incredibly sad and was genuinely one of the most emotional things I'd ever read. I think that story should be left well enough alone.
Agreed! I disagree on Chief being akin to his Infinite appearance, though; I'd argue the cold and almost eery nature of Spartans from the lore should be leaned into! Spartans are asocial freaks!! :)
"Infinite's version should be the basis of his character." Was when you lost me
I feel like this version of Miranda would be very tiring to watch
@@nagger8216 Lol yeah we need that classic
Halo is a legendary movie trilogy waiting to happen given that its done by people who actually love Halo, have the skill and the money
And with a perfect prequel
REACH
the halo show we deserve is sodaz's remember short film
I recommend reading the book “Halo the flood” sense it does add more dialogue regarding to chief then what was shown in the first game
4:13 Perfect spot for the siege of madrigal to be played.
Dude That'd Be So impactful
should totally have the alien directors from romulus on this project for SURE
I disagree with this script. Way too much focus on Miranda. I believe the best cinematic version of Halo would focus on Master Chiefs journey on reach and on halo rings but with flashbacks and references to his past showcasing his upbringing, memories, lost comrades etc. More focus on the behind the scenes of the war, spartan program, chiefs human side but without revealing too much at once.
MC is too much of a blank slate character. He needs a human element
I think the focus on Miranda would be good because if you think about Miranda, she has almost no story throughout all of the halo games
@@austin0_bandit05
Well, yeah, I’m sure they could let him out a little bit the way they did doing a backstory between how he was picked for the spartan program maybe even a little short of him, ringing the bell
Or my favorite from the younger years of when he stalled the pelican
@@scooby91981 I think that's why Miranda is a good choice for bringing in the human element. Master Chief isn't a person so much as he is an archetype. Similar to the Greek hero of myth they're vague embodiments of qualities.
@@austin0_bandit05 literally why? Is being stoic and a good soldier not human enough?
Picks for cast:
Jen should play Halsey - Her special range just cannot be replicated
Grab Scar Jo for Miranda - She has got the best track record of learning to combat evolve
Andrew Garfield as Jenkins - A great actor for a green marine
Kostner for Keys - He's got the attitude and look
Steve - You'll do great
Steve Downs plays chiefs voice. Anyone could play the body because helmet never comes off
Andrew Garfield in the UNSC? That would be epic!
nah Scar-Jo for miranda sounds pretty awful imo. I prefer the first girl he pitched in the video
Couldn't possibly do better than Kostner for Captain Keys. Such a great casting choice
@@BigWhiskey09 Dam, that's a good pick, I didn't think about him, my choices were between Julian McMahon and Jason Clarke, this is going also by look alike from the Halo Reach version of Keys
Uh, where's Sgt Johnson?
A side character in the first film i guess. Just make sure you give him a lot of memorable one-liners and badass moments and you've got Johnson pretty much set. Also, he definitely still needs to die fighting Guilty Spark come Halo 3. Beyond that, maybe he plays as Miranda's love interest in 2 and 3 and further develops in those films to fill Miranda's shoes once she's killed (y'know, at least until he dies; that sets Chief up for the warthog run sequence and the ending on the Forward Unto Dawn).
Ideally: Miranda is the protagonist of 1 and 2, and Johnson is the protagonist of 3. That way if we do commit to a Halo 4 years later to cap the movies off with, Chief can be the protagonist and we can tell the rampancy story while cleaning up the forerunner lore. And then you end the movies there. The hardest part of writing a story is knowing when it needs to end, and 4 is a great place to end Chief's story if you don't end it with 3.
Replaced with Jenkins. Pvt Johnson's going to get whacked by the flood.
God this was an awful script.
Busy getting to know what the ladies like
Wow what a good video. I never thought about making Miranda the character the audience grows with so that Chief can be who he always is. This deserves way more views!
Another problem with your idea Miranda is an anchor and the problem with Halo is the speed of the story!
A successful halo with be a speedrun of CE not a paired up character arc
I would use Pvt. Jenkins instead of Miranda as the 3 dimensional character. He would be the likeable, relatable character which would make his death more impactful but also show how bad the flood is by being able to follow his dying like in the book The Flood. It would also add to the horror vibes when following the Chief because you wouldn't have Jenkins banter in the background anymore. You could focus on the ambient sounds, the squelching of the Flood, the Chief's boots on the deck, the echo of gunfire, dripping of fluids, etc.
Definitely gonna join the chorus of voices saying Miranda on the same ship as her father in CE doesn't make much sense.
But definitely save her from the disgraceful death in Halo 3.
this just put some hope in my heart that halos legend will live on and grow in a healthy way
Miranda isint strong enough to bust someones skull in soo that part wouldnt work
She could just shoot him. We all know the power of the ce magnum
To be fair, the skin was rotting. It and the bones might have been soft enough for a punch to break the skin.
That's only a might, though.
Fall of Reach movie with a Chief end credits scene to tease at a CE movie, that'd be insane
It’s something, I don’t love it but it’s something.
the only addition i would make to this is include some of the scenes from the novelization of the game, there are some very good scenes in there that fill in a lot of gaps and explained things the game left out which really flesh out the plot.
The Halo movie case looks bloody perfect!!
I appreciate that dude! Took awhile to get it right, but I’m glad you like it!
Making Miranda’s attachments and relationships across the characters in the halo universe that were (almost) all actually present within the game - the forefront of the emotional aspect in the film is a great idea. Chief definitely needs some solo screen time and missions throughout, though. She can’t be his FOIL the whole time and be ever-present, because it would take away from his own accomplishments I think
Dude this video was incredible. I listened to your script idea while working an autopilot task and it’s like I was literally there in the movie, I got emotional (because it’s not real)
@@ally1602-k7k this script was bad
@@jamesloder8652
It’s cool to have your own opinion and make sure everyone hears it 🤷🏻♂️
@@ally1602-k7k yes
Amazing video! I also loved your point about it being similar to Peter Jackson’s LOTR trilogy.
I would love for the movie to open with a brief history of the war, flashbacks of planets being glassed, populations being decimated, and then cutting to the fall of reach. Similar to the monologue we got in the opening of Fellowship.
I'm not against the idea of having Miranda be in a prominent role, I think that has the potential to be really interesting, why not have the focus be on Sargent Johnson instead? In the first game alone he's popping up all over the place as he's involved in first meeting up with Chief on the ring, with rescuing Captain Keys and the surviving command crew from the Truth and Reconciliation, was part of the Captain Key's squad that went looking for the weapons cache that turned out to be the Flood (so he was at ground zero, a pretty Sgt. Johnson thing to experience imo), and also escaped Halo before it exploded. So much space for storytelling in those scenes alone, not to mention the ones we never see in game.
Also there's already a canonical reason why Johnson is able to survive the Flood without an environment suite on like Chief, since he was part of the ORION Project. Aka the project that later became the Spartan program that created Master Chief. That could set up a really interesting dynamic with Chief and Johnson as you can tell they both very strongly respect and trust each other and you see that grow throughout the games. For example, at the end of Halo 3 Chief literally gives Johnson Cortana to activate the unfinished Installation 04 on the Ark. That's some amazing trust Chief's showing by handing over Cortana so easily to him after everything that's happened.
Chief and Johnson have a fantastic dynamic in Halo 2 and 3 so it could be a fun area to explore that dynamic/friendship throughout the events of Combat Evolved as it seems Johnson is one of the few people Chief trusts to get the job done without question, and that's so satisfying to see a friendship like that be tested and strengthened. Also Johnson is a very vocal person, a great counterpart to Chief's stoic and quite demeanor. He could bring to a movie the right balance of humor, badassery, and space horror that the original Halo trilogy has without disrespecting the source material.
I feel like Sargent Johnson would be the best choice tbh
I think the Chief and Cortana relationship is the best in the series. It’s like later in The Witcher books when you realize Geralt has a genuine love for Yennifer that transcends the Wish.
No more useless crappy romantic sub plots. A subtle one between chief and Cortina is the maximum acceptable...
More people need to see and share this video. Some fantastic thoughts and inspiration here. I hope the next show/movies follow suit of a story of this nature.
Most adaptations today can be described as:
Necromancers promised to resurrect the thing you love most only to cast animate dead and parade the bloated corpse in front of you only to be confused about why you're horrified at the desecration of the thing you used to love
to expand on your idea of a trilogy i’d suggest the first movie being more of a prequel type setup from project osiris introducing sgt johnson, young chief being kidnapped and trained in the spartan 2 program to spartan 3’s and the fall of reach, ending on the autumn finding halo, this allows a quality product that respects lore and can introduce new fans to the actual story.
the second movie can basically be halos 1-3 which would work cus it would cut out hours of combat gameplay, maybe sprinkle in some odst shit,
and the finale can take place instead of the 343 stories starting on the forward unto dawn with new storywriting but better than halos 4, 5, and infinite, ending on master chief’s either retirement, sacrifice, or death, preventing any later reboots from fucking up the canon.
casting wise: steve and jen obviously
keith david is a must
josh brolin as keyes
i like your choice for miranda
and i saw someone said jamie foxx for johnson which im not against but if they could find a better fit that may be lesser known id be cool w it
and definitely get nathan fillion and maybe ron pearlman in there somewhere.
and i hope to god they put halfjaw in it
For clarity sake, I meant PVT Jenkins, not SGT Johnson. SGT Johnson will still be a part of the story just like in the game, and there is not a “romance plot” between Jenkins and Miranda, just subtle hints that they might be pretty close. Certainly no romance story lines like in the Halo show. The details of their relationship are up to the audiences imagination. This just makes his death that much more emotionally impactful.
Hope that clears things up!
might want to have pinned this lol
I believe that the whole Halo CE journey Chief should be with a team of a handful Mariens.
Chief, Miranda and some Marines escape from the ship and like in the games half of them Die because of the crash landing. Then you have Chief rescuing the Mariens like in the Games and making contact with Foehammer. From this part forward you have a big group of Soldiers with chief as Teamleader doing the stuff of the story and many of them die along the way due to the flood. Miranda getting more skilled, the less people are still alive. They find Sgt. Johnson along the way and in the end a handful Mariens destroy the pillar of autumn and escape with foehammer from the Ring so you have Chief, Miranda and Johnson in a Pelican or Longsword with some lucky dudes flying home…
Jenkins could be there from the beginning or they could find him with Johnson. He can also survive with them towards the end.
In that scenario every character can have his specific role in the Story.
Cortana telling them what to do and giving instructions and explaining why they have to do it instead of just leaving and saving themselves.
Master Chief leading the group in Combat and always making sure that they survive (this way you can show him as guardian angel for the humans -> humanity)
Miranda being frightened and “weak” at the beginning but learning from the interactions between the Mariens and therefore grows with them and becomes more important to the team the less are still living.
Sgt. Johnson when he joins the team becomes that mental support for the Mariens and the group to stay together and keep going whatever the odds. The Mariens just want to leave but Johnson is keeping them away from doing it.
Foehammer, You could even make be the same guy from Halo infinite (I wouldn’t recommend this decision because, you would have more female characters otherwise) but you don’t have to kill her of like in the game. She could still crash land but be rescued by the chief or the whole team and then she flies the Longsword.
Throughout the movie Chief should always be determined to leave no one behind and to do whatever is necessary. While the Mariens are desperate to save their lives. Chief could go alone and then always succeed but he never judges the other because of their fear and that there want to save their own lives.
Sgt. Johnson even not judging and just motivating them without being too aggressive, like we know him from the games!
This way you create a positive dynamic and an iconic Movie version of Master Chief who is a saviour and actually show it instead of just telling. You would also have a good message along the line of “if you’re stronger you have a greater responsibility to act and do good things” stuff like this!
You should have a handful of people survive. The main cast and some side characters maybe even Jenkins. So you have a cast for the next movie and you don’t have to RedCon the ending for Halo 2 if you show Johnson and some others surviving.
That would make the whole package for me and sell it for a greater audience!
…I guess 🤷🏻♂️😂
Couple of things could be interesting, you could make Miranda Foehammer (Echo 419) since she’s a mechanic it’d make sense that she’d be tuning up her own Pelican.
With Miranda being a focus, you could really play on this idea that it’s sibling fighting alongside each other as Halsey may be Miranda’s actual mom but the Spartans were truly Halsey’s children.
That feels... kinda pettier than Miranda's character?
Foehammer dies, so not a great plan.
Foehammer is too iconic to do that. I'd rather get the emotional payoff of her dying in the end than undercut her character by turning her into Miranda and allowing her to survive. Part of the great narrative of the game/books is howuch resistance humans put up only to fail in the end. Master Chief needs to be the only person we see getting off the ring. "Just dust and echoes" is such a great line and know others survive reduces its impact. Miranda adds nothing to the story overall (she would have a great character arc though) and would reduce the opportunities we get to see chief and Cortana bond.
Fair enough. Man, I just want halo to be an amazing IP again
I feel like the threat of the flood can’t be accurately portrayed if there’s other survivors. Chief investigating a missing fireteam that all died will introduce a horror element that I don’t think will be as effective if Miranda is there and also makes it out
The camera pans across an open field. A warthog easily glides through tall grass. Cut to a shot of the driver and a female passenger. The driver confidently repositions his hand on the steering wheel.
Cut to wide shot of a nondescript man and several marines standing beside a Pelican.
"Dr. Halsey. I'm ONI."
You could just do a Band of Brothers style series that follows Marines. Spartans and other recognizable characters make appearances, but it's about the Marines and their stories.
- Relatable characters.
- More writing freedom.
- Less CGI requirements.
- Facilitates easy world building.
this
Man I’m lovin the content, you gotta keep grindin puttin these videos out 👍
Man, I seriously got chills and goosebumps as you were reading that library scene with Jenkins dying. Excellent work👏👏👏
I don't think Miranda should be the main protagonist we have had so many female protagonists in Hollywood that are terrible that i know they would do the same to her.
Right now is indeed a bit of a bad moment. People have had enough of badly written female leads, so much so that they are likely to avoid watching movies with female leads wether or not they are indeed badly written.
Bit sad and unjust... But when the pendulum swings too much on one side, it has the momentum to swing hard in the other way.
just follow the framework and have her co-star the 2nd and 3rd movies
I have an idea for the TV show.
The idea is like halo legend or love death and robot, little stories with different characters.
We need to remember than halo is an different stores in the games and the books.
I always felt that killing Miranda was one of the biggest missteps in Halo 3, I get that it was done to ramp up the stakes but it felt weirdly cruel, like killing off both father and daughter, just didn't work for me. I really like giving her a much bigger role as well as actually getting to see her interact with her dad, something we never actually got in the games. If they wanted to do that scene I think keeping Foehammer alive so she could crash into the citadel feels more in line with her character than what's described with Miranda.
I never had any issue with her dying as well as her father, tragedy is not bad in itself.
What bugged me however is that she never got to play any real role in the story before she was killed. In a way it's not unrealistic: there are no protagonists in real life and war. But in a spectacular story such as Halo's first trilogy, I expected characters we see to play key roles there and here, but Miranda never really made an impact in the storyline beyond being at the initiative of following Regret in H2. Her character was also a bit bland in her depiction, which was something thankfully fixed in H2: Anniversary, where she seemed a bit more invested and less weirdly stoïc.
So what really bugged me after all, is that Miranda was more or less decorum, like Mercy as well. But even then, Mercy displayed way more character than Miranda.
Exactly. You can thank Marty for that.
He's great for music, but he was shit on story, the devs shouldn't have listened
to him.
L idea
@@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy Again, not convinced it was bad to make her die. What I think is the issue is that she wasn't used whilst she was alive. You gotta realize that she was dead weight for the entirety of H2 and H3, and therein lies the issue, not in her death.
@@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy70% of halo 2 story was Martys ideas lol almost every single of the most iconic moments where marties ideas lmao
I think this goes without saying, but master chief can't just be an emotionless extra. Just like Pedro Pascal as the Mandalorian; he needs to be able to show emotion through the armor at times when it is crucial.
I'm sorry no, this is having similar issues to the Paramount show. Changing what's already been established. Adding characters where they shouldn't be, having a romantic thing going. If you want to tell a different side of what happened in the first game, just do the novelization of Halo the Flood. Chief is in there, Cortana is in there in and out of the main story, but you get to see what all the other Marines and even the covenant are doing throughout the first games story. People need to stop trying to take what is canon and what is established and changing it or adding things that they feel would make it better or more artsy. Paramount writers wanted to do their own thing and look where that got us.
I appreciate the thought and work put into this story. If we want to do a Halo movie that has to do with Miranda and her backstory before Halo 2, then a lot of this could happen in that, just don't go injecting all this new stuff and story beats into what we already know and love.
I disagree that Miranda needs to be in the first film at all. I get it's for emotional connection or what not, but honestly I feel like her being shown on Cairo station at the end of the film as a little tease to the start of a second movie (i.e Halo 2 where she accepts the award for her father's sacrifice) would be much better.
I picture it as having the same shot of showing her name on her uniform like Captain Keyes at the start, before moving up to show her putting on her ceremonial cap in a private room before the award ceremony, mourning her father. Those of us who played the games know Captain Keyes is dead and this is his daughter, but it would be a better introduction for those who haven't played Halo before to show Keyes has a daughter.
It also still keeps that 'human'/emotional part of her in somewhat. Whilst we hear some cheering in the background of her scene (for Chief and Johnson), the scene of her mourning her father before the ceremony shows that in war, every casualty has an effect on someone, somewhere.
I’m sorry man but no, this isn’t what we’re looking for. It sounds like what would happen if Disney got their hands on the I.P. It also makes no sense. The whole point of Miranda’s story is that she DIDNT find the first ring, because she finds the second ring in halo 2 and that puts her on her own character arc. Halo doesn’t need helmetless heads or relatable human characters to work, and that’s not what the appeal is to people. The appeal of halo is the cool, cold, badass seven foot tall Spartan in green armour kicking ass and dropping cold af one liners while saving the galaxy. I also don’t see why Cortana is so underutilised in both your script and the halo tv show. Cortana is the ‘human’ character in halo. That’s the point. The machine is more man than the actual man. She’s more human than chief. She’s the one that does the talking and feels the emotions. Cortana is the one who conveys the emotional stakes to the player in the halo CE cutscenes, not chief. The story is about him and her, it always has been and always should be, it’s why it works.
Dude imagine this actually happening and marty getting to do the score. Also seeing the flood on screen would be fuckin great
I think that if Nolan were to make a Halo movie or trilogy... he is very well capable of playing with Chiefs childhood/origin throughout the movies. As Nolan loves to play with the concept of time in his movies. So he would keep Chiefs origins a mystery but would be revealing it through thw films conflicts.
Not saying it asnif something that I want jus something that I see Nolan doing just because
Seems like a lot of other commenters don't like the idea of Miranda being important, I think this is understandable because of how people tend to hijack characters of older IPs and try to make them outshine the old protag. But it can work!
I think the writing challenge with her is figuring out how she will complement Chief, since usually Cortana takes care of all the things that chief can't. It's hard to avoid making either cortana or miranda a somewhat useless accessory, which could be annoying. Maybe having Miranda have her own solo subplots as well as scenes together with Chief would balance the characters.
This would go so hard. I can only dream of a trilogy like this. Maybe one day..
I won't lie this is better then the original show. But Master Chirf should be the main character. This sounds good on paper but not on screens. I could see her playing big party in a halo 2 movie.
Honestly...let it die. Halo is best served as either A) animation [that way no one gets arrogant about having to show their faces, AND plenty of budget for boisterous, crazy action gore, and what people actually want from Halo...or B leave it alone. Its perfect as a game and book/graphic Novel series...
Personally, I have 2 actors in mind I think will be perfect for Master chief / John-117 himself:
1. Jason Statham, as he has incredible combat training and has insane knowledge for fight scenes that feel real, he is also good with head movement and fantastic body language which can be fantastic for chief. But I mainly think he would do better for Isaac Clarke for a Dead Space movie or series.
2. Kane Hodder, for anyone who does not know who this walking goliath of a man is. Kane Hodder is the favourable actor who played as Jason Voorhees in the Friday the 13th movies and Freddy vs Jason, I choose Kane Hodder as a near perfect actor for the role as he is tall and can keep a silent character perfect. Also body language, he will be perfect for the character as he can move but he can also be brilliant at keeping chief stoic.
Trust me, If you have ever watched any of the films that Jason Statham is in and Kane Hodder's Friday the 13th's then you can probably agree with my two choices.
But about the film Idea, it again does not seem like Master Chief is not the main character of the franchise as he actually is. The game series is about him and his development as a character, and why do we need Miranda when we have Sgt Johnson? The issue with the Halo series was what they did to Chief and not making him the MAIN CHARACTER, the Halo series sucked for every reason you should know by now, such as: Helmet removal, Disrespect on Cortana, Master Cheeks and there is more screen time for the daughter hunting her father and a woman abducted by the covenant. You are making a similar mistake as Chief will again not be the main character. Who is at the front cover of every Halo game? CHIEF, who do you mostly play as in Halo? CHIEF!!!
I am 17 turning 18 and I have been playing the series since Halo 3 as Halo 3 came out the same year I was born into this destroyed woke society we live in, and yes I have played almost every single Halo, From Halo CE through to Halo infinite. Don't believe me? I have played:
1. Halo 2
2. Halo CE
3. Halo 3 & (ODST)
4. Halo 4
5. Halo 5 Guardians
6. Halo Reach
7. Halo Infinite
8. Halo Waypoint
9. Halo Spartan Assault
10. Halo Wars 1 & 2
In the span of 15 years I have played these and grown up with them, and 3 / 10 of these games do not have Master Chief as a main character. And Halo is well known and remembered because of Master Chief, we all grew up as Master Chief and we all died as Noble Six. It is not hard to keep the story the same as the games, It might seem boring but the games is literally already a entire movie script.
Not hard. But what are your thoughts on the movie or if you do not have one, what do you agree or disagree?
Dude. Such a good pitch, better than the Paramount show for sure.
subbed! this is fantastic! the halo community is gonna eat this up
Jesus, why not just call the halo movie Miranda Keyes. Leave the master chief character and make it all about Miranda
I think what made Halo special is that it was an experience that couldn’t be replicated outside of games.
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I think it's just that what the people want is a 1:1 recreation of either the books or the game; when directors are given this and told to make it reality, it's like telling an artist to "re-paint" the Mona Lisa 1:1 in the exact style, exact strokes, etc. Inherently, it's a menial task but also highly restrictive to the director which makes it an unattractive job. Also various aspects of Halo are owned by so many different entities to where the director is going to have a million people telling them what to do and what is needed. These combined factors alone make an accurate adaptation almost impossible.
Alan Ritchson (Reacher) as Master Chief would go hard. You wouldn't need Steve Downes anyways if he can't make it as the voice, so Alan Ritchson really fills that deep cold militaristic cyborg voice as Master Chief. Angelina Jolie wearing the classic Cortana look from Combat Evolved would work perfectly imo, but I wouldn't know who to fill her shoes with if not AJ.
I want RDJ as Sgt Johnson
I'd rather have the marines with the Chief be the growth characters. Miranda seems shoe horned in, in your pitch.
There are plenty of marines that were interesting in Halo CE. Just use them, make it a war movie that turns to a horror film halfway through, like the game.
This would be a neat proposal for another series, but it does not suit Halo.
A young lady's need to prove herself to her father, find romance, act of her own accord, etc. reads like something by Austen or a Bronte sister.
Halo is far more suited to the style of Storm of Steel by Junger and The Old Man and the Sea by Hemingway highlighting the bond of brotherhood shared by soldiers and mankind's unyielding perseverance and resilience.
The protagonist should be an unnamed Marine with at least Mendoza, Dubbo, and Stacker being part of his squad where their battles mix with the Chief's and times where they don't along the ring.
Somebody give this man the rights
Your style is very personal and up-beat, I like it. Take your sub and carry on
This is too good to stay just as an idea
@@Blaster_ORemix it's bad
@@jamesloder8652 Nah, this is GREAT. I've seen bad and this here isn't it
@Blaster_ORemix we've all seen bad and this is also bad, just for different reasons. Calling this "great" is very much over selling it.
@@jamesloder8652 Yeah, might be true. But the only thing I wasn't so convinced about was Jenkins and Miranda. And I mean, light me up, haven't thought on many things, and maybe I haven't gotten to think about what could go wrong
Honestly the story sounds God awful, but I love your enthusiasm dude. Hopefully one day we'll get a good Halo movie
Terrible script. We don't need Miranda's love story. We don't even need Miranda keyes... we need chief and Cortina and cap Keyes. We don't want anymore strong independent women it's wayy overdone. We want chief in his helmet with no face reveal.
This is one of those videos I start playing on 2 screens to *make sure* it gets a higher view count! ;) | Now remember folks, get Christopher to see this! 😅
Everyone always trashes on Miranda. Probably because her character was pretty bad in halo 3. But I've always felt it was a mistake to kill her off. Her character unites alot of stuff. Being the daughter of Halsey and keyes. Having a kind of dad figure in seargant johnson when she loses her father. Inheriting her fathers mission. You could even try to make a connection between master chief and her. Being that her mother created the spartans. Maybe she met john a couple times when they were kids. She knows who he is behind the helmet. Which would be more meaningful if all or most of the other spartans are dead
I agree! There's just so much you could dig into with her character!
Thing is Miranda never got to play any role whatsoever in the story beyond being at the initiative of following Regret (which is something in itself, but not quite enough to justify her taking so much screentime then). Bungie had a promising character with the social intricacies she is as the center of, but she was kinda wasted, ending up as forgettable.
She died before making any impact or before even displaying entertaining character (unlike Mercy for example, who had basically no initiative in the story but was at least displaying emotional and cultural drive needed to understand the harsh nature of Covenant social hierarchy structures), which is honestly a bit meh.
@robertstockton4497 there is absolutely no reason that Miranda would have met Spartans as a child. They were top secret military experiments, not children from another school.
Why everyone thinking of an adaptation of the Halo Lore into a movie/tv series have to change the story, characters, events happening in the original story? Why not keep the same story that already worked and built this universe and just focus on giving us the reality of how spartans operate that we cannot live in-game for playability issues? You know, like, how spartans are super fast, and if the game was like that it would need to be massive and we couldn't shoot anything at that speed?